The Daily Zeitgeist - Keanu’s Reevesurgence: We’re All Witnesses, Bye Sarah 6.14.19

Episode Date: June 14, 2019

In episode 413, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and performer Rachel Wenitsky to discuss the Keanu Reevesurgence, the 'Tiger Mom' who supported Brett Kavanaugh, Michael Flynn angling for a pardon, Sarah Huckabee Sanders leaving the White House, the office of the special council recommending Kellyanne Conway be removed from office, author Nicholas Sparks being a terrible person, Jessica Biel supporting an anti-vaxxer bill, the Bieber and Cruise update, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. 5 Heartwarming Stories to Restore Your Faith in Celebrities2. So Much for Worshipping Meritocracy3. It Worked!!!4. Flynn Hires A Mueller-Bashing Fox News Personality As His New Lawyer5. Sarah Huckabee Sanders is leaving the White House at the end of the month, Trump says6. Federal office says Kellyanne Conway should be removed from government7. Author Nicholas Sparks Tried to Ban LGBT Club and Student Protests at His Christian School, Emails Reveal8. Well, Here's Jessica Biel Apparently Lobbying California Lawmakers Alongside Anti-Vaccine Activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr.9. Jessica Biel Insists She's "Not Against Vaccinations"10. California State Senate Passes SB 276 to Prevent Fake Medical Exemptions that are Contributing to Measles Outbreaks11. Justin Bieber is not looking to throw punches with Tom Cruise12. WATCH: Kashmere Stage Band - All Praises Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Rachel Winitsky. Hey. Hey. From the great state of New York. Yes. Upstate. Are you from New York? No, I'm actually from New York. Yeah. Upstate. Are you from New York? No, I'm actually from New Jersey. Okay.

Isn't that so embarrassing? No. See, this is what I say all the time to people from New Jersey. I'm from the valley. Okay. And people treat the valley like- Is that New Jersey of LA? Yeah.

Where people just have the worst assumptions. They don't know anybody and they don't know the greatness that comes out of the state like you. Yes. I'm New Jersey's greatest export. I actually love New Jersey and I defend it constantly. It's just not an exciting place to be from. Like when I meet someone from Arizona, I'm like, honestly, congrats. Wow, you want to see where Clerks was shot? Wait, is he from Arizona?

I didn't know that. Oh, no, from Jersey. Oh, Jersey, Jersey, Jersey. Yeah. I want to see where Sopranos takes place. Yeah. We can go to Satriales. Yeah.

In New Brunswick. I'm the same. Yeah, but I will always defend the valley to the death because there's a lot of stereotypes we have to overcome. Boogie nights. Boogie nights. People just think it's weed and porn. Those are not terrible things to be.

Those aren't great. For people to think you are. That's true. New Jersey's known for power plants and trash. There you go. We have trash, too. Of the humankind. Of the humankind.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trash. Of the humankind. Trash. Rachel, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about Keanu Reeves' continued moment, his whatever the Keanu Reeves equivalent of the McConaissance is.

He is having it. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the Tiger Mom, author of Ballad of the Tiger Mom, the ultimate love letter to America as meritocracy. We're going to talk about what her kids are up to. We're going to talk about Mike Flynn, because he is playing hard to the back of the room, the back of the room being for a pardon. We're going to talk about Sarah Huckabee Sanders leaving at the end of the room being for a pardon we're going to talk about sarah huckabee sanders leaving at the end of the month uh the office of the special counsel recommending the removal of kellyanne conway uh and nicholas sparks is a dick no yeah man and finally uh we're going to talk about jessica biel uh and what she has to say about vaccinations she's um i was just wondering

this the other day what does she have to say about vaccinations i She's... I was just wondering this the other day. What does she have to say about vaccinations? You know, it was so funny. I was just telling people, like, you got to watch The Sinner. Right. It's really great. You were.

I tell people that all the time. And then, like, in the same thread of me saying that, I then forwarded the Daily Beast article about her being anti-vaccine. I was like, uh... See? Please separate the art from the artist. Right.

I mean, really, that's the song by Big Black Delta is the real star of that whole show, too. Now that we had to put Jessica on the fire trash. She's not in the second season. No, no, no. So you could really just tell people it makes no sense. But I'll start saying start season two. Oh, yeah. There you go.

Yeah. I mean, Bill Pullman is great yeah, yeah. There you go. Yeah. I mean, Bill Pullman is great in it. He's so good. Yeah. He's become Jeff Bridges. Anyway. Oh. He looks just like Jeff Bridges now.

Yeah. How come Jeff Bridges talks so weird now? Have you noticed that? He has trouble. He had to differentiate himself from Bill Pullman. He's like, adjust my dentures. So my lips are. He talks like.

Around True Grit, things started changing. I felt like, with the way he was speaking. Do you think he just became... Like, he did it in True Grit, and then he was like, this feels really good, and I'm going to do it all the time? I don't know. Or maybe he's always just had something in his mouth. There's something... I don't know.

Look, I'll just wildly speculate on my own. I mean, I do feel like he just became the dude after a certain point. He was just like, well, this is who people want me to be. Yeah, this is working for me. And also, help me buy that Pendleton sweater that he wears. Yes. Because it's like $400.

Is it really? Wow. I mean, all Pendleton things are very expensive. I don't even know what that is. It's a brand where you're a designer where you can spend a lot of money to look like you hang out in the woods. Yeah, exactly. Which is how I always want to look. It looks like the kind of blankets you're required by law to drape on the backseat of a Jeep Wrangler.

Got it. It's sort of that kind of stuff. Like you should have some leaves in your hair type thing. If you want. You got to have the Pendleton blanket on that backseat. Rachel, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Recently, I've been searching nonstop how to cash out on an Israel bond. I got like a million for my bat mitzvah and they've been sitting around in a safety deposit box.

They don't equal a lot of money, but they are pieces of paper that should I take them to an Israeli bank, I could get cash in return. But it's so very complicated to do this. I'll probably just hold on to the paper for the rest of my life. There's no easy way to get those bonds? There is, but I'd have to go. I'd either have to write a letter to Israel being like, Dear Israel, please give me my money.

Please give me the $50 that my great aunt gave me. Or I'd have to go to an Israeli bank in New York and have them do it, which a trip? I don't think so. Sounds like the perfect scam. It's like, look, we make these bonds. We make it so hard for them to get it back.

Right, exactly. It's just very funny. It's such a specific thing. I don't think people really do bonds anymore. No, I remember getting bonds, like my grandparents got me a bond for my ninth birthday. And I was like, this is dumb.

It's dumb. And it was a huge bat mitzvah, bar mitzvah gift was getting Israeli bonds. And it's just such a funny thing because you get them when you're 13. And now I'm like- Are there really conscious kids who are like, I'm divesting for my bonds? Probably. I don't know. I'm like, okay, Israel, give me some money.

Right. Time to go. Is it just basically like getting a gift card for a country type thing? Yeah, it is. You show up with it. You're like, I don't know this. This? Does this?

Will you honor this? It's very funny. I mean, it's just like a way for people to be like, I'm giving you $100, but I spent $50 on it. Oh, is it? Oh, because like the amount looks huge. Yeah, yeah.

Because it'll be like, I'm giving you, I'm spending $50 on this bond and then in like 20 years, it'll mature and it'll be worth twice as much. But then it's so funny because it's like all these,

it's all these, they're all from family members who like are not alive anymore. Right. Oh, wow. Who were like, here's 25 bucks that makes me think of where my bonds are i have no idea like the kind of thing where your parents go

we'll hold on to this yeah exactly they're like in a safety deposit box probably in some bank that's a great terrible plot for a film is is you breaking into a bank to redeem your bond yeah or like or like some guy who stumbled upon some old bonds they had and suddenly they're rare and became a millionaire overnight. I don't know. Look, we're still workshopping it. Yeah, but he's too lazy to go to the bank to do it. Exactly.

