The Daily Zeitgeist - Laziness Icon Ben Carson, Captain Marvel Gives MRAs Red Pill Suppository 3.19.19

Episode Date: March 19, 2019

In episode 351, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss Captain Marvel continuing to kill it at the box office, Kirsten Gillibrand announcing her presidential campaign again, Ben Carson's laziness, Trump backing Jeanine Pirro, Beto bringing in the money, The Other Two, Pizza Hut and Little Caesars trying to kill us, a new Bear Grylls interactive Netflix series, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. 'Captain Marvel' Tops $760 Million Worldwide as Newcomers Overperform2. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand formally launches presidential campaign3. Ben Carson's schedule shows Friday trips to Florida, lunch with My Pillow founder4. President Trump Backs Fox News Host Jeanine Pirro After Her Saturday Night Absence5. Beto O’Rourke pulled in a massive fundraising haul — and 2020 competitors are noticing6. With Shows Like ‘The Other Two,’ Comedy Central Looks Beyond Its Core7. Pizza Hut and Little Caesars bringing back p’blasts from the p’ast8. Bear Grylls Will Now Torture Himself In A Netflix Interactive Series9. WATCH: Karen O & Danger Mouse - LUX PRIMA Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Courtesy of At-Hannah Soltis. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Said you gotta fight! For your sight to Miles Gray wow only know how to fucking scream that or else it sounds really lame not that that's not any better but thank you to Andrew Thomas at

AP Thomas 24 for that one that was really good and I feel like Jamie and I failed. Well, I'll introduce our second or our third guest. We're thrilled to be joined by the original J-Lo, Lil' Zam,

first face on Mount Zeitman. She is Jamie Loftus. Do you even Jamie Liftus, bro? His favorite one I've been waiting to use forever. Do you even Jamie lift us, bro? Is a favorite one I've been waiting to use forever. Jamie lift us. Do you even Jamie lift us, bro? Jam Zam, thank you, ma'am.

Wow. The Sugar Plum Furry. Don't love that one. I'm just reading off one that I've got going. I don't have a sing one today. I was just going to say, I think... The founder of Cracked. Oh, yeah.

The founder of Cracked. That's right. Hell yeah. Whenever he says co-founded, he always leaves room to acknowledge you. I was taking up too much space. Make yourself smaller with your voice. I was a big fan of that growing up, like in high school and middle school. Yeah, it really did kind of open my eyes.

You did a great job. To a lot of things. Cool. Not to impugn your musical accompaniment. I just, I think I fucked up the musical accompaniment and then either you nailed it and I just had a different song in my head or you fucked it up in a completely different way.

That's fair. Either way, Miles, I apologize. I feel like we failed you. No, no. It took me a second. It took me, you came in so, you know, it's like when someone starts their performance and you're just like, whoa, I mean, just in awe. And then I'm like, oh no, I'm in the band. You know when that happens? Three, four, Jamie. That would happen to Ringo all the time. He'd be like, man, John Lennon's so talented. And then he'd forget to drum.

Right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, Jamie, we're going to take our listeners through a few of the things we're talking about today. We're talking about Captain Marvel continuing to just destroy the box office. You're going to get the rare content recommendation

from Miles and I. We're going to talk about a bunch of politics stuff. Kirsten Gillibrand, Ben Carson, what he's been up to. All the greats. All the greats. Trump and just his angry, angry weekend and all sorts of stuff. But first, Jamie, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

I've got two because Miles just made me Google something before we started. My first one was going to be Joe Rogan's savage moments. Nice. Because it's a search that will bring you all sorts of things uh it'll bring you moments that are not savage it'll bring you mostly joe rogan sweating uh but i love i i am very fascinated from a cultural perspective of the savage moments sub-genre of YouTube. Yeah. Every prominent figure, but usually, like, vaguely right-leaning assholes have, I mean, the Ben Shapiro Savage Moment, there's feature-length Savage Moments reels of him just being... Just owning the libs.

Just absolutely demolishing the libs. But they're, yeah, I've been doing a lot of research on how, like, people like Joe Rogan and Adam Carolla and all those people sort of, they're not outright the worst ever, but they lend their platform to people who are the worst ever. And that's, like, the beginning of the YouTube algorithm fuckery. And so, and that starts in the Joe Rogan Savage Moments genre. You know who also has Savage Moments mashups? A lot of divas.

Yes. Like there's a J-Lo one. So shady. Those are Savage Moments I can get behind. I mean, there is the good side of Savage Moments, and then there's the dark side of Savage Moments. Everything has two sides. We all know this.

And then the thing I searched for miles right before you came in, Jack, was Jay and Silent Bob do Degrassi. Wait, did that happen? Because we were reminiscing about our Kevin Smith memories we have, and then she was like, yo, did you know Jay and Silent Bob were even on Degrassi? I did not know, or Degrassi, however you say it. Did not know. It came out in 2005.

Drake was still there. This was like peak me. I built my life around degrassi draft kings peak draft we were all there inside joke for nobody jamie uh referenced a period of time in the past as peak draft king it was early 2015 that was before they knew it was illegal but the late aughts draft king was king on every corner it was a. It was the late aughts. Draft King was king. Draft King. On every corner. It was Draft King on every corner.

They controlled this neighborhood. It was a doo-wop group on every corner. But Jay and Silent Bob, they just went to Degrassi in 2005 and they built a whole special around it. It was a big deal. What was the lesson? They just were like,

yeah, we're looking for a cool high school to shoot our movie at. Oh, really? Her high school is called Degrassi. And everyone in Degrassi, it's crazy because it's like I didn't know who they were. Right, right. And everyone who was watching that show was my age, so I don't think anyone my age knew who they were. But everyone at Degrassi was like, oh, my God, Jay and Silent Bob.

I was like, how do you know who they are? Right. I don't know. It was a good special, though. That's actually remarkable because you think about it, like what, Clerks came out in 94, 95 or something like that? Yeah, that's way before you were born. They're literally kids who are not up on black and white weird indie darling film movies. But everyone at Degrassi was like, this is unbelievable.

What's the connective tissue between Red Bank, New Jersey and Degrassi High School? You know what I mean? I would have to guess it has something to do with the original Degrassi series. Because I feel like the original Degrassi series was airing during peak Jay and Silent Bob. Oh, okay. But I don't really know. I don't know. We'll have to find out.

I'm sure some Canadian zeitgang or New Jersey zeitgang will know. Yes, please. Please enlighten us. Please. What is something you think is underrated? Something I think is underrated is the music of Dori Previn. Is anyone familiar with Dori Previn? So I was doing research for an episode of Bechdelcast where we just did Rosemary's Baby.

