The Daily Zeitgeist - LOCKDOWNniversary, Cocaine Bear Is A Thing 3.11.21

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

In episode 829, Jack and Miles are joined by Bechdel Cast's Caitlin Durante to discuss the one year anniversary of Tom Hanks catching coronavirus and the NBA shut down, Trump being investigated by Georgia prosecutor, the GOP coming for the covid relief bill, religion and politics, the new movie Cocaine Bear, Avatar coming to movies in China, and more!FOOTNOTES: Rita Wilson Marks Anniversary Of Her And Husband Tom Hanks Contracting Covid-19 One Year Later, Rudy Gobert Is at Peace. And Thriving. Exclusive: Georgia prosecutor probing Trump taps leading racketeering attorney Scott Wildly (And Falsely) Claims COVID Relief Bill Will Hurt Poor Families Amid Scattered GOP Response America Without God Cocaine Bear: the must-see and must-avoid movie of 2022 'Avatar' to Get Surprise Re-Release in China (Exclusive) Maybe Everyone Wants to Go Back to Movie Theaters After All? ‘Avatar’ Rerelease In China Is Not Just About Dethroning ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Avatar Backlash In China Why Did China Kill 'Avatar'? LISTEN: DeeDONTCARE - How We_Du It.[105.25] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Condensed milk, some egg yolks Come on, this is no joke Meringue or some whipped cream Miles, this is my dream Ooh, I wanna eat me up some key lime pie That's what I wanna try Get me some key lime pie That is courtesy of official dickhead

At Abstrusal And I am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Miles Gray, which is You're a Miles Gray And you smoke too much Cause you hit the dab brick all day. You can rely on a THC, honey. You can rely on a THC, honey.

Okay, thank you to Hank Scipio. Scipio, however you want to put that down. But I love a good little Hall & Oates. Subtly one of my favorite vocal performances of yours. That was beautiful. I mean, there's something about when you when you have to become daryl hall it brings something out of you and i've i've i mean i have stories about this what things i've done at hall and oats shows yes i've gone out of body

and been like the youngest person where people were like circling around being like go off young man and sing this shit sing i can't go for that with all the movements wait you were singing like so loud at a concert this is outside lands the that music festival up in the golden gate park i dude i was so drunk but so stoked to see hall and oats and i was dragging my friends like, we're going to go see them. So I'm like, I'm going to Hall & Oates. And I'm in tears like singing. And it was just a whole vibe. And shout out to Daryl Hall. That sounds like a whole ass vibe. It is. It's 100% an entire vibration, as we say in the scientific community. There's a elderly gentleman who is always sort of taking over at least my experiences of concerts at the Hollywood Bowl. He has like he just like does this weird interpretive dance right next to the stage the

whole time. I don't know. I always admire that somebody who's willing to just make the concert their own. Hey, Miles, we are fortunate, thrilled to be joined by the brilliant, the talented, the hilarious Caitlin Durante! Wow, it's me. And you know that I would not come on this show if I didn't have another anagram of my name. Oh, no. I'm not ready so this jack this also

comes from at abstrusal okay i don't think i've i've shared this one before uh so brace yourself for caitlin dorante anagramming to alien taint crud alien tank crud wow yes they're so evocative what is wrong with your name it's like your name is like it's like uh like lost or something like we i can't explain this collection of letters and the powers that it has to be so malleable well um official dickhead who who came up with this, shared a whole slew of these. Let me open up my doc, because I have an Anagrams Google Doc, of course. Runic tit and ale. Unclean, arid tit. Annual tit cider.

Uncle Taint Raid. Nail. Wait, wait. Uncle what? Uncle Taint Raid? Uncle Taint Raid. Nail. Wait, wait. Uncle what? Uncle Taint Raid? Uncle Taint Raid? That's so good. That sounds like a very weird genre of porn.

Stop the count. Oh my God. Uncle Taint Raid. Opening for Uncle Cracker. Old Uncle Taint Raid. And then he like gives you a little grab under your... Oh God. I know.

Problematic uncle. Wait, there's more. Nail Crude Taint Raid, and then he gives you a little grab under your... I know. Wait, there's more. Nail Crude Taint, Lauren Taint Acne, Urine Clad Taint, I remember that one. I feel like that was one of the last ones I remembered. Lunar Taint Dice, Alien Taint Crad, Unclean Tit Raid,

and an Iced Lunar Tit. And then Abstrusal also said, unclean tit raid and an iced lunar tit so and then um also said yes they all seem to be about taints tits and urine I mean the holy trinity of uh of things that

a name can anagram to lunar tit dice um it's unbelievable how many uh Oh my god. Lunar tit dice. It's unbelievable how many just dirty and evocative things your name anagrams to. Of course,

nine tit Dracula being Nine tit Dracula, that's one of my proudest. Latin dancer UTI. Nine tit Dracula. I think we have not a new like nothing's ever gonna defeat those but we might have a couple new entries in the Hall of Fame

Jesus What's a Holy shit What is that even? The wild thing is like they'd be really interesting abstract art pieces. This piece is called Lunar Tit Dice. And what I did here was sort of playing with the female mammary glands along with the gaming cubes of dice in a moon context.

