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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 174, episode four of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is thursday march 4 2021 march the 4th be with you uh my name is jack o'brien aka mountain dew do do do do mountain dew do do do do uh that is Do-do-do-do, Mountain Dew. Do-do-do-do. That is courtesy of Semi-Charmed Kind of Life by Third Eye Blind and Rob Cunningham, Math Demigod. Hell yeah. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, North Hollywood's very own Blazin' Legend, Hideo Noho.

And also, if you're a fan of Japanese J-pop The member Founding member of GreyKB48 And that one Comes from Prodigious Melon

Who liked a tweet From two years ago It popped up in my notifications And I said You know what I'm gonna take that That's a good way to remind me But yes

Thank you to Prodigious At Prodigious Melon On Twitter For the Grey KB blessing. And you truly are Hideo Noho. You were before before we started recording. You were talking to Justin, one of the new producers on the show.

And he he told you what street he on, and you described the graffiti nearby. Yes. In relation to a tire place that has iconic Joker graffiti. And they honor the Heath Ledger and Jared Leto Jokers. And they newly put up a Joaquin, I think, in the last year, maybe. Wow, Jared Leto. Jared Leto as Joker seemed like it was going to be a thing and then i feel like it just kind of went away it just looked cooler than i think it was in practice right like i think

we liked the idea because the pictures were like oh yeah that looks wild and then people just didn't for whatever reason and he he went heavy on the uh like method behind the scenes, uh, dark shit. I think he, uh, basically he started sexually harassing people on the movie, uh, because he was so in character as Joker. I think he sent like a, a used condom or something to somebody. Um,

yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh man. That's just art, baby. You know what I mean? Uh,

anyways, enough fucking around miles this is uh this is a very special episode uh as they always are when we are joined in our third seat by the legend the hilarious the brilliant mr chris crofton Chris Crofton! Wow. Wow, wow. I agree with all that stuff. I told you to say that. How are you, Cold Brew King? I was holding up a cue card on Zoom for Jack to read that said how brilliant I was.

I'm doing all right. You know, there's a pandemic yep and uh i've been like you know hiking around a bunch still and uh i took a couple trips across the country to nashville to visit my family uh like my mom and dad and and uh and i've been watching youtube you know and drinking cold brew and uh and writing poetry on uh twitter and um that's been a real great thing and daily zeitgeist people have been a big part of that big part of that like i mean i've got such a great group on on twitter who request poems for me on this thing called poetry window um and uh i

mean people throw topics at me and i throw them back poems and so many of those people are people who found out about me from daily zeitgeist so i'm so grateful and that has really been one of the main things that's kept me i mean i said that in cold brew that and enough cold brew that i can't sleep ever um when you say this thing called poetry window you just tweet the poetry window is open and people send you stuff to write poetry about right yeah i have a twitter called uh at the crofton show and like usually once a day not every day but like pretty often almost every day i uh i will say poetry windows open and i have this fictional friend named larry who works with me at the poetry window and it's kind of like a diner

and and larry for some reason is into q anon and also knows about guided by voices so it's a really confusing uh and people have been like is larry real oh which makes me very proud and sad for those people. And anyway, Larry and me cook up poems every day. And it's just been great. And I've gotten actually kind of, well, I don't know, half decent at writing poetry by mistake. I mean, it started out as just something to do, and I've written hundreds and hundreds of these things now.

Yeah. The poet laureate of Twitter. Yeah. The Poet Laureate of Twitter. Yeah, that's like the worst. That's the worst. You're rocking a pirate's hat, which I'm assuming the P is for poetry. The Poet Laureate of 4chan. This is the pirate's hat. Yeah, I'm wearing a pirate's hat.

I'll tell a quick funny story just for the heck of it i went to the mall to get this hat near here i live in monrovia and i went to this mall in arcadia and i was just gonna get a i needed a hat because i'm um pale and and uh balding balding uh i'm completely bald still so yeah I mean, bald guys are always balding to them. Everyone else is like. It's too final. Yeah, you're not balding, buddy. Unless that shit on the sides is falling out.

So I went to this store and I was just, I got a Pirates hat because I like Public Enemy about 30 years ago. I'm like, I can't say that in the store. Because I'm like, who? So I was like, they were like, you know, and my mom went to university of Pittsburgh.

So I was like, I guess I'll get a pirate's hat. I had a pirate's hat in college, whatever. I needed a hat. So I went into the sports store, which is my first mistake. I should have just gone like ordered it online. I went in,

in person to a sports store. Yeah. I was like, Oh, pirates, huh? You know, and there was the moment that's the crossroads right

right you know do you say do you pretend or do you just say you don't know so i said yeah pirates which was just a crazy decision and then right and then you know all the shit i knew that would happen happened right away he's like oh you wow, they're this season they're doing. And I'm like, yeah, you know, but I don't really pay attention to seasons. I'm more of a fan of the historic arc of the franchise. I'm more a fan of, you know, baseball. Right. Period.

I don't really divide it up. I mean, anyway, the worst thing was he said you can get your favorite player this this is like he was like you can get your favorite player embroidered on this thing for 12 and i was like you know and that's in the punchline of that is like and that's why i have refrigerator perry written on the side of my fire attack that's why i have lebron james on the side of my pirates hat what a sports nut yeah anyway it was really embarrassing so i don't know why it was like a compulsion though you want to bond with people so i was like yeah i love the pirates and then it went south right away that's like when i see people wearing arsenal gear and i'm like oh shit all right arsenal like what's up like yeah

what you think and they're like sometimes people be like oh yeah and you're like okay motherfucker you don't know what the fuck you're talking about you're just wearing the kit and then other times people i just love when people go yeah my friend my my cousin studied abroad and got me this i'm sorry i don't really know what i just liked and i'm like you know what that's fair because we deaded the conversation right there and i don't have to be upset when you feign knowledge yeah i'm that i'm that creep i'm that creep who's like oh yeah misleading you and then quickly right away runs into trouble like i mean immediately he's like you know it's like where did i think it was gonna go he was just gonna let that lie i mean we're in a sports club he's gonna ask me about the pirates and he's not gonna just be like cool what do you

think about brian reynolds man in center field right i'll be like i don't know right no you just go right right yeah well you know roberto clemente was really my favorite my favorite pirate uh i don't know if he's still on the team or whatever oh yeah man i mean make a bunch of new friends in los angeles wear philadelphia any sports gear because they they just come right up to you and they're like, you from Philly, man? More than the Mass Holes, I realize. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the Mass Holes are like, it's just I feel like they have enough friends

