The Daily Zeitgeist - Loans Vs Crips, Rest In Gangsta’s Paradise 09.30.22

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

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I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because

of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 256, Episode 5 of the Daily Zeitgeist, the season finale. Diet Coke. September 30th, 2022. And September 30th is, of course, National Chewing Gum Day,

National Hot Mold Cider Day, National Love People Day, National Mud Pack Day, and Orange Shirt Day. Daniel, do any of those speak to you? I'm curious. Is love people like just a celebration of loving people? Or are love people specific kind of people that I haven't heard of? The day asks us to lift others up through the profound power of unconditional love. I'm not.

I can't find any problems with that. I'm for that. Exactly. But then you read the fine print and they're like, who is deserving of this? Well, obviously, followers of Christ and those who are not. Well, obviously, they are off to the rescue spin. That's what their destiny holds. Read the fine print. But yeah, love people day. Also, chew your gum, too. Love your chewing spin. That's what their destiny holds.

But yeah, love people. They also chew your gum, too. Love your chewing gum. And I love an orange shirt. I really do. You can see, look. I got two right here. Look at that.

You are laced up. Ask me if I don't like an orange shirt. I love an orange shirt. Anyway, what does that mean? It's about the Dutch national team. Yeah, well, you know. The Dutch jersey comes with a full smoke session in LAa depending on what part of town you're in just yeah people remember that world cup and arian robin but anyway i digress who am i pd pop mother wait no that's a different song my name is miles gray aka a hideo noho the lord of lakersham i know that a lot of people have been hitting me

with akas i've been very busy i will get get to them. I saw some fantastic ones, so apologies for using my traditional moniker, but I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host who's been rocking with me off and on the last couple days, but someone I've been rocking with since I met. Wonderful producer, wonderful gamer,

wonderful Twitch streamer, wonderful host. Please welcome my beloved Daniel Goodman. What's up, what's up? It's DJ Daniel, aka wonderful twitch streamer wonderful host please welcome my beloved daniel goodman what's up what's up it's dj daniel aka mr steal your ariel happy to be here building living in hot sauce heaven and uh yeah it's a wonderful wonderful friday morning wink wink yeah and uh yeah happy to be here wait why hot sauce heaven i just got a couple new bottles of hot sauce and i am loving it don't hold out on me what'd you get i certainly will not so every new season of hot ones pretty much aligns with me finishing another bottles of hot sauce and I am loving them. Don't hold out on me. What'd you get? I certainly will not. So every new season of hot ones pretty much aligns with me finishing another bottle of hot sauce that I already have in my fridge.

Oh, gosh, you got you. And let me tell you something. I've been the king of buying too many hot sauces and not finishing them. So now I have a new deal with myself and with my partner, Stephanie, that I won't buy any more hot sauce until I finish a bottle. Oh, blood in, blood out. I mean, got to be. Because otherwise they just sit in there, they get smelly, they get... Anyway.

So, I just got a couple of new ones. Wait a minute, hold on. They get smelly? Well, I mean, like... It's like all vinegar and preserved. No, exactly. They get crusty. Anyway. Oh, yeah. Well, you gotta respect the rim. You gotta respect the bottom. You gotta respect the rim. You gotta be... Anyway, I got the Fly-By-Jing Sichuan Gold, which is basically

just like, you know, the spicy Sichuan oil that you get with crispy vinegar. It's so good. And the other one is Piri Piri Sauce. Oh, Piri Piri. Okay. But I thought it was Piri Piri. Piri Piri. Okay. Exactly. So I could run and get

the ingredients, but so far they're different flavors, but really delicious. Very nice. Okay. Very nice flavors thus far. Good heat. Yeah. A 3 out of 5 and a 3 out of 10 and a 5 out of 10. So good heat, not really delicious. Very nice. Okay. Very nice flavors thus far. Good heat. Yeah. A three out of five and a three out of ten and a five out of ten. So good heat, not too crazy. Yeah. Okay. I respect that. Love hot sauce.

I have one whole shelf and a half on my refrigerator door. All hot sauce. I love it. What's your favorite hot sauce? What are you talking about? Well, there's context to it. I don't go willy nilly with the hot sauce. Fair. Fair. Fair. My favorite traditional American hot sauce? What are you talking about? Well, there's context to it. Okay. I don't go willy-nilly with the hot sauce. Fair, fair, fair. My favorite traditional American hot sauce is Crystal.

That is Crystal. What a sensational answer. Crystal is number one regular hot sauce. I love Tabasco too, but I love Crystal. My grandparents always used Crystal hot sauce. I also had Tabasco, so I have a nostalgia, like brand loyalty with Crystal. Sure. My favorite thing to marinate hot

wings in, by the way, if you just get a Ziploc bag and just empty a bottle of Crystal with the wings, let that sit for a couple hours, grill that. I'm telling you, that's a party. The way I was going to phrase that question was, what's your shooting hot sauce or your drinking hot sauce? The one that after you put something on it, you just take a little

straight down the throat. Oh, yeah. Crystal. Crystal. 100%. But then I looked, look, this isn't a hot seat daniel we can start talking about old music 20 years ago or hot sauces and our new show called hot number ones where we talk about just hot number one singles while eating hot sauce and reviewing that anyway let's get to our guests because we have a fantastic guest today. Somebody who's come through the ranks of the NextUp program. So, you know, they're bringing the heat. TV and film critic. Okay.

This is what I love to have on when people, because I don't have enough time to watch good TV or films. I say, hey, what's something good? Please tell me. Please save me the time. You can also catch our new podcast. It's called On Call with KB. The science behind the scenes. Please welcome to the stage, KB!

Welcome, KB. Hello, hello. Thank you for joining me. I was trying really hard not to say anything during this hot sauce conversation. What you got? I saw your face go up. I was really trying. You know, crystal is all right.

It's not bad. But you know, sometimes you need a little Franks, right? You know, sometimes Franks always, always, always need Tabasco. You know, I just think that extra pepper kick, something about it. You got to have it. You got to have the four horsemen, Tabasco, Crystal, Cholula, Tapatio. Damn. That's like in LA, you gotta have those hot.

You can't just have Tapatio or Cholula. I love all God's hot sauce. You know what? I'm a Texan. So that Cholula, I can leave. I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, what? It's not really for me.

I have noticed though, it's very much like a California thing. Because a lot of people in Texas don't buy Cholula. We're like, what is this? Right. No. I got Becca going off saying Valentino for life. Yeah, Valentino I love, too. I use Valentino.

I'm not going to lie. I've never had Valentino. It is fire. Is Cholula adjacent? But let me tell you something. Without that wooden cap, that special modified wooden cap, you save a little money on the Valentino and you get a huge

bottle. The bottle is ridiculous. I'm telling you. It's huge. And you just go off. And it glugs. The little opening, watch the fuck out. Because if you're weak, you could douse your whole shit. Like, oh no, no, no, no, no. That's the whole shit. I love it. Also, talk about shooting hot sauce. Gotta shout Like, Oh no, no, no, no, no. I love it. Also shooting hot sauce.

