The Daily Zeitgeist - Letterboxd VS Catholicism, To Wash Or Not To Wash? 06.05.24

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

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yeah i texted him like a couple like a few weeks ago because his cut his elder cousin is like a board member was like a famed chair like a board member of arsenal and like passed away like at the age of like 80 something his name was sir chips keswick and i remember i like texted it was not yes that was not his name sir chips keswick and i i texted him i said hey man i heard about sir chips my condolences and like three weeks had passed and he's like i'm so sorry i i saw this text it was incredibly rude of me to not answer immediately i thank you so much for reaching out i hope all is well. And he's like, just in the UK, man. And I'm like, yeah, dude, I get it. Oh, Sir Chips.

Sir Chips. So sorry about Sir Chips. My condolences. My condolences. It sounds like you're talking about a hamster. Yeah. In America,

he would have been Sir French Fries. Yeah. Sir Freedom Fries. Over here in the States. We call him Admiral Fries. Admiral Fries We call him Admiral Fries Colonel French Fries

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It's Wednesday, June 5th, 2024. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know what that is? Yeah. Yeah. It's National Ketchup Day, dickheads. It's also National Veggie Burger Day.

Why are you so mean about it? I don't get it because it's National Ketchup Day. That's how I fucking get when I think about ketchup. There's also National Moonshine Day, National Gingerbread Day, and Global Running Day. All of these can be enjoyed at the same time. Yeah. In a blender. Yeah. at the same time. In a blender. Moonshine, ketchup, veggie burger, gingerbread shake

and on a long run. Am I allowed to talk or do you have to introduce me first? You have ketchup what? Ketchup thoughts. I got deep ketchup emotions. I got ketchup thoughts. How come?

How come? Okay, Jack Handy. How come? How come? I'm trying to give you a new segment on your show. How come? How come? Or that Fred Armisen bit about the guy who's never saying anything without saying anything. You know what?

I can't say anything. But it's like, and I know, and I get that. And so, first of all, first of all. And the criticisms are valid. We only got, there's hella mustards and pretty much only one ketchup. One ketchup. Right. We landed on Heinz. Why did we land on the one ketchup?

I don't know. Have you tried the other ketchups? Yeah, that's a good point. I have tried, like, they are terrible. They fucking suck. When somebody tries to make, like, a healthy a healthy ketchup or like an heirloom ketchup, it always tastes like a hot, moist room. It never hits the ketchup button.

Yeah. This is our house ketchup. Get the fuck out of here. When you look at like, you go to the store, there's like Heinz, Hunt's, and then there's like this one that's in a jar, like a spherical one. You're like, oh, and they're like tomato something or whatever you eat. And you're like, this is chunky, weird ketchup. It's terrible.

It ain't anything different. The best thing to do, curry ketchup. Just put like curry powder in your ketchup and then mix that up. That's a nice, that's an easy one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's weird that we're so particular about our ketchup because ketchup mixes well with like mayonnaise and i like a little ketchup with basically sugar yeah yeah you know that's all it seems that seems like it should make it

easy but like even hunts i'm like get this shit out of my face i don't know why only why would anyone ever make the Hunts decision? Like, you go to a restaurant and they have Hunts. It must be so much cheaper than Heinz. Like, Heinz has to be... Heinz has been rich for so long that they have, like, Gilded Age money. There was, like,

a woman named Druella Heinz, who got a bunch, like, heir of the Heinz fortune, who moved to London and, like, was friends with, uh, uh, Oh, who's a Philip Seymour Hoffman.

Just, he played, didn't just play him. Who's that? Capote, Truman Capote. Yeah. Play Capote.

Like Capote was friends with like Druella Heinz. So she just lived in like Scotland. I think in either London or Edinburgh and just like was friends with authors and sponsored, like gave money to a bunch of authors and everything. They've just been ketchup rich forever. Ketchup rich for generations. It goes deeper than stealing.

One product. One product. They're just like, we're done here? Wait, really? These fucking rules. I bet they were bumping off other ketchup. There must have been a time when there were just like 30 ketchups in America, and Heinz slowly took them out

one by one. I think restaurants that have the hunts think that it's the equivalent of like Pepsi. Oh, it's just Pepsi to their Coke. You know, we carry Pepsi products, but it's actually the equivalent of like Faygo, you know? Yeah. It's a tab. Here we

carry only Faygo products. I'm seeing more Faygo in the West Coast though. I thought that was in the It's like, here we carry only Faygo products. I've seen more Faygo on the West Coast, though. I thought that was in the beginning. I thought that was like a Midwest thing. Let's Faygo. Yeah. Anyways. Anyway.

Yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka 99 poop balloons stinking in the summer sky. Rubbish bags. It's red alert. There's feces here from somewhere else. The poop machine springs to life. Opens up one eager eye.

What is happening here? Telling me you're a tough guy. When 99 poop balloons go by. That is courtesy of you, Kurt, to do that on television. In reference to the North Korea poop balloon attack that we've been hearing about. And that I personally was like, how did I not invent poop balloons as a teenager? You know? Yeah. As a former monologue writer in late night television you this is what you stay up late at night

praying for is that story yeah that is oh my god it's north korea and it's poop balloons yeah that's just like i'm coming in at 10 tomorrow i don't you're like i got work to do you're like i got work to do baby no i'm sleeping man that story writes itself we're good we're good all right i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray yes it's miles gray still confused from that food and wine article about fall m&ms uh-oh 6.8 weeks 6.8 weeks 6.8 weeks what the fuck is 6.8 weeks 6.8 weeks. 6.8 weeks. 6.8 weeks. What the fuck is 6.8 weeks? 6.8 weeks. This fucking article. Shout out to Zach Van Nus for that.

They not like us. You know, obvious. The most confounding paragraph in the written word ever. Can I read something for you, Ian? Really quick. Just so you understand. There is this. There's this.

