The Daily Zeitgeist - LEAKS Aren’t The Problem, Nun Pulls HUGE Scam 6.14.21

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

In episode 929, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Chris Gethard to discuss Southern vaccination rates, how hunts for leaks are a danger to democracy, other billionaires wanting to go to space, a nun on the run, pop-culture cereal, and more!FOOTNOTES: Here’s Who’s Facing a Nightmare ‘Vaxx Summer’ Hunting leaks, Trump officials subpoenaed Apple for data of 2 Democrats in Congress If Donald Trump Targets Journalists, Thank Obama Billionaire Tax Leak Referred to FBI as Probe Grows, IRS Says Unconfirmed report suggests Branson may try to beat Bezos into space — and Virgin Galactic didn't deny it Despite her vow of poverty, nun stole more than $835,000 from a Catholic school, prosecutors said Lucky Charms Releases Limited-Edition 'Loki Charms' Cereal in Honor of Marvel Series — Here's How to Get a Box You Had One Job, Ghostbusters: Afterlife Cereal Things We Saw Today: Is This Baby Yoda Cereal the Stuff of Dreams or Nightmares? Son of a Nutcracker! General Mills Is Releasing Elf Cereal to Sweeten the Holiday Season Super Bowl: When Tie-In Novelty Cereals Ruled the 1980s Laura Stevenson – “State” CHRIS GETHARD: HALF MY LIFE LISTEN: Peggy Gou - Nabi (feat. OHHYUK) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is courtesy of official dickhead and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray yes it's miles gray aka hideo noho i am feeling nostalgic for the dodgers because i just went to a dodger game for the first time with my mom and the last time she was at dodger Stadium, she was helping Hideo Nomo as an interpreter his rookie season. So I just want to honor, yes, my North Hollywood, my Japanese, American roots, all of them at once. Yes. I thought that was just a cool screen name. I didn't know you had that connect.

So you've met Nomo? Yes. You've met Nomo, Mr. Dicey? Oh, yo, I was in a photo shoot. Like when he came over here, they're like, oh, Hideo Nomo is now living the L.A. life. And my mom had to do some like casting to make it look like, you know, Hideo Nomo just like casually playing like sports with some American kids on the beach. So she hired me and my my homie DJ who looked like just a California surfer kid. Right. Like we were playing catch with him on the beach.

It was a fantastic time. Fantastic. Oh, here, I'll show you this picture right here. Whoa. It's me and Nomo on the beach and DJ. I mean, you guys look like a boy band more than you look like you're playing catch. I kept trying to get him to throw the ball at me

full speed and everyone laughed. I'm like, no, I want to see. You're 12 and this guy's a professional pitcher. You could die if anything, the ball hits you. So whatever. He was scared. What's the top speed of a wiffle ball, like fastball from a Hideo Nomo? How fast can he get that shit going?

That's a question for the Zeitgang scientists out there. Maybe our guest. Well, yeah, maybe. Speaking of our guest, super producer Ana Hosnier continuing to kill it with yet another legendary guest. He's the host of the podcast Beautiful Stories from Anonymous People,

his new comedy special and documentary Half My Life, getting rave reviews. You may know him if you're one of the handful of fans of a couple small shows called the office parks and rec he's the host of the legendary the chris gethard show uh which makes sense because he is chris gethard what's up everybody it's me chris gethard aka andy scoffman aka david betterman aka schlock jock coward stern there it is sorry i wanted to see

if i could hang with your bit thank you for coming on man oh it's lovely to be here thanks for thanks for the kind intro and whatnot where are you coming to us from where yet where yet i'm uh well i'm based in new jersey but currently i'm waiting in a hotel room in vancouver because i have an acting job on space force on netflix and they make you sit in a hotel room in Vancouver because I have an acting job on Space Force on Netflix. And they make you sit in a hotel for two full weeks, even though I'm fully vaccinated. And kudos to the Canadian government for playing it safe. But man, am I starting to lose my mind. In your mind, did you bring things with you to quarantine?

Were you like, oh man, I'll bring like an instrument or something? Or what do you do? So many people told me to buy a Nintendo Switch. I had multiple people tell me, go get a Nintendo Switch. But I stopped gaming in college because I was in college when Goldeneye came out. And I hit a phase where every, literally every night, all my dreams would be that I was running down hallways. And I was like, oh, this is not good. Because also like later would be proven true that

i can have some addictive tendencies in other ways so i said i've always just like gaming is just i know it'll become a 22 hour a day thing right and get the switch and i wish i did because it would give me more to do and then of course i told myself no i'll use this as like a creative boot camp and it's like no what i'll do is i'll watch nba playoff games but since i'm on west coast time and i'm used to east coast time that's like the games are at like four and then i have no idea what to do for the rest of my night so yeah that's so funny man i'm also someone who ended up having addictive tendencies who also quit playing video games in college because i was like,

man, this could, this could really get out of hand. It was getting bad. And they were turning me into like an angry. I was like, people would like beat me in a game of golden. I,

and I'd be like, it's only because you used odd job and pick Brock's mind. And we all know that those are two cheats and those are not the same skill. And I'd be like, what am I like screaming at my friend, like my friend, Katie, who lives down the hall, like'm like screaming at my friend, like my friend Katie,

who lives down the hall. Like, like screaming at her. Fuck you, Katie. You picked odd job. This bullshit. I told you I'm not doing golden gun on the silo level again. Yeah, let's run that shit back without prox mines

and see how it goes. Fuck it, let's go all mines. Let's go all mines. Let's go all mines. Mine only. Maybe this is not the best side of myself. Yeah. All right, Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going

to talk about those dang Southern vax rates. Bit slower pace of life down there and a bit slower to come around on the whole vaccine thing. So we'll talk about that and why that might be a problem. We'll talk about the second act of the story about how billionaires don't pay any taxes, which is the hunt for who leaked that shit. Who the fuck told you that? Hey, who told you that? The old who told you that argument? You know, somebody. Yeah, must be innocent if that's their first response. Who told you that? No, no. Who told you that argument you you know uh somebody yeah must be innocent if that's their

first response who told you that no no who told you uh we're gonna talk about drought conditions out west uh we're gonna talk about a nun on the run kind of we're gonna talk about other billionaire assholes who want to go to space ask the question of whether we are on the cusp of a pop culture serial renaissance all of that plenty more but first chris we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are well i have one from last night and i'd like to blame this on being in this like very strict quarantine where i'm bored but this is something you could find in my search history on any given night, which is I recently did search

Roddy Piper, Greg the Hammer Valentine dog collar match. So I wanted to watch that dog collar match from 1983. And I couldn't find a full video of the dog collar match. I didn't search too hard because I actually found an oral history of the 1983 Greg the Hammer Valentine and Roddy Piper dog collar match. So I did spend a chunk of last night reading an oral history of a very bloody wrestling match from 1983.

