The Daily Zeitgeist - Keto Is King, Too-Early 2020 Dem Nominee Polls 12.13.18

Episode Date: December 13, 2018

In episode 293, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss the most Googled foods, a preview of the 2020 candidates, the Google CEO sitting down to testify in front of congress, the fall out of the Trump/Pelosi/Schumer showdown, the silence of Mike Pence, Michael Cohen going to prison, Michael Flynn asking for leniency, Maria Butina flipping, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Foods we Googled in 2018: Unicorn cake, CBD gummies, keto everything2. Whole Foods Ranked Worst on Cancer-Linked Package Chemicals3. Bernie Sanders still says class is more important than race. He is still wrong4. Bernie’s Plan for Racial Justice5. Cynthia Nixon, like Bernie Sanders before her, has a problem with black Democrats6. It’s time to end the myth that black voters don’t like Bernie Sanders7. After @SteveKingIA raises inscrutable concerns about iPhones, Google CEO Sunday Pichai patiently informs him, "Congressman, iPhone is made by a different company."8. Trump Springs Shutdown Stunt On Chuck and Nancy, Makes Everything Worse9. Trump says he would be 'proud' to shut down the government over border wall funding10. These Tweets About Mike Pence Are Joking That He's Taken A Vow of Silence11. Everybody’s Wrong: Donald Trump Won the Chuck-n-Nancy Meeting, and Here’s Why12. Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 years in prison13. Michael Flynn's lawyers request no prison time, defend cooperation with Mueller team14. Maria Butina, accused Russian agent, reaches plea deal with prosecutors15. WATCH: Sam Gendel - Pure Imagination (Lo Fi) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. to share consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and social media. It's Thursday, December 13th, 2018. Happy birthday to my little sister, Caitlin. Happy birthday, Caitlin. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. You're the Jack O'Brien. Ain't no one ever gonna get away with lying.

That is courtesy of Hannah Saltis. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I'm beginning to look a lot like Miles Gray. Everywhere I go, Jack O'Brien is over there. And a hosnier in her chair And a guest I'd really like to get to know Wow! Noel Duncan!

Duncan on him with that AKA. Noel Duncan? Yep. So she just comes with it because she's named after the season. This is her time. Yes. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a guest

we surely would like to get to know a little bit better. She's been on the show a number of times. She is a hilarious comedian. She is Sarah June. Hello.

What's up? I don't have an AKA, but I would like to start associating my name with a wolf howl. So if you guys could introduce me again and I'll just show you

how it's going. Or I could introduce you as Sarah June. No, no, no, no, no. Nope. Okay. All right, sorry. Do it.

Say Sarajoo. And we are thrilled to be joined by Sarajoo. That's what I'm trying to get started. Wolf pack. Where my wolf pack at? And then you just got a bunch of... Dude, I got a bad bulletproof again. It's chunky.

For fuck's sakes, man. You got a chunky bulletproof? When are you going to learn? It's like candy corn. Are you trying to... Every year I'm going to be like to learn? It's like candy corn. Are you trying to- Every year I'm going to be like, nah, this won't be different. Are you trying to eat this cold? Well, no.

The butter and oil congeals at the top and it's all chunky. Yeah, that's how butter works, man. But do they suggest that you drink that cold? Yeah. They do? That's dumb. Before I pulled one out the refrigerator and it didn't do this. I have problems and this is not the show.

But anyway, that's my- Bulletproof. You got to have a bulletproof hot or else you're just having chunks of butter with your coffee, which is not bad, but it's not what you- Miles looks upset. No, it's bad. Yeah. It's troubling.

It's fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I haven't fully recovered from the memory of drinking Bulletproof Coke. Oh, yeah. You had like an existential crisis. You don't like just big chunks of coconut oil in your mouth? No.

It was very salty and not a good mix. Well, sorry, Jim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Google has come out with their most Googled terms of 2018. And we're going to look at the most Googled foods of 2018. While we're on the subject of foods, we're going to talk about the fact that Whole Foods has been poisoning us for years. We didn't know. We're going to do a quick 2020 preview, check in with the Democratic field, see how everybody's feeling about all them candidates.

We're going to look at the tech world's latest trip to Capitol Hill. Some more fallout from that Oval Office meeting, all of that, and plenty, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? A recent search history term of mine was, is vaping halal? I wanted to know, andams are divided on the subject. Really? Well, the general consensus is no.

It is not halal. It is haram to vape. Okay. Because it's an intoxicant, right? You're vaping like nicotine or weed or whatever. It's kind of okay

if you are quitting smoking. Okay. It's like okay, you know. It's not halal but like nobody's gonna kick you out of the mosque. And for people

who aren't versed in Islam, can you tell people what halal means? Halal means it's cool. Haram like it's not halal but like nobody's gonna and for people who aren't versed in islam can you tell people what halal means halal means it's cool haram means it's not cool so like so overrated underrated but overrated underrated yeah uh yeah vaping is like it's not okay because it's an intoxication you're not supposed to you're not supposed to get fucked up right you're not supposed to get fucked up on cigarettes you're not supposed to get fucked up on alcohol you're not supposed to get fucked up on cigarettes. You're not supposed to get fucked up on alcohol. You're not supposed to get fucked up on weed. But like, does every Muslim not drink? No. So people do it, whatever. But

interesting, vaping, while haram, does not break wudu, which is when you wash before you pray. There's a special washing procedure before you pray so you get real clean. But vaping doesn't break wudu. So you could wash your hands a bunch and then vape and then

pray to God. Wow. Pretty cool. Yeah. But if you fart, that breaks wudu. Oh, it does? Yeah. Well, yeah.

If you pass out, that also breaks wudu. If you pass out? Yeah. Okay. Weird, weird set of rules. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of really good forums where people ask imams what Muhammad said about vaping. Vaping or farting.

Yeah. Oh, that's so interesting. Not about farting, but about modern shit. Yeah, right, right. It's always really good. And now, is that in the Quran about farting? Yeah, but not. They don't call it farting.

They say anything exiting the body. Oh, okay. Oh, really? So a belch also? Yes. Well, yes. You exhale, so you're not supposed to. But a belch also? Yes. Well, yes. You exhale, so you're not supposed to.

But a belch is... That's fine. I would say digestive gas is building and you're expelling them. Right, right. Yes. Passing wind, taking a shit, passing out, and falling asleep. Okay. Deep sleep. Right. But if you fall asleep a little, I think it's fine. It's all really like...

I'm not Muslim. Are you vaping, is what I was going to ask. No. Okay. You if you fall asleep a little, I think it's fine. It's all really like, it's not, I'm not, I'm not Muslim. Are you vaping is what I was going to ask. Uh, no. Okay. You just wanted to kind of. My friend, well, my, my podcast co-host with the podcast co-most, uh, Drew Nutter is a big, big vape daddy and he recently got a new vape and he, it looks like Hal from the movie 2001.

It's very large and white and it has buttons on it, you know? So I was like, your vape looks like Hal. And then I was like, is vaping Halal? I like that train of thought. That was truly the train of thought. And no, it's not really. But no one's going to kick you out for it.

I mean, don't vape at a service. Just ask for forgiveness. Just atone. Yeah, just atone. Do a little wadoo. It's chill. Is Vape Daddy like a fetish? Like, are people into vape daddies? Like, is that? Ooh, that's a good Google search thing for you to do later. All right, that will be my search history tomorrow.