Thank you. Ian said no. He said no. Oh, he did? Okay, my bad. He said no. No, you know what? Actually, go ahead. Go ahead. Is it cool? Alright, here's the thing. We've lost Miles. Yo, did I see my new tats?

I pull up my shirt all 6.8 weeks. It's calendars. No, there's this fucking food and wine article thing that's talking about how m&ms put out this pumpkin flavored m&m like in the summer and how that's like way earlier than normal fall flavored things and they said quote this doesn't make sense this is in this food and white article the reason quote the pre-seasonal launch of the milk chocolate pumpkin pie m&ms is a strategic move that taps into Mars market research. This research indicates that Gen Z and millennials plan to celebrate Halloween by dressing up and planning for the holiday about 6.8 weeks beforehand. Well, 6.8 weeks from Memorial Day is the 4th of July. So you still have plenty of time to latch

onto a pop culture trend and turn it into a creative costume what the fuck all right so this is hitting me again all over and it's even crazier than i remembered it being wow you know we don't know shout out zeitgang that's in the discord being like i don't even know people have lost their mind over dumber stuff miles i. I'm not going to lie. It's just the most inefficient writing. I think the most charitable reading... The ideas don't make any sense. I think the idea is just saying, well, what's 6.8 weeks even mean?

They're like, well, 6.8 weeks from now is 4th of July, but 4th of July is five weeks and three days from Memorial Day. And why is Memorial Day important in all this? Because it's Halloween? I don't fucking know. That's the launch of the Halloween season? Maybe the article published on Memorial Day? It published on the 30th.

It published days after Memorial Day. What the fuck? Look, man, this is just, this is just, what the sigma is going on with this writing? What the sigma is going on? This is almost, it's like so absurd. It's like, it's like walking out into a field like there's two armies facing each other and then just someone drops their shield and their sword and they take off their armor and they walk into the field and stand there and they're like strike

me down there's too many openings where you're like frozen you're like why is this so weird i don't know which thing to latch on first. Like the fact that there's a pumpkin M&M in the first place, the fact that Memorial Day is involved, that the 4th of July is involved. What's the 4th of July 6.8 weeks from? What the fuck is 6.8 weeks? We celebrate 6.8 weeks early? I don't know.

Anyway. July 4th is when it's coming out, right? Or is it not? Dude, I don't even know. It doesn't even matter anymore. I've lost my family over this yeah i haven't seen my kid in 24 hours yeah i'm not letting him put my book out yeah i can't launch it into an environment that's unstable thank you ian yeah i just can't we need to get that we need to get to the bottom of this before and i don't care who's at the top by the

way speaking of weird writing uh today i was reading an interview with Nate Cohn, the pollster, in The Intelligencer, and the author used the words quote-unquote instead of quote-unquote. Wow. Isn't that New York Magazine Intelligencer? Yeah, that's like a real publication. Damn, bro, the bar is fucking low.

This is one of those all intents and purposes where someone's like, yeah, intensive purposes. All intensive purposes. For all intensive purposes. Should of. But I looked, yeah, so I looked at it, I was like, wait,

is there a use of quote on quote that makes sense? Surely the intelligence, or it's right there in the fucking publications name. It's intelligent, sir, than me. And now it's just a it's just a mishearing of quote unquote. Quote on quote on quote. They're talking about the movie Wedding Crashers. There is just quote unquote. Dude, thank you.

Lasagna. Yeah. Dude, love that one. Love that one. You motorboat sons of bitches. It's time. It's time for a cultural conversation. Come on.

What do they vote for? Comfort or do they vote for speed? Come on, man. She's still in the house. Where is she? Where is she? Where is she? Uh-oh.

What about, what about, oh, he does the pancakes. Or he goes, patato, patato, patato, patato. Yeah, they're weird like relationship, baby. Can I talk with each other already? Anyway. Anyway, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian. Host of the truly great podcast All Fantasy Everything, TV writer, now author

of the acclaimed new memoir, T-Shirt Swim Club, Stories from Being Fat in a World of Thin People, which was called As Charming and Funny as it is Poignant and Thoughtful by none other than Roxanne Gay.

Roxanne Gay. It's Ian Carmel! Ian! Hello! Ian! Hello! Hello! But I'm not here to talk about the book, okay? That's not why I'm here. No, no, not at all.

I'm not here. Please, for listeners, he has... He has seven books he's holding right now around his head. I'm not here. He's Brady Bunching with his... Hollywood Squares. Yeah, Hollywood Squares with mostly books. I'm not here to talk about t-shirts. It's a beautiful looking book, by the way.

Thank you. Aesthetically pleasing. There are no words inside. And then we find that to be a plus. It is completely empty. Quick read. Love it. You can call it on your bookshelf.

You can say you've read it because the cover is it. That's what I call perfect beach read. It's a perfect beach read. It comes with a free coupon for a Tommy Bahama polo shirt. Okay. Yeah, and a pina colada flavored M&M, which is dropping strategically December 12th for the summer. Yes, 6.8 weeks out from the birth of the Savior.

But again, I don't want to talk about the book where Shea Serrano read it and said a lot of people are funny and a lot of people are warm and a lot of people are insightful. But Ian Carmel in his lovely book here somehow manages to be all three of those things at once fully and completely across every single page. I'm not here to talk about that. We're not here to talk about that. Embarrassing for me. It would be an embarrassing practice for me.

That's actually pretty cool, man. That's pretty right. Yeah. Congratulations. Congratulations on the book. It's out in a week or less than a week from today. June 11th. June 11th.

People find out how big of a fraud I am. I can't wait. Amazing, man. Well, congratulations on the book. Thank you. It's a book about growing up fat, being a fat adult, fatness in pop culture, all that stuff. It's like a memoir and 13 essays about the world.

And my little sister, who's also a fat person and got a doctorate in psychology and like master's degrees in nutrition and all that. Damn, Melissa. She's in nutrition. Damn, Aliza. Oh, sorry. Damn, Aliza. Mispronounced that one. Why did you spend so much time in college?

