The Daily Zeitgeist - Kanye’s Lost (In Thought), Petty Arabia 8.10.18

Episode Date: August 10, 2018

In episode 209, Jack and Miles are joined by Ethnically Ambiguous podcast host Shereen Younes to discuss Idris Elba possibly being the next James Bond, Kanye's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel, the dispute between Saudi Arabia and Canada, who Trump's coalition really is, Laura Ingraham's reckless comments on America, Kylie Jenner's birthday party, Macauley Culkin's weird comments about his girlfriend, bloidwatch, and more!  FOOTNOTES:1. Idris Elba the next 007? Movie boss says ‘door open for first black James Bond’2. K. Michelle Reminisces on Best Parts of Dating Idris Elba: 'Amazing Head'3. WATCH: Kanye West on Donald Trump4. The Administration’s Infuriating Both Sides–ing of the Canada–Saudi Arabia Dispute5. Iran and Saudi Arabia: Friends and foes in the region6. How Broad, and How Happy, Is the Trump Coalition?7. Laura Ingraham: "The America we know and love doesn't exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don't like ... this is related to both illegal and legal immigration"8. Inside Kylie Jenner’s Star-Studded 21st Birthday Bash With Kris and Caitlyn Jenner9. JRE #1153 - MACAULAY CULKIN10. WATCH: KAMAU - Hey Ya Cover / Interpretation - Live Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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hello the internet and welcome to season 43 episode Episode 5 of The Daily Zeitgeist! For Friday, August 10th, 2018. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. You know, most people think it's Ian, but Steve Sanders from 90210 is actually played by O'Brien Ziering. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! And yes, Miles will be present on the first day of school and graduation. I'm sorry, Miss Jackson.

Brian, for real. And I just flipped that on my own. Actually, that's part Chapman Rice on that one and then part me just finishing it out. So, you know, Chapman, hope you're doing well. Miss the AKAs. And shout out to Andre for that one. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer and filmmaker whose work you might know from such places as the MoMA. She's also the co-host of the hilarious and super enlightening podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous.

We are thrilled to be joined by Shireen Younis. What? Hi. Shoo, sh joined by Shireen Younes. Hi. Shoo shoo. Here comes the Shireen train. Hi. It's lovely to have you, Shireen. We're going to get to know you a little bit better, but first we're going to tell our

listeners what they're in store for. We're going to talk about the fact that Idris Elba might be the next James Bond, how people are reacting to that news. We're going to check in with Kanye's check-in with Jimmy Kimmel on Kimmel Last Night. We're going to talk a little bit about the Middle East and the conflict between Saudi Arabia and Canada and just kind of lay out all the different sides out there. We're going to talk about who actually are Trump voters, guys. Who the fuck are these people? And how that ties into the upcoming midterms.

We are going to talk about Laura Ingraham, unfortunately. We're going to talk about Kylie Jenner's 21st. We're going to check in with Macaulay Culkin because he generated the most upsetting work of toxic masculinity. Unfortunately, we're gonna talk about Kylie Jenner's 21st. We're gonna check in with Macaulay Culkin because he generated the most upsetting work of toxic masculinity of the day, I guess. And we're gonna do a Bloid Watch. But first, Shireen, we like to ask our guests,

what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, my last search is American movie real. Is American movie real? Now, that is the documentary American movie, which is amazing. It's amazing. And I thought it was a satire. I did not realize it was a real documentary with that real man this whole time

until someone told me, and my mind was blown. And if you guys haven't watched American movie, go watch American movie. And I'm sorry that I already ruined it for you and told you that it's real because I think it's fun watching it thinking that this guy is in on it. But now I have to rewatch it again. Yeah. It's absurd.

It's real, right? It's real. It is real. Wait, remind me. Is the one about the dude making a movie? In like rural Wisconsin. And he just and he has a vision for this film. It's a horror film, but he is just- He's absurd.

Absurd. One of the great characters in the history of film- But that's the thing. I thought he was a character. Or non-fictional. I thought he was a character, but really he's just a real character. I know. He is a real character, as old people say.

But yeah, that was my latest Google search history. Did you just see that movie? No, I've seen it ages ago, but I brought it up with a friend, and they mentioned that it's a real documentary, and I was like, no, it's not. You're like, that amazing mockumentary American movie? I said mockumentary, and I was like, oh, I'm a dumbass. And I, yeah, it blew my mind. It is one of the funniest movies. I went into a hole all day.

Another amazing documentary like that is Muleskin or Blues. That is about this Florida trailer park that has the same thing. Like they kind of look at the different members in the trailer park. One guy is like a filmmaker. But then there's like a guy who's a musician who's really good. And everyone's backstory is out there. Out there. Yeah. And it's one of those things where when you watch it it puts you in that state you're like is this the real life yeah is this just fantasy caught in a land thank you no escape from reality

okay we're checked in oh okay we'll stop we'll stop i liked where you were going though it sounded like you had that next part locked and loaded. I have it all. I have it all locked and loaded. Karaoke, that song for days. What is something that's overrated? Marriage. Aw.

How are your parents doing? Weddings. I think weddings in particular are very overrated. Oh, hell yeah. Weddings are, I mean, I have a lot of friends that have had weddings that are married now. I just think it's a giant waste of money, especially in America and in Western society. Like everyone lives together anyway. Like why do we have to go get married? Like there's no difference other than getting tax incentives or whatever.

So just go to a courthouse and get married if that's the case. But why throw a big, stupid, expensive party and just blow all your money on something? Let's go travel. Go do something more like that. We'll have more memories and just like yeah cake like fuck cake wow whoa hold on i was on board i know but you know i feel you know like if look if you are wealthy enough that you have that kind of disposable income to throw a wedding sure that's your prerogative to do so but i have friends who've had more creative weddings that have been more about like, let's just have a good time.

And I've had people have more traditional ones. And I think about my own future. I don't know. The price tag is always a thing that I'm like. Yeah. For one night, like one whole thing. Like for what? I think it's so I think what I think is overrated is just the build up to it as well.

Like making it your whole priority in life to get married and have a family. Who are you doing an impression of? You were thinking of someone. It's clearly me. No, no. I got married. That's not what I mean. It's weird too as Jack is like, you want to see my wedding photos?

Just right before it started recording and now you say this. Wow. Okay. No, I think it's admirable that people have that priority. I just think it's a little silly to build it up for a wedding or like those symbols of what marriage is portrayed as as far as commercialism goes. Whether it's a ring, whether it's a wedding dress or a party or whatever. Being with someone should be just less superficial than that. But I think that's how they want to rock. That's your prerogative to throw your money away.

Because I know people who really are... Yeah, of course, of course, of course. Not that you're trying to say, you fucking disagree, fuck you. But I think you see people who overemphasize the wedding. It could literally be like it's an existential thing where if this does not happen, I will cease to be...

Like bridezillas or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, I love a wedding though. Right. Yeah, like bridezillas or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, also, I also, but hey, I love a wedding, though. Right. It's like one of those weird things. I'm like, I love a wedding if I'm not paying for it. Right. Of course.

It's like a free party, free food. Yeah, yeah. I think it's good for people also who, you know, don't get to cut loose and like, you know. Cut loose, eh? Cut loose, eh? Is that what you say, Principal Jack? What do you mean? Well, like, just, I don't know.

