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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 265 episode 2 of dirt daily's ike a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness oh yeah it's wednesday november 30th 2022 which of course means the last day of november right there's that for sure. 30 days, half November. Is that correct? I don't know. I don't know that like rhyme thing. I just kind of, I'm always like vibing out

which days have 30 and 31. And then I think the one that was catching. Yeah, I just vibe it. I'm like, I feel like this is one of those 30 months. You're always doing that. You're always vibing out the month. And also that's how I, you know, I'm able to excuse my late payments on my bills.

It's like, I'm sorry. I was vibing out the month. I didn't know it was the first two days ago. That's not me. But it's also stay home because you're well day. I don't know what that is. National personal space day. National moose day as in M-O-U-S-S-E.

National Mississippi day. National mason jar day. Okay. Shout out the hipsters. Remember that? Oh, yeah. We still have some leftover like most of our glasses in our house are still mason a mason jar is just one of those things

you feel bad throwing away too yeah yeah it's all just leftover from you know our canning period when the peaches are ripe yeah we're just like shit that we bought that came in a mason jar which yeah was a lot of stuff for a long time. And now, free cups. Even though you can recycle them, I just feel like, well, that's a jar. You know, that has use. But I have literally, there's a whole shelf in my kitchen. Because I remember in the beginning of the pandemic, like if you order alcohol sometimes, it'd be like, and that comes in a mason jar.

And I have two of those from my very expensive pandemic drinking. You save your yogurt tubs. We save our yogurt tubs and they just become our Tupperware. We had a lot of yogurt tubs. We have one country crock margarine tub. There you go. As any good American will, you must have your country crock tub. But no, not too many yogurt tubs.

Well, now that we've settled that we also said before we started recording that uh the plural of computer mouse is computer mice we correct us if we're wrong this is just we've stopped googling things and we just like put it out on the podcast and then yeah well after that sinbad thing the sinbad shazam thing so many people were hitting us up on twitter with like it's actually this plus keenan and kel yeah yeah all that sketch when he was on yeah that plus at the christy yamaguchi man came through with like a whole he dm'd me i think he really wanted to make sure this this this was like on the low it's just interesting that the math works across well we'll get into it in a moment let's get into it yeah let's get into it in a moment. Yeah, let's get into it. First, I have to introduce myself.

My name is, of course, Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Rise Up This Morning. Needing some hydration. Three Mountain Dews sit on my desktop singing sweet songs of calories pure and true. Saying, this is my Mountain of Dew. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. saying this is my mountain of do-oo-oo. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! This goes out to everybody who was coping during your Thanksgiving dinner.

Dead I am the one, racist as fuck, grandma. Sniffing for your trees, eating up all the cheese. Dead I am the sky, Christian Uncle Roy. While I slowly turn, he quotes Peter Cern. Dig through the kitchens and pass through. Fuck friends off to the garage for that coping blunt. Okay. Shout out to everybody who had to hit a coping blunt during Thanksgiving. You know it happens or christian uncle roy exactly christian uncle roy i shout out to overtly christian uncle

roy or shout out to the one thing that everyone does where all the you know the family members of a certain generation go take that walk to the store or park and then you know and then say no leave your jacket here man you won't put that shit on when we get back so it just covers it up anyway uh thank you to i think that was locker roni on the discord shout out to locker roni shout out to my cousins who stopped inviting me on that after i got too high one time and just started spouting gibberish miles they're gonna fucking know they're like what did you say oh man he's freaking me out I just like started speaking backwards for a little bit. I grayed out and then I started speaking backwards words. And I was like, that didn't make sense, huh?

And everyone was like, do we need to take him to the hospital? Anyways, Miles. You get like that on cigarettes too, huh? We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an activist advocate and survivor who hosts the new podcast survivors heal which tackles the constructs that keep the cycles of violence spinning in our culture it's oh yeah el cherell what's up oh yeah hey? Hey. Welcome. How are you? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Oh, yeah. Doing well.

How was your Thanksgiving? I was good. It was good. I did some home cooking, and then I went and spent all my appetite with family. There you go. There you go. Yeah. I was in the Bay Area, which was really nice.

The weather up there stays cool. I always I was in the Bay Area, which was really nice. The weather up there stays cool. I always liked that about the Bay Area. Oh, yeah. Are you familiar with the Sinbad, Kazam, Shazam whole business? Yeah. I can't. I don't know. It all is jumbled, though, when I think about it.

I'm like, is it Kazam or was it, was he Shazam? And then you got to think like, okay, are we just in parallel universes or something? It's like the Mandela effect. Yeah. That's what we're trying to get to the bottom of. Because I remember it like this. Right. We talked about it on yesterday's episode and a lot of listeners were like, actually, this has been solved.

And they sent some sketches wherein Sinbad had his arms crossed, like I imagined on the VHS cover in my brain. They sent a still from a TNT promo. Yeah, a promo on a TV, but none of these things that I have ever seen before. So even though it's been solved in the sense that we know where the different, and then of course you have Kazam, so we somehow pasted Sinbad's face over Shaq's face

and then photoshopped this new VHS cover. It's still so fascinating to me and like so mysterious to me the way that that worked just for everyone like whether you saw that shit or not like somehow everybody else seeing that like put that into my brain in some way and that's that's how it came to me i don't know i still don't know how it got in my brain but it is i i'm i'm not suggesting it's from a parallel universe it's the most powerful one though because i think we all feel like we can figure out how we got there but we can't find the threads you know like even christy hamaguchi made he's like hey this sketch from all that might be it and then he's saying but i can't find the unedited sketch so like there's like these stills and you see these moments but i mean

yeah i don't know what it was i think it's a combination of his clothing because he wore genie pants anyway right in the early 90s and late 80s so i think there's but part of me feels like there's a smoking gun image i feel that like i'm really i feel like we're all conflating but it's i don't know maybe maybe it doesn't the internet hasn't found it yet and the internet's good at finding that shit yeah so i don't know it is the stated subject of this podcast america shared consciousness right so we'll allow it we will open the show talking about that even though it has nothing to do with the news or pop culture of the day.