And I'll stand by that. What is a dog collar match for our listeners who are uninitiated? Dog collar match. I don't know if it was a thing that preexisted these guys, but they would do this match where they both put a leather collar around their neck and then they were connected neck to neck via these chains beat it stuff yeah it just had these brutally violent they'd wrap their fists in the chains and they drag each other across the ring by the chain and really like bloody brutal match and uh i was reading last night i didn't realize there's

this famous one from 1983 and then i didn't realize it was so popular they had to go around the country and do like all the different territories and they wound up doing this match 40 times that year and they both talked like talking about how like i think roddy piper his ear was torn in half and they both had like semi-permanent hearing loss from it by the end. Like all this, all this insanity that these wrestlers put us through back then. And you think back in those days too, when you're like, this was not like, this was like pre Hogan becoming like pop culture superstar. This was for them. Like, all right, I guess we got to go like entertain the southern half of louisiana by

ripping our ears off tonight right next week i guess we'll be up in omaha ripping our other ear off yeah maybe only wrap the chain like three times around my face this time before you rip it off yeah can you maybe take out my teeth my ears are still healing aim for my teeth this time the photos look pretty erotic, though. When you look at the still images, you're like, whoa, okay. I see what's going on here, WWF. It is pro wrestling. There's always going to be some homoeroticism inherited.

Some fans might not like to admit that, but let's call it what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like wrestling back then was closer to being being a carny or like in the circus, I guess, would be the closer thing where you came to town. People came and saw you, but it wasn't it wasn't on TNT. That blew my mind when I realized that they also did shows that weren't televised because I went to one and I was like, wait, where are the cameras? And like, this isn't this is an exhibition. And I was like, what?

They do this all the time? Like almost kill themselves? Cool. I'm really fascinated too. Back in those days when it was the territories, like John Darnell from the Mountain Goats has this famous story I love where he grew up in Southern California

and hated Roddy Piper. Roddy Piper was like the biggest asshole, the enemy of the Guerrero family. And then he went to visit his dad up in Portland, Oregon, and he took him to wrestling matches. And they introduced Roddy Piper and John was ready to like boo his head off and everybody started cheering. Because in Portland, they were just running a different storyline. But because there was no national TV, it was like, oh, you can be like actually causing riots in LA through your like bad guy heel anti-mexican rants and then up in portland you are like a beloved hero pillar of the community they love you right it's not even

that far away yeah they might not have had to change the storyline that much yeah i was gonna say in oregon background that's true yeah you You are somebody who I've always been interested to hear talk about kind of regionalisms. I think it was on Beautiful Anonymous, you talked about just weird New Jersey early on. That always got me fascinated. That site is pretty incredible. I worked for them. For anyone who doesn't know, that's a magazine about sort of like ghosts and local legends in Jersey. I worked for them for four or who doesn't know, that's a magazine about ghosts and local legends in Jersey. I worked for them for four or five years in my early 20s, and it's the best job I will ever have. Wait, it's called Weird New Jersey?

Yeah. Oh, I love that. It started out as a fanzine, and it just kept getting more and more cult access in Jersey. A lot of people, if you've been to a Barnes & Noble, may know that like I wound up writing a book called Weird New York and then they did Weird US and then all these different states. It became this like coffee table book series. But the beating heart of it has always been this kind of underground fanzine in New Jersey. And I was very, very lucky to find it when I did. And I encountered some situations that were truly foolish and terrifying.

And I can't believe it was a gig. And it sort of helped me realize going on to be in entertainment, I always felt like it was one of these things that gave me a little bit of an advantage where I was like, there's all these rules here, but I also know that you might be able to make a healthy living off of a fanzine about New Jersey-based ghosts. So I never felt the total need to buy in on the system side of things right right they're a big part of why and i do think there's something about new jersey that's like a click up in terms of just weirdness i don't know maybe through your research into new york you found that

wasn't true but like oh it totally is yeah my family uh has a story that my grandma and my aunt when my aunt was a child broke down on the i think it was jersey turnpike it might have been like another highway around there but like by the pine barrens and a guy just came out of the pines with a hammer and was attacking the car and they had to like run there back then like the way you called for help was there was like a phone every like quarter mile oh a call box yeah yeah call box and so they were like running back and forth to the call box while this guy kept running out of the pines with a hammer just like covered in mud trying to attack their car classic pineys they there's they call them pineys the people who kind of live within

the pine barrens and do their own thing and my friend group i sadly was not there this particular night but my friend group has this story from high school that we all still say this phrase to each other where they were going to see some punk show in a place called browns mills new jersey which is we were north jersey kids the pine barren Barrens. That was like trying to go to Mordor to us. It didn't make sense. No GPS back then. They got super lost, and they pulled into this shady-looking gas station that looked like it was off a movie set in the middle of the Pine Barrens. This guy comes out, and they just go,

Hey, can you help us out? How do you get to Browns Mills? The guy just took a deep breath and turned and just turned to them and inexplicably went, How do you get to brown's mills and the guy just took a deep breath and turned and just turned to them and inexplicably went how do you get to brown's mills and they just like hit the gas and peeled out and got out of there they're like this south jersey i'm there nonsense what was that sea captain yeah shit still certain friends in my life where if I want to make them laugh, I'll just go, how do you get to Brownsville? What is something you think is overrated, Chris? People get mad at me when I say this.

I don't understand our obsession with LaCroix. It's a perfectly fine seltzer, but it doesn't need to be like the building block of people's parties and welcomes. I feel like people almost feel like they're showing off. Like, hey, can I get you something? You want some water or maybe a LaCroix? And they expect you to kind of be taken aback by that as you've leveled up. can I get you something? You want some water or maybe a LaCroix?