And that was the inspiration for this so basically so all any any visual artists out there you have all these wonderful names for pieces and i expect or it's it's aliens on the moon uh playing silo like throwing dice but the dice are tits right oh you mean the aliens that have taint crud yeah the ones that are have cruddy old taint yeah and, and they're playing for taint crud. So this is like a Norman Rockwell piece that's making itself possible right now. All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

But first, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. It is the one-year anniversary of the world shutting down. So I just went back through looked at some emails that were sent on that day listened to the episode we dropped on that day just to put myself back in that mind frame uh i'm wearing jeans in honor of the before times oh no jeans are violence jeans are violence jeans are violence they are but i mean it's the same as like people dressing up in old-timey clothes to honor i don't know i guess so yeah it's our violence they are but i mean it's the same as like people dressing up in old

timey clothes to honor i don't know yeah i guess so yeah it's a recreate it's a historical recreation can you imagine that's what we do from now on like everyone dresses like a slob it's like hey man it's 3 11 put on your what you used to wear in public rather than your sweatsuits um so we'll talk about that uh we'll talk about how Donald Trump might just get hit with the Rico. We'll talk about a new article that says modern America might be replacing God with politics, might be replacing religion with politics. And just that being kind of an interesting framework to view the modern uh our modern condition through uh we'll talk about covet relief we'll talk about elizabeth banks's new movie uh which is called is this an anagram for something no uh it's called

cocaine bear yes straight up yeah uh all right we'll talk about that we'll talk about avatar It's called Cocaine Bear? Yes. Straight up. Hell yeah. All right. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Avatar, heading back to movie theaters in China, and all of that, plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? about who you are or what you're up to? I just Googled tubal ligation recovery because I am next week having my tubes tied. Please and thank you. Yeah.

Please and thank you. So kids are off the table, huh? Kids are off the table, yes. Every medical professional that i've talked to about this i was like hey i would like i don't want children they're like oh what have you seen the world it's awesome right now you don't want to bring someone into this or they assume that i've already had children so So they're like, oh, how many children do you already have? And I'm like, zero. And they're like, I'm sorry, what? Did you mean two? Do you mean how much money you have as well but um yeah i i am childless and i will be childless

from here on out um thanks to my tubes getting all tied up what's the um so what is the recovery like is it a pretty sort of uh severe procedure or not too bad no it's um it's i'm pretty sure outpatient so uh i'll be able to go home the same day. I think I'll just like have some, I can't like lift heavy boxes for a couple weeks after. What are you going to do then? What are you going to do with your time? I don't know, Jack. You're psychic of box lifting.

So yeah, it's pretty pretty it's minimally invasive. I think it's it's a pretty easy recovery. But I didn't totally know until I Googled it. What was your sort of path to because I'm sure, you know, thinking of like our own like our mortality and that like evolutionary itch that some most humans have to procreate? What was your path to this moment? So I've known since I was a child that I did not want to have children, which is, again, very, people are like, but you have a uterus. Don't you want to use it? And no, thanks, I really don't.

In fact, I'd like to get rid of it entirely, but couldn't figure out a way or like no i surgeons won't be like yeah have a hysterectomy apropos of nothing um so so the next best thing basically was to get um my tubes tied but yeah i just i've always known that i don't want to be a parent and i you know i was like on birth control for a long time and i was like i don't know if i just like want to be on because i mean not to get into some gory family history or anything like that but um my mom was on birth control like in her 40s and it gave her a blood clot in her leg so i was like i don I don't want to like, yeah, from like adolescence to like into my like forties or whatever,

be on like hormonal birth control. So I was like, you know what? Let's just chop, chop me up down there. Is that how you lit up? You communicated it to the doctor? You're like,

why don't we just chop it up? Just by the way you're expressing this i may say you're not the best candidate for this procedure just uh just damn it up huh let's do it well good i mean good for you i'm just must feel good to take that power into your hands and and be able to finally have that decision and feel liberated from like having to you know have other forms of birth control and shit it feels so good especially because i mean i've been exploring this for several years and every doctor i talked to they're like well you won't find a surgeon if you don't already have children you won't find a surgeon who will do this procedure unless until you're like 35 and guess who's about to turn 35 hey there we go people know about the turning 26 being able to rent a car very few people know that uh doctors won't give you autonomy over your own

body until you turn 35 what the fuck what's the even the reason like you're at risk for being younger they're like no but you'll regret it probably it is yeah that's it it's literally the patriarchy they just assume that if i if you have a uterus you're going then you're a baby making factory and that's your only life goal um so yeah there's no the only legality is that you have to be i, 18 or older and of sound mind. And that's like, those are the legal stipulations, but so many doctors don't follow that. And they say, well, you're going to change your mind or you just haven't met the right man yet

or like any number of like really like heteronormative. I'm sorry you had to even like deal with that when you're trying to make a real decision on your own behalf and they're like well let me just throw all this bullshit that you you've considered this and don't give a fuck about therefore you're here okay but just in case you know maybe prince charming will come along oh and then i can't wait for like the day after my surgery to meet my prince charming and then oh my oh no i'm gonna change my mind i know now you got a sick rom-com to write oh yeah yeah exactly called all tied up and it has so many meanings because i'm like tied up romantically right my but you're also like liberated because you're not tethered to

birth control you're not tethered to the expectation of motherhood i mean it's it's i mean guys that's why i leave it to you someone with a master's in screenwriting i do have yeah i was just gonna say if only we had somebody who was a master's a master of screenwriting i didn't want to be the one to bring it up because i hate to mention it of What is something you think is overrated? Okay. I think that frosting, icing, whipped cream, basically anything that you might put on like a cupcake or really any dessert of any kind. I hate it. I think it's ugh.

