The Daily Zeitgeist - LeBron Sees The Matrix, C’mon New York Times 5.17.18

Episode Date: May 17, 2018

In episode 150, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Anna Salinas to discuss the Yanni/Laurel debate, Lebron James freakishly good memory, Hawaii's Kilauea volcano entering a new phase, Sherrod Brown...'s new tax reform ideas that are actually quite needed, Trump calling Sean Hannity every night to gossip, Pete Davidson's details on what Trump was really like at SNL, the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane investigation, new info on the Royal Wedding, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:51 dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 31, episode three of Daily Zeitgeist. For May 17th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm Jack O'Brien. Opened up my eyes. I'm Jack O'Brien. That is a throwback to Mondays, a.k.a. from John Constantine. I had to go back because I brought up the fact that ace of base used to be a nazi band uh and i forgot to shout out adam todd brown at breezy from cracked
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Starting point is 00:03:09 One thing's for sure. Miles be good. Thank you so much, Anna Claire Hodge, for that, a.k.a. Because I like old Jay-Z songs. And if you've listened to Culture Kings, I peed myself at a Jay-Z show because I did not want to leave the front of the stage. So thank you for connecting that. I'm just feeling good on this throwback Thursday. That's a crazy story, but I've heard it, so I'm just going to move on.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Well, I talk about it pretty much every time a Jay-Z song comes on. Yeah, it's clearly an important moment for you. Seminal or urinal moment. Yeah, a urinal moment for you. It kind of gave you, you were like, I feel like you learned a lot about who you are when you decided to pee instead of go to the back of the crowd. My raison d'etre. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious performer and artist behind Bad Comics. She is Anna Salinas. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:04 What's up? I'm so excited. I gotta be honest, ever since Edgar was on and talked some mad shit about me I've just been burning up with anticipation. Now for first time listeners, who is Edgar? Edgar Monplaisir
Starting point is 00:04:20 is a comedian. He's also my boyfriend and we have kind of an ongoing Twitter feud right now, which usually involves me dragging him or revealing personal details about his life, which I intend to do today. Oh, wow. So stick around for that secret at the end of the show, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Unless you want to drop a bomb right now. Oh, no. I'm going to hold on to it. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah, yeah. No, let him know. Let him know.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Anna, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, actually, good. No, let him know. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, actually, yeah. So I recently Googled, is it okay to put garlic up your butt? Uh-huh. Because Edgar revealed to me that the first time we hooked up, he, man, this is, I forgot the details are so personal. No, you didn't. I mean, I had, I like, I hadn't recounted it in my head yet.
Starting point is 00:05:10 He had a hemorrhoid and he was Googling like homeopathic remedies and one of them is to put garlic up. So he did that and I didn't know that. And I guess he didn't want to hook up the next time we hung out or something. This is months ago. And I didn't understand why at the time. I thought he was being so weird, and now I know it's because he literally had lodged a clove of garlic up his rectum. As you guys were hanging out for the second time,
Starting point is 00:05:41 he had a clove of garlic up his ass. That's crazy. That's love. But also, what would he have done if we did and and it smelled like garlic because that's apparently part of it but i googled it and it's actually not a remedy no it's very very dangerous specific sexual fetish well okay there are articles on the internet that are like yeah yeah it helps it helps with yeast infections infections as well for women, but allegedly. But the medical consensus on the internet is don't do it. You could get a very bad infection.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. Oh, right, because you're like some weird agricultural product. You're putting a foreign object in your butt that is also an organic object. By the way, one of the most common things that emergency medicine sees is just foreign objects in people's butts. Always. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, yeah. That's so funny. Yeah, as the spouse of a doctor. Wasn't Sharla Lauriston talking about how the Haitian remedy to everything was garlic? Oh, yeah, yeah. That makes a little more sense. Yeah, because she was like,
Starting point is 00:06:42 oh, I had a stye in my eye. I was rubbing garlic on it. What? She was rubbing garlic on it. What? Do you rub garlic on her eye? Or like on her eyelid. And like apparently that works. That's so funny, man. I wonder if he called his mother.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We are learning so much about Haitians now. Yeah, and his parents both work in medicine. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Nah, his mom would be probably tripping if she found out he was throwing up a little clove in there. That's crazy. She would have thought it was sexual
Starting point is 00:07:03 and been like very outraged. What are you doing? What is something you think is overrated besides putting garlic up your butt? Yeah, I think the New York Times is a little overrated right now. We're gonna get to that. Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of friends
Starting point is 00:07:20 who have been telling me for a while, like, you know the columns on the New York Times can be pretty whack. Yeah. Which is true, and I've always sort of defended The New York Times. Right. So I'm like, no. And instead you're like,
Starting point is 00:07:31 check out the Daily Caller. Yeah, there's hard-hitting journalism. Check out the Daily Caller. That's good journalism. Stormfront's pretty tight, right? Yeah. But I recently realized that I have to come to terms with the fact that maybe The New York Times
Starting point is 00:07:43 isn't all that great. Because they've been trying to do these really millennial stories, but they're really bombing, and I screenshotted a few of them because they're ridiculous and I don't want to read them. This is from their op-ed columns, you're saying? This is from their living section, their lifestyle section. Living section.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Okay, here's one. Why work when you can procrastibake? Uh-huh, yeah, yeah. Why work when you can procrastinate? Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Procrastinating through baking? The practice of baking something unnecessary. So that's like they're doing this thing that you see on the internet where you just rewrite the titles for your articles in like a fun,
Starting point is 00:08:19 like sassy gal kind of way. Like your sassy friend. It's like, why work when you can procrastinate yeah and it's stupid fucking new york times that's an editor's self-respect yeah that's an editor's big story that's like year one buzzfeed type shit exactly so everybody just remade their headline writing with buzzfeed staff i think right yeah we we don't need you for that. We need you for the real foreign wars journalism. Okay, here's another one. Why am I crying all the time?