We're going to break this right now. Yeah. All right. Warner Brothers, call us. Yeah, let's take a three-hour break to really dig into this. What is something you think is underrated um i think something that's underrated is um the show quantico starring priyanka chopra uh it's been canceled but the first season is honestly transcendent it's the best tv show

that's ever been made wasn't it a cbs show i think it was abc okay I said that as if I maybe wasn't sure, but it was for sure ABC. It was ABC. The first season is so good. I think Priyanka Chopra is the most glamorous, perfect person on the planet. The second season is bad, and the third season is even worse. And that's, I think, why it was canceled. But the first season is genuinely amazing and one time I got an audition for it because it shot in New York and I went and I got so amped that I completely blew it and forgot like I literally got so amped I I screwed up so what did you there

you're like okay and uh like Miles will be reading with you I like flubbed every single line I was like sweating I got to the end and the casting director was like, would you like to do it again? Oh no. Oh no. Wow. And I was like,

don't tell Priyanka. We already did. I'm so sorry. It was actually so traumatizing. Was that one of your first auditions or?

No. Oh, so purely off the strength of the show. or what? Yeah. I was like yeah hey kid i remember my first audition no it wasn't at all i just was like so amped because i love the show so much oh man yeah it was terrible well you deserve a two over i i'm hoping if i ever get like really famous what i'm going to do is uh insist that they make a fourth season of the

show right and use all your star power and leverage that just for a reboot yeah and then disappear from hollywood like and she remains elusive so it's about the fbi academy yeah it's about the fbi academy and then season two also about the c Academy. Oh, I got it. Because they were like, it's a one-year program, what do we do now? Oh, right. We sent her to another academy. Oh, was she like undercover as a person?

Yeah, I mean, I don't want to give away too much, but let's just say the FBI was investigating the CIA. Whoa. What? Yeah, I agree. Priyanka Chopra should be more famous. She's very famous. She is so famous.

She should do more work. Well, that's the thing that's really fascinating to me. I read this article about how she's in such a small minority. And by small minority, I think she's the only one who has ever successfully transitioned from Bollywood fame to American fame. And sometimes people will be like, she's not a good actress. And I'm like, she's acting in her second language. Like, how many languages do you speak? Zero.

Also, look at half these fucking American actors. They can't act for shit. Right. I know. I mean, I think it's really, she's like the biggest star in India. And we just have such a different. And now that like Game of Thrones move, getting with the Jonas Brothers. Yeah. Uniting the biggest star in India. Yeah, right. We just have such a different. And now that like Game of Thrones move, again with the Jonas Brothers.

Yeah. Uniting the seven kingdoms. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Now she's like on stage with Sophie Turner, like being sung to. I'm just saying she should have married someone more famous. Justin Bieber.

Who would you have liked her with? To truly unite the kingdoms? Wow. Jesus. Who would it be? Like Justin Timberlake would have been an interesting flex. Wait, when you're talking about the Biebs saying that he didn't want that smoke from Tom Cruise, were you talking about Justin Bieber or Bibi Netanyahu?

No, not. Hey, hey, you know Bibi Netanyahu. I'll fuck Tom Cruise up. Anything to get the Bibi Netanyahu accent in here. He owes me some bonds. I don't owe you anything. I've never seen this girl in my life. I need $50.

Never heard of it. What is something you think is overrated? Something that's overrated is being hot. I've been thinking a lot about this. I think that people... The temperature or to look hot? To look hot. I think people are really temperature or to like look to look hot I think there's like um

I think people are really into being hot right now people are really like reclaiming that especially in the comedy world I think it maybe has to do with the fact that I don't know how it is out here but in New York there's now like an event photographer at every single comedy show and suddenly it's like like everyone is really like dressed up and has makeup on and I think that's amazing I love makeup I love fashion but um I also think there's something to be said for like really looking like absolute trash oh yeah and like really dressing down and just being true garbage and not caring and I I want to reclaim that as well it's. I think LA is,

we are like the sloppy city. You go to New York, people dress like a little, they take their fashion a little more seriously. Not that LA people don't, but I think when I go to restaurants, that's when you see, because you go to nice restaurants in LA and you're like,

okay, we just crawled out of bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there are times in New York where I'll dress like an LA person and I'm like, I feel like I could have dressed up. Half leisure. Yeah leisure yeah i'm like i could have dressed up a little more actually fashion year is really i feel like la has a reputation of being like full of really hot

people but the vibe is actually very like i'm hot but i'm wearing like a linen cloth right and like and a giant hat right no shoes. And that's considered very chic. And New York is not like that. I look like I got dressed accidentally in these clothes. Yeah, exactly. I didn't do this on purpose. I fell into a pile of laundry. And this is what happened.

This is what stuck to me. This is what stuck to me. But yeah, I'm looking forward to the next, like, this summer is for me all about being as not hot as possible. So what is that, like, part of that ethos? Like, what is, you know, walk me through, you're making a decision on an outfit. Yeah. How do you live that fuck hot life? It's like sweatpants and a t-shirt, but not a cool sweatpants and t-shirt it's like um

a t-shirt that i bought at like disney world and with bacon neck like the collar's all fucked up like maybe i even tried to cut it to make it like look cute but i fucked up you gave up halfway through a diy project like still weren't. Like, sweatpants that have, like, a hole in the crotch. And then the fucking cuffs are so worn down

because you'd be walking with your heels on the back of them shits. Yeah, they're covered in dirt. Yeah, like when people used to rock their juicy pants to death.

I remember all the time when that was like, just Ugg boots with the tattered fucking juicy pants. Back when I rocked boot cut jeans, man. Oh, the fuck part of the jeans.

Smushed out. Yeah. Oh, I really miss that. Yeah, see, maybe that's part of the, that's the new summer wave. Yeah. Bring out your fucking, just stomp the shit out them heels.

Bring out your boot cuts. Like no makeup, but not just that. Like I want like acne. Like I just want to be like my full authentic self like I want to just show up with my huge pores and be like you know what this is me I'm going to go around singing that song

from the greatest showman it's like this is me but it's about my pores it's fantastic it's a crazy movie but it's great I've heard I'm missing I crazy movie, but it's great. Great. I've heard I'm missing it. I mean, I knew there was definitely some kind of fandom going on when they started doing

like sing-along. Oh, yeah. When the film had already gone out of its general release and they're like, we're bringing it back for sing-alongs. And I was like, people were fucking with this movie like that? Well, that song is amazing. I don't know what it is. What was that?

What? What's the song? Yeah, I'm sorry. This is me from The Greatest Showman? Mm-hmm. You haven't heard what it is. What was that? What? What's the song? Yeah, I'm sorry. This is me from The Greatest Showman? Mm-hmm. You haven't heard it? No. The Greatest Showman?

Okay, is it? I've constantly gone back and forth between Greatest Showman and The Greatest Showman. Showman. You went hard on the showman. The showman. Yeah. Wait, I can't believe you haven't heard that song. I don't know.

Miles, I'm disappointing you. What is a myth what's something uh that people think is true you know to be false um i feel like a lot of people say that like you shouldn't mix alcohol because you'll get sick like different types of alcohol but in my experience this is fine great it's fine okay it's fine fantastic and this i i'm definitely not saying this like as a scientist or a doctor, but as a person who like will drink a glass of wine and then a vodka soda and then like a tequila soda. And then we'll maybe like try somebody's whiskey Coke. Like you're fine. Yeah. I love it.

All in the same glass or you like to do it one at a time? I'll do it one at a time. Okay. Yeah, that's probably better. Yeah. All in the same glass. That's like those like when restaurants like serve you a drink that comes in like a fish bowl.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. With like five straws. And it's called like the killers. Yeah. People are like, yeah, we want that. They're like, we have pictures on the wall of people who have died drinking this. The mind strangler.

