The Daily Zeitgeist - Kelly's Revisionist History, A Conspiracy Theory About Hitler 11.2.17

Episode Date: November 2, 2017

In episode 19, Jack & Miles are joined by 'Yo, Is This Racist's' Andrew Ti to discuss John Kelly's views on Robert E. Lee, the terrorist attack in Manhattan, Trump's handling of Puerto Rico, a theory that Hitler escaped to Colombia, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 4, Episode 4 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a.k.a. the White Bashing Cuck Fest, according to one of our reviews. Hey! Ayo! It is November the 2nd 2017 my name is jack o'brien aka potatoes o'brien and i'm joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray hello and i just want to tell all

my people out there i love you no matter what your race creed or color and that's our guest he is the host of one of my favorite podcasts that Miles and I had the pleasure of guesting on very recently. I think it's up as of yesterday. He is Andrew T. And the show is Yo, Is This Racist? What up, Andrew? What's up? There he is. He's also one of our best guests that we've had so far on this show. He is a returning guest. Yeah.

Nailed it the first time. I mean, for you, what's it like being on season one and now being on season four? Oh, my God. The arc of the amount you guys have grown and changed, I think, is the real thing. Yes. The Miles character really turned into into something i guess it was very thin at the top but you know like my hair now it feels real right that inner conflict uh we won't say yeah well look that'll be revealed in season six cliffhanger you guys will know uh andrew

what's something you've searched in the not too distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being uh so listeners might remember last time i was on i had turned off uh my search history like tracking on google yes we got a lot of a lot of flack about that did you really no that is literally how full of myself i am like well of course that was the thing that really made a splash um and as the intro was starting i realized i hadn't turned it back on well good so you're still staying still still saying off the grid um the craziest thing though the that i've been watching on youtube that i i even subscribe to so this is just a thing that is part of my media diet now there's this fucking weird danish guy that

it's like a survivalist who lives in like the middle of nowhere in russia whoa and he just does these videos that are awesome does he do like like ancient survival skills no they're like like he walks around with an ak at all times and it's just like like but it's like he's just like a camping guy like you know like the other weird survivalist shit i like, but it's like, he's just like a camping guy. Like, you know, like the other weird survivalist shit I was watching. But he's like, he's this dude. He's, I think I have this new category of YouTube, which is I'm realizing most categories of dudes that I'm interested in exactly one thing that they're knowledgeable about and like thoroughly uninterested in everything else they would have to say i was like oh man whatever this guy thinks about global politics the world black people i'm positive i don't want to know

um well that's i like that that's a dark insinuation you're probably a fine person mr survival russia what what is his, or how can people find him? Just Survival Russia. Survival Russia. He's just this jolly Danish dude, like, in the middle, like, making humongous... Like, the last video I watched of his, he was really stressed out because there was a big spruce tree that fell. And he's like, how am I going to deal with this spruce? Wow.

Problems we will never experience. Anyway, that's what I got. What's overrated? Overrated. Preparation. Yeah. I made a bunch of attempts at coming up with a funny one, and I was like, fuck it. I'm going to wing it.

I'm going to wing it because I got nothing. I couldn't come up with anything funny. You know what? Having said that, I'm going to undercut myself right now. I am happy with my underrated. What is your underrated? Oh, you know what? But this also cuts to the preparation thing.

Because we had discussed before we started recording, not talking about this potentially, but I'm going to fuck up all y'all's plans right now and say, potentially, but I'm going to fuck up all y'all's plans right now and say my underrated thing is it's not as bad as you think being two blocks from a World Series game. Because I was really stressed out. I was like, my fucking neighborhood is going to be like a mess. It's going to be a nightmare. And it has been not that bad. You live right next to Dodger Stadium. Pretty close. Yeah. Like, I was joking about this, and this is, I'm sure there's some fucked up antecedent to this train of thought. But I was like, if there's like a riot of some kind, you know, I'm not in prime car burning territory. Right. But I'm in car burning territory.