Starting point is 00:08:51 I don't know. Why are you crying all the time? Oh, is that a thing? That's the headline. Okay, I thought that was just something you said. No, I mean, I did relate to it on some level. And what was the story about? Was it a story? Is it a scientific explanation about emotions? It's about how the internet is evoking crying a lot through Kickstarter videos and viral
Starting point is 00:09:11 homecoming videos with the veteran homecoming stuff. Okay. Okay. And then the last one I'll say. Camembert without raw milk? Some cry treason. That's a stupid story. Oh, wow. That's such stupid story. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That's such a specific thing to be outraged about. Cheese? That's bougie. That's also- Wait, I didn't even know that was like you had to use raw milk to make camembert cheese. I don't know. I mean, I love cheese. If anyone was going to read that story, it was me.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And did I stop and look because cheese was in the title? Yeah, but grow up, New York Times. Right. I'm over it. Yeah, but grow up, New York Times. Right. I'm over it. Yeah, I can see the cheese thing. That feels like I could have seen that maybe in the 2000s in the lifestyle section. I don't want to bombard your podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But the why am I crying all the time is so millennial. Well, it's probably like, yeah, someone just found out. They're like, wait, there's even subreddits devoted to videos that will make you cry? Like, hmm, interesting. So we can frame this as, why are we crying all the time? Folks, this thing called the internet has found ways to package these emotional moments into video. It's like, okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's stupid. Yeah, I love it. What is something that's underrated? I think that this is sort of abstract. I think the idea of female genius is underrated. Ooh, I like that this is sort of abstract. I think the idea of female genius is underrated. Ooh, I like that. Yeah. I think especially with This is America,
Starting point is 00:10:34 we, even as liberals, even as young people, have still this subconscious bias that only men can truly be geniuses. And I think it plays out a little bit. Go with me on this. Right now in hip hop, we have like the, the pinnacle of contemporary rap genius in Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Lil Pump. Lil Pump. Lil Tay. G-Eazy. No, Lil Tay. But like Kendrick Lamar and like still Jay-Eazy, no, Lil Tay, but Kendrick Lamar and still Jay-Z and Childish Gambino. And I feel like on the other side of successful breakthrough female rappers, we don't have much.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I mean, Cardi B, obviously, I feel like is the biggest contender. And I don't think that people take her as seriously as Kendrick Lamar or whatever. That's such a good point. That's for maybe good reason. I mean, she's not super overtly political. She's not making really clear political statements in her rap. But I think that filtering process of who we let break through is also something that plays into that.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I think her genius is the fact that she is so consistently putting out hit records. So I think on one level people will try and put it through a filter of like, well what is the context? What is the content of the words? Or whatever. Is this person breaking down societal inequality and shit like that?
Starting point is 00:11:59 And Cardi B is also her genius is in that she is sincerely herself and that is already resonating with people for the fact that they're like, this is genuine. It's sincere. And it's a fucking, they're turn up songs. So you have to count that into like, yeah, that is part of her success. And that is her genius, I think, is to be so true to what it is that makes her herself. And not just being, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah. true to what it is that makes her herself and not a, I don't know. Yeah. It's like we as a culture have allowed that, okay, someone who used to be a 13-year-old drug dealer can be a genius. We accepted that. Like, great. That's true. That's very fair.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Like, yes, Jay-Z, like, this is valid. You're still a genius. But I don't think we as a culture have accepted that someone who used to be a stripper can be truly a genius. I agree. Totally. Yeah. But I don't think we as a culture have accepted that someone who used to be a stripper can be truly a genius. I agree. Totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 First of all, on the subject of the content of the lyrics, I mean, people were saying that Migos were geniuses three years ago. Tea! I think Cardi B, for instance, she dropped her first album. And I remember this New Yorker article that was hailing it as a great album talked about how hard she had to work to understand hip-hop's conventions and how to write the lyrics. That she had really studied hip-hop. No, she really did, yeah. Because it was a thing she had done casually. And someone was like, you could be a rapper. And because she's actually a very hardworking person, right like let me really understand the form but it's it puts a emphasis
Starting point is 00:13:29 on like it being an effortful thing as opposed to her just being like going from stripper to just being like one of the best rappers like she never has a misplaced word like she is really one of the great like she writes great raps and people like i feel like you're right that if that was a man people would just be like look how quick he picked this up as opposed to you know like look how hard he worked to like try and understand this i mean with cardi it's i think it's because it's so different is that everybody in the if we're specifically looking in the context of hip-hop it's about your lyricism and shit like that. And that's what this sort of rubric that they're using to determine whether or not someone has this genius.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Although with like Lil Wayne, so much of that I think was about his wordplay and his flow. No, right. But I mean like lyrically, like what is being said, like that's what they parse through. They're like, oh, you got that late text, but then he's talking about latex condoms like whoa what the fuck yeah and so and cardi's her wordplay isn't that crazy or next level but i think what it is is it's like energetic it's the energy there's something that even goes beyond what's the lyrically there because i mean to be perfectly honest none of the shit that she's writing is like whoa lyrically it's on another level right because the strength isn't about the lyricism with her she just she can create an energy a theme and
Starting point is 00:14:49 aesthetic around a track that connects with somebody and now everybody's like oh they got the bloody shoes or they got the money bag or whatever right that's what that's where the genius is because now you can't get that shit out of your head no one you know not many people go back and they're like yo remember deep cover 98 dead in the middle of little, little, little. Did we know that we riddled some middle man who did it? That's like shit for heads, real hip-hop heads. And meanwhile, look at Cardi's fucking numbers. She's putting up fucking numbers crazier than most artists, male or female, in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I think that's really where you can see it, too. You don't have to parse through the lyrics. This is clearly connecting with people. People like it. But I do feel like, yeah, I just feel like you're right that it's a word we just don't apply to women as easily as we will apply it to men. And yeah, whether her genius is like reading the zeitgeist
Starting point is 00:15:38 or actually her rhyme writing, it just feels like a thing that you have to go above and beyond to have that word applied to you. Yeah. That's a great underrated. What is something that's a myth? I think that it is, okay, this is something that came up in conversation recently.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Literally last night I was talking to some male friends. And the question was, do women actually like giving blowjobs? Do women actually like it when you come on their face? Like, I always feel so bad. A guy was saying this. Yeah. And I just feel. You feel so bad while you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. you're doing it yeah it's this weird way we talk about sex that like erases consent culture where like sometimes how do i say this within a consenting adult sexual relationship uh like a bit of degradation like is okay and can be something someone wants. And it's sort of like this weird patriarchal, man, I've been so feminist this morning. I know. We're all impressed, just so you know. Yeah, like women are doing men a favor when they do those kinds of sexual acts.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, it definitely puts it from the male perspective. Right. If you're like, this is probably not her favorite thing or something as opposed to. Yeah, this is a thing that's happening. Yeah. In the moment. And it's also like a I don't know. Yeah. Like you can you say broadly like how women feel about a given sex act? Absolutely not. And I'm in this. Oh, man, I can't really say much about this because we're like sworn to secrecy. But I'm in this sex positive women's and non-binary Facebook group right now. That's maybe like a thousand people plus.. We're just looking for the term is unicorn. And a post like that will get hundreds of comments
Starting point is 00:17:49 with people being like, yeah, I'm interested too. Oh, I'm interested too. Lots of threads about anal sex. And seeing that, I realized, oh, wow, there is such an extreme degree to which we don't normalize kink. Oh, yeah, a lot of kink shaming yeah yeah that and i just seeing like how every guy was like yeah girls don't like it when you come on their face man right saying that out loud because i surely wouldn't want to be cummed on