everywhere they go. Yeah, because they've invaded LA thoroughly. But yeah, I guess maybe Philly. Philly's still thirsty enough. Hey, whoa, whoa, what's up, buddy? Hey, have you seen Rocky? When I was in Atlanta, people got mad at me about this pirates hat this is during during pandemic yeah like i drove across the country and i ended up in atlanta on the street and uh walking um and uh people were like yelling at me about the pirates and i had to pretend like i knew why they were you know like

atlanta you know like i didn't but i didn't even understand why i was supposed to be you know what i mean they were being playful they weren't being mean but i didn't even understand you know i mean i had to be like oh yeah i know i know why you're mad at me right like yeah we got you yeah because i remember when the pirates what did they do they came down here and caused trouble or something uh-huh oh yeah yeah i know how the pirates came down to atlanta that time? Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know how the Pirates came down to Atlanta that time. I mean, oh, how quickly you forgot the 92 NLCS. Right. I don't even forget the baseball teams.

I just forgot baseball teams even travel. I thought the Pirates would have had to come down and invade Atlanta or something. I forgot they go there and play games. That's how bad I'm. What, did they come down here and cause some trouble? Well, yeah, they played some games with us. Pirates definitely as a franchise have some of the best historic stories. They've got Doc Ellis pitching a no hitter while on LSD and they've got the cocaine pirates as they were known, where the mascot for the team was a parrot and he was dealing cocaine to all the players on the team

and everybody was just like out of their mind on cocaine uh for like two full seasons oh my god the guy and i you know for for a second i was like how how did a parrot deal cocaine a guy in a yeah i just realized it's the guy in there. What a perfect way to deal drugs inside a mascot. Right. The Pirates of the Caribbean version of The Wire where you're doing hand-to-hand with a parrot. And then the pirate's throwing up a two for him. Anyway.

The players didn't realize it was a guy in a parrot suit, though. They thought they were dealing with a real parrot. They were like, that parrot's fucking cool. It's not illegal if you buy it from a parrot right uh all right this description of wikipedia they call it the pittsburgh drug trials it says the pittsburgh drug trials are considered one of baseball's biggest all-time scandals albeit one that was quote behind the scenes and did not affect play on the field uh-huh someone put that in there like were you watching it being edited while you were talking like while you're reading it it's like hey the cursor's moving all right chris we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first

we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're gonna talk about gop governors being down with the sickness. Is that that song? Maybe not. Close enough. We'll talk about Biden's announcement around when we'll have enough vaccines for all adult arms. We'll talk about the latest findings on Stockton's basic income experiment. We will talk about Philadelphia's vaccine rollout, all of that, plenty more.

But first, Chris, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, real quick, before I forget, I just want to say happy birthday to my mom. It's March 4th. It's my mom's birthday. Her name is Penny. Happy birthday,

Penny. Happy birthday, Penny. She's 39 4th. It's my mom's birthday. Her name is Penny. Happy birthday, Penny. Happy birthday, Penny. Happy birthday, Mom. Penny. She's 39. Wow. So happy birthday, Mom. Okay, so my internet search lately, I mean, I've been watching YouTube, you know, mostly to get through. I mean, well, that's not really true because I watched a ton of YouTube before the pandemic.

So I guess I just watched YouTube to get through life. But I've been watching a lot of, I mean, I kind of ran, I watched tons of vintage 1980s wrestling. So I search, you know, all the 1980s wrestling, but I've seen like quite a bit of it. And so now I've been back on one of my old favorites, which is the JFK assassination. And so now I've been back on one of my old favorites, which is the JFK assassination. And since it's never going to be resolved, it's one of those things you can just keep going back to. And it's got great characters and it's got great grainy interviews with people. And you can hear all about phone booths and phone books and all kinds of old things that don't exist anymore.

And you can hear mostly about my favorite guy, Badge Man. Badge Man? Oh, shit. Okay, because I was told going into this that Jack was some kind of a JFK expert. When you started saying JFK, Jack started cracking his knuckles and rolling his neck like he was about to step in the octagon. But, yeah, what's badgeman okay well technically badge man is not a really he's not a real thing but that doesn't stop me from watching right well no i'm actually giving that because i thought you were a real deal man i didn't mean to attack i didn't mean to attack oh you never heard of this made-up thing i just said no it's like a thing it's a real thing that

people talk about but i do not believe that there was a man with a badge on the grassy knoll but there was this guy who shot film from the other side not the zapruder side and i can't remember his name right now should have had it written down but anyway his name's like i don't know so he but he shot film from the other side when JFK was being shot. So he got the grassy knoll in it. But he was pretty far away. So a bunch of 1970s photo enlargers, these dudes with like- Enhance, enhance.

Yeah, a bunch of guys- But the analog version. A bunch of guys with magnifying glasses who were smoking looked really closely at these pictures and found what they think is a man wearing a badge firing a gun. Now, the only problem with that, and I can see, but they have to really point it out. And they're so convinced there's a man with a badge shooting a gun

that they don't even point it out. They're just like, there he is. And you're looking at nothing. And then finally they'll superimpose like they're like all right if you want proof here's a little superimposed outline of them since you're a beginner at looking at men firing guns i guess because it's right there you know what i mean like right oh oh you think it looks like a bush what must be because you think everybody firing a gun looks like a bush right um that's a disorder you have but i guess if i have to i'll show you the outline of the man there it is i think it looks like a bush as in george hw bush who was in dallas that day right i have a three tramps tattoo and are the three tramps uh nixon george w george hw bush and uh lbj i'm i believe that i mean

i believe i really recreationally believe a lot of things you know recreationally recreational beliefs i love that i actually think the third tramp is a young bill paxton a lot of people talk about how strange it was that george hw bush was there uh not many people realize uh a like eight-year-old bill paxton was just down the street and has been photographed uh on his dad's shoulders is that true yeah that's true george hw no bill he was growing up oh bill paxton oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, George H.W. was there behind the scenes coordinating the whole thing. Oh, okay. So Bill Paxton was on George H.W. Bush's shoulder.

That's interesting. Exactly. And he was full grown. That's weird because Bill Paxton... Okay, full grown Bill Paxton was on George H.W. Bush's shoulders inside an overcoat, and he was one of the tramps. That is interesting. Yeah.