At least your instagram will be lit yeah exactly shit is about to get uh literally lit yeah uh yeah anyways it's not been that bad everyone ever i think it's because tickets are so expensive that like people are like yo i'm here to see fucking baseball like i need to see every second of this baseball yeah people are serious about this yeah i mean serious the i think like the seats down in the like stadium club like 12 grand a pop yeah can you imagine not doing that good spending over presumably i guess it's not for these people but like multiple months of rent on a baseball game i don't i don't even pay my rent i'm like delinquent on that shit. And it's really,

it's some shit where I was just like, cause the only thing I like about baseball is about going to a baseball game is not paying attention to the baseball game. And I wouldn't be able to not pay attention. Yeah. Not for them. I didn't fucking do that. Start the wave during like,

yeah, really tense inning. Okay. What's everyone's problem man all i'm doing at a baseball game is trying to see if the people i'm there with will be grossed out if i have another hot dog right then no i'm just like if you have to like wait an inning every time i go every time i go there uh sometimes we have the pleasure of going into the luxury state or the lexus Union Club where all the food is free.

Yeah. And I will, man, I will load up on the dogs. Just embarrass yourself. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I'm there for the hot dogs. I can gross you out.

Next time, we'll go to a baseball game. We should do a show, yeah. You will be shocked. Yeah. I promise you. I like that. Before we get into the stories, we like to talk about what is the daily zeitgeist. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas out there changing the world, whether we're paying attention or not.

We talk about politics, the president, news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids. And it's an interesting time in the zeitgeist where I like to say we're waking up from the nightmare of history is how I think about it. And it seems like more that is happening more and more recently. The stuff that was like deemed OK in the past, we're suddenly looking at with new eyes and saying, holy shit, Manhattan is about a pedophile. And, you know, winking about the, quote, casting couch isn't all right. That is rape. I think we're still in the process and other things. I was listening to The Gist, another daily podcast from Slate,

and he was talking about how Dr. Seuss is somewhat racist and made me remember something we talked about back at Cracked, that Disney's entire empire is built around a central iconic character who is designed based on a minstrel cartoon. Like from the white gloves and black skin to the big mouth and white eyes. Mickey Mouse is based on a minstrel cartoon uh and it also gets worse from there right it gets worse before it gets better yeah which i don't know that's not what a mouse looks like that's what racial cartoons at the time were looked like so uh that's why we do what we do the zeitgeist matters we're at a time of change and progress in some areas and regress in other areas. And we're trying to capture the whole big ball of it in 45 minutes each day.

So I should get to the stories then. We're going to start out with John Kelly's interview on Fox News from a few nights back in which he defended Robert E. Lee, a historical monster. And this is kind of part of an overall propaganda campaign to make Robert E. Lee seem like an OK person. So he's not alone in believing this. But let's hear that quote. This was supposed to be like a softball interview that made him seem good. I would tell you that Robert E. Lee was an honorable man.

He was a man that gave up gave up his country to fight for his state, which in 150 years ago was more important than country. It was always loyalty to state first back in those days. ago was more important than country it was always loyalty to state first back in those days now where it's different today but the the lack of an ability to compromise led to the civil war and men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand. Yeah. So, interesting. That's a take. That's certainly a take.

Yeah, ignoring all the literal compromises that happened before the outbreak of the Civil War, like the Compromise of 1850 or the Three-Fifths Compromise. Right. A lot of compromise. It happened because of a failure to continue compromising, I guess, is his point. I guess first is, what is the compromise that we should have done to keep the Civil War from happening? Right. Yeah. It is a really strange way of putting that.

I mean... I have no idea. I mean, he's advocating for the expansion of slavery, right? Because that was one of the things even Abraham Lincoln talked about because they're trying to expand like slavery to like U.S. territories and Cuba and protect the right for people to have slavery in those areas. I mean, I think it's like this is like on some I mean, as we all know, noted negotiator Donald J. Trump. This is just some like it's like, oh, OK, well, what's the negotiating position, man? Like, what is the what is your opening salvo, it's like, oh, okay, well, what's the negotiating position, man? Like, what is your opening salvo? Or what's, like, the salvo?