So I was reading a lot about Mia Farrow. Anyways, Dori Previn was a songwriter for a lot of famous movies in the 50s and 60s. And then her husband left her for a very young Mia Farrow. She had a lot of mental illness struggles and she made some of like the best, like some of my favorite music ever. She wrote after she had spent all this time in mental institutions. And she just wrote like the I mean talk about savage moments she wrote she wrote some of the best like most concise call-out songs uh that but they're folk songs it's just like everyone should check out her music she's like so extremely slept

on um and her husband was also a famous musician Andre Previn, and he just died. But like all of her solo work is so good. And it's all like it's just it's like about mental health. But it's also like, fuck me, a pharaoh. It's like it's about it's about everything. And she has like a very fascinating life story. I want there to be a movie about her. I just love her so much. And so she's always underrated.

I mean, just reading about some of the way she writes is very very interesting like very heavy subjects but that's interesting that it's approached like through folk like the folk genre yeah but talking about like stockholm syndrome it's yeah but the songs are like funny and self-aware like it's it all the the subject matter is tragic but she makes it so like accessible and and interesting to listen to. It's like Weird Al? Check her out. Yeah, she's kind of the Weird Al of her time.

Okay. But yeah, I love her. Beware of young girls. Is that one about Mia Farrow? Beware of young girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who come to your door and fuck your husband. That's not how it goes.

And fuck your husband. That's very direct. Fuck your husband, whatever. Yeah, it goes. And fuck your husband. Fuck your husband. Very direct. Fuck your husband. Whatever. Yeah, it gets really petulant by the second verse. Like, I don't care. I'm fine. I'm actually not even writing it because it bothers me. I'm just writing this because that's the truth.

She also wrote the theme song to Valley of the Dolls. That's probably her most famous mainstream work. Oh, okay. But she wrote all this movie music. Damn. Dory. Dory. R.I.P.p dory she's the best that's awesome she passed in 2012 yeah many years ago so i said i called 2010 not that long ago

recently so i mean 2012 that's like pre-draft games that's a fucking wow is that pdf Is that PDF? What is something you think is overrated? Oh, overrated is forming an impromptu friend group. I got stranded. Wait, what? Okay. So I got stranded in Indianapolis last night. I came here from the airport. I've been wearing these clothes for three days.

But I got stranded with a few other people and and in indianapolis last night the airline all sent us to the same hotel and we were all you know we're it was kind of a breakfast club vibe everyone had a different story we weren't all going to the same state we're all just we had all missed this connecting flight and that one of the guys who was the worst of them was like what if we all just went to the bar and got to know each other it was on St. Patrick's Day it was just like this Indianapolis hotel bar everyone was blackout drunk and there were like three of us we had nothing in common nothing to talk about I have so much anxiety I know it was

sounds like my fucking literal nightmare. I was so, and I'm not good at like, I mean, I should have just been like, no, I'm tired and my flight is at 6 a.m. But I was like, he was so, he was a salesman, man. And he was a salesman. Yeah, yeah. And you're like, do I do it for the story? Right.

He was just like, no, I mean, this could be, maybe this for a reason. Right. Maybe. Wait, describe the participants. There's Jamieie loftus famous prop comedian and feminist icon it's me it's uh the ringleader who i would say was maybe in his early 30s. And salesman. A salesman. I don't know of what. He's just like, I work in sales.

I was like, okay, cool. Just doing my own thing. And you didn't ask him to elaborate? I mean, that's a golden opportunity to really hear about the process. No, he did that horrible thing that guys do sometimes where he kept reminding me he was engaged.

And I'm like, what do you think is going to happen? But he's like, hey, you want another beer I'm engaged so right he's like let's all hang out I mean like I got a fiance and everything I was like do you think we're gonna fuck you it was me and then there was like a woman who was maybe in her

50s and very like wanted to be there even less than I did I know basically nothing about her except that she's just trying to get home to her kids. Holy shit. Somehow been dragged into Blackout Fest 2019. No, I'm picturing the

mom from Home Alone here. I'm sure that's what everyone else is picturing. Catherine O'Hara? She was so tired. And we just got steamrolled by this fucking chode who just didn't want to eat mozzarella sticks by himself. We all got shuttled back to the place together so that was where the idea came from oh it's like we're not all gonna go back

to our rooms right it's early and also they're like dude united gave us a ten dollar food voucher you think i'm gonna not use that and that was the argument that i was like damn they did give us a ten dollar food voucher i've been checkmated. I've been checkmated. I could get two blue moons. That's two blue moons in Indiana. Oh, shit. $10. You got to use that.

I did. In my mind, $10 doesn't even get you a beer at a hotel in LA. Exactly, exactly. And I was like, oh, okay, Indianapolis Airport Hotel. That's two beers for the $10 food voucher. But it was just, it was fucking painful. I was like, hey, did everyone see Captain Marvel? And then the guy was very much like,

he didn't say like, don't care for women, but basically then he was like, not for me, not for me. Not for me, based on her comments from her press tour. I'm not into chick flicks. Somebody call Oceans 8 chick flicks, or a chick flick to me. I was like, because it's women? Yeah.

What else would you call it? Right. So, yeah, thinking that that would ever- Wait, don't you always have strange misadventures when you go to Indianapolis? Or Indiana last time? Yeah, because last year it was that guy, Tim, who, oh, maybe I should say, but the guy who was like vice president of Gays with Guns. Wait, I like how you even make it more specific.

You can actually connect those two. But that's a crazy thing. And then he was like gentrifying that neighborhood and he had like those apartment buildings and was like, look at the apartment buildings. But it was like an Airbnb sitch. Very cursed Airbnb. But he's like, do you want to have wine? Yeah, yes.

We got very drunk. We got fucked up. And he had so many guns. So this year was way, way better. I loved, I just, I want to say I love performing in Indiana is the absolute best. There were so many, so many Zeitgang people who were at the show, including Joey, who I promised to give a shout out to because today is his birthday. No, he said he loved you in that tweet.

And then after the fact was like, oh, I love the rest of y'all too. Yeah. All right, Joey. Glad you could think of us'all too. Yeah. All right, Joey. Glad you could think of us. Glad you could remember who we are, Joey. It's always like the outside of the shows, my social interactions in Indiana have been universally very weird. Yeah. Yeah.

But I feel like every time a comedian is asked about like surprisingly great places or like their favorite places in America to perform, Indiana's always in there for some reason. Yeah, it is. It's a blast. I just wish I hadn't been trapped there with those two people who did not want to talk to me. And finally, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

That Irish people have a good sense of humor about themselves. Oh. It's around... Whoa. Well, listen, I'm half Irish. Okay. I sense of humor about themselves. Uh, uh, it's around. Whoa. I, well, listen, I'm half Irish.

