The Daily Zeitgeist - Kavanaugh Testimony: WTF Was That? 9.28.18

Episode Date: September 28, 2018

In episode 241, Jack and Miles are joined by comedians Jamie Loftus and Noah Gardenswartz to discuss Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony, Brett Kavanaugh's testimony, the Steak Umm's Twitter account going off, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford testify on sex assault allegations2. Does Brett Kavanaugh like drinking beer? Here, let him tell you.3. Sen. Amy Klobuchar asks Brett Kavanaugh if he has ever blacked out from drinking, and he turns the question back on her.4. The Steak-Umm Twitter Dropped The Most Woke Tweet Rant Of 20185.WATCH: Knox Fortune - Lil Thing Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a.k.a. Return of the Jack. Come on! Return of the Jack. O'Brien! Return of the Jack. Here I am! You know that I'll be Jack. That is courtesy of Christy yamaguchi main and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray in the gravy miles will

sail the seven seas in the gravy he'll put the zeit gang at ease over this bullshit that we just saw in dc in the garage is that all that other shit, but thank you to at Devin J. Size. You know, I'm kind of on a village people wave right now. Yeah, because I like all the occupations that it represents. So, yes, shout out to you, Devin J. Size. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by two amazing comedians. We got Lil Dame in the house. Miss Jamie Loftus, what's up?

Everything's going great, I think. Yes. Yeah. The world is good. Women won. We did it. Just kidding. Someone gave me a new AKA.

Can I use it? Yeah. LeBron Jamie. Nice. It's simple but effective. I like it. I like it. King Jamie

Queen Jamie Queen James And we are also thrilled to be joined by Noah Gardenschwartz What's up man? Just came in with my own AKA What you know about that What you know about that What you know about that

I know all about that Who built the ark? Noah, Noah. Who built the ark? Brother Noah built the ark. Oh man, that's the song that I'm more familiar with. Well great, Noah, before we get to know you a little bit better, you're going to be doing our over, under, and Jamie is third host today. But we just wanted to tell people what we're going to be talking about. We're going to be talking about that bullshit we all just watched. The Kavanaugh hearing.

Dr. Blasey Ford's testimony. And then, appropriately enough, we'll be talking about the Stakehams Twitter rant. But that's about it. Those are probably the two biggest things in the news. Those are the two greatest things in culture right now. Mostly the Stakehams Twitter. Natural transition. Yeah, greatest things in culture right now. Mostly the Steakums Twitter. Natural transition. Yeah, we're doing like an hour on the Steakums Twitter.

Yeah, I mean, like you just said, we already did the bit about how everything's solved now after that weird display. I mean, everything's fine, yeah. So Steakums is a frozen sandwich, guys. I'm not sure if you've heard about it. It is somewhere. We'll get into that later. Yeah. Miles will be giving the entire history I was so excited to hear that

I just can't hold it myself I thought it was dog food Myself You could have texted me about that No, no I know every brand of dog food But first, Noah, what is something from your search history That is revealing about who you are?

The two things I searched last night was the Pieta, which I believe is a sculpture by Michelangelo because I was reading this book called My Name is Asher Lev, and they kept referencing it, and I had never heard of it. Okay. And I also had to Google the Rams defense because I'm playing them in fantasy football tonight and I want to see about Aqib Talib's injury.

And so I went real highbrow, lowbrow with my search history there. What is the pieta? It looks like somebody holding somebody. Yeah, I believe they're holding Jesus. Mary holding Jesus. Yeah, Mary holding Jesus. Get down, which would explain why I didn't know a lot about it. Yeah. Yeah, man, what's wrong with you?

You're such a bad Jew. You're not a fan of my man, JC? Come on, bro. Putting words in my mouth here. You know, who else was a Jew? It's Jesus Christ. My man JC. What does he say? What does that mean?

Meet the parents? You're in good company. Yeah. You're in good company, man. JC. Wow. And we'll be saying wow for the rest of this episode. What is something you think is overrated, Noah?

Overrated outdoor weddings. Putting it out there. I recently got engaged and there was a lot of discussion. What is something you think is overrated, Noah? Overrated? Outdoor weddings. Okay. Putting it out there. I recently got engaged and there was a lot of discussion and that was like the one thing I put my foot down is I am in no way having to worry about rain or bad weather or it being too hot and me and all my groomsmen sweating. Yes. I'm like, there's so little you can control on that day.

Let me control the elements. Right, right, right. Outdoor weddings. Do you know what part of the country you might be getting married in? I know exactly. Oh, shit. Okay. Denver, Colorado.

And so my fiance wanted like a mountain view. And I was like, nope. Maybe after the wedding. We'll take photos outside and check. Yeah, the compromise is at the party, I think we're going to have a photo booth with a Red Rocks green screen. Oh. The hottest.

That's like a 20% compromise. But Dave Matthews is playing the wedding. Oh, well, there you go. Hell no. I don't think I've ever been at an outdoor wedding where I didn't sweat through at least my shirt, just because they're always... And the one outdoor wedding

I've been to in Colorado, I sweat through my whole suit. It was Soren Bowie's wedding. I get it. Beaches, mountains, it can all look beautiful. But people act like they've never seen a beach or never seen the mountains. You see it for a minute and then it's over. Yeah, it's funny.

Outdoor wedding, one of the last ones I went to, very hot. One before that, fucking rained. Right. And, like, I had to give up my jacket so someone else didn't have to get all their hair and shit messed up. And so I ended up with, like, a soaked dress shirt and jacket. And I was like. That's what I'm saying. In the history of outdoor weddings, has there ever been anyone that was like, that was a perfect day?

I have been to one. It was amazing. But it was in Guatemala. So maybe it's just America. I went to one that was almost perfect, except it was too hot during the thing. And also, you have to worry about your groomsmen's taste in sunglasses because that comes into a factor. And those are never good.