Starting point is 00:18:17 my face yeah yeah exactly i'm just not in the facial thing because it just feels I don't know. The idea of masturbating at the end of sex to achieve an orgasm when you're having sex with a human consenting partner feels like a wasted opportunity. I see you that and I raise you this. If the focus of your
Starting point is 00:18:39 sexual encounter is female pleasure and the woman has finished and you've brought her to climax maybe a few times uh it might be a nice finish uh for the man to masturbate and for the woman to be like done oh i've never i've never satisfied a woman wait you said multiple orgasms yeah i think that should be that's should be at least a running goal. Miles, don't worry. It's not possible.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, actually, the myth I have is that women can orgasm. It's not true. They can't. Wait, what? I know. Knew it. Knew it. I have a couple phone calls I need to make.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Exactly. All right, guys. Let's get into what calls I need to make. Exactly. All right, guys. Let's get into what people are thinking and talking about today. And carrying over from yesterday, the zeitgeist is still being dominated by the great debate of our time, Laurel V. Yanni. The new Roe versus Wade. Right. so we played the clip for you guys yesterday
Starting point is 00:19:48 the New York Times actually created a great tool for listening to this and hearing it from both perspectives like the New York Times does enabling a good conversation from both sides they always want both sides heard
Starting point is 00:20:03 as we'll talk about later uh but so we're gonna play it for you kind of the it's basically a continuum uh on like the pitch continuum because basically the lower you pitch it the easier it is to hear laurel the higher you pitch it the easier it is to hear yanni uh i will say that uh I feel vindicated because when you listen to it from like going in one direction you like what when you start at the Yanni the high pitch extreme and go in the other direction I hear Yanni basically the whole way until I get to the very end and then on the Laurel side if I start at Laurel and go in the other direction I I hear Laurel almost the whole way. So it really is like basically where you're coming from, like what your memory is bringing
Starting point is 00:20:49 to each individual hearing experience. But on yesterday's episode, basically everybody in the room was like, yeah, it's Laurel. It's obviously Laurel. People are crazy. And now I've encountered lots of people, Anna, you are one of them, who only hears Yanny.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Is it Yanny or Yanny? It is Yanny. You're hearing Yanny like Danny. A high-pitched Yanny. Yeah. And I've heard from a lot of people who think that the Laurel folks are fucking with them. I can assure you that's not the case. But first, let's hear this example that the New York Times created.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yanny. Yanny. So this is in the middle. Y hear again laurel laurel still here laurel laurel and then it just goes all the way here now so this is Yui. Yui. Yui. I hear you. Yui. Whoa. No. There, it just switched back over to me. To Laurel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes from Yui to Laurel. It switched like four ago for me. Laurel. Okay. I wonder if it really is a frequency kind of thing, huh? Because there's so much information stored in those higher frequencies that I think that Nick, Stumpf, Super Producer and I played in bands And I feel like you lose a lot of that
Starting point is 00:22:06 That higher end too From playing That like I can't hear a lot of higher frequency stuff And I wonder if that kind of puts me at a disadvantage Because I'm not A lot of those frequencies aren't in my hearing Like in my sonic range Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:18 I heard Yanny in the beginning You heard Yanny all the way from the beginning I heard Yanny all the way from the beginning. I heard Yanny all the way until all of a sudden when you, I think we both have nodded to each other and it went Laurel. And went gerbils. And then I heard Yally as it was scaling up.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Right, yeah. I heard Hardy, to quote a joke from producer Anna Hosnia, Laurel and Hardy. Bang. Thanks for explaining that one. Count it, swish. But yeah, I do think it has to do with, we think that we're hearing with our sensory organs
Starting point is 00:22:55 and seeing with our sensory organs, and it's actually a huge interaction between our memory and our brain and how it's storing information and what our expectations and how it's storing information and what our expectations are going into it uh that like kind of completely determines how we hear and i believe that like i have one of those names um like your lovely producer my name is anna and i whenever people say mom i I hear my name. Right. And mama, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So I wonder, I feel like a lot of people hear their name with certain words or people that have those like vowel-heavy names. So whenever you hear mama, you hear your name? Yeah. Oh, hardcore. Hardcore. Yeah. I used to teach kindergarten and they would say mama a lot, and I would hear my name. They would just say that like-
Starting point is 00:23:49 Are you just trying to get your kids back? As their moms were dropping them off or something? Yeah, yeah, or when they were like crying. Or were you just like so mean to them that they're like, Mama! Oh my God! My name is Anna! Yeah, yeah, I was so mean to them, but I reduced them to tears.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And honestly, it was fun. You're like, look at this macaroni necklace bullshit. It was like Giovanni Ribisi's character in Saving Private Ryan when he's dying and he's like, Mama! Very hard scene to watch. I showed it to them every day.
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Starting point is 00:28:33 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And you guys missed an amazing display of just accent perfection. Flexibility. From super producer Ana Hosniye, just crushing it as always. Like I've said, she and Leonardo DiCaprio have the two best South African accents I've ever heard imitated. It's just that she is trying to do an Australian accent when she does her South African accent.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And it's impeccable South African. Impeccable South African. All right. So while we're talking about how the brain works, I wanted to give a quick shout out to a guy named LeBron James, I think is how it's pronounced. So he, after just getting his ass dragged by the celtics in game one had a press conference where uh somebody asked him what happened at the beginning of the fourth
Starting point is 00:29:32 quarter because there was a big shift in momentum and here we're gonna listen to his response we ran him the first possession we ran him down all the way to 200 shot clock marcus morris missed a jump shot followed it up he got. They got a dunk. We came back down. We ran a set for Jordan Clarkson, and he came off and missed it. They rebounded it. And we came back on the defensive end, and we got a stop. They took it out on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Jason Tatum took the ball out, threw it to Marcus Smart in the short corner. He made a three. We come back down, missed another shot. And then Tatum came down and went 94 feet, did a little step, and made a right-hand layup timeout. Wow, that was the most boring but accurate retelling of a basketball game I've ever heard. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But I think it's – so just to put that in perspective, there are probably, I think, 140 something possessions in any NBA basketball game. They just asked him to talk about the ones that happened at the beginning of the fourth quarter. And he remembered them in detail. And he remembered them in detail. And that just reminded me of, it's basically my favorite experiment that's been done with memory where they showed chess grandmasters, chess boards with like various formations of the pieces. And they basically had photographic memories. Like they could just look at it and then, you know, close their eyes and they could tell you exactly where everything was on the board, no matter what, until they tried it again where they put the pieces in positions that they couldn't actually be in in a chess game.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Oh, got you. In a chess game, as it's called, and they couldn't remember it. Right, because it's so chaotic, they couldn't actually relate that to- Right. It's like, so I don't know. It's just interesting it's like speaks to how we remember things and like how uh you know procedural the our memory is like it has to be part of a story that we're telling ourselves and it has to like make sense in the flow of events and it's also the roteness of basketball for LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Like if you, oh, I wonder, maybe this isn't true. If I do an improv scene, I can tell you every beat of that improv scene. Exactly. Because I've done a billion of them to my great,
Starting point is 00:31:59 not fortunate. It's unfortunate that I've done them. I think it is. You're pretty smart and witty, right? That didn't add anything? That was other uh overrated i was gonna say improv comedy i was like no i'll make too many enemies right uh but maybe yeah so i don't know like just for him it's all stored there because what he's actually doing is so practiced. Yeah. No, I think it's probably more meaningful to him than to other people. And also in the same way that an improv scene, if somebody who doesn't give a shit about improv goes to an improv show and they're just like there to laugh, they're going to remember like two moments.
