The Daily Zeitgeist - Loving Your Job Overrated, What Animal Do Fries Come From? 11.15.21

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

In episode 1030, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Aida Rodriquez to discuss People are quitting to find meaningful work but it’s harder for those making less money…, Jan 6 Snowflakes, want to go to Gitmo and claim they are being tortured by CRT!!!, American kids don’t know shit about food or where it comes from… and more! People are quitting to find meaningful work but it’s harder for those making less money… Hating work is having a moment Jan 6 Snowflakes, want to go to Gitmo and claim they are being tortured by CRT!!! American kids don’t know shit about food or where it comes from… Watch: Aida Rodriguez - Fighting WordsListen: The Beat by ESG Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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out your refrigerator day yeah we we all observe right that's I have some shit in my refrigerator. That's a good reminder, actually. I got some sausages I got at the butcher shop. I may need to check on. Some vintage. I hear 2018 was a good year for sausages. Yeah, exactly. For a Salvadoran style chorizo. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

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We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a truly hilarious stand-up comedian you've seen on Last Comic Standing. Tiffany Haddish presents They Ready. And her new hour special on HBO Max, Fighting Words, is so fucking good. Our listeners, you guys are really going to love it. Go watch that shit now. Please welcome the brilliant, the super fucking funny, Ida Rodriguez. And they said my name right.

I have some kale in my refrigerator that I never juice. You know how you buy the kale? Oh, yeah. I'm going touce this week and then you're like and it smells so bad right and then you have to look at those sad leaves and you're like where did i go wrong yeah yeah ida thank you so much for coming on the show so honestly i was telling you before we went on and listeners as well Words, such a fucking good special. I can't tell you how much I recommend it.

The jokes are fantastic. The insight is amazing. It's heartfelt. I, yeah, thank you. That's the first thing I'll say. Thank you, Kyda. That was such a pleasant experience. Yeah. No, it's been really like refreshing to have so many men say, hey, I see you.

I thought your special was good because there's so much sexism and comedy and yeah you know like people already think that women aren't funny a lot of people say it out loud they'll say to me like i don't really think women are funny but i like you and i'm like oh that's a bad yeah i don't know yet it's your delivery it's like i as an as a west coaster i've always had a love for new york especially and i think there's your your energy that new york energy too there's just every single thing i'm like i fucking love it i love this i love just and also just like you even coming to grips with being dominican and puerto rican like i feel that as a biracial person like am i do i

feel black do i feel japanese and there's just so many things that i feel like are that resonate with fucking anybody and if you like comedy bonus because this shit is funny from the jump so yes again yeah thank you yeah and thanks for joining us at what is i think probably a very very busy time you were saying you had your la premiere last week you got your new york premiere coming up yeah what's that experience been like it's been it's new you know i'm used to going to the premieres and people like moving me away out the way so that a bigger person can take pictures they were like you want to take me out the way we do you know like i remember i was on the red carpet behind britney spears one time and i and it was like they thought I was hurt.

The help. Like they were like, yeah, you're supposed to be holding her bag. So it's just been it's been overwhelming. I didn't know how much they were going to celebrate me. I didn't realize how big my premiere was actually going to be. It was really just overwhelming because, you know, I have imposter syndrome. I'm honest about it. And I was like, that's for me. Y'all spend all this money on me.

Y'all sure y'all want to do this? Right. You're like looking at the step and repeat. You're like, Ida Rodriguez. I know. You're like, yes, it's your special. My name, I had, I like, I broke down crying at one point. I was like, they really did this dude.

It was just, I was like, like the meme. Like I was like, oh my God. It's been, it's been very positive hearing feedback from people like yourself who have had the struggle with having to understand what their identity really is. You know, people who are tired of performative activism, people, all kinds of people just talking to me. People who love animals that were like, yo, like, I'm so glad you spoke up for the animals and everybody. Right. Truly. Well, totally well deserved and we're

going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first uh we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about people are apparently quitting to find meaningful work but it's we're going to talk about that it's complicated sort of dynamic where in america people feel defined by their jobs they feel need to define themselves by their jobs so just that that's a balance that people are dealing with we're going to talk about the january 6 snowflakes who are like rhetorically saying they want to go to gitmo but they don't want to go to gitmo but they they're not even built for americans yet yeah okay so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about American kids not knowing what like where food comes from.