You need somebody like Jamie who has dope sunglasses. Minimal eyewear. Hacker eyewear. Yeah, minimalist sunglasses. To say all that, to say I'm team indoor. When you say that, it makes me think you had a groomsman

who had those Oakley over-the-top sunglasses that literally hugged the top of your head. Well, everybody has to wear sunglasses. That's the sunglasses of the woman that called the cops on the Oakland barbecue. Yeah, the wraparound type of, yeah. And then one dude has the flip-up shades when of the woman that called the cops on the Oakland barbecue. Yeah, the wraparound type of, yeah. And then one dude has the flip up shades when the bride's coming down the aisle. Yeah, exactly.

Whoa. It's a Michelob commercial. The Dwayne Wayans. Yeah, the Dwayne Wayans. They're Dwayne Wayans. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Taco Bell bean burritos.

Ooh. Taco Bell gets a lot of love. Had one on the way over here. The bean burrito. Taco Bell gets a lot of love. Had one on the way over here. The bean burrito, though. Yeah, Taco Bell gets a lot of love on this show, but I don't think enough people have talked about the bean burrito. That's why it's underrated. It's a vegetarian option, isn't it?

Yeah, it is a vegetarian option. It's inexpensive, but filling, it's not, like, you never feel gross after eating one. That's true. Yeah, because when you start eating that quote-unquote meat right yeah that's when I guess so your stomach gets defeat it did you just say are you vegetarian or you just did it to avoid the worm meat no I am I am reasonably vegetarian but I but I like I grew up in a kosher home so I was allowed to meet anyway so I just like grew up on the

bean burritos and I've always loved them it's like a security blanket for yeah yeah yeah you said you say you're recently vegetarian or reasonably vegetarian? No, recently. In the last six months I went vegetarian. How you doing, man?

Good. Doing fine. You found your fast food item? Still awake and strong enough to make it to the pot. You're acting like you left the cult

part of it. Wait, how you been? Is it all right? Is it cool out there? It's fine? It's not scary like the preacher says? So yeah, at my wedding it's going to be indoor. We're serving bean burritos. Wait, how you been? Is it all right? Is it cool out there? It's fine? It's not scary like the preacher says? So, yeah, at my wedding, it's going to be indoor.

We're serving bean burritos. It's going to be great. I'll bring my own. You know what I mean? And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? What I know to be false people think is true is that Ikea will break up couples or that Ikea is the instant couple fighter.

I actually think Ikea brings couples together. Wow. I think it's an awesome place to go with your significant other. Damn, that's such an optimistic way of looking at it. Yeah, well, you know, I feel like you should have a shared vision of the space you're trying to create. And on top of that, go get a delicious meal at the cafeteria afterwards. You're going to have such a beautiful marriage. I know. That's so nice. of that go get a delicious meal at the cafeteria afterwards i think there is like a spectrum of

ways to react to going it is a test it really is a test but you can but it's a passable test yeah but it's up to you how you respond because you can get upset and be like well then that's it we hate each other or you can be like well let's look at why we're mad and let's try and figure this out well i'm saying i don't even understand where the anger and the fighting comes from we were having a fun-ass time. There's just so many options to go look around and enjoy. I'm picky, and so is my partner, Her Majesty. And we have competing visions for the future.

So when we have to go there, it's like a reckoning where we have to reconcile our very divergent views of furniture and things like that. But like I said, it's a test where we then learn to compromise. But I can't say that it's like we walk in there and it's Rainbow City. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm generally indifferent towards most things. It's like I'm not going to fight tooth and nail over a couch as long as it's comfortable to sit on. I'll let her pick the colors.

Right, right, right. The last time I went to Ikea with someone, it was getting contentious. Then we passed a TV where the Aristocats was playing and we're like, oh, this is perfect. That solved everything. We watched 20 minutes

of the Aristocats and we're back to one. We'll start again. Right. Right. But yeah. Did you go there for anything? But like,

we went there for curtains. We went there, no, we were looking for like a bed frame and there was another competing visions issue. See, luckily there though too,

like there, it's either like, you have either like when you know your budget, it's easy to make a decision because there's only probably like three things in your budget. There's just a lot of reasonable options. Okay. But it tends to happen in a relationship when things are going up a notch. And I think the reason it has its reputation is because some relationships aren't ready to go up that notch. This would be a great branded podcast with Ikea.

They give us $1,000. We find a couple. We let them do a shopping spree, but we record everything. And then Noah can do like a postmortem with them. How'd that go? How are you feeling about this? I felt good about that. I feel like the few times I've done this podcast, the myth I tried to bust, you guys were kind of on board with.

So this is the first one where I felt like I actually. No, yeah. It's the grain. You guys felt like Ikea was a fight starter. Yeah. No, but then you made me look at my own shit and be like, am I just being cynical? I'm holding up a mirror, man.

Changing minds, changing hearts. The problem is you. Changing hearts and minds. And I'm tearing up the divorce papers in my bag after this show. So thank you. We've all learned something. The nightstand's not worth it, man. All right, guys, let's talk about the shit show

we just watched, Kavanaugh D-Day, as we have it labeled on our document for the day. So yeah, I don't know. First impressions, what are you guys' thoughts? Well, I guess for people, let's just give you a recap. If somehow you've been living on a fucking rock. So today was a day that Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford were both going to give testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee where they would talk about her allegations or not.

And, you know, like we talked about yesterday's episode, the GOP so bravely chose a woman prosecutor to cross examine Dr. Ford so they would avoid really having any clips of them that are usable in an attack ad really is what that was because there were no optics of them being like what did you think Chuck Grassley I'm sorry off top yo my man

we have to have term limits like this guy is a like even Pat Lee there's a lot of older people in the Senate where you're like... A lot of husks. Yeah, right. Like, in the husks. Man husks that are just withering in the wind,

and you're like, we have moved on, and you've stayed fixed. Like, cartoon versions of old men. Yeah. They're like the exaggerated cartoon version of... I could have swore... Chuck Grassley came off like a dude

arguing whether or not he's allowed to take his leftovers from an all-you-can-eat buffet. Right. He was like, well, I paid for this, your Salisbury steak, so I should be able to take it home and this bread. Right. Like, it was every now and then he would interject with that. And he could not, despite the fact that they had it set up so that he would not, you know, interact in any negative way with women, he could not stop interrupting women.

