The Daily Zeitgeist - Liar! Liar? RIP Wine 1.17.20

Episode Date: January 17, 2020

In episode 551, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Kyle Ayers to discuss Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders' exchange after the Democratic debates, the classic 'I was joking about murder' defense, the DOJ clearing Hillary Clinton in Uranium investigation, an Aunt Becky update, wine consumption dropping, M. Night Shyamalan being accused of plagiarism again, and more!FOOTNOTES: Exclusive: Warren accused Sanders in tense post-debate exchange of calling her a 'liar' on national TV ROBERT HYDE SAYS HE WAS ONLY 'PLAYING' IN TEXTS ABOUT SURVEILLANCE OF MARIE YOVANOVITCH Ukraine launches criminal investigation into alleged threats against former US Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch FBI investigators visit Robert Hyde's home and office Justice Dept. winds down Clinton-related inquiry once championed by Trump. It found nothing of consequence. Things Aren't Looking Too Hot for Aunt Becky and Her Husband Americans' wine consumption dropped for the first time in 25 years The Filmmaker Who Says M. Night Shyamalan Stole Her Movie Author Says New Film Is Similar to Her Novel Author mulls lawsuit over ''The Village'' 'The Sixth Sense' Ripped Off An 'Are You Afraid of the Dark' Episode & Here's the Proof WATCH: MonoNeon - "Hot Cheetos" [Official Music Video] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, January 17, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Where Do My Hands Go Brian? That's Percy, the non-playable character, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host,

Mr. Miles Gray! Take me down to the Zach Gang City where the memes are dank and the takes are shitty. Oh, won't you please blaze me up? Take me down to the Zach Gang City where the zams is little and the scams are little. Won't you please take me home? I like that our takes are shitty and we're proud of it.

Yeah, well, you know. It rhymes, though. Yeah, it does. The takes Yeah, well, you know. It rhymes, though. Yeah, it does. The takes aren't great, you know. It's a second-rate podcast. Look, you're going to get some takes that we're going to have to apologize for later on. And that's because they're, like, incendiary or problematic. Yeah, it's just shitty.

That doesn't really make sense, man. That's a shitty take. Wait, that's from atpdthorn. So thank you for that. Guns and Royces. Royces. We're thrilled to have in our third seat. It's been way too long.

Very, very funny. Kyle Ayer. Thanks for having me. What's up, man? Welcome back. Thank you. Yeah, it has been a while. Yeah.

How you doing? You're wearing a Kansas City Chiefs hat? Just couldn't be a bigger Chiefs fan. Are you? Yeah. Really? I'm losing my mind. I've watched so many.

You ever so obsessed with something, and there's time in between when it happens, like a TV show, and you're like, have I consumed everything about this on the internet in this downtime? I need someone to make a meme. I'm sending them to friends with no concern. I'm like, look at this meme. They're like, I haven't seen Game of Thrones. I'm not following the friends with no concern. I'm like, look at this meme. They're like, I haven't seen Game of Thrones. I'm not following the NFL. Game of Mahomes.

So I'm like, oh, you really got to. How come you don't know everything I know about what I like? That's basically what my week has been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last time I really, I mean, I don't watch much football. My last memory of the Kansas City Chiefs was that one season Dante Hall kept returning. Oh, yeah, yeah. Every single fucking.

I was kind of ready to jump. I don't really love the NFL as a company or a corporation. I was like, you know what? I can kind of ease my way out as long as the Chiefs don't draft God. And then they drafted just the greatest quarterback in the world. I'm like, well, until

this child is 50, I guess I like football. I'll keep my eye on this child. I'll watch this boy throw football. Yeah. I'll keep my eye on this child. Yeah, I'll watch this boy throw ball. That was a really fun game to watch even as a non-fan. You missed. The Kansas City Chiefs were down

like 24-0. 24-0. Second quarter. Second quarter, it just looked like they were just going to get destroyed, and then they ended up like blowing them out and Mahomes just like went the fuck off it was

and he's like one of the who'd they play? Houston Houston I used to play video games against my brother who was good at them and I don't know anything

I'm it was that's what it kind of was like was if my brother was like oh wait what's happening oh you're beating me? yeah

the Chiefs won 51 to 31 and that's kind of what it felt like yeah he's really fun to watch oh, wait, what's happening? Oh, you're beating me? Yeah. The Chiefs won 51-31. Oh, I love to see it. That's kind of what it felt like. Yeah. He's really fun to watch. Also, it was a fun weekend because Aaron Rodgers kind of pulled it back together, and he's really fun to watch when he's got his touch going. That's the guy who does the belt celebration?

Yeah. I don't want to say the NFL is rigged, but we're really heading for a State Farm Insurance spokesperson Super Bowl right now. Yeah, because Patrick Mahomes and Rodgers. They just like quarterbacks. Yeah, they like quarterbacks with perfect touch. Are the Ravens still in it? No, they got smoked last weekend, like unexpectedly.

Yeah, just like manhandled. Lamar Jackson was the one thing that got my eye back on the NFL, and then I forgot about it again. Yeah, he just had a really it again. Yeah, yeah. He just had a really rough game. Okay, alright. Hate to see it. He hates to see it and he'd love to see it. Kyle,

we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Let's do it. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna analyze the Bernie audio. The Zapruder film of the last 24-hour news cycle. Audio from the Jack Black movie. Bernie Williams.

We're going to look at the Lev Parnas interview. He's throwing bombs. He doesn't give a fuck. We're going to look at just the additional information on the surveillance of the ambassador to Ukraine, Maria Yimanovich, and what the fuck was going on there. All of that, plenty more. Aunt Becky, White Claw, so much, so much. That's my nickname for Aunt Becky. White Claw?

Yeah. Like from Inspector Gadget? Yeah. Could you imagine if Dr. Claw became White Claw? Yes, Gadget. They should fuck with that. The way Popeye's co-opted Popeye. Get clobbered off the grapefruit.

But first, Kyle, we'd like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history? Was it the last thing I searched for is, who is this new Super Smash Brothers character? I just got a Nintendo Switch. I don't know. I couldn't find out. You don't know?

It just happened, and I couldn't find their name. I don't know anything about video games, but I'm trying to... They calm me down. I'm trying to play them a little bit. Okay. But the communities are so overwhelming that I don't even know where to start. It's hard to like...

Yeah. Yeah, like there's no like entry-level gaming message board. And then Nintendo sent me an email. I don't know how they got my email. And it was like, hey, we got a new character. You can download...

I only have three games. And so... And that's one of them. And they're like, we got a new character you can download. I'm like, who is this? It's Fire Emblem's By're like we got a new character you can download I'm like who is this it's Fire Emblem's Byleth I don't see

I don't know any what when the name starts or stops what franchise what didn't you understand and everyone's like I can't believe it's Embleeth

and I'm like what are you you're mad about I don't know what Embleeth is so I feel lost in video games is Star Fox still in it yeah yeah I like Star Fox I know that guy I like Peach that's who I always play in Super Smash Brothers as know what emboleth is so i feel lost in video games starfox still in it yeah yeah i like star

all right i know that guy i like peach that's who i always play in super smash brothers as because she hip checks people and it's kind of fun oh hockey fan yeah yeah yeah um so i'm trying to delve into this video game yeah it's over what are your other two games uh i have zelda and mario kart okay yeah yeah those are on the switch yeah you like the switch i do i travel a lot and it's nice on airplanes. See, I hear it every time. I think I need a crossover in the Switch world. It's pretty fun.

