The Daily Zeitgeist - Kim Kardashitrends 10/3: Kim Kardashian, Lena Dunham, Sacheen Littlefeather, Jeffrey Dahmer, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Herschel Walker

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

In this edition of Kim Kardashitrends, Jack and Miles discuss the SEC fining Kim Kardashian $1.3m for shilling crypto currency, Lena Dunham demanding her casket be included in the NYC Pride Parade when she dies, Sacheen Littlefeather, the activist who rejected Marlon Brando’s Oscar, passes at the age of 75, Twitter uses and families of the the victims are urging others NOT to watch the Jeffrey Dahmer show on Netflix, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever dropped a new trailer that teases who is taking up the mantle of Black Panther and Herschel Walker, who is running for the Senate in Georgia, continues turning progressive policy ideas into wild claims that make no sense.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of kim kardashian trends i'm jack that's miles miles you were just making me laugh by saying let's go my egos hey let's go my egos lego yeah i mean at first i didn't know uh what i like as a kid what they were actually saying I did not until I was Well into adulthood Know that that let go of my ego Yeah that's right A commercial

In a commercial context you're saying Lego and you expect me to think of And I'm four so the fuck You want from me okay Yes it should have been clear because someone was asking Someone to let go of a waffle that was named Eggo. But it wasn't. My brain was dumb.

I wasn't at peak wittiness then. Okay. I thought this shit was called Allison Wonderland. Like her name was Allison. And her last name was Wonderland. That's how I just heard shit as a kid all the time. No, if it's in a fantasy setting, it has to be Allison. Ah, yes.

You have to add that to make it sound yes even even more uh fantasy yes fantastical princess alicent ah thank you when they drop that t on me in the first episode of uh house of dragon when they were like and emperor you know miss alicent yeah like get out of here you're like hey you did it out of here you you george r martin you and this is my buddy john johnny jonathan thank you and welcome eric here as well and kyle um exactly all right well i am jack that is miles these are some of the things that are trending uh kim kardashia trend is trending uh because the sec is making her you know pay pay for her crimes for shilling ethereum max or whatever the fuck it was called a few years ago

and she was like you got to get in on this and everyone's like oh my god lady you too you're getting in on the ponds okay so yeah ponds 1.3 um and you know we're not talking about the wonderful uh skincare products of ponds p-o-n-d-s we're talking about ponzi schemes here but yeah 1.3 million just to pay the sec and also i think like like agrees to have to like can do no promoting of crypto uh securities for like three years or some shit is this the first celebrity crypto pump and dump that's gotten targeted by the sec you know actually i'm don't know maybe because that seems interesting i mean i think it could be i mean so when i look this is the first time at least someone of this stature uh and based on this bloomberg headline it says kardashian sec slap is fresh warning shot over crypto promotion so i don't know if that

they're saying like to the other shills out there who take money to you know promote whatever like justin bieber you know is madonna and and paris hilton and fucking jimmy kimmel gonna have to answer not kimmel what's the other fallon yeah too many damn jimmies man there's jimmy jimmy and james i know too much jimmy on late night just one one monopoly by that name on on late night just one Monopoly by that name On late night I'm changing my name So I have a shot at late night It's interesting I'll be interested to see if they follow through On other

People who aren't women Celebrities who a lot of people A lot of men seem to have a problem with Because it's just Interesting that she will they come from Matt Damon Right and Tom Brady That's when we know that's when because it's just interesting that she will they come from matt damon right and tom brady that's when we know that's when the question article should really be like oh um they got tom bro they got tom dude tb12 fuck touchdown tommy lena dunham is trending

because she asked in a very specific way for her flowers um dude it's like please fucking demanded them at gunpoint basically she tweeted now this has been i've only seen people's takes first they're talking about lena dumb and lena dunham this lena dunham that and i was like what the fuck is happening she tweeted yesterday quote when i go i want my casket to be driven through the nyc pride parade with a plaque that reads quote she wasn't for everyone but she was for us who can arrange huh wow a i like that you gave the canadian translation after what what say is the hell um yeah i think and then everybody was like wow you really just just patting yourself on the back there giving yourself that award like