Can we get an extra large, we don't want this? Great. But yeah, debunked. Bunked? Great. But yeah, debunked. Bunked, yeah. You've been debunked. You've been debunked. You know, look, it's all about liquor before beer, never fear. Exactly.

Guys, let's talk about the Keanu Reeves McConaissance. Did you make that up? It's being called. The Keanu Reeves McConaissance? Yeah. Yeah, I made it up. Wait, is the McConaissance a real thing? Theves McConaughey's yeah yeah I made it up wait is the McConaughey's a real thing Matthew I know but McConaughey

McConaughey's people call that yeah yeah that's when like he had like four movies in a row that were like killing it and people were like wait he's a great actor this close to those the McConaughey's I thought you're asking if I came up with the idea to call it the Keanu Reeves. That too.

Damn, dude. I did come up with the- Damn, son. Where'd you find that? I did come up with the Reevesurgence. That's good. Yeah. The Book of Reevelations. I don't know why that makes any sense.

The end. Yeah. But I feel like what he's doing to this pop culture landscape is very, you know, squirched earth. He's everywhere. It's really amazing and beautiful. Yeah. All, I mean, it was bubbling, right? I feel like the first, and look, I'm not a journalist who's accurately, you know, documenting all this.

But I feel like the first thing we saw was that tweet that was like how all these lead action stars and the amount of female directors they had worked with. Oh, yeah. And Keanu Reeves was like number one. Yeah. Right. By far. By far.

Like 17 to 2 or whatever the fuck it was. And then the article came out about, the fake thing came out about him being lonely. Right. And then that set off all the Keanu sympathy. And then that was the same weekend that always be my maybe was John Wick 3 then he was suddenly in always be my maybe right and then now he's in Toy Story 4 and he's the best part you were saying he's the best part of always be my maybe like he plays like a douchebag version of himself he was pretty funny I mean the whole thing was pretty funny but yeah

it was a very pleasant surprise to see him come out and actually have I don't even know if he has comedic chops or the director just knows how to be like, this is going to be funny if Keanu Reeves just says this shit however he does. Right. Does he play himself? Yes. Okay, I haven't seen it yet. And I'm excited to watch it.

But I feel like I've been set up for his cameo in a way where it can't possibly live up to the expectations. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be disappointing at this point for those of us who haven't seen it. To me, it was a shock. Yeah, yeah. Because I watched it and I was like, what the fuck is he doing?

Well, and then people were on Twitter telling stories like, I worked on a movie with him. I worked in wardrobe, and every day he would come and leave us a sack of a million dollars. Right. It was all these impossible stories.

He gave, this is, yeah, this is one of those stories that doesn't seem like it could possibly be true, but he gave $80 million of his Matrix salary away to the special effects and costume designers because he thought that they did the- More work. Yeah. Like the better work on the- Are you for real? That's, yeah.

That's the truth That really is the story He gave 80 million 80 million dollars Wow I mean who among us hasn't? Exactly Yo Keanu 2020

Seriously I just love like I love when people are all piling on A famous person for a really positive reason. Right. Yeah. It's better than the other. It feels nice.

It really does. Yeah. He's apparently like one of the best parts of Toy Story 4. There's always like new news of Bill and Ted 3. Like there's a. Right. Oh, yeah. You were saying that.

And I think Kid Cudi's involved or something. Kid Cudi's like doing the music for that. Something, yeah. Which I love. And John Wick is so fun. Yeah. See, look, just back to him as a presidential candidate, right? Okay.

You couldn't say he's soft on defense because there's that viral video of him clapping up all those targets with speed. Yes. Also, the movie Speed. Right. He knows how to navigate very tense situations. Well, that's a movie. And he takes the bus.

He's so down to earth. Exactly. He's like Joe Biden without. And he takes the bus. He's so down to earth. Exactly. He's like Joe Biden without the force to take the bus. He's like Joe Biden without the touching because then all those photos

came out of how with fans he has like the open palm behind the back. So that's what I was doing in the picture with Jamie and Lacey. Oh, you're re-sing it. People were like,

why are your hands out like that? Because I was trying to do the Keanu where you just keep your hands visible. It just looks different when you do it. It's really amazing. It's amazing for it why are your hands out like that? Because I was trying to do the Keanu where you just keep your hands visible. Like, Hey, when you do it. Yeah.

It's so, it's, it's amazing for it to be happening right now too. And like so many terrible men are like, it's impossible to be a man right now. You have to be so careful. It's like, actually know if you're a good man,

like people will notice and actually like keep praise. Yeah. Exactly. Cut to fucking the one. No, no, I see the matrix. Yeah. Exactly. Cut to fucking the one, Neo. Right. No. I see the Matrix. Yeah.

He buys people like Harley Davidsons who work on his movie. He's given away $20,000 to somebody so they could pay off their debts. So now at this point, the people who work on his movies have to just be loudly talking about their problems. Oh, man. Right. Oh, boy. How you doing, Keanu? Sorry, I'm Miles, the sound guy. I'm going to get this about their problems. Oh, man. Oh, boy. How you doing, Keanu?

Sorry, I'm Miles, the sound guy. I'm going to get this mic on you. Oh, God. Oh, fuck. My kids are hungry. I'm sorry. Is something wrong? My fucking daughter needs new eyes.

Yeah, I don't know. She just needs new eyeballs. New ones, man. I don't know. She just needs new eyeballs. New ones, man. I don't know how to get up. Hers are all fucked up. And you're like Keanu, and I'm just some fucking sound guy. He's like, dude, dude, take my eyes. No. Whoa, take my eyes.

I'm a mere actor. I honestly, I couldn't, Keanu. I mean, all right, fine. How do we get him out? I've got it. I honestly, I couldn't. I mean, all right, fine. How do we get him out? I've got it. He just ripped it. Wow.

I also remember reading like an interview about him a few years ago where they were talking about how he like always walks around holding a book. Like he's always reading.

He's always reading a book. I was like, this dude is awesome. You know Jamie Loftus? Yeah, from Twitter. So she, so she used to work at a bookstore where Keanu Reeves would go into all the time. And she worked at Book Soup.

And he's like, he would call. And anyone who hears this show is my terrible version of Jamie doing this anecdote. But he would call this store and be like, it's Mr. Reeves. I'm going to be picking up my books. And it was all Sudoku. He'd come in with the Sudoku books. He's like, oh, great. I haven't read this one yet. These are really challenging and humbling.

Oh God. I liked him up until the Sudoku part. Can't do it, man. Can't do it. You don't respect the Sudoku? No, I'm just playing around. The one thing I don't respect. That's the one thing that does it for me.

Fuck that. Well, also, but you know when you reach for the in-flight magazine when you're bored and you like want to do a crossword or the sudoku and some other person

does that shit just tear it out or airplanes hello can you replace them things because I don't want to pay for wifi so I don't use my phone

so I have to read westways this is Miles' tight 15 minutes yeah it's called what else can you replace them things on a on me. Can you replace them things? On a stand-up special.

Can you replace them things? My miles live. The worst get-drained. Yeah, live at the cave. Can you replace them things? Can you replace them things to war? Yeah. Hey, de Blasio, what's going on with the fucking subway?

Can you replace them things subway can you replace them things can you replace people just going out where's your sign yeah i just mic drop all the time come on stage what's with the fucking potholes man wait you replace the potholes and that's when my career yeah that's one audience member goes wait hold on replace the potholes why he should fix them all right we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna be right back after that Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.

Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese

is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better

because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there is a new story. Are you guys familiar with the Ballad of the Tiger Mom? The Princeton law professor who wrote a story about how she raised her kids by subtle child abuse. You know, I... You mean she's called grown-up Asian?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was Tigered. Yeah, like the anecdote that everybody heard or like that everybody talked about was that her daughter was playing the piano badly or like and she made her stand outside in shorts uh in like 20 degree weather oh well no my mom didn't know that for uh so it'd be like no playstation game for you if you have don't have an a anyways so the author is a princeton professor uh who's married to a different Princeton law professor. They raised their daughter doing stuff like that, you know, being really hard.

