The Daily Zeitgeist - Lemme Trend Bro 4/7: Trump vs. Iran, Twitter, Ye/Wireless Festival

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

In this edition of Lemme Trend Bro, Jack and Miles discuss TACO Trump's genocidal threats, Nate Silver's list of top Twitter follows, Ye headlining Wireless Festival (until it got cancelled), and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That over there is Mr. Miles Gray. We will be allowing one another to bang today. It is kind of a fucked up day. Miles, the president has threatened what would seem to anybody paying attention to context clues and what he could possibly mean. threatened a nuclear genocide? I don't know if it's nuclear.

What does he, he said a whole civilization will die tonight never to be brought back again. Well, because on the, if you remember the Easter tweet, it's like it'll be power plant in Bridge Day. Right. So that's today.

But my understanding was tomorrow was going to be nuclear annihilation. But yeah, this was this morning, he said, because he's addressing, this 8 p.m. deadline tonight, 8 Eastern deadline that he's like set for the straight to be opened or else. And I think that's why, so I think what he was telegraphing on Sunday was that the way for the,

you know, to bring the civilization down is to A, have no ability to generate energy, which is vital. And if many bridges are impacted, like any, like the movement of goods and stuff screeches to a halt. So I think that's From all the foreign policy people Because I've been just like where the fuck is this going? Because I think that's very scary is He is essentially at we're now at a point Where he either has to fully

Take the L publicly and humiliate himself Right Or continue to escalate Right And I think that's what makes it scary is because no one can even fathom That he's gonna fucking come to pay in hand And be like, okay I shouldn't we shouldn't have done this because I like that's like I guess the only lot like maybe

reasonable way that could happen but that's not going to happen there's no there's no reality where he's going to be like we got to stop we're ending the hostilities we're going to start we got to we got to rebuild the country to do all this because those are some of the things that the Iranians have demanded are like hey we're not going to negotiate with anyone who's going to keep fucking threatening us how does that even work and also continue to kill the people who we're sending to negotiate seems to be the other part of the strategy from the U.S. and

Israeli side. And now it's just been reported that like Iran has now just shut down all diplomatic channels, like indirect and direct channels of the U.S. Right. Right. Right. So he posted on truth social yesterday morning, uh, or this morning. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be, uh,

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God bless the great people of Iran. whether or not he is talking about using a nuclear weapon. Like that is, I feel like that is the intended message, like the threat. Well, the threat, nuclear or not is that like you will cease to have a functioning society. Like with what are you going to do with no power? What are you going to do when there's no electricity being generated?

What are you going to do if we hit desalinization facilities or all these other things? Like that's, I think, the optimistic view is that like he's not just going to go for just the biggest mass casualty event we've ever seen in the history of, I don't know, that we can remember. But either way, the danger exists for every single person on the planet if he escalates. And the way he escalates is going to matter because it's probably going to start with assets and allies in the region that are going to get attacked. You're already seeing the Gulf states getting, like, they're having their infrastructure attack that that would ramp up. So imagine if all the desalitization plants are hit in the Gulf region too, what that means for all those people who need potable water.

Just the byproducts of oil processing, like fertilizers and things like that, how that has these reverberations that will go into the food supply. There are just so many of these other things that are so interconnected. But everything is being described in the most simplistic, like one-dimensional way, which I think A gives stupid people the idea that this is like a very just kind of like logical like sequential like A to B and you bomb that thing and then they stop rather than understanding how like once these dominoes start falling it doesn't end with Americans being safer or more prosperous and it actually ends now a lot of human suffering across the globe. You're already seeing conflicts over gas and oil like in other regions of the world because of the choke point. that has, you know, been created in the straight. Right.

Yeah, it feels like the way, I mean, we've talked before about how the mainstream media when there's an act of violence being perpetrated by the U.S. military, they just immediately kind of reflexively in the U.S., like take that side and like start describing it the way an action movie would be. They're like, and then they made this decision. And here's how he made that decision. They just like basically swallowed the justification for the war and digest it. rather than being like, you know,

just paying attention to and keeping at the forefront of how you talk about this, all of the ways that this is causing death and destruction all over the world. You know, those are probably the most important stories. And I think what, I think everyone should also, we were just talking about this with Brian,

about there's such a lap of information that's available to people. And also, you know, just the way our economy, setup of the amount of toiling people have to do. It's very difficult for people to be like, I'm barely surviving paycheck to paycheck. Also, Congress is doing nothing while the sitting U.S. president is threatening like genocide. Yeah. Nothing. And I think that's also should really be revealing about what the nature is of the people that are even in Congress. Like, I'm, I'm hearing like