Wow. We're having some back-to-back dessert takes on this show. Yesterday, pie was a lie. Today, icing is all tritash, apparently. So you just want straight-up cake, if you're having a cake. I want the tiniest layer. I'm talking a millimeter layer. Put on a razor. razor of icing exactly someone will give me a cupcake that has more like taller icing top heavy yeah so i just scrape all

of that off and then whatever's like leftover is what i deem tolerable. Fantastic. Whipped cream. Okay. I feel like whipped cream should. Wow. Wait, whipped cream is disgusting? I hate it. Yeah. Wow. I mean, it must be a consistency thing because whipped cream is like less sweet than.

Yeah. So it's like they're all different flavors, right? I mean, they're all, I guess, sugar. It's just like, yeah, whipped, like sugar. I don't, but I like sugar. I like sweets and candy. But I like straight sugar with a spoon. Do you eat ice cream?

Are you a fan of ice cream? Yes. Love ice cream. Okay. But no, but you would never deign to put whipped cream on that. Disgusting. Yeah. It would ruin the whole thing for me.

I will take all your icing the next time we're around each other and eating cupcakes. You just give me the icing. I'll double it up. Yeah. Then your wife's going to be like, stop giving Jack icing or whatever the fuck you guys are doing when he's out of the house. What is happening? All his teeth are loose. Oh, man.

I love icing. You got a little icing bucket you like to take little nips from on the side of your bed? Yeah. Most people don't notice, but I just occasionally reach out of the Zoom and pull in a handful of icing. We notice because your face is pink and blue. Right. You do, but the listeners aren't aware. Right. And our guests have

to be uncomfortable and polite throughout that yeah we have to sign an nda yeah i'm texting them on the side please just ignore this if if you bring it up it's going to derail the entire show so let's just keep this moving yeah i'm not comfortable unless my uh lips are uh crystalline with uh macy, which is something I noticed on my son the other day. Caitlin, what is something you think is underrated? I think that fake houseplants are underrated. They're getting good.

Right, they're getting good. And as much as I, I mean, I think that real houseplants are also underrated, but I. Which one though? Real house plants of Orange County or real house plants of New Jersey? One of us was going to make that joke. I prefer Atlanta. I think we all do. Candy Burris. I mean, she's a legend. Yeah, I am not able to keep real houseplants alive. So people are a little bit like, fake houseplants are tacky.

They look like shit. But they look better than the dead real ones. Right. I've encountered three fake plants recently that I've just been in a building or just stopping by someone's house to grab something and i'm like oh damn that fucking monster that shit looked good they're like it's fake or like other ones i've like brushed up against and i'm like oh this is beautiful and it's fake so i'm getting fooled on the regular by these plants like they look they

have the waxy sheen they're it's just when don't dust them, that's when I think we'll figure it out. Sometimes you get dusty ass when you're like, no, no, this is not it. You need the gloss. Yeah, they're getting really good. Even if you can keep your houseplants alive, we have one where we mix and match. We have some living ones so we can use those

as cover for the ones that are fake. But we have one that is just making the floor like within a six degree or a six foot radius just incredibly sticky and like i can't figure out why it's just the floor around a fake plant but but it's like it must be like misting out because it's not like noticeable yeah no this is a real one but it's like i'm just saying one of the one of the hazards of real plants is is that one you said you were getting to grow real big because you were watering it with maple syrup yeah is that i don't know check i would taste the floor next time jack stop feeding icing to buckets of ice but look how big it's getting yeah can't be stopped yeah zeitgang let us know

if can what's jack for your photo for the episode take a photo of the plant okay so people can so zeitgang can clock in and say what the fuck is going on with the vapor sap that's coming out of there yeah yeah but there's just like there's socks stuck to that part of the floor our kid was stuck there the other day kid missed school because he couldn't get him you can pry him off the floorboards caitlin how many fake how many do you have a lot of fake plants right now or is it something you like you're admiring from afar and you're like i think i want to get in well i just got my first one recently because i had held off for so long because i just felt so much shame around buying fake plants because people will make you feel so ashamed. And I don't know why.

No. I should have just whatever. Anyway, I got my first one. I was like, oh, this looks this is good. So now I'm going to continue to buy more. Yeah. But like, yeah, your house just smells like polyvinyl. Because it's just too many fake things.

It's a very plastic-y view. All right. Caitlin, thank you. Thank you for letting us get to know you better. We are going to take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. Hey, fam. We are going to take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man?