She responds to every essay personally, but then also just from her area of expertise. So we think it's a little, some laughs, some learning, some love. And again, there's almost no words in this. So you can just read it. You just plow through. It's up to you. Throw it up on your head.

You've read The Giving Tree. It's about half the word count of that book. We stole a lot of the, it's up to you up on your you've read the giving tree it's uh about half the word count of that we stole a lot of it's it's mostly just a lot of copy pasta in there copy pasta until we hit 60 000 words command v command v command v command v command v command v okay we're just there and then you can say oh i want to read 10 books this summer bam now it's nine t-shirts we got you. Easy. All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, a couple of things that we might get to. We might not. I don't know. It's pretty fun just bullshitting. But the internet is abuzz about Jason Kelsey's take on how much men should wash themselves. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. You got to ask the fellas on this one.

There's a male birth control. Fellas, fellas. They get you to wash your arms. We need a dude counsel. Dude counsel. Dude counsel. Yeah. We're going to talk about birth control

that you just rub into your shoulders. Great. Male birth control that actually works. And we might even talk about dogs biting male carriers. All of that, plenty more. But first, Ian, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

This is a very specific to Ian Carmel right now, search history result. But it is best build for mage bg3 i i recently downloaded the video game balder's gate 3 and it has it didn't even come out recently i think it i think it's come out in the last year but it has completely swallowed my life i have i have been lost in a world of dungeons and dragons role-playing yeah for the last uh for the last few days i'm currently unemployed i'm about to go on the tour for the book and everything but i am in this beautiful period where there's not quite enough time to do anything constructive so i am playing a video game a video game where

when you're creating your character there are different options for what penis they have. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And you get to see them? You get to see them. You get to cycle through three different penises or a default or three different vulvas or the default. And do you see it, like, what it looks like in action,

what it looks like just, like, kind of hanging out? Oh, like a lot of penis physics? Only soft. You never see it erect and honestly the biggest changes are in pubic hair like the uh amount and thickness of the pubic hair that i've noticed there are no i think as this is supposed to take place in sort of a fantasy world of the past no circumcision so it's you're hanging windsock on every penis available can you can you like is that like another are there sliders for customizing the foreskin to be like there are

no i wish a little bit more junk on that okay there's not there's not they haven't gotten that in depth yet i'm hoping for a patch at some point or maybe a mod that does let you get maybe a little more involved in the foreskin dynamic full-onon wizard sleeve. Yeah, yeah. I got it. Yeah, yeah. Full-on hanging down wizard sleeve. I'd like piercing options. That's a mage wizard sleeve. Wizard sleeve right there. Is that mage is short for major? Is that correct? Major. Yeah, mage, mage.

I got that right. Major chips. Major chips. R.I.P. to major chips, dude. R.I.PIP to major fries. I'm hoping for some sort of vascular content as far as the foreskin goes. If you want to make it vanier or less vanier.

But again, Baldur's Gate 4 does have to come out at some point. Baldur's Gate 4 skin. Thank you. You're welcome. Love that DLC. So Baldur's Gate, I'm hearing a lot about this Baldur's Gate. You're talking more and more about this Baldur's Gate, I'm hearing a lot about. I'm hearing a lot about this Baldur's Gate. You're hearing a lot about this game.

We're talking more and more about this Baldur's Gate video game. You guys hear about this? It combines what's great about Dungeons & Dragons with, like, are you fighting? How is the game? What is the gameplay like? It's pretty fucking immersive. The storytelling is,

the immersive storytelling of our M&M pumpkin launch was our goal. Everything's fucking storytelling now that it feels corny to talk about something that's actually telling a story. Actually storytelling. It actually is.

Our menu tells a story of heirloom tomatoes that's eaten underneath the Tuscan sun. It's actually, I mean, it's a- Welcome to Panera. Welcome to Panera Bread.

Today's soup stories are as it's just it's like fun it's corny i mean it's it is like a corny like dungeons and dragons video game but it's just fun i'm playing like a fighter you're you've got like a brain maggot that is that gives you super psychic powers that you have to like either remove or like rfk jr it's fucking ripped from the headline you really do have a brain worm you literally baldur's gate 3 is about having brain worms about this presidential election kind the good kind of brain worms and also a speech impediment that we're not allowed to make fun of right robert rfk jr i feel like that's the one we

should be anytime it's a kennedy like shouldn't we come on especially like a male I kept my powder dry for Susan Collins too you know yeah just he's got as I wanted to yeah kept it dry kept it dry for that one yeah well that was brave of you miles we're coming back to her 10 years later we're gonna do a Susan Collins retro yeah

dunk contest bro Vince Carter shit on her we're just trying to negotiate it so she somehow has beef with Kendrick lamar and we're gonna let him handle the entire sanction yeah yeah that's right i every time maybe this is just being a white dude approaching 40 but every time i even reference kendrick lamar i do feel like a white dude approaching 40 i know people i know white women who have gotten into the beef because they're like, I can't believe what, like, is Kendrick Lamar about to like blow the lid open on the entire industry? I'm like, hold on easy. Like, yeah, this is, I don't know about all that.

I just think he's so brave if he's standing up for the children. And I was like, are we about to go to QAnon town? That's not what it is. It's like a dose of QAnon town, and I think these are already intersecting worlds anyway. There's also like a healthy amount of true crime podcasts

in the Kendrick stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like serial Kendrick Lamar where he's done research. They've got evidence. He's breaking news. You know, like in the third song, it's like, oh, now we have receipts.