But search a leather with it. Right. Leather vape daddy. A vape daddy is a man who vapes with confidence, I would say. You know, when you've got a zaddy who vapes, he's a vape daddy. Yeah. Got it. Or a vaddy. Or a zaddy who vapes, he's a vape dad. Yeah. Got it. Or a vaddy.

Or a vaddy. What is something you think is overrated? So I heard recently, and maybe we'll talk about this later too, about Jack Dorsey going to a Vipassana meditation retreat for like eight to 10 days. And then he came back and he was like, here's a graph of my heart rate while I was meditating.

Because he was wearing his ring that measures your heart rate. You know, wearable tech, not creepy at all. You know, a lot of regulation around it. Yes. No worries. Yeah. Yeah, he was, I think knowing all your body measurements all the time is overrated. I think, you know, like the Apple Health and shit, things that track you.

They're kind of cool. In a way, it's like, yeah, it's cool. But really, I don't think, I don't know. Do you need to monitor yourself constantly is what you're saying? Yeah, like if you're not ill, you know what I mean? Like if you have an illness or chronic illness or trouble sleeping or something, it's very good to like keep track of stuff and it can help find out a lot of stuff about yourself. But overall, I think I don't want to know Jack Dorsey's heart rate all the time.

You know? Right. I think that's overrated. Yes. Okay. It's probably the most relevant overrated I've ever brought to the table. Because I don't think it's awful, but I'm like, meh. Yeah, well, I think it's for people.

If you like that data, fine. But like, are we going to live for 50 years longer? Yeah. I don't want Jack Dorsey to live for 50 years longer. I want him to die at a normal time. Is his hair all long and shit right now too? Is that the photo I saw? I don't, I don't know.

I didn't see that. Okay. I thought I saw a photo of him looking hippie, hippie, crunchy. Like in 10 days, his hair just grew to like shoulder length, you know,

from the strength of his meditation. Oh no, I think he's all right. I just heard somebody say like, well, I actually think Jack Dorsey is a pretty thoughtful guy. Like of all the tech people, like tech entrepreneurs and founders, I think he's the most, you know, woke and he's into mindfulness. He just went on a retreat.

And now this has totally erased all of that for me. Yeah, he wore his Apple watch and his aura ring that measures your sleep and stuff the whole time he was at the meditation retreat, which was like, it's like in an ashram or something. Right. You're not allowed to have a cell phone. You're supposed to be in silent meditation

for like hours and hours a day. And he was like, I'm gonna keep my Apple Watch on. Yeah, he's like, well, hold on, dude. I need to check my mentions. Yeah, he was like, oh, they were in airplane mode. Yeah.

Oh, okay. They were in airplane mode. That's how I knew I was really peaceful because my mentions were blowing up and my heart rate was was like, they were in airplane mode. Oh, okay. They were in airplane mode. That's how I knew I was really peaceful, because my mentions were blowing up, and my heart was just like, fucking flat, dude. I was chill. He looks like fucking Hugh Laurie playing a shitty version of Jack Dorsey. I would love to see a movie about Twitter starring Hugh Laurie. I'll watch Hugh Laurie.

It kind of looks like Hugh Laurie with a fake beard. Yeah, he looks like a pug Hugh Laurie. All right, well. I like Hugh Laurie. Oh, yeah. Shout out to him. And Stevie Fry. He, he looks like a pug Hugh Laurie. All right, well. I like Hugh Laurie. Oh, yeah. Shout out to him. And Stephen Fry. Incredible, incredible actor.

He's Hugh Daddy. Hugh Daddy. He's Hugh Laurie Daddy. Daddy House. Yes. Daddy House Daddy. I like that. What is something you think is underrated?

You know, having any sort of privacy with your information online. Totally underrated. If you're still into privacy move on everyone knows where you are all the time it's chill companies buying and selling your data get used to it you know what i mean everyone's poly now everyone's got each other's information you know if you got a smartphone just accept that you have no privacy anymore you have a tracking device yeah you have a tracking device like you know this is a thing that like what have how long have hippies been saying this like 30 years you know you have to walk around with a

gps tracking device i mean yeah it's true you know what i mean what i don't get is people that are learning now and very surprised that companies that track their locations buy and sell that information because it's like what else did you think they were doing well because i think a lot of people didn't have the... Why did people trust tech so much? It's abstract what the business model was, right? I guess so. Because they just thought it was like, yeah, Google's free.

Gmail's free. Yeah. Because that's just like what it is. It's free. And they don't be like, yeah, how do you sustain that? Yeah, okay, so Gmail is free and then the guys that run it are billionaires. Where does the money come in? Right.

There is a disconnect there. I thought they were just rich people who were trying to do me a solid with my email. I think that's really what a lot of people think. No, I'm for real. They're like, they're trying to help the world and me by giving me an email service. Right, it wasn't until I had people

who were working for those companies that it could break down for me how it worked. I was like, oh, right. It's not like AOL, I used to pay a monthly fee and that's why I got my shit. Yeah, that's why you got my shit. Yeah. Now it's like. That's why you got those sweet message boards.

Yeah. Now they just lure you in so they can be like, because we just want to package your data. Yeah. And sometimes they ask you if they can like get your location and sometimes they don't. Yeah. But I kind of just assume they're always doing it because they have the ability. Right. You know, and there's like, there's many companies that track your location and don't ask you,

even though that's like pretty illegal. But the problem is none of this is illegal right now. It's really all very above board because we don't have any regulation about it. Yeah, because we're like, ah, as we'll talk about later, a lot of people are— It just didn't exist. We never had to fucking deal with this anymore, or before, rather. But there's a I know there's a senator, I believe, from Oregon who's who's trying to introduce like a maybe a bundle of bills or maybe just one bill about regulating, you know, personal data. And he's it's in the works right now.

Scott. Scott, something I want to say. Scott Merkley. Scott, Oregon. Scott, Portland, Portland. Scott Salem. Yeah. Either way, I agree. uh scott salem yeah either way there's some senators from from oregon trying to like because there just is no legislation about this because it was never an issue before and then obviously tech has an interest in keeping it very deregulated don't make it hot for us yes they spend a lot of money lobbying for that exact purpose be like hey focus on uh cambridge analytica yeah like you know people everyone everyone knows Zuck is going to run.

You know, Zuck is going to run maybe 2020, maybe 2024. Like, we don't really know, but that's why. It's not because he's so good at people and relating to people and people. You know, he doesn't, he's not a statesman. He doesn't have to do a lot of coke if he's going to come off as a human in any kind of interaction. He's like, I don't know. But even then, I can't imagine what geeked up Zuckerberg. Can you imagine him giving a speech?

Yeah, like, yeah, so, I mean, he's already so anxious. Like, oh, God, I'm panicking watching you. Yeah, he's a fucking programmer. Like, he looks like a programmer and he sounds like a programmer. And looks like a program. Yeah. Yes. But I agree.