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store and bought like everything i could find things that i never even bought before but i was like this isn't a can so i'm gonna need it yeah right yeah and like it was just the the chaos right store and just yeah everyone was just like kind of in panic mode because no one knew what to expect it was yeah it was surreal too because i remember prior to that we in the studio we were like getting all this stuff for the studio like there was wipes everywhere we're wiping everything down and trying to make the surfaces as clean as possible and but it was almost the second it was like yeah we're gonna have to like shut everything down i it was a weird moment where i was like half ready for it but then it was sort of surreal like how

immediately i was like okay now we're in survival mode and like these are the things we have to do but then like in the process of it i was like this is this is this shit's happening right now like this is this we're in the midst of it i was listening back to the episode that dropped on march 11th last year uh 3 11 day last year and it like we open up and i'm like yeah it's weird like people are worried about the mic covers and like coming in and just talking into a mic cover that's like drenched with someone else's like breath right and i i was like talking about uh how i like sometimes find myself touching my mouth against the mic cover is just like a totally different disgusting uh reality that i at least i was operating within right we were still emailing about like all right

so we'll we'll meet on thursday in person it's it's wild man yeah how quickly things uh change is just like our understanding you know what i mean like how it was kind of like all right we'll see what happens two weeks and we'll flatten the curve right yeah oh man and then that was of course the day that we found out tom hanks tested positive and that a Utah Jazz Oklahoma City Thunder game was about to start. And then all the players left the court and they announced over the loudspeaker that the game was going to be postponed. And it was like a full stadium of people. And it was like, this is not safe. This is never going to happen again.

Was that the day also, I think, Disneyland closed? I don't know. It was like within one or two days of that also. Yeah. I mean, look, depending on where you were culturally, something happened that made it real for you. Right. Tom Hanks got it. That made it real for some people.

The NBA shutting down made it real for other people. Disneyland shutting down has definitely made it real for some people the nba shutting down made it real for other people disneyland shutting down has definitely made it real for some people yeah and now it's i'm almost suspicious about how exactly to like you know how sometimes you'll be like i had a 24-hour bug and it was like almost like the timer went off at 24 hours and you felt better. It almost feels like that's happening with the pandemic or we're trying to make that happen with the pandemic. That it's on the one-year anniversary. One of my friends who's a big sports fan was just like, I just heard that they're going to be opening

with 40,000 people in sports stadiums within four weeks for Major League Baseball, with like 40 000 people in sports stadiums within four weeks for like major league baseball which is you know seems very significant and like i wouldn't feel comfortable doing that but uh but what does the cdc know you know right what the hell do they know i trust the rangers i just think of like how the evolution of like how we were even protecting ourselves, like sort of the emotionally, psychologically from an oncoming pandemic was like, oh man, like who knows? Like, oh, it could be cool.

And then like how that slowly sort of like withered away and we're like, this is so fucked up. Like nothing of substance is coming from the government in terms of like support and where people are being fed this completely backwards narrative of that businesses need to open rather than the government needs to support people uh through this pandemic and yeah and now we're here still talking on zoom but yeah the nba thing made it real for me i'm not gonna lie i don't know why well it's what yeah because that was one thing that i feel like i had in the back of my mind that like well there's all these people in stadiums together like that's one of those things that you just see just you know on right

you can't help but see it on tv like if if you're just walking by a tv there's like stadiums full of people crowded in together and you're like well it can't be like that like if that's allowed to happen and there's not like massive outbreaks and then the fact that they were just like oh yeah this is this is a fucking terrible idea everybody run for your life announcement is like we unfortunately have to cancel today's game and get the fuck out now move calmly uh yeah that just felt very very surreal to like just see like an abrupt end to uh life as we knew it um yeah and then the struggle to remind people how we can't go back to just ignoring everything like before times it seems like there's a you know a pretty big movement

for people to kind of get on with it and just be like don't forget all the abject you know, a pretty big movement for people to kind of get on with it and just be like, don't forget all the abject, you know, strife you saw from people. It's just, I mean, we got, we can get 40,000 people into, into Dodger stadium, y'all. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about somebody who was much closer to the front of our minds back when one year ago, that is the, the guy was the president back then,

Donald Trump. There's a chance that he might just get hit with the Rico. Yeah. The racketeering. What is it? Racketeering. Racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations. I wouldn't have gotten that if

you gave me 99 tries um but yeah typically for gangsters you know what i mean like that was like the way they were able to get mobsters rounded up and other like really nefarious crimes but so we've talked about how the da fanny willis um in georgia is going for the throat you know to the point where the state Senate in Georgia tried to like change the laws to be like, you can't impanel a jury like in the county because it would be too diverse and not pro-Trump enough. But they missed their opportunity for that. And now, well, we're finding out like, so what's going on?

Because clearly most of it is all kicking around that call where he's like, find me 12,000 votes. I can now so I can overturn the will of the people. And that call and many other events are now like, you know, factoring into this investigation. But the biggest thing we just heard is that there's this inclusion of an attorney named John Floyd to the prosecution team. And he is known as the racketeering expert. He literally wrote the guide on how to pursue state racketeering charges. And Willis, Fannie Willis has mentioned like racketeering charges before, like in passing.

And it wasn't really connecting because we're mostly thinking like this is election fraud. Like what does racketeering have to do with it? But that's because Georgia has broader racketeering laws that basically seem to describe everything that trump and his little gang did um so they're saying if she pursues racketeering charges she will need to quote prove a pattern of corruption by trump alone or with his allies aimed at overturning the election results to stay in power and And Georgia statute defines racketeering more broadly to include false statements made to state officials. So it's looking pretty rough.

I mean, just to kind of give you some background, like racketeering charges happen a lot more often in Georgia than you'd realize. And the last time like Willis and floyd you know collabed was six years ago when there was that school when school officials were falsifying standardized test scores to try and make the georgia education system looking like more robust than it actually was they got them all on racketeering charges they get like this duo seems to really get racketeering shit done so i think a lot lot of legal people are like, this is very interesting because once they prove, I think, two violations within this RICO statute, it's going to be hard to say otherwise.