And they expect you to kind of be taken aback by that as you've leveled up. And it's like, no, it's pretty, in my mind, pretty average seltzer available at many supermarkets. And that's a good product to be. I'm not trying to talk bad about LaCroix, but I don't see it as this sort of level-up moment in my day. And a lot of people flip out about LaCroix yeah I've moved on to other flavored I found superior flavored seltzers that I prefer like

I like Waterloo that one gets my palate just pumping I feel like the people I know who have like I'm really into it were people who never drank water and suddenly were like, I hate no flavor. And then they're like, you can drink something with no sugar and it's like water. And I feel like that, I know a specific energy from the soda drinkers who are trying to be healthy that now it's like, it's like their methadone or something. That might be part. I'm a very obsessive soda drinker. I'm actually, I would say kind of weird in my soda knowledge. And there might be part. I'm a very obsessive soda drinker. I'm actually, I would say, kind of weird in my soda knowledge. And there might be a part of me that feels like I'm sensing the same thing. And maybe there's some bitterness there.

Either own the fact that you like soda or don't like soda. But let's not have a weird middle ground watered down coconut soda. Let's not do that. Yeah. That's why I like Waterloo because it feels like it's just missing the high fructose corn syrup to become a full blown flavored soda. And that's what I appreciate about it. It's not subtle at all. I know that it's got sugar, but I'm like, are we really going to claim that LaCroix has taken the San Pellegrino crown? Because it used to kind of be San Pellegrino that occupied that cultural slot. And in my mind, San Pellegrino is just a better product. slot and in my mind san pellegrino is just just a better product it feels like we are in a uh in a carbonation arms race where we're just like trying to get the most carbonated beverage possible and like topo chico i think is near the near the top but like waterloo is also

hyper carbonated right it's like very yeah like if you if you close your mouth after taking a full sip like the the carbonation would just make your mouth explode because the gases would have to release like yeah oh shit just swallowed i feel like it's like the there's a spiciness like the way that people are about spicy food people are about like the carbonation has to fucking hurt like my kids call it sharp water because it like feels like you're like getting pickle pricks in your in your mouth and they like it you know right uh but it feels like their chest is gonna break open if they don't yeah it sounds like they like it in the same way we used to like like warheads and cry babies like candies that cost us pain yeah exactly which was a

really good that was a good phase of my childhood hell yeah yeah shout out to the kids that it was like their whole personality though like that for a while i remember like they were because like oh that's the warheads kid yeah like you can hand him any flavor of warhead you can stand here and watch and no tears will escape he won't even grimace he can just take down that warhead it was a major source of middle school respect in my community. Right. It becomes mythological. It's like, they did a whole pack. Like, no. Yeah. Are their parents still split up? Yeah. What is something you think is underrated, Chris? Well, I want to be clear. This is in no way any sort of like purchased branded average size but since i since i took down one

item of the of the food and beverage world i'll say my wife started bringing on these snacks and they're gonna sound like bullshit to anybody listening but they're called himalayan pink salt paleo puffs which i know sounds like something that would be like only for like meatheads who only want to eat protein. These things are the best. They're the best. And from what I can tell, very few people know about them and they're completely delicious. They're so delicious. What is it made of? What is it? What's, what is, what's puffed? I mean, the, the, the closest analogy would be to say that it is in the Cheeto family. It is in the puffy Cheeto family. But it's made with coconut oil and it's salty. It's perfect.

The company that makes them is a company called Lesser Evil Snacks. And I've started trying their other stuff too. And they got other stuff. They got these power curls. Those are pretty good. They also make, they had a watermelon flavored bag of popcorn. And I was going, what is, we're trying too hard. And I ate it i said

no what this is is refreshing and delicious but in my mind nothing holds a candle they even have like a cheese flavor like a i guess it's vegan like a no cheese cheese flavor that's meant to actually be like a cheeto those are good but these himalayan pink salt paleo puffs you put a bag in front of me, the bag will be gone. And I feel like there's a chance here that if we can get enough people on board, five years from now, they're going to be in that pantheon of here's your Lay's. Here's your Bugles. Here's your Ruffles. Here's your Himalayan pink salt paleo puffs.

Here's your Cheetos. It could be up there. It could be up there. It could be up there. They're good. They deserve it. They deserve the shine. Are they pink or is the bag just pink and the salt is pink? I think it's just referring to pink salts.

Yeah. Just pink salt. Yeah. Which is a saltier salt. It's extra salt. Yeah. They look, color-wise, they don't look like much. They kind of look almost like beige styrofoam, I'd say.

Yeah. Yeah, they look like uncheesy cheese puffs. Yeah, but ooh, are they delicious. Highly recommend. Okay. Yeah. Is this a Trader Joe's product? My wife started ordering, I know very little about,

I promise you this, I'm not like surreptitiously played to plug things my wife started ordering something stuff from a place called thrive market and i know very little about it but they had these things and i said let's get more of this it feels like this could usurp pirates booty you know what i mean that's what it is yeah i feel like that's what i think maybe i feel like if I'm working with less people, I'm like, we got to go straight for Pirate's Booty's fucking neck with these. It's the exact evolution. It's very clear. It went from Cheetos to Pirate's Booty.

We all went, oh, healthier Cheetos. And then you look at the back, you go, not necessarily that much healthier. And then Pirate's Booty to Paleo Puffs, which I'm not going to claim are healthier, but is an extension of the same mindset. Right, right, right. But they're good they're good miles i think your uh philosophy of go for their fucking neck might be a little aggressive for a company called lesser evil well you know that's why they hired me that's why i said here's the disconnect go for pirate look if we want to be lesser evil then we're gonna have lesser profits okay you feel me so

look you guys come up with the ideas i'll come up with the pr campaigns and the straight up hashtag fuck pirates booty uh well we're working on that that's gonna be misunderstood but we will figure out a way to market this but yeah that's the sort of spot i'm looking for but when you said watermelon flavored popcorn i have to circle back to that what do you mean like it evokes the flavor of like the jolly rancher fake ass watermelon like what kind of watermelon flavor are we talking here along those lines clearly it's like an artificial sure dusting but i would say it's not offensive and it's not overbearing where i went oh this feels like a gimmick and then i go oh no what this is for i imagine is if you're having people over in an outdoor setting.

This would be great on a hot day outdoors in particular. It's not meant to be like a candy. It's not like a caramel corn with like watermelon. It's like they just gave it this light touch and it's good. It's pretty good. Okay. All right. How did you guys react the first time you heard there was a snack called Pirate's Booty?

I laughed. I did too. Yeah. I think I was in high school or something when it came out. And then it was like a thing that I remember kids were bringing for their school lunch or whatever because they had younger siblings who their parents were buying it for. And I was like, what is this? And I was like, yeah, it's okay. But at the end of the day, I was like, it needs more salt.