And, you know, the idea is that it's all worth it because you become a stronger person. And the stronger you are, the more successful you'll be because we live in a pure meritocracy. Right. And I can only imagine, I mean, the tough life of that child to be in the unfortunate situation to be born to two Princeton Law professors. Princeton Law professors. I mean, I can, oh, I can't wait for Ava DuVernay to tell her story. Yes. So.

Where's her miniseries? Right. I actually grew up in Princeton Oh wow Okay tea time And this is my life This is my story A little awkward here

I'm actually good at piano now But yeah I was like Okay yeah this checks out Yes So she Her daughter has actually Is a grown-up now, and she just graduated from Yale Law School, which she got in purely on her own merits

because her mom was mean to her, and she tried extra hard. But back during when Kavanaugh... Who? Brett. Oh, Brett, Oh, Brett. Brett. When he was first nominated, the Tiger mom, Amy Chua, wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.

Oh, right. And was like. Defending him, right? Yeah. She was like, he is a mentor to women. He is the greatest guy to women. This was before all of the allegations started coming up. And people pointed out, oh, weird,

because your daughter's graduating from law school right now. And she needs to clerk somewhere. Yeah, needs to clerk somewhere. And the ideal place to clerk is with a Supreme Court justice. That's just interesting is all. And she was like, no way. No, my daughter would never do that. And the daughter was like, no, I have to complete my ROTC training or something. Anyways, it was just announced that her daughter is interning with Kavanaugh.

Oh, great. Yeah. No pay to play there. None. Do you think that it's because Amy Chua really believes? Is it both? Like she knew this was a transaction and she's kind of has weird views on Brett Kavanaugh? Or you think she put all that shit aside just for her daughter? So another thing, like people did research into her relationship to Kavanaugh and found that she tells her women students that if they're going to clerk with him, they need to dress a certain way. Oh, I remember this. To be like hot.

Yeah. Because she said, quote, there's a reason that all his female interns look like models, uh, that you have to, you know, sex it up for,

uh, Brett. Cause he's like a Karl Lagerfeld of traditionalism. That's what she meant when she was like, there's no, there's no one who's going to be better for women. Right. It's kind of like giving them makeovers or forcing makeovers upon them.

Giving makeovers or just making really shitty comments. Yeah. This is what I'm saying about being hot is really having a moment. Yeah. Too much hotness. Too much of a moment. Yes. What a crazy story.

I know. I imagine that clerking for Justice Kavanaugh is like is the equivalent of standing outside and wearing shorts Right, oh Jesus God can we impeach him or something soon, but this is the Writers at New York magazine were pointing out that this is a book that is like taken as sort of a philosophical text. And they pointed to a speech from David Cameron in 2016, where he said, it is what the Tiger Moms battle hymn is all about. Work, try hard, believe you can succeed. Get up and try again. And just that idea of like pure,

I don't know. It's like the conservative ethos is that like, well, you'd have a job if you just tried hard. Tiger moms battle him is you're embarrassing me. Right. That's all that shit is. That's projecting their,

you know, public perception to be like, well, you have to achieve so I can point to you as a success story. And then that will help enhance my ego. And become a bestselling author on the back of how I treated you like shit. Damn, the fucking piano thing. I'm so glad my mom was like, cool with me not playing piano. But she did give her a choice. I mean, the girl was four years old, but she did give her a choice. She was the girl was four years old but she did give her a choice she was like would you like to stand outside or would you like to play the piano not fucked up right um oh so i guess you like it out there huh okay uh miles you were saying that mike flynn is definitely just going full in he playing for a pardon now he i don't know what the

fuck happened to this guy you know he went from someone who was cooperating so hardcore with Robert Mueller that like prosecutors were like, honestly, our recommendation is like no jail time. He's been such a delight. He's been spilling everything. We all love him. We love him. We love being around him. He's like so nice.

He tells the funniest stories. He brought us cookies. I don't even nice. He tells the funniest stories. Exactly. He brought us cookies. I don't even know how he made those in his prison cell. And that's not my place to ask. You know, he's very just, he's. He's fun. He's great.

Yeah, he makes it work. So, you know, as this was happening, he was facing sentencing. And like in one of the, there was some paperwork that his lawyers had to file about something around the sentencing. And they were basically in it for the first time. He was kind of suggesting like, oh, you know, I was kind of set up by the FBI, you know, because I didn't know I couldn't lie to them. And like trying to make it seem like he was basically, like not coerced, but just sort of entrapped or something.

And this is when the judge like threw it back at him. Was like, are you serious? They're like, you sold your fucking country out at best. So what the fuck are you talking about? These women set you up. You lied to federal investigators. I don't know why you need to know when law enforcement comes to interview

about potential crimes that lying is bad. So this has kind of been evolving. And then recently he fired his legal team and hired Sidney Powell, who is a talking skull on Fox News, whose whole existence, her whole personality is Robert Mueller is a fucking, you know, goon. This is all a joke. It's a witch hunt. You know, just your typical legal pundit who's there to try and discredit the Mueller investigation. So now with this person and the driver's seat of his legal defense, a lot of people are like, oh my God, like it seems like he's going to start taking a much more aggressive approach to trying to cast doubt over like his guilty plea. So because this is the kind of things

that she says, this is from a quote, even before he was, she was hired to be his guilty plea. So because this is the kind of things that she says, this is from a quote even before she was hired to be his legal representation. Quote, like many others, including a disproportionate number of young minority men who have no resources whatsoever, that does not mean that he did anything wrong. All it means is that he, like so many others, saw no other way out. Mike Flynn is like many young minority men who have no resources whatsoever. You got kicked out of the Department of Defense for fucking around.

Then you started lobbying, making some money. Talk about an underdog story. I think the only thing that he has in common with young minority men are maybe the ones that are seduced into joining the military because they have no other financial recourse. Right. But that could be the only,

I think the similarities in there that they were just in the military together. I don't know. But again, trying to paint him as somebody like, you know, this is in, um, what was that show with the dude in Wisconsin about the murder,

making a murder? Yeah. Like that. He was like that the murder, making a murder? Yeah. Like that. He was like that kid. Yeah. Like Brendan. Yeah. Where they were like, this poor boy has been railroaded.

He's like, so you were setting up back channels with the Russian ambassador. Yeah. Did you do it? He did it because his brain too dumb. Yeah. Brain too dumb. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Can I go watch wrestling now? Yeah, exactly. Mike Flynn apparently only gave that testimony because he wanted to go home and watch wrestling. So everyone is basically saying, you know, they're like, this is legal suicide. Yeah, well, how do all these people have the worst lawyers?

Well, at this point, I think what he wants to do is probably try and save face, be like, actually I didn't do anything wrong. Maintain his innocence and then just hold out for presidential pardon. Ignorance. Ignorance. His ignorance.

Yeah. Ignorance. And I mean, plus, you know, when it doesn't help either when we heard that voicemail of Trump's lawyers calling like that voicemail, it's like, hey, you know, the president really likes Mike. So I want him to stay strong because we're fucking dangling a pardon in front of you. Right. But, yeah.

So, Mike. Oh, boy. I wonder if he just heard that voicemail when it became a news story. And then was like, oh, shit. It's like, you've already done everything. Okay, fine. Yeah, so, I mean, maybe he,

I mean, conversely, he could maybe just really want to go to jail. Right. So, yeah. That poor, innocent man. Yeah, so I mean, conversely, he could maybe just really want to go to jail. Right. That poor, innocent man. Yeah, I know. I hope Ava DuVernay gets to his story as well. She's got a lot of work ahead of her. She's got a lot of work.