It was just nonstop. negative way with women he could not stop interrupting women it was just non-stop there's a lot of i mean not that this is just like not a shock and if anyone is shocked at people interrupting women in uh any space at any point at this point it's like fucking grow up there's no more if i and i was i was thinking about this today of like very rarely, like people are not really expressing that much surprise at this happening now. Now it's just happening. Right. And you make of it what you do. Something that bothered me about the coverage of this story that we were all watching it, the CNN live feed.

We were all watching it, the CNN live feed. And again, it's like the 24 news hour cycle is treated like fucking ESPN a lot of the time. But that felt like especially on display today where there was one point towards the end of the hearing where they took a five minute break and they cut to a fucking ESPN table full of commentators. and they cut to a fucking ESPN table full of commentators who were all talking. You could have literally switched out Kavanaugh and Ford or even men and women with any two sports teams, and it was indistinguishable. It's so weird and conflicting where it's this incredibly important moment, but it's also being treated and at some points played for by people i fundamentally

agree with uh as entertainment and you know like the even in you know the big theatrical court you know people save their headliners for last and you know you see ted cruz comes out at the very end and booker comes out at the very end and just the whole fucking production of it. Yeah. And that was something about Christine Blasey Ford's testimony that I found very compelling is that, I mean, aside from all the brave, horrendous shit she has to relive again for this fucking national stage, just acknowledging that, like, yeah, no one wants to do this.

And to an extent, she's being asked to perform, for better or worse, for everybody, and drudge up all this fucking trauma for everybody that she says at the beginning, like, I don't want to do this. I don't want to be here. And, like, you know, she doesn't want to perform for people because to some extent every person in that fucking room is performing something and some of them are performing something i agree with some of them aren't but all of them are performing lindsey

graham got his performance oh my god standing um she was incredibly compelling and very, very human. It was like an island of humanity in the middle of all this grandstanding. And, you know, dinner, dinner. All right, it's time for the main event. Like everybody was just really treating it like, you know, and then they would get the, you know, faux solemnity and be like, this is a very serious issue. But it was definitely treated like the fucking Super Bowl of politics. Well, yeah. Yeah.

And even the brevity pundits offer, suddenly they have a moment to laugh. It's still kind of shitty when you're really looking at what this situation is. And I feel like even – I remember as I watch it and trying just sort of to deflect my own discomfort and embarrassment as a man in a society where this is how women are treated or just sort of being like, yeah, like this is fucking shitty. I feel like watching it. I just like this. It seems like the worst way to actually mediate something like this. But again, it was clearly like this partisan dogfight thing where everyone had their combatant in there.

like this partisan dogfight thing where everyone had their combatant in there and whatever the collateral damage to these people didn't matter because they like they're playing another game too outside of this which is for the republicans when the culture war stacked the supreme court and the democrats is just like let's just try and block as much as the shit we can and like i guess these these two people happen to be the the conduits for that to all go down in but yeah it was a it was yeah it was one of those things too. Even as you talk about the commentary, people would go in like, her performance was riveting. Her performance was huge. A lot.

His performance, yeah. And there was one soundbite that was like, well, as we know historically, the women always lose. And I'm like, you could put in a fucking football team named there. Right, right. What are you? Wait, who said that? Someone on fucking CNN said that. The women always lose?

The women. Always lose. The Rams or the Bears. Like, it's just fucking ridiculous the way these stories are covered. I mean, that's not the huge point here, but it was something that stuck out to me, especially on viewing this today. And even like, you know, like us and the whole world gathered around it like it's a sports game. It's to a degree. It's like it's so important and we all need to be watching.

But it's also disturbing the way that we all consume it. And I don't know. Yeah. Well, it's like a cultural Super Bowl Sunday where everyone was like new people were like taking time out of the day to watch it because it's a very important moment what Dr. Ford did is very important and

but you think too like it also we were reading stories about people who Nick was telling us about like you know women who were watching and brought to tears hearing her testimony but they were Trump supporters and after they kind of wiped their tears and were like Telling us about like, you know, women who were watching and brought to tears hearing her testimony. But they were Trump supporters. And after they kind of wiped their tears and were like, yeah, but you know what?

I still don't think I think Kavanaugh should still be confirmed. Like it was people were still compartmentalizing what was going on to service this like culture war, this zero sum game where they're either the Democrats win or the Republicans win. And that's it. That's all. They're only looking to do that prison. or the Republicans win and that's it. They're only looking to add to that prism. That's a lot of the unfortunate part about it is no matter what happened today, people's minds were made up going into it. And unfortunately, I think we've all grown so cynical to know that it's probably not going to change anything.

Yeah. I hope it does, but I think if we were all to place bets right now, I would assume his confirmation is going to go through, unfortunately. I wrote last night, just as I was thinking about what was coming up, and also we were coming off of that Trump press conference where he just did Trump jazz, but really unhinged

and didn't really seem to be coherent for two hours. I was thinking about how people responded, and you clearly saw everybody who I know was like, what the fuck? This guy is clearly unhinged and a lunatic. But the, the other side was like, this is why we elected him. And I do, I really do think that we're at this point now where it's, it's not just that like people are, I think we tend to think that the other side sees what we see and they're just willfully ignoring it or bluffing and just pretending like something else happened. But I honestly think they legit see something different. Their brain is absorbing different information well it is a double-edged sword though because like a lot of the a lot of the post conference commentary was talking about how if their performances for lack of a better

word were flipped and he was really composed and polite and she would have come out belligerent and argumentative and combative people would have been talking about how horrible it was that she was that way while a lot of people were also saying the republicans were relieved at the fact that he came out guns blazing and took a really strong stance and so it's like exactly what they're saying they liked about the way he approached is exactly what she would have been blamed for had she had taken on that kind of tone oh yeah it's like brett kavanaugh is like too emotional to be elected to this hysterical man but no one would ever say that and that's the other takeaway is i i think he's guilty but regardless of whether he's found guilty or innocent of this, I think the lack of composure he showed at this press conference is an entirely different, less important discussion on why he might not be fit for the Supreme Court.