Just got a shout out salsa. We chose, which is another Mexican hot sauce, which is fucking dope. You can find that locally. Anyway, this isn't about hot sauce. KB. I love that your podcast you're talking about you. So you had a medical background. What's your, what did you, how did you get to, how did you get to now podcasting and being like, let's talk about

some of the medical things we've seen on television? Yeah. So my background, my degrees are in biology and chemistry. And in graduate school, I had a focus on cancer immunotherapy. And so I have been very, very interested in the sciences for a long time. And I wanted to help people, but I didn't want to treat patients. Didn't want that liability, to be quite honest. So I was like, how can I also work in healthcare, use these degrees, but not have to do that? So yeah, I've had a very long career in healthcare, doing process improvement work and working with a ton of national healthcare organizations on how to improve them from the

inside out and make sure that patients are getting the absolute best care that they can, you know, in the current environment that we have, which is not perfect and not always ideal. I will say that. Huge disparities for people. Yeah. All the time. So I moved to New York to take a job for a hospital that I shall not name. And I ended up just getting back into writing. When I was younger, I wrote a lot of things, a lot of short stories, had a very creative mind. And I've also just always been interested in the arts. I've always watched tons and tons of film and tons and tons of TV shows. And so when I moved to New York, I said, hey, guess what? Let's do this thing called podcasting and writing and get more into TV and film criticism.

And that was a long time ago. I mean, honestly, I haven't kept track of the years, but eight years, 10 years, I don't know, somewhere around there. And from there, I had this idea. I loved ER growing up. That was actually one of my favorite shows, still is, of all time. I think it was brilliant and done so well. And I said, man, I would really love to kind of merge my two careers because working in both fields simultaneously is no small feat. It takes a lot of juggling

schedule wise for sure. And so I was like, Hey, how can I merge this? Maybe I'll just do a show because people are always asking like, Oh, you watch a lot of medical dramas. Like, is this true? Is this accurate? You know, where do they get this information? Can I die from a soccer ball hitting me in the chest? You know, it's wild. Yes. And I love to tell people like the human body is so exceptionally extraordinary, but it's also quite real. And so like the smallest thing can really take you out. Like, you're like, Oh no. Like, you know,

when you hear people, they like choke and then they die. You're like, I choke every day. Like I can't believe that person died. Like it's like the smallest thing. And then some of the most robust and crazy things can happen. So I was like,

let's do it. And let's kick season off. Season one off with Grey's Anatomy. Thank you. Because it is the longest running medical show currently on TV. Yeah. And they do have some exceptionally wild cases. Yeah, season 19 actually is about to

premiere. So, you know. And look, you know, I'm glad they named the show after me. I really appreciate that. You know, only way to do it. Originally, Meredith was supposed to be Miles Grey, but that's okay. You know, they did their thing. And then they could have got rid of all the convoluted like half black sibling stuff and they could have just had a black and east lead from the beginning but you know that's shonda was on her own

path and i'm not going to get in the way of that obviously shout out to the seattle city of seattle though uh kb we are going to get to know you even better but first let's tell what our listeners and all of us are going to be talking about or hearing about just got to check back in with the right wing freak outs this time it's about student loans and john federman is a crip we talked a little bit about newt gingrich alluding to that now i'm understanding what exactly they're even talking about and it's his desperate then gonna talk about coolio we don't typically we'll usually we'll talk about things on trends but as i was looking at sort of the all the tributes that were pouring in with about coolio

i really realized that i massively underrated him not to say that i never thought his music was good but where he stands like in the sort of evolution of hip-hop going into the mainstream i think coolio is mad like had a massive contribution to that and i completely forgot about it so we are going to talk about that uh and then since we have somebody with a bit of tv and film expertise here i want to talk about best second screen shows movies because a lot of people don't nearly you know we used just watch TV, like sit down and your eyeballs were fixed. Now we do tons of other things. And it does feel like a genre of like kind of content you can consume, something you can have on while also getting some other shit done. So I'm curious to get some suggestions from the both of you and plenty more.

But first, we got to ask our guest, KB, what is something from your search history that's revealing a little bit about who you are or what you're into right now? Honestly, all of my search history revolves around the interviews that I'm doing. So I still do TV and film criticism. I still interview talent every single week. And so the last thing I searched actually with IMDB for a new TV series that is coming out on Amazon's freebie, which I'm, I'm not freebie. Yeah. It's like this. I'm not entirely sure why all of the networks now have like these extra verticals,

but freebie is a vertical of prime video. It's kind of like how Onyx collective is a vertical of Hulu, but it will stream on Amazon. So it's a, it's a show called high school and so that's really honestly the last thing i googled because honestly the series is fantastic so i should start there wait what is it okay is it it's a dramatic it's a drama yeah it's a drama but it's based on uh on a true story about twins, Sarah and Tegan. And they are actually a Canadian super group. I was like, where's this going?

No matter where you go, out of my mind. Isn't that Tegan and Sarah? Out of my mind. Yeah, okay. Yes. I was walking with the ghost. I said, please. I remember please i remembered okay i was there wait i'm sorry i got i completely hijacked you speaking about this so

tegan and sarah go on yeah so it's actually uh based on their memoir they're the book that they released called high school this is the tv show about it. And so this is season one. It's premiering, I think in a few weeks, it's definitely premiering in October, but it's actually exceptional. And so it's just about them, their relationship with their parents, them, you know, kind of getting into music and finding out that they are truly musically inclined. And then also their dating relationship. So both of them are lesbians and so you know kind of how they start to navigate their sexuality in high school and it is so so good so yeah that's the actually what i searched i searched more information so i could be better prepared for those interviews but that's actually my last search history i mean yeah shout out to the the odds god goddesses of tegan and

sarah because i mean i wasn't like a huge fan but i by osmosis i liked enough music to be like what's this i know this let's go deeper but wow i didn't realize they had a show yeah okay and honestly i did not read the book prior to but i am looking forward to picking it up like the show is so good and it makes me want to read the book so i'm definitely going to go out and buy and read it next hey i love i love when the show makes me want to read the book you know that's why that's why i said passion of the christ really underrated got me reading the new testament again thanks book hard to get what some of you think is overrated bananas bananas overrated yes go on over rated bananas avocados i mean like land the plane land the plane and i'm like hold on hold on first off bananas taste like pure mush

like the the texture the consistency the flavor like also what is that flavor also because i truly i truly want to have an allergy to both. That actually would be my dream. I hate them just that much. Like, I'm like, please, what is a banana? Like, why would you do this to us? Why, why? And it takes over every single thing you eat it with.