It needs more chemicals for me to fully go there but the texture i think was the most fun was the most novel thing yeah it's a good it's got a good nosh i put it in my kids book bag this morning welcome to dad cast how old is your kid uh we got a five-year-old and a three-year-old. Oh, I have a two-year-old. Hey, we are last day of school today. Nice. Oh, shit. School's out forever now? School's out for summer, huh?

School's out forever. I've sang that a number of times, and they've been thoroughly impressed. Yeah, what's the response to that? They're like, just hand the spiky water, Dad. But I love it. Yeah. Give me some spiky water dad but i love it yeah give me some spiky water all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back definitely caruana galizia was a maltese investigative journalist who on october 16th

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A little slow? It's a little slow. And I think more than anything, there have been a lot of experts pointing to the fact that while it's great that the West Coast is definitely probably going to reach the 70% mark by the 4th of July and things like that, percent mark by the 4th of July and things like that. They're huge pockets, especially in the South where the vaccine hesitancy is creating what they believe could be a big problem because they sort of compare what happened last year and are possibly saying, could there be another wave similar to last year? Because around this time, rates were going down. The lowest point was on June 8th. We had 18,000 cases per day. But then on July 1st, it doubled to over 40,000 new cases per day. And then at the end of July, it ended up at 70,000 new cases per day. Because I think a lot of people are feeling, okay,

things are dying down. Then you had all these summer breaks and things shot right up. And at that time, the Southern US was the most affected. And at that time, the southern U.S. was the most affected. So states like Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi. And now they're looking at this and saying, you know, because now most like a lot of older people are getting vaccinated. This pocket is really probably most likely could affect young people and children because they are the like they account for the largest group of unvaccinated people. children because they are the like they account for the largest group of unvaccinated people. And there's already increased reports of variants that are affecting young people and these other things that are going on. So when experts say things like those groups are, quote, sitting ducks, that is a little alarming because I think for all of us thinking like, yes,

there as we might be vaccinated and hopefully that spells a good situation for the rest of the country. If we have like novel breakout infections in these areas, that ripple effect could go through the entire country, despite even having, you know, high vaccination rates in other places. So a lot of the time they're just saying, Hey, you don't want to just immune system your way through this one because you could essentially be transmitting new forms of the virus as well or having more severe outcomes because you're not vaccinated. Well, Southern Kitchen cooking up some new strands of COVID. Fortunately, the young are behaviorally good at avoiding exchanging saliva with strangers or sneezing in each other's mouths or wiping their nose and then just like high-fiving each other. Yeah, no, this is bad. This is not great.

We're obviously in a better position than we used to be when we weren't like 70% vaccinated in some parts of the country. Yeah, I think it just underlines how much we're still very much in a pandemic, you know, and I think as much as the this the messaging from like the media or advertisers are like hey it's time to get back out there and blah blah blah it's like well yeah on a certain level yeah we can but that's not to say that this is over and the risk is completely evaporated either have you guys had the thing happen to you yet where uh you're going back out with your friends for the first time and then you realize you're wearing slippers you forgot to put on shoes or pants uh like in that commercial my version of that was that i i you know there's comedy shows have started back

up again and i did a show with a couple friends of mine and we were in a car together and i was in the back seat and it was three of us and they were talking and I kept having those moments of like, oh, I should say this thing about what they just said. And then it would pass me by and then it'd be like, but they, okay. So they were talking about basketball, but that was three minutes ago. Is it weird if I bring it up? And I was like, oh, I, this year has been long and strange enough that I don't know how to participate in a three person in-person conversation. You're killing it on Zoom right now, Chris. Zoom feels more natural, honestly, right now. A one-on-one, I can figure out.

But when you have to get back into that pacing of, oh, there's three actual living human beings in a similar space. I'm unfortunately positioned in the one with least eye contact. I have actually human evolution. positioned in the one with least eye contact i have actually human evolution it took that quick for me to not know how to insert myself into this in any way and i don't know that that's my best skill on my on a normal year is interaction but it was profound i was i was in the backseat actually laughing like my inability to participate in this is actually pitiful. If anybody could see, it would be pitiful what's happening. Were you like about to kind of, like if we had a camera on you, would you about to be open?

I'm like, what? So much of that. So much. And you're like, wait, how long ago was that? Yeah. And then me sitting here like, well, if I talk about the peanut butter thing now, they're not even going to remember they said that.

And then the next time someone does ask me what's going on, I don't know what they're talking about currently because I've been living such a deep internal monologue. So I'm just like, oh, yeah, no, that's cool. And then it moves on beyond me. And I feel like a real piece of shit. It reminds me so much of my entire youth. Hey, remember when you guys were talking about basketball earlier? Well, here's an observation about that. Kawhi Leonard, huh?

What? Huh? He's very good at basketball, right? Offense and defense, right, guys? Yeah. Two-way player? I mean, come on. We're talking about how to get my daughter

to read more, man. Oh, right. Oh, right. Yes. Oh, yes. Since you brought up basketball, you've brought up, you've had an open and opened up very soulful, emotionally risky revelation about your daughter's cognitive abilities. Kawhi, he really knows how to poach a passing lane, right? Yeah.

Awesome. The way he puts pressure on those shooters i mean come on i feel like you're not recognizing that i just said my daughter figured out how to read and they thought she wouldn't be able to uh-huh yeah do you think the fact that he's quiet keeps him out of conversations for best right in the league a lot of people never thought kawaii would be able to shoot but he really worked on his j and now now, I mean, his mid-range game is... She can read. They told me she couldn't read.

No, she reads fluently at above her grade level. My marriage almost dissolved over this hardship, man. What? Come on. Dissolving those defenses when he's hitting that mid-range game. I mean, he's even hitting some threes now. Get out of the fucking car. now uh get out of the car get the fuck miles are you having any uh re-entry issues nah yeah i don't know i mean i've been on a plane

that's yeah like i was saying once that happens a lot has a lot of fear has subsided i think and also along with being vaccinated and being like you know for the longest time like that's the last thing i'll ever do is get on a plane with just a mask and just be like all right god let's do this yeah i think that between that and the laker game i went to and just hearing all the people scream like just animals like when the ball tipped off i was like yeah man humanity's fucking dope like let's get back into this for sure well good for you man i'm happy for you but all that to say is i was invited to like a party and i'm like part of me is like fuck man

how am i gonna do like at a like a big party and that's where i definitely am getting like gethard like three man combo anxiety and i'm like maybe i'll getting like gethered like three-man combo anxiety and I'm like maybe I'll just like sit statically at a table with one seat in front of me and be like yes I welcome one conversation participant like a performance art p like a marina bramovic stunt yeah just put this card table in front be like let's talk about 2020 shall we my first party was my my neighbor who i'm friends with was turning 40 he and his wife had a party it was like 20 people i the only people i knew were the people who were having the party and my wife was out of town unexpectedly so it was just me and i'm trying like it was fine they were all very nice

people but uh it was some intense awkwardness that i'm trying not to let you know be you know spoil me on the act of becoming social again you know it was brutal you just this this has nothing to do with the pandemic but i just had this memory come back that I haven't thought about in years because we're talking about parties and figuring out how to be in them when I was 23 I had an apartment in Montclair New Jersey and the

people who lived next to me were also young and I was just so cripplingly shy and deep in my own head and dealing with my mental stuff and actually not dealing with it and I never knew how to say hi to these people and they seemed like we in my own head and dealing with my mental stuff, and actually not dealing with it. And I never knew how to say hi to these people. And they seemed like we could have been friends.