So the three tramps, for people listening the daily zeitgeist they're these three guys that they think were undercover cia guys or else assassins that were dressed as hobos like train train hoppers right and and they you know so people like compare their silhouettes there's pictures of them but you know so people think like woody harrelson's father they think woody harrelson's father might be one of them because woody harrelson's father claimed he shot jfk and he was a guy who he was a hitman yeah so anyway it's just good stuff and uh and uh the three tramps for these guys that if you get into it it's it's pretty fun and uh i mean if if it's pretty fun if if let's say if JFK assassination was Woodstock 99, like the three tramps would be like corn. Yeah.

So I'm going to get a three tramps tattoo. I'm also getting a triple underpass tattoo. And the other thing was badge. Oh, badge man. Yeah. And I kind of think that the funniest thing about badge man is that his head like he's not proportional so even if he does look like a man with a badge on his head would be like yeah two or three feet like three feet tall and his badge is maybe like his badge is maybe like a millimeter like a millimeter big and then his shoes are like 15 feet tall so hey man i'm just saying when you're looking at crimes never underestimate the uh fuck

uh i'm forgetting the word now coal gas study never underestimate the coal gas study uh never underestimate the mascot community is what I was gonna say yeah so badge man is this guy anyways you can look him up he's he's called badge man and he's not real and um but there's a lot of people who talk about him endlessly and I like watching it all right Chris what is something you think is overrated true crime which is so funny considering what I was just talking about I listen to so much fucking true crime, which is so funny considering what I was just talking about. I listen to so much fucking true crime. And this is a somewhat serious point. 500,000 people have died from this pandemic.

And nobody cares. And a lot of people don't even think anybody died because they didn't see every single dead body in the morgue or whatever they need now to believe people died and uh i think true crime has to have something to do with it i mean i hike and listen to the most horrendous stories possible and they don't bother me at all because they've replaced like i listen to them the same way i listened to like top 40 am music when i was growing up it's just like one horrible story after another and you know sometimes you skip ahead because it's not gruesome enough or whatever oh whatever they just killed them normal oh no oh no no i want to hear something exotic i'm trying to build a missionary i'm trying to have some fun spice it up for me i love the juxtaposition of you chris going on a like a restorative walk through nature and if blaring through your skull are just the descriptions of heinous crimes

and murder right but i don't think i'm the only one and you're like yeah no i mean because no it's it's no i mean look we we we work in podcasting we know firsthand how the genre like it performs people love fucking true crime and yes there's a lot of things it's very double-edged sword because a lot of times you're like these are real people too and like you know for some people like a whole show made up like just focused on like this terrible thing that happened in their families kind of fucked up but it's only one person and most people don't know them so let's get down and then we also see it too in like the shows that we like like we are i don't know like i mean do you do you think personally you're desensitized from the amount of true crime that you listen to well that's what i'm starting to think i mean i think

like i feel like there's a certain segment of the population that thinks like they're not gonna die or something like somehow there's some percentage of us that aren't gonna die and we're just like oh yeah that loser who died right like you know what i mean like like oh what a loser oh what a loser they've ruined the economy by dying or whatever this motherfucker died yeah like we all like loser yeah party foul uh they just had a a sketch on snl or like a a song parody that was murder show that was about like uh it starts off with a girl's like husband being like all right i gotta go out and like do something she's like all right i'm just gonna like stay home and hang out and then just like the whole song's about her watching just gruesome ass murders but i think i think people yeah i mean yeah that's the most of

entertainment is is now i mean i don't know if you guys watched that night stalker documentary it was really bad like i'm down for whatever true crime usually and that's that was just a terrible documentary it's basically the interview with like did you see it no just an interview with like one policeman like the whole time and he's not a nice guy and he keeps trying to make himself the hero of the story and anyway it's it's just disheartening weird it's just narciss he's a narcissist just narcissists um interviewing other narcissists. But anyway, the point is for me is I think that death is... I mean, I don't want to talk about death.

I didn't come on the show to talk about death. But I do think that there's something really weird going on. Not just a little weird. Not just like, oh man, people don't care about 500,000 people dead. Not just a little weird, not just like, oh man, people don't care about 500,000 people dead. It's truly mind-boggling and really, really worth investigating because it is not normal. It is not normal. A culture that lets 500,000 people die and just keeps talking about businesses opening is a culture that has been completely brainwashed by this American idea that you just do business and then everything else falls into place somehow.

Including not dying, because dying is never discussed. People don't like to talk about it at all, even though everyone does it. And it's one of the best. I mean, it's one of the two main things that happens to you in the world. You get born and then you die. And to not ever address it is so lame. And I don't mean it's just plain lame. Our culture is so lame.

It's just like, what, we're going to do TikTok videos? And then just like one day you turn off and all your relatives are like, well, I guess she's a loser. Like, oh, well, I guess we thought she was cool. I used to like those videos she made, but then she died. So I guess she was weak or not a good capitalist or something. I've never thought about it like that. But being born and dying are definitely top two things that happen to you in a lifetime.

And like it says on the gravestones of modern idiots like you can't do tiktoks anymore tiktoks went downhill that's what it says on the grave the uh yeah i mean i've mentioned this before but uh the weimar republic like right before the rise of nazism was uh massively into true crime and like kind of invented the uh idea of a true crime obsession so i don't i don't think you're totally off that there's like some connection between uh the the sickness of a culture and its obsession with true crime death yeah death is not like you know death isn't ideally death would not be violent it's not supposed to be entertainment i mean i understand i love true, so I'm not saying that.

I'm just noticing in myself that if you listen to enough gore, it just starts to feel like, I don't know, death just somehow becomes more abstract and more like a piece of entertainment or something that's other. I can't quite put my finger on it, but all I know is death should be this awesome thing where you possibly turn into who knows, like a fucking

star or something. I mean, Casper, Jason Voorhees. Yeah, and you're out in the fucking universe just going like, Booyah! Maybe that's all you do. You're just a star with like a big speaker. Yeah, baby. You're just a Booyah! And they don't know because they're just a star with like a big speaker yeah baby there's a booyah and they don't know because they can't hear way out there the hubbub yeah

and you're like i used to be hooked on true crime now i'm a star fuck yeah and now i'm like booyah and i'm nude booyah this but i mean yeah like you know a lot of the research around true crime and like especially i remember like svu a lot of people like why are women so into svu more than men and like these really dark tales of crime and like some level is like that people like to it's like about survival is what they found like some people want to hear about it because in some way they feel like it can arm them against something befalling them in some way like on some level but also like to your point about our mortality like i think if you're also in denial about it you may be more interested in preventing it vis-a-vis listening to true crime and it like sort of really begins to like obscure this relationship to death because

i think especially in the west it's like a very it's a we we look at it very strangely like it's like oh this person died and now all of us two are hurting or whatever but we seldom is it like you know in eastern cultures where it's like more like oh yeah like it's just our physical we're just transitioning from physical to non-physical but like this fear of it i think yeah drives so much other exciting yeah death doesn't have to i mean it's not just like the end of being able to buy shoes. Like that's the way Americans look at it. That is a big part of it.