So, you know, just good news in general about our schools, all of that, plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? So I honestly, my friend, Gadiel Delorbe, who opens to me as a comedian, too, and an influencer invited me to go get Dominican sushi in New York yesterday. And I had no idea what that was. So I Googled it and we went to this place called Mama Sushi's and they had like, you know what it is like? They had these rolls that have like the white cheese that Dominicans have planted, like meat, like it was like an experience. So but before I went, I did Google it to see what that was. I I only know about it from listening to Desus and Mero all the time because Mero always talks about the Mama Sushi on Dykeman. And it's just been it's been a thing in my head,

but I'm curious, did you, so you went, is it, what was it like? Was it good? It was delicious. Like they had this seafood roll that was actually, and I love sushi. I mean, I went to Japan so I could have real sushi because I was like, I want to,

I want to try the like real, real sushi. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't have a choice. Like, you know, Americans, you know, they have a way of ruining other people's cultural stuff. Like, but when you sit there and the fishermen go get that sushi and they tell you what you're going to eat and you don't eat it, that was like the ultimate sushi experience for me.

But that, it was good. It was such a disfusion of like two of my favorite foods. I love Japanese food. I love sushi more than any other, you know, food outside of like Puerto Rican and Dominican food. Everybody knows that. And I love Dominican food. Sorry to my Puerto Ricans, but Dominican food is delicious. So the fusion of those two, it was off.

I mean, it was just delicious. I mean, I'm not as up on dominican food so what is what was like the most dominican but i'm very familiar with sushi so what was like the thing that was combining the most dominican menu item or flavor was the monster it's called the monster and monster it had it had like plantain the white fried cheese that they use in for breakfast for dominican breakfast for food but just this had beef in it had chicken in it i don't i'm not a meat eater but i was like i gotta taste this it was so good i like restaurants that name their food like their roller coasters that like six flags like yeah monster get ready to eat the fucking monster there's a there's a sushi burrito place truck

out in la that has like these massive sushi burrito it's honestly a little much like i had to stop eating sushi for a couple months after i had them because it was just like too much of a good thing but their their burritos are like named the batman and the superman and like shit like it feels like you're at a at a theme park or something right i respect it's an experience right yeah because listing the ingredients isn't enough yeah i like salmon but can you call it like something more mythological for me to really i want that zeus let me know that's good yeah he's like the top one yeah what uh what's something you think is overrated oh the kardashians i think they're overrated yeah i think they're overrated you know it's funny it's like they're always like we're just

people let us live our lives and then they're like by the way i haven't got coffee by myself today yeah i think that's just so funny i think they're overrated you know and i think uh they're toxic that i don't i don't i'm not i don't want to call them toxic but i think the celebrity worship around them is toxic and it really harms young young women and young men and young non-binary people like into believing the superficial stuff because they don't get to see the behind the scenes and they don't get to see them without makeup and they don't get in real real life because everything is curated so i think they're overrated and and that's not to diss them but i think that that what's happening around them

is overrated and it's very harmful to young people right the institution of kardashians yeah there was a study about how there's like that account like rich kids of instagram that's just like these like young people just doing the fucking most on private jets and things like that and they were there was like a study being like this is actually really bad too because it's it's putting at the top for like younger people the idea that you want to be flying on P jets and in like massive, you know, being in a big ass truck or all these really stupid lifestyle indicators, which are completely antithetical to us having a livable planet. But it's interesting just how even then, like people are like, let's see, we got to start fucking poking holes in this shit. Yeah, you should be reading books that were written by. What's his name?

Kurt Vonnegut. The other thing that it does is like for someone like me that comes from where I come from, it entices people who are struggling and poor to go seek you out and try to rob you. And if you watch what's happening in L.A. and it's been happening when they say the poor will eat the rich is like y'all keep flashing all this stuff I'm not trying to shame you for it but I'm just letting you know that there are some people really struggling and they're really hungry and they're desperate and they don't know how to process their feelings and you know they might meet you on that jetway one day and snatch your purse most def said harder you flash harder you get flashed on everyone like that i don't think i have seen

a exercise of celebrity influence like i have seen since the kardashians became famous and then everybody started to look like them like it was almost like physically like they just like everything started just like on average the average human being in america definitely in la started looking like they could be a part of that family i was like there's definitely been influential celebrities i'm sure like when the beatles got famous like people started rocking that their haircuts but like this yeah it's just everything. It almost defies physics how much people are starting to look like them. And just to yearn for that, like that visual presentation of like whether it's what you're wearing or just the lifestyle you're living, like in general, like completely change the trajectory of like this is the thing that you should aspire to now fully everybody. now fully everybody.