I've definitely been to a lot of weddings where there are like middle-aged men who are just getting after it and just having like the most fun and you just know that that's not the sort of thing they get to do. Are you talking about chasing a woman or just dancing?

Just dancing. Cutting a rug, as we say. Cutting a rug, getting drunk, you know. Right. There's some catharsis for some people. Yeah yeah and i feel like some people don't have you know parties on a regular basis or like lots of fun things to do shireen sounds like we need to invite jack to a party you know they're lonely and they just record this podcast. And it's rinse repeat. And it's like Groundhog's Day where I'm just cutting a rug,

like a literal rug. All right, this got dark. No, but you know, how would you do a wedding your way? I just don't think I would get married. Okay, in general, just the idea of marriage doesn't appeal to you. No, I think it's a little antiquated.

It's a transaction basically, like from rural times. times yeah i think it's a little antiquated a lot of it's based in religion which i don't really i'm not a fan of so it's like why i mean i think it's very great i'm all for gay marriage i'm glad there's like gay rights now where they're probably they're finally equal but at the same time just the idea of marriage being this lofty goal always is so strange to me. Well, right. But we support gay marriage more because of the things it affords you or the status you get from certain protections by being married, right? Because they incentivize it. What's the best wedding you ever been to?

Oh, wow. Okay, never mind. Maybe you haven't been to any good weddings. Have you been to a wedding? I've been to weddings. I had fun at my friend's wedding from college i well i was also taking photos at that wedding though so i was like kind of working but um i mean i just i like dancing with my friends it's like fun to just like let loose and cut the rug and whatever but cut a rug americans um but i don't know I think weddings are fun but also they kind of like make me like

nauseous oh okay so this sounds like a lot going on with these weddings I feel like I'm sounding so pessimistic but there's just like I'm all for love and being with someone

but there's also like an underlying thing like nothing lasts. Wow. Hell yeah. Everything is temporary. The transience of life. What's something that's underrated besides the transience of life? Puzzles.

Oh, shit. Wow. Jigsaw? Like Sudoku puzzles? Right. Crossword puzzles? Or finding a lifelong mate? Solving that riddle, if you will.

I love puzzles. I love Sudoku. I love crosswords. I love video games because they're basically just like real puzzles that you have to solve with your strategic mind. And then fucking escape rooms are just live action puzzles. So you have to just navigate your way through. It's so invigorating.

I need to do an escape room. You've never done an escape room? I have friends. Let's go right now. I have a group of friends who I used to get so high with in high school, like, where I'm like, yo, these people are, like, not going to do shit. They're so hooked on escape rooms. I'm not shading y'all if you're listening. But, you know, I respect y'all.

But, like, it was so funny. One day they're like, we've just been doing a lot of escape rooms. And I was like, for real? And they're like, yo, they're really dope. And I'm like, we used to sit down all day and just play video games. And they're so enthusiastic. They've been to every single one in LA.

They've exhausted every escape room possibility. And I'm like, damn, I need to get more and more people of that friend who's from high school. Like, yo, escape rooms are the way. Well, it's because it's like a boss temple that you have to navigate through in a video game. But you're there in person in this makeshift temple or whatever it is.

And I love it. It's so fun. And I think just puzzles in general are underrated and kind of nerdy when it comes to Sudoku or crossword or even jigsaw puzzles. Invigorate your mind, y'all. Just be with yourself and learn something. Every time I do a crossword,

I learn five new things I didn't know before. Right, yeah. It's great. And yeah, with jigsaws, I know a lot of people are shouting out jigsaw puzzles on here. It's when you get to the last 300 pieces, you're like, they all look the fucking same.

You get real worried. But there is an escape room down the street. Let's just go right after this. Yeah, we'll go. I've been to two escape rooms, I think, and one was really good, and the clues actually led one to the next. And then I've been to one where it was just completely arbitrary. Some guy just turned an office into an escape room.

It's kind of a hit or miss. Yeah, it's a hit or miss. It depends on the place. The first escape room I ever did was in Dubai. Oh, look at you. It's an international phenomenon. Damn. Everyone's doing it. It's kind of a hit or miss. Yeah, it's a hit or miss. It depends on the place. The first escape room I ever did was in Dubai. Oh, look at you. It's an international phenomenon. Damn. You know, like everyone's doing it.

It's great. That's a flex. The first time I was in Dubai. It was the most expensive. I'm not sure if you've heard of it. No, that's okay. It was at an indoor ski lodge. It sounded a little pretentious.

No, no, I'm fucking with you. I was visiting a cousin. I was visiting a cousin. But yeah, I think escape rooms are fun fun and it's a great place for friendship to either grow or explode in your face because you probably get into arguments with your friends about who's right but either way it's a test. You get bummed out how dumb

your friend is. You're like oh my god this dude is not getting it. He's literally trying to put a circle into a square. Do you ever play that mobile game The Room? No. That's a great, like, sort of, it's not like it's an escape room, but it's one of those things where everything sort of builds on the next thing. Really?

You have to kind of use your logic, yeah. I'll look it up. The Room. Like the movie. Yeah, but different. I think there's like Same premise. Same premise. It's about a mother and son? Is that what that book's about? Yes. Yes. Alright. No, I was thinking about The Room, what's his name? Oh no, that's Room. No, I was thinking about The Room.

What's his name? Oh, no, that's Room. What's that? I think that's Room is the one we're talking about. And then The Room, yes. The Room is the best film of all time. Tell me what's so. That's right. Finally, what is a myth?

Shereen, what is something people think is true that you know to be false? Well, my first thought when I saw this was people think you need to shake Polaroid pictures and that is a myth. The OutKast song has led people to believe a lie for years and years and I would even say decades and it is so unfortunate because shaking the

Polaroid makes the colors run. Does it really? It does. It ruins the color. What you're supposed to do is let it develop on its own. Don't touch it. Don't even move it. Wow. Yeah, set it down.

Set it and forget it. I feel like such a fool. But he's told all Beyonces and Lucy Lues and baby girls, I mean, you know what to do. Just shake it. Shake, shake it. It's actually a very sad song. Yeah.

I mean, it's a sad but catchy song, but also misleading people for, and they're Polaroids He did not invent that, by the way. I know you're very young, but people have been shaking Polaroid pictures for years. Yeah, it's just like a weird habit. I think because the logic, right, is that all the

developing chemicals are in the bottom of the actual Polaroid, so I guess they felt like shaking it would actually make it quicker. Right. I mean, I'm not saying they invented it. I'm just saying they proliferated the idea, and they sunk it to the masses. Every time I take a Polaroid picture, I start shaking it.

I'm like, like the song? Hey, ya. Right, guys? Anyone? No? Hey, ya. Clap, clap, clap. Just always looking for a wedding to break out.

You know, a dance floor. Like, don't want to be your daddy. Just want you in my caddy. That is such perfect myth. Right, because it's one of those things that it feels right. You're like, yeah, just shake. No, I mean, I lived in my darkroom in high school. I was very much into photography.

And that was one of the first things we learned, like, don't listen to the song. And we were like, that was like a popular song back in the day like when I was first day of photography class we're not even gonna talk about apertures

or anything like that right now we're gonna analyze why the song is false shutter speed ISOs do not listen to Hey Yacht by Outlast you just changed my life

alright guys you go to your house all your Polaroids are all fucked up because you just shook the shit out of them. So many memories. So many ruins.