Okay. I'm half my, yeah. So I'm just curious. Not that that was an interesting take. I'm like, what, where,

what happened? It's going to fight me. No, it's well around, uh, St. Patrick's day every year, this pops up between my,

my former coworkers and I at the Boston globe where I wrote a piece in early 2015, Peak Draft Kings. Okay, yeah. PDF. Picturing it. Okay, yeah. I wrote a piece about I just shadowed a bartender in Southie in Boston during St. Patrick's Day and just wrote about his day and like how crazy it was and everyone was drunk and all this stuff. and just wrote about his day and how crazy it was and everyone was drunk and all this stuff. And for some reason, someone had a vested interest

in going after the people who wrote for this website at this time. And there was a whole- The Boston Globe? The Boston Globe. And it was like a separate, it was boston.com. It's needlessly complicated. But the Boston Herald published a print story the next day about how I was wrong to say that people were drunk on St. Patrick's Day. In Boston.

And they got a state representative to make a quote against me. Every day is a drunk day in Southie, but St. Patty's Day runs by a completely separate set of laws, wrote Loftus, whose website says she's also a stand-up and sketch performer. How did they convey that disgust in that text? And then, quote, I'm surprised such bigoted views are still tolerated at Boston.com, said U.S. Representative Stephen Lynch. It's very disrespectful, added former Mayor Raymond L. Flynn. We experienced the finest day of our lives yesterday with family, faith, and friends. We could dismiss these comments as from uninformed people.

They don't know us. Holy shit. St. Patrick's Day for Irish people is usually about faith. They fucking came for me. Yeah, when I saw what was going on in the Sunset Strip yesterday, it looked like a lot of people, faith-based activity. Yeah, just a lot of prayer. Yeah.

I mean, in that bar in Indianapolis, we were all pray. Yeah, I mean, Colossians 3, 8, I believe, says, Vomit in the streets to show thine faith. Yes, exactly. I mean, and so I learned. You don't have to obscure what St. Patrick's Day is about. Some people want to respect it for that day. A lot of people

just take it as drink fest in March. Yeah. Anyway. Shout out to Irish music to get the Irish back on our side. I went to a couple of things of live Irish music, and one of them was good. Hell yeah.

Like some fiddling? Yeah, like fiddling and weird instruments. And there was a woman doing the jig thing that was sort of a dance. Those classes, the Irish dancing classes. It's hard. Listen to these great Irish-Americans still holding up their tradition. You know, weird instruments and that lady doing that.

It's a lot of fun. Anyways, I just wanted to honor my heritage with that hyper specific call out of an art form that I am very well acquainted with. That one guy was playing on that stick. And we love that about them. We love that.

Yes. All right. Let's talk about the box office, guys. It's been a bad couple weeks for those dudes who stage boycotts every time a movie comes out starring a woman or black person because Captain Marvel is destroying at the box office uh Jamie you just did a great episode of your podcast the Bechdel cast about Captain Marvel uh but it's had one of the best holds and it's second weekend out of any Marvel movie, and it's just doing huge, huge business. Last Tuesday, it had the biggest Tuesday in a march for a film. Yeah.

I think after Beauty and the Beast. I still don't get why people loved that movie, but that's a whole separate discussion. But, yeah, no, I'm stoked that it's – Oh, Beauty and the Beast? Yeah, Beauty and the Beast. Okay, just to be clear no no still don't know why right what if that was my take one against everything the beast you're

like what no we're talking about okay no i thought beauty and the beast was scary to watch um but uh captain i mean captain marvel is like it it does the best for like family film, too, like a role model like her. And even when I went to see it, for the small gripes that I had with it, seeing an audience full of, it was mostly kids. And Edgar was there, weirdly. Those two things were not related. Dressed as a kid. Edgar was not there with a bunch of kids. He just happened to be there.

He happened to be there. And then we watched it. Y'all were at the same showing? We were at the same showing. And then we saw each other and we watched the very end together. He's like,

you here alone too? Okay, cool. Can we sit together? No, Edgar was there with friends. I was there by myself. I love watching movies by myself. I do too. And then Edgar did that thing.

God damn it. He was just like, you want to come sit with us? I was like, yes. Because you're like in the back corner by the exit. Miles, what's going on? There were two of our sister network's cultural podcasts there, and neither of us made it.

We got to work harder. It's because we're not very social. That's true. You guys just are free in the middle of the day, like me and – It was a matinee. It was a matinee on a weekday too so we could

you know we can we can put this show on the side to hang out you know we're down to hang

you know you guys chill if y'all would hit me up you know I'd probably be there but you guys were saying on Bechdelcast that like

there's no love interest which I hadn't really thought about but like in Wonder Woman like Chris Pine's there for some reason. For some, I mean, I thank you for saying which Chris it was because I cannot, I cannot distinguish. I think I got it right, right?

I think that that's right. Yeah. And then, yeah, there's no, there's no room for a love interest in that story. Just like you don't need it. Jam packed. Yeah. She doesn't have like revealing clothing. She's not like all smiley and warm.

I think you guys were pointing out that typically if a Hollywood studio is going to put a big gamble on a movie starring a woman, they're like, okay, but here's what we know about women, guys. They're half naked all the time on an island with each other. They're naked. They're horny. Right. They're unable to control their emotions. There has to be a makeover. There's no makeover

sequence in this movie, which feels like a miracle. I'm sorry, Amal. I know you love makeovers. Without the gay best friend being like, honey, we need to give you a makeover. Right. Just like queer code they'll never say and we never see them again. Right. That's a really good point, though. Wonder Woman does have a makeover

scene where she like goes into the store and like tries to dress like a lady. These glasses? No, these glasses. And they're like, are you fucking kidding me? So I'm, it definitely and I just like love Brie Larson too and everything she like stands for. She's cool. Yes. Awesome.

Yeah. Well, keep going out and seeing this if you haven't seen it already. Edgar and I are going to go again. No, I'm kidding. I don't know. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Yeah. Apparently there's more than just two this time uh but yeah kirsten gillibrand has announced she's running which it's not a mandela effect it's i think a confusing rollout because she went on colbert and had a moment where she announced she was quote putting together an exploratory committee. Would you call it a moment or a savage moment? It was a savage. Definitely a savage.

Oh, for sure. The whole bear blew out of his seat right after. I'm just not here to, I don't have time for moments. Right. But I guess the theory is that you announce your exploratory committee and then you announce that you're actually running and you don't even have to do that hops from it in the right but even then everyone like the way everyone responded to her saying that might as well have been the announcement because let's be real you're forming that committee yeah because you're you're more than likely about to run right i mean you're on

a show like it's yeah it was a weird time to use a show like to be like and i'm putting together not yet though right don't get your hopes up i'm dabbling but then now you know she put out the Yeah, it was a weird time to use a show to be like, and I'm putting together a commitment. Not yet, though. Right. Don't get your hopes up. I'm dabbling. But then now she put out the video to say, yes, I am entering the race. I'm going to be brave 2020 or something around bravery is the theme. But she did it like everyone else has done with the most vague video possible. Right.