We talked about this even yesterday that, you know, it's a $21 billion industry right now already, the selling of your location. But at the same time, they're not really connecting it to you personally. It's just they're interested in the patterns. They're just viewing you as a point of data, basically. But, like, you're a point of data that goes from one place to another every – you know what I mean? Like, I don't have – like, when I use Google Maps, you know how you have a option to set your home address right like i don't use that you know but i know google knows where i live because it's like where do i go every night you know they know my fucking address yeah right exactly and yeah they i i'm more jealous

than anything because i want to know like all the shit that they know about like humans and how we actually behave you should uh work for an advertising company yeah they they shit that they know about like humans and how we actually behave you should uh work for an advertising company yeah they they do that they ping you when you go by a billboard like if you have a certain kind of phone and a gps tracker um advertising companies that have a billboard will be able to ping you and and see when you're near the billboard and then they can see where you can go after that right and how much later you buy their product if you stay within a certain radius and they can see how it affects your travel patterns and your shopping patterns. And like, you know, who wants that?

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Do you guys want that? No, definitely. Do you think that's cool? Do you think it's fine? Because I think some people think it's fine and I really don't.

I feel like I'd rather have my privacy than arm companies with more like aggressive data to sell me shit. Like I don't see where the benefit is for them to know all of those sort of. Because it makes it easier for them to sell you things. Right, exactly. And it makes them money. It's the profit motive, baby. It's America. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like if it's a binary choice, I'm like, well, I don't know. Fuck that. I don't have fucking privacy. What's more important, like the ability of a corporation to like, you know, expand their profit or your ability to walk down a street and not have a company know where you're going. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

You know, look, if you want to sell me something, just put Cardi B in a commercial. Yeah. If you want to sell me something, you know, get a guy on the street, get him to give me a flyer. Yeah. Or one of those inflatable guys with the arms that go crazy. I'm like, oh, what's going on? Let's go back to old school advertising.

What's up with that oil lube change center? If I could find a way to- Show me a big wiggly guy. If I could find a way to work in advertising and not kill myself, I would do it. But I just don't think there's a possible way for me to do that. You'd be very rich and dead. Right. Yeah.

Those are the problems. Trade off. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Sometimes people say, oh, Riverdale, the sexy Archie show on The CW. That show is mere trash and has no political overtones. Well, I say those people don't know what they're talking about because I now have a second podcast. That's right.

I have a second podcast, and it's only about Riverdale and how it's communist. Oh, really? It's called DSA Riverdale? i saw i got that twitter account you got that twitter account at dsa underscore riverdale uh we post maybe like once a month this is a low-key podcast but riverdale is extremely woke there's a lot of political themes in riverdale season one season two season three season three right now crazy really Oh, the whole thing is about how the town of Riverdale is being taken over by this rapacious capitalist, Hiram Lodge, Veronica's dad.

Okay. And then like Jughead represents the poor who are in a gang and they're constantly getting like Riverdale gets gentrified. The South side of Riverdale gets gentrified in season two because Hiram Lodge, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, wants to build a private prison there.

Ah. You see what I mean? Hiram. They got a very clear perspective. And, you know, then we also just like to talk about who's hot on the show. Who's in that fucking writer's room? I mean, you know, some people I'd like to meet. Yeah, right?

Yeah. And so we got a little bit of lash back, backlash, flashback about our show because people got mad at us on Twitter for associating the sexualization of minors with class struggle. It was a complaint that we got, which I take seriously, but it's ridiculous because they're not minors. The actors themselves. The actors themselves are not minors. They're not teens. The show is not really about teens. Yeah, it's just very weird when you're like, oh, they're in high school.

Well, yeah, they're supposed to be in high school. Like you never see them in class. And also, yeah, all the actors are like in their 20s. So I don't feel bad about it. But but some people do. You're also doing it for being too horny. Humor jokes. We're doing it for humor jokes and fun.

But also like the show is deeply sexual. Like, yeah. Have you ever seen Riverdale? No, yeah. The one time I popped in, the student has sex with one of the teachers and the parents are like, you should just get out of town. And I'm like, I'm sorry, that's how they handle shit in Riverdale. Cool. It is a hotbed.

Hotbed of sin and revolutionary activity. There we go. Are you saying that the community operates on socialist along socialist ideals or just that they like hide socialist ideas in it? Some of the main characters in the show explicitly fight for socialist ideals. And also in season two,

Archie becomes a fascist and starts like a terrorist group. And then by the end of the season, he has a change of heart and he becomes anti-fascist. But like, I still don't really, I don't trust Archie. Archie goes to prison. He has an experience in prison that makes him rethink his trust of the cops and the system. Wow.

It's a global show. Just like the comics. Just like the comics. All right, guys, let's talk about the most Googled foods of 2018. And we have brought in our special keto correspondent, super producer Ana Hosnier. Hi. Are you keto?

Wow, listen to that energy from that keto diet. See, she's fucking vibrating right now. She's hovering. Well, the reason we bring her in is because when you look at the most Googled food of this year, five of the fucking entries are keto recipes. So keto pancakes, keto cheesecake, keto chili, keto brownies, amongst the others. Cheeto cookies would be better, but it's actually keto cookies. But yeah, it just shows you the power, the strength of the keto craze.

I've been swept up in the keto wave. I'm not afraid to do it. Are you keto wave too? I am not, but my roommate was keto for a while, and I just, through osmosis, started eating a lot less bread. Yeah. Now I know what's keto and what isn't, and I know what it is. I'm not keto. I didn't have a need or desire to lose quite a large amount of weight,

but yeah, it's making its way through all our brains. Yeah, my dad was on three different kinds of it this year. I tried it for three weeks. Three keto's. Three keto's, three dole. Yeah, so you just said that you had made keto pancakes this weekend, did you not, Anna? Yes, I made keto pancakes this weekend.

I've made keto cheesecake, which I brought in and you guys all pretended to like it. I did like it. No, they were delicious. Yeah. No, they were good. There's some face humor on this podcast. It's so easy to fuck with her. I've made keto cookie, chocolate chip keto cookies.

I've made keto lava cakes. What do you use for flour? I use almond flour. Nice. I also use like coconut flour. So this is like no carbs? Is that the keto philosophy? Correct.

It's all fat. Yeah. Very little sugar too. Yeah, very, very little sugar. High fat, moderate protein, low carb. But that keto cheesecake was sweet. What was so sweet? Mung fruit.

I use- I said mung. Mung. For the keto cheesecake, I use the Swerve sugar, which is like fake sugar. It's the fake sugar- Lamborghini Mercenar. Swerve. Taking the world.

You got to go buy- You got to go buy, you got to go spend most of your life savings on this stuff because it's very expensive and they only sell it at like health food stores. Okay. Right. Yeah. I feel like keto is expensive.

I'm going to go and swerve past that. I feel like this is a good time. I need a raise. Yeah. I know. I saw you ordering that bread. I can't feed myself. 20 bucks a loaf for keto bread.

Yeah. Low carb bread. Look, it's not great, but it does the job of you thinking you order that bread. I can't feed myself. It's like 20 bucks a loaf for keto bread. Yeah. Well, low carb bread, look, it's not great, but it does the job of you thinking you're eating bread. Yeah. It's just you need something to put things between. You toast your keto bagels here in the office and sometimes I smell them and I'm like. Yeah. And you're like, is someone using whiteout?

Well, the other things on this list were very interesting too. I feel like we're not treating ourselves very well as a species because most of these are like... When have we ever? Right. But these are like it's... Okay. So like romaine lettuce, you know that was because of the recall. That's not because everybody needed a romaine recipe. Right. How do I cook romaine lettuce?

CBD gummies. So we're treating ourselves well there. Love gummies. Everybody loves... But this was the year for CBD. You know what I love now? CBD? CBD? Boys to Men, ABC, CBD.