stronger words out of fucking Tucker Carlson. Yes. Uh, than other elected officials. And, I mean, obviously, I'm not saying like Tucker Carlson is finally welcome to the resistance, but, you know, broken clocks and all that. He's, he's sufficiently freaked out about what's happening. And I think this is just one of those things where people need to understand, like, even the people we have in office, they're doing some version of like, this is unacceptable. And this is what we get when we elect a narcissistic demagogue like Donald Trump. like that's like you you need to come harder than basically doing the the tweet uh version of you're like well we're not this guy and this guy's kind of weird huh right needs to really you really need to be sounding alarms at at every level and again

i know that and brian has been saying this they are not i'm not i'm not any illusion that these people aren't completely captured by different special interests or things like that however we still need to have an understanding of what we need, what like what a functioning government looks like, because then if we get completely nihilistic, then it's, I mean, there's, there's fucking nowhere to go. But I am,

it is very hard to find any sense of optimism when you look at, you know, who's running the Democratic Party and what they stand for. Because suddenly like genocide matters now too. It's like, it's also there's like so war crimes matter now. Suddenly it's just a very jarring thing. where ideologically they're so inconsistent too.

I mean, that should be alarming. They're doing hard work of making sure that anybody who has had, who has talked to Hassan Piker is in trouble and well-criticized that they've fully criticized them. That was an interesting thing for the past couple weeks is that the Democratic Party has been like going through these purity tests of like centrism and allegiance to Israel. Like at a time, when you would think that would not, not be something that you would want

you would want to be on the side of. Yeah, that brand is not doing great. And they are, like in Michigan, there's this tight three-way race for Senate. And two of the candidates are established Democrats, and one is

a progressive candidate who is campaigning with Hassan Piker. And everyone from the center and even from like the Trump administration are like really like suddenly making Hassan like the focus of the moment and being like he's an anti-Semite for his critical views of Israel is just it's an interesting yeah those are tax works so well in

2026 too so yeah right but yeah it is a complete distraction to say like look at this person who's advocating for human rights yeah oh god you know what are what are these people thinking Right. So I don't know. The Democratic Party is not not inspiring a ton of confidence. But yeah, as you said, like, I mean, Candace Owens has had enough like Tucker Carlson. We talked on yesterday's episode about Alex Jones. Like these people who, you know, are on the right, but all seem to be sufficiently freaked out. Yeah, Tucker, Tucker's also one of these people who, like, will act like he, you know, like he's disgusted by Trump, but also then, like, cheerlead him or try and get JD Vance to be his vice president. But, I mean, just, just this, but it's, I think it's important because he has a gigantic audience of conservatives and this is what he's telling them. It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the U.S. military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure. structure in another country, which is to say to commit a war crime, a moral crime against

the people of the country, those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say, no, I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out. So he may have lost Tucker Carlson. Yeah. And then you also have Alex Jones, who is now being like, what? What the fuck do we got to do to get this guy out? This is Alex Jones.

These are people who are supporting and like the type of people who are at the inauguration, right? Like so the things have shifted in some ways. Maybe not fast enough for the establishment to catch up, but to have time to catch up before he, you know, hurtles us over the edge into an inky abyss of, you know, death and destruction and war. but um yeah and again like it's the reverberations of it are like like every expert like who's talking about is like man like the shit that this could set off is really uh again disastrous but here here's Alex Jones now being like wow how do where's the 25th amendment that per to existential threat how do we 25th amendment is asked the problem is to get the 25th amendment's harder than impeachment

you have to get two thirds of the house and two thirds of the so what do we do tackle Trump and pretend let him pretend he's president and publicly report that he's going through a health issue and Vance takeover. It literally needs to be something like that. It's that bad. I've known in a long time. You've never called for a internal coup before. Ever, ever, ever. But that's how dangerous this is.

Yeah. Yep. So that's again. Did they say tackle him? Yeah. Basically tackle him. tackle him and like do a like the movie the ref and like

keep them keep them tied up in the back of the house like again fuck both of these guys but yeah they are clearly uncomfortable at best with what is happening and I don't know I mean there could be one of those things like for these guys they're both

they're both you know these performative shit houses so they they still have some sense of like what is real and what is not and like what can be exaggerated and what absolutely cannot be denied. Like, you cannot reopen the straight of whore moves just by fucking screaming. Right.

Or even thinking a military operation is going to be successful very quickly. And they even know that. So I think they're also looking at, I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, this is, we're, we've arrived. We're at that moment where the fucking guy who's lost his mind has his fingers on all the buttons now. And we're all just like, what the fuck is he going to do? Yeah.