Idris Elba, guys. What a man. What a man. So the next Bond movie is coming out in November 2019. It's still going to be Daniel Craig. He agreed to sign on for one more but they already have the director apparently after he was like I'll never do one if I cut my wrist

or something yeah basically he like got real emo and was just like I would rather die than do another Bond movie and then they were like how about 25 million dollars and he was like uh yeah shaken not stirred that's such a good Daniel Craig impression yes shaken not stirred right um that's such a good daniel

craig impression we're doing yes shaken not stirred thank you i will sign here um give me the money so they've already tapped uh antoine foucault to direct and he and barbara brockley who is like the keeper of the bond franchise uh have already said they're thinking non-white uh which most people think will translate to Idris Elba. Okay, now they're trying to be progressive, but also like barf. Yeah, but also like, we want a colored James Bond.

Yeah. Non-white. Wait, I remember when they were first dabbling with the idea of there being a not white James Bond, that it was like Cuba Gooding Jr. Really? When the conversation, the first time was even, they even thought about it years ago. I remember that was like Cuba Gooden Jr. When the conversation, the first time was even, they even thought about it years

ago. I remember that was the first time. Must have been a pre-Snow Dogs conversation. It was after. I break most of my... I don't know, it was right after radio. I break timelines into pre and post Snow Dogs. I use radio as that delineation point.

But it would have just been far more constructive just to cast someone of color rather than announce that you wanted to do that. Right, exactly. They're like, okay, guys, we're going to do something different. Are you ready? Who do you think it should be?

Ready to praise us for being so woke? Hey, woke washed. I've heard it speculated that the Oscars put out that idea of best popular movie or best achievement in popular film as sort of like a weather balloon to just see how people reacted online. And, you know, this could be another example of that, of just being like, hey, we're thinking about this and like seeing how people react. And I think the reaction has generally just been like, yeah, of course. Maybe because for a white racist,

because James Bond is English, they don't feel any ownership over it. They're like, yeah, whatever. If he was an American, it would be different. Keep America white. Right. Yeah. Keep Mission Impossible white.

You're replacing Tom Cruise with who? But you know what's funny? This week, though, they were talking about, do you know it's funny this week though they were talking about a tick do you know you know kay michelle she's like the r&b singer who's on love and hip-hop atlanta uh-huh she used to date idris elba and this story came out this week where they dated like in 2014 and i just have to tell this anecdote so first she talked about how they met she's like i'm walking off stage and i hear this accent say kay michelle you're beautiful i told him to his face your jeans too tight and your accent funny.

She goes, I didn't have a filter. I'm straight out of Memphis. And then they're like, oh, what was the relationship like? Like, was the sex good? They said, she sits up and exclaims, amazing head. It was good. I remember that head. Oh, my God.

K. Michelle, let him know. He got the skills. What an amazing couple. K. Michelle, let him know. Idris Elba, he got the skills to pay the bills. What an amazing couple. Hey, Michelle, you're beautiful. That's my Idris Elba. So we're pro this, though, right? For sure. Yeah, I mean, I love Idris.

He's the top man. Also, get me excited about the director, too. Right. I want to know who's... Because Casino Royale was such a... I thought that was really taking James Bond somewhere. I'm like, oh, look, he's a broken man. It's hard watching all those

women die constantly and acting like you can just drown your sorrows in a martini. You were starting to see the sort of the humanity of it. Yeah, exactly. Once they wrote people back in, they sort of lost that thread, but I would love to see that. Casino Royale was definitely the peak of Daniel

Craig Bond. Yeah, well that was the first one wasn't it? Was it? Yeah. I think that was the reboot with him and then it was just sort of like okay I'll be on board for the next ones and you're just sort of like. Yeah. But Casino Royale, you're right. It was like this darker version of this character that wasn't just like suave Pierce Brosnan

whatever. Right. It was the same thing like when Chris Nolan started doing the Batman movies where you're like oh shit Batman's kind of fucked up. Yeah. And he actually might, Fuqua might actually just be producing. I know he was involved in this conversation. I immediately assumed that he was the director, because that's what he's mostly known as.

But he also is apparently a producer. So they could go in a more interesting direction. Although he directed Training Day. And Training Day is a pretty good movie. He also directed Shooter, The Magnificent Seven. So it could go either way. And we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back after that.

In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.

I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure

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Kanye. Yep. Kanye showed up. Showed up. He ghosted some other shows. So they've had a feud in the past. Oh, yeah. Remember? It was like a low-key feud. Well, on Twitter they've had a feud in the past? Oh, yeah.

Remember? It was like a low-key feud, though. Well, on Twitter, remember? They were going back and forth. That's true. That's when Virgil Abloh was helping him make memes to clap back at him, where it was like SpongeBob SquarePants, and he's like, Jimmy Kimmel face-looking motherfucker. It was just weird.

Right. It was right around the Yeezus album, I remember, when they were fucking going at at it and then they squashed it or whatever so yeah when he showed up yesterday i was like oh it was like a 22 minute interview in total and i really love jimmy kimball as an interviewer actually like he's never run me the wrong way he's always really nice and like he still is funny without being obnoxious right um and i really like the interview. I think I mean, Kanye is just a character, but his I don't know. I like how Jimmy spun it all because he always was like underlying like Donald Trump sucks. Yeah. And Kanye didn't really have anything. No. Like he didn't have a rebuttal to any of that. Aside from like he would just say his point, like I had to build up a lot of confidence to put that MAGA hat on.

It wasn't because of that. It was just it was more of a symbolic moment for me to like take control. Yeah. Or just be like, I'm going to do this thing I want. I don't care what the repercussions are. I want to wear the hat or whatever. And sure. But there was one moment that was so good where you could tell Kanye doesn't

really, he's not in the ring with intellectual heavyweights too often trying to defend his position. Right. Because Jimmy Kimmel questions him probably yeah jimmy kimmel just melted him with one question basically uh so i think we'll play a clip of kanye kind of talking about his love for trump how fucking love can just can solve everything and then kimmy jimmy kimmy gets him real good when i see people just even like go at the president, it's like, why not try love for one person to stand up against all odds and just hug somebody the way that Alice Johnson hugged her family when she got out of jail. that one by one by one, we can defuse this nuclear bomb of hate that we're in as a society by thinking of everyone as our family and how we treat our kids, how we treat our aunties.

I think that's a beautiful thought, but just in literal terms, there are families being torn apart at the border of this country. There are literally families being torn apart as a result of what this president is doing and i think that you know we cannot forget that whether we like his personality or or not the his actions are really what what matter i mean you so famously and so powerfully said george bush doesn't care about black, it makes me wonder what makes you think that Donald Trump does, or any people at all. Why don't we take a break?

We'll come back. And Kanye West. Every time Kanye gets nervous in this interview, he crosses his arms. Yeah. Oh, he's so transparent. You know what I mean? The few times where you can read someone's body language is Kanye because he's signaling like, okay,

let me close off to what you're saying now. And then, okay, what do you, so what you can't see because this is an audio podcast is right after you ask that question, Kanye is like, he takes it in. He leans back like he's about to say something and then just kind of goes. Right. And then Kim will just mercifully just like okay let's take a break because you don't need to take that much of an L on camera and then but the thing that

disappointed me a little bit is when they came back they just kind of went back to other topics yeah and I think you need to you know hold this man's feet to the fire because he he doesn't even really know where he lands uh Connie because he hasn't really thought about any of this shit and also when he said when he brings up Alice Johnson, that was the woman that Kim Kardashian caped for and then got the pardon, right? He was like, well, why can't when she comes out and hugs her family, like

blah, blah, blah. That's love between a family where there is love that exists. People who supported her. Yeah, that is not an adversarial relationship. So what the fuck are you talking about? That's where you're like, oh man, you are you just talk out loud. You're so detached from reality. It's absurd.