Like, what do you want, then? What is the compromise? It's, like, so weirdly, like, cowardly to just be like, wink. Right. Yeah. Like, just fucking say it. Right. It was a failure to compromise.

So calling it a failure is very strange. But the really outright offensive, like no possible way to positively interpret that is this idea that Robert E. Lee was an honorable man. He is this is actually part of a 150 year old propaganda campaign designed to basically erase slavery as the cause of the war and whitewash the Confederate cause. But I think I had learned this myself, that Lee was just an honorable guy caught up in a conflict because he couldn't take up arms against Virginia. And so he, like, even though he hated slavery, he wanted to, you know, he couldn't fight his own, like, neighbors and his own family. And so he decided to, like, regretfully joined the Confederate side. And that's just not true at all. He was like a brutal slave owner who broke up slave families on his property and like was known to whip his slaves and then, you know, put briny water like salt on their wounds. He was just like a monster, like a historical monster that in the aftermath of the Civil War, white supremacists have used him as a person to sort of lionize so that people could,

you know, have something to rally around and so that white supremacists sort of had a figurehead. Well, even as a general, right, you know, he was terrible. Like he believed black POWs didn't deserve humane treatment and would even use them as human shields. So there's like, even as a military person, you think John Kelly would be like, hey, that's like a whack ass, even military strategy. But even then, all these people who try and paint the civil war for anything other than it is it's because they're hiding the fact that they actually think that that black people aren't on equal

footing as white people that they don't actually believe in racial equality that's sort of the underpinnings of all this yeah and well and that the the everything that has pushed for equality is a direct at the expense of white people, white southern people. Well, that was the fear even in the antebellum period is like if you free these black slaves, they will they will dominate white culture and they will oppress us. Yeah. And you can even see that now. Like we talked about this with that on your show when we were talking about that poll that came out. Yeah, yo, is this racist? Check that episode out. It's wonderful. That there were like there is this growing sentiment amongst white people that they do feel that they are being victims of some form of racial oppression.

Yeah. Right. When he says that, you know, we're putting today's standards on the past, it implies basically that only white slaveholding opinions mattered at that time, because it's not like the people who were slaves didn't know that slavery was evil. South Carolina was majority black back in 1860. Mississippi was majority black back in 1860. They knew in their own time that slavery was wrong. Well, and also there was a name for these people at the time. Like the fact that there were people called abolitionists mean that by definition there were people at the time that knew that this was wrong right like they have a name yeah it's like john brown didn't think you know like if you asked john brown what he thought about fucking robert e lee he'd be like yeah he's a racist scumbag right right the other thing is you know when he tries to say this uh argument that he that robert e lee

is noble because he was fighting for his state or whatever. And like a lot of people do use this like states rights argument, like all the way back there. But let's be real. They were loving federal power and oversight when it was protecting slavery. And even like with like the Fugitive Slave Act that like gave federal marshals the power to just take any black person that they thought was an escaped slave or even a person who may not have been in bondage back to the South for slavery. They were loving that. So it's all very relative, right, to whatever – even at the time, there are sort of these contradictory arguments that are being made.

I feel like there's this thing – like, there's the obvious, like, contradiction that's based on just, like, the desire for political power and maintaining fucking racist hegemony but there is also the the contradiction internally for these people who are like well we're not racist yeah like but why do they care like it's a little bit the same as like holocaust deniers like neo-nazi holocaust deniers it's like why do you why are you making the argument that there wasn't a holocaust deniers like neo-nazi holocaust deniers it's like why do you why are you making the argument that there wasn't a holocaust right if your sense you're a neo-nazi like i actually don't get what they're ashamed of or i get i get what they're ashamed of but i don't get why they're ashamed i think because that's how flawed the logic is yeah like if you want to if if you're