And it's an old ass Mandela effect. It's an old ass. Everybody's covered it. And then everyone was like, yo, this has been solved. But it's still very interesting to me for the same reason that most of the stuff we talk about on the show is interesting. Why did all the NPR hosts end up talking like that? Go ahead, Oya. Yeah, because I just I have not seen anybody claiming to have solved that one so i'm just late to the game i guess because i'm like well they it's yeah so are they saying that shack is the one who played shazam and shack is in the real movie

but people also felt that there was a sinbad film called Shazam. There was. Was there not? There wasn't. That's the thing. We're all wrestling with Oya. That didn't happen. And we're just sifting through the ashes of that memory. The man never played a genie in anything, as far as we can tell.

The closest we've got is that on a promo, he had a turban like you see in stereotypical genie roles. And then he had something like wardrobe similar and body posture similar to the way, I guess, everyone imagines it in a sketch on a Nickelodeon show. And that's all we got. He never played a genie, which is crazy. and show and that's that's all we got he never played a gene which is crazy yeah that does not that does not seem to be congruent with my memory yeah that's i think we i think we're just rejecting yeah it's like we're rejecting mainstream culture's explanation of this yeah i feel like we need to be brave and endeavor and dig deeper to to really find the origins of this because i'm like i don't know jack i might have to take a sabbatical and just go through you know simba's entire imdb and find

every single instance this man has been involving imagery and be like i'm thoroughly i'm thoroughly convinced it's just some weird alchemy about the way a group of minds works together in like our world with like media that we just like don't understand yet but i'm i'm just very interested in the phenomenon so while miles goes on his sabbatical for a couple years to try and solve this i'm going to be fielding tell me about your weird cultural memories zeitgang that like you absolutely know that you remember that actually didn't turn out to be true like i i'm interested interested in the one offs, too. So. All right. So that's the end of our show. We're going to do today's episode zeitgeist we are talking about the republican national committee just trying to figure just trying to figure this dang thing out what the

the hey happened to that red wave so we're going to talk about what what where they're looking for answers and the answers they're likely to come up with uh we might even talk about a couple taste tests that we came across in the media i came across in the media i don't want to love you into this stupid shit so somebody talked about a ketchup taste test saying you might want to revisit the standard hunts versus heinz taste test all of that plenty more but first oh yeah we like to ask guests, what is something from your search history? Other people are not going to like this. Uh-oh. a voodoo deity that is synchronized with like the black madonna and she is like the patron saint of domestic violence victims and she protects women and she protects children um lesbians in particular interesting but yeah and like but she's like supposed to be like like a very fierce

spirit and i was like looking that up though because it was like connected to a dream i had nice yeah damn we're diving deep into the cultural consciousness here this is wait so where wait tell me a little bit about these other like deities that exist outside of our like, you know, our just mainstream cultures like Judeo-Christian idea of, you know, patron saints and things like that. I just know Jesus blue eyes. That's all I got. Tell me about this other idol. Well, and it's funny because it's like a lot of it stems from one cultural religion, which is Ifa, that kind of followed the transatlantic slave trade, you know, through went with us everywhere. And it just got called a bunch of different things like voodoo, voodoo. Sometimes if now Santeria, Candomblé in Brazil, it got called a lot of different things. But also the folks, the African folks, they like hid their their saviors, their saints christian idols a lot of the times and so like erzuli red

eyes was like was synchronized like or when i'm saying synchronized it's like she was like hidden in right uh with the like the black madonna in particular so like that image of the Virgin Mary with child. But then, you know, she had her own her own history as well. But, you know, it's like a pantheon of different gods or deities or Orishas. Right. And actually, my name is a representative of one of them. Right. And that is. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting just because there's like there there are many. But there but they all kind of like go back to, you know, this Yoruba Nigerian religion.

Yeah. Because I also yeah, like I also know about it through like drum rhythms, too. religion yeah because i also yeah like i also know about it through like drum rhythms too like there are drum rhythms that correspond with them like oshun or ogun and things like that but i was i i've never really thought about the part of like using the accepted christian forms as like vessels for it to be able to still kind of you know practice religion without you know people being like wait what's that okay they're using the they're using our our icons for the moment so that's really interesting yeah like even i read like our zuli red eyes was like synchronized with santa barbara as well at some point and i don't know it was it's just i found it very interesting because it's like all of these ways that we had to hide our culture underneath the oppression.

In particular, this spirit is supposed to be really hard and dark and even to a certain extent violent and vengeful because she was summoned during these these like really dark hard times like during slavery and particularly she comes from a region of Haiti where there's like a story like her origin story is that she was like betrayed she was betrayed by her folks. Even though she was, like, fighting for her people, she was betrayed by them. Like, they wanted to make sure, like, their secrets were kept. So they removed her tongue, you know? And supposedly, right? A lot of this, I think that the things that make it so mysterious is that a lot of this is like oral tradition. Yeah. You know, but like, yeah, I don't know.