So you can't quite figure out what the platform is. Did you guys talk about how when Bennett O'Rourke announced his candidacy, how his wife didn't talk in the video? Yes. Yeah, okay. Just silently stood behind him or sat next to him and just nodded at him.

There's definitely an Ariel the Mermaid vibe. Can she speak? Oh no, Ursula took it. Yeah, Ursula took it. Yeah, Ursula took it. Nominate me so I can recapture my wife's voice from the evil sea. I'll kiss her before the sun sets on the third day if you vote for me.

But yeah, so we'll see what happens. It was like a two, almost three minute video with a lot of stuff about like, you know, this is the land of the free and the home of the brave and I'm transparent. And look, it's all nice. But, you know, there are so many candidates right now. It's hard for me to know who I like if I don't know what you're actually going to try to do as a president. Like I think, but I guess that's, you know, that's a strategy. You got to keep it vague up top because you want enough people to be like, oh, OK, this video was nonspecific enough

that I feel like I can warm up to this candidate. And then we'll let policy positions come out slowly. So she says it's the land of the free and the home of the brave? Yeah. Wow. That's something that's unique. That's ballsy. But she says if you look at the lyrics, it's actually asking the question if this country is.

Oh, fuck. Oh, yeah. So we have to confirm that, in fact, it is. Right. so we have to confirm that in fact it is right uh so you know if there's anything i've learned over the past few weeks it's that announcing you're running for president is so embarrassing it's like telling someone you have a podcast yeah yeah it is it's usually like yeah i mean like i understand why i'm doing it but i don't feel good telling you that i'm doing it right right right so if you would participate in it but also no pressure no pressure like it. Like, up to you. It's like, not cool.

Because I'm not like super aggressive about it. You know what I mean? I think it's kind of whack. And then be really vague about what the podcast is about. If you're too specific, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I tell people.

Oh, it's about culture. You know? I do feel like as of right now, with a few exceptions, the 2020 Democratic announcements have mostly been about game theory more than anything. It's just everybody positioning themselves relative to everybody else. So if somebody adopts something that people see, give them a little bump in the numbers, then everybody adopts it really quickly so that everyone's huddled together and nobody separates. It's like Green New Deal. It's like, yeah oh i think that's tight right any other opinions on i agree i like that right what about medicare for all oh yeah that's that's fucking that's that's chill too but there's a question mark at the end like i like that and then it's like oh no i i don't right i

mean i think you know elizabeth warren to her, she's actually been putting out like policy papers where you're like, here's my plan for unfucking housing, like erasing racist housing practices. And even Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington, we know he's like climate change. I'm trying to do something about it. So I'm like, OK, there's a climate change guy. There's the other person. Everyone else just seems like they're only in buckets of like, are they Green New Deal or are they Medicare for All or are they not?

I appreciate the candidates that have been putting something out. They're like some sort of like, oh, you have prepared for this. Yeah, and again, it's early. So like you say, Jack, it's a lot of gamesmanship, game theory going on

to figure out, you know, what do I, what am I really throwing down? Or it's on the cover of a magazine just being like, I wanna. I want it. I know. Okay, fine.

He's got good momentum. We'll talk about that a little bit later too. Yeah. So taking a step back, let's look at four years ago, there was also a crowded Republican nomination process going on. nomination process going on. And one of the hot out of the box candidates was the always vigorous and exciting Ben Carson. Dr. Ben Carson.

Dr. Ben. The woke doctor himself. Yes. Who always appears to be half asleep. So he did not win. I don't know if you guys were into politics, but he didn't win president. But he did get- But he came really close. Right, right.

But he did get the job of running HUD from the guy who won, which is Donald Trump. Ah, okay. I don't know if you guys- The guy from the Pizza Hut commercial. Right, right. Oh, I liked his work there. Yes. What happened to that?

I don't know. I guess he's- Oh, Pizza Hut. I don't know. He's doing- Oh, yeah. But this has always been very weird that he's running HUD. It never made sense.

It never made any sense. He's not a person with any experience in policy. He's a person with experience in pediatric brain surgery. Yeah, maybe Trump was like, don't worry, Ben, it's not brain surgery. Running HUD. And he liked the joke so much. Yeah, he's like, I'm honestly, guys, running HUD is just like, and he's like, okay, I'll take the job.

And do you think it was maybe because it had HUD is housing and urban development? Of course. It had the word urban in it. Yeah. He was like, shout out to urbans. Right. I guess maybe because he grew up in public housing, that was the one connective tissue.

He's like, well, he grew up like that. It was a vastly different time. Yeah. But it's such a massively important position that it just, again, it makes sense because everybody who had a massively important position just came from the fucking swamp and just were like, I don't want to do anything, but I want a job. And like Scott Pruitt, he did a good job of completely fucking up the EPA

and having a laugh about it. But he, I mean, you would think because Ben Carson is not traditionally qualified for the position, he would be like Scott Pruitt, like aware that people are paying attention to him and, you know, like working extra around the clock trying to figure out how to get it in. I think he's smart enough to know like I can stay in the job if i stay out of the headlines and how do i do that by not doing anything and i'll never generate any controversy because i will do nothing and that is precisely what he's been doing because we just got a 31 week uh schedule of his to see what the fuck he's been up to and my man has been doing nothing that is unfortunately one of the more like effective people who have been appointed because at least he hasn't been like imploding it right yeah but just nothing has improved and nothing has changed

i mean he's definitely had some he's made some shitty decisions on on certain things but not in the aggressive way that'll be like, like policy people were like, oh, that's fucked up. Yeah. But not like where Pruitt's like, hi, go get this mattress for me. Right. You know, or like,

can you give me those Dean and DeLuca like snacks I like on the Secret Service dime? Anyway, so they looked at this calendar through a Freedom of Information Act request and they basically said, you know, they looked at a lot of the Fridays. For the most part, he worked a eight or nine hour day, but on Fridays, baby, a Freedom of Information Act request. And they basically said, you know, they looked at a lot of the Fridays. For the most part, he worked an eight or nine hour day.

But on Fridays, baby, he had to keep those days holy because my man can't work too much. So they said when they were looking at it, for five of the Fridays, he was off or had no appointments. He had three day weekends? Five more Fridays. He left before 2 p.m. to get to the airport to fly to South Florida, where he owns a $4.3 million mansion. For the remaining six they were looking at, he had no scheduled appointments past 3 p.m. And in all, he made a dozen weekend trips to South Florida during the 31 weeks. huddled up with housing and urban development senior staff once a week but other departments

like transportation treasury labor they were doing it either you know daily or multiple times a week meeting up because you know he can't really be

bogged down with work right and just a few other you know he liked to when he'd have lunch like with one of the authors of like chicken soup for the soul or like the fucking

my pillow guy when he was in New York so wait he he knows my pillowillow guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're great friends. That's what we do.