And there was one weekend, I can't believe I haven't thought about this. And I remember one night being home and they were having this rager and I was home alone. And I'm listening to these other people in my age just have what sounds like the most fun party through the wall. And I'll never forget just sitting there being like I should just go knock on the door and say hey I live next door can I hang and I sat there on my couch too scared to do it and then I still

remember this moment in my head of just hearing and everybody was just dancing to jump around just shouting along every lyric to jump around the unmistakable dancing to jump around just shouting along every lyric to jump around the unmistakable strains of jump around sitting on my couch alone miserable

just like to the kids on the hill plus my mom and my pop I also know every word like I'm listening to all these people have fun shouting every word just mouthing the words silently just yeah quite just one tear oh man i ain't going out like no punk bitch

you might think i'm gonna go out like no because when I shoot the gift, I shoot the killer. That song and Mama Said Knock You Out, I feel like, might be the most memorized rap songs for a certain generation of people. I bet that's true. I bet that's true. All right, let's talk about Hunt's Four Leaks. This is just a story we see all the time. We kind of got a taste for it during the Trump administration when a story would come out that was based on a leak or a whistleblower. And then we would get to hear about like Trump kind of trying to ferret

out the leak. And also he would tweet. He would give us like a live look into window into his brain as he like was being furious about it. And then we kind of learned that you think that like reporters were like, you think this is bad. Obama was like worse. He like was really aggressive about going after anybody who leaked and just like digging through their emails and shit. talked about earlier last week where they leaked the tax records of individual billionaires you know they instead of it being like here are 50 anonymous people who are the richest in america they were like no you get to see who these people are because that is how we understand stories is like via these characters and like they are making themselves celebrities so we are going to use that to uh make our point and i think it was really important reporting and now the story that's being told in the mainstream is like they're hunting down the leaker uh the irs has

like referred it to the fbi and i don't know just generally in reality when you accuse someone of something and their response is who told you that and then making the entire argument about who told you that um that's usually like a pretty good sign that that person is doing something wrong what you heard is accurate to a certain extent but for some reason unless it's being done by the trump administration this hasn't really hit our brains as like an evil thing that becomes like the focus of our attention i think that it's also like a lot of these billionaires must be mad at certain other billionaires because they're not even i can't help but feel like there's something to be said for like oh elon musk is going to host snl and then jeff bezos is going to announce he's launching himself into space oh yeah like yeah

there's very little sympathy for me right now about these people's privacy rights if i'm being honest like it's going to be hard for me to go like well i would hate it if my tax info got out there like yeah but i also don't you know dominate the american economy and fight unionization and launch myself into orbit like i don't do that either so yeah i'm not gonna worry too much about how who leaked that you know but i bet that you got like warren buffett sitting around going like i play it cool i shouldn't think a lot of these people spend a lot of time and money staying directly out of the spotlight that makes it um so enjoyable to want them to get taken down they'd prefer we didn't know this they must be looking at elon going get the fuck off a live tv what's wrong with you stay off you're making it hot for the rest of the drug dealers essentially exactly that is it is interesting it's kind of become a new strategy of like like billionaires used to i guess they didn't used to lay low they

used to like buy colleges and name them after themselves so they've always liked having their name out there but it's it just seems like the trying to like chase celebrity probably like having more pr dollars spent on their own like personal image than most companies i'm sure like that seems to be a new a new angle and the thing that they've arrived on is go to space, man. People think that shit's cool. And at least a college is like, I'll put my name on this thing and other people go and learn there. And then there's Ari's, but you'll learn like, you know, like these billionaire industrialists back in the day where it's like, I'm going to build Grand Central Station because I want my city's train station to be better than anybody else. It's like you're still building a public service thing. It's like, dude, you're just going to go like read cue cards on nbc television and like smirk about it and none of us

are even sure how much of what you do is real man like right yeah i'm not gonna feel too bad when somebody's like check out the dirt i got on these people it's hitting a breaking point you know and it's yeah it's actually just really scary because it it's like, they're going to go after the leakers, but it's not like anything changed after the Panama papers either. And it's just, you've got to sit here and you wonder, Oh, it's like, it really, it really does feel like this is not going to change. They're not going to opt out of this. Like it's going to need to be taken away from them. And at that point you're talking about like, Oh, is there going to have to be like an actual like revolution against billionaires? Because it seems like they're getting a lot of chances to go at least put in a token effort to give some of this stuff back, you know?

Right. It feels that way. And I think until like culturally we shift away from just being like, oh, having a lot of money is good and cool. It will always have like this love affair with like people who like have just, oh, could you imagine that's so cool. It will always have like this love affair with like people who like have just, Oh, could you imagine that? So cool. I have so much money. Like you don't even know what to do with it. And I think slowly, I think more and more look more and more people look at billionaires and go, no, they're that's, that's bad. This they're hoarding the wealth. And that's why there's a lot of people are lacking is because these people a don't pay their fair share and

they're just concentrating all their wealth off of the backs of the people that work for them um and i think until we can like shift culture for like a billionaire or a millionaire you know some like hyper wealthy person to show up like on a screen in a sitcom and people don't go oh and they start going oh my god it's a fucking evildoer! That's, I think, the important shift that has to take place at some point, at least in popular culture. I feel like some of these

guys are really starting to come off to me like if Willy Wonka didn't share any candy. And it's like, and now you're just a psycho. You're just like a psycho in crazy clothes with a weird warehouse full of experiments. Right. And you don't even share the candy.