That's so interesting. I know. I'm sorry. I'm getting all deep into. No, it's fascinating. If people want to look it up, it's E-R-Z-U-L-I. Red eyes. Yeah.

Most people are like, yeah, I looked up how good is cabbage in your refrigerator? So I appreciate this one. I'm like, well, hold on, go on, go on, go on. What now? like you were mentioning it kind of staying with people across like different cultures and like sometimes these figures even recur or like occur independently of one another and you know it's it's just something symbolically that we don't know if they were like influenced or how the how the like what the exact lineage is right but it crops up and there's just something powerful about the image or the icon that just makes it appear in people's brains you know super interesting all right you you've got a lot to live up to after that search history what's something you think is overrated oh man i think online shopping is over overrated cyber monday honestly it's just because i feel like it curbs impulse buying like why

like why would we want to curb that that's like the stuff that the retail therapy dopamine is made of like and you can get like extra like extra gifts for people that you that were actually intended for you but then you realize you didn't need like if you're actually in person you can just like impulse buy but when you're online you're like oh i can second guess that i can just put that in the cart and i can just leave that tab opened for 20 years i call that spiritual layaway because you're like you know what i'm gonna i like the idea of me buying this so i'll go as far to put it in my cart and shit i might hit checkout but don't ask me for those credit card details just yet i'm not there yet and i totally get what you mean because i like when i look at

stuff online i'm like oh yeah that'll be cool and like to your point i'm like i don't know i don't really need all this shit like whereas in person i remember when they used to have fries electronics this like electronic store there used to be the line to the checkout stand was a gauntlet of impulse buy shit they're like try and get through this line without picking up a loose stick of gum or a DVD or some shit or a spindle of rewritable CDs. Because they got me every time. And I'm like, yeah, to your point, I'm like, there is there's a power of physical space shopping. There is. There is.

And then not to mention, it's like the person at the checkout line, you know, they can actually convince you to buy even more shit you don't need. Right. And, you know, they can actually convince you to buy even more shit you don't need. Right. But it's a good thing in this season, you know, because then you always have extra shit to, like, you know, wrap up. And it helps the economy, which is the thing that controls my mood, you know, whether the stock market's up or not. So as long as I'm helping the economy, doing my part, going out into chain and box stores and just helping America. No, go to small businesses.

Oh, damn. Yes. But they're not on the stock market, and that's the only thing that I care about. I just make sure the line go up. You walk in there, hold on, hold on. Is this gift shop publicly traded? What? All right, never mind. I'm off this.

Oh, can I tell you something? There is a moment in a different world where someone says, they say, I want somebody who loves Shazam. In season five, episode 13, the words Shazam are uttered. I'm just going to play this really quick because, look, I don't care what the censors say. We have to get to the bottom of this. She said she wants, I think somebody took her diary.

Hold on. Where is it? Someone who loves Shazam. Look at yourself. And then Jasmine Guy's going off. Anyway. Shazam. Found a moment where Shazam was evoked on a show where Sinbad was on.

A different world. What? See? Uh-uh. Shazam. What the fuck? But the false memory is Sinbad was Shazam, when really Shaquille O'Neal was Kazam

and that is the movie. That's what I'm just saying. What are they talking about in the show when they say, I want somebody who loves Shazam? Are they getting the name of Kazam wrong? No, I think someone stole her diary and they were going through, like, she was like, oh, I wish I could find a guy who likes this. And she was saying it was just like a throwaway line. But the words Shazam are just saying just very narrowly saying Shazam was said on a different world.

There's just crumbs everywhere. No, Sinbad was definitely Shazam. And I think that maybe they like they scrubbed the movie because it was so bad but i definitely remember watching how bad that movie would have to be that they've like kept this conspiracy up like it's it's even more comprehensive than like the jfk assassination conspiracy they just covered it up so deeply and like they have an entire wing at the pentagon like full of cia and nsa agents just scrubbing the internet every time somebody like mentions or like posts some piece of definitive evidence of it like they're just on them they just disappear that person oh no. Oh, no. Yeah, I don't know.

I like, though, the idea better that Shazam was a film. It was just so bad. We can't. Nobody could watch it anymore. I'm more invested in that. Thank you, Oya, because I needed that. Yeah. Now I'm a Shazam truther.

We're going to get contacted by some shadowy figures like, you don't want to see this movie. I would stop digging if I were you. Yeah, exactly. Oh, shit. You don't want to you don't want to see this movie you don't want i would stop digging if i were you yeah exactly oh you don't want to see where this thread ends it ends in the movie shazam which is really bad i know your internet was getting all choppy yeah and oil was the one who mentioned it oh yeah okay just never mind i, we love Kazam starring Shaq from 1995. The only Azam movie until the DC one recently. Yeah. Yes, exactly. I know not of Sinbad.

Who is Sinbad? Oh, the sailor. Of course. Of course. Of course. Oh, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? We got too close to the truth, folks.