Okay, and that was from DJ Daniel. I think co-signing that. He's also been telling me, he's like, yeah, it's pretty cool, man. You travel? You like to play games? I'm like, yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, I put two things in my overrated.

It's hard for me to... I like prepping for this, but I... I second guess. Don't apologize. Come with the shitty takes. Thing number one, no matter how much everyone already agrees we hate it, the system of healthcare in the United States is still overrated,

even if it's the worst possible thing in the world. Number two is expensive pens. Oh. Okay. Now we're getting into the shitty takes. Yeah, because our healthcare, I'm pretty sure, is number one. Yeah. Just from personal experience recently, having to deal with an issue in my skull that is

not covered by dental because it's medical and it's not covered by medical because I'm even one of the people with insurance. I've been going through about a year of trying to narrow down an issue that I'm still in the process of, so I don't want to like it. I have no end. It's the most painful thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Oh, that's terrible. A lot of, even I'm supposed to get MRIs on my head,

and doctors forgot to send emails, and one doctor doesn't use email. They only use fax. I'm like, how does this disconnect even possibly exist? How could could there be so much money and how can i pay so much money anyway so but that's not complete the pens thing despite all that your cranial issues if i if whatever this tumor whatever is in my head kills me i need everyone to know the pens uh there are enough good low-level pens to kind of cut out all of the mid-tier pens. Right. So what's an expensive pen for you? For you.

I'm saying if you're doing one pen over $10, there's no need for this. You're not getting the worth versus what you get out of it, the input versus the output, I guess, for pen quality, ends at about 80 cents, maybe to $2. Do you do a lot of handwriting? I do a lot of handwriting. Oh, more than typing? Yeah. Oh, okay. Whenever I'm writing jokes or anything like that, I'll do handwriting.

Yeah. And generally anything that you're getting, the bulk pens, Target has whatever their brand is that you can get 40 for like $5 that work just as well as a Zebra or something like that. And any of these refillable. I don't know about whatever like Pelosi used to sign the impeachment documents or whatever, which would be very fun to see her.

She's about to sign the impeachment documents. She's like peeling open a Target packaging to try and get the pen out. And she's going, she goes, I didn't take that little gel ball off the tip, so now we're right. So do you guys see this one's actually what do you use on touch screens on the other side? Like a stylus. A stylus on the other side. She's using her iPhone to swipe around with it.

Or she's doing the thing, the ink snap came out, so like in the margins of this legal document, just getting the pen going. Yeah, there's just a scribble. Did you take the three punch circles and make them into stick figures in the margin? And she's like, just take the articles away. Does an expensive Mont Blanc, does it claim that the pen part of it is superior to other pens? I'd imagine. Or is it just like an expensive chunk of metal that then has a normal pen in it?

I have a feeling it's like a thing where it's born out of like a centuries old tradition. And like since the time of the Merovingians, they've been using Montblanc. I gotta tell you, man, Bic really has that thing down. Those things work pretty good. If they stick with it, I think they got a future.

All right, Big Bic, if you're listening. They are. I write with so many different pens. What about Paper Mate? Paper Mate's good. Everyone has these low end ones that work just as well as everything else. What about Dr. Grip? Is that too much?

That sounds – is that a fake teeth thing? No. Oh, I don't know what Dr. Grip is. I mean, I don't claim to even be an expert on this at all. That's why I have such a strong opinion on it. I love stationery. If I knew more about it, I'm sure my opinion would change. But I don't want to learn more because I like what I think.

The only time I entertain a more expensive pen is because I tend to hold the pen too tight when I write. That something with a nice grip is the only thing that I've only come into consideration when I've gone past a Paper Mate. I will do the bulk Paper Mate click with the rubber grip, and you can get 20 of those for $4. Yeah, Miles shatters those. I just lose them. He's just holding it. I mean, Miles shatters those all the time. I just lose them. He's just holding it. I mean, look at my fingers all cut up. Yeah, so I don't know.

But I lose them too. So I live in the same world with those pens that I do with sunglasses where I'm like my investment versus my I will lose this. I can't get in too deep. And I don't know if there's some sort of sunglasses worth $300, but maybe not for the month I have them. It really isn't an op. That's my over-under for every pair of sunglasses. I have them for maybe two months.

I've never worn a pair of sunglasses on two road trips. They just will disappear. They will disappear. Or like a water bottle or any of these sort of crazy Yeti, which are amazing. And it keeps it so cold that you will give yourself frostbite. Right. And then forget. Then it's just whatever coffee shop in Burbank has my Yeti. Do you go with cheap sunglasses as well? Like just go CVS discount rack?

I would say I have one pair of nice sunglasses that haven't been worn, but they were a gift. You just keep them in a glass case. You'd be hard-pressed to find me in a pair of sunglasses that don't have an ad on the side of them, if that makes sense. If it doesn't say, like, Phillips Hardware Inc. or something like that on the side of every single one.

GlaxoSmithKline. It's like, oh, you're at a medical conference? A comedy festival that's been defunct for 30 years or something. Yeah, yeah. And they're all the same, the thin plastic Wayfarer looking. Yeah, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Swimming.

Swimming. Everyone should go swimming. It's such a good exercise. It is. I know it's not exciting. It's not as flashy as cheap pens. It's not as controversial. But it's such a good exercise.

There's so many great public pools. I mean, I know this is everywhere, but there are a lot of great public pools in Los Angeles. And there are, I presume, a lot of great public pools in most places. You do a lot of lap swimming? I do a lot of lap swimming. It's really fun. I still go to an outdoor pool that's heated and it's nice. Oh, really?

And everything except the walk to the locker room is really pleasant. Jack has a theory about getting out of a pool. I do have a theory about getting out of a pool. Do you have any other theories or just this one? It's a trying moment. I'm wondering. It's a theory

I've entertained because it seems like there's more water parks on the East Coast than there is out here. I'm wondering if that's because it's colder getting out of a pool out here because the air is drier. And so the water evaporates off your skin faster. Um, this is boring.

I've, we've spent so much time talking about this in the past two days. But the moment you realized how boring it was, I was really here for that. Uh, maybe it's of the ocean. Yeah, could be that. Maybe we're close to the ocean or population density or the air outside.

You mean because at a water park, there's a lot of in and out and down time. Right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so it's not like a pool where you can spend a lot of time inside the water park. I mean, the whole thing with being out here, though, too, the ambient temperature is also so hot. The evaporation isn't going to be so – Are there water parks in Phoenix? I guess this would be what we would have to find out. Yeah, that's a good question.

Because that's not a beach area. There it is. And the hottest and the driest. We'll find out, and we will bring that information to you on the next Daily Zeitgeist, gang. You got to keep it coming back. Yeah. Something they could Google. What is a myth?

What's something people think is true you know to be false? I wrote two myths down. You'll become uninformed. This is my first myth. You'll become uninformed and you'll miss stuff if you keep yourself off of social media. I disagree with that. Yeah. I've taken some hiatuses recently.