there we're gonna make way for lena dunham's casket at the pride parade interesting man the men dude that's that's that again the confidence that like powerful white people have i'm telling you it is the most potent energy source in our world it has her saying stuff like this earnestly on on god's twitter on twitter on yeah yeah here in front of god and twitter and everyone it's very i didn't i hadn't really even associated her as like a queer icon of any of any sort uh yeah point i just know her as making obj massively uncomfortable and not really having people of color in her shows right but yeah i guess also queer icon right i at first assumed when i heard about this that somebody else had said that

and then a debate ensued where someone was like you know let's give lena dunham her flowers but it's it's rare for the celebrity themselves to say uh let's give lena dun her flowers. Am I right? Signed Lena Dunham. It's interesting. Like when you find out her backstory that she was like the daughter of two very cool, like artists, I think, and academics who always had like the editor of the New Yorker and like

various artists and um luminaries and she she would be like five and hanging out at these cocktail parties and was just like lena is so jeff lena is so adorable um i don't know if her dad's name is jeff no that was puppet puppet yeah the puppet guy jeff jeff dunham lena dunham's father your daughter is so adorable i don't know probably some weird feminist crap hey come on now don't do that bit now what the fuck she's one of them bra burners yeah that is where my my brain went when i tried to come up with lena dunham in that way i would she would be massively more interesting i like well you know growing up in that dunham house you know and you found your

way still yeah that would that would have that would be very cool if that was her backstory that she was just the hipster puppet created by jeff dunham indirectly by ignoring his children but so so it's there there is an assumption of adorableness and attention that comes with that upbringing and maybe that's maybe that's where this inclination is coming from like when your childhood is in the inside of a new yorker cartoon yes like your whole life like yeah you're gonna be insufferable as an adult i'm sorry that's that's as bad as growing up in any terrible situation on earth you know right yeah that's my take say sheen little feather uh activist who took the stage to decline marlon brando's oscar has passed away at 75 oh man and the the timing is interesting because in june the academy of motion pictures arts and

sciences apologized to her for her treatment at the oscars that night and she was like wow really okay thank you hey look uh turns out this whole industry's got a lot of apologies to hand out we're getting we're getting there we're right now we're at 19 we're in the 1970s we're gonna get we'll get to the other stuff uh eventually but there's a lot that happened in the 70s that most people don't even know about so we're gonna be here for a minute yeah yeah but did she was did she pass away of natural causes 75 i don't who knows that the life expectancy in this country has been like going down like every three minutes so yeah i'm unclear i don't i don't know that they mentioned but yeah iconic moment you know yeah iconic moment in the oscars unlike lena dunham who i'm still lena please write in let us know

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network on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you stream podcasts and we're back and dommer is trending because that show came out right on netflix yeah people are urging uh that that you did not watch it yeah don't watch it or watch it if you want you sick fucking piece of shit i was i was one step ahead of you in the not watching it category uh i had no interest the trailer was very clarifying to me of like this is something that should never be a series length entertainment of any sort right uh yeah they like everything we've been talking about i think jack maybe you you weren't here right when we discussed the darmers i don't think you were you were out when we were talking about like just

the reception and how like all the family members were like, please stop fucking doing this like over and over and over again. Like having to my phone. I'd like when my phone rings. I know it's because some Jeffrey Dahmer shit just came out and they want to ask about if you remember when your family member was brutally murdered and talking about like just how traumatic it was even to see how like painstaking the painstaking lengths they went to like recreate one of the victims like family members who watched like damn that's i thought that was fucking me for a second i don't even know what they were like what this you know the the dedication to authenticity as they put it um but a pa like there was a tweet thread from this pa that like came out that was talking about her time working on it she was one of i think one of the only two maybe black women working on the show

and she was just saying it was just an awful experience more just like the it was exhausting the you know she said that people were obviously mistaking her like in the crew for the only other black woman who like didn't look like her and just like working on it. She just felt that just was like looking at stuff that felt bad and was only, we could only imagine like what other people's experience was going to be. So, you know, a lot of people have been sort of,

