The Daily Zeitgeist - Look, We'll Baha That Blast When We Get To It 6/22: Rachel Zegler, 'Karen', Steven Crowder, IKEA, Ben Simmons

Episode Date: June 22, 2021

In this edition of We'll Baha That Blast When We Get To It, Jack and Miles discuss Rachel Zegler, the new 'Karen' movie, debate-bro Steven Crowder, IKEA's Juneteenth menu, and everyone being mean to Ben Simmons Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of, look, we'll Baja that blast when we come to it. That is courtesy of, it's an idiomatic phrase, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Oh. All right. Pick last in zeit class, doing the work out here you know uh we'll buy how that blast last floor continues yes uh i'm jack you're miles i am all right that's been this episode uh no uh you are i believe thank you i think just one more time just making sure

just checking in with myself yes Yes. That's me. And we got a lot of hot trendies to talk about. Let's kick it off with Rachel Zegler, who is somebody. She was just cast as Snow White in the Lab Action remake of Snow White. She's also Maria in the upcoming West Side Story. And the only thing that we've been able to see her in other than the trailer for West Side Story is that like viral video of her audition or, you know. Yeah. So. I think it is, yeah.

An audition like in her bathroom. Has there ever been somebody who's like had this many, this much like iconic work? somebody who's like had this many this much like iconic work she's also in the shazam sequel which a lot of people are looking forward to uh who's like not been in anything yet but is just like they've anointed her yeah michael olua candy i was thinking like shia like he had been in stuff but like when all of a sudden it was just like oh shit man this dude must like be he's gonna be like the next tom cruise uh when he was like an abuser right but he was like in the indiana jones thing it was yeah i think there's something happens when you get in orbit of spielberg that shit can change real quick because the purely the maria role in spielberg's west side story i mean not not

this is not to discount what her actual talent is but like i'm guessing the way the industry works is they take that cue to say you're going to be in a huge spielberg film we can ride that wave to many other dollars um because you'll be sort of front of mind because i think they they suspect that this film would be a pretty big hit. So I'm wondering, I wonder if, uh, the fact that in the, nobody went and saw it in the Heights,

uh, is making them nervous about West side story. I don't know. I would just be in general. I don't, I don't know how people think about how musicals do well or not well anymore. So I'm, I don't know.

Uh, but it is like a classic. I don't think they should be nervous, but I do wonder if they're like, Ooh, yeah, I don't know uh but it is like a classic i don't think they should be nervous but i do wonder if they're like oh yeah i don't know we'll we'll see we'll see how cool it is uh but i think that really your heart goes out to all the conservatives who are going to lose their minds when they find out she's half colombian and she's playing snow White. What is going on? It's called Snow Half White, okay? The fuck?

So, yeah, I mean, that'll be cool. Keep getting those checks, Rachel. Get those checks. Yeah, seriously. I mean, and I will say, like, she seems amazingly talented in the viral video and the trailer that we've seen. I mean, yeah, she sang in her bathroom and Spielberg's like yes this is it yes that's one

that's very clear the talent is clear from this video Spielberg also just signed a big deal with Netflix which is interesting we'll see you might know Spielberg he directed Jaws at

which one's that oh yeah I know at yeah yeah jaws i think is the uh prequel to the bond villain character and then at i forget what at is about and then a etc he also did a right oh yeah i yeah i i i that was a good movie um yeah yeah Zordon there's also a new Indiana Jones movie coming out it's something I've seen like links to on the internet that I have not followed so I shouldn't be talking about it on our show uh no it's a hobbled old Harrison Ford

oh um cool It's a hobbled old Harrison Ford. Oh, cool. Karen is trending because there is a new trailer for a movie, a thriller that looks like a, it does not look good. It looks like a parody, but it has basically taken the mythical, not mythical, the omnipresent american cultural figure the karen and turned her into a horror movie villain uh-huh yeah it's they've done it yeah i don't i don't know i don't know i don't know it's uh it's i directed by coke daniels i think was the first name i saw which is that was like my drug dealer name um so okay that's cool but then it really feels like this like people have completely misunderstood like what a lot of jordan peele's work is about really finding like

the horrifying nuances of operating in white supremacy and then like creating these really compelling ways to draw people in versus literally being like dude this lady karen she's got it out for black people and she'll do anything to make their life hell and up and including up to and including death so yeah i don't know it's just, come on, come on, film mistress. It's just very, like, so on the nose in many ways. Like, she's like, you people are angry and, like, a bunch of, like, buzzwords. And she uses, like, uses the police against this black family who moves in next to her. But it's also, like, because the cop is her brother. And then there's also, she has, like like hand soap with a Confederate flag on it.