Yeah. And I thought, I was like, I don't know anything. And I probably missed everyone being mad about what color a dress was or something, which is my most recent thing I referenced. That's dumb. Everyone got mad at that dentist for killing that lion. You missed the resurgence of that.

Are we still mad at him? You hear about this harambe? You missed the resurgence of that Jack Black movie, Bernie. It's a good movie. I take some hiatuses off of there, and I felt like I would miss everything. And not only do you not miss everything because there are other ways to consume the news, you won't miss everything because it's such an overwhelmingly cyclical news cycle now that it's impossible to not miss most of it.

Yeah. And so I took – and it's actually – I felt like it was good for me. But I know some people long – or I personally was – and still, and I'm still clinging to these things, thinking without them, I am uninformed or not involved with whether it's like my generation or my profession or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's just a – everything keeps going off of them. Right. Right. And you can still be rational and have conversations with people.

Yeah. They can't attach gifts in real life, but that's – aside from that, it's almost exactly the same. That's the thing. I can't quit that, man. I wish I could. Also, there's a lot of water parks in Arizona. There are? Oasis Water Park, Hurricane Harbor, opening March 14th.

I'm not saying there's none. I'm just saying there's – I'm just saying for the record, I can name some water parks in Arizona. Here's my question for scientists out there. Is it colder phenomenologically? Phenomenologically. My question for scientists,

is there a word called phenomenologically? Is it colder? Does it feel colder when you're in drier air to get out of a pool? But there has to be a control, right? Like this set ambient temperature. And then the only thing that you're taking, the only variable is humidity.

So you're saying if it's 90 degrees in Phoenix versus Missouri versus North Carolina. Right, yeah. Then the humidity, what's... Okay, well, I guess we'll need to find one day where all those cities

are the same temperature and get Zeitgang on IG Live. Well, good news is, all of them but Kansas City will be underwater in 20 years. Exactly. So,

the control group will be the remaining town. Are there any water parks in Kansas City? Yeah. Well, they're all, there's no Six Flags.

Sure, sure. There is a water park called Super Splash USA, which was not in Kansas City. It was in Raytown, sure. There is a water park called Super Splash USA, which was not in Kansas City. It was in Raytown, Missouri, which is a Kansas City suburb that is not safe. And you would go and rides would be closed for fights. Yeah.

Oh, like Magic Mountain. Yeah, you're picking up a Band-Aid on every ride. That's essentially what's happening. You know what I mean? You get to the bottom and there's just sort of like hair across your face that isn't yours and a bandage. And no one works there. You guys were talking about like the easiest ways to go down, water slides and things like that. And they didn't care.

They were like, do you want to go down with your friends? I'm like, yeah, I do. And at first, everyone's concussed. And you just go. It was kind of, but it closed. And when it closed, everyone's like, yeah. How is it still open? I always thought it

closed the day i left that's how run down it was i thought every day we went was the last day uh you lived every day like it was your last we did super splash usa yeah uh let's talk about that bernie audio let's talk about it uh so to to bring you up to speed, there was a Democratic debate the other night, and there was sort of a setup where Elizabeth Warren's campaign had leaked that Bernie Sanders had said to her two years ago that he didn't think a woman could win the presidency in 2020 against Trump. So the moderator asked him about that. He denied it. And then the moderator was like, okay, but Elizabeth Warren, now he's obviously lying. What did you think when he said that to you? And she had a prepared win, because I think Elizabeth Warren is good at this. But then there was what appeared to be a tense exchange at the end of the debate. And people were wondering what was said.

And then the audio has been released. Because at first they're like, oh, wait, she rejected a handshake from Bernie. And then you saw some little pointed stuff and Tom Steyer looking like a deer in headlights in the middle of it. And it was all of those things. That's a Steyr for... I'm a big Steyr... I'm not. Team Steyr. My boy got stuck in the middle again.

A boy up in... So let's just play the audio and then we can talk about it. I think you called me a liar on national TV. I think you called me a liar on national TV. Let's not do it right now. You want to have that discussion, we'll have that discussion.

You called me a liar. You told me. All right, let's not do it now. I don't want to get in the middle of it. I just want to say hi, Bernie. Yeah, good. Sorry, was that Tom Steyer or me running up on the stage to say hello to Bernie Sanders? I don't want to get in the middle of it.

Can you sign my hat? Yeah, okay, good. Okay, good. Okay, good. His dismissal. The fuck got my face, okay his dismissal got my face bro the best part of that by far i couldn't pick tom steyer out of a lineup where it was tom steyer and three people i'm related to in the lineup right um yeah it's it seemed like he was trying to maybe photobomb like a it seemed he really did seem like a fan or something. Right.

I know the way he said that. I don't want to get in the middle of anything. I just want to say hi to Bernie. Yeah. Yeah, good. Okay. Yeah, good. Okay.

Fuck out of here, billionaire. I sat through the whole show to say hi to you. Yeah. I mean, did this kind of confirmed what I think everybody assumed? In terms of what? In terms of what? In terms of like what the interaction was, what the energy was. Yeah, it was definitely, I mean, you could just tell from the facial expressions. Right.

She definitely had something to say. And at first he was caught off guard. He's like, what? He's like, you called me a liar on national television. And he was like, let's do this not in front of like cameras on national tv i think it was basically so this was she's good at this like she's good at debates she's really good on the debate stage and i think this was her you know him being like okay the debate's over and her being like no the cameras are still rolling motherfucker this is another moment for me to, like, drive this point home.

Right. And I just think, like, she came in with this leaked news story in her back pocket, and it was an absolute no-lose for her. arguing that women a woman can't win which is plainly false uh or arguing for the electability of elizabeth warren which you know that's good for her so it's like a perfectly self-contained logical win for her and then she had like a great rebuttal um and then i think this was just her further having like another interaction or like another sort of way to drive this home ready to go back and forth at the at the end. Yeah. And I think he thought it because it seemed like he was like, we're still friends. This is just a disagreement. Yeah. He's like, we'll talk about this later. Right. Anytime. And he's like, all right.

And then you could tell he was like, no, but you said you could tell that that he was also ready to – that's when he realized, like, no, no. See, this is what they want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's what's – as much as, you know, this has fractured so many people, like, so many divisions or whatever or seemingly, right, with people's takes on this. Yeah. I mean, I think at the end of the day, I think either one is moot. I mean, I think at the end of the day, I think either one is moot. Like, I think to get to really try and figure out who said what or what, because I think the focus truly has to be because the worst shit that can happen is like polarizing the progressive wing.

Right. That one becomes poisonous to the other when like the fucking corporate centrist wing of the party is the fucking absolute worst part of this whole thing. corporate centrist wing of the party is the fucking absolute worst part of this whole thing. This is what blew me away about it was it took a day for the audio to leak, even though they are professionally mic'd up on a national. So clearly it was delaying the audio leaking to turn it into three or four days of conversation, right? Because it was like, let's show this soundless clip. You could have been like, hey, sound guy, bring the levels up. Or five seconds afterwards, but CNN wanted to tear for clicks the releasing of it, which makes me, you know, in my head, that is them wanting this infighting to happen. Oh, absolutely.

Because if they can drag this out a little longer. Well, that's why the whole, the way the debate was even ran, it was just done like, and Bernie, like, you called Elizabeth a bitch, right? Right. Right? Yeah. Which is time for my boy Steyer to slide in here. I just want to say hi to Bernie. By far the best part of this whole thing.