Starting point is 00:32:42 But you remember every beat because you're in it and it's very meaningful. very meaningful it's all about how much of the matrix you can see in a given situation right you know what i mean like in improv of course you're gonna see the matrix because you have to to know oh okay well this is the choice this person made how can i build on that or not you'll also remember when someone makes a shitty choice you're like bro you had a fucking opportunity to take this scene somewhere and you just fucked it up and same with especially with basketball like you know that's you have And same with, especially with basketball, like, you know, that's,
Starting point is 00:33:07 you have to see the matrix, especially for LeBron James, who probably at this point has 700,000 hours in basketball is fully seeing the matrix. Exactly. I'm trying to think of what's something that I could do. I don't know. Maybe a game of FIFA 18. I could probably,
Starting point is 00:33:21 I could probably remember. Oh, you know what? Missed past that. I was going to suggest your podcast. No, man, we do this so much. We oftentimes are like, what? Did we talk about, did I say that?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Although when I've heard, listened to episodes back, I kind of, I'm back in there and I'm feeling like, oh, I might say something here. Jackson, say this. It just all runs together a little bit. So I don't know if we're the best example. We have mush brains. But I definitely remember jokes that I've heard that are like good jokes and i definitely i remember like movie plots
Starting point is 00:33:51 like in detail and movie lines in detail and where i saw every movie that i've seen like that's for me like point yeah uselessly it's just like watching movies i remember everything about you're the lebron james of watching movies i I remember everything about them. You're the LeBron James of watching movies. I remember most of my friends old hard-lined telephone numbers. Back when I was a youngster, we didn't have cell phones. So I had to dial people's phone numbers.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I have all those phone numbers. That's impressive. That shit was important. We didn't have social media. Mine are gone. The only phone number I know is my home phone number, which has since been disconnected. Right. Sometimes it was crazy. Even as I became more reliant on the cell phone, even with people I would date who you typically are calling all the time, I realized I didn't even know their numbers.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah, which is crazy. Because you just store it and you just tap a button around them. I'm like, oh, I can see the number. Is that your number? I know area codes. I'm like, oh, is that, I can see the number. Like, is that your number? I know area codes.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But like people who are memory, like champions who like, they actually have competitions where they'll like put 30 decks of cards and then just like flip them over and you have to memorize exactly what order they were in. Right. Those people like say that the way that they do that is by telling themselves a story. And so it kind of ties to that. Like you are basically putting it in the flow of the memory. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Because I remember when I was talking with a guy who counts cards, that's exactly the thing. It's like, Oh, I picture a house and the front room will have these objects that can't like in each card is an object, an item in the room. So if I come in the living room,
Starting point is 00:35:24 there might not be the couch in this room. It might be in the other bedroom. It's red. I had to do more of that because my memory is bad, and I read that you're more likely to get Alzheimer's if you're not working your memory constantly. Yeah. Mental elasticity is important.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah. All right. Let's talk about some events that are happening currently in the news. Hawaii is going off right now. We don't have a whole lot to say other than that the- It's a full-on eruption. Cool-looking lava flow that we were talking about last week has turned into ash shooting into the sky. 30,000 feet high is how high the ash column is going, which is really high.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Mount St. Helens went 80,000 feet. That's the largest volcanic eruption in the history of the United States. But that altered the temperature. And the one in Iceland in 2010, they think, altered the temperature by a couple degrees for the next couple of years because it shot so much matter into the atmosphere that there was just more years yeah yeah for there's just more cloud cover so we don't know how this necessarily compares to those but yeah winter is coming prepare last time i checked well on the news this morning they were saying how they were calling like a catastrophic steam event basically where the lava lake inside the volcano is is sinking and eventually will reach this like level of water
Starting point is 00:36:50 groundwater basically and then that interaction the temperatures will just you know collide create a bunch of steam and shoot up so many they're saying all kinds of rubble and like boulders they're saying some like up to the size of refrigerators or small cars at 120 miles an hour, which is a lot. But luckily that most of the area around Kilauea is not really like a place where people live. It's not inhabitable. So there isn't too great a risk of any kind of injury. But still, man. Science is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Earth is tripping. Yeah. I don't know why. But that is all just a natural occurrence. There's no... Man, I feel dumb asking this question. No one triggered the earthquake? Yeah. No, it wasn't Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:37:33 where they've just been fracking and causing all these earthquakes. I think this volcano has been going off for years now. Hawaii has been an active volcano, I think for like its entire existence. It's just like moving eastward essentially. But yeah, that brings up just another interesting thing
Starting point is 00:37:54 I recently learned is that Earth has an underground ocean that is three times the amount of water that is on the surface of the planet. Are you following that UberFacts Twitter account or something? No. Wait, what is that? There's a fucking ocean part two?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, there's a ton of water down by the core. What? How is it? I don't remember that. In the movie, The Core, I don't think they ever hit that part. Yeah, no, they must have missed it. When DJ Qualls was drinking all that Mountain Dew. But wait, how is it still water?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Wouldn't it be not in liquid water form if it's that hot? Look, I'm not on trial here. Yeah. Look, we're not scientists, man. We're second-rate podcasters. Honestly, most of what I know about the Earth's core is from that movie. The movie The Core. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Delroy Lindo's feet melt off when he's trying to, I think it's Delroy Lindo, right?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. You guys think I'm reading a news article. I'm just watching The Core. The Core. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Delroy Lindo's feet melt off when he's trying to, I think it's Delroy Lindo, right? Yeah. You guys think I'm reading a news article. I'm just watching The Core. The trailer. You're like, damn, it's fucking up everything. Yeah. Damn, they got to set off a nuclear warhead in The Core to start it back up? Sounds right.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, it makes sense to me. Checks out. Yeah. All right, let's talk a little politics, Miles. What's going on? A little bit. A wee bit. Maybe a lot of bit.