We got to move on. I heard it here. Anyways, dream interpretation. I think dream interpretation is underrated. Yeah. movies happen inside our brains when we sleep at night that like when you look at them are like really adept like metaphors for like thoughts we're having and and like visual expressions like artistically designed visual expressions of things that are happening in our lives like there's just some great artist and like james cameron just mentioned this he was like yeah i don't need a streaming service they can't beat the shit that i got going inside my brain every night i got the top i got the top streaming service but yeah like when you take time to look at your dreams and like that's what you need to actually like have a dream journal and look at them and take them

seriously but when you do that you start to see that there's all this detail there that is like very meaningful and like your brain is creating art for you to look at and understand. And I think sometimes we're like dismissive. We're like, yeah, what? Like your teeth fall out and you have a stress dream. But there's also just like so many fascinating things in there. Yeah. I didn't even think because i i've typically only

remembered like when when you know people always talk about your dream interpretation or whatever i'm always thinking of like just very specific things that are like on that list like when your teeth come out is this or this that or that i'm like the ones i always remember like my punches be moving too slow yes i'm like man i'm about to duff this person out. And I'm like, what the heck? It's not moving quick enough. Those are frustrating. But then, to your point, I'm like, I never write down the ones and I'm like, that was a trip. I was kicking it with this person I haven't seen since third grade. Yeah.

And like, what the fuck was that? Where did that come from? Do you actually write down? Do you dream journal, Jack? Because you were talking like you've... I have in the past. And I't currently but i'm it's something that i like do every once in a while and the dreaming when i was doing it was like much more vivid and i think it just like sticks more because you get in the habit but how about you right yeah i i did

dream journal previously but i did i did have to stop as well because I do think that it kind of gets you a lot more into those kind of lucid dreams and like your dreams just get way more intense for some reason when you're paying that, um, not much attention to it in your waking times and but sometimes i just like write down like little pieces that i remember like actually that's how i found erzuli red eyes because i just googled an image that i saw in my dream which was a woman with red eyes and that's who came up wow so did were you familiar with rizali red eye before red eyes before you like had that dream no not really wow yeah powerful the unconscious mind more more powerful than anything we know about yeah like anything science has created i feel yeah i was

i almost started dream journaling because man this is this doesn't sound so stupid. But when Inception came out, people, they're like, yeah, man, you should think about lucid dreaming because that's where that's like, that's where it's at. And I was like, oh, shit. Right. And I was like, as I, you know, looked into that more, a lot of like one of the steps is to start dream journaling because you want to you want to put yourself in that cycle of being bringing consciousness to your dreams or at least being able to like immediately after you sleep just writing it down because that's how you're going to be able to lucid dream more but i just got i just forgot and i got lazy and i was like there's not a there's not an eye mask you could wear for that or something yeah i could i could say that i stopped dream journaling because it was too powerful and i did the world wasn't ready for what I was discovering in there. But it was just laziness. It was just like I started being like, I'd rather. Now, I don't I don't want to put us.

I don't want to put us all at risk. But Jack and Oya, have y'all ever had a dream where you're at a movie theater and you look on screen and there's a genie coming out of the land? Miles, stop. And he's a light skin coming out of the land. Miles, stop. And he's a light-skinned brother named Sinbad. And the movie was called Shazam. Do you remember this? I think we all had that dream. A collective dream.

Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Or was it a dream? And that's why I challenge us all to say, was that a dream or was that real? Yeah. You ever have the one where you can't run because there's's no gravity, like you can't get any purchase on the ground. Oh, like no traction.

Yeah, no traction. And so you're running, but like your feet are just like floating like in your half inch off. But yeah, it's like that. That's that's my version of the slow punches. But yeah, whenever I'm trying to, you know, do anything physical, I'm suddenly in water. Yeah. Like my my motion feels like very restrained. Yeah. And I'm not to do anything physical, I'm suddenly in water. Yeah. My motion feels very restrained. Yeah.

And I'm not going to dig deeper into that. It has nothing to do with the fact that I didn't get on the high school basketball team. Nothing. Just go on, Jack. I mean, why am I on trial right now? Oh, yeah. What's some other stuff that you found through like dream interpretation like young has a whole philosophy on this he has the big red book that has like focuses on all these

different icons of like shared dreams and young is very into the shared consciousness but what what what jumps out to you when you think about like dream interpretation well you know what i think that it's so funny because one of those things that like get put into like like the the magic witchcraft kind of category even though in judeo-christian texts they talk about you, different saints going to get their dreams interpreted, you know, or, or even the religious figures having the power to interpret dreams, you know? And so I just think that, you know, if we were less afraid of it, you know, like some of the, some of the knowledge and just emotional maturity that we can probably access by examining what is in our subconscious, unconscious mind, I think it would be pretty culture changing. That's just me, though. changing yeah that's just me though no i mean like half of the ideas they're like and then he had a dream of a ladder and that's how he figured out that like he was going to move his family to

a different town and like yeah they were very serious about their dreams in the bible but even like inventors and stuff right like a lot of like inventors, like in people who have discovered like new technologies and, you know, are like a lot of them that started with a dream. So I don't know. I just think. Yeah, there's one. I think it's the Mobius strip, but I could be wrong. But there's one scientific discovery or maybe it was the Ouroboros. It was like one scientist was like trying to figure out this thing for a long time. And it was like super important.