That is so gross. It has the nastiest flavor and it just takes it over. Like, I do not want banana in my smoothie. That is gross. Please leave it out. Don't need it. Now, avocado. And, you know, listen, you have to add things to make it taste better.

Which means what? It's bland. Like, if you're just eating an avocado by itself, it's like, oh, okay. I have to add a lot of things to it. Like if you're just eating an avocado by itself, it's like, oh, okay. I have to add a lot of things to it. Yeah. I'm not eating it with a spoon out the thing. No, I'm definitely, it's part of, I love avocados because to me it's like butter.

If butter was a vegetable, it would be avocado. Because you can add it and it takes on, I think the opposite of bananas, it can take on whatever it's working with. And it gives you a little bit of that creaminess. Bananas, it's funny, they're both, I'm sure, they must be like high in potassium because they both make my throat itch. Very. And I don't, bananas specifically really would always bother me as a kid because they make my throat itch. And then I was one of those kids who didn't eat like avocados until they were like 16. And I was like, yo, what the fuck is this?

And then I had a discovery moment. Yeah didn't eat like avocados until they were like 16. And I was like, yo, what the fuck is this? And then I had a discovery moment. Yeah, yeah. I came around to it. But yeah, I. But in a flavor, I don't mind it in a smoothie. Got to say strawberry. Now, listen, that's that's a nailed on combo for me. I cannot, cannot do banana in a smoothie like would rather not survive.

But the avocado. Oh my God, I would rather die so quickly. I'm like, I cannot. But the avocado so quickly i'm like i cannot but the avocado absolutely like if you put it in a smoothie because i'm having a smoothie with like a multitude of other things i'm using the avocado for creaminess but realistically the fact that i just have to add so many things to it to make it be good is like y'all y'all cannot be charging this high price for this thing that i still have to pay to add more stuff to it to make it taste good okay i got i got i got a question yeah no no no no go on daniel all right my question revolves around the usage of banana are you answer so it sounds like banana it's the banana itself the flavor of the banana

everything about consistency of the banana i get that are you anti-banana bread yes of course daniel because the flavor the flavor is too strong she says she's not fucking with the flavor yeah but but there's there's a there's a cakiness that comes into it well then stop caping for banana bread to somebody who does you know they she will not see the light she doesn't want to and you got to recognize that i tell you about that in our ministry all the time you know when we're trying to save people you got peanut butter nander sandwich come on nope never yeah i mean i'll pass on it i'm not asking for it okay just just so i get an idea of where you're at what to you is the best fruit

that you could eat oh my favorite fruit is definitely pineapple i like that it's you know sweetness it's good i like blueberries i like strawberries i am allergic to melon so i can't have it yeah but i have you had a homie melon h-a-m-i it looks like a like a yo go get that at the store it it has it it's like a it's like a a melon but it has like watermelony texture where it's like a little crunchy and like very like grit i i was ignorant and somebody gave it to me for the first time last week and i was like what the fuck is this looks like cantaloupe yeah but the but it's the texture it's the texture okay good to know because i love pineapple and then just to really round out your food take does pineapple belong on a pizza so you guys are not gonna like this okay but i'm not a huge fan of pizza so in

general that's fine in general all right but uh-huh i when i used to eat it more regularly before, I was like, yo, I can do without pizza for real. I wouldn't mind pineapple if it was with something savory. Like if it were like pineapple and pepperoni. So that would be like a little balance of the sweet and savory. You know what I mean? Okay. I disagree. I just think it has no place on pizza, but that's fine.

And I like that you don't eat pizza, so we will keep it moving. I'm sorry, Daniel. All I'm going to add is that I feel like the nice middle ground of the sweet, savory conversation that Pineapple evokes is the pastor taco. Are you a taco fan? Yes. Love tacos. Love pastor tacos. The pastoral taco with a little piece of pineapple is that middle ground that I think everybody who's on either side of the pineapple conversation can come to and agree upon. But Miles is shaking his head no. And now I'm really curious. I will put that shit on the side. I will eat the pineapple first, like in a mousse or as like a cap to the end.

And not with the pork. Not about it. I'm not, dude. I hate sometimes the sweet and savory, like when apples are in a salad, I'm like, get the fuck out of my fucking salad. The fuck are y'all doing in here? This is a fucking joke. Yeah. Look, we all have our own specificities.

You know, I choked out somebody who said they walked out of anger management, even though I hadn't even seen the film. So we're all very, we're all operating on different scales of what is reasonable and what is not. Lastly, KB, what is something you think is underrated? I'm going to skirt right past that. I choked somebody out. Anyway, what else? People listen. We spent too much time on this show, me talking about

this kid. I went to high school and he acted real cool. Like that was a cool, like that made him cooler than everybody that he walked out of anger management okay go back to episode probably like 700 000 or whatever when i talked about it uh but kb we digress what is something you think is underrated people who are raised well okay now what that means you know there are some human beings that you are just like oh it is so refreshing to know that you were raised well. Like you're kind, you have emotional intelligence, you know, like you you mind your business where where you should, you know, like you're inclusive. You're still fun, but you know that your parents raised you well, their parents raised them well, rather.

That's so underrated. Like I find that, you know, human beings in this world, oftentimes we just don't give enough props to the people who were truly raised well, and they're moving through life. And you're like, you're a kind human being. I love to see it. Damn. They're like, they did all right with you, huh? Yes. Yes. I mean, you know, parenting is literally like a guessing game. I feel like it doesn't feel trying to figure it out with the soul that we have. Right. And, you know, I'm like, good job. Shout out to your parents. What's the thing? What's the what's the quality that you appreciate most when you when you throw somebody in the column of raised? Well, like what's that? What's the most potent quality for you?

Like, oh, man, I love love that. I love politeness and human kindness. Like there's sometimes I will meet a child like I don't know, like through their parents or whatever. But like a child that is kind, I'm like, you're going to turn out to be raised well. Like you're going to grow up to be a good one. You are a sociopath and you're figuring it out. Oh, no. Look, see see that's i'm always on edge i'm like what's why is this kid smart are they the fucking next fucking who knows what but that's just my own trust issues i think yeah okay okay yeah i'm like no you know the little ones say

they're like okay but i would say and you know i i have this conversation at length a human being that is raised well that you just know is raised well and i have not met him but i know he's raised well keanu reeves like he's probably one of those people that you're like i know he's raised well like you could just tell yeah i think there's two ways right to arrive there you can be raised well or you can see enough bullshit that you end up figuring it out. And you're like, I actually ended up like this because I saw so much shit. I figured it out pretty quickly that this was probably the way to actually exist rather than in the chaos I witnessed. So I definitely, the wisdom is either way.

It's either coming from the parents or it's coming from your life. But I do, I do like when you, when you meet people that arrive there, I know what you mean. Like you can feel it like, okay, you got a good guy. You got some good going on. I think wisdom like that is deeply, deeply underrated. Being able to see something and learn from it. It's not simply my experience. It's my experience.