Well, you know. But I do like Jimmy Kimmel and how he handled it, though. He's a smart man. Yeah, yeah. He didn't, I mean, he didn't get real messy about it, but he just brought up a few things like, okay, I'm gonna leave that there. You really couldn't answer that. So just let that marry you.

I mean, his points, his views are very obviously shown. You know what I mean? Like, he's not going to just, like, jack him off as he's, like, interviewing him. I like that about Jimmy Kimmel. He's not like Jimmy Fallon, just, like, are very obviously shown. You know what I mean? He's not going to just jack him off as he's interviewing him. I like that about Jimmy Kimmel. He's not like Jimmy Fallon, just laughing at every joke. Who jacks everyone off. Right. Yeah, most people who don't live out here don't know that.

But he's constantly jacking his guests off. Especially Trump. It's a little known fact. You don't see. That's actually a green screen. That's your name. Right. That is true.

Why can't we call it? I was constantly called Jack off when I was a kid. Really? Yeah. I had a sweat roll down his face. Are you crying? He's not crying, okay? No, these are tears of laughter. Called courage water. Courage water coming out my face.

Courage sweating. It means my courage is so much it's coming out my pores and my eyes. I thought it was really smart that he pointed out. He was like, yes, you're viewing that as a completely personality-based thing. Right. And that is true of narcissists. That's true of Trump. That's true of Kanye.

It seems that everything is just personality-based. And I think it's also true of our media that we tend to just, you know, when we're viewing elections or these stories, we're just like, make it into world wrestling. Even with like the Me Too stuff. There are people who like, some people, if you're a fan, like there's that first layer of like, oh, but that person's cool. Right. Am I willing to like remove that from the like observing this situation? So, yeah. Yeah.

I think it's interesting that you started out talking about not knowing the difference between a character and a non-fictional thing and a character and a fictional thing because I think that that kind of breaks down for us a lot of the time, that a lot of these celebrities are just kind of fictional characters. Right, right. You know Kanye is not a fictional character though, right? You called him a character. You know he's just a character.

Wait, he's a real person? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm so sorry. Yes, that is sadly a real person. I did like when Kimmel, when he brought him out, he described him as a very talented musician, whatever, whatever,

and the last thing was shoe salesman when he brought him out. Shoe salesman. I'll sit up with him one more time. Yeah, you sell shoes. Alright guys, let's talk about what we're calling Petty Arabia. Let's just

lay the groundwork here because I feel like I get the different sides of the conflict when I listen to your podcast Ethnically Ambiguous, with super producer Ana Hosnier. Yes. But I feel like it leaves my mind

the second I start listening to it. That's helpful. No, no, just not leaves my mind, but it's like I don't get it. Right. It gets too complex for me, so I just want to relay it, lay out what the sides are.

So on one side, it's Sunni countries like Saudi Arabia Kuwait it's basically like most of the Middle Eastern countries I think people are kind of calling it the Saudi Arabia coalition Saudi Arabia led coalition these days and America is you know backing that coalition and the UK and Australia and Turkey and South Korea and Malaysia and Indonesia and Brazil and Finland. Right. And Bosnia and Pakistan. And Israel is kind of secretly on board too.

It all depends, yeah. Right. Well, wherever the U.S. is, Israel is too. Right. And then on the other side, Iran is sort of the only Shiite majority country in the region. And, you know, on their side, you have Syria's current regime, which is al-Assad and Russia. And that's is that mainly it?

I mean, there's in terms of like the. Who is fighting in Yemen or just in terms of who is aligned with Saudi Arabia? Who is aligned with Saudi Arabia and against Saudi Arabia? Yeah. I mean, against is Russia, Iran, Syria. Right. And yeah, that's it. So there's active fighting right now in Yemen and Syria and Libya.

And Yemen, in Yemen, a school bus was just bombed by this sort of Saudi-led coalition. And there's just horrifying imagery. And there's also been this sort of war of words going on between Saudi Arabia and Canada. Yeah. Well, right. I think the crux of this is sort of like how the U.S. just is trying to play both sides in this specific instance too, like where Canada rightfully is saying, hey, you're arrested two female activists in Saudi Arabia

who are getting, what, like 10 years and like a thousand lashings or something was their sentence. And one of them is like the sister of an imprisoned blogger whose wife is a Canadian citizen. So they're just felt on behalf of their citizens are like hey this is fucked up yeah right and there's another prisoner that was a ubc a university of british columbia alumni that like as a statement like she's an activist she drove before driving was legal for women in saudi arabia she drove as an act of resistance in the border in saudi arabia and she was arrested in 2014 um and she's

still in jail because she was arrested again for protesting um the professors of the university are contacting the government and whatever they're they're they're speaking out over the long-standing history of human rights abuse um in saudi arabia particularly against women and like the prisoners that are still there and if you guys want to know more, honestly, I would recommend the most recent episode of Ethnically Ambiguous. Anna and I break down Saudi Arabia for the majority of the episode, and that comes out on Monday. So check it out.

Yeah. With this whole situation, too, there was a very telling moment where one of the spokeswoman for the State Department, Heather Nauert, I think is her name, they asked her, like, what's the U.S.'s position on this? And it was so evasive of like, yeah, well, you know, we can't help them both out. They're going to have to figure this out on their own or whatever. When it's so clearly like, just say that you turn a blind eye to a lot of Saudi Arabia's bad behavior because we were aligned with them for many geopolitical resource reasons or whatever.

Yeah, for money. Yeah. And I think what our own people just can't admit that. So it comes out in this weird half-assed thing of like, well, we don't want to pick something. Right, right. Just say, yo, look, we're in bed with them and we can't really make it hot for ourselves because we're in bed with them. So yeah, this whole thing of like now it's become this really big publicity war where like, I think on Saudi state TV, like they did a special on all

the human rights violations of Canada. Right. And then, uh, called back with like 15,000 students, uh, to be like, yo, you got to leave the country and we're going to put you in some other schools because we don't fuck with Canada anymore. And yeah, I think. And then there was that weird tweet that was like the foreign ministry. That was like a Canadian airplane. It was infographic that showed an airplane like in route to smash into the Toronto Space Needle. Right. Oh, Jesus.

Yeah. And like it was all black and white. But the plane was in color. And then it was like it was like the old Arab proverb is like those who put stick their nose in things they're like they're not a part of will see things they do not like and everyone's like yo what yeah what are you trying to say deleted it right because then because a lot of people were like uh hey you know like 15 of the 19 9 11 hijackers were saudis like what are y'all trying to say? Oh, no, no, no, no. That was meant to be the ambassador returning to Canada. And that's what that was about, which maybe it was.

But like, again, it wasn't. Yeah, right. It was a very weird thing. And like, and then, you know, it's just it's an odd moment, too, because Mohammed bin Salman is sort of like, oh, they're making it hot, blah, blah, blah. And it's like you are exacerbating this whole issue by then getting into this weird rhetorical feud with canada i mean trump has praised salman for being this progressive like bringing a new age saudi arabia when really he's like he's even worse like like yeah sure he lifted the ban on women driving but the women that drove and are in prison for driving

are still in prison like they're not getting released like they're gonna be in jail for a long time because they were driving. So he's not progressive. He's just making it all worse. And he's just a fake ass bitch. Wow. Let them know. Give them that smoke.