And it took him like he was thinking about it for months. And then he had a dream of a snake eating its tail. And that's how the idea for like what the structure of the thing was. People are probably the people who know the story are probably screaming so uh super producer justin is saying the double helix the double helix they actually thought of on lsd while experimenting with lsd so which is another like way of getting at that unconscious part of the mind yeah but like the shape actually came to came to them well well

right because it seems like those those realizations come because you're operating in a state of consciousness that isn't like bound to the physical world so because of that possibilities are infinite you know and i think that's man okay maybe i'll start reading journaling yeah what the fuck is up i think the first 30 minutes of every episode should be us just talking about our dreams from now on i think people would be into that yeah oh man you should have seen it man lebron james is actually hitting some of these dreams i'm having all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll catch up on some news. of me for I have followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and

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Medalev was trying to figure out a logical way to organize the chemical elements, and he had a dream, and the periodic table just fell on a table in front of him. And that's how he came up with the periodic table. August Kikule was worrying about how the atoms in benzene were arranged, and he fell asleep and began dreaming of atoms dancing gradually the atoms arranged themselves into the shape of a snake then the snake turned around and bit its own tail and that's how he figured out that it was like made up of rings of carbon atoms which it's yeah it's wild it's like your brain has access to this creative power that we just like don't, you know, we just don't give it credit for or we just don't even watch really pay that much attention to it.

Right. And I think it's chemically induced. I mean, I don't like there's there's some magic to that. Right. Just as much as there's magic to chemistry. Right. But I really do think it's like the natural LSD that's in our brains, you know, that's influenced by, like the, I don't even know, maybe this is totally unscientific in 2022, but it's like, there's like maybe, I don't know, gamma rays or some shit, I don't know. They used to call it the ether. But there's like some universal energy that I feel like we are all kind of influenced by and like chemically, though. And that's what we're tapping into. Yeah, I mean, a lot of the drugs that we do or like the altered states come from chemicals that are inside our mind, right? Like we, the pills or the things that we take give the brain permission just assume everything has a rational, scientific, analytical, you know, reason based explanation. And that has caused us culturally to, you know, shut off an entire very important part of like sort of the mystery side of like human experience and the you know human power so yeah i don't know this is my favorite episode mysteries we've ever done i just it's wild to think that like the drug

war is literally holding us back from being like yeah man the secret was in uh psychedelics the whole time right yeah the whole time the whole time it was that actually right the secret to world peace. Yeah, yeah. Because everybody let their egos dissolve. They saw the interconnectedness of our situation and realized, oh, we need to take up for each other. That's, wow. Right there.

That's all it was. You solved it. Oh, my gosh. I knew everything was going to be solved on TDZ. I knew it. I dreamt it, actually. So do we even need to talk about republicans now i feel like let's talk about shazam because we're making that movie i don't give a fuck like i said we have

to deep fake it we're gonna deep fake it i think somebody already deep faked it i think funny or die or like yeah i think college humor did one but wasn't it with him in it though yeah it was no no i'm going we're going back i'm gonna we're gonna make it look like it with him in it, though? Yeah, it was. No, no, I'm going. We're going back. We're going to make it look like it was made in 92. Like that's the kind of that's the level of authenticity we're going to pursue. Or we will look in every, you know, municipal dump and try and excavate a loose VHS tape of the real Shazam. Because I am now a Shazam truther. All right.

So, I mean, people struggling to come up with a solution to something. Some people who might want to look in their dreams. The Republican National Committee is in a bit of a tough spot. They canall empty your pockets now. We got this. We're going to put the finishing touches on curb stomping democracy. Y'all just give us your money and we will deliver. Then they only like eked out the House by a couple of seats. The Senate did not go. There was nothing like a wave and all that anger. Now they're trying to figure out what to do in the confusion right and all this disappointment has led to all kinds of chaos but the biggest question that lingers is how the heck did we lose so you know i think it's the kind of rage that has even inspired as of now the my pillow guy mike lindell he's saying you know what i should be running for the

head of the rnc i'm gonna play that for you real quick because he's very confident about his ability to unseat Ronna McDaniel. I am 100 percent running for the RNC chairman against Ronna McDaniel. 100 percent. I'm all in, Steve. And one of the things that one of the big donors said to me, he said, Mike, he said, everybody wants you to be head of the RNC. Some of them just don't know it yet. Yeah, none of that is true. I'm sure somebody said that to him. I'm sure.

I don't know. That's how all these grifters talk. They were like, yo, man, I was on a plane and this soldier came up to me. He had just been shot through his chest in Iraq, but he came up to me despite his injuries. He walked all the way to tell me, thank you for what I'm doing. And then he passed away in the aisle and became an angel and flew off. And I remember he did tell me this because it did happen. They always have stories like this about someone I won't name big up me. And that's why my ego is just going wild.

Someone I won't name big up me. And that's why my ego is just going wild. Steve Job, right before he died, called me and told me he wants me to be president. It was in a dream. It was in a dream, Steve. I'm telling you, Steve Bannon, it was in a dream. And those have meaning. So, you know, right now, I think to figure all of that out, like why is why did the RNC lose so bad? How is it that racism, misogyny and homophobia could be so unpopular with normal people?