And also there I forget which Democratic senator brought this up, but there was I might have been. I don't want to get it wrong, but there was one person who brought it to his attention, you know, with that, like, you know, applying it to his own job of like, if you were looking at this situation objectively and you think what's happening is okay, you're a bad judge. Yeah, like you want the best evidence, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that was Richard Blumenthal, yeah.

Yes, it was Blumenthal. And it was, like, that was one of the more cogent points i thought made in this entire thing to him at least if like you know you can deny deny deny all you want but like you're not even doing good at the job you're supposed to be elected to yeah that moment and when durbin was calling out about like basically saying just open yourself up to the fbi investigation you're saying you're willing to clear your good name right and take any necessary measures to do that will you let on the fbi investigation that's when he was like as clumsily stumbling over his words and evading questions yeah yeah more at that point than any other point yeah it seems like the two like each each the democrats and the republicans had their strategy. And for the Republicans, it was just hammer this point in that Dianne Feinstein sat on this allegation to the zero hour and then suddenly sprung it on us.

At the victim's request. Yeah, at the zero hour. That's not fair. Like, what's that about? That's irrelevant. And they started the day out, like, giving her timeline from her perspective, from Dr. Blasey Ford's perspective. And it was, you know, she didn't want to come for it. She knew it was going to ruin her life.

But she eventually did because, you know, she felt like it was her civic duty. But they kept going back to that idea. Yeah. Here, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to continue talking about this right when we get back. Drake, we're going to continue talking about this right when we get back. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.

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of what's happening in the room. Like the people who cite the Nixon versus JFK debate where supposedly Nixon won, but because he looked like shit. Because that motherfucker was ugly. Because he was ugly and sweaty. People were just like, yeah, fuck that guy. That is funny. And Howard Dean's scream where in the room nobody heard it.

But because he was mic'd up, it sounded louder than it was. But anyways, I would just say up front that she was amazingly compelling, like as a, as a witness, you know, and just, yeah, like we said, came across as human and he, you know, this was his third try at it. And I do think that if he had had the same, you know, energy that he had had during his hearing where it was like clear, he was like evading and you know sidestepping that it probably wouldn't have gone well for him because they needed something like if you looked at fox news after her testimony right it was literally like looking at the home uh teams like network when they're getting the shit kicked out of them at halftime they were

just like they were just like that was not, that was not good. That was not good for Republicans. She was incredibly believable. They're down in the first, but they're going to, yeah. And then, you know, they needed some change, shift in energy. They couldn't just have him come out and say, deny, deny, deny. They needed like something. This fight back. Yeah, he came out with this.

It was really weird. It was definitely something. Yeah. It was really weird. It was definitely something. It was angry and crying. It's bad. Well, yeah, off top, he's screaming. So if you just juxtapose to their demeanor as they go through it. I am having trouble controlling the volume of my voice. But yeah, you could just tell that one person was clearly speaking

from a sincere place, from their own personal experience, and another person was very defensive and evasive and just could not. You know, like we were saying, if he's truly innocent and you were about to be a Supreme Court justice, I would imagine the demeanor of that person would say, I can't believe I'm here. This is unsubstantiated. I would love to have an investigation done to clear my name. Not, I like beer and a feminist texted me. have i would like i would love to have an investigation done to clear my name not i like beer and a feminist texted me therefore i'm innocent like it was all this like he just went down this list of really lame arguments like the the new like i had a friend who was sexually

assaulted therefore how could i be some kind of predator he also really made sure to hit on uh what's dude's name's drug history and talking about his addiction. Oh, Mark the Judge. Yeah, to basically discredit him if they ever get him to speak. He fucking came in like weak-ass ally attempts blazing. I was personally offended he was wearing a Bechdel cast t-shirt the entire time. I know. The entire time.

I was like, no one's going to fall for that shit. Feminist icon t-shirt. Yeah, he was wearing a feminist icon t-shirt. I was like, yeah, sure. He had the pussy grabs back hat on. Yeah, it was ridiculous. Typical pandering. The whole tenor of that just sounded like the dying breaths of someone who's drowning

and someone who feels like the rules have changed in the middle of the game for them. That's what I felt like we were saying. Yeah. It was like every time the Republicans speak to him, it was like two toxic bros being like, yo, I'm so sorry about this, man. Like 2018, huh? That's a fucking fucked up year. Well, it started out with the prosecutor. And then they were just immediately like, yo, she's not helping our kids at all.

Well, because her line of questioning sort of almost affirmed that there may have been an assault. And then they're like. Well, and when we're talking Rachel Mitchell. Yeah. When she said to Christine Blasey Ford at the end, you know, like, do you know this, that what we're doing is not the best way to address this problem? And it's like, yeah, I think we are all on some level. No, but we're all watching it. So like it was fun to see. I don't know.

I almost took that as her acknowledging, like almost taking a shot at the Republicans. Like, yeah, they're also now I think she probably felt like, damn, this is even cringy for me because I'm usually prosecuting offenders. And now you're having me cross examine a victim. I don't know how the fuck she I mean, I don't know much about the history of how she got involved in this trial, but what a strange thing to watch. Because by the end, it's like she's certainly not helping the team she's there to help, but she's not helping anyone. She's just sort of like wandering around this discussion.