The only takeaway I have is Tom Steyer is a hero. I picture him answering a question like, isn't it crazy we're all on TV? That's pretty cool, right? Last week I was watching the Kennedy-Nixon debate for the first time. Yeah, there was some stat I heard recently that

for every campaign ad that all the other candidates have shown in one of the early primary voting states, he's shown like a thousand. The stat is for every grain

of sand on earth, there are three more Styrads, I think the stat is for every grain of sand on earth, there are three more Styrads. I think this is why, I mean, I feel a little bit in a bubble with my internet, right? The fact that Styr is still in a debate, but Andrew Yang is not, makes me realize the whole country

is not the bubble of my internet. Andrew Yang is a third of my internet. You know what I mean? At least it's like what's overwhelmingly responsive in a literal sense, responding, are like Yang people. But the fact that he doesn't poll nationally well enough for the stage. It shows you how much that money can do.

Versus Steyer, who I have never seen a thing about from anyone I know personally. But nationally, he can be so overwhelming with ads. It's just name recognition at that point. You're like, I think I seen that guy. Yeah. And he also like,

as he was doing this whole, like he was pushing for impeachment before people thought that was a viable thing for Trump. And just like sort of using that as a way to get people online to give him their information. Like years ago, early on in the trump administration he like i remember reading an article about him a couple like a maybe a year and a half ago where they were like this dude is like really well positioned to do something politically whatever

he decides to do building a network because he was building a huge like essentially facebook network of people who are like motivated to beat trump and he decided to use it to run for president so same yeah i got an email list serve like 74 people on mailchimp i'm about to mobilize to mailchimp uh all right we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified.

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Yeah. Yeah, he was on Mad Al. He was on Anderson. Anderson Cooper. He gave an interview at the New York Times. This guy has been wanting to talk to somebody. Right. And now he had a pretty good explanation for like why.

Yeah. So he goes on Maddow and I mean, my God, he basically the gist of the interview was everything you suspected about what was going on with this whole Ukraine extortion scheme with the president and Zelensky is true, basically. Right. He was saying, first of all, Trump knew everything. He knew what I was doing. He didn't like he signed off on everything I did. He knew everything. Mike Pence also knew everything when he said like the whole reason he canceled his trip to Zelensky's inauguration, which was a point that people talk about that Pence was doing that to like, you know, sort of like put more pressure on the Ukrainians. Pence did that to precisely put more pressure on them. Trump had also allegedly, this is all according to him, that he had threatened the Ukrainians with like total cancellation of all aid, any kind of aid in connection to the U.S., not just this military aid.

He's like any diplomatic stuff, any like diplomatic invites, the shit's done. And then another thing was that Trump was also seeking information that would damage the Mueller team. So there's this guy, Dmitry Firtash, who is this guy who is facing like extradition to the United States. There's been mumbles about how he was saying, I'm willing to help you out with the Ukraine stuff and other things if you can just keep me from being extradited to the United States. And that's where William Barr comes in, apparently knew about this.

And this whole thing was, apparently Firtash had information about one of the members on Mueller's team that would have been damaging, according to him. And Trump was seeking that out. Also, John Bolton knows everything that happened. So if you want to call him up, he can't act ignorant because he knows everything. Obviously, he was trying to distance himself, but he knew what was going on step by step. So they were ready to extort or blackmail people on Mueller's team. And this is like Barr is part of this whole thing. Well, not extort or blackmail people on Mueller's team. And this is like, like Barr is part of this whole thing.

Well, not extort. They would just be like, leak this story. And then be like, how can you trust these guys? This guy's been talking with other unsavory characters. They wanted some kind of piece. Information warfare against Mueller.

Cast aspersions. Where Mueller is supposed to be working for them. Exactly. Right. Yeah. And then, you know, I think it should be said that all the stuff that he's saying, I mean, you have to treat Lev Parnas as not a reliable witness. Of course.

Because he's, A, not just associated with Rudy Giuliani, which is enough. But, you know, we've seen the dirty. America's mayor. Yeah, right. But I think. Oh, we have so much to catch you up on. I've been offline a little bit. Is he still America's mayor

but the thing is the documents that he provided those definitely seem to indicate a degree of truth to some of the things he's saying

so I mean yeah I don't take everything as gospel but the things in the documents and what we've already seen in terms of like the house intel investigation

things like that I'm like yeah this all everyone was suspecting this. Right. If it's someone like that who you can't necessarily trust what's coming, if they're just re in reinforcing stuff that is taken as fact from 15 other places or whatever, then you can, everything starts to line up.

Yeah. Well, even if everything, most of the stuff this guy says is complete trash, I can't trust him. Yeah. He's just re corroborating all the stuff that we are. Carabas. Yeah. He's re Carabas. When, he's re-Carabas.

When you're there, you're not family. When you're there, you're adopted, which was kind of a crazy phrase they tried to get off the ground. Is it Italian food? Yeah. Carabas? I don't know. It sounds like a weird name. I thought it could be fusion, but I always know

I hear the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carabas. Anyway, if you work at Carabas, call in. Yeah. It's not as straightforward as pasta factory. No, you mean the old spaghetti factory? The spaghetti factory. That's right. Which sounds like a weird euphemism, but-

God, for what? I don't know, bro. Yeah, the old spaghetti factory. Yeah. It does sound kind of like- Pointing generally to your ass. Well, I think it maybe reminds me, because tim and eric would i say spaghetti house was a thing okay i don't know uh so he's saying bolton knows everything yeah so he should be called as a witness right i mean that's

the thing like if he's saying bolton knows everything bolton under oath would probably tell the truth like he doesn't really seem to have a like. Yeah. I mean, he has allegiance to the Trump. I mean, now that the Iran stuff isn't as I mean, it's still very much an issue, but not like where he was getting like wacky boners looking at the news. Right. I don't know.

I mean, I don't know how to. That's pasta factory. Yeah. Wacky boner. I don't know exactly what his motivations are. I just know he wants to sell a book. Right. As much as I want to think he's going to go up there and do the right thing,

I don't know because he's still who he is, and I don't trust him. Yeah. No, I don't either. But he is a lawyer. I don't know. You'd think he wouldn't lie under. And I don't trust him. Yeah. No, I don't either. But he is a lawyer. I don't know. You'd think he wouldn't lie under oath. They're all fucking crooks. There's just been such a run for these years of nothing ever actually going in the way legally or emotionally you thought it would.

Or morally. Right. So at this point, I am so pessimistic. Yeah, you're shit. Everything lines up to where if this one person is a human tomorrow. It could all work. It could all work. And then the next day, you're like, ah, lizard again?

Yeah. Susan Collins is like, I don't know. Maybe I'll vote against it. Bye. It makes you feel insane almost with the repetitiveness of the entire thing. Yeah, because you can start to see the pressure building and go, all right. This is the one. If you two, the entire thing. Yeah, because you can start to see the pressure building and go, all right. This is the one. If you two find your fucking backbone, you can make something.

You can cause some real fucking problems for this administration. And then it's just like. Yeah. And then I'm fighting with people about audio. Do you think it'll ever go back to not being that? I remember the old days where hours would go by and I wouldn't know what the president was doing. Right, yeah.