And it's one of those things, too, where the U.S. is so quick to be like, you know, Iran needs to change their foreign policy. Yeah. And, you know, they're doing all this. This is that, that, that, that and that. And at that same press conference where someone pressed him about like what's going on with saudi arabia and canada they're like well what about saudi arabia like you're so quick to call iran i said what about saudi arabia and the spokesperson she literally started like what what are you trying to say

like she was about to answer and realize she didn't have quite the good bullshit like i'm sorry i think we have a bad connection yeah like. No, I'm talking to you right now. How is this different than Saudi Arabia? What's going on in Yemen? They're like, and especially now, like a bunch of kids got killed. And now what? They're just going to be like, well, you know, send Nikki Haley out to hold up scraps of metal that have like Iran stamped on it and be like, guys, this is really what we need

to be looking at. So I don't know. It's an ongoing feud where the representatives of our own government can't really be fully honest with themselves about why they can't, why they play both sides. Yeah. Yeah, and I just looked it up, and there's a Saudi-led military coalition that announced it's going to investigate the airstrike that took place in Yemen that killed 30 children. I feel like they were just doing that for show because obviously they were behind it. Yeah. It was a Saudi-led coalition.

Yeah. It's just- Hey, we got to figure out what happened there. Yemen is going through some shit and it's just really unfortunate. And Saudi Arabia has been behind most of the deaths and it's really upsetting. Yeah. Well, guys, listen to Ethnically Ambiguous this Monday and every week.

It's such a great show. It helps make sense of this part of the world for people like me who are dummies. And make sense of Anna's dad, too. Yeah, and make sense of... Do you have a big part in this show, I heard? Your dad? He pulled up in this episode?

Oh, yeah. We called Anna's mom. We do. Hi, it's Anna. Hi. I am always in the room. Thank you for pointing that out. So you're not an apparition, I'm saying.

No. Yeah. You're real. You're not a character. My parents are hosts of the podcast. They're always there. Okay. They're always alive.

Fantastic. And they will outlive us all. Yeah. But both of your parents have been featured on recent episodes. Yes. okay they're always alive fantastic and they will all love us all yeah but they have both of your parents have been featured on recent episodes yes

and have such amazing super interesting stories and it's despite all the heavy shit we're talking about right now it is one of the funniest podcasts

you'll hear anywhere you think so oh it's so fun Jack yeah I'm going to cry yeah I'm a fan what you think it's dull

no I just like when I hear, I just like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our podcast. Tell me more. It's a serious podcast. It's not serious. Have you guys just been laughing at everything? Comedy bird?

Oh, you hear this, Jack? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This can't be real. I mean, the parts where you go over the news stories. Hilarious. Yeah, yeah. We really were a serious podcast. We're like, what?

Have you seen our image? We wear turtlenecks. Why are you laughing? Inspired by Steve Jobs. Yeah. But no, yeah, we called our parents in the recent episodes that happened. Like, there was one episode we called her dad. I called my dad in the next episode.

We called her mom. We're probably going to call my mom next episode. And I think those are my favorite because you get your info straight from the source. You know what I mean? I love talking to our parents because they're so – they're not primed to be on a podcast. They just say whatever is on their mind. You're just talking to your parents.

Yeah. It's just amazing. They happen to be recording. Yeah, exactly. It's great. It really is. And my dad, when he answers the phone, I was so glad he did this when we called him because I didn't tell him to.

But he holds answers and he says, shoo-shoo! I know. Which is why Whispers is my nickname for my family. And I just love that. Now it's forever. I want to make it a little audio byte that I can just play whenever I want.

Ringtone. Yeah. Be a drop. Just an adorable drop. Shoo-shoo-shoo! Yeah. All right, guys. The New York Times has a report out today that I think is based on a Pew.

It's not really a poll. It's like a panel slash study that they did where they actually lined up responders to a poll with who they actually voted for. actually voted for. So they've been able to get a really detailed picture of who Trump voters are, how they felt during the election, and how they feel today. And one of the things that they focus on in this article is that, you know, it's not, I think when we picture a Trump voter, your mind just goes to white male without a college degree tends to be who gets interviewed at his rallies and who, you know, is heavily featured. And at least my mind when I think about your typical Trump voter. But that group makes up about 33 percent of his voters. So still like an outsized part of the voter population.

But for the past four Republican nominees, it's all been between 30 and 35%. So it's not like he had... He suddenly activated a new vein of voters. He did get more of them than past people, but they are becoming a smaller part of the voting block, basically. Oh, as more people go to, like people go to college.

Yeah. And as the world becomes more diverse and more educated. And, you know, another thing that kind of jumps out at you is just how strongly things are breaking in the direction of urban versus rural. That people, this is something that got covered a lot in 2016. But, you know, prior to 2016, I think a lot of people viewed it as like, there's red states, there's blue states, and then there are the battleground states. And, you know, when you actually look at how people vote, it's really just urban versus rural. Like the Republican Party is a rural party, and the Democratic Party is, you know, urban. And now a lot of the focus is shifting to the suburbs, the sort of borderlands between the two. And, you know, even drawing a distinction between exurbs, which are like the suburbs that are closer to the cities, and then the more rural suburbs where Trump is still more popular. Well, that's why you see with a lot of these special elections

that were happening in these solidly, or at one point were solidly red districts that Trump won, I think that's where you're seeing the shift because a lot of these suburban areas are kind of coming around to what it actually meant to vote for Trump. You know what I mean? Where I think in the lead up to the election, it was easy to try and convince yourself that he wasn't.

I mean, if you are someone who was in a little bit in denial about the racism, it was easy to be like, well, I don't know if he means it. Intelligent people were clearly like completely turned off by his rhetoric. But I think some people were like, that's just how he talks. It reminds me of someone I know who isn't a violent racist just says old-timey beliefs kind of thing and now that we're seeing all the policies that they're just horrific i think a lot of people are starting to wise up and that's why you're seeing like suddenly these places that were not competitive suddenly are and the places that he's really being able to consistently turn out votes are still in like more rural areas granted there are plenty of suburb like there are urban areas that do fully buy into the Trump thing.

But like in, I think, Ohio, this last one, the 12th district, you see too a lot of the suburban areas are like, hmm, okay, maybe not. And more women too are also, I think who really gave him, delivered the election to him, are starting to shift away.

47% of Trump's voters were women. That is the most isn't that unfortunate insane thing i've ever heard and i mean i knew that i just every time i hear it i'm just like oh right that well i think that's why now they know that they're losing like based on how all these elections have gone in primaries they're like oh shit like we're losing suburban women and now deploy agent ivanka now like they're really relying on her to start stumping in these areas you know because i think she's like a good safety blanket for suburban people too like who had i mean if they if they voted for trump right they will use

her to convince themselves that like well it was just locker room talk boys talk like yeah like and she won't let it get bad, even though she sat on her fucking hands when all the family separation show was happening, and she sat on her hands when every other fucking thing was happening. But somehow she can come in with her nice capped teeth, and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like this. Her widened mouth somehow.