I think expressing their like outrage about it. And, you know, for in this, in this instance, this was like a PA who was just like, man, it's just, it's hard to even work on it's in this instance this was like a pa who was just like man it's just

just hard to even work on a show like this um which god i can only imagine being a pa can already be a the shittiest job on set sometimes and then add to that like you know casual racism and gore and fucked up situations like on camera and then you might be like this is fucking weird yeah the obsession with dahmer has always been interesting to me because the like when I learned that Silence of the Lambs came out before Jeffrey Dahmer was caught and it really when you read the details I've always suspected like I don't know he he may or may not have actually like cannibalized people but like that is what the public and the media wanted to be true and then to use that peg of like we we were

desperate for a cannibal for because we live in a sick culture right and you know we're so desperate for a cannibal that we just keep coming back and retelling this story in new ways over the protests of the victims families is but i think they're i think they're they're a reasoning for the the showrunners is like but like what we're doing is that we're having a reckoning with the fact that his whiteness did protect him as he brutalized these like, you know, queer and mostly like men of color or whatever. And they're like, so like,

we're like, we're not ignoring that. Like, we're actually like talking about that. So can we re-traumatize you for a treat? So cool. We, yes.

Um, that for sure. The trailer also made it clear that like there was a a sandwich that they i believe invented for the story where it's like mystery meat in a sandwich that he's trying to get his neighbor to eat um and the whole thing just hinges on him eating people trying to serve people to other people and you know a lot of shit that is pretty when you look at the details is pretty sketchy but right clearly appeals to me i can't i just can't whatever the fuck is wrong with us documentaries i get like our obsession with documentaries or things like that but then like the sensational like dramatizations i'm i've never

really been even like when that like inside the mind whatever that first serial killer show that everyone was like going off going off on netflix yeah yeah part of me just like not into that like i just i don't know it just doesn't resonate with me but i know people who are just so fucking like can't put this shit down yeah uh and hey man do do you uh but yeah for me it's just sometimes it's just like i'd rather just laugh yeah and when you look at the literature on my the mind hunter thing also it's pretty much bullshit like the idea that somebody can do drop a psychological profile and then catch someone as a result of that psychological profile. It's just, it's always been a fun thing to write fiction novels about,

but, um, I don't know. It's an obsession. That'd be pretty cool, man. Hey man, I think that'd be pretty neat.

I'm a, I'm actually basically psychic when it comes to fit, finding the bad guys. I'm so fucking dangerous man I'm a dangerous person's worst nightmare figure him out whoa exactly Black Panther 2 is trending

a new trailer came out that answered a big question yeah doesn't really answer it but narrows it down because a lot of people were like so they didn't you know recast chadwick boseman after he passed uh what what are they going to do who is black panther in black who is black panther too yep and they will be referred to as black panther too throughout

throughout the film um so we got a good look at uh a new black panther and it appears to be a woman which makes sense because all the biggest badasses in that movie who aren't chadwick boseman are all women so people are still speculating you know who which of is it lapita nyong'o is it going to be letitia right like we we don't we don't know but that is it be i don't know angela bassett it could be you know i don't know could it be i believe her kicking i don't know it could be shuri but uh it seems like the books in the comic when t'challa was like indisposed shuri has become the black panther in previous comics so like there i think the the lowest hanging fruit would be that it's shuri um the trailer looked fucking cooler and the trailer looks cool as fuck yeah i just like seeing like big groups of people rolling

up on something yeah i just like to see a mob pull up like that's it totally like it is there are multiple shots of just gathering like people just gathering for that run up on somebody like oh yeah again if just i don't know scratching like this very primordial itch in my brain of like big group big group hunting other group or something but, there's like one shot of all the sea people who are led by Namor. I forget. I don't know the lore yet, but they're swimming underneath a boat. And I was like, oh, this shit's going down.

I thought that was them swimming under the whale that they all ride into battle. Oh, shit. Atlanteans. Thank you. Super producer Ian came through with the help side right there. Oh my god I'm so embarrassed I'm fucking this is so humiliating I'm sorry

anyways this movie still looks awesome yeah even without the like weird Kendrick Lamar edit that like brought me to tears in the first to last teaser so they did it with regular music this time and I was like I gotta see it and then finally,

Herschel Walker is trending. Um, yeah, he's got some interesting ideas about what's the direction this country is going. If, if you know, you,

you follow, if you follow a progressive path, they're going to make you move into your electric car. Mm. Mm. Mm. Right now, I think,

uh, it seems like Warnock is potentially leading. Okay. Just a little bit. Right now, I think it seems like Warnock is potentially leading. Just a little bit. But again, it doesn't really matter as we saw over the weekend in Brazil where they were like, yeah, Lula's running away with it. And then it's like, okay, right. There are limits to polling.