We have lectures of Ozempic. It works the same way a true crime podcast works that was the kendrick rollout but right right right yeah anyway i'm playing this role-playing game and it's just it's just a black but i'm also i'm also so worried that i'm doing it right the entire time because it is such an investment of time like you play these games they take like you know 100 hours or whatever to like complete so i'm like making sure i'm doing the right thing because i don't want to be 90 hours deep and it's like oh you forgot to fucking pick you know you forgot to like throw this pumpkin at this wall two hours in and now you're gonna lose to the boss like whatever it is so i should have maxed

out dexterity fuck right is multiplayer? Is it open world? What are we talking? You can multiplayer this one. I am someone who I've never liked. I played this game called Ultima Online when I was a tween and a teenager. I was heavy into it, which was an MMORPG. Ever since then, I have stayed away from online games because nothing scratches that same itch.

Nothing is ever quite as satisfying. First time in there. I lost myself to it. Alright, amazing. I think that's our first Baldur's Gate 3 search history, even though it's incredibly popular. Yeah, for sure.

I went through it and everything. I haven't looked up one constructive thing. It's all like BG3, Best Weapon, BG3, How Do I Beat the Trollmaster, BG3. Just like every single one of those things. And then like way down there, it's like mortgage, how to pay. What is a mortgage exactly? How many months can you not pay mortgage? Yeah.

Roof hole bad? Question mark, question mark, question mark. Second mortgage good, right? First mortgage good, second mortgage, why not? Reverse mortgage, ASAP, just like stuff like that. I've got my back, right? RFK, how to vote multiple times. How to use HELOC to buy Fortnite skins.

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back and we do also like to ask our guests what is something you think is underrated yeah okay i've thought about this a lot oh i've got a lot of different okay underrated i think baby boomers are underrated. Go on. Really? Yeah. I've really, I've, you know. I hate my parents. I hate my parents. This does spring from me loving my mommy and daddy and being like a little bit, like when people are talking about boomers.

Just being like, but I love them. But I love them, daddy. But my daddy is one. But my daddy's a boomer i think there's this tendency like dating back to the okay boomer thing that still resonates to this day of us blaming all of our problems on the baby boomers and them not getting it you know and them being like you know like well they they bought a house for 4500 or they bought a you know they went to college and it cost like you know 16 in a sack of acorns like to go go to Harvard or whatever. Like we blame all these problems.

And yes, they are out of touch. There is an extent, there is like some of that. But as I've been getting older, I've just been seeing, it's like, oh, this is just a thing we do over and over and over again, every generation since we've invented the idea of generations, which I think might've started with the baby boomers. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

I like, I don't, I don't really think people like in the, in the 14 nineties were like, Oh, you know, these fucking Renaissance, there's a common Renaissance, you know,

Renaissance is never, nobody in the Renaissance wants to work. You know, it comes my enlightenment ass uncle. Yeah. Like the complaints and the fears of young people, uh, the older people being afraid of young people

does go way way the fuck back way the fuck the fear of the young fear of the young has always been there and also fear of new technology to the point that writing down music writing down like sheet music was seen as like the original it was like napster back in the day they were like stealing stealing music what now i can just sell sheet music on the street it's gonna ruin it anyone can play my tunes no yeah i saw this like the original piracy campaign 15th century music i saw this this isn't good i was thinking about sharing and when we share a little piece of media but i'm just gonna bring it up up now because it's so good. Did you guys know that the word dildo used to just be a placeholder?

Like the way tra-la-la-la-la is currently, you know, like, yes. It was like dildo. It's like a musical. Yeah, like dildo, dildo, dildo, dildo. You know, I saw a fair maiden and she came my way. Dildo, dildo, dildo. Like that used to be in the era of lute music and everything. I saw this video and I had to keep digging to make sure it wasn't somebody just pulling a prank.

Right. It was a BBC3 interview and this British music historian was just talking about how, yeah, Dildo used to just be a placeholder in songs and they have recreated some of these songs due to the original Napster writing down sheet music of like this loop music. You can find it if you look up like Dildo dog song and it's this dude singing in this high falsetto. I almost don't want to say anything else. It's one of the funniest videos I've ever seen.

Everyone should go look it up. It's so funny. But I just think I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't think the problem is one of the funniest videos i've ever seen everyone should go look it up it's so funny but i just think i'm like i don't know man i don't think the problem is everything we blame on boomers is boomers fault i think it's humanity's fault and they're just one of the first generations to get named right yeah it is one of those things too it's like because we don't like right even right now most people don't know who the heads are of like multinational fossil fuel companies so it's like who do i know because that's i can get angry at them yeah because i know them my stepdad i can get mad at

him like that's who i'll be mad at carl who golfs you know yeah yeah yeah sure sure sure i just think it's too easy it's like the next 35 year old head is ceo of uh exxon valdez is that still the company he's gonna be so chill. He's going to be cool, man. He gets it. He grew up listening to The Blueprint. He'll be alright. That in itself is now a 40-year-old white guy reference. He grew up listening

to Skibbity Toilet. Skibbity Toilet, yeah. Skibbity Ohio, bro. We will have a fucking Sigma Skibbity Toilet CEO of Northbity Toilet, yeah. Skibbity Ohio, bro. We will have a fucking Sigma Skibbity Toilet CEO of Northrop Grumman, and that's going to happen because we slop off these things on generational

issues, rather than identifying these key human elements in ourselves, and I just think it's not fair to the boomers, which, I mean, whatever. Again, they all own homes. Who gives a fuck? It's avoidant. It's avoidant behavior where it's like no these are human tendencies these are

cultural tendencies things we need to address in ourselves rather than blame mommy and daddy yeah plus their their blood's chock full of lead what did we expect so full of lead mostly lead mostly they had they had to jack off to memories in magazines for most of their lives? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I know my dad's blood is so leaded. We used to use his fingernail clippings as pencil graphite. Kids, just write with those. Just put them in the mechanical pencil.

Just puffing leaded gasoline to get high. I just think, I don't know. It's also uncreative dissing like the boomer shit leave it alone and yes yes this is me trying to change the world because i am on the cusp of being of being the equivalent of being the next boomer yeah i'm so washed it i the books behind me are like arranged by color there's a beautiful, thriving ivy. I'm fucking washed, man. It's funny because right now, all the attacks I feel generationally are all to do with style and aesthetic things.