Like we don't even do that. He does the golden ticket thing, but he keeps them all for himself and then just makes a big deal about how much candy he can eat. He's like, damn, I got each one. Huh. Who would have thought? Yeah. I mean, to your point, Chris, I think the message of this leak is obviously the rules are broken. Right. Like it's so like there is the CNBC segment that was embedded in one of the articles about how like the IRS is hunting these people down. and the CNBC anchor was like,

it's not tax evasion, it's tax avoidance. Like, I don't see what the big deal is. And, like, one of the people, I think it was Jim Cramer, actually, on the panel, was like, ah, they're going to be mad at me, but I think these billionaires need to pay more money. And they're like, what are you talking about? How are you going to do that?

They're not booking the money, but, like, they just can't think beyond where they're refusing. Yeah, they're refusing yeah they're refusing yeah they suck the rules are bad that system is broken and to be fair how are you gonna make them book it i called him out before like in a joke but i think warren buffett is the one who has gone on record and said like they absolutely should change the law so we can stop doing this and i think he's been like yeah i do it because it's not illegal, but it should be legal. I think it was Warren Buffett who's been like, guys, if 20 of us all, that's the thing that's so maddening for the rest of us, right?

I've been very lucky. A couple of years ago, I had a couple of years I did really well, and I have some breathing room now. I'm not doing as well. And I sit and I stressed about that, but I'm very, very lucky. And even I sit here and I go, man, it really is about 20 to 30 people that if they just like, if they cut the shit to a degree that they wouldn't even notice, it would take so much stress off the rest of us. I'm not even saying take, I'm not even saying own up to it to do it to a degree that it will affect your life. It it will affect your life. It will not affect your life.

You'll only own 40% of American commerce instead of 43%. That other 3% will help so many other people get braces for their kids and shit. That's what's infuriating. You could find a middle ground where these assholes are still getting away with so much. And it erases human suffering and they don't do it. And it's weird to say, but I'm like, that's for as gross as like, you know, the Carnegie's and the Rockefellers were. At least they did go and build big train stations for the rest of us. And was it so that they could like jerk themselves off in the mirror? Yeah, sure.

But they did do something for the rest of us. Right. Yeah, absolutely. But Bezos is doing something for the rest of us, and that is going to space and showing us anything is possible with a loan from your parents. Yeah.

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Right. Yeah. He's going to go to space eventually. Right. And he's like well fuck out blue origin we want to be the first you know manned commercial flight out there and they announced the flight like a while back bezos didn't say he was gonna like so we knew this flight was gonna happen but bezos didn't say he was gonna be on that ship until last week with his brother who i still suspect is a clone that he created in order to harvest the organs because the vibe was just really weird between these quote-unquote brothers but that's for

another episode so yeah like so july 20th was like the gauntlet was put down and then richard branson's ass comes like so you know he's been talking about virgin galactic since 2004 to be fair to richard branson i feel like he was one of the first like billionaires like i gotta go to space i don't give a fuck i have the money to do it let's do this shit and apparently now there are now that these reports are unconfirmed but reports have come out that he is trying to figure out a way to go to space before Jeff Bezos now on the 4th of July weekend. So all part of this like ego match, they said, quote, a source who requested anonymity told like this person, Douglas Messier, who runs this blog about like, you know, space stuff

said that the company plans to fly Branson on a test flight of its spaceship to rocket over 4th of July. That would poise Branson to beat bezos to space by a narrow two weeks got him i mean how wild would it be if there's back-to-back disasters i know i was just gonna say there's a new challenger to the throne of first billionaire in space like this is becoming a parody of itself last time i was like this sounds like a new king ralph type opening script where someone bez Bezos tries to go to space, something goes wrong. And then some, some guy on earth ends up being like, I'm the new Bezos. But I feel like now you have Branson going up there. It's just, it feels like a, like a sketch or something the real question in my mind becomes if if something goes wrong and i'm not wishing death upon anybody but just theoretically if branson doesn't make it does bezos still go

oh right i'm doing this for richard does he back out is he like yeah maybe we need to explore this stuff more and i'll leave it to the scientists or is he like no now i get to be the first and it's even more meaningful right oh dramatic yeah i don't know i bet he would i bet yeah how how can he resist you know yeah because i think that would also like wouldn't that you know if i don't know if blue origin is publicly traded but if you suddenly backed out they'd be like well hold on the head of it won't even get on like their maiden voyage because you know all those guys they have to triangulate everything based on like value and shareholder value and all this other shit uh and like jeff is like he's like i'm so scared though richard had a bad time like he didn't readjust well in the re-entry and i don't want that you asked for this.

You announced this shit. If you back out now, the stocks are going to go to the fucking floor. Get on the fucking spaceship, you asshole. Fine, but I don't want it. He's all like crying when he gets on.

I was like, uh, I guess it was a very emotional flight for Jeff Bezos. The panic attack. Yeah, I don't know. I, I,

it's just, again, it's just so funny when it, this whole thing, while there is all this suffering on Earth, it's truly just like, nah, I want to be the first guy to build his own spaceship to go on my own. The one thing, though, that Richard Branson is running up against

is that he needs to get a license from the FAA really quick in order to do this. So who knows? The bureaucracy might end up helping Jeff Bezos in the end. If he needs help with that, I know a few people. I could pull some strings. Get him a space license.

For a space-worthy ship license? Hey, does anybody know anyone I gotta get? Gotta get my space license real quick. Wait, you said passport, right you say password wait space space license space license um i don't even know where you i'm gonna try the dm do you go to the dmv does the post office sell those like what yeah i don't know where you get them from. Fuck, I didn't get my picture. I didn't get the post office picture for my space passport. He would need to.

They said it's doable. But again, it has to be that they need a licensed commercial rocket, like a properly permitted commercial rocket launch from the FAA. I do not like this for Richard Branson, man. This sounds so half-assed. Last minute. They also say the FAA may be able to modify the license with the FAA. It's like, don't start cutting corners now.