Starting point is 00:39:03 But we have so much shit we talk about and kick the outrage machine into high gear on a daily basis that it's important to also talk about things that are being done that are trying to achieve some kind of level of equality in this country. Specifically, Sherrod Brown was at this CAP Ideas Conference, which is the Center for American Progress. They have this annual conference. And when he spoke, he spoke on a panel. And afterwards on Twitter, he kind of let people know some tax policies that he felt like we should probably consider when we overhaul
Starting point is 00:39:35 our tax system, unlike the massive corporate giveaway we had back in December, something that will actually help American working people. And a lot of the ideas are, I mean, just tell me if this sounds reasonable to you. Okay. Well, the first one is the Patriot Employers Tax Credit. Now that is a credit that rewards employers who commit to keeping jobs in the United States, pay workers well, and encourage them to create more good paying jobs. And when we say they pay them well, we mean like a living wage, actual benefits like health care, retirement, things like that. And those are the countries that deserve a tax credit that literally actually keep their jobs in the United States as opposed to like a headquarter here and then you can hide your money elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I mean, that seems fine. Anything with the word patriot in it, I think is good for the American people. I mean, that's that's Sherrod Brown's genius, baby. Then the other one, which he also good buzzwords here, the corporate freeloader fee. Now, a lot of companies like McDonald's, Walmart, they be paying people so little money that they actually themselves have to apply for benefits, for welfare benefits, because they're not actually paid enough by the employer and they don't offer benefits. So what this does is requires companies that pay their workers so little that they actually have to they have to pay like they have to reimburse the taxpayer for underpaying these people. So it's just kind of like, OK, you want to underpay these people? Well, this is the tax you have to pay because that'll help offset the fact that these people have to actually be on benefits. I mean, I don't see why fucking McDonald's or Walmart needs more of a handout.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah, that sounds good. Seems fine. OK. And again, these are just his ideas. I mean, hopefully he will introduce these pieces of legislation, which will probably not get fully voted on. That one's actually well-named. Not that I'm only listening to the title and completely tuning everything else out.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You're like, yeah, the Freddie Freeloader fee? Yeah. The corporate freeloader fee I like because calling corporations freeloaders is very, I don't know, it's like something that I can get behind and that sticks in your memory. Because they're fucking vampires or something in the country. And finally, he has the Working Families Tax Relief Act, and I'm going to quote him here, which would expand access for working people to the earned income tax credit and child tax credit. expand access for working people to the earned income tax credit and child tax credit. And now that's because a lot of people get an increase in pay and they might be pushed into a higher tax bracket. And then they're like suddenly like, well, that effectively limits the amount of
Starting point is 00:41:54 money I have to support my family and things like that. So this is just about creating eligibility for those benefits. These all sound great. And these ideas and these kinds of legislation is really necessary when you take into account the midterms and the kind of messaging that works and also what the current state is of people's financial situations in this country. So the United Way just released a study that shows that more than 40% of the households in the United States cannot pay the basics of a middle-class lifestyle, which they define as being able to pay your rent, transportation, child care, and a cell phone. That's like the minimum. Now, they're just showing that, you know, clearly that there's this group of families that they call Alice families,
Starting point is 00:42:35 which are basically in between poverty and the middle class. And Alice stands for asset limited, income constrained, employed. And those are households who are working, but they earn just very little. Like those are many people that we see who have hourly income, who are just kind of, there isn't much social upward mobility when you are in a situation like this. And these are the kinds of things that really need to be addressed. These are the kinds of things that affect all people, no matter what party you're in. That's just a quality of life thing. Yeah. We talked on a past episode about how america when you compare it to other western countries we tend to think of ourselves as the land of opportunity but we actually have far less social
Starting point is 00:43:14 mobility than countries like canada has twice as much social mobility than the average american so you know a lot of these institutions have come in and made it harder for people to get out of, you know, whatever class strata they're at. Right. And we tend to think of ourselves as like a classless society. That's crazy. That is incorrect. Yeah. I mean, I'm half Swedish and my family in Sweden is truly living in a classless society.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Not Sweden proper, but they're in this island called Åland. Technically belongs to Finland. But there, I mean, you truly see what it means to have a generally equal class. There aren't really many wealthy people. There's one rich guy. He has three cars and everyone knows him when he drives around. Peter the rich guy. Peter the rich guy.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I don't remember his name. It's like Jan or something. But he gets targeted by the traffic cops because it's scaled there. So if you get a ticket, it's based on your income. Right, right. So when he pays a ticket, it can be like $7,000. There you go. That's justice.
Starting point is 00:44:21 That's where we should be today. Things need to be scalable and relative to your income because with one kind of legal problem, someone can completely wipe out their finances or even sadly here medical thing can happen and you're completely bankrupted. It also makes total sense to me that you would just scale laws that have financial consequences to how much because otherwise it's not going to hurt them. Exactly. They can just speed wherever the fuck they want. As you can see in Beverly Hills. That's always the land of no traffic laws.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I drive through Beverly Hills every day to get here. Boy, when I used to work around there I would pray I would get hit by a car on a crosswalk because the way people just make right turns into a crosswalk was next level. They don't care. Can't be touched. All the liberal stereotypes that you hear about people in California are wrong, except
Starting point is 00:45:10 Beverly Hills is just full of the worst people in the world. Truly the worst. Now, the other thing I want to bring up, since we're on the idea of income inequality and we've been talking about the poor people, poor people's movement and things like that of really trying to really get people to understand sort of what's at stake for us as American people who are just trying to work to try and achieve some kind of dignified life. Keith Ellison from Minnesota, he released a study also that found that CEOs in the United States on average are paid 339 times more than their workers. times more than their workers. So for example, at 188 out of the 225 companies that they analyzed, a single CEO's salary could be used to pay more than 100 workers. And they also found that at 219 of the 225 companies, an average employee would need to work for more than 45 years to
Starting point is 00:46:01 make what their CEO makes in one year. So this is what is at stake. This is the situation that we are really ignoring in exchange for immigrant boogie people and things like that. These are the kinds of issues that I feel like when everyone's talking about, how do we get some of these independents to get on board? Talk this shit. Talk about income inequality. This really affects you no matter what.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And it's really something that needs to be addressed. And this is the stuff that has changed. Like in 1950, CEO to worker ratio was 20 to 1. 1980, 42 to 1. 2000, 120 to 1. And now, yeah, it's insane. It's like 300 something to 1. I don't understand why we haven't done a better job
Starting point is 00:46:42 of making our corporate overlords the enemy. Well, because they sponsor Congress. Yeah. But even just as citizens and as journalists in the media. Because we have a corporate-sponsored journalism. That's why we need the hard-hitting journalism. That's why y'all come to the Daily Psych guys and talk that shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:01 But really, though. But guys, really, when you're listening, these are the kinds of things that if you get stuck in partisan debates about dumb shit shift the focus to this kind of thing because everybody knows somebody who's whether you are listening yourself and you are struggling to make ends meet or you have yourself been there and been fortunate enough to to get out of a situation like that these are real issues these are the things that you know think about how unhappy you are when you don't have shit and you feel like you were completely disregarded yeah we these are the kinds of things that we just gotta address right come on yeah i don't understand how there's not more support for socialized health care like doesn't everyone
Starting point is 00:47:37 have cancer well that's why you know we're seeing now more and more people who are even left of center or center left for democrats there's a lot of enthusiasm for candidates more people who are even left of center or center left for Democrats. There is a lot of enthusiasm for candidates like this who are being like, we need Medicare for all. Yeah. And that's funny because before when you just hated Obama and you needed something to lightning rod of Obamacare to hate him over. Think about how many people now who have benefited from that. Like, whoa, don't take my fucking Obamacare. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I'm on Obamacare. Yeah, because now you realize, wait, this is a better system. I don't want to feel like, I'm sure for you in Sweden, I have family in Japan, when the whole Obamacare discussion was going on, telling somebody that someone could go bankrupt from a medical bill was like a total head scratcher. Oh, yeah. They're like, what do you mean? You don't. They're like, someone needed treatment for their cancer or they had a pre-existing condition
Starting point is 00:48:20 that kept them from getting the full benefits or whatever. And they slowly lose their money They have to drain their finances Sell their homes etc And everyone's like What that doesn't make sense And what's crazy is like You can still have
Starting point is 00:48:30 A private sector in medicine Right You just also have A public option Right You just do this So look Brad Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:37 At the bare minimum You can get your leg looked at Yeah You know what I mean You can get this looked at If you want to turn up a little bit And go to some A really fancy expert
Starting point is 00:48:43 Then there's a market for that too yeah but again but the insurance companies make are are incredibly wealthy and incredibly influential and you know they're going to fight this every step of the way and uh the only way that obama care got done was by letting people who were former insurance industry health insurance industry people, like basically write the laws. Right. So it's still a fucking mess here in these United States. All right, we're going to take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:53:38 One of them. Impossible to do a tight five. Right. He can't even do a tight five. Trump calls Hannity at the end of the day. That's something we have failed to mention up to this point. But that broke in the past week. That's who he unwinds with at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Instead of his Reagan head Nancy, George H.W. Bush head Barbara. Barbara. And Donald has Sean. I really like framing it like that. Yeah. He's lonely. Like a wife, like a functioning marriage. He has no functioning personal relationships,
Starting point is 00:54:10 so he calls the next best thing a Fox News commentator. Who knows what he's telling this man? Right. And like what kind of sensitive shit he's even telling him or just generally, it just really, it half makes me laugh because I'm like, you're not going to believe it, Sean. Peter Navarro and Larry Kudlow were fighting about tariffs with China.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I don't even know. Tell me about it, babe. Yeah. So what's going on? Wait, which one is Peter? You know they call each other babe. I told you first. Gary Cohn didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Or do you even listen to me, Sean? But he must be turning down scoops like hand over fist. Just like he gets, like Trump does not filter for anyone. Right, right. He's definitely, like that's the reason he hasn't had a press conference in 400 days.