She used to have a really small mouth. Her chin. Her mouth is... Well, you know, look, that's what she wants to do. I mean, everyone gets plastic surgery as well. Face aside, her fucking actions speak louder than her teeth. A couple other interesting details. He still won 44% of voters, making more than $150,000 a year.

I think, you know, people like to focus on the, you know, what they call the working class white voter. But it's actually a lot of country club white voters. And he won nearly 40% of college educated white voters. And that is the part of his base that seems to be sort of souring on him a little bit. They were saying that the people who voted for him, I think there were like 12% that were college educated white women.

And they previously rated him like in the 70s, you know, on a scale of zero to 100. And like now are like in the 30s. Fucking about time. Yeah, right. Jesus Christ. So. Wait, but I'm not going to believe that shit

until fucking 2021, January of 2021 happens and we see someone else up there. I mean, it's still significant for 2020 because, you know, a lot of the battleground states are these heavily rural districts where there's, you know, his part of the votership is overrepresented, essentially, when compared to the breakdown nationwide. But they're also saying that for the midterms, this is why things are looking better and better for Democrats, is because the people, it doesn't break down that way. It's not like you have an advantage one place or another. It's just whoever wins the most votes. It's interesting because the big part of his campaign was immigration and like making America

great again. And I think that's why he's buckling down so hard on this wall or just the illegal immigration that's happening now because he wants to rile up those voters he had in the past being like, remember me? Like, I instilled all this fear in you about all these immigrants. And look, it's happening now. And so I think that's a big part of what he's trying to do, why he's not budging on this immigration thing. Yeah.

Yeah. And it could be to his detriment because if the fucking government shuts down over this wall, like that is not going to be a good thing for people who act like people. There are people who vote for him that also rely on services from the government. So then to shut it down, they'd be like, honestly rather have you know my medicaid or something than you having a fucking tantrum over a wall or now that like immigrant families are like or like even illegal immigrant families and now he's even attacking legal immigrants uh they're like being torn apart his parents-in-law exactly yeah they just got they just got a citizenship. Woo-hoo. But, yeah, it's pretty gross.

And it's all just, like, a tactic that he's trying to do. And I hope it blows up in his face. Well, I think that's why the Democrats are trying to run more on a sort of, like, this is what I will try and do to improve your life. That, like, has worked in these red areas where, like, hey, like, you guys need more broadband out here, like, in these areas. Or, like, let's guarantee you guys need more broadband out here like in these areas or like, well, like let's, let's guarantee you

some healthcare or things like that. Whereas these other, the GOP candidates are just like, hey man, fucking MS-13 dude, you know,

immigrants, ISIS, what else, what else can I scare you with? Well, I'm proud of the Democrats right now because I mean, so Cortez won in New York.

She's like a very like progressive Bernie girl and then the mean so Cortez won in New York she's like a very like progressive Bernie girl and then the first Muslim woman ever won in Michigan in Detroit and she's taking the seat of someone who has been in power as a Republican since 1965 and

he was accused of pedophilia basically no wait I thought she won john connor's seat who's not a he's not a republican but he's not yeah you're talking about rashida yeah she won john connor john connor the pedophile is a democrat yeah why did i assume sorry that's my own bias sorry that's yeah yeah that's me just like uh fantasizing about who the worst people in the world are.

I thought he was sexually harassing people. Where did the pedophilia thing come from? I heard it was sexually harassing children. No, no, no. He was sexually harassing his staff. Like adults? Yeah. Wow. Like young adults, I think.

Younger than him, which is everything. They were legally adults. I think it was it was mostly around like uh like groping and other sex scandals i did i from what i understand i don't think it had anything to do with underage people it was just very i'm not even gonna make my wires are across but uh the point is i'm proud of democrats for at least like trying uh especially like democrat women because i, ultimately the most, I mean, the Hillary versus Trump thing,

like the most qualified woman lost to the least qualified man. And like they both have their negative points, sure. But the people that said she was just as bad or something are the people that I have a huge issue with because it would not be this bad. Yeah. And I think, I mean, they have eyes.

They can tell that now, right? By at this point yeah but there's a lot of you know people don't want to admit mistake admit their mistakes too which is why i'm still a little bit hesitant to really believe all of the polling because i feel like a lot of people there are a lot of people who i feel would say like no man i'm okay with the decision who probably don't want to admit that they're like yeah i fucked up the people that i'm really mad at are the fucking third party voters where it mattered right those are the people that just never talked to me again right yeah all right we're gonna take another quick break we'll be right back

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and was like, yes, finally, somebody is speaking the truth. You get it. Yeah, he said one of the most important truthful monologues in the history of mainstream media. What? I mean, let's just play the actual thing so you can hear for yourself what the fuck they're doing on Fox News right now. Because in some parts of the country, it does seem like the America that we know and love doesn't exist anymore. It does seem like the America that we know and love doesn't exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the American people. And they're changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don't like. From Virginia to California, we see stark examples of how radically, in some ways, the

country has changed. Now much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases legal immigration that, of course, progressives love. Oh, we love it. Keep California's name out your mouth. Also, I like that she used the word foisted. Yeah.

I mean, we certainly didn't vote for people to seek a better life here. Right. What the fuck? So between her and Tucker Carlson, like they are just. He's gone full blown white nationalist. It's not even dog whistling anymore.

It's just fucking scream it from the mountain. White people, we need to be scared. Yeah. We need to fucking fight back. Well, remember when she did the whole like Nazi Hail Hitler thing when she was making that speech? If you scroll down on this Twitter thread, there's a gif of her doing that. It's absurd that

that's the same person. She's always been whitey. Yeah, and I think even more the call to boycott the advertisers on her show are like, people need to realize this is so dangerous and careless of Fox to be like, yeah, we're going to

broadcast this to a ton of people where people are just I mean this is so it's so violently racist and just this whole thing of like forced demographic change just say just come out and just say you're fucking Nazi nasty shit right so you can be fucking canceled forever stop fucking around and then coming out the next day and being like oh I disavow racists who embrace my racist comments because I'm not racist even though everything I say is racist. What does she call it when

she's against both illegal immigration and legal immigration? That's just, okay, you don't like foreign people. Yeah, exactly. Well, she's been like, well, you know, some of the Christians who are avoiding persecution, they're running for their lives. I believe them. She said that. She's like, well, you know, some of the Christians who are avoiding persecution, they're running for their lives. I believe them.

She said that. She's like, and we should probably let some of them in. And it's like, my man, this is not one oak nightclub. We're like, yo, what's the ratios? All right, we're going to list some of you in. For the Christian, like, shut the fuck up, man. This is all about this idea that the measure for American-ness is whiteness. White Christians.

Yeah. That is the measurement to determine how American something is. When America is something much more, it's so much deeper than that. And, you know, get all fucking, you know, it's a concept, really. And that's why there are people from so many places, my family included, y'all families included, literally everybody's fucking family included. At one point, they were like, you know what? I don't rock with this place. This place seems like a better option for me.