You know, it's funny. I was one of those girls, still am. If you look in that corner over there, you'll see like in a while an assortment of Jordans, right? Because I was one of those always have been like a sneakerhead and always been a girl

who likes to rock my, you know, that roundaway girl look. That's always been, you know, my sensibility. I like to wear dresses and be feminine, but I also really enjoy, you know, that. And when I was to wear dresses and be feminine, but I also really enjoy, you know, that. And when I was younger, I remember that I would be the girl that got the attention because I was dressed like that. And everybody else like we have on,

you know, we would go, we're going to a football game and my friends got on heels and makeup. You want to do that? Campbell, like, you know, you got to walk up all these stairs and then I'd be the one with the Jordans and a cap and a t-shirt and the dudes will always You want to do that? Like, you know, you got to walk up all these stairs. And then I'd be the one with the Jordans and a cap and a T-shirt. And the dudes would always step to me. And my friends would be like, I wore all this. I did all this. Now it's the other way around.

Now it's even when you have on a baseball cap, you still have this filtered look. And I just think it's so unfortunate to feel the pressure to look a certain way when you don't even look like that in real life. Like, you know, like you could do all of that. What happens behind the scenes? So I just think it's, it's so much pressure to put young people, you know, feeling like they got to be rich. They got to be beautiful. They got to be thin. They got, they have to be everything. And they only have a certain amount of time to achieve that. Like, and that's, it's really sad. it's really sad yeah yeah what is uh what's something you think is underrated what i think is underrated is spicy tuna on a rice cake all right the favorite i mean everybody is in la in la yeah that's the I feel like that's that's like the I think that's like one of the first dishes people start like flexing on people when they like their transplants to L.A.

They're like, you know, had to get that crispy rice, spicy tuna, you know, like that's like. And for me, it's funny because growing up in like Japan and also over here in LA, I was like, my mom would be like, that's, you know, looking at American sushi or like, cause even again, I know Nobu really created that. So not to say he's not Japanese, but it would always be like, that's not traditional sushi abomination shit. And then cut to my mom going to a restaurant. She's like, I love this. Actually, it's delicious. You know know the thing about it is i'll tell you why i love it and why i'm puerto rican and dominican with a cuban stepfather i grew up eating rice every day of my life every day of my life we my mom she would make spaghetti and there

would be rice to go with it like every it was just that in like a straight up Caribbean Latin person. So you put rice and I told you my two favorite foods and then you put spicy tuna. Right. I mean, I love my favorite thing is to eat some just albacore, but I love spicy tuna on rice. So good that just made me hungry all right let's take a quick break we'll all go shovel down some spicy tuna on rice cakes yeah and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. So the big news in the mainstream media is more people are quitting than ever before. There's more unemployed people than ever before. The great resignation is upon us. What is happening? And so there's a couple

things happening. One trend that people are kind of starting to document is that people seem, especially young people, seem less likely to just do a job because it's a job. They're more likely to kind of want to follow their passion. It's funny, you highlighted this article for us, Miles, where this study calls it what I call the passion principle, the prioritization of fulfilling work, even at the expense of job security or a decent salary. So they've managed to labor eyes, just people doing what they love. Yeah. Not, not mimicking like our parents or grandparents who are like, I worked

myself into bone dust just to keep things working. You're like, Oh no, that's for me. But yeah, this is like, you know, again, that's not new. I think for the longest time we've heard things like you got to follow your passion, man. If you if you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life. And and that is true to a certain extent. I mean, there's a lot of stuff to indicate through certain studies, like with interviewing college students or career coaches found that over 75 percent of college educated workers believe that passion is like really important in making a decision. Like when it comes to what, what kind of career should I take? And 67% of them say that they would prioritize

meaningful work over job stability, high wages and work-life balance. And I think on a certain level that made sense for, I don't know, when I graduated in fucking 2007, I walked into a fucking recession and I'm like, fuck. Uh, okay. I don't know what the fuck I'm, I thought I knew what I wanted to do, but now I really have no fucking idea what I want to do. And I think that forced me into a moment of truly thinking of like, well, right now, not many things are an option. So maybe let's take this time to figure out what is, you know, something that really energizes you. And I think the idea being that, again, if you like what you do, then you won't feel like you're just going day in, day out

and wasting parts of your life by just toiling. But the thing that's really interesting about that is that idea of following your passion works to a certain extent, right? It's probably working for people who either have some family that they can support that can support them through a career transition, or just in general, if there are social safety nets. This was an interesting statistic that said when working class college graduates pursue their passion, they are about twice as likely as a wealth as wealthier passion seekers, interesting description, to later end up in unstable, low paid work far outside that passion.