Starting point is 00:54:49 He can't be controlled. He calls a guy who's supposed to be a journalist every night to just unwind. Right. And that dude must just be like, yeah, I mean, that would make,
Starting point is 00:54:59 that would probably win me like a Pulitzer. Right. But like he's turning it down because he's not a journalist. He's just one of the homies. Yeah, just huddle up and be like,
Starting point is 00:55:07 well, how do you want me to spin that? Okay, okay, okay, got it. Yeah, he knows his brand is safe. I would love though if Trump's also just like really confiding
Starting point is 00:55:14 him, telling him lies like, honestly, we haven't even been talking to North Korea. I've just been saying that. Oh God. It's really going to come down soon.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Oh boy. I can't imagine him venting an insecurity. I don't have to because I love seeing – I know there's insecurity, but I think he – It's just so internalized and just turns into – He takes it out by doing – and I don't want to kink shame, but I shudder to think what his kinks are. I think it's just pee-pee and spanking. Peeping people with magazines that he's on the cover of.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, that's what we know. Or that his daughter is on the cover with. So just speaking of his insecurity real quick, Miles, you were playing a clip earlier. This is not on the doc, but you were playing a clip earlier of Pete Davidson from SNL talking about the time that Trump came and hosted. And it's just, you guys got to watch it
Starting point is 00:56:04 because you might've seen the part where he talks about how Trump can't read yeah his theory that Trump is illiterate well he saw him like sounding words out and not being able to like read the script but we know he can read because he does jazz and he doesn't do jazz you can't read a teleprompter on what the fucking pictures show up and he's put
Starting point is 00:56:20 his word association is that strong where he's like blah blah like just photos he can read he just doesn't read books ever. But there's also a story about how he- Wait, hold on. I like that we just had to do- He can read. Yeah, we have to read that out.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I actually had to defend the fact that I think he's literate. I think he probably suffers from undiagnosed dyslexia, and he's just always been too proud to admit that. He has a lot of the hallmarks of somebody who had to struggle with a learning disability and figure out ways around the standard. That's in my upcoming book, Trump's, I don't know. My upcoming book, I Can't Read Good. Watch the Pete Davidson clip because he's on Peter Rosenberg's show from Hot 97. But he's talking about when he was on SNL and he describes this thing where basically
Starting point is 00:57:10 he claims that Donald Trump took a fake phone call to announce to the room that his book went number one. Yeah. Oh my God. You'll watch it. He's just kind of like, yeah, and it went down. He just went like this. Didn't even ring.
Starting point is 00:57:23 He just goes, hello? Oh my God, that's great. Okay, fantastic. my book's number one guys i just hung up and i was like bro there's not even time for you to fucking have an exchange of words right right anyway we'll link to that um so the fbi uh has revealed some of the details from Operation Crossfire Hurricane, which is what they called the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible collusion with the Trump campaign. Crossfire Hurricane is from a Rolling Stones lyric. Jumping Jack Flash.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Just such a desperately whack baby boomer bullshit name. Like, hey, Rolling Stones, get it? Go fuck yourselves, the FBI. But you read it the way it's meant to be read. Right. Crossfire hurricane. Yeah. All right, Mick.
Starting point is 00:58:18 So, I don't know. After reading the New York Times account, the impression I got was that the FBI was exceedingly fair to the Trump campaign, like to a fault and unfair to the Clinton campaign, based basically entirely on Comey's belief that Clinton would win and Trump would lose. where he talked about how maybe his decision-making was influenced by his belief that Clinton was going to win and he didn't want her presidency overshadowed by the belief that the FBI was out here doing her favors. By being honest? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 It's the whole, like, the same, we've talked about how the liberal media has been going out of their way to cover the conservative point of view. It's that on steroids. They completely gave away the power to conservatives by basically triangulating with a point of view that just wasn't really very reasonable out of a desire to appear even handed. The thing also in the article is like they kind of reference the fact that back in the build up to election day remember they
Starting point is 00:59:28 put out an article where the headline was investigating Donald Trump FBI sees no clear link to Russia. So that's the other thing that I missed when I first read the New York Times article but Wonkett and other people were quick to point out that this was
Starting point is 00:59:44 essentially the New York Times being like, oh, yeah. And because the FBI told us that like told us not to emphasize this, we released an article where the headline essentially absolved the Trump campaign. New York Times overrated. Right. That's what you were prescient. Right. Well, although then later on, like in that article where it says, oh, there's no love rush connection. They do actually mention that there is an investigation, but it's so deep in the article. Right. They say like we waited until the New York Times article was informed by this FBI investigation and what they were hearing from the FBI. you know investigation and what they were hearing from the fbi and therefore we waited until like the 11th paragraph to talk about these like huge bombshells that are dropping but like
Starting point is 01:00:30 does any of this add up to any sort of uh action against trump i i mean at this point i feel so uh cynical and tired and like he's gonna you know go out this term the same as he's been in his deep delusion and narcissism well I mean I think this article is more about like the early days of this investigation more for like what sort of potential consequences there are for the president because let's be real there there aren't really going to be many as far as I can tell right now. I mean, yes, sure. There are many things that we can look at and go, oh, yes, objectively that this law was broken or whatever. Yeah. I don't try and get too in the weeds with how I'm going to be relieved of this hell of the president, aside from what we can do to mobilize sort of blocks of voters to actually exercise. mobilize sort of blocks of voters to actually exercise.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I think it's useful from the standpoint of recognizing how big a problem it is that the New York Times and the FBI are doing this thing where out of even handedness, they are like doing what the conservatives want them to do and just not reporting this thing that had they reported it as much as they reported the Clinton email quote scandal. Oh, boy. Thanks, Maggie. So the article, like Miles was saying, came out like a few days before the election that absolved the Trump campaign. If they had just put front and center the fact that-
Starting point is 01:01:56 There is an investigation. Yeah. Which is true and was in the article. Yeah. Investigation ongoing. That's a good enough title. Yeah. Investigation ongoing. That's a good enough title. And then just right next to it, say another title, How to Do Laundry, which is a real New York Times headline. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Is it? Why is this making me laugh and cry? Yeah. Is this avocado making me smarter? That's perfect. That's what it is. You won't believe when you get to the end of this article about the Trump campaign, this woman cried. Right. Find out why.