going that far to be a neo-nazi thatNazi, inherently you must feel that there is some shame because you want to deny that the Holocaust even happened. Yeah. You mean, but if they're such, like, brutal people to begin with, then why are they bothering with the justification? Yeah, like, there are neo-Nazis who think that, you know, we should exterminate, whatever, let's say Jews now. Right. know we should exterminate whatever let's say jews now right so why would they be ashamed of a in their mind hypothetical previous like holocaust yeah it's just very it's because they have wives that they have to like win arguments with i guess yeah they're thinking i don't know like the people that that are attempting to essentially like whitewash the the the history of the confederacy

like i actually don't understand why there's they lean so hard on states rights as opposed to just saying yeah we like slavery right we think white people are superior yeah yeah there was a there was a study i think recently too that showed 20 of trump supporters believed slavery shouldn't have never have ended yeah which is surprising yeah yeah i think it's a matter of uh knowing that your beliefs won't uh look good in certain company and even like knowing that yeah you have a family you have kids who you have to like you know talk in front of and like are you going to be willing to you know be like, we're the we're the bad guys of history, son. So one fact from Ta-Nehisi Coates' response to this, which is an amazing Twitter thread.

I'm not usually a huge fan of when I see the like one of 30 next to someone's tweet. But this was one of the great Twitter rants with like sourcing and stuff. one of the great Twitter rants with like sourcing and stuff. And he pointed out that the Confederate army actually went into Northern States and kidnapped free black men and, you know, sent them back down to the South to be slaves. Yeah. That was in Pennsylvania,

right? Yeah. Pennsylvania. And it was like basically every part of the Confederate Army did that under the supervision of their superior officers. So it was like his it was an institutional policy, not just that, like, hey, don't mess with our slavery. It was like we want to bring slavery everywhere. I think that like slavery should – and there's also like Coates points out that like you don't have to sit in a Harvard history seminar to understand, but you just have to actually read what the people who started the Civil War actually said. And like one of them wrote in like one of the declarations was like, our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery, the greatest material interest in the world. And then another one was like, I want Cuba.

And I know that sooner or later we must have it. And talks about a couple of Mexican states that he wants. And then he says, I want them all for the same reason, for the planting and spreading of slavery. It's like, well, that's pretty clear to cut, guys. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah.

I think this all this these Kelly remarks all kind of just show you that this sort of mentality, like what sort of the genesis point of people who are who want to glamorize or make the Confederate cause noble. Essentially, they are all believers that i think that they're not actually interested in racial equality at all because if you're going to defend what yeah i think i mean that's that's and that's why you and it's easy to see now like why these certain uh images are are synonymous with white supremacists and things like that like imagine if any of those fucking confederate statues had i don't know for instance direct quotes from any of the people that they had underneath. Yeah. Right.

Or let's just pitch this out, like a big neon word bubble over the racist ass head of Robert E. Lee. Yeah, that could be a good subversive art project for some people. I like it. That's how we solve this. And also just make General Kelly like read a modicum of history. Well, but it's also got to be a thing right where he's like he's repeating white supremacist arguments the same way everyone in the Trump administration. And also, in many ways, the way every Republican kind of has acted in a lot of ways. A lot of the times like it's like, oh, racism is wrong. Like there's but there's a lot of ways a lot of the times like it's like oh racism is wrong like

there's but there's a lot of sides hey but let's get these voter id laws yeah that really only affect one demographic i mean yeah there's dog whistle city yeah like i none of this is new none of this scholarship is new like it's like you know 200 years of the same tired ass racist arguments so like like we all were like oh kelly's the fucking adult kelly's the adult in the room and it's like i mean is he nope no yeah yeah no i think we can officially call him the artist formerly known as the good one uh because he is uh he is a bad guy we have officially learned that and he can change his name rather than even that just to a Confederate flag symbol.

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Yeah, his buddy Chuck Schumer. He was like, this is a Chuck Schumer beauty. And I believe that vetting program predates. That's a George H.W. Bush. Yeah, that was a lie. Yeah. Another lie. Yeah, well, could he spend?