Because there's also coming up the Sarah Huckabee Sanders story to tell. It's worth truly giving it up for her and what she's accomplished in her time. There's a White House pool reporter who, even before she announced her retirement, was saying, I've been in this business more than three decades, and what's happening now is unprecedented. We are attacked on a near daily basis using Stalinist language. We are called corrupt and dishonest. We are given false information from staff who often know full well that it is false. Yeah.

Well, you know, she was young Goebbels, the second coming. So just be the minister of propaganda. I mean, good riddance, man. Get the fuck out. And I hope she, just like Kirsten Nielsen, deserves to be treated like a fucking pariah. Right. Right. Oh, yeah.

She's not going to be making fun appearances on late night shows. No. I mean, oh, God. Remember when fucking, what was his name? Sean Spicer. Spicer. Ugh. Right.

What the fuck was that? That little media tour he did was one of the worst things that's ever happened. Yeah, it was the Emmys. The Emmys, he came out and did a bit. Bits with Stephen Colbert. And everyone was like, we like him now. Right, yeah. He's fun.

Yeah, I just don't think that's happening with any of these people. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. And then Trump's tweet about her was like, she served us for three and a half years. And everyone was like literally that's not true that's not the right number his last remark about this

was like she has been our press secretary for 17 years what are you talking about forget it three centuries sure sure yeah um well we what else who else all the president's men are uh in the news because uh kellyanne conway is also uh being

talked about because the office of the uh special counsel has recommended that she be given a promotion. No, that's not right. That she be fired immediately. She be fired yesterday. The letter or the report on the finding is basically that she has repeatedly and overtly just broken the Hatch Act, which says that you, as a cabinet member, as somebody working for the president or vice president, president and vice president can do things that are partisan, but people who work for them may not. It's called the Hatch Act, and she has broken it in action, but then she's also done things like when she was asked about the hatch act,

she stated, if you're trying to silence me through the hatch act, it's not going to work. Let me know when the jail sentence starts. That was quoted directly in the office of the special counsel's report. They were like, yeah, we heard that.

I know you said that. It's like she, she actually even called out the thing she was violating. Right. So they couldn't even feign ignorance on that. Yeah. It is so insane to me that out of all the people that have been kicked out or forced out of that administration that she is somehow still standing. Yeah.

She's like Haley Joel Osment at the end of AI. The whole world has died and she's just like-apocalypse, still going. Yeah, but not changing her vibe at all. Yeah. Straight up. It's crazy. It's tough, too, because all they can do is be like, I think you should fire her.

Right. And he's going to be like, okay, no. No. Yeah. And then we will continue just to just erode these institutions because and there are other people too have come out it wasn't just her it was someone else i forget what other cabinet person was just like oh what are you gonna get me for violating the hatch act right it's like okay you're right this is what

happens when you don't actually restrict anything right or actually there are no consequences for these transgressions. Right. Right. And she actually probably did a good thing by making like a joke about the hatch act. Cause now everyone's like, yeah,

it's a dumb thing that we don't have to care about. Right. Or it's, it's one of those things again, like where we have to now make these things fucking laws because it used to just be like, right. That makes sense.

We're all going to honor that. Yeah. But we, as I always say, the metaphor, like we're in this Viking age where people have just pulled up and looked at these institutions like, right, that makes sense. We're all going to honor that. Yeah. But as I always say, the metaphor, like we're in this Viking age where people have just pulled up and looked at these institutions like, no. Right. They're like, this is all fake.

Yeah. They're like, okay, what happens if I do this? Like, well, the Office of Special Counsel might recommend that you get fired. Okay, but am I fired? Right. Or they might recommend that. It's like, okay, get the fuck out of my face. Right.

Yeah. That's what. Somebody was saying that it's 90% norms and like 10% laws. Yeah. Most of it's like human decency. Yeah. It's just like, oh no, that's going to look real bad for me. Right. Uh-oh.

Oh boy. And you're dealing with a virus that is this GOP that like any living organism that is facing an existential threat will begin to claw and scratch and do whatever it can to survive. And in this case, if that means tearing down or just ignoring norms, then so be it in the name of longevity. And that's sort of the same thing with that dumb shit Trump said in that ABC interview where George Stephanopoulos asked him, hey, if you got another offer for Russian dirt,

like, what would you do? Would you call the FBI? No. Why would I do that? If someone says they have something, and if they say that, and I want to take a look, then I'm going to take a look.

I'm just going to take a little look. A little peeky-boo. A little peeky-boo. But do you think it's bad that the other foreign governments are intervening in our election? No, no, no. It's not interference. That's what he said.

It's not interference. Yeah, it's not interference. Right. What? Not interference. And that's, again, that is a byproduct of people not reigning this president in at all. So he's like, yeah, I already did it once. You asked me if I'll do it again because nothing fucking happened.

Right. Obviously, I would do it the same way twice right right right and now he's like i'm also at a point where i'm if these poll numbers are right i fucking need people to give me this yeah yeah like i need deep fakes i need fucking docu i need it all oh man they're gonna go so hard on the deep fakes i think we'll get deep faked pretty hard yeah it's just i don't think the technology's quite there yet i think we'll be able to like tell it's a deep fake pretty quickly but well usually what'll happen is i feel like if they say it happened on a so-and-so date they'll be like i wasn't even there that day right that's clearly from this other thing yeah so it's gonna take a while but yeah but these are this is sort

of what happens when we have no guardrails yeah so he said that he would take the information he might turn it into the fbi but also have the conversation with vladimir putin or let's say it's norway or norway yeah who uh but then he clarified afterwards guys that he has lots of conversations with foreign leaders uh the queen of england the prince of w-h-A-L-E-S, Wales. Wales, yeah. Shamu. Shamu, he was really gracious. Yeah.

I love when he deflects, like when he puts it onto other countries, like with the hacking where he's like, it could have been China. Yes. He's like, I talk to leaders all the time. Maybe I'm getting information from France. Right. No. Like, you know that's not what we're talking about.

Yeah, right. But yeah, that is his thing. Yeah, it could be Sweden. What if I was talking to Norway. Yeah. No. Like, you know that's not what we're talking about. Yeah, right. But yeah, that is his thing. He's like, what if I was talking to Norway? Yeah. But that's not what happened, man. It's like the worst pivot. And he does it over and over and over again. I mean, okay, let's say it was Norway.

Why would we say it was Norway? It was Russia. Yeah, we don't care. Right. Go ahead, get dirt from Norway. Right. It was funny because even like people on Fox were on Fox didn't know how to spin it. Right after that, Brian Kilmeade on Fox & Friends was like,

you know, the president should have, he really opened himself wide up to criticism after saying that. He's like, obviously we don't want foreign, like Brian Kilmeade was like, obviously we don't want this. He's like, the president should clarify that. We're not going to criticize him, but he did open himself up for me. And I won't do it, but I will acknowledge that. People could.

Laura Ingraham, her attack was shame on his staff for letting him say that. For letting George Stephanopoulos tower over him in the Oval Office and put him in that position. Put him in that position. I mean, so when it's something that is treason, essentially, they're like strategically a questionable, but one could argue courageous move on his part. Yeah. And the funny thing is, I think Kevin McCarthy, you know, the minority leader in the House, when he was asked about it, he was like, no. He's like, really? The interference began with the Democrats when a foreign agent of Christopher Steele, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, hmm. Exhausting. It's really exhausting. You're sweating out your fake tan on camera. God, his eyes were so mismatched from the rest of his skin in that interview. It's just. Again, look, we told him he needs a beauty blender. But I mean, so I've noticed that one of my three-year-olds biggest fears is getting is getting uh is getting shampoo in his eyes like he won't let me wash his hair yo that was like me

right he's gonna be a genius and i was remembering like when i was a kid i never wanted to get soap in my eyes yeah so wait you soap your head no yeah yeah i washed my hair with a dish soap no but you know we'd all go to the gas station. I wonder if Trump's whole thing, why his eyes are always so white, is he's like, no, no, no, don't get it in my eyes. Oh, the makeup. Yeah, the makeup.