Hours, if not even a day. They'd be like, oh, you know the president's in London? I'd be like, that's nice. Yeah, that's cool. What's the weather like? Are there water parks? Are you wet? When you get out?

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If you get two people to build water parks You'll pay for yourself in this one So the thing that we talked about On yesterday's episode About the surveillance Of Ambassador Yovanovitch, that seemed to be the one thing that he was sort of throwing water on. But it might be because he doesn't want to be incriminated and like some straight up crime. Yeah, that's, you know, the other stuff. It's like, well, what was I was doing weird stuff on behalf of the president. But a thing where you're in a conspiracy to possibly cause harm to an ambassador, that's international crime.

Is that not good? You're not allowed to do that? From what I understand, it's a no-no. Okay. Cite your sources. Breitbart, I think. But that guy, Robert Hyde, he went on TV, but he went on Sinclair TV, so just a far right-wing echo chamber. Right.

And just basically his whole thing was he was just denying that what he sent to Lev Parnas was real. He just called it – they were just colorful texts and said he's just, quote, a little landscaper from fucking Connecticut when he was pressed on whether he had spied on the ambassador at the time. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I mean, that just sounds like... I'm a widow landscaper from Connecticut. Did you do it? Here's a job I had. It's not even the answer to a lot of questions.

But I'm little. From fucking Connecticut. How could he spy? He can't see over hedges. Oh, he's a landscaper. He cut them lower, didn't he? Cut through the bullshit. But then he also sort of went on he also said i was never a close associate of lev parnis i don't know him i just barely knew the guy and then he says quote you meet up this is what robert hyde said you meet a bunch of these characters when you're out there

in the fundraising and events and supporting candidates we just had some colorful texts had a few pops way back when I used to drink. And it's kind of unfortunate that the left ought to get their panties in a bunch. I don't know. Way back when I used to drink. Because that is the thing that keeps coming up about him, that he was an alcoholic or something.

Is he... I feel like I've heard this before. He was kicked out of, I think, Doral or Mar-a-Lago. He was so drunk and was screaming that the Secret Service were going to put a hit on him. Uh-huh. They had, like, the police had to be like, Sir, we've been asked to remove you from the property. Right, which you know.

Because he got in... Lev Parnas claimed that this guy Robert Hyde and Greg Pence, which is Mike Pence's brother, got in some kind of disagreement or something. And that fueled this weird paranoid thing about how he thought the Secret Service was going to get him. I just feel like when you have to upkeep so many lies all the time, that eventually – and then so think about Mar-a-Lago is like everyone there is living 50 lies simultaneously. These can't all line up in whatever timelines they've invented or behaviors they've invented. So it's got to be just chaos of these people with their stories not matching up.

And then they all hate each other. But they all have to put up this facade where they don't hate each other. So it's just on the edge of screaming matches for what little power they pretend to have all the time. I would still love to go, though. It seems beautiful. Good water parks in Florida. And you barely get cold when you get out. I know. that's the thing

i could totally see if trump like sweeps to power the way i expect him to uh you know after in 2020 2028 and moves the uh white house to mar-a-lago i could totally see him like opening a an amusement like a water park oh for sure it'll be a sick airbnb yeah the hottest uh right you want to sleep in the situation room i think it's a uh interesting thought i'm having is that the third story to talk about is the conspiracy to assassinate an ambassador mm-hmm yeah like this kind of bit that's what's the most just got buried under two friends disagreeing on stage the other day. Right.

Yeah. Well, exactly. And I think because at the end of the day, the really wealthy people who have their hands all over the media and things like that, they stand to lose more with one of these people. Yeah. Right. Being the candidate. This would be nine George Clooney movies if this ambassador assassination plot happened

in 1960. Right. He would have played, he would, this would have been, i'm pretty sure this is some movie already right um yeah but i mean we're talking about one possible solution the 2020 election we're talking about another possible solution is you know the impeachment and then we're talking about the thing that people already know is in existence and the fact that it's just way worse than uh i guess not we we all kind of suspected this but but yeah it might be it's just so chilling enterprise it's just chilling to hear that a united states ambassador was facing threats from citizens of their own

country right you know like oh yeah it's one thing when you're like you might be in russia and they're like i don't know man like these these foreign these foreign these Russian people that are you working with? They might not be chill versus being somewhere like these American scumbags are like plotting something against you. And now the Ukrainians have announced an investigation, but not the kind that Donald Trump wanted. They said that they are looking into whether or not – Exactly. And using a control on one day when the temperatures are a consistent level. Is it chillier when you get out of a pool when it's humid?

We laugh, but someone's going to know. Yeah. Still haven't heard the explanation. But yeah, the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs just announced that they said the policy of the country is not to interfere in domestic affairs, obviously. But because of this new evidence suggests that either Ukrainian or international law may have been like violated. They're going to look into it. They say, however, the published records contain the fact of possible violation of the legislation of Ukraine and the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which protects the rights of a diplomat in the territory of another country. The ministry said, determining whether alleged surveillance of Yovanovitch

violated Ukrainian or international law, quote, or was it just bravado and fake in an informal conversation between two U.S. citizens. Boys will be boys. Yeah. Yeah. That is the thing you have to always keep in mind with the mobster types is so many, I think 95% of mafiosa-seeming guys are just faking it. Yeah, it's just bluster the whole time.

It's just guys who saw a bunch of mafia movies. Yeah, I've been watching, I don't want to just start talking about TV shows, Righteous Gemstones is a show that I started watching. There's a whole episode where they are all just pretending these weird emails they sent were fake because they're men or whatever. And then he gets in a car chase and he's attempting to run a car off the road by just saying it's a friend he does car pranks with. And it's so funny. He's like, no, honey, it's just a friend I do car pranks with. And then he flips a van.

And all I'm thinking about while you're saying this is like, no, this is my boy. We do the funny thing where we pretend we're going to get him killed with our boy. It's my friend I do murder pranks with. Yeah, that's right. That is a perfect, yet another way that was a perfect encapsulation of the moment. They are Danny McBride characters. Notoriously who you wantBride characters. Yes. Notoriously who you want running democracies.

Yes. Oh, man. But then on top of that, the FBI actually had also paid Mr. Hyde a visit because I think it was on Thursday morning. They're like, knock, knock. Can we talk? Yeah. Doesn't even have a doorbell what the fuck were you doing yeah get a ring although that did aaron hernandez in maybe don't get a ring

don't get a super bowl ring either reference that's my time uh and then just kind of the something that happened last week that kind of dovetails with this is that the investigation into hillary's selling of uranium or that conspiracy that uranium one uh finally was done the bell dinged and uh they didn't find anything. What? Yeah. But I saw this meme. Right. She had fucking flames coming out of her eyes.

The guy's picture was Ronald Reagan having sex with an eagle, and you're going to tell me he was lying to me? Yes. Yeah, he was. No, they had a U.S. attorney basically look into it, because Louie Gohmert at the time was like, you need to look into this! This was in 2017 yeah this just started 2017 and they just came back and it was just sort of like there is really i can't say there's anything to look at here yeah and see

this is the difference right because when donald trump and his cronies all talk about well the whole ukraine thing was about looking into corruption and possibly the Bidens being involved in corruption. What you would do is you'd have an actual investigation. Right. Rather than being like, hey, Rudy, with your upside down AirPods, can you put a ragtag team of scumbags together and go fuck around in Europe and see if we can dig up? Like, that's just like that. And it's the difference.