So there's a lot of, you know, social safety net career things sort of tied up into everything that's happening at the moment. I also think there's collective trauma from the last couple of years and people, I can imagine that there weren't some people who were like, oh, I make a better living getting unemployment than I do doing this job. And now I'm going out and risking my life and they don't care about me because I'm not worthy of healthcare. And so I can imagine that people had, you know, the facing your mortality the way we did in the last couple of years where people don't give enough credit for that people were probably like yeah i'm and it's and and it's not like coronavirus has disappeared it's not like

covid is still not here so i can't imagine that people knowing how many people passed away and it was just like a brush of this group of people that are just gone now that people are like reevaluating quality of life yeah i yeah and i i think like that kind of goes to the other point that they're making that you know in america especially we tend to like the first thing people ask someone is like what do you do and then like that defines like how you think of that person or it defines how you think of yourself. You feel a certain way about having a job or talking to somebody and not feeling great about your job more than other countries. It's okay to not have a cool sounding job if you're able to, you know, have a good work life balance and take care of yourself and the people that you care about and then pursue the shit that you love. Like when your job that respects boundaries like allows you to. Yeah.

You know, I just I had to say this because it's burning inside of me. I don't know where I was going to say it, but I need to say it. So there's a shortage of Santa Claus, right? There is a shortage of Santa Claus throughout the country because the people who dress up like Santa Claus do not want to get COVID. They don't want little kids who are not vaccinated sitting on their laps. I thought it was because they don't want to get in trouble for, you know, other reasons, but it was, it was because of that. But I think it's interesting because a lot of the people who believe in Santa Claus that, you know, don't, they want you to say

Merry Christmas, not happy holidays, tend to be affiliated with this ideology that COVID vaccinations are not necessary, that we shouldn't be wearing masks, but it's just a lot of it is performative because everybody is going to protect their own hide. And so now you got a whole bunch of Santa Clauses that are not dressing up and not going out because they don't want to get COVID. But I'm like, I thought COVID wasn't real son oh well i i mean it it uh fuck you're right this it's real and i'm and i'm shook that's why i wanted to do it i do think though that like having a generation or just a populace like after the pandemic that is less likely to be interested in doing like kind of bone grinding miles as you put at work and like soul deadening work like that is going to have a fundamental impact on like one of the

big things that ties into job like satisfaction is like feeling like you're doing something and we talked last month about like studies that have shown that like you know up to like 40 to 40 percent to like most jobs in the american economy are just bullshit jobs that like make work jobs that like allow people to have a job managing other people and that's like basically why those jobs exist like i've the longer i've spent working in the american economy the more i've realized that that seems to be at least half of jobs is just like bullshit make work jobs like in a lot of cases make other people rich jobs yeah precisely yeah and that's like the other thing that this article in the atlantic points out

too is like you know employers love when they can find people who say they love their job because that means they can they can squeeze more out of you and that's right like they're like dude and that was sort of like the thrust of this is like don't fall into this pit of like i love my job because it's not all you're not always work you're most of the time i would say 99 of us aren't working for us we're working to make someone else a lot of money and like to the idea of like what it means to work and just like these bone grinding jobs like i even think about even guilt i would have about being like is my job hard enough you know like am i am i am i am i because i look at the examples of jobs my family have has had through the generations and i'm like dude i bet my grandmother

fucking laughing at me so oh you a podcaster how far did you go to get water and i'm like what it came out the sink and there's a lot of and i think there again because of the idea of your job being wrapped in your identity it really is insidious which is why like you know people are pivoting to things like actually the things that matter to me isn't necessarily saying I have, I do X for a living rather than I have a thing. Look, I know I have to work because that's how capitalism is or else I will be homeless and starving. So let me find something that actually gives me the freedom to do the shit that I actually like to do. And I don't have to get so wrapped up in thinking my work has to be the thing that gives me everything that I want. Yeah. You hear I don't have to get so wrapped up in thinking my work has to be the thing

that gives me everything that I want. Yeah, you hear these kids now, and which I respect, that they are calling out this toxic capitalism that's driving us into the ground. You know, people were really weaponizing socialism and communism and those buzzwords to alarm people who are being motivated emotionally and through

their pain. And all of that stuff is being hijacked to serve a greater purpose, to keep feeding this toxic capitalism that is running the world, not just America. And it's just interesting to see people now calling it what it is, because the conversation had been framed so that if you called out capitalism as having toxic properties, that you were being anti-American. And now people are starting to say, oh man, like this man made how much money during the pandemic? Because I didn't have any food in my house. And I just think it's important. And I think it's admirable to hear people finally starting to say what a Democrat, you know, working for this company or that company. And now people are finally saying, yeah, nah, I'm good. Right. And to the point where, like you're saying, like in previous eras, it would be like, oh, you're a what you talk.