It stings. It stings my eyes. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. I just... I read it. I was watching a YouTube makeup tutorial. It brightens your eyes a little bit. If you just leave it there.

I always imagine that he goes in a tanning bed and wears those little goggles. The little goggles. Yeah, those little goggles. Yeah. just leave it there. I always imagine that he goes in a tanning bed and wears those little goggles. The little goggles. Yeah, those little goggles. Yeah. But, you know. That's his style. He needs to embrace not being hot.

Yes. You know, he's too concerned with being hot. That's impossible for him. It's impossible for him to embrace not being hot. I'm honestly, I think next to being called broke, his next biggest fear would probably be like, you're actually not even, like, you don't even got it going on like that. The fuck are you talking about? What was it like a couple of weeks ago when he like went to that event right after it

was like a memorial event? The mass shooting. Yeah, for the mass shooting. And he went like in his golf clothes and his hair back. Yeah. And it was this weird thing of like, oh, this is terrible that he showed up like this. And also he somehow looks better than he's ever looked. It was very scary.

He looked good from the eyebrows up. He looked way more normal. But his outfit was insane. People were like, how did he have the waist so high and still so much excess bagginess at the bottom? The pants went down past his toes. Why does he wear his pants so long?

You think his jeans look all mashed up in the back? Oh, yeah. He gets new ones. For sure. Never wear those same pants. Same pants. Actually, what I do is they cut off the bad part and they add an extension. Can you make these longer?

Yeah. He gets his pants hemmed longer. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with whether or not Nicholas Sparks is an asshole. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.

When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner.

The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.

I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things

sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here to let me waste. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and I'm shocked. Nicholas Sparks, the man behind The Notebook, the man behind a number of other bestselling novels that are like The Note notebook. Other books that are not the notebook. Yeah, exactly. So a lot of people call them romance novels. But see, the thing is that they're actually just love stories, is what Nicholas Sparks says. Oh, my God. Because romance novels...

Wait, how does he differentiate these? Well, so romance novels are formulaic. They all have the same inner struggle. His books are groundbreaking. Yeah. Let me guess. They all have this. I'm. His books are groundbreaking. Yeah. Let me guess. They all have this. I'm sorry.

Have you ever read Shakespeare? I mean, they're all formulaic. You know, two people meet and fall in love. It's like, right. We got to do something with the form here. In mine, two people meet, fall in love, and then they die. They die. So groundbreaking.

It's a love story, not a fucking romance book. Nicholas Sparks sounds like Keanu Reeves in my head. He's like, um, actually? Actually story, not a fucking romance book. Nicholas Sparks sounds like Keanu Reeves in my head. He's like, um, actually? Actually, the difference between a romance novel. So Nicholas Sparks, in reality, sounds like a total asshole. The Daily Beast printed some emails he sent to, so he, like all best-selling romance novelists do, started a high school for Christian values.

Of course. A high school? Yeah, a high school. What? It's like a prep school. I didn't realize. I thought for some reason it was like a church. Is it a high school church?

It's like a spirituality high school type thing where they teach Judeo-Christian values. Got it. They're not going to say one way or another, you know, if it's more Christian or not. Is that what they mean? So they recruited a headmaster in 2013 from South Africa because they supposedly are all about spirituality and worldliness and being well-traveled and stuff. And so the guy showed up and he was like, there are only two black kids in your whole school. That doesn't really make sense

because the community is 40%. He's like, get them out. Where is this? How's they get out? That's too many. Oh, it's in South Carolina. Is that where Nicholas Sparks is from? Yes.

He was a pharmaceutical salesman and then made it as a writer. I never knew his origin story. And then then made it as a writer. I never knew his origin story. And then he got bit by a spider. Yes, exactly. He got bit by a radioactive bug. The book jumped down. trying to honor the identities of LGBTQ kids

and wanted to let them have a club where they were able to celebrate their identity. And he came hard at the dude and was like, you are an idiot. You are just really saying brutal things about the guy. This is a direct quote from one of his emails. While I am not a doctor, and as scary as this may sound to you, I do believe that he is suffering from a mental illness of some sort.

What that is, Alzheimer's, a variance of bipolar, something else, I have no idea. Wait, he said that about the headmaster? About the headmaster for wanting to do a... Oh my God. Wow. I didn't have time to read all of this. Don't take the Lord's name in vain, please.

Oh my gosh. Oh my Jesus fucking Christ. Oh my Jesus. Wow. That's really... I didn't have time to read all of that. And that is even more shocking than I imagined. In one incident described in the headmaster's complaint,

Sparks allegedly attributed the school's dearth of black students to the fact that they are, quote, too poor and can't do the academic work. Yes. I'm so glad I never saw the notebook. I know, me too. I feel actually like it's a real point of pride now. That's my new personality. People are like, I was never into Game of Thrones anyway.

Right. Now I'm like, I'm yeah i'll be like this is your king wow that's really crazy when the headmaster arranged a school trip to washington dc to celebrate the 50th anniversary of mlk's i have a dream speech uh and talk to students about the school's diversity problems the board of trustees allegedly responded with anger calling his efforts provocative that speech is provocative the i have a dream yes too edgy uh i'm sorry wait can nicholas barks get the death penalty for this seriously provocative yes yeah about unity like there those if you want to talk about Judeo Christian values, I guess distill them down to like the non-destructive parts of the parts that are manipulated in order to justify people's hate.

I think that is not, whatever. I don't even know why he pulled me in now. When the headmaster appeared in an event with the president of the local NAACP chapter, Sparks allegedly confronted him claiming the public association brought disrepute to epiphany, the name of the school. Disrepute for appearing with the NAACP head.

This dude is just the fucking worst human being. You kind of have to read the emails because they're just so... They just sum up his worldview perfectly. Yeah, and he's such a bitch about it, too. He's just so mean and like suffocating. He's like, okay, so I love that you came to me with this problem. But then he'll like very passive aggressive. He'll be like, so here's what we want to do.

First, you're going to go to every member of your staff and everybody who has worked at our school and apologize to them one by one. Second, literally saying this to the headmaster, just like... Is the headmaster still at the school? No, no, no. He's suing them now because they've... Oh, and is this part of the discovery? Yes, this is discovery. Has Nicholas Sparks been

in the news before for any related behavior to this? No. This is so... I didn't even know he started, because it feels so extreme that it's like, how did he not have a reputation for being like this? I'm sure it is, he's kind of surrounded by the sort of people who think this is normal behavior. Right. You know, reading the emails, you get the sense that he has no idea

that this is just behavior that the people around him are like, yeah, of course you're going to write that email. Right. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I think he's mentally ill too. Right. I think, you know, honestly, I don't know if it's Alzheimer's. I think it's some form of bipolar.

Yes. Am I qualified to speak on that? No. Right. But I've hated my heart. Wow. Yelzo told him that the previous headmaster, we've had other gay students, and the previous headmaster kept it quiet. Oh, my God.

And the students were probably grateful for that. So, Nicholas Sparks. We need to call our senators, and we need to get advertisers to stop advertising in his books. Yeah. You said it. What's the last book he wrote? Can you just tell me? He's written so many books.

Oh, so he's prolific. Dude. He's like Grisham. He's made Oh, so he's prolific. Dude. He's like Grisham. He's made three quarters of a billion dollars at the box office. His movies have. What else did he do? Like a walk to remember, a walk in the clouds. A lot of walks.

A lot of walks. Christopher Walken. Wait, did he also do that like John- Notebook, The Wedding. Message in a bottle. Walk to remember. The rescue. Bend in the road. Nights in Rodanthe.

Oh my God. I mean, I'll give it up to him. Nights in Rodanthe. I mean, come on now. Dear John. I didn't know he. Dear John, that's what I was thinking about. The choice. The lucky one.

The last song. Safe haven. The best of me. The longest ride. See me. Two by two. Every breath. Oh my God.