It's I see something. You're like, actually, you know what? I think that's something that I could take on. And that's a trait that I need to practice more in my own daily life. And that kind of wisdom, very, very underrated. So I see that 100%. Right. I think, yeah, life. And that kind of wisdom, very, very underrated. So I see that 100%. Right. I think, yeah, just be somebody who pursues wisdom, right?

Because so much of our lives, we go through a lot of shit. It's easy to be like, I'm not thinking with that. I'm not thinking about that. I don't want to deal with that right now. And we push it away and try and like go on like automation mode and like let shit just simmer in the back. But really, you want to be able to confront those moments, feel the totality of what you're experiencing as a person,

because the more you sit with a thought like that, I was just, you know, I've had to grieve a lot of people over the last couple of years is, you know, like even when you, you think about like loss, right. And you're like, I don't want to fucking deal with it. It's just too heavy or whatever. But a lot of the pain you feel is because it's the love that you feel for that person and the love you know this person has had for you and i think part of that you know is being able rather than running away from that is to try and sit and feel the grief and tell yourself it's going to be okay but also remind yourself that it's the love that's

there that you're really feeling that's what you're running away from and try and evolve your thinking around it so rather than a topic you go i don't want to think about it. It's too sad. You can think about it and be like, damn, I love that person and they love me. And that's what I get when I think about it. I think it's also too, just the fear that you won't have that again, right? Like there's a little bit of that in the grieving process, just kind of being like, oh no, will I ever, you know, be able to love like this again in this capacity. So sitting, I do think you're right. We just have to kind of sit in it and also just remember the good times you did have. Like, yeah, of all the feelings, you know, because that's where the wisdom's at.

The wisdom, people run away from opportunities to accept the wisdom, but that's part of it. But yes, I love that point. And if you're somebody who's walking around like a decent human being shout the fuck out to you yes less generational wealth more generational mental health oh wow look at that truth okay let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk some weird shit. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into

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They're they're struggling to find a way to get people to be outraged right now, especially when their whole platform is like we're into forced birth and no safety for a human on Earth. You guys want to vote for us? And they're like, what the fuck? So people are now, you know, the media, the right wing media is definitely trying to find new things to sort of focus on to try and make it look like, oh, my gosh, Joe Biden, just get him out. And there's plenty of reasons to want better for this country. But the reasons that Republicans are going after are just so fucking weak sauce, as we say, my generation. But first off, they may have finally found someone that can try to challenge Biden's student loan debt forgiveness program. Because the second Biden announced it, the clock basically started ticking for someone to emerge that had some kind of legal standing to say that, I will be damaged by this plan that would help alleviate student debt.

I, me, I am going to be hurt. That's why this can't go on. It's so unfair. And aside from just saying the thing of like, well, poor people don't deserve shit. They needed to find a like legal argument and they may have found someone enter this guy who's a lawyer who's now suing. His name is Frank Garrison. This is from this write up in the New Republic says, quote, according this is this is what his this is what his legal argument is to say, let's hear it. Stop giving people student loan debt relief. According to the complaint, Garrison took out a series of student loans and Pell Grants to pay for his college education. After completing law school, he began working

at a public interest law firm like the one that he works at called the Pacific Legal Foundation that qualified him for the Federal Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program. In exchange for working in a, quote, public interest field for 10 years, qualified participants are able to get their monthly loan payments capped based on their income. The remaining portion of their loans is then forgiven at the end of the 10-year period. Great program. Fantastic. Great.

You're doing something for the public interest. We'll hook it up. Great. But here's the thing. There's a catch. Biden's order, according to Garrison, will wipe away $20,000 worth of his student loan debt. He was on track to have all of it forgiven in just over four years from now. Garrison claimed that under Indiana tax law, the $20,000 reduction will be taxed as income and he will have to pay roughly $1,000 for it. will be taxed as income and he will have to pay roughly $1,000 for it. He described it as a net loss for himself and for the potential plaintiffs in at least six other states where

he said the tax codes are similarly structured. $1,000. You're a lawyer and the journalists who were working on this piece, they looked at probably what you're making. It's solidly in the six figures, probably up like around 200. So is are you really a person who is experiencing a net loss from this? And this all sounds very convoluted, but this is apparently the closest they are going to come to be able to legally challenge this for now. Most people say that, like, it's possible that he could prevail, but really unlikely because of like the lengths he would have to go to really prove these damages. could prevail, but really unlikely because of like the lengths he would have to go to really prove these damages. But the thing is, a federal judge could just like block the program for people that are specifically in his situation without like destroying the whole thing for everybody else. And also the Biden administration, they didn't finalize the program when he filed his lawsuit.

So based on like the version that he's suing off of, the White House House now amended it and said, we're actually having an opt out option for people if you want to opt out of the relief, basically for people in this kind of situation. So now it's his lawsuit is pretty meaningless, but they're like, oh, God, you almost came close to stopping massive amounts of help for people. stopping massive amounts of help for people. So wait, let me just get this right. So I just want to make sure I'm actually clear. So he's upset because essentially by getting 20k of his, let's just say $300,000. So I'm, I'm making that up, but law school is very expensive. So let's just assume that, you know, he has 300 K in debt. So he's upset because if 20 K of it is forgiven, he will then owe a thousand dollars or a thousand dollars rather would be added to his taxable income. And this is why he's upset. Yeah. Because that's a net loss for him because i was gonna have i could have on the way it was going i could have had the debt relieved but since joe byron wanted to give me money and the indiana tax laws are set up to basically punish people who are receiving student

loan forgiveness let's keep that in mind that's the whole point of those similarly structured tax laws that is why he's like i am damaged i am glenn close and this is damages please so i i have an i have another question here to clarify some things here i have just just just clarifying everything so the idea is that after 10 years of working in this service all of your student loan debt is cleared yeah and in that interim 10-year period it is capped so you're still making loan payments correct it's just capped at a certain amount yes yes okay cool based on your income yeah so in four years his student loan debt is going to be wiped out he still had four years left of capped payments to make yeah so okay so four years left of student loan payments to

make okay so i have to imagine four years If you're paying a yearly payment, that $1,000 he's talking about having lost, that means each over the next four years, he would only be paying $200. No, Daniel, you're trying to make it logical. $249 or something over each year for four years for that $1,000 to be a net loss. Am I? No. I'm sorry, Jack. Is my math completely wrong here? each year for four years for that $1,000 to be a net loss. Am I, now tell me, is my math completely wrong here? You're just like Jack now with your logic here. The whole point isn't to make a sound argument.