Starting point is 01:02:33 All right. We have to move on to some more important news. There is devastating royal wedding news, you guys. What? Meghan Markle's father will not be attending to walk her down the aisle. Then it's not a wedding. That's not the latest news I thought. If the man doesn't give the woman away, it's not a wedding.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I thought he was coming. So it was back and forth, but she has officially released a statement saying that he will not be attending. So basically the way this went down is that he was having staged TMZ photo shoots. One of the photographs that was taken during these staged photo shoots was one that we had talked about on a past episode of Bloidwatch. Bloidwatch.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Because it has him in a Starbucks reading a book called England. And it's just him being like, yeah, I'm studying up on England. And then he also had some stage pictures of him trying to get in shape for the wedding. And it's really kind of sad and almost sweet that he's trying to make it seem like he is getting ready for the wedding. Or is he getting a check from TMZ, though, too? Well, he's getting a check, but they're going to take the pictures anyway. But if there's one thing we learn about American people,
Starting point is 01:03:48 if someone is suddenly ascending into a place of power, the people around you will try and make money off of you. Right. Yeah. But I think that's anything. But the book, though, is funny to me because we even pointed out, we're like, yo, that book is just a big, oversized,
Starting point is 01:04:01 seemingly picture book. Yeah, there's no way he bought that. But then you realize, oh, shit had to play to camera. Right, exactly. Is it reading on camera? No? Get a bigger one? It was essentially a coffee table picture book
Starting point is 01:04:12 of England's pictures. It could be worse. It could be so much. He could be like shit talking her for money from TMZ. No, exactly. And his other daughter was doing that. Exactly. Megan's half sister.
Starting point is 01:04:24 So all of this stressed him out quite a bit. He's a larger gentleman and ended up having open heart surgery fairly recently or heart surgery fairly recently. Did they say that's due to like the just stress of him? I mean, no, you can't really say what it's due to. Well, let's wildly speculate. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Definitely do. Congratulations. You played yourself. And also due to. Well, let's wildly speculate. Yes. Yes. Definitely do. Congratulations. You played yourself. And also due to a broken heart. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go. Boom. Got to go get it fixed.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I read a New York Times headline about that. That was- Broken heart? Yeah. No. Try this. Open heart surgery. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Also avocado toast. All right. Is it going to be that her mom will then now walk her down the aisle right is that because i feel like when the speculation was so crazy over the weekend like will he won't he won't he if not the right we'll do it or like an uncle yeah i've seen done but also uh megan markle is the people's princess i'm rooting for her i love that she's all over the news ever since i was a child i've been dreaming of being a princess. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And instead you're with garlic butt. Oh, garlic butt. You know what? He has his problems and when he came on this podcast he really dragged me through the mud and claimed that he made me. He's the motor running this operation? Yeah, he claimed credit for
Starting point is 01:05:43 my success in comedy and entertainment. Interesting. But I'm going to take the high ground, and I'm going to say, Edgar's a good guy deep down. Wow. He has his flaws. He has a pair of shorts. Have I not?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Have I talked? Oh, we know about the cum shorts. You know about the cum shorts. We haven't talked about it on the Daily Zeitgeist. We haven't? I don't think so. No, we did. Oh, we did.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yes, we did. Oh, yeah. I think Jack just blocked out of his mind. You just have his face. It literally had a visceral reaction to the work. And people actually, because I tell that in my stand-up set, people do come up to me and say, I'm so sorry. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I feel bad about the narrative I'm telling, but it's true. I like how messy we get on this show. Yeah, but you know, he's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. So let that be my response. I don't need to lower myself to drag it to you. Wow, look at you. Sorry, Edgar.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Wow, yeah. I'm just a better person. And just so people know, he jerks off into a pair of shorts. Pair of shorts, so really for the record. The same pair of shorts. That's who we're dealing with. Yeah, without clinging on.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yeah. Oh boy, hand, just, they stand up on the ground. So, uh. They stand up on the ground. So, I don't know. This is going to be interesting. The royal wedding. Anybody going to stay up for it?
Starting point is 01:06:54 Fuck no. I mean, no. I'll watch the highlights. Yeah, I'll watch the highlights. And when I watch those highlights, I will vicariously live through her. So, do you think, I'm always curious, because when we were looking on Google Trends, when the American interest, search interest on Google, spiked when the engagement was announced,
Starting point is 01:07:15 and for like a week it was like insane, then it severely dropped off and has not spiked ever since. She hasn't done anything surprising. But no, just in general, the amount of the search traffic around this wedding has been very low amongst Americans, at least according to Google. That's why I'm like, I'm trying to line up where people's actual enthusiasm is for this or if just kind of like our sort of like post-colonial thing. I have an answer to that. Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:07:39 That's why I asked. Okay. I think when we found out about the engagement, we thought, oh, wow, finally someone who's going to be a little less rehearsed and less prim and proper than... Than Princess Diana. No, not Diana. She's truly before my time. When I look at her, I'm like, she seems kind of boring.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Oh, my God. No offense. I shouldn't say that. She was like a punk rocker for the 80s. They were like, who is this devil? Wow. A school teacher. And also that marriage seemed like it was kind of arranged.
Starting point is 01:08:11 But what's her name? Kate? Kate. I truly do forget her name. She's that boring. She's so vanilla. Her last name is Middleton. Yeah, she was already upper class.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Middleton. She's just like middle school. It was all about Pippa anyway. Everybody last name is Middleton. Yeah, she was already upper class. Middleton. She's just like Middleton. It was all about Pippa anyway. Everybody's checking for Pippa. Exactly. Vanillison Middleton. Pippa is so vanilla. But with Meghan Markle, it was like, oh, finally, we're going to get someone cool and exciting,
Starting point is 01:08:36 as exciting as Prince Harry, because he's a pretty cool dude, too. I know. He's got red hair. Yeah. He was a playboy. Wow, he's got red hair. He was a helicopter pilot, I think. Yeah, she's like, isn't like from upper class parents.
Starting point is 01:08:49 That was also exciting. She's from the Valley, right? Yeah, I think so. But what is disappointing is she has been, I mean, and she's perfect. She's great. She's so sweet, seemingly. Get it out. She's been co-opted into the British royalty machine
Starting point is 01:09:07 where no one is ever allowed to step out of line and no one is ever allowed to be surprising. And the interviews, unfortunately, between them, you can tell there's so much that they're not supposed to say. That's the difference. That it's a bummer. It's boring. I want juicy gossip in my royalty.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah, well, Kensington does not like that shit that's why they were like livid about the the dad stuff because they're like yo we're not we already have to deal with the like like tabloids out here yeah don't we don't want tmz shit yeah uh one of our writers sam rudman uh was saying that uh at people like royalers, which is like an entire industry of media in England, are upset with the royal family for not having sent a tender, like somebody to tend to her father. They think that this all could have been avoided
Starting point is 01:09:59 if a royal... Like to mind him? Yeah, basically a minder. Wow. Which would have been a great movie. Adult PR babysitter, yeah. That's a funny idea. Good movie.