I didn't know that a walk to remember was him. That's actually really disappointing. And then like nonfiction. Wakini. A Lakota Journey to Happiness and Self-Understanding. Fuck off. Wow. Wow. That's so much information. I know.

What an asshole. Thank God these are coming to light, though. I hate when you know that people have been able to get away with something like that just being fucking awful people and making so many millions of dollars yes anyways he will continue to be a millionaire surrounded by uh adoring weird christians and his weird christian community not all christians are weird. Just ones that love the notebook. Right. So let's talk about Jessica Biel. This was... I was like, why is this such a thing? And I guess it's because she's...

Wait, why is what such a thing? She's allowed to say whatever she wants, guys. Look, she's allowed to have a difference of opinion. I did see that take on Twitter. Even if that opinion means putting other children at risk because of your decisions. But I guess she is the biggest anti-vaxxer celebrity, right?

Bigger than Jenny McCarthy. Right, she's bigger than Jenny McCarthy, who was the biggest prior to this. So that means Justin Timberlake. Okay, so I guess we should explain what happened. Right. Okay, sorry. Jessica Biel is Jessica Beal. Jessica Peel. Sorry, guys.

I'm just very upset. Jessica Peel has appealed to the anti-vaxxers. She does not believe. It was going off yesterday on the internet that she's an anti-vaxxer. As the kids say, it was going off on the internet that she was an anti-vaxxer. As the kids say, it was going off on the internet that she was an anti-vaxxer. Then she came out and clarified that she was only supporting a bill, Senate Bill 276, which she claims would prevent people like her, quote, dearest friends from opting out of vaccines because their child has a medical condition that warrants an exemption. Some of my best friends are anti-vaxxers. Right.

But not me. The way she described it was a complete mischaracterization of the bill. The bill is designed to make it easier for people to opt out of vaccinating their children. It is currently possible for anybody whose child has a medical condition that warrants an exemption to get out of giving their kids vaccines. Like doctors aren't allowed to hurt your children with vaccines. People were giving like excuses that weren't real excuses, right? They were like, my son can't be vaccinated because he is tired.

Right. Exactly. Because his chakras are off. Yeah. He's got like a bad vibe around him. Well, he missed his colloidal silver intake, so I don't know what I'm going to do. I mean, yeah, because the bill

was about ending the loophole about these medical exemptions because that's been the way a lot of parents have been getting around mandatory vaccinations. Right. But you can still have a real medical exemption. Exactly. But there's just been an industry of these doctors who were like, what do you need? You need a medical exemption so you don't have to vaccinate your kids?

Right, they're like weed doctors. There was. And some California communities had like the lowest rate of vaccination. You need 94% to have herd immunity. And they were like 90% in kindergartens and California public schools. Yeah. And so they created a law that basically said you needed a medical exemption. You couldn't just be a conscientious objector to vaccinations.

And that got it up to herd immunity levels. It was at 95.1 very recently. And this bill that she's supporting would make it easier for them to opt out again so that we could get it back down. And she's also against the one that is closing the loophole. Like she's like, I don't like that one, but I like this one. This is meant to counteract that. Right. And again, like, let's not let's completely ignore the fucking health epidemic crisis that is happening because of all these kids not being vaccinated.

Right. Ignore that. Right. Because, oh, fine. I guess that doesn't equate into anything. Or the risk of these kids, you know, getting someone sick. Maybe an adult who has a suppressed immune system.

There's all these other... Her whole thing was like, some kids are too fragile to get vaccinations. And it's like, oh, but you don't think that some kids are too fragile to get measles? And then die from that. And then die from measles? I mean, I actually don't really that some kids are too fragile to get measles? Right. And then die from that. And then die from measles? Right.

It's real. I mean, I actually don't really know what it's been like here, but in New York, like, there was just, like, a huge measles outbreak in Williamsburg. Like, people, they were, like, telling people, like, go get vaccinated. I had to, like, text my mom and be like, did I have a measles vaccine? Yeah. She was like, are you fucking kidding me? Of course you did.

And I was like, I don't know. I wasn't sure. Was it, like, erad you did. And I was like, I don't know. I wasn't sure. Was it like eradicated by the time I was born? I don't know what I'm vaccinated for. But it's crazy. It's happening. And just to know that the whole movement is born out of a lie. Right.

That initial paper that was written where they said the MMR vaccine was like just very, just a fucking whack dubious paper. When also not finding out that the man who wrote that was like heavily invested in an alternative vaccine. So he's trying to take down the MMR one to be like, also, you know, I might have,

I might have this alt one you might want to check out. Also whack dubious would be a good name for a nineties rapper. Yeah. Well, there's funk dubious. Right. And there's whack dude. That's the upside down version of funk, there's Funk Dubious. Right. And there's Whack. Dude, that's the- Whack Dubious.

The upside down version of Funk Dubious is Whack Dubious. Whack Dubious. When are we going to replace them things? Hey, it's your boy Whack Dubious. Hey, when are we going to replace them things? The anti-vaxxer, early 90s rapper. Replace them things with fun juice that I just created. Wait, did she say-

I saw one thing that said that she said that they hadn't vaccinated their kids, but then I feel like I didn't see that anywhere else. Did she say that? So in 2015, you said, the report came out that they were not planning on vaccinating their kids. I can't believe.

And her explanation is so lame because immediately Twitter just went, what the fuck, Beale? What are you doing? And also Timberlake, hello. Yes. Listen, I forget this person, the father. Let me show you a few things.

Yeah. Let me show you. About vaccines. It's going to be measles. I am not. This is what Jessica Beal said in her Instagram post because everyone was outraged. She said, quote, I am not against vaccinations. I support children getting vaccinations. And I also support families having the right to make educated medical decisions for their

children alongside their physicians. I fucking hate both sides. It. Yes. Let me just both sides. It. Yes. The letting parents make medical decisions is the dumbest fucking thing.

It's like, oh, are they doctors? Right. We will. If they're doctors. Yes. Right. Yeah. If the parents are doctors, then absolute. we will if they're doctors. Yes, they should be able to.

if the parents are doctors in absolute, unless they're like bad doctors. Exactly. Right. huh. Yeah. Let's move on

to something fun. Okay. Do we have something fun? Yes. The sinner. Yeah, the sinner. Dude,

that song. No, I just wanted to talk, because we didn't get to talk about Justin Bieber and Tom Cruise. yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so we didn't get to talk about Justin Bieber. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so we talked earlier this week how Bieber, we don't know why,

he was basically saying like, fight me, coward. Dana White set it up. I'm hitting you up in the octagon. And everyone was like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude? This man, and we said it here, we're like, this man will beat the shit out of you.

Yeah, you'll die. And you know, credit to Justin Bieber, because he must have come out of his fucking dab high or something because he was caught by TMZ. They're like, hey, what the, like they were actually like, what did you mean? Like, were you serious? And his answer, quote, nah, I was just playing.

The story is that it was just on my mind. It was just a random tweet. I do that sometimes, but I'm pretty sure Tom- I'm hilarious, haven't my friends told you? And then he goes on sometimes but i'm pretty sure i'm hilarious i haven't my friends told you and then he goes on but i'm pretty sure tom would i think he would he would probably whoop my ass i'd have to get into shape yeah i'm really skinny right now i think he'd probably be out of my weight class he's big you know he's got that dad strength he's a dad right tom Cruise a famously only one biological child yeah exactly I'm like I think well isn't Bieber is he short too do we know because I was Tom

Cruise like five seven or something right yeah it's so it says a lot about like branding that if Justin Bieber did have the reputation of being like funny and a funny tweeter like you'd see that tweet and be like oh that is like kind of funny but instead because his his personality is like the opposite of that everyone was like this is earnest he wants to fight Tom Cruise right yeah I mean it's like anytime somebody who's not funny says something insane and everyone's like what the fuck and then they're like, oh, I was kidding. And you're just like, but you don't have a sense of humor. Exactly.