It's to just try and drum up enough outrage. This is happening. That's why for most people, like, because the white house is like, you could opt out. We get it. Like,

that's a great program and it's never intended to conflict with it. That's why a judge would probably like, they're would be like, oh, well, then it just makes sense to have like to block the law for this specific group of people because it's it's the tax law is conflicting with this existing program. But but here's the thing. They're also not saying that you can't have both. Right. You can qualify for the twenty thousand,000 forgiveness and also still qualify

in your public service forgiveness program. So at the end of the day, if he had $300,000 and he went through with this $20,000 Biden, well, one, you still owe money. So maybe be upset about that. I mean, you still owe $280,000. Right. So it's like be one thing. It's like, well, it's 20,000 reduction, but a $21,000 tax on top of it. I'm at a net loss. It's like, oh, but you still owe 280 K. So this is the lengths they're going. Because if you like, what's wild is when this lawsuit was announced, like places like the wall street journal were like celebrating, they were like, yes, finally they found somebody who's What's wild is when this lawsuit was announced, places like the Wall Street Journal were celebrating. They were like, yes, finally, they found somebody who's going to stop this ridiculous handout.

It's like, this isn't a fucking handout. All you guys are reporting on this shit without genuinely or sincerely talking about how predatory the whole student loan scheme is right now that we run in this country. That's the issue here. Not the like, oh, wow, they're trying to help them out. But again, we shouldn't be surprised to continue the freak out. John Federer. Not there's more. There's more.

There's always more. There's truly always more. This is a daily show and there's still always more. And there's so much coming up the pipeline to the FDA. There's changed like guidelines on what they could call healthy food. So I'm there's gonna be something for that too oh my god wait what on john federman tomato sauce back on the menu are we a vegetable again john yeah exactly ketchup is a health food oh we call that a tomato smoothie but we got to talk about the crips okay obviously because john federman who's a senate candidate in pennsylvania we got to talk about the i don't know why he got all that flu on but

apparently we have seen this like uptick in all of this like outrage manufactured outrage about him being affiliated with crips we talked about this earlier in the week. We talked about Newt Gingrich who's like and his, what about his affiliation with the Crips gang? And we're like, what? This old white, like this fucking older, like middle-aged white guy who looks nothing like a real gang member? Huh? And I was like

where the fuck is this all coming from? We saw more takes. It wasn't just from Newt Gingrich. Another one was like, Democrat John Fetterman has a dangerous record on public safety and crime. know he can't be trusted to keep pennsylvania safe another one this is like another then dr oz retweeted this article with the text being pa democrat john fetterman embraced spelling of braddock that showed fidelity to notorious crip gang what is that, what does that mean? I know. I'm like,

it'd be one thing if you saw him, like, you know, throwing up sets, like, in a fucking picture, and, like, you know, he's flying colors and stuff. You're like, oh, wow, like, look at him. Like, he's seawalking, and he's, oh, okay, he's bout it, bout it. But no. What is this all about? It's because of, he used an alternate spelling of

the town braddock which was the town he was mayor of in campaign materials rather than spelling it d-o-c-k it was d-o-c-c and that was a like and they're saying like that was coming from the gangs that were spelling it like that and this is he's explained this before this is nothing new but again because this is manufactured outrage. This is an interview he gave a while back when he was explaining how he's had two different spellings of Braddock. Quote, this is from John Fetterman. During my campaign, I used vote John Mayor of Braddock with the two C's and vote John Mayor of Braddock, O-C-K, the way it's traditionally spelled. And the reason why I did that is because there are two Braddocks.

And you have to acknowledge that, Fetterman said in a 2015 interview. We have to acknowledge that there's the Braddock that only young people know, the Braddock of despair and decline. And they grew up in an area when they never knew there were 14 furniture stores and three movie theaters. So it's basically saying like, I get like, this is, it's colloquial. And then they said like, he's got this sign in his house that has Crips on it. It's like, get like this is it's colloquial and then they said like he's got this sign in his house that has crips on it's like it was like a town thing that somebody tagged it's not to say like oh yeah man when i started the fucking crips like what this is like this is this this rings of somebody being i don't i'm trying to okay to be honest with you i'm trying to think of a of an analog here but i'm reaching to coll to be honest with you i'm trying to think of a of an

analog here but i'm reaching to colloquial with stuff i'd be like this would be like somebody saying that they're like a fan of the doyers instead of the dodgers and being like so they don't embrace the original name of the dodgers or something like that or being like oh he's an ms13 because he wore a doyer's you're like what literally any any sort of racist outreach that they could possibly go for is just like so desperate and stupid when it's just like as if reaching out to a younger generation using colloquials it's like i would almost be like okay it's almost like a little cringe to try and use some young kid talk to describe something for a political campaign but really

they're saying like it's gang relatedrelated. It's very 90s shoe. It's very 92. I was going to say both are true. Both are true. Well, the fact that he even said, grew up in an era where they never knew there were 14 furniture stores and three movie theaters. Like, sir, what?

Why would you even add that into your speech, please? Like, it's just the entire thing is cringe and also aren't they tired like aren't human beings tired of being this way no unfortunately i don't know i mean that's the fucked up thing is that they're not tired of being this way well i i mean they're tired of being tired for sure fair like with these tired ass like attacks that don't make sense to anyone especially in Pennsylvania. Like one of these journalists was pointing out, like in Philly, like this is a statewide this for Senate. It's not just for this region. Like the idea of a Crips or Bloods gang doesn't necessarily resonate in Philly because the gang culture is different.

They don't have like Crips and Bloods in the same numbers, like somewhere like L.A. might. We're like you're like, oh, right, Crips or Bloods or whatever. So it's also just kind of like this weird thing again, where it's very like 92 type shit where people like, you know, I think most like white American conservatives, if you ask them to name a gang, they were like, I remember Crips versus Bloods. And so everything has to like fit into this like very rigid, overt dog whistly thing, which isn't just to say John Fetterman's dangerous is that John Fetterman also, you know, he's out here consorting with the likes of black gang members or some shit like that, which is just again, can put me to sleep with how fucking tired this attack is it's very old it's so old yeah really 90s is a really good way to put it because i feel like is that i don't know is that what we're even really worried about he doesn't even look like the kinds of white dudes that are in gangs you know what i mean like

you see the odd white dude who's like down with the set you're like whoa whoa it's not john i was about to say honestly too though to your Miles, like the white people who know anything. Well, I'm not going to say no. The white people who are mentioning the Bloods versus Crips likely don't even know what that means. Like they're just saying it like, oh, yeah, versus Crips. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you're like. So tell me, what does that mean? Go ahead. What does that mean? Oh, they're like, oh, I know who Stanley Tukey Williams is. He started the Crips. You're like, okay, well, you saw that FX film. You saw that

one movie with Jamie Foxx. Okay, we get it. We get it. No, I do know. It is ravaging the community. What community? What community? When you're so invested in dismantling, it's like you can't have it both ways. So are gangs bad because of the chaos that it causes for people who live in those communities are you willing to help no it's just a talking

point to try and you know make dr oz not look like a total fucking mannequin of a candidate let's be real i mean honestly i'm curious what the next thing they're gonna grasp at because first they're like he's they tried to say he was you know dr oz was trying to say federman's out of touch. It's like, bro, you don't even live in Pennsylvania. And then he's a he's a crip. He's a gang member because he has tattoos. Really?