I expected more of MyPillow guy. Wait, who's the MyPillow guy? I don't know, but if he's friends with- It's that infomercial? You've never seen that? No. Honestly, I've had a MyPillow for years and I love that shit. No.

Oh, really? MyPillow fucks with Ben Carson. I love my MyPillow. Well, he's also a big Trump dude, too. I need to be more critical of who I'm buying my pillows from. Yeah, but I mean, he looks so enthusiastic about those pillows. He loves those pillows. Yeah, how can you blame him?

And he makes a great pillow. It's hard. It's hard. I mean, look. Sacrifices have to be made. Hey, pillows over politics is what I would say. Because you got to rest your head on one. Wasn't there also a controversy where they were spending a lot of money on redoing the office?

This is something that never happens. Like the person comes in and is like, we need to redesign the shit out of this place. Like it's usually a long, like decades in between any redesign. But every Trump person just came in and was like, this isn't gonna do. They're like, I can spend money? Okay. I think he spent,

it was something like he was about to spend $30,000 on furniture, and one of them was a table that was over 10K or something like that. And then he blamed it on his wife. Yeah, and then he's like, I don't know, my wife, I don't even know what I was about to do with Trump.

You know, she handles that, so you're gonna have to ask her. She handles the table budget? Like passing it off. No, she doesn't. Yeah. And then even like after all of this, like NBC was the one who first reported on this. Ben Carson had a reply.

He just said, while the role of a cabinet secretary is to advise the president and run their agency, the role of NBC seems to be spinning incomplete information and misinforming the public. Looks like we are both doing our jobs. You got fucking burnt. That's a Ben Carson savage moment. The guy who said same-sex marriage is like bestiality. So, you know, he's got a long road ahead of him.

But he's actually out in 2020. He announced it fairly quickly. He's like, can't do another term. He's like, I'm out. This is exhausting. There's kids out in 2020. He announced it fairly quickly. He's like, can't do another term. He's like, I'm out. This is exhausting. There's kids out there who need brain surgery again. Yeah. So, you know, I hope Dr. Ben can focus on that.

Bye bye, Dr. Ben. That is wild that he is such a, because not only is he taking the job of somebody competent who should be doing that job, but he's removing himself from the field of pediatric neurosurgeons, which he's reportedly competent at. So he's like fucking two jobs.

Oh, wow. Never thought about that. So go back to what you're good at, man. Sadly, we're like, go back to brain surgery. Surgeons are a very specific set of skills. Skills. I don't mean to sound like Liam Neeson, but it's more like fighter pilot than genius.

It's like you have to be good at intense situations. Or pod racer. Right. Episode one, Phantom Menace. Yeah, pod racer is a good example. Sebulba, he was great with his hands. Thank you for putting it in terms of is ben carson sebulba fan theory

uh let's talk about the weekend that trump had um yo he tweeted so much 50 some over like 50 something tweets 20 retweets you know it spanned from retweeting like people who read about q anon conspiracy theories pizza Pizzagate, another person who said the New Zealand shootings were just, you know, like a sort of a false flag to just create stricter gun laws. Right. He didn't retweet that particular theory. Yeah. And a lot of these things were people who were like out there, those kinds of conspiracy theories, not journalists, but it's like, oh, these are the people in your timeline? Yeah. And I mean, his timeline basically looked like any other racist septuagenarian who has

Twitter, where it's just like wacky takes. Yeah. And there were a few things that I think inspired this tweet storm, as they call it in the news. I think one of them was A, that he was trying to do a little spin. Right. Because according to the Mosque Shooter's manifesto, he was trying to do a little spin because according to the mosque shooter's manifesto, he was having to do a lot of damage control because the shooter referred to Trump as, quote, a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose.

So that a lot of people have been like, huh, interesting. How do you come back from that? Yeah. So he was, you know, he was also mad because Jeanine Pirro, who's one of his most loyal defenders on Fox News, who will fucking say anything to defend him, had her show pulled on Saturday. That upset him because, you know, after

all of her Islamophobic remarks the week before and saying that, like, you know, Ilhan Omar is obviously supports Sharia law because she's a hijabi, like, was just like, ooh. And Fox found a line, apparently, I think it was the advertisers leaving because they give a fuck that they were like okay we got to pull this show on Saturday

and he was like where'd it go blah blah blah because I think he really could have used Janine Pirro coming out on Saturday being like now before you all want to blame the president right let's take a moment to look you know and I think that's needed that. I didn't know that Jeanine Pirro existed before the jinx. Right. God, what a journey. Yeah, yeah. What a journey of what a situation. And she was like, took a massive L trying to prosecute him.

She was like, man, he got away with it. Hey, how are you going to convict that guy? I mean, he's a master criminal. Right. I think what we learned is Durst innocent. Right, Durst innocent. Yeah. master criminal right i think what we learned is durst innocent but then right yeah uh and in no way is it obvious that he committed all the crimes uh because he was high on meth the whole time yeah and the only crime he committed was burping without covering his mouth right let's be real

uh but i think the other thing that sort of started more conversation was uh after all these tweets george why the fuck am i still married to keyanne Conway, got on Twitter and was like, his mental state is deteriorating. Yes. And was just sort of saying, like, can we please just consider what is actually going on with the president? Right. Somebody was like, oh, this is obviously the president trying to distract from the pending drop of the Mueller report. And he was like, no, actually, it's probably like you are being too rational and you have to view it. And this is a guy, by the way, who's married to like the Trump's lead advisor who allegedly openly talks shit about him behind closed doors. So he has some insight and he's basically like, no, the message is the brain disorder.

It's his pathology. Right. It's just his pathology speaking. Like he is all sorts of fucked up. And I think people have called him a narcissist before. I think we called him, I called him a narcissist like four or five years ago when he was first running for president. I think that point has been made. And I think typically you always refer to him as someone with that kind of narcissism. Right.

Yeah. And I think typically you always refer to him as someone with that kind of narcissism. Right. But every time, it's good once in a while to just read the symptoms just to remind yourself how open and shut the case is. Because like Wonkette, when they were talking about this, they were just put all those tweets and were just like, we're just going to put these things here. And they're like, hashtag we are not doctors as they put it. But look at this list. Because, yeah, we're not doctors as they put it but look at this list because yeah we're not doctors but the checklist is eerie yeah a pervasive pattern of grandiosity in fantasy or behavior need for admiration and lack of empathy beginning by early adulthood

has a grandiose sense of self-importance. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. Believes that he or she is special and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with other special or high status people. Requires excessive admiration. Has a sense of entitlement. has a sense of entitlement, is interpersonally exploitative, which reminds me of the Michael Cohen thing where he was talking about how Trump would, every time he strong-armed somebody

into accepting less than they had agreed to, he would see Trump get a high from it, like get a dopamine hit from learning that he had successfully fucked somebody over. Next, lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. See, that's where they got him wrong. And then is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her, shows

arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes. It's just like. I'm interested in where, I mean, with this election cycle already happening, where people will fall on like the Goldwater rule this time around, because there was so much talk about it in the 2016 election of people were constantly talking about Trump's mental state and have never stopped because it seems like a legitimate issue. Well, when you have the nuclear codes. Exactly. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, it seems like it should be on the table, but it's like you don't want to be armchair diagnosing people. Right. But I don't know. I mean, I think that that rule should change.