What's all that shit you're talking? You're a socialist. You're like, oh, no, no, I'm not a commie. You're a pinko. Oh, no, no. And now it's like, oh, you're a socialist. And now everybody's like, yeah. And what? Right. So. Yeah. I mean, we want socialism to work for us, too. Right. Yeah, exactly. And my senators kids go to a good school. Right. Yeah. Us, too. I'm curious for you, like I like even in your special. Right. You talked about how you you did a lot of political commentary and that and then you're like, I don't know if that's for me. And I think, especially for people who are in the arts performative, there's a definitely an evolution of thinking like, is this a job I want to have? Is this a job I can sustain my life with, sustain a family with? Should I just take something that's more consistent? What sort of, what was your sort

of path through all of that to kind of arrive where you're at right now? What sort of what was your sort of path through all of that to kind of arrive where you're at right now? Well, I'll be honest with you. I've never made any money for being an activist. Right. So when people it's a it's a thankless job. Right. And it's not a job. It's just our civil duty as, you know, people who live on a planet with other people. I think it's just healthy to say I care about you. And if you don't have food, that should matter to me because it just, I don't know. It's just, I guess where the definition of humanity is for me. What I had to evolve to and learn in this business is that one, I have the privilege of doing it because I have a job in comedy that I do get paid for. And if I don't want to do this anymore, I can just go write my jokes. But there are people on the ground who do this every single day,

who fight for the planet, fight for racial justice and equity, that fight for the rights of women. And those people don't get a lot of followers on Instagram. You know what I mean? But if Kim Kardashian said, I'm going to help this lady get out of jail, everybody's like, oh my God. But there are people who are doing that

every single day that the people who actually helped Kim Kardashian accomplish that, that you, that they get overshadowed. And so I didn't want to be a part of that because I feel like that's toxic too. So I decided that I was going to use my, my, whatever I have to shine a light on the people who do that because they need the support. They need the economic support and they need the moral support because it's a really hard job to fight for stuff. And that I would, I would continue my advocacy and activism through my art. And so I'll write the jokes about this, but I am in no way equipped nor informed enough to talk about some of the things that people who, this is their expertise. And I just felt like I was in the way and I wanted to get out the way. The other thing is that people are exhausting. As I said in there, it's hard to fight for people

that you hate. I'm like, I want to turn around. You know what I mean? Like, I was just like, I can't stand y'all. Like, you guys are the worst. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. You know, if I say something is, why are you saying something? Why are you talking for us? If I don't say anything, why are you not saying anything?

Silent, yeah. So I just decided that I was going to redirect my energy and I was going to put it in my scripts and I'm going to put it in my writing. I'll put it in my jokes and the movies that I write and the TV shows that I make. I'm going to get out of the way and I'm going to let those people who do what they do. And anytime I have any power or visibility, I'm going to shine a light on them. Yeah. And I could you could tell, especially like in your I, I really loved how you gave everyone a lower third, like no one was just anonymous or just a, like a fake, like back wallpaper or nothing. You're like, no, this is this person.

This is the name of this group. Even if they're performing on the street, that was just a, you know, I, and again, you could see that permeate through your work. So yeah. I appreciate that you noticed that. Cause that was something that I had to vocalize. I was like, you know, and again, you can see that permeate through your work. So, yeah, I appreciate that you noticed that because that was something that I had to vocalize. I was like, you know, those people are important. And this is one of the people that look like this don't get to be on HBO Max or Netflix with frequency. So this is their opportunity to shine, give them a name. Yeah. Now you're platforming them. And now hundreds of thousands of people will see a name and be like, oh, I thought that group was fly. Let me look them up. And yeah, really commendable.