What the fuck, y'all? I mean, yeah. Just given the upside down morality of this upside down world of billionaires, it would be fitting that the most likable of the billionaires would just blow up like a firework all right let's talk about uh a nun who's at least out here getting it for herself not not in the most not in the most

lawful of ways or uh look you know Nuns are the brides of Christ. We all know that. Anyone who went to a Catholic school has been like, oh, no, this person's real creepy. out of Southern California, was found to have been embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from the school's coffers to the tune of $835,000. And they didn't find this out till she retired. And like they did, the archdiocese did an audit and they're like, what happened here? So over like her 28 year career, she would take like donations and tuition checks and like reroute some of them to

like a convent fund that was there like a bank account that was there for the nuns in the convent to pay for whatever expenses they had but that was like her like gambler slush fund that she was using yeah she was gambling and like racking up all kinds of debt and like and just using this fund to pay it off and it's just again it ends with someone who clearly has the absolute right amount of catholic guilt they said the moment that they pressed her she like a quote as soon as she was confronted she accepted full responsibility for what she had done and she's cooperated with completely with law enforcement and the arch diocese shout out to catholicism noting that quote later in her life she's cooperated with completely with law enforcement and the archdiocese shout out to catholicism noting that quote later in her life she's been suffering from a mental illness that

clouded her judgment and caused her to do something that she otherwise would not have done now i don't know the details about that but also it sounds like maybe a lifestyle of never having fun uh contributed to this thing that clouded your judgment and something like man fuck this i can start shaving off 10 Gs at a time and get my jollies off in Vegas and stuff. And she said she's, quote, very remorseful and sorry for any harm she has caused. That's the best.

She's facing, yeah, 40 years in prison. I grew up super Catholic, and I'm thinking of the nuns I knew and the idea of them, like, stealing money and going to Atlantic City. Right. The best. What a good image

in my head i hate that that happened and those people wasted their money but a renegade nun yeah renegade nun i just don't the thing that makes me really upset is that the lack of detail of like how she spent the money because we just know the methodology for the embezzlement yeah and the amounts that were spent like i need to know like did she have like a fucking gambler persona that she like adopted when she would go out she's like the habits off i'm fine i'm like i'm head to toe on versace silk and shit like i don't i need to know these other details like what was she gambling on to like they're not wasting the money the way i play roulette and uh you know with a direct line to the lord above yeah oh she comes like fully in her garb okay yeah it's not waste when you have a faith i wonder too if the other

nuns at the convent were all of a sudden noticing like hey like where'd this 800 blender come from if there was just like all sudden like weird little upgrades at the convent and stuff like who installed this bidet someone Someone installed a bidet. Oh, I guess that was just a donation from God, you know? Just like all this luxury. Did everyone have a Vitamix in their room this morning? Did someone buy a live tiger? Does anybody know where this tiger came from?

Ah, God. These are the details that will help bring it. But that's why it's good fodder for a podcast to wildly speculate on what the nuns did. Because I knew that there was... I went to Catholic high school and there was a group of... They were mostly priests. And there weren't really nuns that were living on campus. But the way we'd always look at them, like, what do they do in that house?

They're just retired. Is our tuition paying for them to just, like, yell from their window to pull our pants up? Like, what is going on? Like, what does this fund do? Right. I went to, I didn't go to the Catholic school. My parents met at a Catholic school.

I lived down the block from it. I'm mine, too. Oh, very nice. Look at that. Super Catholic. So, you know. And I took Sunday school at that same school where they met. And we had a nun named Sister Margaret who taught the Sunday school music class. And I came home one day and I was finally old enough to go like,

I think this teacher of ours is, I think she might be like losing her mind or something. Like it's making me sad. And my dad was like, who is it? And I was like, her name's Sister Margaret. And he's like, Sister Margaret is still there? I was like, yeah. He's like, she had dementia when she taught me in the early 60s. She already had.

She was like already kind of unmoored. I think that was a moment where even my parents were kind of like, what are we paying for? Like this woman was, that was decades ago. That was decades ago. And decades ago and it's still going on yeah i love the i also love the catholic kind of loophole where you just go to confession every day and so you're like stealing money over the course of 30 years but you're just offloading that shit you're offloading that guilt just like you know like andy dufresne getting rid of the uh dirt out on the play yard yeah just like you know she's just smuggling that shit out a little bit

how many hail marys i'll be happy exactly i got time now if we can go dark have you guys had the catholic upbringing experience that i had last year of uh one of your childhood priests name shows up in a document that gets published no not yet but i also have not been paying attention yeah i had the like getting texts from old neighborhood kids like yo check this out being like what and of course it was the one who was the cool one right it was the cool priest taking kids down the Jersey Shore on the weekends. Oh, my God. No. It sucks. Yeah, there's always.

It's funny because even though I wasn't raised religious at all, just like that ended up being like the one school my friends went to that my parents could afford. So I ended up going there. But I grew up around a lot of Catholic kids, too. And like one family in particular who would have the priest over like for dinner and things like that and would drink at the house and just be like blackout. And you're like and like in my mind, I was like, is this what priests do? Like they can just get fucked up like this and then like eat all your food. And then like then the mom has to drive him home like this is normal. And then he was also like the cool one because like West Side Connection came out and he was like, all right, West Side. And we're like but i don't i never knew what happened to him and i don't want to look it up yeah don't google his

name until you're really ready so you're really ready because it was tough and i try i'll try to go back to church every couple years i'll like go back to church and be like maybe i should get back in touch with this side of myself and then i'll be like three weeks in and it'll be like so every uh every priest in Pennsylvania at some point or another had a child slave. And you're like, what? It's always the timing of it. It's always some horrific thing happens

right when I'm like, maybe I can, oh, the Pope is cool now. That makes sense. Got a cool Pope now. Maybe I'll try to get back into it. Yeah, we got a cool Pope. And just horrific abuse

just coming out from the past, from the very recent past. All right, one last story. Let's talk about the resurgence of pop culture serials. Lucky Charms has come out with Loki Charms in honor of the new Loki streaming series, which, I mean, I don't hate it. I kind of, you know's it's right there it works

it's right there for you you know uh that's one of those ones where i think the idea came before like the prompt you know like they were like what if it was loki charms and then like reached out general mills reached out to marvel as opposed to like just trying to slam it together for instance ghostbusters afterlife serial that was one where they were just like i don't know just like misshapen marshmallow ghosts right they like no reason to exist there but there is a ghostbusters afterlife serial wasn't there a ghostbusters serial in the 80s i think there was yeah it was yeah there was and i i mean i i remember my mind being like blown because i was like yes move like

that actually now that i think about it that dictated a lot of the cereals i would get when i was a kid if they were collaborating with like a movie that i liked speaking of dictated there was also an et cereal that is just et colored baby dick shapes like it's there's no other thing no other way to describe it it is like the et cereal yeah it looks like or like little poops but et colored so that draws the mind to what part of E.T. is this? This is just E.T. shaded. It's supposed to be his shriveled, shitty finger. Is that right? Peanut butter and chocolate flavored, I guess.