I remember when Trump first got elected John Malaney was like Trump being president is like a horse being in a hospital Right I feel like we're I feel like we're at the point where it's like A chimpanzee that has been on like a face

And dick ripping tear Is in a like we're locked in a room With them and they just picked up a handgun Yeah there's like and there's 14 guns on the floor Right. Like it's, it has licked off a couple shots. Yeah, like with hair triggers. Like these things are dicier than the oozy that Jamie Lee Curtis had in true

lies when you dropped it down the staircase. Right. Like that's, yeah, no. And it's, I mean, it's like one of the, it feels so infuriating because, you know, everyone,

a lot of people were able to game out what the worst version of this presidency looks like. This is it. This is the nightmare scenario. Yeah. He's lost his mind and is in charge of the nuclear. arsenal and the entire U.S. military and has spent the last, you know, six months or, you know, year of his presidency, just cleansing the Pentagon of anybody who would be the people, like, you know, when, when Tucker Carlson is like, God, you know, these people need to say no and

like not, not follow orders. It's like he's been firing those people and nobody was saying shit. Like, you know, they they were making a big deal about it and like saying those people should be thrown in prison for saying they would deny orders. So, you know, that immune system has been, you know, under duress and being fucking killed off for the past year of his presidency. Like this is as dangerous as it could possibly get. Like, and our hopes are like that fucking J.D. Vance is going to do something brave. It's like, I don't, he's over, like, campaigning for Orban right now. Like, this motherfucker is just... He's like, I think the EU is meddling in your elections over here in Hungary.

That's what the fuck this guy's on. Yeah. This guy cannot be our hope. No, no, no. And I think, again, like, if the whole thing, like, in that clip, the guy with Alex Jones was talking to, it's like, even if, right, they invoke the 25th Amendment, Trump can like contest that. And like he said, it's like, then you need the, then now you need both the, both houses of Congress, both chambers of Congress, uh, to actually be like, yep, it's time.

And I just don't know. I don't that's, and that's the other part. And I think that's what's also absolutely damning about all of these fucking people is that the votes aren't even fucking there. And I think again, you think about, well, how does a government function? This is it not functioning at all, right, right, at all. So again, everybody can get the fuck out. Because they can't even, the bare minimum is unachievable. And I think it's so indicative of how much of a failure like this entire government has become over the last, you know, really since like post 9-11 when we put all of the power into one fucking guy's hands.

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Did you see this chart of, like, the most influential Twitter accounts, or this? Twitter accounts with the most engagement so far in 2026 that Nate Silver put out. Yeah, I noticed that because it was, I think, really interesting to see who he even listed as politically neutral on here. Right. Yeah, yeah. Dave Portnoy. Dave Portnoy is politically neutral. Oh.

But yeah. So it shows them as like, you know, bubbles. It's like a bubble chart. And, you know, the people with the most engagement are. Elon Musk at 251 million, and then Eric Dardy. I don't know who a lot of these fucking people are, but like, libs of TikTok is up there.

Brian Allen is the biggest liberal voice. And then, but it's just all massive, you know, right-wing accounts is like basically dominating this chart. And somebody just like pointed out, they went back and found a chart from Brandwatch in 2021 before Elon Musk took over of like the biggest, most influential accounts. And it's like Taylor Swift's number one, Modi is number two, Justin Bieber's number three,

but like Katie Perry, LeBron James, Simone Biles, like that recently. Twitter was a place to be the mouthpiece of just random, uninteresting celebrity brands. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense.

And like, it's so, it's crazy now. Like, I feel like this last week, there have been all these pieces about like, like what Democrats can learn from the conservatives media strategy. I think,

but the talk about trying to shut the fucking barn door when all of the fucking horses ran out. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's a huge. I think, it's like one of those things too. Right.

Like they rightly identified traditional media where, you know, sort of democratic leaning personalities and, uh, pundits were dominating. As that begin to wane, there was no strategy for, you know, the,

for Democrats to be like, okay, what's our presence on social media where everyone's, because everyone's rejecting mainstream media. Yeah. The Democrats are the, the way they approach it is they, they lose an election.

They're like, all right, how do we build up a left-wing Joe Rogan? Hassan Piker becomes kind of that. And then they're like, well, we got to take this guy down. Well, not even that. He became that after the election. He just, I think when they were like, oh, shit, here's this young person that everyone's listening to who's on the left.

They just didn't realize how far to the left from the Democratic Party he was, too. Right. I'm sure they did. But again, this is all, it's just, it's very much like the Democrats to then be like, oh, this thing that has the energy behind it, get rid of it because it's not allowing the status quo to fucking remain. Right. We got work to do.

We got some energy to redirect over here. And this guy's got too much energy behind him. So it makes it hard. Yeah. That Nate Silver thing, Dave Portnoy, Newtown. Dave Portnoy is, of course. I'm surprised they put Jimmy Fallon as neutral because I would even say he's,

you might have to go red, buddy. Jimmy Fallon. Yeah. It's like, I'm trying to be neutral. It's like you can't be neutral on a mootian. That's right. Just I think he's like interesting. You know, I like to pat his head.