And I think because when you go this route where you have like, I mean, I think it's a legitimate investigation based on the outcome. I presume it is that they're not because they're not finding the crap dirt that you need. They're like, fuck, fuck the DOJ. Just Rudy, make something up. Yeah. the the whole barisma biden thing was trump's attempt to manufacture that sort of what like the vague hillary clinton conspiracies her emails uranium one like something that he could just say about his opponent in the 2020 election with the added ambiguity of right he needs like a benghazi catchphrase right right yeah Yeah, I mean, can you imagine the Pizzagate conspiracy theories

that would come out of a bunch of Ukrainian records and emails sent through Google Translate? Some sort of pocketed food probably there. Yeah, pizza. But yeah, so he's... Because nothing matters anymore, Russian intelligence just hacked Burisma. I'm sure we can wait to hear what comes out of those hacked Burisma servers. I wish every time someone got hacked like this, we got to see how terrible their passwords were.

Right. That's all I want to know is how it's one, two, three. What was the password though? You didn't even capitalize the P? Yikes. I mean, but these are the things, the stories that get

a lot of coverage. One thing that really got glossed over was all these other Stephen Miller emails too that were leaked where he was actually talking about

shipping out asylum seekers on trains to make an example and scare the fuck out of people on some Holocaust shit. Yeah.

Like really? Yeah. And again, but these are the, I don't know, man, it's so hard because there are so many simultaneously fucked up evil things happening.

Yeah. Uh, you, you, I mean, how do you keep all these plates? I wonder particularly with you guys who do this most days, right?

Like a, a deeper, more specific dive than most people do. Right. I'm, I don't just, I don't, I kind of skim, I'll, I'll read an article if it interests me, but I do have the idea – I'm overwhelmed all the time.

Do you guys feel any optimism going through this every day? Do you feel – does it make you feel more optimistic or more in control or does it get overwhelming after a while? This year in particular has started to feel somewhat uh overwhelming we'll see what happens with the how much of a sham the impeachment trial is i think that's gonna really be i have nothing's real anymore i mean i'm totally you know i have to fight my nihilism every day this is all to cover the fact that mitch mcconnell can't write if he was gonna do but i just because I just, because you guys, everything that you present on this show is still just the top of what you look through

and pick and choose. So you're getting deep enough to where you're seeing things that aren't even... I have to read deep enough so I can at least be as conversational about it. Because I think that's the only way to understand is to know as much. And I think I do find comfort in knowing as much as possible because then I can feel like, okay, I got my eye on stuff like what the fuck's going on i'm

not gonna just get caught off guard here but you know i'm sure we will get caught off guard at some point just talking about how trump operates just kind of smash and grab and wanting to be a model for how he would ideally rule as put, and Putin just had his entire, the only people who were a challenge to his power, the prime minister and his entire cabinet, just he had them resign. They're like, what, we are? He's like, yeah.

They must be accepting our position somewhere further north. So, I mean, that's, you know, that's, I that's I think what he's going for and I feel like when you ask about like optimism versus pessimism I still feel like the zeitgeist isn't

fully like the mainstream media's analysis of this is still too caught up in the like prism of like how we viewed things before and it's like of this is still too It's jokey almost. Caught up in the like prism of like how we viewed things before and it's like this

he's telling us who he is. He wants to be a forever king. Once a week or once every two weeks you hear him praising the longevity of whether it's like a Chinese president or Putin being able to extend his terms further and he's like we could do something like he jokes at first you know at a rally we could do something like that. He jokes at first, you know, at a rally,

we could do something like that here. Wouldn't that be great? And you're just like, well. But I mean, all the other jokes have a year later become law or something like that. Yeah. But like the way he's operating around the 2020 election we're now seeing is basically straight up

Putin style criminal shit where he like puts a tail on somebody who's getting in his way and he's just acting illegally to try and maintain power. And I have no reason to believe that he wouldn't do that again in 2024 somehow. Or just, I mean, God, just 2020, man.

I'm bracing myself for the kinds of fucking bullshit, trickery, and cheating that goes down. Yeah. I just, I don't think it's going to be. There'll be 104 votes in the state of Florida. We just had to toss a few out. They all came from one building. Yeah.

Suspicious. Yeah. There's no way an election result that has him losing is going to go down with him, like calling and conceding the night of the election. I don't see him standing up on a stage like Barack did and watching an inauguration of another person. Yeah, no, that's,

I mean, Michael Cohen told us, you know, like, he's like, yeah, I spent a lot of time being his like behind the scenes bag man like i i get it i'm not the most trustworthy person in the world but uh you he's not leaving

the white house like unless it's like in a body bag basically that's basically that right didn't you say like you're either gonna have to take him out by force? He's not going to go quietly. Well, yeah, because look at all the legal jeopardy he's in outside of being president. Because basically, outside the White House is lava. Yeah. So I'm never leaving. Everything's lava. I wish.

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So last time their argument sounded like it was going to be something like, look, we gave this guy $500,000 because we thought he was a consultant who just gets our kid into college. We didn't know it was going to bribes. I never sent any money. Like, what are you talking about? I ain't doing anything crazy. Yeah. So they paid a half million dollars

to get their two daughters in. And they have not, they've been very adamant. They are not pleading guilty. They're not taking any kind of plea deal. They are going to fight the case. They want to be proven innocent. Everyone else is like,

that is the dumbest fucking idea ever. But they seem intent on going with this strategy. So now there's some more evidence that has come out that looks like it's going to make their situation a lot harder. Their other daughter, who is the one who is not Olivia Jade, the famous one, Isabella Rose. It sounds like there was a moment where that daughter could have got in legitimately and he passed on that opportunity. So there's emails dated on September 27th where USC administrator offered to flag her application to Mossimo. It's like, hey, we could flag the application.

the application. And that's like, as the prosecutors say, it's a, like a legitimate approach because at universities, what they'll do is they'll be like, Hey, we'll basically solicit donations and be like, and,

and you know, that could help a good effect on your kid getting in. Right. Sort of like the, the, the gist of what was going on. Mossimo had replied of just sort of like, yeah,

I think we're good. He's like, I think we're squared away. And basically saying, now I don't, I don't, we're not going to go this path. Right. And so what makes it a little bit interesting is because a few days before Mossimo sent that email saying like, we're good on doing it the normal, but still wacky way. He got an email from the guy, Rick Singer, who is the mastermind of all these kids getting into colleges, basically saying that quote, a fake profile portraying their older daughter as a crew recruit was in the process of being made. So hearing that he was like, Oh, I don't need to do

it like this because the guy I paid is already got my fake recruiter bio being made up. So I don't need this other version where I give USC money to get my daughter in. I'm going to do it by paying Rick Singer. And that's the prosecution is saying they knew it was corrupt because they even turned down what is seemingly a legitimate offer. So it would have been a legitimate donation to get her application flag. Exactly. Got it.