You're like, dude, not me getting caught out here wearing millennial-ass Birkenstock cloths. I'm like, those just look alright. They look alright still, right? Come on! By the way, you know wore the like fucking dad sneakers and dad hats and shit that you guys actually wore probably five years ago right right that's

boomers started that yeah yeah the chunky sneaker yeah gen z coming from millennial culture my wife told me the other day that the the side part is apparently coming back. And I'm like, it just left. The shit is getting so hard. You know? So like with women's hairstyles, we were in the middle part. We were in the middle part for so long. Like it was, and it was,

uh, Chugi, I believe was the word at the time. Yeah. Yeah. I have a side part where you parted on the side. Chugisimo, chugisimo,

chugisimo, chugisimo. And, uh, and now the side part is like fucking coming back. And it's like. Hell yeah. I got, you know, like I got socks that are older than that change. And I go through socks pretty regularly.

So another dude. I hang on until they disintegrate. Speaking of. Until they're falling off your feet. Like you're emerging From the jungles The No show socks Are apparently

Like mad millennial now And you're not supposed to do that You gotta have a sock showing Yeah They say You're clocked easily As over 30 If you got the no socks on

They're like You know what else Clocks me easily As over 30 My fucking face Yeah My old General baldness

Yeah My My hairline Retreating back On my forehead And also my face. My old general baldness. My hairline retreating back on my forehead, dude. And also my concerns clock me over. I'm on blood pressure medication. Look at my pharmaceuticals, man. That clock me over 32.

You know how far down the list my socks are? Deep. Blood pressure medication is the hot new party drug that they're taking at their rainbow parties. Hell yeah, dude. Kids are on amlodipine, dude. What's something you think is overrated? Okay.

I put down a list here. Oh, I'm going to spend this entire podcast destroying now in this section any goodwill that i had before i'm not saying it's bad i'm saying it's getting a little overrated is a letterbox culture letterbox culture this is it and this is an extremely online yeah sure complaint and i do the same thing I do the same thing with watching movies, and I do the same thing with reading books in a big way. But it's this sort of like, but it's especially bad in the Letterboxd culture where it's like reclaim,

there's this sort of reclaiming old bad movies that I feel like, where there was this huge, the first time I noticed it was when, like the Wachowski Speed Racer movie. Oh, my God. Speed Racer is an actual classic, okay? Yeah.

What there is, there's this, like, huge Letterboxd community of being, like, that Speed Racer movie is actually one of the great movies that was made in the last decade, or whenever it got made. So, just for my understanding, I know, like, Letterboxd is sort of like this social, like it's a platform, right?

Where people kind of basically share their taste and like everyone has like a profile where you can see how much of a cinephile. You log every movie. You put your review. You have a top four. Yeah. It is a new, sorry, go ahead.

No, no. So no, just, yeah. Cause I know it because I see it so much on Twitter that like just by just sheer osmosmosis, I understand what it is, but I know there are plenty of people who are not as terminally online as we are that aren't understanding. So yeah, I see a lot of cinephile flexing

there, but the idea that they're trying to revise... We're doing a revisionist take on the Wachowski Speed Racer movie? I saw that shit in the theater thinking it was gonna be i i didn't somehow even though the trailer communicated to me that this was not going to be good i still went i think because i was like as a kid i liked the cartoon or the anime and then i was like this is i feel like i'm gonna have like not even like a good kind of seizure in

here oh right right like a bad like the bad. Like I didn't just take blood pressure medication and a beta blocker, you know? Yeah, yeah. From my dad, who's a blooper and his dick pills. I'm doing hypertension. We're hypertension rolling

and going to see. But I just think it's, on the one hand, I mean, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. You know what I mean? Have fun as much as you want. Log your movies. I think that's great. on the one hand i mean i'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade you know have fun as much as you want log your movies i think that's great at the other it's this weird it's this there's this strange cultural consensus and like critical reappraisal of things

that becomes very self-sustaining within letterbox culture right where it is no longer it's you know there was a like iconic list of movies and then this iconoclastic list of movies that i think has emerged out of letterbox culture in an attempt to sort of break that down but i think then that iconoclastic list of new movies has become the iconic list of movies within this community again where there's all these like reappraisals of these new

like this director's more important than we thought that director actually sucks this more important where it's like I just think it's like a little bit overrated

and I end up watching a lot of these movies and maybe I'm stupid and maybe that's just a thing I don't get and I don't appreciate film the same way but like I will try to engage with these movies and i'll leave them being like no i that did suck i did not i did not enjoy that movie what i've watched speed racer

five times this year i can't fucking get my mind i'll see if it changes i whip i I whip myself in the back with that whip from the Da Vinci Code. Yeah, Silas. The Paul Bettany's. I will hit myself with that. I will do push-ups. Also an Arsenal fan. The character or Paul Bettany? Paul Bettany.

Silas. Silas, the weird sun-averse monk who whipped himself and self-flagellated. Big Arsenal fan. I can see. From what I know about Arsenal, I think there might be some aspect of self-flagellation. Self-flagellation. You've been around enough of us gooners for sure. I watch it and I'm like, you know what this overrated, the truth I've landed upon in trying to talk about this to you is that it makes me feel insecure.

That's why I don't like it. Yeah, exactly. So I loved the movie Teen Wolf when I was a kid. Absolutely. And then I grew up and I had film takes and I took my film taste really seriously. And then I watched the movie Teen Wolf again. Yeah. And I still fucking loved it. It rips.

And I was like, every, so every movie that I've ever watched is just viewed through a Teen Wolf shaped lens of like what movies should be. And my taste in movies is completely subjective and like doesn't. And like that, I think as long as everybody's willing to admit that, that like you're just, you probably like speed racer a lot. Cause you saw it when you were like nine and like filters in some weird way

through a nine year old brain that it doesn't necessarily work for through an adult's brain or a teenager's brain. And so we're all just going to agree to disagree on that one. But movies are so fucking subjective, so based on how I was feeling at the first time that I watched it. Yeah.