But you never know with this country. So I don't know. Every time I'm like, they got them. Yeah. exist yeah on the other hand trump's defense team is probably going to be full of some crackerjack uh you know lawyers like rudy giuliani and uh no he he might be fun yeah i mean it's bad because if you think of all the people man it's not just him it is rudy you know it is lindsey graham it is this you can point to this pattern of corruption, of people leaning on other officials and then of like spouting falsehoods. Yeah. I remember total landscaping for seasons.

It's it's like really it's I don't know. It's comforting to be like, oh, this might be a really good pursuit of justice here. But then at the same time, like I keep saying, there's like two or three legal systems depending on who you are so yeah yeah yeah well big news that uh came through yesterday is that the uh relief package was passed and so now it is time for uh republicans to figure out uh how to spin uh actual like concrete uh relief for people who are struggling as a bad thing uh yeah let's see how they do why why do this as a sport to like it's objectively a thing to help people in a pandemic so the takes are all over the place From the right Rick Scott from Florida said Who hurts

Jesus Quote who hurts Who hurts gets hurt I don't know what that means Who hurts What does this sentence mean Who hurts gets hurt Poor families

It's very conversational and confusing So poor families are the ones who will be uh fucked over by help apparently they're not helping poor families with this they're hurting poor families please point to how that works because every study talks about how these stimulus bills will lift people out of poverty on some level. Obviously, so much more could be done. But to say that this hurts poor people or poor families, absurd. Right. Finish your state.

Like, what? How? Like, what? Right. You can't just make a statement and then be like, but that is true. I don't have to back it up. Well, that is. That's the way.

Yeah. That's being a politician for the most part. And it's true. I don't have to back it up. Well, that's the way. That's being a politician for the most part. It's being like, that's what I said. Don't follow up or else I'm going to say you're harassing me. Okay. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy called this during a debate on the bill. He said it's a socialist laundry list of left-wing priorities. Okay.

Helping people. Sounds good to me. me what are you saying what are you saying kev let me know in the comments uh representative marjorie green described this as quote massive woke progressive democrat wish list and then mitt romney just went with all reliable which was we shouldn't be spending any monies ever on people. So that was at least more consistent. But I don't understand. Like this, this bill has bipartisan support. Like 59% of Republicans have realized that they are human beings that need help from the federal government and are supporting this bill.

But even if a majority of your voters, it's like it's just so odd. I don't even know what to do. They're just so hooked on like these woke attacks and socialist attacks man they they get so concerned and not just republicans even the mainstream media gets so concerned about spending and the federal deficit whenever a democrat is in power but they do not give a fuck whenever a republican is usually because the republican is fucking up so many other things that that's just not a priority and i think they also understand that like that's not a priority for a lot of the readers right it's like well that's that's not the worst thing they're doing that's not the thing that's going to resonate with people. But with Democrats, it just, it always becomes spending too much, guys.

Can't add to that huge deficit number because then. I mean, ignore the last couple of years, but I'm working, which, intellectually bankrupt, like to just be like, it's a laundry list of woke agenda items. Okay. But you're not, no one is actually going for the substance of it, which is why I'm like, that's probably why 59 of republicans are on board because this shit isn't even like appealing to them you know what i mean like because on some level they're like they can recognize a helping hand when it's offered but this their attempt to try and completely be like no guys humanity is overrated come over here with the ignorant racist squad like the irs got you uh it's i don't know we'll

see we'll see how much longer like this happens until like it starts getting old even for their own audience all right uh i i just read an article that introduced me to a concept that i wanted to kind of talk through with you guys see what you guys's thoughts are so the the idea is called the law of conservation of religion um there's a political theorist called samuel goldman who observed this as basically a law that more or less there's a constant level of religious fervor in us in any society and it just changes like in terms of where and how it's expressed. So there's just a... It makes sense from a standpoint of when you look back

at human history, the constant throughout, no matter what point in history you're looking at, there is a need for religion among people like it's just it's not like one person lying and uh and then like tricking everybody and it just seems like there is an organic need for people uh for a certain number of people to to believe in a religion that like takes them out of the day-to-day and like the the real-time concerns of being a human basically so yeah that basically this theory that this uh writer for the atlantic is making the point that you can kind of view America as transferring its religious fervor from religion over to politics

over the past. Basically he says 1998 was the year that religious kind of commitment and belief started dropping. religious kind of commitment and belief started dropping uh and now we're at a place where a lot of the same sort of ideals and practices uh are being practiced in the political landscape and i i feel like it wasn't right at 98 i feel like there was a techno-utopian kind of 15 years there where we were like, okay, we're going to put our religious fervor into building this separate reality where everybody's connected on the web. And then suddenly we kind of realized that was not what was happening on the web. Sinful, you know. We should have been connecting with the Holy Spirit.

Thank you. That's what I was saying. Anyways, that's my point is just like, let's get back to the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Come on, guys. We're losing sight of things, huh? Yeah, you want to log on?