So they wanted to portray this whole thing as a court case so that they could say, well, you haven't proved beyond reasonable doubt. And yet they kept on reiterating, you are not on trial. You are not on trial. But her rhythm was that of an actual court case where you have all day to cross-examine and examine the witness. And it was just too slow, I think. And it's more fucking theater that is not necessary. Right. slow I think and it's more fucking theater that is not necessary and the it is it was funny hearing the like

this is you're not on trial and repeated to Kavanaugh especially of like you know this isn't a trial but you know like it is the onus is on her to prove that she was raped which is just the which is I mean not for everyone but

is pretty common knowledge of that is why it is so hard to get rapists prosecuted, because it is so hard to have physical evidence because it's a fucking epidemic. And, you know, 36 years after to us and probably all of our listeners. This is very clear. But it wasn't until the past like three or four years there was even language to describe it and people who even sort of wanted to listen. So 36 years ago, anyone expressing like, oh, well, why is she just bringing it up now? It's like, dude, first of all, there's evidence that it's not the first time she's bringing it up. But also there were no systems in place that were effective and there still really aren't for this to even be taken care of in any which way where it's like I have an experience like this that happened five years ago.

And even then, when I was going to my school and going to the city, the police of the city I was living in at the time, this was in 2014. And there was still no clear way. And I had not received any education on if this happens, this is what you do. So this is so new of the fact that you would even report this in a public way and expect a result of some sort. And so the fact that, I don't know, I've talked about it with my mom a lot. I'd be interested in, because Christine Bosley Ford's my mom's age.

Right. And my mom, I mean, my mom had an experience like this when she was 18 that she just started talking about like a month ago. Right. Because, you know, in the late 70s, people did not talk about this shit. It just didn't happen. Yeah. And the way this went down, sorry to jump in.

I think the way this went down is just an example of how we've still not sorted out how to address these issues because even in this case where there's there there in the past there's been protocol like maybe we investigate yeah that much but now we're jumping to conclusions without all the evidence and again we're in a situation where we're just leaving it as like well we kind of know what we know and then let's just let's well it's a push or whatever it is right i do first of all i'm sorry you went through that jamie and uh i do wonder because this was such a like triggering just the the testimony and then having you know the her attacker there just like being so angry and uh shouting like i do wonder they say that anita hill triggered like the year of the woman in the uh in congress with a lot of women running for office i do wonder how much this will have some sort of impact like down the road

especially if he gets confirmed tomorrow morning or if they vote him. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's already a record number of women running for office. Yeah, no, but I think it could. It's still not going to be 50-50, though. I mean, I do wonder if there will be a big bump up in progress. I hope so, or at the very least, people, you'd think that the GOP's brand is so beyond repair at this point, with any rational person, right?

Anyone who may have been independent. You would have thought that for the last three years. I know. Exactly. And I get amazed every time. And that could be me just being a little too idealistic. But, yeah, again, I think what we saw there, people who clearly are going to believe what they need to believe in the name of self-preservation. And other people were just in a constant state of disgust through the whole yeah not necessarily even in just like a polit from a political standpoint but like what you're talking about the fact that there aren't the laws

in place that we don't have the institutions in place to address this sort of thing really that not sufficiently at this point like that women will become more involved in the law and the fact that uh an assault case of of sorts is still being treated on this circus-like level to me is just like more proof positive that people don't know how to handle these situations. Because there's no world in which a nationally televised – and the fact that people are comparing it to the Anita Hill case, which is very – I mean the parallels are very clear. But it's like, OK, so we're going to deal with this in the exact same way 30 years later. Why? Why have there been – why have the systems in place not improved or changed at all? They're like – the way things happen today, I mean even the fucking Republican prosecutor said this is not how justice or truth is. You know, this it's just not and it's not fair to the victim at all.

Where, you know, Christine Blasey Ford was saying, you know, it's such a difficult decision and victims ideally should have agency over how they come forward. And she was not afforded that. It was a time crunch in it. She had to agonize over the decision. And even in the movements of the, like last week with the why I didn't report hashtag where so many women and victims in general were coming forward with their stories. Those are such powerful movements that I think open a lot of eyes and does net good for the culture, Migos. But also, I do think that... The culture and culture too. And culture too.

I'm the fourth Migo. But in all seriousness, even those hashtags that are so powerful are still putting the responsibility on the victims. And it puts the responsibility on us to prove that this is something that's been happening by revisiting memories that are very painful that in all likelihood, if they were reported, were not handled correctly. Yeah. And that way, I think we've regressed. You know, we've come this far and we still do the same thing. I think there's a lot of value to social activism on social media like the hashtags.

I think they're effective for a lot of people. But at the same time, there is an echo chamber effect where all it's doing is the people who appreciate those hashtags are just reading them and either being triggered or angered by the prevalence of how often you see it or how frequent they are. And the people who could actually learn from them or are in denial about those stories aren't actually paying attention to the hashtag that becomes popular. that turns sort of into a discussion of like who are these hashtag movements for necessarily as like i don't know when i when i tweet out on on like uh believe victims or sorry believe survivors or why i didn't report or something like that you know i'm not necessarily hoping that that gets to someone who disagrees with me or doesn't believe me. It's more of like a community building thing and supporting each other. And, you know, hopefully if someone who was maybe on the fence about something like that,

but knows me and trusts me, that can be a push forward for them. There's some guys I went to high school with that I need you to talk to for me, just to kind of bring them over, make them more progressive. That's the thing that I worry, that I wonder about too. To kind of bring them over, make them more progressive. That's the thing that I worry, that I wonder about too. Like you say, Noah, like there are people who need to actually confront these kinds of societal problems we have. But there's clearly a version of America where you can operate in this bygone era where you don't have, there is no reckoning still. And I'm curious, like this was a moment you'd think obviously that it shows how far how

little we've actually moved forward that they could have said I'm sorry like as a report like this just on a human level is bullshit or whatever but clearly again there are they're competing versions and even like we said when they were so apologetic to Brett Kavanaugh and things like who's your empathy for yeah you know and that, yeah, I can't believe they're changing. They're calling fouls now all of a sudden? There's a great New York Times opinion piece about how America has a empathy issue where we only feel sympathy for powerful men. And like if a president gets like assassinated or brought down by scandal,

then we really empathize with them. But because that's like, we're a misogynist culture that, you know, when you look at the movies, the people we put in the main character who we're supposed to identify with are tend to be men. Fucking Don Drapers and shit.