I think I'm going to go there because it seems like a like-minded group of people who were like, yeah, be free here. And immigrants are probably more patriotic than a lot of like oh my god yes nationalists or whatever the word is it's it's they're so my my dad in particular he's so proud to be an american like sometimes i'll talk shit about this country and he'll be like i came here and they've i've only been ever stopped for a traffic ticket like in my country i would have been stopped i would have been thrown in jail and i would have had to had to bribe with the cop or whatever but here i'm free right and i'm just like there's a muslim

ban going on like after all the stuff he still looks at it as a great country and that's because he came here for a better life and he found it right and a lot of immigrants work 10 times harder than people that aren't immigrants for half as much for 10 times less yeah exactly and then the next day she came Ingraham said that her topic from last night had nothing to do with race or ethnicity. She was about safety and borders and values. Shut the fuck up. Anyways, we've got a few minutes left to do a quick check in

with the Bloid Watch. So a couple things happening in the tabloids online. The equivalent of tabloids online. Kylie Jenner turned 21, guys. Kylie? Kylie Jenner's 21st birthday. That's the one with the makeup? Yes.

Kendall's the model. Kylie is the lip kit. Kendall's the model. Kylie's the lip care magnate. Lip care provider. Chapstick. Right. She was just on the cover of, I think, Forbes or Fortune as a, quote, self-made billionaire

because she's closing in on a cool bill. Holy shit. And so she had her 21st birthday. It reminded me a lot of my 21st birthday. Oh, really? Very similar. They had a mural of all of the sisters, the members of the Kardashian clan, and also their significant others, except for Tristan, Tristan Thompson. Cheating ass.

Who cheated on Khloe and has not been- I mean, we don't know, man. Don't make it hot for Tris. On closed circuit television. Maybe they kissed a little bit. Right. And has not been forgiven. But my man Ben Simmons showed up there because he is dating Kendall.

And I don't know, man. That's not good. That's not good for the 76ers. It's worse than the Madden curse. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, not everybody on the Madden cover got fucked up. I mean, a lot did, but I feel like every person who gets in a long-term relationship with these people, it changes you.

Like James Harden, who just won the MVP of the NBA, dated Khloe for a summer and came back at the beginning of the season. He was garbage. for a summer and came back at the beginning of the season, he was garbage. Like they broke up and then he like slowly was able to like bring his career back. But I'm just, I'm worried, man.

He needs to be out here, you know, putting his workouts up on Instagram and working on his mother. It's gotta be very sort of like intoxicating, you know, like to be an athlete and not be around this like like this the highest form of celebrity in a way right and suddenly do that and i think that's what the the charm is of it all because it's something so different like if you're just some guy who's

a basketball player or whatever and you're not used to paparazzi being everywhere and like everyone bending over backwards to make you happy or whatever, to do that must be like, wow, like, yo, I like this shit. And then you take your eye off the prize and suddenly you're like in a whole bunch of weird tabloids because of like one thing and you're like, oh, what's happening? Right. Was there a Caitlyn drama too? There was not really Caitlyn drama.

She showed up and they haven't really hung out together in a long time, so it was just. Really? Yeah. Is there like weird beef between them? I think there's beef between her and Kris and Robert Kardashian's children, because she and her memoir talked shit

about like Robert Kardashian. Whose memoir? Caitlyn Jenner's memoir. Oh, okay. Like talked shit about like Robert Kardashian. Whose memoir? Caitlyn Jenner's memoir. Oh okay. Like talked shit about their father who has passed away. Oh shit. And so the Kardashian girls are not super

fond of her whereas Kylie and Kendall I think there's been like some I don't know they just haven't been really fucking with each other in public lately. But, you know, when Kendall, or when Kylie had her daughter storming. Okay, I don't know. This is melting my brain.

Right, I know. Fuck them. I don't like it. I hate that this is news. Anyways, this is not news. This is not news. This is gossip bullshit. Oh, it's chat.

Wait, what did you guys call it? Lloyd watch. Lloyd watch. Hemorrhoid watch. If you could say it with that voice for me to really understand. Yeah. This is not news. This is Lloyd Watch. What did you guys call it? Lloyd Watch. Lloyd Watch. Hemorrhoid Watch. If you could say it with that voice, for me to really understand. This is not news. Anyways.

Macaulay Culkin. Yes. Also, Macaulay Culkin generated the most upsetting thing I heard today. In an appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, great way to start a sentence, Macaulay Culkin said about his girlfriend Brenda song, this one's a good one, so I'm probably going to put some babies in her in a little bit.

I mean, we've definitely been practicing. Said the man who's never had sex. He added, I'm going to have some pretty babies. She's Asian, so I'm going to have tiny little Asian babies. It's going to be adorable. Cool, bro. A bunch of Sean Lennons running around the house. That's what I'm looking for is literally what he says after.

Jesus Christ. Get the fuck out of here. God, that is gross. Just the one like, this one's a good one. You're not going through a six-pack of beer that's been in the sun, and you open one and you're like, oh, this one went off. This one? Oh, a good one.

Still good. Yeah, I'm going to put some babies in her. Like, holy boy. I don't know if maybe, is that how Macaulay Culkin talks, or is that what Joe Rogan does to you? I don't know. When you're in the room with him. That's a good question. Yeah, where he was like, before the pre-interview, he was like, I just respect each other's dreams and support each other.

It's really a very healthy relationship. He's like, come on, dude. You fucking, dude? You gonna put some babies in there? Yeah, maybe. What are you, gay, dude? No? No?

All right, let's start rolling. Anyway, so what's going on with Brenda? Oh, you know, bro. We're practicing fucking. That's how you make babies, I heard. Straight up. I always find that so convincing that someone's having a lot of sex when they refer to sex as practicing.

For making babies. Yeah. Kanye did it too. He did? In one of his old songs, he says, we were just practicing when your ass burst through the packaging. Wow. I think his first child.

Sounds like Ari Melber now. Yeah. The way he said that. Poets. Poets. Oh, but then another thing in actual Boy watch news so mila kunis remember we're talking tell us about the garbage that the paper tabloids are dumping into our eyeballs yeah it's kind of connected to this what we're talking about yeah a few weeks ago so mila kunis was like yo i did some fucking dark shit like i was i did people dirty and everyone's like oh my god what the fuck happened? So now I think we're finding out that what happened was when she was on that 70s show,

she was engaged to this dude, Morgan J. Freeman, who is the creator of Teen Mom or executive producer of Teen Mom. He was 31. And she was? 17. They were engaged when she was 18. That was a very good year. Yes. It was a very good year. Yes. It was a very good year. A very good beer.

And so then she was creeping on Morgan J. Freeman with Macaulay Culkin. And then Macaulay Culkin. And then there was Ashton who then she was kind of like she left Macaulay for him. So in this whole article, they're like, this could lead to a divorce. But all they're saying is because she was creeping on Morgan Freeman with Macaulay Culkin, they're just being like, therefore, she will cheat on Ashton Kutcher and there will be a divorce. But hey, you know, like they always say, you're going to lose them how you get them. Right.

Yeah, like one's a cheater, all's a cheater, that whole thing. That's what I said. And so, yeah, there's that. OK Magazine is saying,ad put a ring on it it's official all they have is a photo of her wearing a wedding ring who's her uh jennifer anniston i'm so sorry the brad pitt and jennifer anniston saga continues where uh if you look at last week's i think uh in touch they said uh jen anniston and justin thoreau her her husband like they're calling off the divorce but then in

this week's thing they're like she's got a ring on it could just be her fucking old wedding ring i don't know right there's no date on it like they they're really careful about dating all the other photos in this story but then this was like in july 8th 2005 right whatever it is but anyway yeah they have not been photographed together yet. But the cover has been, the cover is for the past, ever since Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie broke up, every cover has been about Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston being together. They have not been photographed together once. It's just old pictures or they're being photoshopped together.