Yeah, maybe that. But then a cutoff finger? I don't know. Just never make your cereal a part of the body of the thing. You know, you go with a theme as opposed to a actual physical. There was also so our writer, J.M., is making the case that this is a return to the 80s when these child entertainment themed breakfast cereals ruled the earth. themed breakfast cereals ruled the earth and there was also a cabbage patch kids uh cereal which i don't know if you guys have the doc in front of you but he included a picture frightening down at the top of and they truly look like they were cursed by the devil himself

like right just like kind of misshapen smiley faces. Oh, that's bad. Yeah. Yeah. That's really bad. The chocolate chips are like weird pock marks and you're like, what? Do I eat this or pray over it? Yeah. If it came to life, it would immediately ask you to kill it.

I feel like it's hard to bring up this pop culture food crossover because cereals were pretty ubiquitous. But then you mentioned Ghostbusters. culture food crossover because cereals were pretty ubiquitous but then you mentioned ghostbusters who thinks about the ghostbusters cereal when you can think about what i have to imagine was the most successful pop culture food merger of all time which is ecto cooler yeah right a drink that people wish still existed beyond its ghostbusters association just because it was great oh yeah i'll be at the gates of coca- demanding Ecto Cooler comeback. It was like a tragedy when you couldn't get it at McDonald's anymore. I was like, what are they doing? This was all I used to drink. I think they brought it back for the last Ghostbusters relaunch very briefly. But I'm shocked. I feel like that one should outlive. That's like, you know, what's the song? You know the band the Archies? Is it Sugar Sugar?

Yeah, Sugar Sugar. The number one song the year that Gimme Shelter came out. And people don't realize that band was created. That was supposed to be Archie and Jughead and Betty and Veronica in a band. That was like a pop culture gimmick song. And we all just forget that because that song's so good. I feel like Ecto Cooler should be on the shelves and then young people should look to our generation

and be like, why is it called Ecto Cooler? Sit down. Sit down. Let us explain to you who Dan Ackroyd was before the skulls full of vodka. Let me tell you about a little man named Rick Moranis who, he quit on us eventually, but he gave us all of

himself it was randomly punched in new york yeah yeah 2022 it was heartbreaking and sad and totally unnecessary yeah i mean it really does feel because it was just tangerine flavor that was it like high c you know and it's like a subtle flavor difference and i think just like that mere mention of it being ecto was enough to to get our to get our little imaginations going but yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know where we are i think we're lost until we can bring ecto cooler back stay so stay puffed is not a real marshmallow brand no i think that's from the Ghostbusters. That's like not a, right? Is that true? I Googled stay puffed marshmallows and they do not. It's only a Ghostbusters shit.

I was in elementary school when Ghostbusters came out. This is the first I'm learning of this. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I've never seen. Now that you mention it, I've never seen a stay puffed marshmallow, but I've never considered this in my life a group yeah see this these are the things god see what happens when we don't question everything we go through life thinking the stay puffed marshmallow man is based off a real brand either way like i'm i'm very curious if it is a real brand i'm very curious

no it says dan akroyd conceived of the stay puffed marshmallow man for his initial script for the ghostbusters movie. He created the character. Yeah. To show that, quote, it seems harmless and puffy and cute, but given the right circumstances, everything can be turned black and become evil. I know that the Marshmallow Man is fictional. I'm curious if he created the brand as well. It looks like it's a fictional food.

Yeah. And now I'm questioning everything this is a lot it's the last episode of the podcast holy shit you guys what where do we go from here wait someone just knocked on my door guys there's a government agent at my door he told me now that i figured this out i have to go with him close wait now there's a guy who looks exactly like chris sitting down in his place like a doppelganger that they created. Where's the Chris? Where's the real Chris going?

Well, what's so wrong with Willy Wonka keeping all his candy? He made the candy. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Willy Wonka should eat some candy too. And what was wrong with Elon Musk hosting SNL? He's naturally very funny.

What the fuck? That Wario sketch was genius. Oh, fuck. I heard so many people be like, actually, pretty good job. He did a really good job. Made me mad. Yeah, when the bar is on the floor. Yeah.

Sure. You got to work to put that bar down there, though, you know? Yeah, because you do. Just got to drop it. Just let gravity do its thing. Chris, it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist man where can people find you and follow you uh chrisgeth.com and chrisgeth on instagram and uh i got the new special half my life and you can go download it everywhere itunes amazon and youtube

and vimeo so check it out i hope you like it thanks for letting me hang out and do bits it was fun doing bits yeah this was really fun is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying well this one was someone promoting something i don't know if that's counts but uh laura stevenson who i think is a fantastic fantastic musician you should know tweeted out an announcement for a new album along with a video to a new song and i've loved la Laura's stuff for years. And this song I listened to, I went, whoa, this is like darker and rockier than I'm used to. And that song is like my song of the week right now. So maybe you'll enjoy it too. Nice.

Go check that out. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, if you like 90 day fiance check out my other one 420 day fiance put it together see how we get down over there on that show a tweet that i like is from at uncle doomer tweeted fellas don't the women have convinced you that cargo shorts are unsexy because they don't want you carrying around useful tools and trinkets. Don't be fooled.

Although as someone who used to have packed to the brim cargo shorts, it's just very hard to carry that many things these days. I appreciate the sentiment. They're trying to take away our power. I used to carry a t-shirt in one of my cargo short pockets.

Just because you sweat through the first one? Yeah, because in Japan, the humidity's fucked up in the summer. You walk outside, I'm like, this is ruined. And I'm like, deploy utility shirt from my cargo, my jargo shorts. Let's see. Some tweets I'm enjoying at John Esnerich

tweeted, I'll say this again, I do not have the personality disorders required for success in America. And Maple Cocaine tweeted, damn'll say this again, I do not have the personality disorders required for success in America. And Maple Cocaine tweeted, damn, a lot of real grotesque pieces of garbage. Hate Ilhan Omar. I wonder what that's all about. Find me on Twitter

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Miles, what song are we recommending people check out? This is a track from Peggy Goo, or Gao. Forgive me if I mispronounced it but she's a south korean dj producer and she has this track called nabi n-a-b-i out and it's just got this like 90s house feel to it that is like so on the nose but also her like kind of spitting in korean over it it just it's like kind of this surreal thing of like man what if we were partying doing warehouse you know parties in seoul in like 91 and that's exactly what the vibe of this track is so this is nabi by peggy goop what was that other korean uh

hip-hop song you played earlier last week that shit was oh you already forgot about hey man that was uh yeah yeah i need to i need to go dig that shit up. Yeah. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.

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