Starting point is 01:10:09 If no one's copywriting it, I'll scoop it up. We've got so many elevator pitches. All right, now picture this. It's very like King Ralph. It's a fucking... It's kind of a scumbag dad who had a few kids
Starting point is 01:10:19 and it's one of his daughters. Suddenly, he's back in her life because she's getting married to a prince. So they send Kevin Hart. Yeah. With a British accent? With a British accent. He can do it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Super Producer Anna Hosnia would just give him some accent tips, accent lessons. Wait, so who would that be? If Kevin Hart is the minder, then who would play Meghan Markle's dad? What's that comp? Is it The Rock? No, no, no. Gleeson.
Starting point is 01:10:42 He can't be Esht Love. What's his name? Brendan Gleeson? Yeah, Brendan Gleeson. Oh, sure. Brendan Gleeson, who is actually from the UK, you would have him be- The American dad? Brendan Gleeson, Irish.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I don't want to- I'm not trying to say Ireland. He's part of the UK. He's Irish. That you would have him play the American father, and then have Kevin Hart from Philadelphia play the royal minder. What about John Goodman? I could see him being the dad. John Goodman.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Oh, hell no. Super producer Anna Hosnia just signed me a note. John Voight? Yeah, get out of here. No. No, I'm serious. Out. Although he delivers one of the greatest monologues in Anaconda.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Snakes don't bite. Oh, they don't? Anacondas are the perfect killing machine. Anyway, I could do that all day. Anna, it's been a joy having you. It's been a joy being here. Where can people find you? You can find me at Bad Comics with an X by Anna with two Ns.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I have to specify that because if I don't, you don't know. I'm on Instagram with my comic, but also on Twitter. Look, Edgar and I have a Twitter feud, so please come out with your support. I need it. It's really important to me. I think most people are on your side. I do too. Sadly.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Also, if I ever want to be on Culture Kings again, I need all the support I important to me I think most people are on your side I do too but also if I ever want to be on Culture Kings again I need all the support I can get because I feel threatened by me oh for sure someone coming to the kingdom
Starting point is 01:11:52 yeah yeah I can feel it it's not called Culture Queens yeah I heard Jackie say that the other day no
Starting point is 01:12:00 no you did Jackie I'm checking for you you said it I know now Miles where can people find you you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles No, you did, Jakeese. I'm checking for you. You said it. I know now. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and possibly just looking on YouTube for more videos
Starting point is 01:12:13 on how to put in a new valve for my plumbing so I can have an ice maker. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the people on Twitter. I'm literally going to hit some of y'all up who were like, yo, I'm a plumber. What you need? What?
Starting point is 01:12:23 Because I might need you to FaceTime with me as I put this thing in. I'm so not a fucking handy person at all. We have such cool fans, though. We have plumbers, we got dudes who are just cutting up meat. Oh yeah, shout out to American Butcher.
Starting point is 01:12:39 He has a lit Instagram account. I'm a vegetarian and I'm going to follow that. And Dorian Gambler, you know what I mean? The homie who's making the wild water pipes for us. You know what I mean? Like this? Oh, right. The Zeitgang is out here.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Also, that's what we need to do. Eventually, we'll create a document. The Zeitgang will be like a real community of artisans. We got to have like a con. Zeitgang con. Zeitcon. Like con film festival? No. No, like can. Can. I gang con. Like con film festival? No.
Starting point is 01:13:05 No, like can. Can. I was told. I was pronouncing it that way, and apparently that is embarrassing. Con. James Con.
Starting point is 01:13:14 How do you say cans? Cans. Canis. Hey, did you guys hear about that new movie from Cans? Can, N-E-S? All right.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Uh, you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we ride out on, which miles. Today we're going to do Brother Reed, Crushed by a Truck,
Starting point is 01:13:46 from their album, The Illustrated Guide to 9 to 5. Just a dope, I don't know, I like Brother Reed. The production is cool. It's not your typical, I mean, it is kind of like
Starting point is 01:13:55 old sample-based hip-hop, but anyway, just enjoy this. It's Crushed by a Truck by Brother Reed. Crushed by a Truck. Yeah. Is that like a reference to
Starting point is 01:14:01 something that happened to them? Like bass? It's, no, I don't even know. I don't even know. Very specific. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:10 We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. I hate the cat that needs a special pen To write a basement hymn That I can play for my unfamous friends To throw the party in the same space we taped it in While they screaming words off the demo tape we gave to them So just take it in, take a minute if you need a second longer Put a song to see, put to your pause, we can accommodate your problem
Starting point is 01:15:00 I promise, no problem, beat is so monstrous And the reader's so conscious Fuck that shit, it's massive cause I'm unconscious Like them shooting bombers from beyond the arc And stomping on your conscience When the force of all this launches You contemplate the trouble and sift through the rubble Like I thought this was a bomb threat To El Pontius, spit at God's honors Heard he was a staunch between them Erewhonas And the Captain Morgan's letting rap destroy him
Starting point is 01:15:22 When he pass it back, he get his whole brain blown So the saying goes, wearing the same clothes To the Morgan's lettin' rap destroy him When he passin' back, he get his whole brain blown So the same goes, wearin' the same clothes To the specs of my brother Reed on 12-step recovery From subtlety, so fuck a shark, it's up in your discovery Y'all see techniques, kill, see cutlery I peep this music in the tight dresses, blue as shit The way she move her hips make me wanna be a Hoover Crip I'm tryna say I wanna bang, I wanna fuck her
Starting point is 01:15:44 And I wanna cut them like these pumps can't do to the mustard. Why must I bust? I don't know why the people I trust, I trust. I got damaged with just my luck. I got dressed up for this party and got crushed by a truck. God, why must I bust? I don't know why the people I trust, I trust.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I got damaged with just my luck I got dressed up for this party and got crushed by a truck Let me breathe, let this oxygen blend with me Cause you can listen to Jimmy, but y'all can't hear Jimmy It's more life to learn, plus he like a mic to burn He do it right like Voodoo Child's life return Sorta cool, sorta fazy, but he head trip mainly He be getting loose up in the sky with that electric lady
Starting point is 01:16:24 More than a war gun, he storm when the war come That like I saw him last year on tour, it was awesome Now go ahead, buckle, get your chores done Claimin' that you click with star-studded, they all sons Nice off of L. Wright, sorta well They used to be on four tracks, now we on twelves I hear a lot of cats bitchin' How they don't got a pot to make water or a fucking
Starting point is 01:16:45 hat to shit in, but I'm hungry, only keep my people among me, I see through the others y'all some peepholes dummy, and everybody wonders how I speak so grungy, when these trees so green and this beach so lovely, the sort of brilliant at water villain, and he push limits like Richard Gere, push on pretty women, most magnificent, grand killer, I'm at the wake, meeting the parents Cause raps ain't never been stellar Why must I bust? I don't know why the people I trust
Starting point is 01:17:17 I trust I, god damn it, just my luck I got dressed up for this party and got crushed by a truck God, why, I bust I don't know how the people I trust, I trust I got damned with just my luck I got dressed up for this party and got crushed by a truck We'll see you next time. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, We'll be right back. both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, Emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE Superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app,
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