They're going to say he looks too much like a bad guy from a Pixar movie. So, you know, he's bad. And it's like, what the fuck does that even mean? Vote for Dr. Oz. No, thank you you please never do that guys no no i won't i won't i won't oh i won't either all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about something that was that's actually cool coolio hey i'm gianna Pradente.

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or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. Coolio passed away on Wednesday in Los Angeles, age of 59, I believe. I was like, when I heard it, I was like, oh shit, Coolio, man. Like I remember Coolio. Like, yeah, heard it, I was like, oh, shit, Coolio, man. Like, I remember Coolio. Like, yeah, great memories, great memories. But like I was saying at the top of the show, tissue that helped bridge the gap between rap and the mainstream. Because just in a vacuum, right?

In 1994, when his album, It Takes a Thief, comes out, this is the same year as like hip hop, like capital H hip hop. Illmatic came out in 94. Ready to Die. Southern southern playlisted cadillac music from outcast like these are albums that like hip-hop heads like you know were like oh yeah i know these albums but it takes a thief was really something special because even amongst all that right it had fantastic voyage on it which was like the first, our first introduction to Coolio. Come along and ride on the Fantastic Voyage. With the classic sample. Yeah.

Okay. We all know that. We were all there doing our thing. Actually, no, that's one, two, three, four. But Fantastic Voyage was like a huge, huge track. I didn't realize in Australia, it was top of the charts for 37 weeks. In Canada, 17 weeks. In Germany, 91 weeks.

Yo. Okay. In the Netherlands, the top 40, 31 weeks. New Zealand, eight weeks. Sweden, 29 weeks. Hell yeah. UK dance music charts, 13 weeks. Like, that song was huge it really was and i think a lot of that like was the beginnings of like a really pervasive like

hip-hop hit that was kind of accessible to many people and i think it had a playfulness that made it danceable and easy to access and then we get gangsta's paradise okay and that fucking cemented it like this my mom even like was like i like that song that's like like she didn't know the words but she could do lv's part i'm like yep that's lv we already know and i think that was like another moment too where we're seeing like something new like who else was doing a music video with Michelle Pfeiffer? Good question. You know, who was doing that? And like, no one.

And I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong there in the route, they're also talking about this, that this is maybe one of the first major Hollywood film soundtracks that had a rap song, like leading it. Like, you know, like that was the lead single off the soundtrack was that one. Now work your. Yeah. leading it like you know like that was the lead single off the soundtrack was that one now work yeah and i'd say yeah i'd say probably also just that wasn't like categorized as a black film yes you know because gangster's paradise wasn't i mean obviously it had michelle

fife for the original cool writer og but you know it wasn't it wasn't a black film you know so i think i think that actually is probably true yeah and the single was wild right like i know bobby brown had some on ghostbusters and things like that but it didn't necessarily get to the point where we're like that shit is a fucking phenomenon and again the fucking charts like speak for themselves with gangster's paradise or yeah it's like first of all i didn't even realize that uh anton anton fuqua directed that video director of training day yeah f gary gray the director of friday and also fate of the furious and many other things straight out of compton he directed fantastic voyage wow but yeah like the gangster's paradise thing the charts were

also absurd the amount of time this this thing was at the top of the charts, like even bigger than fucking Fantastic Voyage could have been. And the story. Right. There's like a really interesting story about the sample. Right. So Stevie Wonder track where he was trying to get that sample cleared. And that was already like a big struggle to even get that sample cleared. And this is this is a little anecdote from Coolio about it. Quote, But the thing was, we still had to get Stevie to sign off on it. When Stevie heard it, he was like, no, no way. I'm not letting my song be used in some gangster song.

So that was a problem. And it just so happened that my wife, she knew Stevie's brother. I guess he had been trying to tap that for years. And he's laughing. She made a call to him, got a meeting with Stevie and talked him into it. His only stipulation was that I had to take the curse words out. I had two places where I had the N word in it and two places where it was like fucked in the ass or something like that. And Stevie said that if I take that out, he would sign off on it. Unbeknownst to me, the other condition was that he wanted 95%

of the publishing. Had I known that, I'm not sure I would have went ahead with that, but I don't know. Maybe I would have. So that's how we ended up clearing it. 95%? Like, yo. I get it. He's like, come on, man. That's all me. The melody, come on. I get LV's doing his thing, that's all me like you the the melody come on i get lvs doing this thing but that is pretty wild anyway so i think of it too like for most millennials coolio songs were like like nailed on to be played at a school dance like it was like it was like the hip-hop song the teachers were comfortable with you know what i mean they're like oh coolio the one who's like got the wacky hair we like him sure sure sure so it's just like interesting i feel

like he has this very specific place that i think we don't really speak about like how really where that is and kind of the evolution of the mainstream of hip-hop obviously there's people like will smith and many others but like gangsta's paradise i was i was just with like some like people i went to elementary school with a while back and every every single person no matter you know what their background could spit the whole fucking song with their eyes closed 100 i mean also speaking to your point about the mainstream coolio you know one of the little additions that i added here specifically for my childhood and a lot of people's childhood he was the voice of the keenan and kel theme song and it's like such an important show to our childhood just like and you know you go back and listen to it and it's like such an important show to our childhood just like and you know you go back and

listen to it and it's like i sung this every single day every saturday night that i was that i was watching my keenan and kill getting my snick on that was the best and and having that kind of place in like the in the mind of someone's childhood is just so everlasting and permanent and it's like i would say like a kind of underrated part of coolio's career as well in that like you know it's not gangster's paradise but it is something that got spin after spin after spin through through syndication through vhs tapes through people just running back keenan and kell all the time like what an iconic show and and a truly truly iconic theme yeah i think the three of them i mean to be honest when i think about kind of black artists that are cemented to your point miles like in the

in our minds as millennials it it definitely is coolio i couldn't go anywhere without listening to it it was one of the few rap artists that my mom would let me listen to right you know because it was always kind of one of those things where it's like i don't know how much cursing is in this and what are they talking about but coolio was acceptable because to your point like if the teachers were playing it then you know she was like well okay i guess and to your point daniel kenan and kel like i mean the the black version of Nickelodeon was the only one I truly remember, you know, we could do anything off the network

and they had all the stars and all of the things and tons of actually tons of other artists too, that came on. I was like, who ran Nickelodeon during that time? Cause honestly, we should bring that back. Someone very cool. Someone very cool. I like that you have in your dental that you added this thing about Weird Al, like his beef with Weird Al. Yes, oh, the beef with Weird Al. Doing Amish paradise. I just love this because, you know, so this is a quote from a 2014 Vice article. And I think 2014, you know, feels like, I in the lexicon feels like not that long ago. But even eight years ago, admitting you were wrong was still a tough thing to do. And I think it's still a sign of intense wise and speaks to a mindset that I think we are still chasing to this day that I think everybody should be able to sit down and do. And I think when people do, it's lauded, but so often people will avoid it.