It's so subjective. Because there are times people will suggest movies to me and i'm on the brink of losing respect for them after i see it and i'm like are you fucking what the fuck dude i thought we were on the same page with shit and then i'm like i don't but then again that's just like it's truly from whatever like the things that they said they liked about it were like the things i hated and i was like oh you know what i'll never it's just it's just one of those things where you have to like not get to like get out of your sophomore year dorm room where you're like you don't fucking fuck with city of god yeah dude for real city of god you know what i mean that was me at my most pretentious

favorite movie i didn't ask you that uh probably city of city of god you know those if i have to pick one i'm not making you pick one. Those kids are from the favelas. Those aren't even actors. Those are real favela kids crying in that scene. So, I don't know, dude. I don't know anybody else doing it like this. Did you even know that Brazilian people could be poor?

Because I just found out in the movie City of God. They wore just yellow shirts playing soccer all the time. What the fuck, dude? This shit was rough. This is what the whole country is. There was like a military dictatorship. They're all named Rinaldo.

Shit's fucked up. We're all just watching John D. Ullman waiting for her to hop up on the top of a van and serve him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I also think,

not to get too deep, but I do think, we live in an era where I think we're searching for meaning and a lot of our basic needs are taken care of for better or for worse in a lot of ways. And I think a lot of people find themselves at 30 and they're like, okay, I have a job. I make enough money, but my job is not my cause. I don't really have any hobbies that I'm passionate enough about that I can derive meaning from them. So I think what I'm going to do is watch movies and log those movies.

And that will be my higher calling. Right. And I kind of think there's a little bit of that happening where it's like I watch and log movies and there's a little community based around it. And I guess in that way maybe letterbox is underrated these are the talmudic scholars of our time i think it kind of is yeah except i mean that's what we made that comment about like taylor swift fandom and like stuff like that like i think you're i think this is what we have instead of organized religion like as organized religion has faded in the last 50 years, like this is the needs that organized religion were,

was addressing did not go away. And so that's what this overly strong, desperate, sometimes feelings about culture can come from. People like to kill each other over that shit. Jack, which one would you keep Catholicism or letterbox culture? That's a great question.

Oh, man. As a Catholic, what do you think? I can't answer that. My guilt will force me to die. Vatican II or Godfather II? Which one do you have to pick? I'm going to split the difference. Godfather III. Because the Pope is in that one.

Very Catholic. I think the Pope orders a hit. I think at one point, like a helicopter hit. I don't know. I didn't see it when I was old. That's Paul Bettany and fucking Da Vinci code, baby. Same thing,

right? Yeah. You can't trust Pope's turns out. Speaking of weight, follow me at hell L four 20 69 on letterboxd. Uh, or, yeah, I'm not on letterboxd uh yeah i'm not on letterboxd and like it's similar to how i feel about video games

like i would just lose so much time to that shit like that's all i would do i get my movie recommendations from podcasts perfect yeah yeah like an adult like an adult and i but even like speed racer very big among like podcast film bros for sure is it oh my god yeah yeah really that's why it truly is like that's why when i when i get in that feeling like these what the fuck are they talking about and i start getting angry that's when that's my cue emotionally to be like it's you just got to let people do what they do remember miles you can only control what you're in control of don't worry about what other people like that's what they do there's plenty of shit you like that people will get fucking over the moon over that

shit so just disengage and let go and let let let and let letterbox yeah i think the matrix was so meaningful for some people that like they just never were like it just you know they couldn't they bought season tickets yeah yeah yeah the other thing not to keep dwelling on but i also think like it is you know when we were growing up or at least when i was growing up there were like three people in the culture who were like that you know it was like siskel and ebert and your local film person and that's who cared about movies like that. Unless you worked at a video store and now all these people can find each other. So it seems like ever-present, right?

It's like everyone has become Kevin Smith. There were so many more Kevin Smiths than we knew about. They had enough ambition to log a movie, not to direct one. And now you can just log a movie. Right, right, right. There you go. And maybe we wouldn't have Quentin Tarantino if Letterboxd existed back then.

He would have just been the most prolific person on Letterboxd. And we'd have to just watch regular foot porn. Yeah. Yeah. Again, another thing the boomers got right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He would just do cocaine and instead of writing pulp fiction just like log 3 000 movies in a

single night exactly and just say the n-word privately in his letterbox oh no quentin showed up with another letterbox jam love his reviews it's just so weird how the characters in his reviews keep using that word it doesn't doesn't really seem appropriate i'm writing this one in character y'all all right let's take a quick break and we will uh get to some news we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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And we're back. And, uh, speaking of places where big debates, uh, the, the debates over the big questions happen online. The Kelsey brothers, do this happen on their podcast

no no no okay no jason kelsey this was on fresh air yeah terry grossing him terry grossed out going back and forth terry grossed out yeah he basically this is a thing i have heard frequently from usually white men the hygiene debates yeah hygiene debates that are like i don't know yeah like i don't need to wash my hands uh right i've never washed my legs why would i wash legs? I haven't looked at my knees in 14 years. Yeah. Really? What? But yeah, the hygiene debates have popped up because of Travis. And this this one isn't about frequency or soap use or what parts of the it's about what parts actually get washed. The time honored one, because someone tweeted, they said, Jason and Kelsey look like he doesn't wash his legs or feet. And then he quote tweeted that and said, what kind of weirdo washes their feet? And that was

the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand that kicked off the online world war, so to speak. So then he retweeted a study that I guess was debunked about how not washing your feet meant that you had less active bacteria than a frequent foot washer. There was like a Twitter note that was even like clipped onto that when he posted it. And then he tweeted, quote, all of you have been fed diabolical lies. That's a reference to that Butker dude, the kicker,

who gave that commencement speech. He said diabolical lies about feminism. Anyway, that washing every crevice of your... Well, go on. He said that washing every crevice of your bodies and hair all the time is somehow better or healthier any dermatologist not in bed with big soap will agree hot spots are all that is necessary and actually leads to cleaner healthier skin and everyone's like oh what are you talking about and they're like wait so what what do you wash he He's like, obviously, they're like, if I get muddy in a game, I'm going to clean the mud off my body.