Good job, man. Good job, Trump. Facts are fucked up, man, if they don't help you. Right. aftermath of the mass shooting in Las Vegas, Fox News and Sarah Sanders both said that, you know, they didn't think that this was any time to politicize the tragedy when people started asking about gun control. But yeah, there seemed to be a double standard because yesterday when it was a brown person uh doing the attack it was immediately a uh a political issue i mean i guess one thing i

do have to point out is interesting because like the argument of not politicizing it works for both sides because you'll see also to uh like bill de blasio his first thing was like it's too like we should not be politicizing this. And it's kind of the same thing, not to say that one's right or wrong, but it just shows you the dynamic of just our political system. Because if it's if it's a white person shooting people, then it's a gun control debate. And if it's a brown person supposedly committing some kind of extremist terrorism, it's an immigration thing. And I found myself kind of – it was odd. The remarks were almost exactly the same depending on which side of it you're on.

Yeah, there is sort of that internal – I mean this is the most base part of me. But every time there's an emergency or like an attack of some kind, I mean part of me is just like please don't let – like please let it be a white person. Right. And, you know, because it's like a complex stew of many awful things. But like part of me is like because if it's a brown person or a black person, that will cause further problems for minorities. Right. That only feeds whatever racial narrative. But also there's definitely a part of me that's like I want to have my biases confirmed.

You know what I mean? Right. So, you know, and everyone does do that. There is a thing where it's like it's not about not politicizing it when a brown person does something. But maybe there's a way to talk about it in terms of like, hey, this doesn't say anything about Islam. Right. Or anything more about Islam than it does about Christianity or any other religion. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Well, because that's what it is. As soon as it happens, it's like they're using that as evidence to create this perception of Muslims being people who should not be in this country. Yeah. I mean that was George W. Bush's first response after 9-11 or one of his first responses was to say that this has nothing to do with the Muslim faith. It was just a thing about you know bad bad actors right but then he then proceeded like that was a time when when the the the rhetoric and the policy was hugely disconnected because then we went into a war that was sold as a war on you know in some quarters as a war on islam you know, New Crusade type of deal. I mean, and the no-fly lists and things like that, which, you know, again, weren't improved under Obama and were, some of them started under Bill Clinton.

So it's not like necessarily an ideological thing. We continued to be very racist towards – I mean, we're being racist towards Arabs with a religion as a proxy. Right. Yeah. Which is how we've done it. Yeah. Forever. And that's the media too. I mean, we've completely poisoned ourselves with these storylines that people can hop into easier and

unfortunately like these are the these are kinds of stories that like the media loves too because it gets people in a frenzy yeah there's a part where it's like yeah obviously the media is complicit in creating an audience that wants these biases confirmed about the dangerousness of brown people and the valor of white people um but there's a part of me that's like when does when does that like kind of journalistic idea become you know or you know do we have a populace that's so fucked up that like it actually becomes unethical to like give the people what they want or the news they want. Right. Yeah. Like the local news vastly over represents crime, uh, by Brown people or non white people. Uh, and that's probably because, you know, the local news feeds on fear and white

people will be more scared of non white people. And so, yeah, it feeds, it's just capitalism working essentially. But I think, I think we, you know, we talked yesterday about how France has like media blackouts 44 hours before their polls close. Um, I think other countries are less sort of purely capitalistic about their media

and how media like works and they they understand because ad dollars run everything right your show will be off the air if advertisers you know are like hey we don't like this but the feedback loop is like yeah we also create a populist that is more scared of like brown black and brown people right because of the news so it's like is more scared of like brown black and brown people right because of the news so it's like why donald trump getting worse i assume yeah well donald trump is the perfect creation of the news he like yeah only watches news and then he only watches fox right right only fox but i mean i mean i think he secretly watches the other ones and of course yeah he's got to get mad about them. But, you know, he reacts to the news and, you know, acts as the as the news will, you know, want him to act or will like most freak out. Isn't that like a sociological phenomenon? What's it called? Like cruel and terrible world syndrome or whatever, where where you were people who watch the news too much, like it just poisons your worldview because of the media or whatever.