The gummy thing is cool. I like that there's just a lot of vegan gum. I always felt a little weird about eating gelatin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not vegan, but like gelatin's a little.

Bone goo? I'd rather, it's bone goo. I'd rather not. And now there's vegan gummies everywhere, which I think is great. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We've made a lot of advances in vegan sciences and vegan edibles people want to get that CBD wave and the other ones necco wafers I'm surprised because we talked about

how that shit should have just been thrown on the fucking trash heap of history it's so bad that's what I'm talking about and then gochujang is pretty good but

overrated necco wafers underrated nilla wafers oh I love nilla wafers for sure nilla wafers oh i love nilla wafers for sure nilla wafers are like currency in my preschool i remember as a kid with bananas they're coin shaped and everything yeah well the thing with gochujang i wonder if that had to do what is gochujang it's the korean uh spice paste like a foundation for all like korean spicy it's like pepper paste yeah and that was mentioned in that woman's really tired obituary about her potato salad or whatever the fuck. Remember the woman?

She was like, millennials are ruining mayonnaise. That's what it was. The pro-mayonnaise thing. She's like, and now people want gochujang or whatever. Right. But I think this was just a hot year for Korean fusion. Yeah, for sure. Oh, and a cold year for mayonnaise.

Yes. Cold year. Yeah, mayonnaise is number 576. Oh, boy. Unicorn cake was the number one searched thing, which- That's Instagram, baby. Yeah. The power of Insta.

Oh, yeah. It's just because it was like cake with a horn on it? No, no. It's rainbow cake. Right. But it was all about the visual of it rather than like this was a thing to eat. Everyone's just obsessed with like, you can make this little cake look like a unicorn. Look it's pretty. Unicorn. I say uniform.

Yeah people want to eat things that look good and don't taste good I find. Yeah. All those like pastries and stuff I'm like you know this doesn't taste it's kind of dry because you've got to make a real you have to make a thick cake. Yeah it has to be very rigid. It has to be very rigid. I'm not a fondant fan either. Nope nope nope nope nope.

Good for sculpting, bad for eating. Yeah. Oh, okay. So I see the inside of the unicorn cake looks like a unicorn frap from Starbucks. Oh, God. Okay, sure. It looks like Kashi 69's hair.

It's like blue. It's like cotton candy colors, like blue and pink and white and all that. Yeah. That was a 2017 thing. Basically, Super Producer Ana Hosnia, the way to break the internet, come up with a keto unicorn cake.

Oh, shit. With CBD in it. There we go. We're on the same page. That wouldn't be too hard. I want some CBD in my go-to jang. You can imagine. You just need to get like,

you could make frosting from like Swerve confectioner sugar. Holy shit. With food coloring. And then you can make the cake out of either almond flour or coconut flour.

You use the same recipe as a cake but you just replace those certain items with the replaceable. Take all the wheat in your diet and replace it with nuts.

Guys, her eyes are closed as she says this and she was just running her fingers through the air like she was seeing the matrix. Her eyes just went all white and then you would use the sugar.

That's actually the thing. Once you do and start making enough keto things you immediately can see how to make the keto version of everything. Yeah, it's like the gift of the woman seeing the math in the air. Right, right, right. It's just keto-ing. She's going into a keto fugue. And then real quick, Whole Foods is poisoning you through those little brown boxes that you put their hot bar food into.

Wait, really? Yeah. What's in there? BPA? Somebody did a test on all grocery chains in America and said that Whole Foods ranked by far the worst for chemicals it uses in packaging its popular hot food bar. They found high levels of fluorine or fluorine in five of the 17 items tested at Whole Foods, four of which were containers for its salad and hot food.

Got to keep those bodily essences pure. These are the ones that are like the super biodegradable, compostable little box. I don't think so. No, those are the ones that are cardboard, but on the inside it looks waxed. Yeah. I think that's the issue. That plastic coating on the inside. I hate when that shit gets stuck in my teeth.

So they're really not compostable and they're not really biodegradable because of that. I fell for it again. Yep. I fell for it again. Yeah, mate. Sorry. Also, as Miles said, not very digestible. Yeah.

No, for real, it does get stuck in my teeth. I'm glad to know that. It is plastic, and I should not eat that. Yes. Yeah, it's really a crucible of the compostable packaging industry is that everything that's compostable, when it gets hot, it falls apart. Right. So that's why the compostable cups, you can only put cold drinks in because for something

to be compostable, it has to break down and the heat of a compost pile helps it break down. Break down. Underrated composting. I'm heavy into it now. I got a big soil saver. Oh boy. I love to talk about pH levels.

I want to get all the tools. When compost is going right, it should be so hot that if you put your hand in it, you burn your hand. Really? It's crazy. Oh shit.

From all that entropic breakdown? Yeah. All right. We're going to take a moment to think about that. And we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017

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Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like a recent episode with Latin Grammy winner, podcast host, and TV personality, Chiquis, about making a name for herself as the eldest daughter of beloved singer Jenny Rivera. I'm not afraid. And I think that that's why I've been able to kind of do my own thing and not necessarily stay in my mom's shadow, because I'm not afraid of stepping out of my comfort zone and shaking things up a little bit,

because that's the only way I feel that you're going to make history. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I wanted to take a quick moment to look at the 2020 Democratic field, because specifically the Beto versus Bernie debate that is now sort of bubbling to the surface. Some of the people on the... Don't forget Biden. Yeah. It's Beto versus Bernie.

I think people just have a biden is like a fixed like a known quantity and then like mayonnaise right and then bedo is the go-to jang right bedo is the go-to jang mix and then he is miracle whip right well so you know i heard somebody talking about how bernie gets like harshly criticizedly criticized for not having very woke politics on race. And I started doing research into that. And it seems like people don't really know where to come down on Bernie and how he feels about race. Well, he's had gaffes, right? So on Super Tuesday, when he got blown out by Hillary, like it was almost like there was no effort to reach out to black women who are going to be a

Democratic candidate. You need that. And there was very little effort to court that voting block. And he said things here and there. But, you know, as criminal justice, things do address those kinds of things. He's just not a very vocally like I think the issue is he doesn't say enough out vocally that people go, oh, I see him vibing with people of color. Now, in the last year, he's done a lot to, I think, change that. But I think a lot of the criticism comes from, I think, sort of the lack of interest, and from Hillary, too, from just trying to better understand the black vote. Kind of the two ends of the spectrum on you know white democrats trying to appeal to uh voters of color is on the one hand you know you've got bernie who just doesn't

really talk about it right but he talks about policies that affect class right which is very influenced like race and class are are deeply intertwined and then on the other end of the spectrum you've got hillary clinton uh telling you that she's your abuela, you know. Right. Which, does that help her? I have hot sauce in my bag, Swag. So authentic. I've got hot sauce in my bag.

What kind? Texas pizza? Oh, come on, get that shit out. It's not Crystal. I had slaves in Arkansas. Yeah. Oh, did you? She did. Yeah. I mean, so Sanders in 2016 said something about like how we need to move beyond identity politics to focus on class, which I get.

Sounds like something a white guy would say. That makes me very, very nervous. Yeah, exactly. It's a big debate right now. Yeah. Because people are talking about identity politics like it's meaningless, which I think is upsetting. But at the same time, identity politics are not the whole sum of all politics. I feel like it's used by certain white liberals to suggest that it's basically their discomfort with focusing on racial issues.