A hand soap holder with a Confederate flag on it. But then like they also, like producer Brian was pointing out, they didn't get the haircut right. Like they, so they're on the nose about like a lot of stuff. But it's like they didn't bother to even nail the stuff that should be on the nose. Right. Exactly. That's why it's just this, the lack of thinking in some of these development offices,

just being like, Oh my, it's called Karen. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not like,

let's really get to the bottom of what we're trying to say with these films, but Hey, it's a TV movie. So I'm sure it'll sure it'll do some numbers. So yeah, people will be out there. Where is it going to air on what channel? I think it's a BET movie. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So we'll see how that goes. But yeah, I think more attention should be paid to how white women are also just as aggressive in terms of their perpetrating of white supremacy as men are. And I think we have this blind spot of always looking at men as it as well. And I think there's a really good book. I think it's called The Constant Gardeners. I'll have to put the link out, but it's about the role of white women in white supremacy post the Civil Rights Act

and things like that and how they basically help steer the ship out of deracialized language to help further a white supremacist agenda and things like that. We will put the link to that in the footnotes uh to this or show notes to this episode well speaking of perpetrating white supremacy uh crowder this is steven crowder what's his name steven crowder yeah uh who's the change my mind guy

yeah yeah he's got like the is it like a brick background i just like i can always picture him yeah i'm in a college campus folding table coffee cup yeah yep and he now wears a shoulder holster uh of of for his uh firearm just to like really really put put it in our, like what his politics are and that he's a Chad. I mean, I should have called him Chad Crowder because this dude is undefeated in debates with himself, with the straw man that he creates on his show. And just unwitting. I don't know if they're even plants or these people on college campuses who he finds with the least amount of information on a topic and then goes on to be like i don't even know this person's saying like this isn't

even a debate i win again yeah so anyways he was uh offering to debate um the host of h3h3 is that what it's called uh ethan klein come on baby you know it's 3h3 huh nope not at all it was on youtube fucking eight years ago really getting into it but so ethan klein like comes on to on h3h3 is like yeah we're like i'm i'm dumb like i don't know why he wants to debate me but like i'm not uh you know somebody that would be worth debating i have no background in debating i don't espouse to like be able to win arguments about politics i'm not really a political thinker uh but so what he did is he had uh the political thinker sam cedar on uh in his stead so like once the debate started and crowder was like crowder like seemed nervous he was like hyped up you could tell when even before he knew sam was on the other end

of it he had that like hyperventilating i'm speaking at the top of my breath voice when you know somebody shook daddy and you're like right i can hear it in your voice you're not ready for like so you know i'm talking to you then yeah yeah he doesn't he wasn't here for it like even if it was just ethan um yeah and and then once he found out that uh it was going to be sam cedar uh who like he his argument when sam cedar shows up is like oh you're a nobody like i don't like you're not you're just trying to draft off of my audience but like so apparently crowder has been like uh like watching sam cedar's show like they know that from like the instagram live uh he's like uh you know when he talks about sam cedar he's like scared of him clearly. Uh, and I was like, that guy's, that guy's a real jerk.

Uh, so they, they bring Sam Cedar in and Crowder bounces. Yeah. It's just, it, it's, you know,

this is what happens when people, they want this like debate bro. Shit is so lame. Uh, yeah. Like, like whatever, dude,

if you really built for your take then it shouldn't matter who the fuck you're going up against if that's really the case but these aren't really that's what these aren't these aren't intended for that it's it's for crowder to have a moment where you can dunk on somebody with the you know antithetical ideology to help show his audience like you see we're number one because i'll selectively pick people I'll debate with. And then that's what it'll be. His whole audience is like that. He got that was so fucked up. That's not who he agreed to debate and all this other stuff.

The Daily Wire just put out an opinion. Steven Crowder showed why we shouldn't engage with debate me, bros. Okay. You are the debate me, bros. What are you talking about? Who? Huh? Are you? you are the debate me bros what are you talking about who huh are you that that his whole his whole ideology is being a debate me bro his whole thing has changed my mind but that shit is so whack because it's essentially just being like hey this on you to prove something else i'm not really here to debate anything you just tell me what your point of view is and try and change my mind