Thank you. All right. Let's talk about some people who are bringing prisoners rights to the attention of people who don't normally pay attention to that and that is the january 6th snowflakes who just can't even like process how they're being treated in prison right and you know like the you look at the tucker carlson propaganda documentary and like that that seems to be the underlying idea there is like there's a political war on white people when it's actually like there's a law that says you can't try and kill your congressman and vice president but but they they seem confused yo they're fucked up and look that's what whiteness will do to you sometimes. You get a little bit of accountability and the wheels fucking completely blow off because two of these fucking clowns who are in there, they are they're trying to get they're like trying to file a motion for bail because they're like, we don't think this place is terrible. Now, I'm not going to I'm not here to say that prison is a good place to be or that I would necessarily advocate for prisons in general. But in this narrow context, there's just something really rich to me about these entitled fucking wannabe rebellion fuckers acting like this is just too much.

So they've written a letter. This is part of their motion where they said things like this. And the complaints are all over the place. They said, quote, we are compelled to alert the world of the capitalized D for whatever reason of the diabolical conditions in this, quote unquote, correctional facility, which continues to crush all of its detainees. We are political prisoners on American soil who have been unjustly and unfairly incarcerated. And it goes on to say all because of our political affiliation. Oh, shit. so they just like looked at how they voted they just looked how they voted and put them in prison i mean that is pretty fucked up interesting if they're true and they go on with their sort of pseudo victimhood rant

about how they would rather be in guantanamo bay they say we hereby make the following request let us spend our precious and limited days in guantanamo bay cuba oh sure are you have you are you okay you clearly don't know the human rights violations that occur but go ahead yeah you might like that and they go on to say like you know if we're going to be treated like enemies of the country this that and the other and then they make other claims about like mice or exploding toilets and mistreatment from guards which is i'll be fair that's pretty normal i think that is something that people do regularly complain about so that's valid but then they go on to list some other shit that just tries to sound like they're just trying to get sympathy because you know they're not they're just not built for the the prison system in general this this one of the defendants the lawyer lawyer says, quote, Ryan is regularly discriminated against for being white.

He is forced to endure disgusting racial animus and slurs regularly. The jail also prevents him from having reasonable access to reading materials while simultaneously streaming anti-white messages and critical race theory propaganda across his tablet. This is psychologically damaging. theory propaganda across his tablet. This is psychologically damaging. Staff wear political clothing with BLM, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and the vote Democrat on it. I don't know why it says the vote Democrat, but that's the horrors of the world they're in. Truly horrific. So, you know what? It's so funny because some of those people went there on private jet, right? They went on a private jet. The insurrection. What's the quote when you're accustomed to privilege?

Equality feels like oppression. Yeah, absolutely. They're like, the service around here is terrible. The room service sucks. My tablet, I'm forced to. What the fuck? Are they talking about a tablet computer like they have iPads? They're playing reruns of Living Single on my tablet i'm forced to what the fuck are they talking about a tablet computer like they have ipads they're playing reruns of living single on my tablet this is critical race

theory remember that guy that was requesting vegan uh fair he was like the shaman and he did get it and you know what's funny it's like like they're not equipped for those prisons. And neither are these 14 year old black kids that get sentenced to prison. And neither are, you know, the white kids like that white young boy that got went to prison for having marijuana before it became legal and got a life sentence. Whose mother has been fighting throughout the country trying to get her son freed. And so it's like you're not equipped for prison. These are the things that you rally for when you are home. These are the things that lock them up, put them in jail. This is what you advocated for. So what's wrong, son?

Why are you not like that energy? Where is that? Keep that energy. Right. Exactly. And, you know, I think also that. I speak about this, the lack of education, because you can be rich and not be and be dumb as a doorknob. The lack of education in this country continues to be the greatest threat to our freedom and democracy. You have these people who are being rallied emotionally because they hate immigrants. They hate people of color. They hate black people. They hate women. They hate trans people. They hate gay people. And now here comes your Messiah that is just validating all of those and also irritating and agitating the wound that you feel because you think that these people are trying to take away what they've been taken away from you. And so now you are, there's this mass hysteria amongst those people that they're willing to kill. I mean, they're the children from Lord of the Flies.

Look at them. They were planning to murder these people. And so now you are in jail where you're supposed to be because that's what people who do stuff like that, that's where they go. And now you're seeing the conditions of the people who have had to endure that, who've been unjustly imprisoned. Now you're seeing our world and you don't like it. You don't like it outside and you don't like it inside and i think it's it's fabulous my stepfather's from cuba he was a political prisoner i say send them give them their request let them go over there so that they can see what's happening over there right and that'll give them some perspective right that's like parenting when i

told my mom i wanted to run away she's like okay well then pack your shit and then you can go outside and then live on the street because that's what you want right that's what come on now keep it up keep up the energy here's your backpack you need a pillow and i'm like i don't want to run away she's like that's what i thought yeah you know i tried to take my video game she was like hold on bitch that's mine hey right right right oh you paid for that okay you say that? You take one outfit. Right. Oh, I don't think you paid for that Police Academy handheld video game. They had a Police Academy handheld video game?