I'm just going to read this quote kind of quickly, if you don't mind. When I ask people what I should ask Coolio, the most common question I got got the thing most people want to know do you still have beef with weird al and coolio responds fuck no man i let that go so long ago let me say this i apologized to weird al a long time ago and i was wrong y'all remember that everybody out there who reads this shit real men and real people should be able to admit when they're wrong and i was wrong bro come on who the fuck am i bro he did parodies of michael jackson he did parodies of all kinds of people and i took events of it because i was being cocky and shit and being stupid and i was wrong and i should have embraced that shit and went with it it's like yeah just it just it's it's just so

mature and being like man that was really dumb i was wrong and i apologized and like squashed immediately it's just that's i'm glad he got there i'm glad he got there because honestly i remember this beef although it was obviously way before you know the internet took over our lives but i remember thinking during the entire time i'm like well out a weird owl makes fun of everyone literally everyone so what's not like it wasn't like he was singling him out i was like weird out just makes fun of every single human being who is uh an artist that made it i kind of looked at it as like dang like julio you made it right so i'm glad he eventually got there but it would have been i wonder how different it would have been i wonder how different

it would have been if he would have embraced it kind of during that time and just been like to his point because he goes on later to say in this interview that he was kind of upset with his management for not you know like kind of stepping in at the time and pulling him to the side and being like why are you so upset by this it's just the it's just the parody um and like you know pumping the brakes on it but i don't know i i feel him like y'all should have you should have just been like you know what i'm gonna embrace this because maybe it'll get my actual song more rotation right and i'm yeah i mean it just shows again like ego is the fucking worst thing to have for

your longevity because you can never be objective enough about your own work you can never be objective about much if you're constantly ruled by like like am i popping and that's the only thing that matters is like what what like rather than you know focusing on your craft or just again like noticing that here's another wave you could catch with the popularity of a song you made and rather than being like that be like man fuck you and it's all it's also a weird look. Like, like nobody needs beef with weird Al.

He's like the nicest fucking guy. It's like, he's 50 cent or something like, like I'm coming for weird out and that's going to get them motherfuckers. No. Weird. I'll just mind his business and make disparities. Like truly that is it.

Exactly. Exactly. Uh, but yeah, I think it's, it's important. And again, I feel like, you know, it's like, it's it's important and again i feel like you know it's like it's like people like coolio help give us like you know ludicrous and shit like

ludicrous i felt was another artist too who had that thing of like i'm having fun with like the music i'm making like yeah some of my lyrics are you know like they might they might veer into some street shit but for the most part i'm trying to have fun and i think that that sort of uh that helps a lot but anyway uh rest in peace to coolio and lastly i just wanted to ask y'all i just saw this listicle i'm thinking like digital trends where uh this guy joe allen was just sort of like writing about the best best movies to second screen and you know we're talking about second screen and we're talking about you know most of the time back in the day when you sat down there was one fucking screen and that was the tv or the film screen you were looking at to enjoy a television show or movie and now with you know little ipads laptops and things like that we increasingly like begin to

multitask while watching movies and talk about a second screen experience. I find myself doing this a lot more than actually primate, like just one screening it. And first off, I'm curious for the two of you, how often are you doing second screen watching or are you old school and give everything your attention? KB, I wonder if because you're having to actually critique things, it probably benefits you to have all your attention on something. Yeah, I cannot. If I'm watching something specifically for like a review or an interview, I absolutely cannot second screen. Like I do not have the focus or the capacity. Like I have to sit there.

I have to pay attention. I can't be doing anything else. Otherwise, I'm going to fail miserably. But if I'm going to second screen anything, what I found, and especially like during COVID, during the lockdown, it was always something that I found comforting, whatever that was, whatever I was watching, it was comforting. And I, you know, would be able to, you know, do laundry while, while having it go on your full laundry or you know like clean up or do something but it was always like a title that was comforting like i can second screen that this sounds terrible but i can second screen selena right so i know that would be like the back of

my hand so i can you know happily kind of do those things but i would say yeah for the first screening if i if i have to do it for work, I absolutely cannot. I can't. Right. Right. Right. I tried. Everyone, everyone I know, honestly, a lot of critics I know, they do it. You know, they're like, oh, no, I'm always doing something else. And I just don't I don't have the mental capacity. I don't. Sure. What about you, Dan? I have I have a definitely a different kind of second screen relationship. I am, you know, a big surprise here. Big gamer.

Big player of video games. So I have a monitor right here that I'm looking at and a monitor right here. And I will often have Twitch on. I know you do right now. And I will ask you to turn that off, bro, because you're recording. I don't know what you're talking about. Anyway, so yeah. Damn, the Twitch from Liquid is killing me.

Twitch is a big one just because it's kind of like the engagement times are really short. You know what I mean? It's like you're watching someone play a game. Like maybe they pop off and get a cool play every like, I don't know,

five, ten minutes or something like that. But the rest of it is kind of just general interaction with chat or whatever. It's not really that important. It's like, you know, you ever heard with cereal, they'll call like, like with Lucky Charms, you got the marshmallows and the rest of it's called like the wood.

It's like when it comes to Twitch, it's a lot of wood. And then you get some marshmallows in there every once in a while. So it allows you to kind of like eat it little piece by piece every, just in kind of like short spurts. So that's my main kind of second screen television. But if it not that it's a comfort show similar to how k is saying with something like great british bake-off yeah it's like i love the bake-off but i also know that you know

once you know what the baking challenge is going to be there's about 20 minutes of someone accidentally cracking an egg wrong or being like, my creme pat isn't setting properly or something or another where it's like, I don't need to hear you say the same thing over and over again. Let's get to the reviews so I can hear Paul Hollywood say, this is stodgy.

That's what I'm here for. Well, Dan, I have a question. Like when you are on Twitch and you're doing second screen, can you tell me what's happening on both? Like if someone were to come up to you and ask you, like what's going on in the show that you're watching or what's going on on Twitch right now? Could you tell me what's happening on both? Like if someone were to come up to you and ask you, what's going on in the show that you're watching

or what's going on on Twitch right now? Could you tell me? Yeah, I think so. Well, because most of the time with Twitch, so for example, I'm going to give you a second screening example for today. I'm going to be editing a lot of podcasts today and we're probably going to talk about this on Translator.

But the World Championships of League of Legends are about to start. It's about to enter the play-ins where there's going to be games all day long. And while I may not be able to tell you moment to moment exactly what play is happening, I'll be able to say, oh, yeah, this is the play-in stage of Worlds and Fnatic is playing Detonation Focus Me in the first round of the play-ins. And this is an important one.