Americans look at it like, wow, when I'm dead, I'm not going to ever be able to shop online. Right. Yeah, it's FOMO of life. That's just such a lame way to look at it. And then they're going to end up being stars. And because they weren't thinking about death correctly, they're not going to get to yell anything. They're just going to be a star, nude, star nude hanging there and i'm gonna be right next to him going booyah booyah should have embraced death yeah i had a healthier attitude about this

and you have to listen to it but um that's ridiculous so the uh i like that as a... I think you just invented a new concept of the afterlife that I think a lot of people could get behind. I would like to be able to say, booyah, or I know that's right. I know that's right! I know that's right!

That star's badass. You kind of need a cool star near you so you can say that after they say something cool. I know that's right. After they something cool. I know that's right. After they say anything. I know that's right. Works after anything. That's the best thing about it.

Hot enough for you? I know that's right. It's like, what? You say that again. Oh, did you not hear me? Is it too hot in here? All right, Chris, we're going to take a quick break and we'll come back and ask you what you think is underrated. We'll be right back.

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What did I do? Underrated? I did overrated. It's true crime. Yeah, true crime. Yeah, underrated is did i do underrated i did over you did uh yeah true crime yeah underrated is my new podcast which is called uh cold brew got me like nice yeah where's it at it's real it's it's happening it's on twitch yeah it's on twitch every tuesday at 6 30 pacific 8 30 central 9 30 eastern and i don't give a fuck about mountain just kidding um so you've always said that yeah the mountain time do you remember mountain time

oh yeah they don't talk about mountain time very much that was more of a totally erasure no i was like fantasy island yeah there's also like people whatever wasn't cores like a big deal because it was from colorado like people had a had a 1970s obsession with uh with the mountain time zone oh yeah interesting denver and yeah that yeah that's like different regions have their moment righteous Righteous gemstones. What region is having their moment now? Back to East Coast, Eastern Standard. Eastern Standard is the hot. So hot right now.

The hot time zone now. Yeah. What's it like for you being on Twitch? You know, doing, you know, you've had a, we were talking before your tech journey from, you're like, now I got to buy this gear. And now you're doing a show on Twitch. Yeah. It's like, it's pretty like upsetting, you Yeah, it's like it's pretty upsetting.

It's like you used to be able to make a living doing one thing where you just could do it and then you made a living. And now you gotta first of all, you have to change your name from Chris Crofton to Colbrew Got Me Like.

And then everything spirals from there basically did you did you spell it in a funny way like the o is a zero and uh the e is it's not too late though i don't think it's too late let me get my manager on the let me get my manager on the phone we looked into people like it when you do it weird. Search engine optimization. Misspell the shit. Yeah.

Take out some of the vowels. No vowels. Vowels are for old people. Cold brew. Cold brew. Yeah. So cold brew got me like... It's going to be on YouTube though too. And I've got like a friend of mine helping me out of Nashville who does a bunch of other podcasts, mostly about basketball.

But he was a fan of my old radio show called Best of Bread. And he's like, you got to be back doing this. So he got a tech guy and the tech guys got it so we can watch youtube videos and be underneath it talking about them and um and uh so it's called cold brew got me like and you can find out about it i'll i'll plug it later but it was just kind of a joke idea for underrated i mean it just it's just uh less gruesome than true crime yeah i mean i you know what i forgot to mention though and overrated do you guys know about that you guys know about that song small waist pretty face with a big bank you ever see that on on instagram where those women do those videos where they go they use that sample from

that song where it goes i got a small waist pretty face with a big bank do you know what i'm talking about or am i the only one who sees this shit i don't know what you're talking about but that's you don't that's because i'm old and out of touch and all i watch plus if you look at one now this is this is gonna sound old i mean i am fairly old but you look at one woman in a bikini on that fucking instagram app and then from then on they got everybody you get yeah everybody you get everything you get is you know it used to be i got you know i don't know what when i was more of an academic i got you know important news items on that thing now i accidentally look at one bikini pick by mistake by mistake i get our tiktok video i can't believe it i'm like the only one and now i've accidentally

revealed that i'm horny thank you very much that's all i get on my tiktok explorer page that and uh i'm also on cocaine tiktok it always serves me narco tiktok that's amazing tiktok explorer page that and uh i'm also on cocaine tiktok it always serves me narco tiktok that's amazing tiktok is one way of breaking down cocaine bails and now it's all they think you want to watch right that's all miles likes miles loves this miles loves watching cocaine be broken up being distributed That's all he likes. I'm like, damn, look at all that bass. Well, they found out that somehow the Instagram people found out that Chris Crofton likes women in bikinis. And now all I get are women doing synchronized dances that say, and they use the same sample from this song that says, I got a small face, pretty waist with a big bank. And it's so depressing because it's girls showing like when the person in the

song says it's like a female r&b song you know right and it's i got a small waist pretty face and a big bank and the big bank means butt so it's like they just like they just show their they put their hands up by their face and then they put their hands on their waist and then they fucking show their butt and then their parents break down the door. Hopefully. Oh, no. Well, yeah. What the fuck are you doing? Is this a segment on your on cold brew?

Got me like Chris Croft is tick tock breakdowns. It should be because there's that other one. If you've seen this one, definitely, where they take the sample from that old old song where they go. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no no do you know that one holy fuck i'm in a private hell maybe yeah yeah yeah yeah it's just funny because you're just singing the yes the but it's like a remix right it's like an old crystal song or something yeah and they right right right part of it and sped it up. So it sounds like the person's on helium and they go, Oh no,

Oh no, Oh no, no, no, no, no. And they show videos of fail, you know, people failing and they play that.