How is this possible? The RNC must have been thinking to themselves. Well, now they're putting together a very serious group of the most out of touch people to assess what went wrong with the midterm strategy. The RNC chair, current chair, Ronna McDaniel, told this, said this, quote, as we assess the midterms and plan for 2024, we are gathering a diverse range of respected leaders in our movement to join together and help chart a winning course in the years to come. I am thrilled that this talented group of Republicans will be shoulder to shoulder with us as we work to grow our party, hold Democrats accountable and whatever, Republicans, something, something. So all that to say is they've put together just this,

the Avengers of Republican operatives. So that means Kellyanne Conway, former White House advisor, evangelical leader, Tony Perkins, a black guy who's a Republican, who happens to be in office. So they're like, oh, yeah, you get him to get some of these other like any like Latinx people we have from like Texas, get a couple of them. And let's get Blake Masters, who absolutely has no business telling anybody what went wrong in 2024 when he is what went wrong in 2024 or 2022 peter teal's like dedicated lackey right he was just like a peter teal acolyte who peter teal was like well i have so much power i'm just gonna run this guy who does everything i say including function as a human blood bag for me and he was just the most unlikable candidate that's ever been run and he lost a super winnable seat in arizona like that seems to be the one thing that everybody

agrees on is that this guy's a fucking you know political toxin and yeah but i love i love to see them not learning from their mistakes you know i mean it mean, it's like, they're like, man, how did this happen? Get the people responsible for this happening in here to figure out what they did wrong. Like, that's whatever. Shout out to y'all for being rigid, like most party leaders in both parties are just like, no, we know what we're doing. We're 80. Okay, please get out of our way.

And right now, as it stands, others have been sniffing around around like Lee Zeldin, who ran for governor in New York. He was like, maybe I'm oh, you know what? I might actually run to be the chair of the RNC. But he I think he got the message. Nobody wanted him. So he faded to the background, which makes sense because 100 out of the 168 voting members that decide who is going to run the dnc have already said they want mit romney's niece uh to continue doing a bad job so it looks like she is safe for now she used to be rana romney mcdaniel and then she i think she was like oh the nepotism stuff kind of getting in the way let me just be rana mcdaniel like you want to be rana rana romney Romney McDaniel on your way to somewhere and then get that nepotism name out of the way. But meanwhile, on Fox, they are continuing to lay the blame at the feet of women that won't get on board with chauvinist ideologies.

Because Jesse Waters, he said he's offering an olive branch to women to help move forward because maybe that's what it was. Here's him with his take on what went absolutely wrong. Don't worry. This is him trying to figure out what's going on. He's about to ask a woman for his hand so he can be hand in hand with a woman

as he hits this literal olive branch and everyone's rolling their eyes in the studio. Women need men. And men need women. We need each other. And if you understand nature, you understand there is not a war between the sexes. We need to make love, not war.

And you need to stop chopping your hair off and calling us toxic. We are on a mission. Yes, we peacock, but we peacock for your attention. So fall in love and let's all live happily ever after okay that's the kind of shit going on first of all for people who didn't like aren't watching this he makes his co-worker hold his hand while instructing all women to make love to men yeah there was nothing there was nothing olive branch about it which was basically being like quit cutting your hair and saying we're toxic yeah like that was

really the distillation of what he said and but that's that's about the the most critical thought i think they're willing to give their own platform i hate to be a debbieer, but I was just discussing with some high school students. They already fucking know. They know as young ladies that every 11 minutes in this country, another woman is murdered by their intimate partner. So it's so cool and great, you know, for people just to be like, oh, yeah, we can just, you know, join hands and live happily ever after without actually, you know, being aware of the conditions that, like, we're really living under. And then I think what's crazy is that that statistic came out of a conversation about toxic masculinity. You know what I mean? Like, it's like these and this is a conversation being had with like high school students. Like they're like the fact that the Republican Party thinks like that there's this, you know, class of people who are just who just need to be deprogrammed from actual reality. Like, get the hell out of here.

That's why your fucking red wave was non-existent. Yeah, seriously. And I think it just shows, like, they're just continuing, like, they just don't understand. Like, they cannot separate themselves from their policy and understand that that's it's repulsive to a majority of people at this point. Like what they stand for is like literally repulsive to a voter. And yeah, I think it's like with anything. Right. There's always this thing of like whenever a group is in power, they just like to say, come on, get over it, man. Shake my hand. Can we just get along now?

they just like to say come on get over it man shake my hand can't we just get along now and i don't want to address the history or the actual context or the structures that will continue the issue i just want you to say you'll stop complaining about it yeah and that was about as most that it's not about yeah let me address rape culture or you know chauvinism in this country and x y and z because there was no reckoning. That was why it's such a clear chauvinistic thing where it's like, I will be fixed as a man. Y'all need to stop cutting your hair and calling me toxic. Now can we get along? Offered zero changes on his part.

He was just like, hey, look, we're peacocks here, but you need us, so stop being mad at me. No, motherfucker, they don don't yeah and it turns out that's they don't it's not gonna work and you're only gonna continue to look around and be like where the fuck are people going which i think shows again why you have people like nick fuentes who see the writing on the wall and they're like there's no way you can win with a policy like this unless it's just forcing people to live under this kind of society that's it right because the momentum is getting away from us at this point and now they're not playing politics they're just this unless it's just forcing people to live under this kind of society that's it right because the

momentum is getting away from us at this point and now they're not playing politics they're just basically saying how can we corner motherfuckers with our ideology that's it they're not interested in winning anything it's just now it's a game of how can we set up legal legislative structures that will just enshrine all of this shit into law or make it the norm so then we win that game now and y'all can just suffer under that yeah well it's a good thing that they only have a 6-3 majority on the supreme court so yeah we'll get to that all right let's take a quick break and let's let's talk about something let's let's talk water and ketchup we'll come back and talk water and ketchup we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so there's an article in The Takeout that The Takeout is a fast food blog that is the probably most cited source on our just a food blog all food yeah most cited source on our on our show yeah but they're making the claim that hunts is actually a superior more adult ketchup

because it's not as sweet and oh, we're going there with it. Yeah. So they're basically saying that as we age, we lose our taste for sweetness. And so if you were like a completely objective adult doing a taste test, you would actually prefer Hunt's. But because of brand loyalty and because the time when we're actually eating our most ketchup is in childhood, that's when Heinz kind of wins you over. So I don't know. I'm just curious to hear you guys' experiences with ketchup.