I'm not stupid. But I only need to pay attention to the hot spots, which are ass pits and balls, as he puts it. No shaft. Ass pits, balls. Never washed his hair. Just the balls. Just the balls, no shaft.

No, yeah, don't do anything else. Now, is this like a i again some people thought he was trolling other people because but you but i think the hard part to know if he's really or not is because this is such a real thing that people like pick up this mantle for this argument or like i'm fucking going into the breach with this fucking argument because other people who are like caping for him in the replies were like dude it's actually worse to be one of these people that smell like soap all the time which is said earnestly like they smell like soap gross oh my god dude this will smell like soap and shit what is going on so they smell like an irish spring get them the hell out of here yeah oh bro

i bet he cut a little piece off with a buck knife from the bar like in the commercial but like based on just this story i feel like the collar of maybe every dress shirt that jason kelsey has worn must look like he does oil changes with them um because again you got to exfoliate your shit you know i mean like stink or not your dead skin cells do build up and you know you you will have a growth any whatever like i don't give a shit what jason kelsey does but it is this one it's it's funny to see how this shit comes out and now it immediately people like you don't have to wash your legs you don't have to do that you have to wash your feet

i mean i'm not a big leg foot washer yeah Yeah. Okay. I'm a foot washer. You're a foot washer? I don't, I probably don't pay as much attention to my legs as. This is how I work. If I'm taking a quick shower, I have, and I have to go, I'm, I'm team hotspots. Yeah, hotspots. Yeah, for sure. Like, if I have to quick turnaround. But, to me, that does not, in my mind, I'm like, oh, I really bathed when I do that shit.

To me, that does not, in my mind, I'm like, oh, I really bathed when I do that shit. When I really, in my mind, I'm like, I'm cleaning up. I get that exfoliating fucking scrubber towel that the Japanese people use. And I fucking, I get that dead skin the fuck off my body all over. That's like a. I do not do that. And sometimes I will like rub my shoulder and there will be like. Pilled up dead skin. Yeah, pilled up dead skin.

Yeah, yeah. You got to exfoliate, Jason. Come on, yeah. You got to exfoliate, Jason. Come on, Jason. You got to get that scrubber. Where did you find out about the towel? Was this something that was taught to you as a youth? Yes. This is cultural.

This is cultural. In Japanese culture, right, before you get into a bathtub, you wash your body outside of the tub and get all your dead skin off because you don't want to bring all that shit into a tub where usually you keep the water clean and you get it's just for chilling it you don't get in there and start scrubbing your shit and then leaving a ring of like a ring of dead skin in the bathtub like you just submerge yourself in there so you're

taught to get all your dead skin off and then you can enjoy the thing so like if you go to like an onsen or like a hot spring in Japan, that's like a public thing. You're always, you're always told you're supposed to bathe yourself before you enter the hot spring. Cause you're not bringing a bunch of bullshit off your body into the hot spring.

So there's, there are these like sort of like scrubbing towels that we have in like Japan. And I think it's like, this isn't anything new. There's all kinds of exfoliating things that people use, but using that specifically to get all my dead skin off my arms and legs and neck and shit like that. So we did a an episode of the Cracked podcast about stereotypes about white people.

And one of them is that white people do not use washcloths in the shower. Washcloths. washcloths in the shower. Warshcloths. Warshcloths. And that's something that I actually encountered at basketball camp was somebody making fun of me for not using a washcloth and being like, so do you wash your dick by like jacking off? And I was like, kind of. Fuck!

Leave me alone! Yeah. Yeah, but they just wash it by jacking off with a towel. Right. On their horse and their ivory towel. Or is it just sort of like, yeah, it's more masculine if there's a cotton barrier between my hands. That's right. Yeah.

White American males are sent into the world of bathing the way like Soviet soldiers were sent into Star Wars. Unarmed. Unarmed. Unarmed, just like, do your best. No information. No information, no tools. Shame that we even have to do this. None of that stuff.

Just like, go out there and good luck. I don't remember a single lesson. I just remember being in a shower one day, like, I guess I soaped myself up and then just let it. And like my logic to this day that I retain is that the soapy water works its way down my torso onto my legs. And my feet are where the water, the soap is. So I'm like, I guess, I think that's enough. The soap touched it.

The soap touched it? I'm not a scrubber. That's where I think the introduction for me, intellectually speaking, you know what I mean? About the idea of dead skin was that it was not enough to have the skin wet or have the soap touch it. Is that you have to get all that dead skin off. Because shit, on my feet too, the shit builds up. Especially when I'm going sandals and shit all the time. Like I definitely notice when I'm like,

Oh, that's a lot of fucking dead skin that I need to get off. And it, plus it helps. We have everything clean. We have ash privilege. That's the thing about white people is it's, it takes like,

you don't know that you're quote unquote ashy until it gets there. Like it has to be very evident to where like, you've got like elephant knees. You know what I mean? On your like your elbows or your knees. It looks like the Bonneville salt flats. Right. It's like cracked and like, yeah.

It's not until it gets to that point that we're like, oh, I should probably address this. Yeah. That's my dirty Caucasian privilege. We have dirty Caucasian privilege. Yeah. Is there to knee pads? Is that not normal? Probably because I've been shredding the eight wheels.