But yes, Herschel Walker is... That election ended up being much closer than expected. Lula still won the election, but it's going to a runoff because nobody got 50 so lula v bolsonaro two coming to yes with the help of neymar jr um but yeah there's this clip of ursula walker senate candidate who is again doing this thing where you hear a progressive policy and then turn it into the dumbest possible thing that no one would ever ask somebody to do. It's like a straw man riff gun.

It's like its own. Yeah, it's truly. I mean, we see many versions, but Herschel Walker has been putting his own brand of it on, like, you know, like how he was talking about we need to plant more trees and stuff. And that's what the Green New Deal was. it on like you know like how he was talking about we need to plant more trees and stuff and that's what the green new deal was um this one is now about solar panels and we'll just experience his genius about talking um about the solar panels and what joe biden is really trying to get us to do you know they're talking about an electric car solar panels it's like right now solar panels hold on okay he just said right now we're talking about electric car time jump solar panels. Hold on. Okay, he just said, right now we're talking about electric car.

Time jump, solar panels. Oh, wait. No, there wasn't an edit there, Miles. No. That was just a time jump inside his mind. I just want to let you know that that's how smooth this dude pivoted off. I'll do it one more time to get how smooth this pivot was. You know, they're talking about an electric car, solar panels. It's like, right now, solar panels.

I want to afford groceries. I want to afford eggs and milk. You're talking about me getting solar panels. You're going now solar panels i want to afford groceries i want to afford eggs and milk you're talking about me getting solar panels gonna be a tax credit to buy an electric car that's cost more than my house first of all the tax credit isn't meant to force you into buying a car it's incentivizing yeah that's actually okay like gives you money but okay i like that but i get it i get it i'll put the solar panel on the roof of my house, on the roof of my car, and that's where I'm living in. I said, let's get down to the true fact. One more time.

More than my house. So I'm going to put a solar panel on the roof of my house, on the roof of my car, and that's where I'm living in. I said, let's get down to the true fact. The true facts are, this is not the new normal for us i don't even know what that part meant but the going from yeah it is a it's a particular we've talked before about the gish gallop where you put words and ideas in the mouths of your opponent and you do and there is so many leaps inside of them that it makes it really hard for your opponent but it

works explain all the intricacies of why what you're saying is not true um he he has a very like loose way of gish galloping by with word association and yes dream logic that's really it was a freestyle rapper right rather than fucking shilling for fascism like use your word association skills for good mr head injury please so he went from they want you to buy electric cars solar panels to solar panels which you get because you can it's because evs are better for the environment environment and a very optimal energy mix situation you know they want me to put solar panels on my electric car which that would be great if we have cars that were but here's the thing you want me to buy ev that's worth more than my house so if i get these solar panels i guess i

have to put it on my car because it's worth more than my house with that logic. But again, it's the same shit they do to just completely try and make a progressive policy seem like just bonkers shit. Like just the same shit like with trans people when they said, and you know, kids are now identifying as like cats and they want litter boxes in the schools. I've seen this. i haven't but that's the same logic where someone goes wait what is trans what is gender identity what is this what is what does this mean yeah whoa people identify but they are a man and they identify what's next then even like with the gay marriage oh what's next you will marry your horse no one is going to marry their fucking horse

except for a very specific group of people and that we already don't worry about them right like all the time so it's very easy to then just go oh joe byron said he wants to stop people from coming over the border the border is made of fentanyl so if people are going through the border they're getting fentanyl on them and then when they come to your town if you take a big whiff near them you could overdose on fentanyl huh okay that's true i mean facts where are you gonna get to the part where you make something up yeah sorry sometimes the world works well sometimes i stumble upon a truth every now and then inadvertently but yeah it, we'll see where this goes.

But still a very close race. Everything's too close for comfort. All right. Those are six of the things that are trending on this Monday, October 3rd. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine.

Get the flu shot. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper

into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just

a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed

the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.