Yes, I loved that shit. It was like my shit. I didn't even know how to play it. I just loved the movie because I just liked Michael Winslow as a kid. Give me the Police Academy game. It's terrible at it. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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And we're back. And speaking of, you know, lack of education being an issue in this country so we're starting to see that american kids now more than ever don't know where food comes from ages four to seven in particular like think cheese bacon hot dogs chicken nuggets shrimp and hamburgers come from plants which I guess like some hamburgers do. Maybe that like broke their brain. I think the thing that like sort of this study points to, as I said, there's two big things contributing to kids sort of not being as on top of shit as maybe in previous years. Is that a like more than ever now, less kids live near or on farms. So like agriculture culture is not really around as much in front of kids,

like just by osmosis getting into their heads. And also that there's such an emphasis now from like the educational system to tell kids like what to eat versus where food comes from. It's basically like you need a balanced diet. You should be eating this. You shouldn't be eating this. Rather than, this is how our food is cultivated and made. And I mean, I think that definitely, that tracks on some level.

But they even asked to ask, you know, kids to categorize food based on animal-based or plant-based. And almost half of the kids thought that French fries came from animals. Right. And not even knowing, like, that shit's a potato cut up and fried family. Oh, yeah. I know, Jack. Yeah.

News alert for you. But the other thing they say is from parents not really having conversations with their kids about where meat comes from. And also, I think given the state of the earth and pollution and how more people are confronting their diets, that some adults have like a more strained relationship with like meat consumption. So they're kind of like in this weird space of not really talking about it or not knowing. But I'm just thinking, yeah, it's it feels like everything. We're not having the right conversations. And some of us, it's just too uncomfortable, it seems, I guess. conversations and some of us it's just too uncomfortable it seems i guess that's so sad you know like if you think about uh what is being taught in schools like they're not learning geography anymore that got cut you know like history is is very the history books are pretty sad that they're giving the kids that they're not when they're taught civic

studies they don't really understand and respect farmers because so much political agenda goes into curriculum now because whoever the superintendent is at whatever school, they're monitoring what curriculum they're going to use at this school. about critical race theory, which is college curriculum, and somehow got hijacked into grammar school education. But it's interesting to see the manifestation of the lack of quality of education that our children are receiving and the elite people who have a lot of money, who can send their kids to these private schools, they're not learning it either. Like, you know, they're just in a safer environment, according to them, you know, they have uniforms. But the truth is, is that because that whole, you know, my son went to a college prep school and they prepare them for the college that's like the next step of that prep school. So they just keep the rich people going whatever and Omar was able to go to that because he he had to think his way into that school but it's just like if you think about the quality of education in this country

it's no surprise that children don't know where meat is coming they're getting their education from Netflix you know like they're getting their education from watching television. And it's just really sad to think that a bunch of kids don't know where food comes from because it's really hard to explain to kids that yes, if you eat meat, that some people believe that that is to be of service for people, but the way it's been abused and the way that it's been, the animals have been mistreated. How do you sit down and tell somebody, you know? Right. It's like, you want to see a slaughterhouse video?

Like, I mean, do you, are you really trying? I mean, we can educate you, but, and I think that's another thing that parents are trying to be like, I don't know how quickly to introduce a small child to the concept of slaughter and to eat things. But I don't know. I think about like my own upbringing and i was raised in a house where my parents sort of were guided by the philosophy i was like well if the kid has a question we're going to answer directly like don't fucking start creating weird like you know don't

water shit down and if even if i give you a straight answer it doesn't connect then chew on that for a little bit so like as a kid i was always just being like yeah chicken it's like i'm eating uh like uh like just doing that kind of shit knowing like oh that's what this is bacon is a pig or things like that but i'm curious if like i don't know at what age any of y'all were like ever confused about where food came from or you're always sort of it's just something that you know they're like yeah that shit comes from there that's how we live my father's a chicken farmer oh my stepfather so we knew which is why i stopped eating meat early because i i would make friends with a with a little chick and then i feel like my brother was a devil my brother was like yeah you know who that