And man, Oh man. I bet the, I bet the Instagram coders are like, we got this one sick freak. Who's into girls and get this bikinis. No way. What's he a guy? Get him with another. sick freak who's into girls and get this bikinis he's gonna wish he's gonna wish he was yeah like that transitions into the whole death thing so it works all comes back yeah i'll come back accepting death i mean we were talking talking about your tech journey we were talking I think, yesterday's episode about this new book that's come out about basically how email is killing us and all these tech innovations that are supposed to make us more, you know, I guess they make us more self-sufficient. spreading the work out across like everyone and giving everyone like more busy work and more like

technical work to keep themselves self-sufficient it does like add stress to your life like so i think the thing you're talking about uh about how everybody needs to know all this shit and buy all this shit is a real uh it's a real bummer man yes because there used to be it's like i think of it in terms of like bands because i play music so it's like if i think if it was the 1970s and there was like a up and running normal music business i would have probably had a small career where i could have or maybe a giant career i don't know why I have to be so hard on myself I would have been a huge superstar but no but I would have at least I think I could have had like some kind of a living from being a musician only maybe or maybe I could have been a comedian only but now you're not allowed to be one thing now you've got to be you know it's the way I knew

it was you know when they made those van those bands playing a van remember they were a band in a van yeah you think led zeppelin would have played in a fucking van they would have told them to shove that van up their fucking ass right and the reason why is because they didn't have to play in a goddamn van for exposure you know what i mean it was like artists are having to do more and more stupid shit to make a living and entrepreneurs know this or not entrepreneurs i don't know how to say it but you know corporations people with a lot of money know they can get an artist to do almost anything for nothing because they know they're not making any money so you can get fucking i saw melissa

etheridge is on fucking cameo oh you know like, I mean, singing happy birthday to people to pay for her hot tub or whatever. I mean, that is fucked. Come to my window. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to my window. She's like, come to my window, Larry. Happy birthday.

Yeah. It's just not. I mean, there is a a way forward but it doesn't look probably anything like what people who grew up you know people who are born right now will be fine with this shit because they just don't grow up with it but i mean if you grew up with this other reality where you were supposed to be able to have one job and then have a life you know that's just not the case um you know one thing i just learned was that uh like the reason that um like drake albums now have like 40 songs on them when he when he releases one is because that's like gaming the spotify system yeah everything's for streaming now right but like that in in the same way that like one person having to you know there's the video killed the

radio star thing where like now the musicians have to be great looking and then now like you're just like further winnowing down like the population that has okay they have to be great looking. They have to be good musicians and they have to like be tech savvy and good self marketers. Like I, I do feel like, you know, it like, as with the Drake thing,

he's not dropping an album with like 10 perfect songs on it. He's dropping, you know, some good songs and a bunch of mediocre shit. I feel like that's kind of could work as a metaphor for like just industry wide and just generally culturally wide, how, how the, you know, pervasiveness of culture and everything affects affects the art.

Yeah. I mean, the other side of those, because it's been democratized to a certain extent people who would have never you know you know you got people who are mudlarking who can yeah that's true add revenue off youtube off the videos like that and before you're like i used this i used to just be doing this and now i can make money i mean it's just it's weird how things begin to sort of like become reorganized in weird ways. But yeah, I'm sorry, miles, but mudlarking has always been a hot ticket.

People have always enjoyed watching the mudlarking boom of, you know, I know what you just, I know what you just tried to do. My main interest is some kind of weirdo stuff. No, but I mean, to monetize,

monetize mudlarking like that. You know what I mean? International mudlarking like that you know what i mean international mudlark people used to go to people used to go to the movies to see people mudlark the great silent film mudlarking stars oh yeah orchestras yeah they had live orchestras doing the soundtrack and stuff this time radio city music hall was started to show mudlarking videos right who could forget the great roberta flanagan one of our greatest mudlarkers should we even talk about the news we're setting new records we're cropped in we give like 40 minutes in still on the under but I love it worth it I'm happy to talk about the news whatever you want to do

obviously but what was the last thing? I got to bust a myth still we don't do that anymore actually oh my god I had four paragraphs written for that alright let's get into one story before we go to our second break uh let's just let's just do a quick covet update right yeah uh the gop is you know doing that

counting their chickens before it before they hatched thing uh that wall street journal op-ed that uh people were like well don, don't get too excited, but we might be in good shape come April. They were like, that's all we need. And now everybody's opening up. Yeah. We talked about Texas on the trending show. All of the restrictions are basically going to be lifted.

Although many business owners are like, I'm not. Okay, thanks. But I still have my own employees I actually care about, so I'm not. Okay, thanks. But I still have like my own employees I actually care about. So I'm not going to do that. Yeah, there's an ICU nurse who's like upset people on the road. Like she's freaking out. But it's like, yeah, that's her life that she now has to be on the front lines with a bunch of people who aren't wearing masks and aren't practicing. Yeah.

You know, I mean, try being in a job unlike, you know, like maybe someone like law enforcement where you know you're gonna kill somebody and you might have to watch someone die imagine your job being to save people's lives and being so overwhelmed with people that can barely be helped that your life just be your work life is a living hell that's what they're pushing back against. So, you know, looking at even their averages, they had a quote unquote low of 4,212 cases in on February 20th on March 2nd cases were up to 7,259 per day. That's that was off their seven day average. They're trending upward. Okay. And if you look even where else, uh, Mississippi, the governor there just saying today, I signed what i expect will be one of

my last executive orders regarding covet 19 saying our hospitalizations have plummeted numbers do do do this that and the other it actually meets the original criteria we had before mask mandates again looking at them numbers are trending upward in montana where greg jan forte is the fucking governor the guy who body slammed the journalist a few election cycles ago if you remember i remember that yeah he's the governor now and he's just been going on like a trumpian wet dream fantasy of just rolling back all of his democratic predecessors mandates just in an effort to you know i guess kill more of his constituents and you know the the thing that's really fucked up about all of this yes these people are fucking dumb and fuck you for supporting this kind of bullshit but the people

who are going to bear the brunt of this are people of color who are going to be in these essential working positions or being in service roles interacting with the public who is now saying literally mask off breathing in your face i could be sick and i don't know but my governor's telling me to act reckless as fuck around people who the mortality rates are affecting disproportionately um so that's where things are but again remembering the numbers went down because of the mandates and people are suffering when they're like you know we're tired of our people suffering and not having access people are suffering because the government is not supporting them you know through this major crisis that's why they're suffering not because fucking applebee's is closed but they've done a really good job of completely obscuring the argument from no one should everyone should be

like yo fuck that give me my money right fuck all this but it's been like they have a right to die at work and that's the take now yeah yeah it's really disheartening and it's also because we're so compartmentalized and even more so during a pandemic obviously we're all by ourselves you know so it's easy to believe that and it goes back to this sort of 500 000 people such an abstract abstraction like part of the problem with living in a society where you're not connected to anybody is that almost everybody could die and as long as it wasn't someone on your block you would never believe it you know what i mean you're so separate you know what i mean like so it's like it's a perfect setup like the people