Log on to God. Yeah. Caitlin, I'm really hoping once you connect with the Holy Spirit, you will rethink the procedure you're about to take. Consider the Holy Spirit and adding more Christians to this earth, please, for the sake of Christ, for the sake of his mercy. You're absolutely right. My duty is to just have millions of babies. To honor Christ with my uterus. honor christ with my uterus um yeah i mean is this because now we're seeing there's a lot of reports too about how now evangelical christianity is fusing with q anon and how that is becoming a

really dangerous combination because like in that same way if it's religious fervor i mean facts don't fucking apply you're fucking with a different energy source at that point yeah i mean that's he the author would kind of and let me find his name but the author would basically see this at that as part of this overall trend uh right his point is that like from 1937 to 1998 church membership remained relatively constant at about 70 percent in america which is very uncommon for like a wealthy uh democracy uh and then over the past two decades that number has dropped to less than 50 percent uh which is the sharpest recorded decline in american history and meanwhile the like atheist agnostics and those claiming no religion have grown to represent a quarter of the population. And so it's not it's not like the entire society has like gone away from religion. It's just that there is now a much larger portion of the population that is looking for that thing that they can kind of sublimate themselves to and like feel relief from the day to day and this author's perspective is basically that if this continues in this direction we're

in a bad way because uh politics is a terrible it's a terrible substitute for religion in the article he points out that like religion is about distancing yourself from the temporal world and like all the imperfection of day to day life and it's also about like conferring

final judgment and like ultimate judgment to another time, uh, another being that like you don't have control over. And this new kind of form of religion like brings that judgment like down into like the here and now. And that's where you're getting like the QAnon where it's like our political

opponents are evil and demonic demonic exactly and he also makes the point that like some of the cancel culture things are you know part of like he he uses wokeness in quotes a bunch and talks about like cancel culture being part of like sort of in line with like excommunication and the sort of thing that you see in religious cultures uh which you know it's in the atlantic so it's uh it's it's more with an accent yeah read it with an accent exactly um but it i don't know it is just an interesting way to kind of look at our current moment and a lot of the things that we're trying to explain that are that are new to our culture, like QAnon, like the political violence that we're starting to see. Or like celebrity worship, too. You know what I mean?

we're starting to see or like celebrity worship too you know what i mean because that's another version where you're replacing like well fuck religion but like i'll buy everything uh kendall jenner puts out or kylie jenner puts out and like sort of this lack of self-awareness like hyper consumption culture too which in a way is like its own you know religion um that people are so like caught up in that you can't see sort of the realities of, of your world because your church is like, you know, the drip.

Right. And like showing out on your social media too. So yeah, it's interesting to see. And like, I'm sure those people would be like, Oh, I'm not religious at all.

But like, I must post three times a day looking sick as fuck. Right. I mean, I am not religious at all i grew i was like raised in a very secular atheist household and now i've turned to paddington um so i like i i agree with the just i mean the general need for for humans to sound like an alien for humans. For the human.

To understand Paddingtonian theory. I mean, my perspective on religion is that it, I think, just generally provides some sense of just kind of comfort and way to understand the world around us. and way to understand the world um around us i feel like well i don't want to say too much for fear of uh everyone yelling at me but i'm gonna i'll need i need like a day to collect my thoughts on this but i guess so i'll just conclude by saying um long live paddington no what do you what do you take umbrage with exactly i mean the shift from like like following a religion to i guess more following a political ideology i don't yeah i guess but i think that has more to do with just our advances in society and culture and science that a lot of people are just, they're like, well, religion isn't like, I don't know. I found this other thing that explains more than the Bible called science and Wikipedia. You should check this shit out, man.

The moon is something else yeah i like yeah i would need a whole i need to like i need several days to yeah but you're saying it's not as simple as now because that's happening it's just it's flowing to another thing sort of immediately yeah and then also like i feel like a lot of people's political alignment is informed by their religion so i mean first i mean for some people um obviously not everyone but i don't know i'm just i i think this is just like i guess it's an interesting take that i don't really get hey uh so the author uh shadi hamid is a contributing writer at the atlantic uh as i mentioned but he's also a singer fellow at the brookings institution hey so what is that in the building that's like very uh neolib um establishment establishment angel investor type shit

I feel like it's an interesting thought experiment at the very least we are witnessing a phenomenon at the very least of this combination melding of the two into this other thing or like maybe it's

part of the American religious evolution is that naturally you know they're going from people who uh just were trying to have their values in their churches to now being like we want this for all of you yeah um because that's sort of the that's sort of what is happening is they're using biblical law as they see it from their religion to try and put that into it like in the laws of our country as well by just saying like oh yeah no abortion no no we're not going to do that or other things that will feel our counter to our religion like uh anything having to do with the lgbtq community

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would know from many a 90s movie. The Hunger Games would be our younger listeners would probably recognize her from. Her latest movie is called Cocaine Bear.