Right. I have one more thing to say about how these, how the pressures on victims to come forward and say shit is, I mean, the idea, I was talking about this with a friend of mine the other day where we were sort of revisiting, you know, it's almost been a year since the Me Too movement and so much has moved forward and so much has absolutely not. And we were just talking about how having to do this over and over and over

because like is like, okay, so we just have to fucking dust off our like rape trauma every fall. Right. And like compose another fucking thing every fall to remind people. But that is how this movement is working and and every victim has a you know it's every situation is so unique and I think for me especially uh towards the beginning of working through that trauma social media was helpful and it felt like one of the only places where I could speak for myself and not feel like, you know, things were muddled and horrible. But, you know, I feel like in the couple of years since I've started talking, I've been, you know, talking about it for three years or so.

But even in that time, the expectation, I feel like there's almost an expectation that you have to talk about it now. Not like this is an option that's available to you where you sort of have autonomy over what you say. So fuck that. Well, that was something I struggled with during everything that happened today is I was on Twitter. You know, as a comedian, my feed is just full of comedians. And so many, like I understand trying to bring levity to a difficult situation.

That's at the heart of what we do. That's so important. But at the same time, there's so many people that were clearly taken today as an opportunity to just try to craft the perfect joke without offending, but still really kind of making a joke. And at the end of the day, it was like very clear that their objective today was not to understand or not to listen or to form an opinion but just to make sure that they got 3,000 retweets

and like that entire culture within the comedy community is so gross to me and so it's also like I know there's a lot of people looking at certain people's social media feeds like how are they not saying anything and it's like I left this entire thing alone because I didn't want to

take part in that circus of like making sure that you're crafting the perfect joke even if you're shitting on kavanaugh you know it's like just watch it and and formulate a thought before you're 100 guilty of that i think part of it too at least for me personally was i've you know there is such a level of frustration that i have looking at this and many other aspects of what's going on with like the government that that was a definitely a way for like to awkwardly deal with my discomfort in a way that is a way that i've expressed that just historically as a person but yeah i totally agree like part of it too i'm just like as as i was saying to jam too, is like there's still this.

Yeah, that there's a spectacle version where I'm and that's sort of how I've been inundated with media, too, that, you know, there's I can see it for what it is. And then there's a layer I can step back from and I go and this is a thing to comment on, too. And it's not, I guess, just for my own comfort can selectively engage with certain elements of that. Like one is to actually talk about the merits of what is actually happening. The other is the spectacle of it, because part of it is seeing how shamelessly people on the right, sometimes on the left, are like using this for just fodder or talking points. And then sometimes it's a commentary on that. And other times it's trying to call people on their bullshit. But yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I think there is this, yeah, I was having to reconcile the urge to like say something or call something out, but in a way that I don't have to live with how shitty and dark the actual situation is.

Yeah. I think that that's like a great point in general. I mean, like you were saying, Maz, I have engaged in upsetting public events like this a bunch of times. And it's like so fucked up to be like, how would who I am on the Internet interact with this? But I think that that is something that a lot of people are subconsciously thinking, kind of like what you were saying. And I don't know. I mean, I tried to log the fuck out mostly today but i still you know fired off a tweet or two and it is like i don't know it's weird no i feel i mean and i'm not trying to pass judgment no no no but well the other thing is like

what happened today would be well within the realm of things that you regularly comment on so it's like if i was going to your twitter feed i would expect you to be speaking about it whether it was through jokes or not but it's it's when people who obviously had zero interest in this before today suddenly hop on the bandwagon of like all right there's a lot of eyes on twitter and this is an opportunity for me to get shit seen you know it's like if this is what you actively engage in consistently then that's part of your brand for lack of a better word than by all means that's what you should be talking about but but if it's just like every single big social event becomes an opportunity for you to craft the perfect joke without paying attention to what's actually happening that's when it gets annoying yeah no i mean i'm i i i feel just like personally that i'm

not above scrutiny even when it's an issue that i care about and even I don't know even firing off a two-year-two today I was like ah did you like yeah did you need to uh I don't know something that I wanted uh everyone's opinion on I guess because I don't know where I fall in it was I was still like I opened my twitter feed a couple times even though I didn't engage that much uh there is a lot of the the fucking memes of Kavanaugh looking ugly and then adding shit like that. That is so normalized now

of like this is just what we do and I don't know. I think maybe it's a personal preference but I'm fucking over it

whether I agree with them or not seeing an unflattering picture of someone and I just I don't know. So there were a couple

examples of that. There are enough things to attack him over. There are a don't know. So there were a couple examples of that. There are enough things to attack him over. There are a couple examples of that where there were a couple pictures or memes where he was frozen in the midst of this nose wrinkle thing that he was doing over and over again that seemed to me like a tell, like that he was almost like had a facial twitch

whenever he was lying or like- Like fighting something back. or like fighting something back. Yeah, fighting something back. And so I was okay with like getting a freeze frame of like that because it did seem to, I don't know, capture something about his performance. That was his twisting the Oreo. Right. That was his twisting the Oreo. And then there was also a picture where he was enraged talking.

And there's a photograph where you see the six women behind him. And they're all just looking at him with the most complete disgust. I thought that was a great picture. But I agree. Just anything where it's so transparently like, Adoy, look at this dummy. It's like, yeah, that's probably not. And then connecting back to Noah's point

of like doing it kind of for like the clout and the retweets that will accompany saying that, I don't know. It's maybe I'm either old or just too tired. You are old. I'm extremely elderly. I don't know. I'm getting tired. No don't know. I'm getting tired.