Not that it's a hard and fast rule. It's just like a rule of ethics, basically. But the Goldwater rule, I don't have the exact wording of it, but it's basically just like that candidates shouldn't be mentally diagnosing each other and that discussing candidates' mental state should be sort of off the – you shouldn't be allowed to do that. It originates because of Barry Goldwater. Right. So it actually applies to just any diagnosis of somebody who you haven't had an actual clinical consultation with. Oh, like what we're doing right now. Right.

And we're not even psychiatrists. The Goldwater Rule is the informal name given to Section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's Principles of Medical Ethics, which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person. It's fine if we do it. Yeah, it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person. It's fine if we do it. Yeah, it is. And then it goes on. It says it is ethical for podcasters to give a professional opinion about the chodiness of someone they have not examined in person. Well, because that is like what we are experts in.

Yeah. But it's weird. I mean, like all the psychiatrists who like back in 2016 were like something is clearly wrong with this person. They get dumped on by fellow psychiatrists because of this rule. And I don't know. I mean, it seems like maybe there should be some sort of, especially if for the most part, except for that one kind of bogus, like he's mentally fit. They talk to him. He's fine.

That was weird when they're like, what is this? And it was like an elephant. They're like, see, he knows what an elephant is. Yeah. It was a lion. Oh, boy. Maybe I a lion. Oh boy. Maybe I need to get some help. But yeah,

I, it's, you know, it's eerie. And again, yeah, we don't want to sit here and, you know,

speculate, but I think it's fine. When you have a, just a pattern, right. Of even like when you even look at antisocial personality disorder of like a pervasive pattern of disregard for in violation of the rights of others, failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as

indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest. Deceitfulness as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases or conning others for personal profit or pleasure. I mean, is this the, you don't want to, but you hope that there are people around that can, I guess.

So the thing to think about is how do you get around the Goldwater rule while like, you know, substantively assessing this person's mental state? Right. I mean, I don't think that that's a question that's ever been like effectively addressed to someone who's currently in office. Like if you look at, was it like Reagan's last term, like he was visibly suffering from dementia, and people came clean about that later. But there at the time, it was just hidden and just concealed. And it doesn't seem like that's ever been addressed in a way that wasn't covered to some extent by an administration. Right. And there's the 25th Amendment, but that's obviously a really high bar to ask his cabinet to come together and, you know, remove him from office so that he can then be forced to see a psychiatrist who then gives a diagnosis that, you know, otherwise it's just impossible because he's a sociopathological liar who's never going to.

And will like not comply with things the way a normal president would right well at least uh kellyanne conaway was like i disagree with him her like comments or something like day did you see it and she without answers like oh i was getting the kids ready and i i didn't i don't know what the latest thing he tweeted was but uh i think i think the president's a good man and then later on was like you guys should really read the shooter's manifesto and you'll see that it was her way of trying to be like it wasn't about trump like her solution was to do the thing the shooter wants people to do right is to read the manifesto so it was just you know an odd day for it all right we're gonna take another quick break we'll

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He had a record-breaking first day of fundraising, 6.1 million. That's because he got on that table. Right, exactly. Oh, yeah. A record previously held by Bernie Sanders when he raised 5.9 million. This earlier, like a couple months ago or last month. Yeah. So that's big news. It's good momentum.

A lot of people want to be dismissive because things are very vague. Right. From the Beto camp. We're like, where do you stand? I mean, we generally understand you're like you want to fight for immigrants rights right what else i mean you did say good things then but as president where do you see yourself going we're still at that 10 000 foot view yeah we'll see what that whittles down to but gets on table i i'm open to him right now i mean just the optics of him to me is very like CVS brand Kennedy.

Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, look, it's impressive to raise $6.1 million in 24 hours from small dollar donor. That's impressive. It was all small dollar? Yeah. I mean, I think he's running his shit the same way. I'm just sort of like, I'm not really interested in PAC money.

Got it. So, but I think with that said also, he has probably one of the most extensive donor lists right now because of his race with Ted Cruz that brought national attention. Yeah. So versus like a lot of these other candidates, like Beto probably has like the most robust small donor machine running just because of proximity to the last race. But again, not to shade the man because that's still a lot of money. And that's clearly an indication that people are really invested in him.

With that said, the GOP had to come for him because on St. Patrick's Day, my God, we have come full circle with the GOP. day my god we have come full circle with the gop because if it wasn't people who are muslim or immigrants or black people or lgbtq or from shitholes or whatever other group the republicans like to you know smear and disparage they've now come for the irish uh they posted his mugshot from 1998 with a crudely like clip-arted leprechaun hat on top with the thing that you get, the sort of board you hold up in your mugshot meant to look like that that just says, please drink responsibly. And it says, on this St. Paddy's Day,

a special message from noted Irishman Robert Francis O'Rourke. What the? I'm even confused. Weird shade. I mean. We're going anti-white racism now? Right. The GOP?

They got there. I don't. I mean. Listen, what would Representative Stephen Lynch have to say about this? Right. Exactly. It would be a bloodbath. They.

I'm just over here fuming. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Right. They. I mean, they got ratio to hell on this one. But it's just an odd. I mean, this is the whole thing.

Like last time they were like, yo, but also Beto has white privilege. Right. And that's why Obama's better because he's a black man who suffered. Right. We talked last week about their Beto isn't actually woke campaign from the GOP. Right. It's just odd. But now to be like-

Noted experts on wokeness. I guess just the- Republican Party. This like trope of like drunk Irish person is just really like, what do they think is going to happen? Is that just to remind people? I think they're just trying to disarm the idea

that people may think he is Latinx in some way. Right. I think they bring that out a lot. They're like Robert Francis O'Rourke. They like to say that instead of Beto. Right. Well, yes. Because they think that makes him seem...

Oh, that wasn't clear to me at all. Okay. I guess, but then why do a mugshot with a leprechaun hat and be like, please drink responsibly, unlike this drunk guy who we're saying we're connecting his Irishness to his criminal past. Yeah, kind of a mess of a tweet attack. Yeah.