is like you know he was just the worst person on the planet that's one thing about coming from like an immigrant family because and working people they have a respect for other people who work so if you want to know like you'd be like where does that that rice come from you want to know where that rice comes from a whole bunch of people go out there to that that's like my. Like there are people working right now while you sitting up here watching your little television show out in that hot, because I was in Florida and it was hot, sweating. And so I always knew where, you know, like I remember, you know, my ex's mom was a worked at a towel mill and made towels so i and i was when i and i was a teenager so i was just like i always had a sensibility about where things came from because

they're usually made by the people who have to work really hard so that all the other people can have what they need right well i i just don't understand why you want to sugarcoat that right yeah because i think there's a way that you don't have to get into the, you know, the minutia of slaughtering an animal or things like that. But very be like, this is where it comes from. Things don't just appear. It's typically born out of someone else's labor. And that's why we have to respect shit. But, yeah, I think, again, when you look at sort of what kids learn now, and I don't know if it's really necessarily an indictment on the education system because clearly there are gaps there.

But just like things are changing. And I think on some level, we're just more and more disconnected from the fact that we rely on each other as well. Like that it's like everything's not a given. I also think that the attitude towards like farmers is like that towards veterans in this country and soldiers, like everybody loves them. But do they really? You know, it's like this attitude about it's so American to love the farmers. having a drought or they don't have people, all these people who were talking about the immigrants taking their jobs, they did these deportations. And then in California, you saw the farmers were like, we don't have people that want to do it. Where are all those people who said the immigrants wanted their jobs?

Why are you not open? Where's that energy? Missing energy here because, oh, sounds like you realize how hard it is. And now you and what's oddly enough, it's like those like laborers that work in agriculture in the Central Valley, they have the highest fucking vaccination rate of like anywhere. You know what I mean? And it's just wild how people just, again, all these myths and dumb stereotypes that go through people's heads just keep us with a very limited worldview just disconnected from how the world actually works disconnected from where the food comes from from who makes that food from what a vaccine is from why you're still alive even though you had chicken pox like right you know all that shit it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist

where can people find you follow you all that good stuff um you can find me right now on hbo max and then you can also uh i'm on twitter at funny aida and on instagram and i'm only on there on friday through sunday so good for you mental health there. There you go. There you go. That's smart. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. Nobody tweeted. I want to say because I mean, my thread right now is mainly people talking about the my special, you know, praising or whatever. But I thought this was funny because one woman said, funny item. My best friend makes fun of me for having

conversations with her dog, but she, he does talk back. That's my favorite tweet. And that was from Cindy Stuckey, which I thought was funny. Cause it was like, I talk about how we white women talk to the animals. Right. She was really, really a good sport about it. That's so funny. Miles, it's been great co-hosting this episode with you. Where can people find you, follow you, and what's the tweet

you've been into? Oh, shit. Find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. Also, check out the other show, 420 Day Fiance, where we talk about 90 Day Fiance. That's Sophia, Alexandra, and I. A tweet that I like. First one.

Actually, I mean, it's one from The Daily Show from last week, but it was just so funny because the judge in that Kyle Rittenhouse case, the tweet from The Daily Show was breaking. Judge in Kyle Rittenhouse case reveals he has adopted Kyle Rittenhouse, declares mistrial, quote, because he's my son. God, what a fucking transparent abuse of nonsense. Anyway, and the other one is from at Palmer Rachel C. Rachel Palmer tweeted mid-20s, smiling at strangers in bars to try and have sex. Mid-30s, smiling at strangers in the park to try and have mom friends. Same move.

Same move. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Blair, Blair Saki, recent guest, tweeted, I used to have a faithful reply guy named Pissfreak420, and I'm wondering if he got married or something because I haven't seen him in a while. If you're reading this, I hope you're doing well, Pissfreak.

And DrLibido at Pissfreak420, okay, I'm back. Blessings upon you, Blair. You are very sweet. And then Blair replied, Pissfreak, you're back! Thank God! Five exclamation points. Gotta love the Piss Freak.

Yeah, and it's not just a clever name. And then Robert Schultz tweeted, Did you know there's actually more sugar in fruit than in soda? Did you know I'm actually hanging on by a thread as it is? Like, I don't need to hear that shit.

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Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might be enjoying oh man ida got has man got me in a new york mood and i just let's do uh let's do a track by esg it's a great band from the bronx we've gone out on a few tracks of theirs before i think ufo might be one of their more notable ones because it's been sampled so many times in rap and hip-hop.

But this one is called The Beat. And like all their songs, it's just like raw. The rhythm section is really dope. I love the vocals and a great way to start your week. So this is ESG with The Beat. All right. Well, The Daily Zech has the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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