Is that really? I'm looking at her imdb filmography and they might be using a different name for it uh really under director yeah under director they've uh yeah maybe i don't know or they're just i think it no it hasn't gone into production yet got it so maybe they are um waiting to actually like fully fully announce that got it but anyway yeah she's got the she's got the new movie coming out and i thought cocaine bear was like okay maybe this would be a hilarious comedy uh and maybe or a really ridiculous film some it's a fucking true story about a bear that ate a bunch of cocaine in the 80s and died so i was like okay

so it's a short movie but the whole thing is they say in december 1985 a bear was walking around the chattahoochee aconi national forest in georgia minding its own business made up when it found 40 plastic bags of cocaine worth 15 million dollars ate them and then died the medical examiner who performed an autopsy on the bear said the cause of death was uh cerebral hemorrhaging respiratory failure hyperthermia renal failure heart failure stroke you name it the bear had it its stomach was quote literally packed to the brim with cocaine end quote there wasn't a mammal on the planet who could survive that that makes me feel so bad yeah that is very sad i'm

also wondering what our plot is here right well as a screenwriter let me tell you what i would do what's the inciting incident when the coke falls on the bear's head from the sky right um oh i'm also seeing here that um you i'm looking at a hollywood reporter article universal is behind cocaine bear which is based on an untitled spec script so yeah i think they probably just are like untitled cocaine bear project right but i think they should just keep the the title oh absolutely bear why not i mean so the the origin story i think that's what the film will probably center around how that blow got to the bear got it and it turns out that it was a man named Andrew Thornton who was like a corrupt narcotics cop who then transitioned to international drug smuggling kingpin.

Amazing how those things happen sometimes. And so it all happened when one day he was doing, I guess, a massive transport of cocaine and there's some engine trouble occurred. And so he got spooked and started dumping as much of the blow out the plane's doors as he could. And that's when I think the shit got into the forest where the bear got to it. And then he tried to jump out with a parachute. But unfortunately, he was holding 70 pounds of cocaine cocaine a ton of cash and guns that the weight was fucked up and his his shoot didn't deploy properly because the load was too much and then he died and they've discovered him literally like with next to a 70 pound pilot blow with guns and

like money dead in the forest wow still not sure what the meaning like what how do we center the bear in this maybe the cocaine bear was inside all of us all along like cocaine here's what I would do I would really take a lot of liberties with the story and

do some pretty major world building where the bear comes upon the cocaine eats it and then rather than dies a tragic death um develops superpowers right and then becomes a superhero bear a super bear yeah i mean the spec script was actually written by the bear before it died of a cocaine overdose so that might it was etched into a tree trunk with his claws and then i'm thinking man like maybe story oh yeah man and i can see fucking so good at night now so then i get night vision and then yeah i mean unfortunately and i launched three

restaurants in the yeah some sick underground bear speakeasies yeah i i'm yeah i like world building i would like some world building around there i just the i get i mean like the story of this andrew thornton person seems fine but i mean what of this bear like i think i think the movie would be great if the entire film is about the bear and the last shot is the cocaine coming down from the sky so So it's just the bear, that movie, where it's like following a bear around the forest? Yeah, yeah. Or that one movie with Danny DeVito, Jack the Bear. Wasn't that one with Danny DeVito? Oh, wow.

I thought I knew my bear movies. I thought that was a porn, Jack the Bear. That's a different one. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. This is the Marshall Herskovitz director. Could also be Brother Bear, that Disney vehicle from the early 2000s that we all know and love. Maybe it's The Revenant.

Right. Brother Bear from The Revenant? Yeah. The Revenant could be... I don't know, time travel? Yeah, it's just going through different movies like in its own mind because it's so again it's and we're still talking about a

fucking animal that ingested 40 pounds of cocaine and it's a mess its body was a mess it's wild how quickly the bear because cocaine is I can't imagine it tastes good to bears

but it very quickly was like holy shit I gotta get more you know oh man I don't wanna I'm coming down bro yeah yeah 40 pounds worth how about it unless maybe it was cut with like

NutraSweet or Sweet and Low. Yeah. Or like Baby Laxative. Baby Laxative. Yeah. I think, I mean, this is Elizabeth Banks' third film. Well, actually, no.

She's directed a few things. But I'm really curious to see how this all turns up. Like, it's compelling in that it's so vague, but has these odd specifics. And I'm like, where can we go with this? Guide me, cocaine bear. That is a wild true story. I mean, it could literally go in so many directions. Did you see Robert Evans' tweet about it?

No. He said, this is the only movie we have needed since fury road so thank you oh yeah all right well speaking of the early 2000s avatar is heading back when did avatar come out was that early 2000s probably later that was 2009 right okay eight or nine eight or nine the late aughts uh avatar as we've discussed it's it feels like avatar didn't necessarily have the impact on the cultural consciousness that a lot of other movies did at at least at first. It felt like a movie that never happened, even though it was, for a time,

the most successful movie of all time. And kicked off all 3D everything. Right. But all 3D after Avatar was bad. And so it was just like, eh. So China's film bureau has approved a surprise plan for avatar to get a wide re-release uh on friday it's like coming out now and that is kind of big news because in addition to having been pretty popular there was also an attempt to kind of shut it down like once it was at peak popularity

they like started taking it out of theaters uh and putting out like more uh i guess china focused movies there was a confucius biopic that they like put out in a bunch of theaters instead of avatar like to try to artificially like control the culture and make it less like western oh wow and uh the confucius biopic flopped big time no so there's like was it that racist sketch with chris farley from snl it was uh starring chow young fat uh oh chow young fat was confucius i believe so yeah is he like shooting guns yeah exactly john woo confucius biopic yeah so there there's probably going to be like a bunch of excess demand it was a huge deal back in 2009 people waited in line for hours some people paid a hundred dollars per ticket to see avatar whoa and it was not worth it yeah it was such a phenomenon that a local official renamed part

of the yellow mountains after the floating mountains in the movie but weren't they inspired by those mountains too i think so yeah like i felt like james cameron was like or maybe it was there vietnam or somewhere but very much okay cool yeah so that'll be interesting i mean uh you know as we've discussed in previous episodes the chinese box office has now completely surpassed the american box office it had a record-setting day for a movie earlier this year i mean the all the economists forecasts are seeming are pretty spot on from the 80s and 90s when they're saying china will be the biggest uh you know economic powerhouse by 2020 2021 and now yeah like because their movies are even like movies that aren't that great are just blowing out end game for numbers. Right. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so maybe Avatar will have its chance to have more of a cultural impact.