It's not going well. I mean, they have to put a silly hat on him to make him look not cool. Yeah, because the comments are like, this is actually the hottest picture of Beto. If the GOP is going to fucking wreck the universe the universe they gotta get some better graphic design like it's just it's embarrassing it's lazy clip art, lazy racism embarrassing yeah

hot pick of Beto it is a hot mugshot because it does seem like they're going backwards in their racism like Irish I think were the last white group to be accepted as a white person. So let's keep an eye on them and Italians because that's who they'd be coming from next.

Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. Huh. Maybe their new social media person is a time traveler? That's entirely possible. I think another cool thing, if you want some pitches, is something with Geppetto, but Gebetto. Oh, yeah. Like making a puppet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. But then he would be controlling the strings, whereas you want him to be the puppet of somebody. I don't know. It all depends, baby. It's malleable.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. We can make work. Pinocchio Rourke. Okay. There's another one if you want to go with Rourke. What if he is the puppet master and the puppet? He's working his own strings. Chippetto. Chippetto. Chippetto. Chippetto. Chippetto. Chippetto. Okay. There's another one. What if he is the puppet master and the puppet?

He's working his own strings. Both. Yeah. But the strings are all tangled, so as to indicate maybe it's not going to end well. Conflicts of interest. Instrings. Instrings. Conflicts of instrings.

Oh, man. I haven't slept in three days. Are you Irish, Miles? No. I'm what Trump made fun of Joe Biden for slipping up. I don't know if that was another thing. Joe Biden was like- He's a low IQ individual. Low IQ. I'm what Trump made fun of Joe Biden for slipping up. I don't know if that was another thing. Joe Biden was like.

Low IQ individual. All because he said, of all the people who are running, he's like, I have the best experience of all the people who are running. Or I mean, who might possibly run. Like he stumbled over that. And Trump was like, oh my God, can you believe it? He's probably having some kind of massive brain issue right now. Yeah. Trump never.

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Yeah. We rarely come on here and do pop culture recommendations because shit's subjective. But I've been recommending a show to you, Miles, for a couple weeks now. You finally checked it out. Finally did it when you threatened me with my livelihood. Yes, and you liked it too. And I feel like it's not getting that much run, so I wanted to tell people to check it out, the other two.

Oh, I love you. Have you watched it? Yeah. Yeah, Drew Tarver is so good in it. I didn't know how good Drew Tarver was. Yeah. And just the conceit is great. It's about two elder millennial scum kids

whose youngest brother who's like 14 basically becomes the new Bieber and them dealing with it. I was really impressed. Some of the writing moments were so fucking funny to me and I've, and again it's one of those things, it's like I almost prioritize knowing about what's coming out on

streaming platforms than I do the regular cable network. So it's on Comedy Central, which is, I think, how it might have gotten by some people. Right. Even like Detroiters I found out about too late. It's also really hard to stream anything on Comedy Central. It's basically impossible. Yeah, exactly. But it's a really good show.

It's written by Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider who were both former head writers of SNL and Chris Kelly wrote and directed Other People, I think, is what it's called.

That was on what, Hulu? That was a feature. I don't know where it was. Oh wait, what am I thinking of? I know what you're thinking of and I also thought

it was on Hulu. Was there a show called Other People? Difficult People. Right? Isn't that the one? Oh, it was Billy Eich, what am I thinking of? I know what you're thinking of and I also thought it was on Hulu. Was there a show called Difficult People? Oh, with Billy Eichner. See, I'm getting it all mixed up. Don't know what to do. Too much content. Right. Anyway, that was our lukewarm

endorsement of that show. Check it out. It's very good. Especially if you're an old-ass millennial like me. It's very joke-dense and yeah, you'll like it. Pizza Hut and Little Caesars are in a race to kill us, it would appear. Yeah. They brought back menu items that are on the extreme end of decadent, it seems like. Yeah.

Wait, which one? I've had them all for sure. Okay, well, the first one isn't necessarily like a Hellspun mixture from the Fires of Mordor, but it's the Pizone from Pizza Hut. It's back, baby. Was it gone? It was gone. Shit.

And this thing- Oh, no. I mean, look, you can get all kinds of feelings, whatever. It's from March Madness. The thing that impresses me about this, it debuted 17 years ago, right? For $6.99. You know what the cost is now? What? Guess.

Is it less? Yes. It's $5. Wow! So that is what I call progress. I like that. It should be more affordable to kill yourself. Where are they saving that money? Is it in the affordable to kill yourself. Where are they saving that money? Is it in the ingredients?

Oh, I'm sure. Everything has air quotes around it. It's like with sausage and onion. I wasn't a big fan of the poisson. I definitely had a couple, but it was a little too dense. Too bready. Very bready, yeah. It's not really delivering on the fillings.

It's a little, look, this photo, a little misleading. It acts like the fillings to end to end, but you're going to be eating a hockey puck of bread by the end of that thing. Honestly, the photo doesn't even look that good. There's no cheese strings connecting it. Yeah, it just looks like it. Yeah. Snapped in half.

Okay, well, then you might like this one. Okay. Because Little Caesars has another. They have something else for you that didn't appeal to you. What do you like? Bacon, you freak? Well, guess what? They got it.

They call it the bacon-wrapped deep, deep dish. It's a Detroit-style pizza, according to the press release. And it's an eight-corner deep dish pizza. Oh, I think maybe an eight-inch corner. Anyway, whatever. Essentially, the thing that gets me is it's wrapped in a wall of over three and a half feet of whole strips of thick cut crispy bacon. What?

So it's basically like just the borders are bacon. The top is bacon. And then on top of that, it has meat toppings. Yeah. So, yo, RIP your colon, RIP your blood pressure, RIP, RIP, RIP. I mean, I have to try that. On a special, yeah, could we get one and then we could all share it maybe? Or maybe we get two.

Jack has a family to think about. This is true. They need you alive. Look at the- No one's living for me. Yeah, I'm ready. Talk about bready. My dad can drive a car.

He's fine. This looks very bready, though. If you look at the place where it's cut, it's not like one of those deep dishes where the filling and cheese. It's like concave. Yeah, it's just all. It's just resting on top of a bread sheet.

Yeah, sheet of bread. Well, look, but that's why the bacon is there to make the bread more. See, because when I look at the pizone, it just looks like scraped bread. It looks, yeah, it looks kind of shitty. With Parmesan keloids. Yes. And finally, you guys,

there's a new trend coming after Black Mirror did Bandersnatch. The interactive TV show is coming your way because that was a hit. Had a little moment, as we always say on this show. Bit of a moan.

A bit of a moan. With your cough. Sav moans. We were all there. Oh yeah, if you have Bandersnatch Sav Moan montages, let us know. Made him eat the wrong cereal. Sav moans.