So, I mean, this also expands not just to his response to terror words are translated to deeds with the response to Puerto Rico. And the U.N. actually earlier this week just called America's response to Puerto Rico out. just called America's response to Puerto Rico out. They said, we, quote, can't fail to note the dissimilar urgency and priority given to the emergency response in Puerto Rico compared to U.S. states affected by hurricanes in recent months. That was a quote from Leilani Farha, who is a special rapporteur, special reporter on housing in the U.N. Oh, boy. Well, it's spelled weird. Oh.

But, yeah, roughly 70 percent of Puerto Rico remains without power. Still, more than a month after Hurricane Maria struck, roughly a third of the island is without fresh drinking water. I mean, the U.N. is shaming the Uaming the US government's response to this because it's so bad. And there were a group of nurses from America who went down there to Puerto Rico to help out with the disaster aid. And while they were there across the island, they sort of they put a little report together to let FEMA know just how bad the situation was, because clearly there are a lot of people who have not even, who haven't had much interaction with FEMA.

And they were saying there are things that are, like some of the problems that are still happening is there are people standing in line, four hours still, for food and water, with federal workers giving them paperwork instead of supplies. You have residents in soaked homes with no roofs where there is black mold spreading and people are getting increased respiratory problems? There are rural towns that have never gotten food and water supplies and yet have no running water or electricity. There's an outbreak of leptospirosis, it's like a bacterial disease that has already

claimed lives. And multiple communities do not have clean water. They're at risk for outbreak of waterborne illness epidemics. So these people are actually dying. And the other thing is, too, is it pads the numbers of what the actual death toll is for this hurricane. The official one was something around like 51 but a lot of people are saying because of the neglect and these like the abject conditions that people are living in after the fact is contributing to a lot more death that we're not actually saying like oh that's part of the hurricane yeah that's you know the hurricane response itself has led to arguably probably more destruction and death yeah well

it's like it's like this thing where like because it's harder to establish a direct line of causality, like, I mean, this is conducting violence on brown people. This is causing loss of life through neglect and incompetence and, you know, or competence, I guess. Like, incompetence is a weird thing where it's like, you know, incompetence at what? Right. Because I think they're very competent at what they want to be doing, which was not giving a shit. Sometimes. Well,

I mean, if you define what they want to be doing in the right way, I guess, is what I mean. Yeah. But yeah, even,

I guess even, you're right, even this, like, clumsy graft was pretty incompetently executed. Right. It's like a bummer,

man. Like, we laugh and shit because it's like, oh, man, they're so dumb or whatever. And meanwhile, like, people are straight up, like, suffering and terrible American people, man. And just because they don't live on the mainland and we've othered them because they live on an island and they also speak Spanish that we're doing this shit. And I mean, like, not we, the people in this room, but, like. Well like well i mean i think partially there is a thing where it's like we all need to take a little responsibility for that you know what i mean i mean one thing yeah it's all right it's

just it's easy to be like well they're doing this they're doing yeah they're doing this and i i find myself in this trap too but it's like you know like it or not fucking trump is our president and we are the part of the reason why this is an outrage is because this is in our name with our resources with our you know this is us right on nbc all right we're gonna go to a quick break with that and uh we'll be right back I've been thinking about you I want you back in my life it's too late for that I have a proposal for you

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Yay. which so in a weird detail of all the JFK files that were released, one of the memos was concerning an informant who was a former SS officer that was alleging that Hitler was alive and living in Columbia. And so according to this guy's version of events, Hitler wasn't even that secretive about it. He was living in a community with a bunch of other escaped Nazis who openly referred to him as Der Fuhrer and greeted him with a Nazi salute. And he was going by the name Adolf Schridlmayr,

And he was going by the name Adolf Schridlmayr, which suggests Hitler didn't want to change his first name like a stand-up comedian starring in a network sitcom. And the memo actually includes a photo of the source posing next to Hitler, and Hitler looks almost identical. So again, he he has the same mustache which you think you think you're trying to be incognito maybe that's his look yeah it'd be like if slash killed someone and then went on the run and despite being a fugitive still wore the top hat and carried a guitar and had the same hair yeah um but so uh jm uh McNabb, one of our writers, kind of went down a research hole into like how possible this is. And it's really weird. Like, so the way that we identified Hitler after he killed himself, apparently his body was. Allegedly.