that haven't died are kind of easy to convince that really nobody really died who do you know that died and you're like well i don't know i'm the only person in my house or i'm like i only know five people and they didn't die so i guess nobody died yeah it's like a perfect setup like this culture is set up for people to work and look at their phones right and go home go to bed and start again and never really know that many people and that's the setup and that's it works a couple ways but in this situation it works because nobody knows someone who's died but that doesn't mean a shit ton of people haven't haven't died and also i know people who have died right and other people know who people who have died but absolutely the word doesn't get around

because everyone's at home and so it's like yeah there's just or you know or it's just your own hubris you know as a person being like yeah maybe i will get sick but i'm not one of these people who'll die from it cut to them right dying and yes in total regret or whatever or and not in some cases but yeah it's true like it is a reflection of what's happening at every level like on and the governmental side you have millionaires deciding what wages are for people you know the absurdity of having millionaires determine what uh what you know how to set or address income inequality is just absurd. And yet these are the people who say, no, they don't need $15 wages. We don't need to protect them because they're also coming from their place of they're vaccinated, they're millionaires. They know the decisions they

make have nothing. They're so insulated that these are just to them it's a hard decision i'll make but it'll never affect anyone i know and then in the same way even on like a personal level we have our own versions of like well i don't know if it's gonna affect anyone i know so i can do this that and the other yes yeah it's a bad cycle every single person is making those decisions none of them are living like six people in a two-bedroom apartment or multiple families living in one house um as the case in poor people poorer neighborhoods and things people it's like these people have acres to walk around they have they have you know probably they're just their immediate family in their in their house i mean these people are wealthy. They, they, I'm not exaggerating to say, or I'm not, I don't,

this is correct that they do not, they're never piled into a building with a bunch of people. So they are safer. So for them, they're operating from a position of they are safer than your average person. And they're making decisions based on that safety and it happens that all their friends have that kind of safety too because those people travel in packs it's not like rich people hang out with poor people they fucking don't so they you know they're all operating on this idea that this is not that bad and for them on their five fucking acres you know and their top shelf health care you know they could still die but their chances are a lot less and they're just

making for those people who making making policy during a pandemic is well to say the least a recipe for disaster yeah right it's fucked up it's systemic like i i do think that you know obviously those are shitty people but i also think it's just more and more it you run into the fact that it's it's systemic it's the system preserving itself there this is sort of related but uh we talked a long time ago uh and it was in the news that this mayor who was in his 20s michael tubbs got some celebrity because he was like i'm going to enact a test balloon plan where low income like poor households get 500 every month without any of the job requirements means testing drug testing any of the shit that usually comes with government payments.

And it was radical in its simplicity. It's something that countries around the world have found works. It's like slap your head obvious. The data is finally starting to roll in. It's extremely positive the people who got the uh additional income actually worked more they were able to find more jobs because they weren't you know stretched thin and constantly you know doing just surviving yeah just surviving constantly and fucking depressed they spent their money on groceries and things for their families

uh which is not what conservatives would tell you they would have. So this article in The Atlantic that's about like all this great data coming in has a quote from Michael Tubbs, the dude who was like kind of the face of this program about how, you know, just lowering the stress and cortisol levels alone is worth it for mental health like this is the equivalent of like giving everybody really great mental health care is just giving them 500 a month right um and much cheaper um but the quote also mentions he is the former mayor michael tubbs he was defeated in 2020 by a republican uh who used a popular facebook page uh the republican didn't do it but there was a basically like a giant uh viral campaign that was like full of racism aimed at uh michael tubbs uh the republican party the powers that be um the police union was all against him it's just like that that thing of the the system is going to um preserve itself it's it's almost like thinking of uh you know these rules this set of like this

market capitalism logic as an artificial intelligence that is going to preserve itself and uh expel anything that is a threat to it um and that's what they did here uh fortunately he is like expanding this experiment to other cities um to like kind of pick up uh momentum um but it's just yeah it's a yeah we need that proof because all we're saying is you know the answer to fucking 99 out of 100 questions regarding societal ills in this country and most places is just help fucking people just help people just fucking help them don't don't don't make it conditional respect the humanity and dignity of a human being and say you are you are experiencing lack allow us the government who's collecting taxes to come in and support you and yeah to your point of like

the disingenuous arguments that go against programs like this which is like well they're just going to not do anything and just buy xboxes and smoke 40s and shit and like to your point like one percent of the money one percent of the money you're talking about this article went to tobacco and alcohol the rest is about like the relief that they experienced being like oh shit i can fix this thing in my house that was causing me like i can have a light that i can put here it's like the smallest things that actually optimize your life when you have nothing and fuck them anyway right because fucking rich people love fucking alcohol and tobacco yeah right i mean anybody that's their fuck they love that shit well that's how they can live with their greed anyway i'm sorry i just was thinking about the fact that it's so

hypocritical to say oh no absolutely spend it on alcohol and tobacco but all they're doing spending it on they're just what they want to do is just divide as many people as possible by saying like well hey you're working hard and you're just gonna let this poor get a check for nothing so like that's not that's not what the game is actually i look at somebody who has no options and i say that's somebody who capitalism has epically fucked over and has no recourse and so the the solution is that we have to help them yeah that's what i see not that is correct not somebody who's a fucking criminal it's like how many like i would ask a wealthy person how many carjackers do you know right you know i mean at your country club how many carjackers are members of your country club

because i'm guessing none because carjackers don't do this shit that's not a career it's a way you just survive so i mean there's so many things that i think like studies like this can help just sort of dispel a lot of these myths but god when you see the fucking force at which you know uh these things are fought it's like a lot of people do make money like that fast and furious movie yeah that's true that is one of the growth industries in america big chunk of the economy is that like that is true hot like i think four percent of the gdp yeah hot carthage solving uh international crimes via uh stunt driving is is actually one of the biggest growth industries. I just want to

say real quick the simple thing is 400 of you motherfuckers have taken all the money. Right. If you don't give it back at all you're going to end up I mean it's just as simple as that and i was going to the joke part of it

and it's not entirely a joke is like well there's going to be like a shark tank to decide who gets to eat for one thing like i'd like to pitch my family to you we're useful this way and that way can we have a dinner uh yes i'll do it for a 70 stake in your family exactly i don't know if i want to invest in this family they seem lazy um yeah so the other thing was i want to put jeff bezos and i want to put fucking elon musk on hoarders and they'll be like what are you talking about i don't hoard anything really your money nations fuck resources yeah are you talking about i don't hoard anything really your money nations fuck resources yeah i'm talking about your money dick yeah yeah i mean i think that's the thing

it just has to be more popular to like fucking punk these people in public yeah yeah i mean the only reason there's a necessity for universal basic income is because you took all the money it's not because people are lazy you took all the fucking. It's not because people are lazy. You took all the fucking money. Now you got to give it back or else everything breaks and everyone loses their shit. Right. And they're saying, Oh yeah,