Sav moans. So Netflix just announced a new show with Bear Grylls called You Versus Wild, where Bear will be at the mercy of the viewer as he explores jungles and mountains and any other location they can make look more dangerous than it actually is. Wow. Do you remember that lava cliff thing? That sounds kind of fun. He was in Hawaii when he's like, this bitch, something could happen. And then like someone just went to where that was actually shot and it's like just off of a road.

Like it's not even remote and it's like the stretch isn't even like harrowing. But, you know, they're clever. They hit the right angles. I was convinced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But maybe, I don't know, like it's sort of essentially meant to be like he would get to a frozen lake and be like, do I step over this or do I belly crawl over this?

Is the idea that this is happening in real time? No, I think it's just like Bandersnatch. It's all pre-taped. I hope it's real Bandersnatch and it's like, kill your dad, drink tea. But with Bear Grylls. Yo, he looks weathered. Oh, no.

Where's he been? From what it looks like, asleep in the desert with no sunscreen. Oh, wow. It is. I mean, look, the man has been out here in the wild for a while. So he's not really out there with La Mer moisturizer every night. He's not getting Botox in the wild. No, and I don't know what his night regimen is,

but can I suggest some kind of serum? Bear Grylls do not drop your skin routine. We don't need it. I mean, it's an interesting idea because this is like, you can almost act out your wild man fantasies through the show and be like, maybe I do know how to survive.

And then inevitably, there's probably got to be things that will get Bear into trouble. Right. But nobody asked for this. Yeah. But I'm still, you know, sometimes. But I don't hate it. No.

Sometimes. Just like that bacon wrapped pizza. I didn't know I needed that. Yeah. Until somebody forced it on me. I'll give that a fair shake. Were you ever a fan of like Man vs. Wild? I like, not when it was airing,

but it was one of those shows that where it was on, I would never turn it off. I would never seek Bear, but when Bear found me, I would let it happen. Is Bear Grylls canceled? What happened to him? Was the biggest controversy just that he was faking stuff? Because I know he was sleeping in luxury hotels and shit

during the filming of Man vs. Wild. I think that doesn't bother me. Yo, he's fucking at this hotel right now. I mean, whatever. It's TV. I actually feel bad for people who are like, wow, this guy's really doing it because TV is real. Well, he's like the son of a British conservative. I'm sure there's some fucked up stuff in there.

I honestly don't know that much about the life of Bear Grylls. Yeah. Well, I'm sure we'll find out. We will. That is what we need, a the life of Bear Grylls. Yeah. Well, I'm sure we'll find out. We will. That is what we need, a biopic of Bear Grylls. This makes me just raise an eyebrow at Netflix. Like, is this where we're at? We're at, like, Bear Grylls?

Yeah. That sort of seems like they spun a wheel. They're like, okay, interactive. Okay, people who are going to be brought out of retirement at some point. Bear grill. Does he look like a mixture of Christian Bale and Shia LaBeouf? Ooh, I buy that. I see the Christian Bale a lot.

I see a lot of Shia in there too. Anyway, you tell us what face math equations you've come up with. Come up with? I gotta go, dude. Miles is always come up. I've come up. Hey, I come up with that idea last week. Oh my go, dude. Miles is always cummed up. Hey, I cummed up with that idea last week. Oh my god, sir.

Cummed up the works on that one. Jamie, it's been a pleasure having you as always. Thanks for having me. Go out on top, you know. Leave them laughing. Where can people find you? You can find me on twitter.com

at Jamie Loftus help the micro blogging site yeah I've been micro blogging for about half my life that's upsetting to think about and on instagram at Jamie Cray superstar yeah great follow

Miles where can people find you you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at miles ofgray. I tweet that I like a couple. One is from Guy Branum. It says, the body positivity movement is by and for extremely conventionally hot people who suffer from sometimes not feeling quite as conventionally hot as they know they are. Your struggle is real.

Don't let anyone silence you. Real Guy coming with it. Guy's savage moment. We all know who he's thinking of when he writes that, too. And then another one was just a video, but it's just kind of funny because whenever Chicago dies at Rivergreen for St. Patrick's Day, great. But someone at Two Claws Media says, you, oh, look, they died the river green. Me, an artist, oh, look, they dyed the river green me an artist oh look they dyed the river chroma key green and chroma key green is industry talk for what the color of the green screen is so

this video is just this person just putting all kinds of other shit in the river i thought it was very clever i've got i've got a danny fernandez tweet do it that came from uh the jk rowling uh person i love to roast, the J.K. Rowling stuff that happened over the weekend where she once again popped her head out of the sand and was like, Dumbledore and Grindelwald fucked hard. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Again, I don't say that because I know who you're talking about, but who came on was just sort of saying like, I think it was Dani who points that out, is that J.K. Rowling just likes to be like, like oh and here's this thing i've talked about it as well it makes me so i'm not a fan of harry potter oh maybe it was you yeah so when someone's always edit like editing the one good thing they wrote and to be like but they were that yeah no there

were queer people and people of color you just never saw them in the books or in the movies but so she popped her head out she's like they fucked hard and they have a they have a really awesome house in palm springs right so there were all these tweets over the weekend but i loved are in the movies. But so she popped her head out and she's like, they fucked hard. And they have a really awesome house in Palm Springs. Right. So there were all these tweets over the weekend, but I loved Danny's

where it's like, me, says nothing, JK Rowling, Hagrid has paid for feet pics. That's so good. You can find me on Twitter, also,

same microblogging site that Jamie writes for, at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Kyle, at Kyle Plant Emoji tweeted, setting barbecue joint. Her, what's your opinion on brisket? Me, wiping sauce on my shirt. I don't actually know a lot about UK politics.

And then just by your logic tweeted world historically bad hypothetical and I don't know where it's from but someone tweeted a picture of a fruit plate and then if you were offered $20,000 to eat this whole fruit platter by yourself

in one week would you be able to do it? It looks like it would take you maybe 40 able to do it? It looks like it would take you maybe 40 minutes. Wait, what was the amount? One week and $20,000. It's like you would accidentally eat it in a week if it was in your refrigerator. And then also Britt Bennett tweeted,

first kid up at the sleepover is a personality type. Damn. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on, Miles.

that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. You know, a few weeks ago, we played a song that was this album with Karen Oh from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Shout out to Polish-Korean biracials out there. And Danger Mouse. And the album came out. It's pretty good.

And this is a track off the new album Lux Prima. And it's called, wouldn't you know it, Lux Prima. So check it out, y'all. A song that the album is named after? I've never seen anything like this. Can you think of another album that did that? Wait, she's half Korean? Yeah, she's half Korean and half Polish.

Yeah, a lot of people don't know, but see, us half Asians, we keep an eye out there for each other. Oh, yes. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, and we will talk to you then. Bye. Bye. Bye. But you I'm nowhere

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