It really reminded me of Amanda Bynes tweeting that she wanted Drake to murder her vagina. Yeah. Which obviously she was going through some serious mental illness. But just a tweet coming out from somewhere deep in a celebrity's psyche where you're like, what is going on with them? Bieber's got fighter fantasies. I want Drake to fight Amanda Bynes' vagina in the octagon.

Right. Dana White set it up. Set it up. Coward. Drake, fight her vagina for the pride of the North. And at the time of this recording, the Raptors could be NBA champions. We don't know.

Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. We just don't know. Justin Bieber's height is, according to Google, 5'9", but that is, the height of celebrities is a fact that you cannot trust.

It's the one fact that you can't trust about the internet. You can't find reliable information about celebrities' height. Especially with male celebrities, whatever you think their height is, subtract eight inches. Really? Honestly. And women, it's actually subtract three feet.

Right. Every single actress, the internet's like, she's five foot seven. She's five foot seven. You meet them in person, two foot one. Two foot one? Oh my goodness. Two foot one, yep. That is so short.

Cardi B's three nine? Wow. Wow. Wow my goodness. Yep. That is so short. Cardi B's three nine? Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh my God. Woo. Okay.

Just had to get that drop in there. Got to. I mean, so yeah. I mean, you know, peace and blessings to Justin Bieber. Peace and blessings. But he really would get just fucked up. Yeah. He doesn't have like the most aggression I've seen from him is like playing soccer.

Right. With like the wind of a stoner. Yeah. Right. Tom Cruise has been in his physical prime for like 30 years. 70 years. 70 years. And he's actually not even approached the peak yet.

I've seen him in person and he doesn't walk up steps. He just like hovers up them. He's just like on another plane physically and spiritually. When I met Nicole Kidman, yo, she moves the same way. Really? Yeah, yeah. And I think it's also, she's just like stunning in person

but her energy, like I thought I could have swore she wasn't even walking. Right. I thought she like was on a hoverboard or some shit. She's a goddess. Spike Lee tracking shots all around. I was like, what? What the fuck?

And she is true to form. She's a solid 5'10". Yeah, yeah. And then she had heels on and you're like, whoo, yes. Yeah. Have you seen Will Smith in person? No.

This is the one that I've... People... Is he short? He was shorter than I expected I thought he was like 6'1 he's not 6 feet tall? no I think that actors

who are 6 feet or more actually like on film look gigantic it's impossible to fit them like on the camera you have to embed

a new camera or they just sit yeah they're always sitting we've created a chair that the actor sits in and it mimics the hip movement of walk of bipedal motion that's how i get a lot of those shots i always think of like tim simons on veep who like is tall but not like that tall like i met him in person and i was like

you're an average he's like six two but like yeah probably i mean he might be like six four i don't know he's like he doesn't look i don't know six four six i don't know. He doesn't look super tall. I don't know if 6'4". I don't know. He's like 6'2", like 7'8". But like the fact that Veep, his character became all about them being like, you're a freak of nature. Yeah, because on camera,

he looks like the biggest man alive. Yeah. Love. Well, shit. Rachel, this has been so much fun. I've had a blast. A blast.

Someone's been to Europe. That's how we say it in Barcelona. Oh, God. I'll have a baja blast. Dame un baja blast. A smirnoff ice. Smirnoff ice. Rachel, where can people find you?

Where can't they find me? One of the best Twitter follows around, so listen up motherfuckers. One of the best. Wow, thank you so much for saying that. I am on Twitter as Rachel Winitsky. I'm the only one, I think. And also, honestly,

Instagram, but you're not going to find that much interesting stuff on there. You create great short films. Yeah, I'm sort of a filmmaker. Yeah, sort of. Yeah. No. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

OK, the tweet I want to read is something that Rachel Syme tweeted, who is someone I don't know personally, but we follow each other on Twitter, and I'm a big fan of her writing. And she tweeted, look, I'm glad that women have made progress and also I'm really bummed that it's less possible now to check out of life for a month due to, quote, exhaustion when you absolutely must do nothing but walk around the grass of a large estate in a linen nightgown. This just really got me. I was like, I understand exactly what you're talking about. Yes. I want to grow my hair out to my waist. Just have it like slightly like off your head, like unkempt.

You know, like in old times, you know, in the olden times. I remember old times. Where women would like always wear their hair pinned pinned back but then they'd unpin it and secretly it was nine feet long they'd put on a linen nightgown just wander around in a state kind of staring at a pond that gave me very unrealistic expectations

about women's hair I watch too much Avonlea on the Disney channel so I just love that I think she's great on Twitter. And also her writing and her profiles that she does are amazing. She just did one on Ani DeFranco that was life changing. Oh, nice. Yeah, amazing.

Miles, where can people find you? And what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Okay. First, you can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Now, a tweet that I like. There's a couple. One is from Tony Posnanski. At Tony Posnanski.

Tony Pos? Possible replacements for Sarah Sanders. Tommy Lahren. Scott Baio. A bedazzled swastika. A gallon Ziploc bag full of dog shit. The curly hair gun girl in the beige leotard. Oh, God.

A MAGA hat full of dildos. Kid Rock, diamond, silk, a Bible signed by Trump. Next, John Daly, at John Daly. I'd like to make a public announcement. I'm a dumb, stupid idiot who lives in my own horrible butthole. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thank you so, so much.

I don't know why. That's just a tweet from him. My own horrible butthole. My own horrible butthole. My own horrible butthole. Also a good name for your stand-up album. My own horrible butthole. Hey, can we replace these? What was the other thing? Hey, can we replace them things?

Them things. Get me a new butthole. Hey, man, can we replace them things? Hey, look at my nipples, guys. What the fuck? Can we replace them things? Kat Damon tweeted, Picture this.

I'm a bag of chips. Put me to your lips. I am crisp. I will leave you with some stain. Fingertips. Run the Jewels voice. Yeah. There are so many good tweets about Jessica Biel.

Okay. Sean Clemens tweeted, every news outlet is torn between the opinions of the entire medical community and the third lead of I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry tough spot both clearly valid but I certainly get why most headlines lean slightly toward Tenley from Summer Catch

for now stay tuned and Graham Teckler tweeted roommate you need to do the dishes me just started Mad Men what makes a sink a sink Graham Techler tweeted, roommate, you need to do the dishes. Me, just started Mad Men. What makes a sink a sink? Care?

Attention? No. Puts out cigarette. Experience. Reveals poster that says, the dishes. Let's just leave them like that. That tweet, I know Graham, and that tweet made me laugh so hard this morning and i i would like to take credit for spreading it okay i'm gonna i'm i'm gonna step up and say that it is my i it is your invented graham okay techler i'm responsible for his celebrity and that tweet made

me laugh so hard this morning what was that like when you came up with that tweet? Well, I built Graham from the ground up using body parts that I found in a cemetery. Oh, great. Yeah. Oh, yeah,

and then Louis Vertel tweeted, I love that coming out for straight white people is believing something stupid. Jessica Biel comes out as anti-vaxxer. What? It's pride.

It is pride month. Yeah, it is. And she is taking pride. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist

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that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what's that going to be gonna be today yes the song we're going out on cashmere stage band uh called all praises just a band with some nice brass instruments full band rocking wait the band is called cashmere brass band cashmere stage band cashmere stage yes and the song is called all praises. Got it. Yes. So, you know, just ride this into your weekend.

Just toot your own horn. Yeah, guys. Toot your own horn this weekend. Fly your flag. Toot your own horn. And don't forget to replace them things. Yeah. And like I always said, hey, can we replace them things?

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Just for the record, I want everyone to know that. I just wanted to make it sound like I was good at high fives. The crazy thing is, I think you stomped your foot when you did the hand effect. It was like a hootenanny in here. That's going to do it. We will be back next week for more Daily Psych. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. Thank you. I'm not going to lie. 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearths the plot to murder

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