Yeah, it's a euphemismism for do you have to talk about being black all the time right but meanwhile like trump's entire platform is identity politics like yeah and just in the reverse it's identifying yourself as white and identifying people of color and the lgbtq community as other and yeah is identity politics, but it doesn't get identified as such. Right. Identity politics is a term reserved for people with marginalized identities who won't shut up about it. Right. Exactly. Better definition. Right. Yeah. So when you look to, I think what that move on poll, that straw poll is a thing that got everybody talking about sort of like, oh, let's, according to these people, it's just about people who support for members

if they ended up becoming political candidates. Who's polling the best of the Democrats. 28% was someone else don't know slash other. 15% Beto. 14.9% Biden. 13.1% Bernie. 10% Kamala Harris. 6.4% Elizabeth Warren.

And then on and on and on. And Cory Booker at the very bottom at 2.6. That's where he belongs. Yeah, I mean, good luck to you, Cory. So I'm very curious to know what's going on because we know Beto has been talking to Obama. He's been talking to Al Sharpton and Andrew Gillum. The Andrew Gillum thing is very interesting to me that they're talking. What they're talking about, what he is trying to do if he's trying to position himself to be

more aggressively courting people of color as part of his voting bloc or whatever. Or his potential cabinet, potential running mate. Yeah, that would be interesting. But yeah, I don't know. We will see. I just know that Joe Biden, come on now.

Unless he just has a radical change where he's like completely progressive and like updates his politics to the moment. He got the rose emoji in his display name. Right. Which I just don't see happening. Like I think he is the. Joe Biden needs a pepper in his display name. Too spicy. Yeah, too spicy.

He's the choice for people who are like, we just need to do Obama again. The exact same thing. Remember Obama? That was great, right? Let's do it again but without the identity politics. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's very, you know, old. Oh God, the thought of Joe Biden

running is just making me feel heavy. Heavy and bored. Yeah, and also worried because I feel like enough people- It's not going to work. No. Who don't know, who aren't engaged enough politically will be like, I don't see what the problem is with Joe Biden. Do you remember when Parks and Rec had Joe Biden on a bunch of episodes and the whole

thing with Amy Poehler's character was that she was way into Joe Biden? Even then, I was like, this isn't working for me. Right. He does not have a lot of charm as a statesman. Well, I don't know. The way he's intoxicating to white women, middle-aged white women. Remember that photo of him with a, he's got the biker's like girlfriend on his lap. And he's like whispering in her ear.

And the two biker dudes are like this motherfucker. And she's like, Joe. This slick motherfucker. Yeah, it's so funny. Oh my God. And I'm like, yo, Joe Biden, he's just a player. He's kryptonite to white women. Yeah.

But I just don't see the appeal. I probably couldn't pick him out of a lineup. They had him on the show, and I was like, I wonder if this is the real Joe Biden. His smile will blind you. Them shits are too, them teeth are so white. So white, so large. Yeah. He is central casting president.

Yes, he is. From a 90s movie. Yeah. Just what is. Like, from a 90s movie. Like, just what a president looks like in a 90s movie. He's not even an action movie president. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's like a movie about journalism president. Yeah. And that president always ends up being the bad guy. Like, even though he comes off as very positive.

In the whole time. Yeah. I think, like, president from the RoboCop universe, maybe. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he inspires confidence in the populace, maybe. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he inspires confidence in the populace, but then he's secretly building a robot cop. Yeah, exactly. I feel like there's sort of frustration from all sides. People on the far left and democratic socialists are concerned that Bernie is being criticized for his racial views. is being criticized for his racial views.

And then people who are like more center left are concerned that people on the far left are criticizing Beto. And I think we need to just be okay with everybody being criticized until we have a candidate. Yeah, that's fine. And like just for the news to take its course. Why do people want a perfect,

I mean, I guess, why do people want a perfect candidate is a dumb question. Because their world is so imperfect. Why do people keep expecting a perfect candidate? I mean, I guess, why do people want a perfect candidate? It's a dumb question. Because our world is so imperfect. Why do people keep expecting a perfect candidate? You know what I mean? Especially in this system we have. You're not coming out of here fucking unscathed.

It's a really interesting time, I think, now. And people are starting to talk about class now. And a big part of that is Bernie. Bernie was really mainstreamed talking about the working class again in a way that the Democrats really haven't for a long time. And they certainly haven't explicitly for a long time talked about raising up the working class, even using the terms working class families. But where does the Democrats money come from? It doesn't come from working class families. Maybe it did 50 years ago, but it doesn't anymore because their policies

have not really helped working class people. I mean, everybody knows that the rich have gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer and the class gap has just widened

and widened and widened. So anything that either party has been trying to do to help the working class is obviously not fucking working. So, but now we're coming up

on this weird sort of framing and I do believe this is like, it is being framed as this in order to weaken it. This idea that class politics and a class-based analysis of politics and economy are at odds with a race-based analysis or with a gender-based analysis, the identity politics analysis, when in fact it's just another factor and it's all intersectional. Yeah, absolutely. It's not an either or thing. But they're being pitted against each other. And this is something that honestly, Republicans have been doing since the 30s to, you know, destroy any kind of unionization of marginalized groups in the working class. And it's just kind of the same thing over again.

But it's very weird to see well the smoke bombing isn't is slowly starting to not work as much as it used to like where they'd obscure be like okay now y'all fight yeah yeah we'll start to be like well hold up man we we're both fucking poor yeah and it's been like so many years of them doing this and we're like wait a second that didn't work and that didn't work and that didn't work and like the only thing that worked was really radical shit that then people got murdered by the FBI for when it got too far. They were like, okay, we'll give civil rights. Okay, fine. Shit ton of people died.

Fine. You can vote now. Wait, y'all teaming up with poor white people? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Time to kill Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. That's the line is poor people teaming up. Yeah.

And that was the thing that made him very unpopular in the lead up to his death with white America was the idea of him. That's it. That's too far. You know, that's, that's crossing the line. Yeah.

And I think the media, black people. Okay. Poor people. No, no, no, no,

no, no, no. Yikes. Yeah. And I think the media is somewhat complicit in this. I think like we, we've talked before about how the Dean scream was somewhat.

That was perfect, man. That was sort of fabricated by the media to be a, like he did scream like that, but it was because he had noise. It sounded crazy because he had a noise canceling microphone. It sounded crazy because it was fucking crazy. But who cares? You know what I mean? He was hopped up.

But they made it a point. I don't think we even have to explain why he did it. Nobody even heard it in the room, though. Yeah, all of these things are really inflated. Yes. And I do think that the center media, the mainstream media, takes it upon themselves to protect

capitalism with this idea of electability. Like, well, Bernie Sanders just isn't electable. Yeah, like people are too stupid to vote in their own interest. I wonder when the left media will turn on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

though. Oh, wait, what's the left media? I mean, like the MSNBCs of the world, where they're sort of like... They've already turned on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. But not to, like, in the way where they're full-on trying... I mean, they buy into, like, the really stupid, vapid headlines of, like, oh, she messed up this thing or whatever.