Yeah, and then the Globe even says, oh, they're back together again, but they don't really say what the proof is. They don't have photos. They have nothing else except for quotes. But on the Globe, the last thing I want to point out is they say, world exclusive convict Cosby joins prison cult desperate for protection behind bars. Whoa.

Now, as somebody who's watched any kind of jail shows or knows about jail culture in the African-American community, what kind of jail cult do you think this is? Could it be the Nation of Islam? Oh, my God. Is that usually what it is? Well, flip on back to that page, and lo and behold, yes, Coward Cosby sells his soul joining Nation of Islam after a promise he'll be protected in prison, Insider says. Wait, there's puzzles in that one, too? Give me that.

Yeah, there's puzzles in that one, too. Who is the Honorable Elijah Muhammad? So yeah, your typical trash roundup. Prison cult. Prison cult, wow. Britney Spears was saved by young love. She's 36. Her boyfriend is 24.

Of Persian heritage, as they say. Exotic. So exotic. It's like a plant. heritage as they say so. Exotic. So exotic. It's like a plant. Shereen, it's been wonderful having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.

I'm disappointed in my performance, honestly. I could have done better. Oh, stop. Immigrant kid attitude. You did good. You sound like me. It is true. It is very immigrant kid.

Yeah, like, no, man. I could have got 105% on that test. Like, how? That's a credit. Where can people find you? Well, if you want to follow our podcast that I have with Anna, it's Ethnically Ambiguous on Facebook and on the HowStuffWorks network, Ethnically Amb on Twitter, A-M-B,

and then on Instagram, it's EthnicallyAmbig, A-M-B-I-G. And me, I'm Shireen Lenny Yunus, and I'm on Instagram, shirehero, S-H-E-E-R-O-H-E-R-O. And on Twitter, because shirehero is taken, and I'm still trying to get that username, because I would love to have them match one day, I'm on Twitter at

shireeny, shireen, S-H-E-R-E-N-W-H-Y. There you go. And tell us about your short film. Yeah! Oh, yeah. Okay, S-H-E-R-E-N-W-H-Y. There you go. And tell us about your short film. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I did a short film almost two years ago now in 2016, and I sat on it for a long time because I did not like it because I'm my worst critic. We all are, though.

Creative's curse. Yeah, and so I didn't do anything with it for a long time. And then on a whim, I submitted it to this website called No Budge, which is curated by this indie filmmaker, Kentucker Audley, who I really respect. And he wanted to premiere online on his website. And so that happened. And so I made that connection. And then he was curating a exhibition at the MoMA in association with this organization called The Future of Film is Female

and so I was part of a shorts block that premiered at the MoMA in New York part of the exhibition and that was the first time I'd ever screened the film, like ever, and it was really cool. Well congrats! Thanks! It was awesome! You showed your work at MoMA At the MoMA! It was surreal

it was very surreal. But I felt really lucky, and I was with really good company. Yeah. I mean, some people wait a lifetime for a MoMA like this. Jeez. And that's my time, guys. Don't even need to tell you. Thank you, Nick.

I'm out. He's not the best in the business for nothing. And I'm cringing in my own skin. Miles. Yeah. Oh, wait. You got a tweet you like? Oh, yeah. Do you have you like? Oh, yeah.

Do you have a tweet? Oh, yeah. Actually, okay. There were three that I couldn't decide from. I'm trying to decide right now. But the first one, just because we're on this puzzle theme,

Britt Bennett tweeted, 90s TV shows made me think that obstacle course would be a more important part of my adult life. And I agree with that. I agree with that, yeah. Do you have two others that you wanna share?

You can share as many as you want. Am I allowed? I'm allowed? Okay, the next one, I think you might have liked this or retweeted this, Miles, but Jess Dweck, she tweeted this quote that just says, according to his first wife, Ivana, Donald Trump has never,

was never keen on bequeathing his name to anybody. It was Ivana who wanted to call their newborn son, Donald Jr. You can't do that, Trump said in Ivana's memoir, Raising Trump.

What if he's a loser? And there's a picture of Donald Trump Jr. Like, just looking like, What if he's a loser? And then it's just him looking down at his phone.

You haven't failed as a parent if your concern is what if he's a loser? Like, wow, look at how you look at the world. And my final tweet that I like is from Rhea Butcher, and it was from last week, I don't know if it's August 2nd. But she says, my god, someone saying, quote, white people is

not racism, it's removing your perceived neutrality as a white person that feels bad to you. And that's just like. And that's the truth. That's the truth. Yeah. Miles. Yes. Where can people find you?

You can find me at Miles Gray on Twitter and Instagram and tweet that I like. I mean, I'm just a sucker for reductor headlines and tweets. And a tweet that I like. I mean, I'm just a sucker for Reductor's headlines and tweets. This one is five pixie cuts that say, I'm fun and sexy and I still shoplift from Claire's. Oh, that's great. I usually shoplift from Claire's. Magnetic earrings.

Because my mom would live to get my ear pierced. Oh, really? They have them over there? Yeah. That's cute. That's a nice part. 96, 97. Did you quote a Jess Dweck tweet? Yeah. She's going to get a twofer. That's a nice part. 96, 97. Did you quote a Jess Dweck tweet? Yeah.

She's going to get a twofer. That might be a first. Respect your Dweck. She tweeted also, a reality TV villain and a slip and fall lawyer figured out how to record Trump without him knowing, but I'm sure he outfoxed all those former KGB guys. Which is pretty true. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com. We post our footnotes there as well as in the description of this episode. If you just click on the little I or the information wherever you listen on whatever application you use to listen to podcasts, you will find those. That's where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's show, as well as the song that we ride out on. Okay. I was just thinking, because we're talking about Hey Ya. I don't want to play Hey Ya, but I want to play a cover of it by kamau that's really good that's very different like a little rework and interpretation of the song that uh was really interesting now they have a version on on like streaming services

that's like our studio version but i find the live version to be much better so that's gonna be a youtube video uh but this is kamau hey y'all all right. We're going to ride out on that. We'll be back on Monday. Talk to you guys then. Bye. My baby don't mess around Because she loves me so And this I know for sure What does she really wanna

but can't stand to see me walk out the door oh don't try to fight the feeling cause the thought alone is killing me right now yeah thank god

for mom and dad for sticking two together cause we don't know how, how, yeah You think you got it, oh You think you got it, oh, you think you got it Forgot it, just don't get it when there's nothing at all We get together, oh, we get together But sex is always better when there's feelings involved Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh And what they say is

Then what makes, what makes, what makes, what makes, what makes Love itself So why you, why you, why you, why you, why you Oh, we so can't deny you if you know we're not happy Y'all don't give a damn, y'all just wanna get that cable Cable Cable I love Taylor I love Taylor

She lives in my lap But who lives in my heart? She lives in, who's in love? Who survives, who's in love? Who survives? Who's in love? Love! Who's in love?

Who's in love? Who's in love? Love! Love! Hey boy! We rose like a rose from the start Under fluorescent light, love like glass in the water And we thought it was ice, cold like earth when it froze

Unforgiven, forgiven, for it was that from the gold We can stomp the devotions, confuse the four mistletoe We jumped into the ocean without learning how to flow Who's in love? Love Who's in love? Who's in love? Love Who's in love? Love There's so much beauty in Mexican culture

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