Okay. Yep. So it's not like, hey, your daughter's smart and we want to flag her. They're just saying, hey, dude, you want to pay? You want to pay? Essentially like, hey and we want to flag her they're just saying hey dude you want to pay you want to pay essentially like hey you want to pay more you want to you want to pay some more get your daughter really in here right and he was like nah he's like nah we're squared away got it and then and then followed up by saying it's the nicest i've been at blowing somebody off he said that yeah cool didn't sound super nice yeah i know it's like a threat it's like yeah and that's

the nicest i've been you don't want to see me blow something off not the hard way it's like a mean girl line yeah the nice way of blowing someone off is just to not respond and then acknowledge you've blown them off yeah uh all right so i mean i mean look tiktok we'll see what happens uh but i again i'm i have no faith in the legal system, so I'm sure they'll get, what, maybe 12 days. In one of those fun jails that's mostly a golf course. Right. Golfing with Enron guy. Yeah, I think that jail is actually, you're just a caddy at a bigger golf course, and that's prison.

Right. Jail was worse. That was's prison. Right. Jail was worst. I was the help. Yeah. I had tee times at 8 a.m. T-E-A? No. White Claw has overtaken wine.

Possibly. This is the only way to look at this, according to me. This still sounds like we're talking about that trial. Yeah. White Claw is over. White Claw v. Wine. White Claw is over. White Claw v. Wine. Yes. The landmark case. So, I mean, this seems impossible to me, but. Well, not that it's overtaken, right? That it has by, it is, White Claw has disrupted fully the alcohol industry.

I love disrupting. We love disruptors. We really do. Because like wine consumption dropped for the first time in 25 years. And they're like, what the fuck happened? And when they look at it as all the material they have and data they have shows that more people are drinking spirits and the ready to drink cocktails like hard seltzers. Yeah, but how much better is sideways if Paul Giamatti shotguns a claw instead of pouring the vat over his head? I mean, wait till you... I mean, I'm sure there's going to be the spiritual sequel to Sideways.

From the bottom up. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so, you know, I don't know. I definitely see more people drinking seltzers than anything. A lot. I started seeing them...

You see them at bars, which I never thought would ever happen. Yeah, right, right, right. It's just they're down in their little refrigerator of beers I can't read. Right. And they're just sort of

down there with those. What do you got down there? Even like my extended family, cousins and aunts and uncles who are beer, huge beer drinkers, I mean, from Iowa,

like, you know, some of them are starting to move over and drink these things because they're like, oh, I don't want to get so mad the next day. I'm not hungover.

It's like easier. I can drink more. Yeah. Less calories. I mean, so it's weird because they say a lot of the reason, too, is because more people are becoming health conscious in terms of like how they're drinking. So the pre-made seltzer, hard seltzer, is like people are just gravitating towards that. Is pre-made hard seltzer just seltzer with vodka? Is that basically what it is? I'm sure it's just some malt.

I don't know if it's vodka, but yeah. Some of them that you see are the vodka sodas or the weird little cocktails that they put in, but I think some of them are just the malt beverage. Got it. And then, yeah, you can tell it's like they're it's gonna explode like

everywhere because Bud Light has their seltzer now. Yeah. Bud Light seltzer. I like the idea that you're like, if you're more loyal to Bud Light than anything else in your life. Hey, give it to this one then, please. I love drinking Bud Light. I don't like beer.

I'm not taking these shirts back. Right. Dude, I'm dilly dillying all fucking day, bro. I love the dilly dilly of it all. Oh, man. That's kind of my catchphrase with my bros. I cannot turn back on dilly dilly. You think I'm covering up this tattoo?

No, I'm drinking the seltzers. Showing up to a party with a thing of Bud Light seltzers and being like, dilly dilly, guys. There he is. There he is. Dilly buns. That would be D-I-L-L-I-E, I think, with a seltzer. A little fancier. Yeah. Dillier. That would be D-I-L-L-I-E, I think, with a cell tone a little fancier. Yeah.

Dillier. Dillier, Dillier. Okay. So there's a M. Night Shyamalan show on Apple that is now being accused of plagiarism. It's nice to see someone read my emails. So claims of plagiarism have kind of nice to see someone read my emails. So, claims of plagiarism have kind of followed him around. Yeah. It's

usually from young adult fiction or like, Are You Afraid of the Dark? Got it. Sixth Sense was basically the plot was taken from an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark? And The Village was taken from a young adult novel that, like, it wasn't even an obscure one. It was like, had sold millions and millions of copies. Yeah, it. And The Village was taken from a young adult novel that,

like it wasn't even an obscure one. It was like, it had sold millions and millions of copies. Yeah, it's called The Village, I think. Yeah. It's called Running Out of Time. I like how egregious it is. Yeah, yeah.

And it was based on a movie I saw. Right. But now there is a filmmaker, Francesca Gregorini, who is suing Apple, claiming the show is a ripoff of her 2013 movie, The Truth About Emmanuel. So the premise of both is that a mother who can't conceive creates like a very dependent. No, they lose a child.

Oh, they lose a child. Yeah. Okay. And then they get like a lifelike doll as like a therapy tool. Thing. But then they become like sort of overly eerily connected to it. And then there's a super producer, Anna Hosnia, actually has that streaming service. And she has watched the M. Night Shyamalan show.

Five times you were saying? That is being accused of plagiarism. Five times you kept saying off mic and then you said you would deny when you got on so anna what what is the what is the uh oh my god what's the premise of the um i would i would like to clarify i also got apple tv free for a year when i bought a new apple i mean no apple plus tv free when i got the new apple TV. So please, don't. Super easy to differentiate between what they got going on these days. Okay. So the show is about, so this woman, I won't say any spoilers. Obviously, I'll try and go around it.

But like this woman has a baby. The baby passes away somehow. And then I guess she goes catatonic. So they have this like new agey kind of like, you know, doctor be like, well, give her. Yeah. Goop comes in. It's really funny. Goop is in it.

And Goop is in it. And they her ideas give her a fake like real baby. Like it's like one of those very, very realistic baby dolls from American Sniper. This is a real yeah same actor yeah yeah they got the same guild this is a actual horrifying thing that happens like there are people who use and she can't because she's catatonic but acting completely normal going about her daily life going to work like no big deal thinks this baby is real so she hires a nanny for it and the husband is also he's fully aware everything's he's conscious he knows what's going on he's just acting along and the nanny shows up

and the nanny also acts as if the baby is real and then, and this all happens in the first episode, so not really a spoiler, baby comes to life. No explanation. And that's like the season beginning? Yes. And that's how it goes. And this show fucking doesn't tell you anything.

We're eight episodes in. I know nothing. It's infuriating. I keep picturing the baby turning and doing a testimonial to the camera, like Malcolm in the middle. I wish. It's crazy in here, I wish. Like where's Zach Morris? It's crazy in here.

I wish. Time out. Freeze. But like you don't know anything. It's like, okay, you're just going to – what are we watching? That's this. So it's a Shyamalan. It's a Shyamalan that doesn't tell you –

You've been Shyamalan'd. The baby in the water. It's M. Night – what was it you say? M. Night Chalamet. M. Night Timothy Chalamet. M. Night Chalamet. And I can't – it's almost unnecessary at this point. Like, it's like, okay, well, if you're not going to reveal a plot point at any point

that kind of explains what's going on, this show is useless. And then I went online to be like, is anything ever going to come of this? And they're like, no, you have to watch all six seasons when they, I don't know, come out or the show will probably get canceled eventually. But yeah, so he's just not going to tell you anything until the final episode of the sixth season, I guess. Well, it sounds like you should watch this movie, The Truth About Emmanuel.