But, you know, like, on Fox, they're in full-on, like, terror mode. Yeah, they're like, she's trying to... I'm talking about when they, like, they tear her the fuck down. Like, now they're just sort of being like, oh, well, she seems like a spirited young woman. They're more dismissive

right now. I think it's going to be when she starts implementing policy, really. And also, if she speaks more about Palestine, I think that's really going to be, because that's been what she's been torn down for the most on mainstream media that skews liberal, is being called anti-Semitic

for opposing Israel. Right. I think the one good thing with her that that skews liberal is being called anti-Semitic for opposing Israel. Right. I think the one good thing with her that will make it difficult for them to tear her down is she's got a Trump-like unflappableness on Twitter. She's just like, you're not fucking knocking me off my message. She's like, I'm a 29-year-old Twitter literate millennial. Get in my mentions and see what happens. Fuck around and find out.

You want to quote tweet me poorly? I'm going a thread like yeah yes i'm trying to thread this shit all right speaking of congress being and and the mainstream political elite being somewhat out of touch with the realities of our world uh the ceo of google visited the Hill on Tuesday where he faced a grilling. On the one hand, you know, hardline conservatives were performing for the cameras with their uninformed questioning around the conspiracy that Google is biased against conservative views and like screens, searches or conservative results. And then you had Democrats pressing for answers on all the data mining and just violations of privacy that we talked about a little bit earlier and the near monopoly they have, which is very dangerous and should be the only focus of this. But then there was also the dudes like Iowa Nazi Steve King, who just clearly didn't understand technology and treated it like when you go to an older relative's house and they're like, here, let me show you this thing. And it always turns into you being their tech support.

Yeah. You're a geek squad. My mom called me 10 times yesterday because the Uber app on her phone had disappeared. Yes. I still don't know. I think she deleted it by accident. No, my mom did the same thing. But then she said it's open or whatever.

I really have no, I still have no idea what happened. She put it in a folder. She put it in a folder. She probably long pressed it on the home screen, dragged it on another icon, that created a folder. She's a maniac for long pressing. She's always like, do I want to open this up? And then it's deleted.

It's gone. It's shaking now. Yeah, she goes, it's wiggling. I don't know what to do. Sorry, it's wiggling. All right, I'll come over. Anyways, let's hear. Five hour drive.

Steve King's highly informed questioning of the CEO of Google. I have a seven-year-old granddaughter who picked up her phone before the election. Why does she have a phone? And she's playing a little game what kind of language was used around that picture of her grandfather, but I would ask you how does that show up on a seven-year-old's iPhone who is playing a kid's game? Congressman, iPhone is made

by a different company and so, you know, I mean. It might have been an android. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. phone who's playing a kid's game. Congressman, iPhone is made by a different company and so, you know, I mean, it might have been an Android. It's just, it was a hand-me-down of some kind.

You know, I'm happy to follow up and understand the specifics. There may be an application which was being used, which had a notification, but I'm happy to understand it better and clarify it for you. Okay. Thank you for your testimony. He's just like, okay. I thought I would get him on that one. That guy has worked in tech support. You can tell.

Yeah. He's an engineer. Yeah, he's an engineer. He's like, okay, let's talk about this later so you don't embarrass yourself. I understand your concern, sir. I have a lot of tickets, though. And again, the whole thing of like, how is my granddaughter finding out I'm a racist Nazi taint scab?

Yeah. Also, like, what did it say? Was it like, Steve King is a cocksucker? Like, what ad is this? I mean, maybe, unless it was like a wonkhead headline. I can't imagine any, like, thing that had, like, an outright aggressive shit that he would be like, unless he really does take offense to the fact that people do point out

that he's a Nazi. I think he does. And he was like, unless he really does take offense to the fact that people do point out that he's a Nazi. I think he does. And he was like, how dare, I mean. But also like, why does your seven year old have a smartphone, man? Like, why does he use, there's kid protections. I'll tell you why, because the parents can't be bothered to entertain the kids or have them do shit on the phone. Oh, sorry, might've been an Android.

You don't even know if your kid has an iPhone or an Android, dude. What kind of grandpa are you? Yeah. Right. Also, it had to be a Nexus phone if he's going to answer directly as the head of Google. Not just some Android. That's just the operating system. Okay, next. Angry tech support guy, Miles, come in. Thank you. Next.

But no, that whole thing was for the olds, by the way. I didn't realize how old Steve King is. He's just like, what's happening? And a lot of people were just asking really weird things. Like another Democrat was like, how come when you search idiot, Trump's name comes up? And they're like, it's called gaming the algorithm and Reddit and people just, you know, you upvote this shit enough.

You can just change the algorithm. It's honestly terrifying how little every elected representative knows about basic internet. But the Steve King thing, I mean, clearly his granddaughter was not playing some kid's game. And then a web page just spontaneously opened and criticized her grandfather. She was Googling her grandfather plus taint scab. And she brought up a page that said he was a taint scab. And he was like, wait, well, let me see what you're looking at there. And then she made up a lie about how like the phone made her do it.

Yeah, well, you know, they were really going all in. They were pulling up all these like just debunked studies about how like it favors the left or whatever. And one person was like, how come when you searched the Republican tax bill, it talked about how it was really unfavorable to working people. Because that was the analysis of it in the media, but that shows you their blind spot is like, are they so up there? I mean, they must be so up their own ass too, that they're like, I don't, they also don't understand. Here's the thing. They don't understand that Google is not an objective search. Like Google is a search that points you to the pages that are visited the most. And then those pages exponentially get visited more.

And then they're number one in search results. Like Google is not an objective. The algorithm is not objective. It is not like neutral. You get search results tailored to the search results you click on. Right. So if you search yourself, oh, Steve King, I'm going to name search Steve King. First thing that comes up is Steve King is a fucking Nazi.

You click on that. You're like, who's calling me a Nazi? Boom. Google's going to give search Steve King. First thing that comes up is Steve King is a fucking Nazi. You click on that. You're like, who's calling me a Nazi? Boom. Google's going to give you that more. So like they're acting like Google is this, you know, like, but I asked God and God said my tax bill was bad. Google's not God. It's a product.

Right. Yeah. Those questions were so funny, though. There was another one about how they're just like, and this other bill, it was like lying about this thing. And it's like, it wasn't. It was giving you the analysis of like what trying to blow up the affordable care act was going to do or what these other things were going to do and they're like it's just so biased i can't believe this information is so free yeah right

all right we're gonna take another quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurarts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.

Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.

Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like a recent episode with Latin Grammy winner, podcast host, and TV personality

Chiquis about making a name for herself as the eldest daughter of beloved singer Jenny Rivera. I'm not afraid. And I think that that's why I've been able to kind of do my own thing and not necessarily stay in my mom's shadow because I'm not afraid of stepping out of my comfort zone and shaking things up a little bit because that's the only way I feel that you're going to make history. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the fallout from yesterday's immediately famous Oval Office meeting between Trump, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer continues. And apparently the president, you know, he went in thinking he was going to ambush them and he came out apparently just throwing his papers to the floor and complaining that he got ambushed.

Wah. This is my favorite shit. Wah. Because he was like bragging, oh, I got the votes. Nancy's like, well, pull up with the votes then. You don my favorite shit. Wah. Because he was bragging, oh, I got the votes. Nancy's like, well, pull up with the votes then. You don't got shit. Well, I need Chuck to. That's what I thought.

Sit back down. You pee sitting down now. So basically what happened was. Nancy Pelosi piss-doming Trump. Exactly. Yeah, so one thing was he threw his shit. Say thank you. Say thank you, Mr.