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greens and candied yams are you fucking kidding me yamma yamma yamma yeah what the fuck are y'all doing but like honestly this is just so whatever this this again this was like created an entire backlash employees were like i don't know if you guys know what's going on in this ikea i worked at um but 20 employees apparently called out sick they're like i'm completely off of this shit and the other thing was uh you know apparently going around that a lot of people were saying like i don't know who created this menu but from what we understand no one was black who participated in this because i can't imagine a single black person but also look i get it if you're completely in a room full of white people like isn't this good token person right right like fuck man yeah i guess fuck i'm quitting

right they so look they said uh ikea apparently said their spokesman when they were asked you know about this specific thing like were there any black employees that were part of this group that determined what this menu was they said that there were but could offer no further details about that so yeah it's just uh this is yeah i mean America, y'all. Yeah. But it was like at the local level. It was not like Ikea corporate. So it was an American decision to do this. Yeah, the managers at the store were the ones who created this special menu,

including watermelon, which was, you know, fed to slaves. On the day celebrating liberation. Oh, yeah. Don't worry. Y'all don't need to know anything about anything. Just, you know fed to slaves on the day celebrating liberate oh yeah don't worry y'all don't need to know anything about anything just you know i guess making a special menu was enough all right let's talk uh ben simmons real quick um i don't i don't know man that so the hate has gone too far for this man uh like it's just one of the things that's trending was draymond green is trending just because somebody compared simmons to draymond and okay another thing that's trending is a picture like at the all-star game where he's shooting from the top of the key and like all of the best

players in the league are like everyone standing around it's like chris paul lebron uh luke ad uh everyone's just standing there lebron's literally pointing at him and laughing as he shoots the hand gesture is in like that where your palm is up yeah posting like like it's really is mean man like because like so much of what goes on with simmons is like mental like the dude is shooting with the wrong hand yeah he's a better shooter with his right hand like there he can shoot with his right hand he doesn't like there's just so much going on man yeah you you brought up lonzo as like a corollary because like when you see it in frozen like in picture form it looks like he has similar form to lonzo but lonzo

makes the shots yeah well he changed his form and was able to start making threes. And so it makes you ask the question, well, why doesn't Simmons do that? But that's the reason is because it's a mental thing with him. Like it's never going to happen for him. Yeah. This photo. I mean, if, if I were like his performance coach, I'd be like calling his entourage and like destroy everything that has a screen on it right now. Yeah.

And I'm going to take him to like a place where we cannot be contacted by any kind of social media or digital media and just work on protecting our wellness. But yeah, it's tough to see because, you know, like on some level to really be one of these athletes, like you're going to have to navigate this kind of shit and still have the, you know, resolve to back yourself in competition. And yeah, when you're kind of dealing with like a platform where you're very sensitive and stuff like that, it's a part of me, like if my heart breaks, I'm like, oh, man. Me too. I don't know if he can survive that, but I get it. And most people, he cried his millions of dollars. But that's what sports do to you. Yeah.

I mean, it's, I do think that, like, they need to find a new home, a new situation for him because there are teams on which he would be awesome. Like, people are talking about the Warriors. If you put him on the Warriors, I think he's just surrounded by Steph and clay like that. I mean, that would be the ball. Yeah. Well,

that would be fun to watch, man. Like he, he, you make him basically the, uh, the Andrew Bogut from there, like 72 win season,

but like Andrew Bogut, except he's like one of the best athletes in the league and one of the best passers in the league like that would be dope yeah um but yeah it's just it's he's in a he's in a bad situation the philly fan base is gonna be you know hard to win back over yeah i don't know you hate to see it yeah it's i don't know i mean it's just it is what it is but i mean i think there is some level of i mean i think in general the athletes do get so much abuse online exactly it's pretty fucked up and i'm in like i'm from straight up just like you suck abuse to racial abuse like it's all over and you get why some people completely

stay off of it um and then for the people that do like it's like god the shit that you gotta fucking constantly hear like how the fuck like i don't know how i don't know how they do it um but you know hats off to those that do and then finally super producer on Ana Hosnia just sent us a picture of Porky Pig from the new... Is this from the new Space Jam, I believe? Yeah, it looks like, yeah. And he's dressed like E-40. I know, it is kind of... Type Porky Pig vibes with his fucking vest.

It's the frames, though, too. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's the frames though too you know the frames he definitely looks like eat porky fanzarelli um but yeah do it do it for vallejo one time do it for vallejo one time this is the most interested i've been in seeing in seeing that space jam movie um seeing porky pig in like a down yeah well like if they're like having like weird, like kind of cultural, like synapse connections of like, well, Porky Pig has like a,

you know, off kilter way of speaking and E40, you know, right. Cause that has that kind of flow. That's a little off kilter like that. I don't know that that's more interesting to me than just like space jam but with lebron um i don't know but it also seems like they're doing interesting stuff with all the

warner brothers properties so who knows maybe it'll be dope did you see that statement from lebron where he was like uh you know i'm just excited to spend the summer like it was coming off of the lakers loss and he gave a statement where he just kept talking about how he's excited to be working with uh bugs and uh the mom is just like oh man come on a bunch of jokers man finally working with some professionals you're like, whoa, whoa. Yeah, that was rough. Tough season. Tough end of the season for some of my favorite players in the league.

But, you know, it's... Time goes on. You know, everything's in flux. Nothing is forever. That's true. All right. Well, those are the things that are trending. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.

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