No, I think this was a very, I think, exhausting day on every level for many people in many different ways. And like you said, we're in here feeling fucked up. We're like, I'm making jokes because I'm looking at somebody whose guilt is so apparent. Yeah. And we're just acting like this is okay yeah this guy every time there was a question asked that like would have really like a line of questioning would have taken us somewhere that may have gone somewhere significant he sidesteps or starts arguing with senators and things like that and you're like this is just how we're going

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That's why Fox News looked like they were mourning someone's death after her testimony because— The Fox and Friends flag was at half mass. Yeah, exactly. They were really worried. But even to that absurdity, right, the sadness wasn't over that this person may have been sexually assaulted by this judicial nominee. No, absolutely not. It was that. Yeah, it was that.

They're about to lose a seat. And then you're just like, what the fuck? And then that's that other layer where I'm trying to have a voice, like being like, look, we're not even engaging with this. Yeah. Anyway, I'm sorry. But I think the question is going to be him, or at least the difference is going to be in how we interpret his because i think from the rights perspective he seemed to channel this white male anger that increasingly is the only way that like white men can feel alive anymore i feel like like that's just culturally on the right that's like what what they need to like just get involved in a thing and on from my

perspective it just seemed so transparently weirdly like a guilty guy raising his voice because he wants you to stop calling out that he's lying and i mean the main issue that i wanted addressed is uh somebody pointed out uh that all of these character testimonies from his first hearing, all you had to do is go back and say, okay, have you ever hung out with him when he was drunk? Have you ever hung out with him when he was drunk? And they did go to his drinking a few times, but nobody ever was like, are you a bad drunk, basically. And he had this weird reflexive response to any time his drinking got brought up where he talked about drinking beer. And someone, God bless the internet, did a super cut of just all of his-

Is it auto-tuned? Yeah. Unfortunately, it's not, but we will work on that. I'm tired. I'm so tired. The way he was using the sort of idea of having a few beers with like binge drinking and acting like an absolute monster. It's literally code.

Having beers. It's along the same lines as locker room talk. It's just like this is a coded phrase for males being abusive towards women. Having beers and using alcohol as a rationale. Right. I mean, literally locker room talk in the sense that he was like, I worked my tail off multiple times. It's like, what are you, my fucking gym teacher? Like, worked your tail off?

That whole part really resonated with me. And, like, I got great grades, had a job, played basketball in college, and I was a fucking monster. Like, I only wanted to party and try to hook up. Like, I was never assaulting anyone. But, like, the fact that he thinks because he worked hard and got good grades and played sports meant that he wasn't some kind of shitty teenage boy. It's like all I wanted to do was party, and I did all those things.

Yeah. But let's hear him talk about having a couple beers. So many beers. I drank beer with my friends. Sometimes I had too many beers. I liked beer. I still like beer. Had beers. Have some beers. One beer with my friends. Sometimes I had too many beers. I liked beer. I still like beer. Had beers.

Have some beers. One beer. Drink beer. Drinks beer. Drank beer and drinking beer. You've probably had beers, Senator. Beach Week Ralph Club biggest contributor. You know, I got a weak stomach, whether it's with beer.

I like beer. You haven't asked for that. I like beer. I don't know if you do. Okay. You like beer, Senator? Um, none of this is hanging out and having some beers with friends which i gladly do and which i fully embrace having beers with friends what a cool guy yeah and it was that like and it was through that when

people were talking about his drinking too like you said that he would get testy right when amy klobuchar was asking him about, you know, has he ever lost his memory or like had a lost track of time from drinking, blacked out basically, he got straight up chest passed the ball right back to her. Him just getting really

disrespectful to a senator. So you're saying there's never been a case where you drank so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before or part of what happened that's you're asking about yeah blackout i don't know have you what yeah could you answer the question he stuttered and then said i don't know you that's not happened is that your answer yeah and i'm curious if you have and then he doubles the fuck down nor do i no drinking problem. Nor do I.

Okay. Yo, that— He's grasping at straws here. And especially because the senator also referenced the fact that she had had a parent. Alcoholic parent, yeah. Yeah, which is like the most—and thankfully she was able to speak to that later and be like, hey, just so you know, the children of alcoholics tend to be pretty fucking careful about how they treat beer. Having a beer.

They're a very unimportant side note, but was anyone else surprised to learn that the drinking age used to be 18? That was an interesting moment. Yeah, no, I knew that because I went to school in D.C. And the drinking age for as recently as the late 80s was 18 and just everybody could drink so there were like there was lore of those days when when freshmen could it was interesting i mean a lot of this has been kind of like uh bringing back up kind of the insurrection of like frat culture and how i mean it goes without saying that all male prep schools of any grade level should be burned to the ground along with the culture that comes with it. But it's interesting to hear that.

I don't know. It's weird. I feel like that specific section of problematic male culture has kind of fallen out of discussion for a while and now it's back, baby. male culture has kind of like fallen out of discussion for a while and now it's back baby I went on a fucking I fell in a hole last night of Tucker

Tucker Max does everyone remember Tucker Max I hope they serve beer in hell beers a couple beers in my head I'm like that book has to be 20 years old it is not it is 10 years old that book came out in 2006 was the top book in the country for over a year. And I think today it could not even be published.

It's just so, using that as a marker of how quickly things have changed in terms of political climate, that book would struggle so hard to find a fucking publisher to the point where Tucker Max, this is just a fun fact that I think is insane, Tucker Max now has to work as a ghost writer, and he ghost wrote Tiffany Haddish's memoir last year. He did? He did. But that is what's so fascinating,

is you're talking about, like, only in 10 years did a certain kind of book become unpublishable because it's socially unacceptable. And yet 30 years between Anita Hill to today, the same old process is happening. So it's like certain things are improving at a rapid rate while other things and unfortunately the more important institutions are just staying the same. Yeah, we're doing the easy shit first. It's like it's easy to not publish a book. It's easy to say don't do this kind of movie or whatever it's harder to then look and start holding people truly accountable and like

in more you know i think substantial ways too yeah because not i mean just like like not enough people with money or influence give a fuck yeah right that's it mean, just lingering things that we haven't touched on. There was his raising the idea that it was a Clinton-based revenge conspiracy. Revenge on behalf of the Clintons. That was what he opened with. Right. That was in his opening statement. And it was just weird. His opening statement was weird because of how angry it was.