Say thank you. Exactly. I'm going to spit on your face then he basically went on to complain about how that was such an embarrassment he was really pissed off that chuck schumer wasn't even looking at him while he was just making jokes to the press because schumer was just sort of like going what about this asshole huh right that really got to fucking trump to the point that even like once the press left, like, OK, let's have our meeting. Like he couldn't he couldn't recover. And he was like, fuck this.

Like, yeah, I know when I'm being unrespected. Yeah. No, seriously. And one of the funniest things is like he got really mad at Mike Pence. He felt that Mike Pence when he powered down in front of everybody like that. He was like, you burned me, Pence. I think he's right, though. he was like,

you burned me Pence. I think he's right though. I think this is, this is in keeping with my theory that something happened with the revelations either that we know about or stuff we don't quite know yet because of all the redactions. But with the Mueller investigation and the Southern district of New York investigation, like last week's revelations that the Pence camp seems to have cooled a little

bit. Um, and yeah, Mike Pence definitely, the memes around what was going through his mind were a lot of fun, but also kind of unavoidable when you look at his performance. He just either choked or was like, I don't want anything. He almost looked like a spouse of an alcoholic who's at dinner and the spouse is drunk and they're just like, oh Jesus, just let this be over with. What do you mean I can't take leftovers from the Saucony Buffet?

I fucking paid for it. I'm going to take it home. Where's my food? We already ate, honey. Where is it? He was literally closing his eyes like fucking Luke Skywalker in the last Star Wars movie, trying to astrally project himself into another place. Like, please get me the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Just visualizing Hawaii. Yes. He's got his eyes. He's like, I'm somewhere else. Yeah. And then he said, they set me up. But the funny thing is in the Daily Beast, they report how Trump initially, this was supposed to be a no cameras behind closed door thing.

And at the zero hour was like, you know what? Let's bring the press in because I think I'm going to press him about the wall and see how they handle it. And then got his ass- I feel a big win coming on. Just flipped. Like, you fucking idiot. He loves it. You poor, poor idiot.

He can't say no to those cameras. I know. He lives for them. And then just gets, looks like a total ass. Like, he's supposed to be Mr. Reality TV and he just showed his ass so bad and somehow then did the worst thing he could do is be like, yeah, I'll own the shutdown. Yeah. Oh my God. At the same time. So I did read an analysis

of this on the Daily Beast, which obviously is not a conservative place where they, somebody was saying that they thought Trump actually won that in his like weird version of reality. Not just like he believes he won it but the people who he appeals to would think he won it and the idea is that while nancy and chuck were trying to they were like let's talk behind closed doors because political decorum he was like no let's do it right here and that does seem like i don't know political decorum is popular with the mainstream media, but for the people who vote for Trump and even just regular people, I feel like urging somebody to have the conversation behind closed doors is an immediate red flag.

Right. Well, I think the hit isn't necessarily, I don't think he gains from it being out in the open. I think the hit he takes is from openly owning a shutdown if it happens over the wall right and like that's the part that isn't a good look because we're used to him just having a hissy fit in public yeah Trump I think like throughout the campaign has always been like yeah I'll make Mexico pay for the wall yeah I'll do it yeah you know he's always that like yeah I'm gonna fucking do it I'm gonna do the thing that's unthinkable and now that you know he got sort of confronted about the shutdown. He was like, yeah, fuck it. You know, I don't care. And then all his constituency was like, we care. to do an unpopular thing to get it with the shutdown. Now, I think the place that the L is really going to come is when the shutdown actually happens,

if he really does force it. And then it's a complete fucking disaster and he still doesn't get his wall, then yeah, that's not going to be a good look for him. Well, there was a thing, I don't know how real it was, but there was some article saying that the wall was just merely a mnemonic device for him to talk about immigration. Oh, for sure. That's not what mnemonic means, but there was some article saying that the wall was just merely a mnemonic device for him to talk about immigration.

Oh, for sure. That it wasn't. That's not what mnemonic means, but okay. But yeah, that's what they were. They needed it as a concept, as a mnemonic to help the candidate remember. It's a synecdoche. Metaphorical. Synecdoche, New York.

It's a synecdoche, yes. Yeah. Is it? Thank you so much. It is a synecdoche, yes. I never knew what that meant. It's a synecdoche for immigration. Well, you just got an English major on your show, buddy.

Boom. Holy shit. So then, yeah, and then essentially he just took it literally and then his melted brain just turned it into the thing that it's like, say the wall so they know immigration. He's like, no, it's a literal wall that I want now. You're obsessed with the wall. Okay, whatever.

But the other thing is like you see. It's like he's like, someone's like, you got to ask for her hand in marriage. And he's literally like, I want your hand. I want the hand. And he cuts off her hand. Oh, my God. The hand is mine. I have the hand.

What do I do now, Steve? I have the hand. No, no, no. Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. Okay, first of all, bury the body. Why aren't you glad? Well, Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, John Kennedy, he was basically saying, if I were playing poker with the president,

and he was across the table from me, and he had demonstrated the face that he demonstrated in that meeting and I wasn't holding good cards, I'd fold because I don't think he's bluffing. I think he's prepared to shut down the government. That's a really long way to say, I don't think he's bluffing. Yeah. Right.

But it's a sort of like that you're starting to see also the weird sort of the sycophant comments steam in about like, they're like, yeah, he's digging in or whatever. It's like, yeah, I don't think it's as clear cut a win as the media has portrayed it or at least people who pay attention to the media

oh i don't even i don't think it's a don't get me wrong i don't think this is a policy win in any way this is merely just like a shit talking at lunch break when this is you know his whole campaign was i'm gonna build a wall and now he's like i'm building a wall and all his constituents are like great and then everyone who voted for him is like good and he's like i'm building a wall and they're like we're gonna shut down the government and he's like, I'm building a wall. And all his constituents are like, great. And then everyone who voted for him is like, good. And he's like, I'm building a wall. And they're like, we're going to shut down the government. And he was like, I don't care. I'm building a wall. Yeah. You know, he's like, you're going to shut down the government. He's like, I'm going to shut down. He just repeats what they said. And taxpayers are going to shut down the government. I shut down. Mexico is not paying for it. No. But I think apparently after

the cameras left, he insisted that Mexico was still paying for it to Chuck and Nancy. I'm excited to see how Mexico's new president is going to deal with this because he's, AMLO, baby. Yeah.

Manuel Lopez Obrador. I don't think, yeah, he might just be like, I don't know, I don't know her. He is like, I don't know her. He's pretty lefty.

Yeah. He's like, we're not fucking paying for this. I hope things improve in Tijuana for those caravan friends. Yeah. Jesus's like, we're not fucking paying for this. I hope things improve in Tijuana for those caravan friends. Yeah. Jesus. Because now they're trying to look for money to go back, essentially, too.

A lot of them were deported, were taken back. And then the ones that are remaining, they just have like, you know. No financial recourse. They have no financial recourse. They have no resources. A lot of people in the city don't want them there. You know, there are also racist people in Mexico. And they're like, fuck Hondurans or whatever right so uh yeah they're in a really

fucked up spot and a lot of them are the people that are left are people that like have kids and and are taking care of kids and you know to go back is a lot worse they're waiting for asylum there's people are just getting sick you know this is what happens when large groups of people live on the street for a while people start, and you have no infrastructure. People start getting really fucking sick. Yeah. That's why we have typhus in LA now. There's typhus now? There's typhus on Skid Row.