Apparently his body was badly burnt. himself uh apparently his body was allegedly apparently his body was badly burnt uh and so they uh took his jaws uh from his body uh and they were given to a woman uh by the soviets uh and because they could count on they were like a woman won't get drunk and lose it um wait that's why they gave it to him yeah that Yeah, that was the reasoning they used. Apparently they needed to justify giving Hitler's jaws to a woman. Yeah, like, hey, have the lady hold that, or we'll get too fucked up and lose it. But so the way that they were identified was

they found someone who said they were the assistant to Hitler's personal dentist, and the assistant to Hitler's dentist was was like yep that's what hitler's bridge work looked like that's what hitler's jaw looked like because he had like a lot of like he didn't have a regular grill like there was a lot of bridge work done right that's that's the reason why they say like that's how this person could identify it but also at the same time like it's not like a unique situation if you have a lot of bridge work. Right.

And it's also the assistant to his dentist. Yeah, not even the dentist. Like, also probably a Nazi. Like, who's, I don't know. Yeah, the Nazi dental hygienist said. Right. If you really were, let's for a second believe this theory that it is, like, that's exactly what you do. They'd be like, look, fam, just be cool.

All you have to do is say, this is Hitler and be cool. And they're just going off of this guy's word. Like they have, I don't think really much else aside from this was like, yeah, I was, uh,

the, uh, assistant to the personal dentist. Like I have no actual dental training. Uh, I was just the assistant, but yeah, that's Hitler.

You learn on the job. You know, Hitler's jaw when you see it, apparently. So this. But, yeah, that's Hitler's – You learn on the job. That's Hitler's mouth. You know Hitler's jaw when you see it. Apparently – so this apparently is a conspiracy theory that the Soviets – we've talked in the past how a lot of the conspiracy theories that people believe to this day are things that were spread or reinforced by the KGB, like a bunch of JFK conspiracy theories, the government creating AIDS. And yeah, I think anything that shows any kind of discontent without regard to ideology, it's just like make them confused and make their populace dumb. Yeah, I'm not sure what the purpose of this was, but apparently nuclear winters, idea that the aftermath of a nuclear war would be a weird winter-like thing. It was also invented by the KGB. That's not true.

I still believed that. I'm still going to believe that. Until very recently. Wait, what is the current thinking? I don't know. We'll have to have a nuclear war to find out. I'm there dogs front row baby uh but anyways uh so the cia's conclusion was this person this was a quote fantasy um

but it's just interesting that our entire knowledge that hitler is dead i guess he would be dead by now of old age but our whole entire basis for the belief that he died in that bunker was just one dental hygienist's assistant um so yeah but that was ava brown in there right well yeah obviously okay probably we all know her we all know her job that is like the grimmest work fucking possible i know separating a burnt corpse's job right hey could you uh grab that jaw yeah i know people that don't like karen over there she'll uh she'll handle yeah she won't get drunk i know people that don't like bones in their chicken it's just too grim a reminder. So intense. Yeah. Oh, man.

So what do you think, Jack? You think... Is Hitler dead? Is this a... You willing to jump on board this conspiracy theory? No. No? No. I think it's just...

I believe that he... Like, they say narcissists are extremely susceptible to suicide, especially when their whole, like, narcissistic kind of world collapses. It seems like him killing himself is the logical conclusion to his story. So, I don't know.

I think one way I like to kind of approach conspiracy theories, too, is like, just imagine pulling this off. I just say, if you were pulling this off like if you i just say if you were pulling this off you would just be like this guy's a dentist if nothing else right you would say this guy's a dentist right right exactly it's a it's a fun one yeah i just like the idea of hitler's straight up sneaking out of berlin with his mustache still intact right and be like hey we

gotta get out of here right i mean look on the hand, if that is really Hitler, what a bold move. I can't imagine having that kind of confidence of like, well, the mustache stays. Yeah. Whatever the fuck else happens. It's my thing, you guys. Yeah. All right. This was fun.

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