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So there is a piece of good news on COVID relief. It does seem like, according to Bideniden there will be enough vaccines for every adult in america uh by the end of may yeah which is two months older than uh two months earlier than uh previously estimated yeah i'm excited july in my mind i just like, it's probably going to be the fall. But to be real, I mean, like, yes, maybe we will get vaccinations. But if these just just to touch on that last story, if governors and different local municipalities are relaxing the mandates, we are not going to be living outside so quickly. My friends, it doesn't work like that. my friends that doesn't work like that if we keep the mandates up and we're vaccinating that's more of a realist that then you might be able to picture yourself wearing a flower crown at coachella in 2022 but as far as i'm concerned that's what i want to do if if shit's if shit

is still going like this and they're still running it on the fucking you know applebee big applebees open the restaurant's agenda dude we're we're looking at bad fucking news. That's why Fauci's over here like, please don't do it, guys. We've come so far. And I feel for him. But yeah, end of May, I think would be great. I think that's just great news.

You can hang out with responsible friends is all you'll be able to do, like people you trust. You could have maybe a more relaxed hang with a group of people that you trust. And maybe have a maybe a more relaxed hang with right you know like with a group of people that you trust right and maybe have a show in a backyard or something and have a band and you wouldn't be afraid the singer was gonna kill everybody yeah exactly and then yeah the other thing too is that along with this there's been some new research about like vaccination confidence

and like among americans and who is, who is not initially, you know, a lot of the talk from the media was like, you know, obviously, right. Rightly, a lot of black Americans were like, well, looking back at the cruel history of medical experimentation on my people, I don't know if I'm ready to hop in line for a vaccine. But then as things dissipated and people are just realizing that it's very safe, it's effective, it's it would be this is how we're going to move forward. Those, that reluctance dwindled down. The group that has the most significant resistance

out of any demographic in the United States are white Republicans. Wow. Over 40% are like, I don't think I'm going to get it. That's insane. So what do you think is going to happen in those states? I just laughed a little bit when you said the African-American, obviously I wasn't think I'm going to get it. That's insane. So what do you think is going to happen in those states? I just laughed a little bit when you said the African-American, obviously I wasn't laughing. I was just thinking about how every single institution and government is,

has proven itself untrustworthy. So it's like, of course, how would you, how are you going to, you know, how are black people going to trust a government that's fucked them over, over and over again,

that they won't do it again. The history and the present tense. Right. Yeah. But, I mean, there's a lot of factors i mean like as much as even governors like oh we can do it like it's not that's not what needs to be done and like jesus like that why why why did one op-ed just kind of completely fucked everyone up yeah we're in the middle of like the biggest race tantrum i mean i just wrote about it for my new column um because in tennessee they just um passed a bill to outlaw or to ban children transgender children from participating in right which isn't even a thing if there's not right at this moment there's nobody even trying to do that and they admit that and they're like this is a preemptive

it's just hate it's just it's just more like white people feel that they their their power and their inherent their inherent value as being white that this culture has always afforded them right that they had this pride and just being like i'm white they're not gonna have it anymore and they are so fucking mad that they are just having a very violent tantrum and it's it's absolutely pathetic to see them try and reframe it a million different ways. Like, oh, we're just worried about... No, you're just performatively attacking transgender people because you feel like they're a small enough minority that they can't defend themselves.

You're like, well, I guess we can't... At least we're better than these people. Yeah, who are we supposed to bully? We've always been allowed to bully people that's one of the rights that's in the constitution that you can bully people if you're if you're white you know and it's like they're just like they're like what you're describing is that just basic sort of human need of like if you feel powerless and you cannot be do anything to create or feel that you are powerful then the next best thing is to destroy yes and i think that's what it is it's

just destruction everywhere it's a good moment because it shows that white supremacist you know the idea of what whites are you know are nerve racist whites are nervous and that's good but it's sure is a tough time to live through yeah while they're just fucking violent and still at the levers of power many yeah many people too so it's just made me think of it when you were talking about um um just the 40 of white republicans who don't believe in the vaccine you know it's just trolling they're all trolls they're just trolling because they're pissed the dr seuss thing is so is so frustrating like the the fact that it's being covered on fox news is like they're trying to outlaw dr seuss and like it's the same shit as like the muppets thing where uh it's being done by dr seussuss is like a state. And they're just saying there,

these six books have racist illustrations in them. We are not going to distribute them anymore. And yeah, what will white people have left? What will white people have left? Right. Well, that's what I feel like you have to,

except for the whole Senate, all of the outrage moments are like, just become less and less significant. You know, like you can outrage people feel like your life is in danger right now because brown people want to have equality. And now it's like, fuck. All right. Well, they know we're racist and we don't care about that anymore. So now we're going to be like, Dr. Seuss is getting curb stomped by the snowflakes it's like what the like by the end

of it it's gonna be talking about the most minuscule shit like even more minuscule than it is yeah mr potato head i forgot mr potato head existed right don't buy that as a gift for a kid now there's no value in that i fuck i remember i remember, I remember seeing like a Mr. Potato head at a kid's house. I'm like, this is not a toy. This is some kind of cruel art piece that makes no sense. It's still actually required. They make you sign a piece of paper when you're bringing a kid home from the

hospital. You have to buy a, what do you, it's like one of the, one of the, like when immigrants have to like pledge allegiance to the flag, green card. They're also presented with a Mr. Potato Head.