But wait, we still haven't heard about the sequels and shit. When is that happening? What is going on there? Didn't he release a teaser or something? I feel like I've read that somewhere. I've not been paying attention. The only... I mean, it's Titanicanic or nothing i don't care

you are a cameronian uh film scholar i am and i do really like terminator and terminator 2 aliens is a great movie oh my goodness um yeah but so i just i've i think he needs to shift his focus from all these avatar sequels to some Titanic sequels. Yeah. I'd honestly watch a Titanic. I'm just interested in it conceptually. I'm like, okay, you're doing a sequel? I don't even know what the fuck that would be, but I like it.

It would just be about James Cameron diving to look at the Titanic. I feel like you could do just another person's story on the Titanic. Focus on not Jack and rose but or anyone we've covered because they would they would have aged i mean danny nucci does not look the same anymore as fabrizio he looks even better these days yeah i used it's funny i know his sister and the day i found out that her brother was danny nucci like it blew my mind i'm like fabrizio i'm like the dude from crimson tide that's your brother oh my god the rock he's in the rock he's in everything baby danny was winning oh yeah shout out to the anniversary of his wife did she pass away march 9th again according to the

head it was march 9th yeah in the rock yes barbara hummel his wife from okay do you remember in the rock where um i thought we were talking about danny nucci's wife no like why are we being so gleeful about this woman passing away no ed harris's character in the rock right before he takes over the island he goes to the graveyard where his wife is buried but the tombstone it just says barbara hummel but at the top it just says his wife all aggressively and like i when i did the episode the first episode of beck del cast i did was we were talking about the rock and we just could not get over though his wife barbara hummel even though this motherfucker's not buried it's just still his whose wife right wow which like everyone will be like that's standard like military cemetery yeah we know it's just so fun it's jarring as fuck to see though that is wild that that is

just must be defined through husband his wife um cool uh well caitlin it's been such a pleasure having you as always thank you so much where can people find you and follow you you can follow me on uh twitter and instagram at caitlin dorante and you know scoot on over to my website, katelyndurante.com, for information about upcoming screenwriting classes that I have because I use my master's degree in screenwriting that I, again, hate to mention to impart my knowledge to other people in my classes. Right. So, yeah, that's...

And alumni of your screenwriting courses have written such films as Cocaine Bear. Very proud. Titanic, another one. Not the dialogue, just the overall... Yeah. Yes. The dialogue for Titanic,

when it was happening, I couldn't believe it was happening. I was just like that. James Cameron is not a good screenwriter. He's not good at writing how people talk. Yeah, just stop with the coked out idea and then let a screenwriter be like, oh, that's an interesting idea, James. I will take it from here, though. Just no, shut up about that other shit, please.

And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, I'll shout out Solomon Giorgio, who recently tweeted, my greatest fear is showing up anywhere and having to do something. Yep. I do not. Relatable.

And that's where we're headed, it seems like. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, miles of gray,

um, getting into destiny too. Didn't think I would like the game, but it's kind of tight. Um, also the other podcast for 20 day fiance talking 90 day. So check that out and hit up the Twitch streams, the party,

some tweets that I like. First one is from Amelia Elizalde at Amelia Elizalde tweets. You should be able to get buried alive, but just for an hour to rest. That's kind of cool. Another one from at Yodoye underscore tweeting. I was just about done with skating and then i landed a pop shove it while demonstrating that i've never landed one why is life like this that's fucked up see because that just keep believing in yourself you do it uh and then another one is from lariel simone at

lariel simone tweets there's a ptsd that comes from being poor that nobody talks about when you start getting money and boy ain't that the truth they're the thinking will it all be gone will i be back to having no money that's just a that tweet i think resonated with a lot of people especially if you were anyone uh millennial or gen z when you thought you were about to start your life out of college and you're like where's the where the job's at uh there is a tweet i was enjoying from eve forward uh to sign on a like uh custodial door that says refuse to be stored in black plastic sacks and placed in the containers provided. But it looks like refused to be stored in the black plastic sacks. She wrote, rage, rage against the dying

of the light. Refused to be stored in the plastic sacks. Do not go into that plastic sack. Yes, yes. You can find me on Twitter, liking tweets like that, at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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But it's a remix by the producer D don't care um and you know this one's gonna be on it's gonna be on SoundCloud because this one's one of those remixes that just goes too hard the labels be like no this is too much too much fire so check this one out it's how we do it and it's you do is spelled d u uh so if you're looking for it there check that out or it'll be in the food notes. Yeah, you can just get it in the show notes. You can click on it. You'll go right to it. You can hear it. The Daily Zeitgeist

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