I'm not. Look, I will say I'm loyal. I'm definitely a loyal person. So I definitely get the brand loyalty thing, like without even considering it. I'm like, get that hunts nonsense away from me but i like to think i can be objective so i do have some hunts ketchup in front of me that i will test in a second but that's where i'm at oya what about you what's your what are your ketchup allegiances where are you at you know it's funny is when i was like in middle school

whenever i would complain to my dad that I was hungry and usually it was all my brothers and sisters all of us complaining he would be like you better drink a tall glass of water and you know eat some packs of ketchup and those packs were always Heinz so I mean I can't even remember a pack of hun's ketchup. I know. It feels like disrespect. I feel like Heinz had the market cornered for a long time. And now you're starting to see more like I think because Heinz is associated with just, you know, broad mass market. There's a lot of people testing the waters with their like whole foods 365 brand ketchup and like organic ketchup and shit like that i've i've not found any of those to be as

good and it is a source of some uh discussion in our household because i'm like we should just give the kids heinz right but yeah like as opposed to the one with no preservatives that tastes bad But yeah, like as opposed to the one with no preservatives that tastes bad. That's that's man. That's the stuff that makes a child be small. Right. You grow tall because of all the preservatives that you treat as a kid. That's my thought on it.

I'm like, man, look at all those kids who couldn't have McDonald's with your short asses. No, I'm joking. But hunts. I'm just going to have a packet right here. I'm just going to taste a little. You're going to just take it. Take a packet to the dome. The way ketchup was intended to be consumed. a tall glass of water you know you see it i'm telling you he he knew something yeah that was a palette

okay shut up here we go here we go hunt's ketchup hunt's ketchup to the dome uh we should say that miles before he dug into this packet of hunts, he also had another packet that was puffed up. It was so old. Yeah, there was a lot of gas building up. You know, I'm not mad at hunts, actually. Okay. Okay, I got some

hinds, too. So the other thing about taste tests is that they don't make for good podcast segments. You shouldn't do them on podcast. You hear me rifle through my loose bag of condiments. Oh, that's another puffy packet. Well, I already know how Heinz tastes because last night I ate the standard, my favorite food in America, which is grocery store potato wedges.

And I had that with ketchup. I can say instantly I taste hunts and I'm like, it's not sweet. It's not sweet. Yeah. And I don't know if I would necessarily appreciate that more. I mean, like, I get what you're saying. Yeah. But I'm not like, oh, my God, what have I been doing?

Yeah. No, you got to be careful with that ketchup taste and removing too much of the sweetness because it's like you'll just be left with this like kind of rust taste, this like copper tinny like, yeah. Cheap ketchup can get like that too or like other ketchup, when it's not sweet, you're like, it's got a weird not ketchup feeling to me.

Yeah. And I don't know, maybe Heinz just shifted the goalpost so much that in our minds, like it has redefined even what the flavor of ketchup is to someone. Because I think that's the biggest thing. It's not that I'm like, oh, my God, Hunts tastes like shit. But I'm more like, yeah, it's less sweet. But also in my mind, that's not what ketchup is. What Heinz has done is pretty remarkable because like when you look at, look at the mustard space, there's, you know, 1000 different types of mustard. Like you kind of like have to have all the different types of mustard.

Because each one is different. And to just completely corner a product and be like, yeah, that's really the only one that people recognize across the board as the best in brand. We're also just doing some research because I had a possibly false memory that McDonald's had Heinz ketchup recently. Could be that I was remembering something. And Shazam Happy Meals? Yeah, and those Shazam Happy Meals. But they stopped serving Heinz in 2013 and now serve McDonald's fancy ketchup, which I didn't notice.

I didn't know that they'd stopped because the new CEO of Heinz left his position as the worldwide CEO of Burger King to take over Heinz. And McDonald's was like, no, we're not fucking with them anymore yeah like oh you went from burger king to heinz guess who doesn't want heinz anymore us which is so wild they said it was a quote the primary reason for ending the

partnership was a quote recent management change at heinz all right, yeah. So nothing, nothing definitive, but maybe give hunts a second look if you if you're like me and have just been, you know, dismissing hunts out of hand. me i don't think it's that like my palate is more mature as i age it's just that well i think it's it's just more it's like just more cynical than just heinz has completely shifted the goalposts in people's like mouths for like what ketchup is and it's just sorry they you know that's it is what it is now yeah also heinz has a organic brand i mean it has an organic yeah. I mean, it has an organic. Yeah. Yeah, it does. It has an organic one. Organic house. Yeah. And it has one without sugar, you know. So, yeah, no.

Brand loyalty. Yeah. Keep enjoying it. Stay loyal. Also, they're all probably bad for you. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. Don't worry.

I'm pretty sure it's sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Yeah. Well, yeah. Such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Really enjoyed talking to you.

Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me at SurvivorsHeal.com and there all my social media is linked. Yeah, yeah. And tell us a little bit about your podcast, too. Yeah, so my podcast is really a compilation of the stories and practices and tools and resources that come from my work, my life's work, because, you know, it's like 15 years in doing work to support survivors of crime, but also doing adjacent work in advocacy and organizing at the grassroots level. So, yeah. And yeah, I get to talk with a lot of people who are really close to me. And then I get to talk with a lot of people who have been in the field themselves, just, you know, looking to interrupt violence and also like just be solutions oriented, you know? thing we're missing from our conversations because i think most of the way we usually consume stories about crime is like and then someone is arrested case and that's done yeah

there's no you talk about true you talk about true crime on your show too yeah being like a thing that people are obsessed with but maybe a lot of it is because so many americans are victims of crime or no victims of crime right right? Absolutely. And I think that what is missing from the conversation is that we don't focus on what happens to the survivors after the crime. We don't focus on the healing part of what happens after crime. And you see you seen that just now in the whole thing with Netflix and the Dahmer situation where like the the that we've grown accustomed to is a part of the reason why we continue, you know, just to see it all sensationalized. what it will take for us as a culture to really shift our imaginations into and not just our imagination but our practices which is really important on and our policies you know to supporting people in taking more control of their healing journeys you know right yeah and i think yeah it's like a huge flaw just in general like you say culturally especially in america like the idea no one wants to struggle publicly

no one will acknowledge they're struggling and like the bigger part of that is like healing is such a huge part that's missing because i think so much like the american ethos is like strong you get through it don't worry about it you pick yourself back up but meanwhile in the background whatever transgressions you've been through or experienced those linger without actually being addressed and fester into other ideas or other problems or continue similar cycles of violence or lies or whatever and yeah like i think it really is powerful to just to have a show that's about saying like, this is the importance of actually acknowledging our humanity and how important

the concept of healing is. Because we don't, we're not really, we're not anchoring a lot of those conversations. So I think it's really fantastic, like work that you're doing. And I hope everybody who's listening to this will definitely check out the show as well. Yeah, yeah. Damn, damn thanks is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh man it's i know it's hard no there's a youtube there's like these shorts like another satisfying racial moment hey god those ones get me every day like just random bits of life where you know folks are you know just displaying their understanding of what it is to be a person of color in this country yeah yeah and they're really hilarious like one i saw yesterday it's like a lady was just minding her

business like doing her job working you know making a sandwich and some guy comes along is like do you serve crackers she smirks. Let me serve everybody here. It's terrible. Terrible, terrible. But, you know, I've been amused. Miles, where can people find you? And what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Hey, if they got at symbols, type in miles of gray after.

Chances are I'm there. You can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. Boosty is the number one hundred percent top rated NBA podcast with comedy in it. Hosted by men named Miles or Jack hailing from the San Fernando Valley area or Wheeling, West Virginia, Dayton, Ohio, Massachusetts or other places. And also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk 90 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like. First one's from Mike Drucker at Mike Drucker saying, I feel like we're close to cracking the mystery of whether the man who grew up wealthy from apartheid might be racist.

Yeah, I think I think we might be getting there uh then another one uh at writer toast tweeted a man a man and his son are in a car accident the man is killed instantly his son is rushed to the hospital the surgeon says i can't operate on this patient he is my son the car then crashes through the wall of the operating room killing everyone how is this possible the answer tesla spin on that old riddle that's why it's truly wild like that is that that was a riddle that people were like i don't know man like how is it a lady a lady doctor what do you mean is really a sign of the time in some ways we've come along a long way you know what i was

just thinking about that is kind of unrelated but like kind of related is like that less than a generation ago people were like the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. If you just make yummy food for them, they'll fall in love with you. It's like such a wild, a wild thing that I think like even my dad's generation was like. Yeah, or like men perpetuating those through the media. Just so helpless. Just, she'd give me food. Yeah.

Hey, I'm going to gonna this character i'm writing dialogue for is my dream woman and she's gonna tell other women that the way to a man's heart is through feeding him a ton of food that he likes yeah and enter let's see some tweets i've been enjoying hot pink furby tweeted twizzlers fulfill my primal urge to chew on electrical wires. Jeremy Parrish probably tweeted out of nowhere. My nephew just asked, do you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time he heard a bell ring? And now I'm going to be haunted by this question.

That might've been a conversation that happened after the walk at Thanksgiving, you know? And, Oh, and then Hannah Lynn lynn tweeted brain so rotted i can't read quote it's giving tuesday the normal way which when i saw that trending on twitter i was like it's giving tuesday like that's it's serving tuesday it's giving real tuesday vibes instead of the way god intended so anyway shout out to hannah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily

zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Oh, man. You know, I was just, just the more drum and bass I was listening to the other day. It was getting me so motivated.

This one is called Out of My Head, featuring Cherryade. C-e-r-r-y-a-d-e and it's by the groom uh maybe dj 1991 but man this was just some you know exercise drum and bass music or if you want to power walk some shit to this uh throw this on your headphones and get your heart rate up now when you're picturing power walking, are you picturing the loose hip wiggle that the real speed walkers do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to. Okay, good. I like some music that makes me do that.

Only way you could do it almost looks like you're doing a salsa or something. Like if you just saw the shoulders, you'd be like, oh, is that a salsero? No, I'm listening to drum and bass and I'm getting my steps in. That's my favorite. The coolest looking sport. If anybody hasn't seen Speedwalkers in action. Love the honey in their hips. I remember the first time I saw it on TV.

I thought it was a fucking joke. I think it was in the Olympics in 1992. And I remember my mom, I used to do that shit all the time, piss my mom off. Stop fucking around. I would be like, how fast do you think I can go? How fast do you think I can go? Shout out to speedwalking.

Alright, well go listen to that song and do a little speedwalking around your neighborhood. Get the hips waggling. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk to y'all then bye

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