Yeah, I guess I'm just going to watch that. It's a self-contained movie. I'm going to watch that. It sounds like it's where they got the idea. So in that movie, it's a mother who's grieving the death of her baby, uses an eerily lifelike reborn doll to help her process the loss and subsequently forms an intimate relationship with the nanny she hires to take care of the quote infant um bold move to be like that terrible tv show stole mine idea

right this is the show i wrote the show no one likes first yeah um so yeah i I don't know. This seems to keep happening to him. It's not like it was. I think he's a bad person and a liar. Okay. Remember he said he ghost wrote She's All That, and everyone was like, no, you didn't. Well, he had worked on a revision or something. He technically had, but it was a stretch for him to say

that he had actually penned it. Plus, what's that M short for? Right. It could be anything. Manipulation. Manipulation night. Manipulation night. His next movie, Manipulation Night.

But it's not like the movie is like some random YouTube movie. It's like real people in it, right? Yeah, it's got Jessica Biel. Except that baby. Yeah. Right. Kaya Scodelario from Skins is on it alfred molina oh uh great favorite uh friend to this friend of the network friend of the network alfred molina yep

but anyways uh people should check out that movie if they're interested in the show i'll watch the show see if i want to check out the movie it's just the guy who doesn't get it at all. Yeah, the show sounds pretty good. The show seemed longer. It's not worth it, in my opinion. There's no... I just was... I mean, I don't think there was one single offering from Apple TV Plus when I was like, yeah, I want that.

I want that. Morning shows only worth it until you get to the finale. And that's it. Right. Right. Oh, and Truth Be Told is about a true crime podcaster. Yeah. Is that an Apple show? I don't recommend it either.

All these vast amounts of shows being put out just to fill out new streaming services sound fake and rushed. Right. Every single one of them. This is about a shoe. All right, hear me out. We have Leo attached to the shoe. It's his shoe. It's lost its laces.

And it got new laces. This is a rushed mockumentary of what's popular. Was there something named Rushed mockumentary of what's popular. My favorite genre. Was there another thing called something plus before Apple and Disney both came out on the same? Oh, Hulu plus.

Okay, I got it. Wait. No, I don't think there's a third. Yeah, that's the ad-free Hulu. There was a Hulu. Yeah, there's Hulu and there's Hulu plus. Oh, I have Hulu plus. I have Hulu plus.

That doesn't exist, does it? Oh, wait, I own it. I have that. I didn't know it was called plus. I just thought you just were like- Everyone calls it Hulu, but when they try and get you to pay, they're like, well, you can get this other one. Yeah, with no ads. No ads.

And you can't go back. Oh, I see. I mean, I... Remember, my prediction for this year was that Apple Plus would fold in on itself because it's horrible.

In one year? I don't think it'll happen this year. I had so many... I worked at Apple for a while and I genuinely thought the only way they could succeed, the only way

Amazon succeeded coming in is that we don't even care about their streaming service. It's just a thing attached to a thing we all need at this point. And then Hulu kind of carved out persevering by having TV before Netflix did. Netflix is too big. Disney is the behemoth so they won't fail. Anyone else needs

Apple should have just been 10 bucks a month, you get iCloud, you 10 bucks a month you get icloud you get apple music and you get the tv plus and it's all because we're all paying for the icloud a dollar or whatever yeah and everyone would start using apple music if it was included for they they could take a loss right and get everyone in right but they don't want to do that and that's what was crazy to me i'm like yeah and then make rentals cheaper or something all these weird pay things just combine it all into one thing eight bucks bucks a month, you get 50 gigs iCloud, you get the music,

and you get the Apple TV+. And then fucking, once everyone's, sorry, once everyone's in, then you can start, you can Walmart stuff if you're some giant company.

You know what I mean? Come in at a low cost and ruin everyone's life. Yeah. But the fact they didn't do it all as one thing that you just do on your phone. I'm not gonna have

four Apple subscriptions. Yeah. They could have combined all of them. You're channeling Steve Jobs right now. I know. i know god it just made would have made so much more sense growing on your face thank you i don't have to talk to my daughter someone rub a fruit on me i need this tumor to go away the um the they've never been great with software. Like they create good hardware,

but like, I mean, from the start, iTunes is a fucking disaster. No, the visualizer, come on. I did like it, but they've always been pretty good at making sure on their stuff, the software worked great. Yeah, like Final Cut Pro was good

until X came out. But I agree that it's just like- I liked Logic. The fragmentation is what people don't want to buy into. It doesn't all... Once Apple does what I said, I hope they won't pay me when I work there.

They're not going to pay me for an idea they steal. Let's put that flag down now. In the event that they do, we can come back to this. If you guys want to get on KyleTV+, my new... It's just such a good point that they are very focused on user experience and very simplifying things on the hardware side. But then everything's fragmented and so confusing on the software side. That's why I'm like, eight bucks a month, they could have.

They can take a loss. That's what they should do. They have a frigging bank overseas with more money in it than any country has. Right. Take a loss to get everyone to buy. And then you steal from Spotify, which has to be their biggest competitor for that. Right. Nah. Yeah. Kyle. I don't know. to get everyone to buy and then then you steal from Spotify which has to be their biggest competitor for that Brett yeah yeah Kyle if there's one thing you know about me it's I'm a big money it's been a pleasure having you man thanks where can people find you follow you hear you I'm basically at Kyle Ayers across it

all yeah so Twitter and Instagram and that sort of stuff uh i'm on there is there a tweet you've been enjoying oh yeah uh once again i brought two one of them is funny and will apply to what we were just talking about and it's from julia claire oh julia tweets she comedian in brooklyn and said i'm not failing i'm just disrupting the success industry hell yeah disruptors and another one was from chris stevens who's at chris stevens md um who's a comedian here in los angeles says i understand that people have concerns about bernie's age but as a jewish man myself let me just say that we reached the peak of our power in our late 70s my grandpa once accidentally spilled gasoline all over himself filling up

his car and we still went out to dinner uh miles where can people find you Twitter Instagram at miles of gray also my other podcast for 20 day fiance and also on stage you know we got live shows coming up so and tickets are you know there's a little bit of tickets left for the San Francisco show on January 25th at the Gateway Theater as part of Sketch Fest so soon you can get

those tickets at SF Sketch Fest's website and also I mean look we're hitting Portland, okay? We're hitting D.C., Brooklyn, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Chicago, Toronto, and others to be announced soon. So please get your tickets. We'll have some links available on our website in the coming days. A tweet I like is from at BrickPobeJoy. Okay. BrickPobeJoy. Yeah, BrickPobeJoy. is from at brick pobe joy okay brick pobe joy yeah brooke pobe joy uh and it says i miss when computers had a big fat ass that's so good um uh clean slate uh at please be good nice uh Clean Slate at Please Be Good Nice

tweeted saying let me show you how it's done arrogant condescending vibe killer saying this is how we do it it's Friday night and I feel alright the party's here on the west side so I reach for my 40 and I turn up

I think it's more official I think it's more official because I'm fainting. And Pixelated Boat tweeted, I once loved Bernie Sanders because whenever he gets hungry, a thought bubble appears over his head with a big old corn cob in it. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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