He's cool. God. Just to just to live in a world where Katie Perry is one of the most influential voices. I know. It's like one of those things. I look back and I'm like, damn, things were simpler, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, nah, I just knew less. You know, that's like one thing too where I'm like, I, you know, once you know, once you know,

it's kind of one of those things that really felt like you kind of have to be like shit is there a vision for something better and i don't know like this this feels like unfortunately this is what sort of like empirical collapse looks like you know like this this kind of end of the american empire has been foretold over and over in history with the same kinds of things where it's like you didn't learn when to quit it when the when your time was up and you start lashing out on these little fucking military campaigns that bleed you dry of finances, like put the people of your country in even more

of a bind. And yeah, you're left with a mess. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I feel like maybe we, but like people now know less than they did when Katie Perry was influential because they have been

misled by all this bullshit or at least the, you know. Katie Perry, come tell the truth to everybody. Come tell the. She just wasn't saying shit. Yeah. Now we got Elon Musk at 251 million and James Woods at 27 million. Like really, he did what he set out to do, I guess, Elon Musk.

You could say. Yeah. And I think, again, it's the everyone doesn't live on social media too, I think is important to know. Like there are plenty of people who purely get their news from that. But I think there's also, there's also a very large amount of people who are like, who don't even know. know this stuff. There's like, tell me you are so uninformed. Yeah. That it's frightening. But yeah, when it comes to the potency of social media, like, you know,

the right wing has completely won that game. Yeah. And now like, yeah, just when you look at all the like the little bubbles that are blue on the side, they're all just like on the margins basically. So isn't John Marco on there? John Marco Sarasi, the comedian. Did they have him in there? I think he's on there. He's like in a little bubble. Um, that's, that's pretty wild. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right there against Shout out to Joe Mark. Against Trump.

Yeah. All right. There is a upcoming, the London's Wireless Festival. Is this a festival you were familiar with? Oh yeah. Wireless. This is a good one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big festival. They announced that Kanye was headlining. And first, all their brands, including Pepsi. Like, the main sponsor is Pepsi. You know Pepsi loves to be close to some pop music. They pulled out when they found out

Kanye was the headliner. And then Kanye offered to meet and listen to members of the UK's Jewish community. Government officials didn't, weren't persuaded by that and blocked his electronic travel authorization, effectively banned him from entering the UK as a result. The festival has been canceled. Oh, wow. About air, all-time backfires. Yeah, right.

I mean, he just did like those couple shows in L.A. That looked like a disaster. He was like stopping the show in the middle of it because he's just fucking unwell. But yeah, I mean, like there was wireless is like a, I can't believe it got canceled. That's like, that's huge because I'm, I guess the show. With that as their, went with Kanye as their headliner. That's fucking crazy. Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's wild. Doesn't the UK know like at this point there, there was also just when they think, about Glastonbury and just like kneecap and just like the whole thing with with acts that are going to upset people right I mean not that kneecap was upsetting people for the wrong reasons but yeah it's just like I don't know what you thought was going to happen just because Kanye put out a new album that you thought people like forgot that he was just had us was putting out Heil Hitler tracks and like swastika merch I'm sorry did you not read his apology he apologized bro. We're beyond that.

We're moving on. I mean, the UK does have a weird history of banning celebrity. They banned Snoop Dog, Tyler the Creator, and Martha Stewart on similar bands. Tyler of the Creator was banned for four years in 2015 by Teresa May because of his lyrics. She used anti-terrorism legislation to block his entry, claiming his music encourages violence and intolerance of homosexuality and fosters hatred with views that seek to provoke others to terrorist acts.

Oh, you shit. It's just wild to me that when we talked about the Bafdas and why they were like censoring people for, you know, deigning to mention Palestine. Right. And they're like, we don't want another kneecap situation. And knowing like that it's interesting that they,

for a group that was advocating for the people of Palestine, they were like, that is so anti-sexuals. Semetic and it can't it cannot stand here. Meanwhile, they invite a vowed anti-Semite Kanye West the headline and then a sudden like, oh, he can't get in. It's just such a, I don't know what the fuck anyone's saying that everything is upside down. Yeah. But yeah. It's, uh, yeah, I think it also shows like once once the corporate sponsors leave, then they're like, oh, fuck, that's everything. That's it. Um, it's the whole thing. Um, anyways, uh, Yeah, those shows looked like a fucking nightmare. The LA shows, it was like full of, it looked like that I saw like videos from the floor of the concert, the moshing. That shit looked like a Nazi heavy metal show. There was a lot of people.

I'm like, you're fucking like Kanye West. I'm sorry, yay. And that's who. And I'm like, of course you are because that's, that's the appeal now for, you know, all the shit that he's been doing. Look like some, look like the floor and green. I don't know if you saw that movie. The Rock Club from Green Room. All right.

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