Sit with volleyball. Yeah, I definitely, that's the, that's where I get my direction, the direction that I wash in as I go top to to bottom so that you know everything's getting cleaned before but i go to work on my feet because i i had hyperhidrosis throughout my life and sweaty feet that absolutely would clear out a fucking also a basketball camp would like one time cleared out an entire dorm room oh damn it was bad that sucks I remember that happened in fifth grade when we went to an astro camp. And this motherfucker cried, I remember, because we were so fucked up about his shoes smelling up the place. But he literally cleared out a dorm. Yeah.

We're like, oh, bro, this is fucked up. And he was like, I should start washing my feet. Nobody told me. Yeah. I should have washing my feet. Nobody told me. Yeah. I should have known better. Hold the soap in my hands and assume that that kind of translates. You got to, Jason. There was no time to wash our feet.

There was only time to go west. That was America. I strode through a bog on the way. That's good enough. Well, we are learning something about everyone today. Yeah, I guess so. I also think Jason Kelsey, that dude's funny. And I think he's riffing on Harrison Butker.

He's riffing on Aaron Rodgers. And he's not actually mad. He's just doing the, like, I does, is serious about not washing his legs or feet, but I think he's fake. He's pretending to be. Yeah. He's a smart, funny guy. Yeah. But what do you think? He's actually washing their feet or no? No.

No chance in hell. But this is a good opportunity to just stand on that and be like, I'm having a good time. He's like, but I ain't never washing my feet. I think he's doing that like the way when people get heated. If you're like, butter pecan ice cream is the best kind of ice cream and anyone else who disagrees.

Everyone says different is fucking stupid. Yeah, go drown yourself in the ocean and become food for the octopus. He doesn't actually mean that. It's just a funny way to have that argument. I do want to encourage everyone. You got to exfoliate that dead skin. Ex exfoliate that dead skin. Exfoliate that dead skin.

You'll be fucking, you'll be blown away when you're like, what the, oh, there's a literal three centimeters of thickness of skin. I'm actually 5'11". It's just mostly dead skin. Well, Ian, what a pleasure having you. Thanks a lot, guys. Oh, it was my pleasure. It was such a, it was so a pleasure having you. Thanks a lot, guys. Oh, it was my pleasure. It was such a, it was so fun to be here.

My wife left me. She said I was lying about my height. Yeah. Oh, shit. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Oh, hell yeah. Please buy my book or you can pre-order it now or go out and buy it when it's out, T-Shirt Swim Club. And you can listen to me on the

All Fantasy Everything podcast. You can find me at Ian Carmel all across socials. Ian, I-A-N and then Carmel with a K. K-A-R-M-E-L. And yeah, I'm going on tour with the podcast. We're doing the East Coast starting on June 11th and then the Midwest

starting on June 18th. So we're hitting a bunch of cities. Tickets available. We fantasy draft things from pop culture, so it's real fun and dumb. Come check us out. What a blast. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes! So, there were two. I tried

to find one. Let me see if my Twitter trolling has produced any results. It has not. God damn it. I saw this video and I didn't save it, but there's a fan cam. Somebody made of Luca Donchic, just like scoring easy buckets and then dancing and talking shit that I've just re I saw it like two weeks ago and I loved it so much failing that

there's this new reality series on HP on max called Ren fair, which is about the first episode came out, it's like a succession struggle in Texas's biggest renaissance fair. It's fucking nuts. The first episode is out now and like I'm hooked and I don't usually watch that kind of thing,

but it's the characters are insane. Oh, that sounds amazing. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thanks again for coming. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there work of media you've been enjoying? Let's see. Yes. Find me on where?

Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray and elsewhere. Find Jack and I on our basketball

podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties as we panic over a potential 18th championship

for the Boston Celtics. I'm calm about it. Oh, you're zen? Yeah, it's fine. I'm zen. I'm calm about it. Oh, you're zen? Yeah, it's fine. I'm actually quite zen about the whole thing. Famous quote. Well, what else? You can also find me

on the 90 Day Fiancé podcast for 20 Day Fiancé with Sophia Alexandra. Check me out on the latest episode of My Mama Told Me, the Langston Kerman, David Borg podcast where I'm talking about rainbow parties and just how groundbreaking that was. Some tweets that I like. This is one.

It's really stupid. It at weird bongs posted this thing. It's like for people who don't know, some weed packaging has become like this, super hyper graphical die-cut ziploc bag shit where it's like a ziploc bag in different kinds of shapes that can be anything from like a fucking jason mask to a cloud or in this instance the twin towers uh and this one is called the gone but not forgotten 9-11 pack it says gotta smoke that twin towers pack i don't it could be not real but based on everything i've seen about weed packaging i i wouldn't be surprised if it was real that's oh wow so anyway gone but not forgotten yeah amazing

i also had a weird bong tweet that i liked recently. It was just a picture of Sid from Toy Story. And it says, he didn't even do anything. He was literally out creating art. How the fuck was he supposed to know those motherfuckers were alive? They shouldn't be. Very good point. Justice for Sid. Justice for Sid.

Or is that his name? Sid? Yeah. If not not it should be Sid the fucking nasty the nasty little neighbor did you see

who was just creating art he got veneers he actually looks pretty cool now yeah he looks better I remember his feet I was like oh I don't know about that Sid

he got him he got hooked up yeah if that's just the choice he made that felt like the right decision for him, I think that's great. Look, Ben Affleck did it. All the greats do it.

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Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I think, you know, the sun has started to somewhat consistently emerge in L.A., which I'm really enjoying. So now I'm starting to get little summertime vibes activating in my body. Let's go out on a trip. Let's listen to some dance music you know what i mean uh this is the soul wax remix of marie davidson's track work it so you're gonna search work it soul wax remix soul wax are also too many djs uh they're also like despacio like the sounds

they do fucking everything uh but soul wax remix to It. It's a really great track, and it just feels like, you know, just some shit that you play in your car when you're driving to go get your 9-11 pack or groceries or baby food, whatever you're doing. Yeah, just bump this out of your speakers or headphones. Work It, Soul Wax Remix. Go. Go. Work It.

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