But then also he would choke up and cry which like not not above it i cry literally all the time uh but uh but he he choked up at the weirdest times like he was he started choking up when he was talking about his calendar which was like his dad taught him about the camera it was somehow connected to his dad taught him about the calendar. It was somehow connected to his dad, but then he started talking about workouts, like workouts at his friend's house. Tobin. At Tobin's house.

And he started crying about that too. It was like workouts and calendars were the things that... He got choked up talking about how he bought a bunch of baseball tickets once. He was like, man, we're going to go to a baseball game. We're so fun with all my friends. He was like, ugh. Also're going to go to the baseball game. It was so fun with all my friends. He was like, oh. Also, how is this whole

calendar thing not the most evident proof that this dude is American Psycho? That's nuts. Had a few skis with the boys. Right.

What was his... It's like lifting. I will say, what was his one boy's nickname? Quee? Yeah. Squee. Squee.

That was the only part of his testimony I liked because that's actually kind of a cool nickname. Squee. Where's nickname? Quee? Yeah. Squee. Squee. That was the only part of his testimony I liked. It was actually kind of a cool nickname. Squee. Where's the whole Squee? What's Squee's story? What's Squee up to now? Oh, fuck. The fucking whole virgin with a calendar narrative really made me very tired.

Again, yeah. I think even just his idea that he would entertain this idea that it was a Clinton orchestrated hit job or even raising the specter of George Soros with the GOP, like, who paid for the polygraph test? Clearly, he's even too partisan to even be a judge, regardless of how this goes. So there are many things that objectively you'd be like, based on temperament or partisanship or what, you're going to have a dude step onto the Supreme Court with clenched fists looking at Democrats or people on the left. That is you're not going to get anything, anything remotely close to an impartial judge. Yeah. With an attitude like that.

Which is probably a pro for Republicans. Of course. Yeah. They want a fucking attack dog on that side. One thing I'll just say is as we look around at how this vote could happen at this point, you as we record this we just watched the testimony and everything now right so when you hear this all right you got us it's thursday well we had to it was late breaking it was late we had to get on we had to be on top of this thursday night but um you know if you know right now they're still scheduled to have a vote to get him out of

committee at 9 30 uh dc time and we'll see how that goes i mean people were reporting that je that Jeff Flake just huddled up with Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins and Joe Manchin, like right off to the side in the Senate building for whatever reason. Who are like the most on the bubble. On the bubble people. And like, if Jeff Flake moves tomorrow, this thing could change very differently. So I don't know. It's very clearly this was a very big day, but we'll see what happens.

I'm, you know, I'm hoping that I'm hoping that people do the right thing. Jesus. Right. Yeah, and I'll be interested to see how people who are watching TV respond to this. Like what? Because he is already a historically unpopular candidate for the Supreme Court, and I can't imagine that he's going to be more popular after today. Hey, the bright side is if they don't end up putting him in the Supreme Court, I bet they'll find someone really nice to put in instead.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet someone awesome with progressive views will be put in there. Yeah, right. The devil you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be a constitution and a wig or something. This person's fine. She'll actually just be Tucker Max.

Jamie, quick thoughts on the Stakehams. Go, because we probably can't cover it. Okay, here's the thing. The Stakehams thing, you were the one who brought it to my attention. You did a great dramatic reading of it. I was like, oh, shit, I'm connecting with this. Wow, isolation in the digital age. Oh, fuck.

Oh, shit. And then I went to pee and then i came back and i'm like you know what if you read it in a less compelling way than you did that's a fucking uh that's a fucking monologue from mr robot that's a cut scene from fight club dude he was like in this like imagine edward norton mumbling the stakeums account and it loses its luster entirely. Right, right, right. Where he's like, I can't believe these kids are isolated.

They got mental illness. So, of course, they start to connect with corporate accounts. They turn to the thing that wants to kill them and starts to connect with each other because of the computers. Well, anyway, I think we had to get to that one really quick, but I know we've got to wrap this up. It's like this, I mean, we've got to say what happened, right?

Yeah, well, I mean, long and short of it, yeah. The Stakehams account, Twitter account, just went on this like nihilist rant about- Which I guess they've been doing for a while.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. And they- Finally, one caught on with everybody. Yeah. And now we're talking

about their frozen sequences. It was just about how young people are vapid and our culture is dead and everything sucks. It was very Russ Cole from first season of True Detective. You know who would never tweet nihilistic shit? Who's that? Taco Bell bean burritos.

Yeah, that's right. They would just fucking honk the product. I thought it was an interesting thing, but ultimately that is great promotion for a shitty product so just keep that in mind when you're I don't know fucking your box of Steakums later is there a dog food that sounds like Steakums? Beggin Strokes

yeah maybe that's what it is alright Noah, Jamie thank you guys so much for living through this exhausting day with us and reacting to it with us. Noah, where can people find you, follow you? At Noah G Comedy on Instagram and Twitter. NoahGComedy.com website.

Good choice of handles. Is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? No. All right. I'm going to go check out the Steakums after this one. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And, yeah, tweets. Get up off Twitter.

Anything. Anything. Steakums. Just check the Steakums thing. Young people today have it the best and the worst. There's so much to process and very few trust in it. Yo, shut up, guy who just got back from his first semester of college. Also, V for Vendetta.

That's the other thing. If we can find a bunch of V words in here, it gets annoying very fast. Right. Jamie, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me on Twitter at JamieLoxusHelp, Instagram at JamieCrystSuperstar. But honestly, today, just fucking take a walk, text your mom and see if she's okay. Yeah. One of my, well, a tweet that I was enjoying today was from the great Megan Amram.

She tweeted at 11 a.m. Want to feel old? Today started 62 years ago. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

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