And so it's like, while I might not be able to tell you exactly moment to moment, the context of what's going on is really what I'm trying to gather and i'll check over and be like oh that was a cool play all right edit right right what's going on there oh that's what's happening oh they won the game sick hell yeah okay next game the wood to marshmallow ratio i think is a good idea of that's actually what a what a prime second screen show gives you where you can like when the wood parts are happening you know it's wooden yeah and then when the marshmallows come up you know it's a marshmallow and it's time to shit focus that's why like i watch trash reality like my real housewives and shit there's a lot of wood in between and then they start popping off and you're like here's my marshmallows now miles do you watch salt lake city

i'm uh about to start season two. I watched season one. I'm behind on my Real Housewives. And I know, look, Anna, Superdude Anna is always like, did you watch Jen run from the feds yet? I'm like, no, I haven't gotten there yet. But I would love to see it. Love to see it. But yes, it's on the docket. Listen.

Okay. Okay. It's Marshmallow City or what? Real Housewives. Well i real housewives is actually kind of perfect second screening now that you mentioned i'm like yeah always like that's what i yeah i accidentally watched beverly hills and i was like wait what's happening yeah exactly definitely watched it i love that you do the uh below deck all that stuff it's easy it's easy it's easy uh but yeah like some of the articles that this writer at Digital Trends is saying, it's just like stuff like Terminator 2, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Anchorman.

I'm like, sure. Like those. But I think what is all being said is like, shit, you know, just down pat. So it doesn't matter. Like, you're just like, oh, yeah, here's the part where the raptors are in the kitchen hunting kids and shit in jurassic park well kb thank you so much for joining us today uh where can people find you and follow you and more importantly hear you they are so interested and i'm telling you you should be thanks so much for having me this was such a blast listen, you can find me on social media, Instagram and Twitter only, though. I am not on Facebook. The Lady KB, T-H-E-L-A-D-Y-K-A-Y-B. And you can listen to On Call with KB starting October 6th. So every Thursday, it'll be dropping weekly. Season one is about Grey's Anatomy, as I mentioned before. So join us for, you know, some Grey's talk and you can listen to it anywhere that you get your podcast. So,

you know, Pandora, Spotify, the iHeart app, Apple podcasts, wherever. So, yeah. Man. Yeah. Grey's is wild. I don't, I only, I only watch it in drips and drabs because my partner, Her Majesty is watching it currently. And I'm like, wait, why did the hospital, is wild i don't i only i only watch it in drips and drabs because my partner her majesty is watching it currently and i'm like wait why did the hospital why is it called gray sloan now what happened anyway there's a lot so many so many deaths i didn't know they were i didn't know they were i didn't know they were military doctors that some were military i didn't even know that about the show i didn't know that uh mother man there's just so much going on you know there's a lot i didn't know debbie allen was jesse's mom in it it's just so much going on. There's a lot. I didn't know Debbie Allen was Jesse's mom in it.

It's like, what is going on? So much is happening. And Miles, maybe you should be glad that they switched the character from Miles to Meredith. Because Meredith is quite literally the character that's had the most tragedy on any TV show. Yeah, I've noticed that. I think that she has had the hardest life. How come the season finale is you know it's going to be fucked up? You just know.

I mean, because Shonda created it that way. I think that she, you know, she was like, let me give y'all drama. Y'all said y'all want drama, so I'm going to give you drama. And I'm so ignorant. I'm like, I was doing the Leonardo DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood meme where he's like pointing at the fucking TV from his couch. I'm like, that's Che Diaz. And then she's like, yeah, that's what she like that. She blew up on this.

I'm like, I don't know shit. OK, I didn't know. Anyway, check that out. And what is a tweet or some other sort of social media posts that you've been liking lately, KP? Yeah. A tweet that I just recently liked is the one that said, me sending my friends encouraging messages, even though my life is a hot mess too. That pretty much sums it up. Life is a lifing currently. Yeah. Seriously. you know, like all the encouraging messages, like, yes, girl, you got this. You got this. Keep climbing. You know, meanwhile, I'm in bed. Try and find the wisdom. Try and find the wisdom in it. There's wisdom in everything, but look for it. Don't run away from it. That's yes. Yes. Have to find it. So, you know, meanwhile, I'm like, Ooh, my life is lifing, but you know what?

There will always be something positive on the other side. Just have to get to it. Exactly. Daniel, thank you so much for kicking it with me the last couple of days. Where can will always be something positive on the other side just have to message exactly daniel thank you so much for kicking it with me the last couple days where can people find you and follow you and what's a social post you've been liking oh geez you can find me all over the internet at dj underscore d-a-n-l since today is friday you can find me on twitch at twitch.tv slash dj underscore d-a-n-l i'll be there playing ghost of tsushima as part of daniel's backlog where i go through all of the single-player games that I haven't finished.

Wow. You're not going to ask me to... Wow. You're doing Ghost of Tsushima? Wow. You're not getting your black and east friend on that? Wow. There's nobody. It's just me in the game. Wow. I don't put the dub on. You know I got

that straight Japanese, no subtitles, baby, in Kurosawa modeawa mode damn you are going to be upset at how i'm playing it the dub don't you better not be uh anyway we're moving on so my my tweet that i like is from l was a mistake at unintention l date so you Me. Yeah, I make a mean bruschetta. Bruschetta. What up, little bitch boy? I make a mean one. Oh, man. Make a mean bruschetta.

Let's see. Some tweets I like from New York Times pitch bot at Doug J. Balloon. They always do fake New York Times headlines. This one is opinion. I was a lifelong liberal Democrat. Then I saw a baby give money to a drag queen. And now I'm a Nazi, which feels about right. Another one, Travis view at Travis underscore view tweeted my top issues. This election are simple. Women's collegiate

swimming, the race of fantasy characters and historical flutes, because it seems like a lot of people have all their opinions wrapped up in that nonsense. You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. You can also find me and Jack on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, our weekly basketball podcast. You can find me on

420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where guess what? We smoking that loud and talking 90 Day Fiance. The only way you can talk about that. However, you can also find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our

footnotes. Footnotes? Wow. Caught you lacking, bro. Wow. I was literally looking at the notes. Real Friday kind of vibes from Danny J. Daniels. You're right. I slipped on real Friday kind of vibes from NJ Daniels. It is Friday kind of vibes. You're right. I slipped on that one.

Well, we link off to all the articles we talked about, as well as the song we're going to write out on. And we are going to write out on this group, Los Kenya, which has a TV called Record NTV. And they are basically, from what I'm understanding, like it's from an album that I believe is called Siempre Afro Latino. understanding like uh it's from an album that i believe is called siempre afro latino and this is a venezuelan like kind of 60s salsa fusion group it's dope it's dope okay you're gonna like this this is like just this about like this is a group this guy formed and i i really should have to say less this is just good weekend vibes for you to take into the weekend. All right. So until Monday,

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