Mm, shit. That's not good. Nope. Well, speaking of not good. Low energy pivot. Yes, low energy. Michael Cohen. Oh, yes.

He is going to prison. Yeah. Michael Cohen is going to prison. My prediction is he will join a norteno gang in prison to survive yeah uh yeah i mean there's nothing really new he basically went up to the judge and was like hey i cooperated and also my his quote was my blind loyalty to president trump led me to the darkness uh but the judge was like, no, I'm sorry. You get three years. I don't care. Robert Mueller, he was like, well, he cooperated enough.

We'll recommend zero to six months. But where the Southern District of New York, in their dealings with him, they're like, yo, this man was not easy to work with. He wasn't being forthcoming with answers. And he fucked around and he found out. So he's going to do a little three-year stretch. So Mueller recommended that he be treated with leniency. But then the Southern District of New York was like, nah, fuck that. Yeah, because he pitched off all the New York state crimes to him.

Mueller kept it to like, everything I want to know about Russia, please tell me. And that's the thing. We still don't know what he said about what he told Robert Mueller. So it's not fair to assess what exactly he knows or doesn't know. But apparently when it came to his like financial crimes in New York, he was sort of like, I don't know. So yeah, that's what you get. You're going to do three years and go to jail now. Yeah. And then also Mike Flynn, he also filed some paperwork before his sentencing, basically outlining why he feels like he should do no time because he was a decorated service member of the armed forces. And he was very forthcoming with Robert Mueller. But the only thing that's really new about this thing that we found out was his lawyers are

arguing that when the FBI agents came to interview him the first time, when they're like, just so you know, we have you on tape talking to like Russian ambassadors about sanctions. And he was like, oh, he played stupid about it. He was saying that the FBI agents didn't warn him that it was a crime to lie to the FBI. So that so he can't really be held liable for that. Wow. He literally pulled the I'm sorry. I didn't know I couldn't do that.

About lying to the FBI. Because he's like, well, they came in on some real casual shit. Wait a second, wait a second. Are you telling me that I can't lie to the FBI? I can't lie to them. Oh, you're in so much trouble. Oh, no. And that is privilege

in a nutshell for you when you're like, well, they didn't tell me. Right. I didn't know. I didn't know the laws apply to me. You didn't say

that's what the rules were. Oh, what the heck? Isn't that the Dave Chappelle that, or... I'm sorry, I didn't know I could do that. Yeah, the speeding thing. Yeah, he's driving with his white friend and his white friend gets out of a ticket by saying sorry i didn't know i couldn't do that and weren't they

all fucked up too smoking weed it's like we're not gonna take it it's like when the cop pulled up uh that's amazing officer i didn't know i couldn't do that. But what Mike Flynn did is so bad. Like what he actually did was not just lying, but he undermined the sitting U.S. president by going around him speaking to an enemy. Hey, man, he didn't know he couldn't do that. It's such a huge crime. I was listening to this just kind of straightforward review of everything that he did from these like national security experts. Right.

And they were just like so just like out of breath just talking about like how insane what he did is like and that he's going to get off with like, it's essentially treason. It's the worst thing you can do as somebody who was supposed to be upholding like national security and like working, like swearing to protect the American people and swearing to help America before anyone or your own self-interest. And he was just like, nah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go talk to Russia and like secretly deal with them and then lie about it. It's almost as if public servants are not actually in it to help the public. I mean, some of them are, but the ones who make it to the top, apparently, especially the Republicans. It all depends on what your end game is as a person, right?

You can look at that and be like, I'm down for some influence peddling for a check. And other people are actually selfless servants. I work hard. I go home to my house at the end of the day. I peddle some influence. And I peddle some influence. I'm not afraid to say it. But also, you know what?

Why the fuck shouldn't I drive a Maybach? You know what I mean? Un Maybach. Yeah. Thank you so much. But yeah, so we'll see what happens to him. Because also, you know, those sentencing memos are like when the prosecutors are like, yeah, maybe this is the recommendations. The judge doesn't necessarily have to adhere to that.

The judge can look at everything and be like, okay, that's what you think, but I think it should be this. But they do have to sort of explain why that works, but it doesn't always necessarily mean what they recommend is what's going to happen. I think that kind of sucks. What? Like that system. Right. The system of a judge getting to decide over i mean isn't the point of our jury of peers that they're the ones that get to decide well for sentencing i think

you know i know i'm just saying like ideologically it doesn't make a ton of sense to me yeah you know depending on if this person did actually give something of value to further the cause of the justice system then yeah we can figure out a way to level that out. But yeah. And then just also going on in this investigation, we mentioned before that Maria Butina is going to cooperate, but just the details of what she had access to. So there's this dude, Paul Erickson, who's a GOP operative. And it was like the dude she was like sleeping with. Yeah, she was sleeping with him. Yeah. And he was like an NRA spokesperson, a GOP operative.

And one of the pieces of information that came out through investigating her was an email from Paul Erickson saying basically him just bragging about doing covert agent stuff. I'm just going to read the email. Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns, Erickson wrote in an October 2016 email to an acquaintance that was later obtained by the FBI, I've been involved in securing a very private line of communication between the Kremlin and key unnamed political party leaders through, of all conduits, the redacted unnamed gun rights organization. Keep Republican leaders through, of all conduits, the NRA. I think that's how, if we're going to do a Mad Libs. Again, like, do old people not understand how the internet works?

No. They really don't. He was like, I'm going to write an email about very private things I've been doing and name them. These people were so bad at spying. They were really shitty spies. There was a fucking time about the note they found. The FBI raided his house. So they raided his house.

And one of the things was the Kremlin was trying to get to him via a number of different ways. Maria Butina. And also we find out a job offer because when they raided his house, he had just a post-it note with the question written, how to respond to FSB offer of employment? Question mark. It's like you wrote it as an expositional device. Yeah. Right. That's the Russian equivalent of the CIA. It's what you would see on the wall of an establishing shot when you're like, you're in the character's house. Right. That's the Russian equivalent of the CIA. It's what you would see

on the wall of an establishing shot when you're like, you're in the character's house and you're like, what's he dealing with now? What offers of employment from international secret agencies

is he getting? Yeah. I mean, it's like, it might as well have been a handwritten note that it's like, want to do treason with me?

Yes or no? Check a box, sign FSB, which is the Russian version of the CIA. Yes. So, I don't know. I mean, everyone's box, sign FSB, which is the Russian version of the CIA. Yes. So, I don't know.

I mean, everyone's so stupid. You know, I think Russians thought Americans were smarter than they were. No, they really weren't. And Americans, I think they're realizing, these people are fucking dumb as shit. Right. Especially when you're greedy. I mean, shit happens. They were like, hey, you want to collude with us on some stuff? You want to do some collusion?

You down to lewd? You down to collude? Down to lewd? And then the Americans fucked it up so bad that I think the Russians They were like, hey, you want to collude with us on some stuff? You want to do some collusion? You down to collude? Down to collude. And then the Americans fucked it up so bad that I think the Russians are now like, ugh, I wish I had never colluded. They're like, all right, hey, what's up, Snapchat game? I'm doing a poll real quick. Should I collude with Russia? Just vote in my poll right now and let me know.

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Goku Weed Smoke is a follower of mine who's the most I enjoy. Goku and his memes? No, it's just a person's account. I don't know, man. I'm not on the damn social media anymore. Dude, all good, man. Hey, Goku Weed Smoke. You just got a sick plug right there.

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