Mr. Potato Head, a mini flag. Yeah. You never know when you're going to need a loose ear just sitting on your kitchen floor five years from now. For a fun bit with your kid. What's that? You hold it up to your head. Except the ear doesn't really look like an ear,

so it's impossible. Get ready for a QAnon fuckhead to swear themselves in on a Dr. Seuss book. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

I mean, yeah. Watch. Oh my Seuss flags now. Oh yeah. Oh, the new Gadsden flag is a Seuss flag. And like,

yeah, I find this is like, I guess a logical next step for them. A bunch of people outside the Capitol screaming green eggs and ham yeah they already took the cat in the hat uh hat for uh like peacocking pickup juggalos yeah now they're brought up that's like my least favorite is that give everyone like a chill when they see somebody wearing one of those hats i think only when they have like earnestly yeah i think only when they have goggles or like you know some other like gelled up hair or something that's i mean it's just somebody at a uh you know at a con who's just having a con is one thing i'm talking about like

look and i'm not i don't i'm saying that's not for me you know i mean if that's how you get down all good but you know i might keep my eye on you let's just say that this i just do want to play this one clip of just how bored fox news is regarding the dr seuss stuff because just listen to this they were referencing a tweet i'm just gonna play this a 2017 tweet from vice president kamala harris praised dr seuss and now it has resurfaced because you know tweets never go away that's sorry i just fell asleep what was happening yeah there they were they were showing a tweet because kamala harris in 2017 said happy birthday dr seuss the more that you read just some quote from him they're like can you but can you believe it and now she hasn't changed her tune

uh so like that all right it's unbelievable yeah i mean that's why i'm curious like if at least in the in the heyday of fox news they were using like existential like real like seemingly existential threats to their whiteness or their American-ness to like motivate and really ramp up the hatred. You know what I mean? And now like, is this still getting them horny? There must be polling that says it is. I don't know. Yeah.

Because I think at that point, maybe like the self-delusion wears off a bit and you're like, yeah, it's really not about any of this. Like I just have to, I just hate liberals. I just hate fucking liberal culture. And I don't really need a logic to it. I mean, they're presenting one that doesn't make sense. But I know the feeling that I have, which is merely just this. I don't like this culture or whatever.

Well, Crofton, it has been a pleasure having you as always, man. So where can where can people find you and follow you well my whole system's all messed up um because i got too many names yes because like my my i got people talking to my ear that i gotta change everything that cold brew got me like um which is just i don't want to be called that all the time. Um, but, uh, I guess I will, if I have to keep a roof over to keep a roof over my head, I guess I'll do whatever. Um,

but, uh, you can find me on, uh, Twitter at the Crofton show. You can find, uh, the new,

um, Twitch show. It's called cold brew. Got me like one word. Um, and you can find that also, on i guess youtube and i think shortly on like we'll have an audio version of it too on like spotify and stuff and all that stuff and then uh on my instagram at chris underscore crofton and then my patreon which is chris crofton which

is where i'm trying to like sort of group everything together patreon slash ch Chris Crofton, which is where I'm trying to group everything together. Patreon slash Chris Crofton. I'm trying to figure out a way to make a living, maybe. That way, maybe. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people are, but that's the plan long term.

And then you can buy my record, my debut record, Hello, It's Me, which got a 7.4 from Pitchfork. Booyah! Booyah! The star is born. Anyway, you can buy that at bandcamp.com slash Chris Crofton or whatever it is.

Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? There's one tweet that i that i actually know about um that i loved um well it's one that i actually because this segment is the one where i always fall apart and it takes me 25 minutes to find a tweet but this is the one it's by someone named Heinz Baked Beans. Or no, Heinz Baked Jeans at Merman Melville. And kind of a bummer to have been born at the very end of the

fuck around century just to live the rest of my life in the find out century. I think that's the best tweet ever done. Fresh tweets. Out the hopper. Miles, where all i can find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying uh twitter instagram at miles of gray also on twitch too 420 day fiance where i'm not looking at youtube videos i'm just getting high and ranting about reality shows so i would definitely check out uh cold brew got me and you are uh having your name legally changed to 420 day fiance right uh yes i am and it's

kind of causing problems in my family as your new manager miles i really think it's a good idea i know and look i'm trusting you babe i'm trusting you babe uh yeah so some tweets I like. Let's see. There's a couple. First one's two from Reductors. First one is one that I read it last week, but I love it. At Reductors tweets, how to cope when everything is a personal affront to you. Which I just like that mindset of like, everything is a fucking against me. And how to cope, man. It's tough. That shit is tough. That's a lot And how to cope, man. It's tough.

That shit is tough. That's a lot of chaos to be dealing with. So I wish peace to those in the personal affront section. Another one from Reductress. It's like a group of white women and then a woman of color. And it says, how to explain to your white friends that you don't know who Billy Joel is because your dad is an immigrant. I found moments like that where I'm like, don't really know that one.

Finally at Taylor Guerin, uh, who was one great writer from her justice, but a great writer in her own right now has moved on. I believe, but, but she tweets, imagine being a Royal,

like being a grown adult and calling yourself a Prince or a queen, just childish. Uh, you can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien no real new tweets past couple days that have impressed me guys work harder but I'll read some from a couple days ago that I retweeted already

Mothman Festival Queen tweeted sick transit Gloria is Latin for Nice car Gloria And At Rush underscore less tweeted Do this do that Some of y'all need to be doing your dishes I liked that

You can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information we talked

about in today's episode as well as a song recommendation. Miles, what song are we sending people to check out today? Up the stairs, the station where... Dude, that sick transit glory. That fucking song is wild.

Very dark, very dark. The track that we're going to go out on, you know, look, more sample-based hip-hop, more neck-snapping, but from the gods, which is DJ Premier. Okay, if we're talking about sample-based hip-hop, more neck-snapping, but from the gods, which is DJ Premier. Okay, if we're talking about sample-based hip-hop, it's the golden era god, DJ Premier, but with the newcomers, West Side Gun, Conway the Machine, and Benny the Butcher, because Buffalo hip-hop is just the fucking shit right now.

For me, someone who is stuck in like 98, 96 rap, there's no better feeling. So this track is Headlines, produced by Premier, with West Side Gun, Conway, and Ben. I feel like 90s era rap out of New York City all sounds like it's, it all feels like Buffalo. Just like cold. You gotta wear a jacket, yeah, you see your breath, you know what I mean? I think that's why I think, I think my love affair with cold weather comes from being a fan of New York hip-hop. And, like, the imagery of, like, the New Jack Cities and things like that.

Oh, yeah, you got a leather coat on and shit. Meanwhile, I'm, like, in short shorts and flip-flops, like, smoking a joint, looking like a smoking surfer. Hey, you guys, sorry if I seemed like I checked out. I'm having some audio trouble over here. But I just wanted to say thanks a lot for having me on the show. Hey, man. Always great having you.

Go check out that Buffalo Hip Hop. The Daily Zyka is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you list your favorite shows. That will do it for this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. We'll talk to you all then.

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