The Daily Zeitgeist - M Zeit Shyamalan 7/5: Trisha's Phone pt. 2, 4th of July, Jayland Walker, #GentleMinions, "Expose Smithfield's Deathstar", Debra Messing

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

In this editon of M. Zeit Shyamalan, Jack and super producer Trisha discuss Trisha's phone pt. 2, the terrifying and uniquely American 4th of July massacres, the shooting of Jayland Walker, the rise of #GentleMInions, the "Expose Smithfield's Deathstar" protestor, and insider info from Debra Messing about the Biden administration trying to borrow some celeb cred... again!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We do tend to talk about six trends and the six trends, perhaps the high point of his career. We've been having that conversation lately about various filmmakers and whether their second movie was the best. It seems like that's the case with a lot of my favorite directors anyways. But I digress. I am thrilled to be joined today to talk through the trends by super producer Trisha Mukherjee. Trisha, what's up? Hi, Jack. What's up? How's it going's it going oh no how was your fourth

we have another update in the great escape is what i'm coming to think of it of like your phone's attempt to escape from you yes uh continue it just continues it goes on and on um i was at a family gathering for fourth of july and a child took my phone to his house by accident um and so i yeah it just ended up miles and miles away from me constantly on the run first it was the elevator yeah we talked on the last trends episode that you dropped your phone and it managed to go like perfectly through that tiny little gap between the elevator and the floor that you're getting off of um i'm impressed i'm impressed by your phone's willingness to do anything escaping through a small hole we've all seen in prison escape movies. Hitching a ride with somebody who is unaware

in a laundry van or something like that is also always smart. So we'll see. I mean, I have a feeling if you turn your back for very long, there's going to be a hole tunneled through like your apartment floor. Under the Hudson all the way to New Jersey and beyond. Yeah.

In another continent by no time. Superduser Brian suggests some tiny little sheets tied together out the window. Maybe some Kleenexes tied together out the window just because it's smaller. Maybe some Kleenexes tied together out the window just because it's smaller. But I am also saying like it's either your phone is trying to escape or like some forces of the universe are like, she really shouldn't have this phone. It's not the right time. We're about to open up the portal with a large Hadron Collider. And we need Trisha to not be looking at this exact phone.

So I don't know. I believe in the multiverse. I'm a little, yeah. They're afraid of you with that phone. Too powerful. They're like, we need her to bust it back down to a cricket or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I have a suspicion it's the FBI, but to a cricket or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I have a suspicion it's the FBI, but I don't want to say that too loud. Yeah. That could be. Also could be. Yeah. They are constantly calling me and being like, so what's up with Trisha? How's she working out? You haven't told them anything, have you?

As of yet, no. But, you know. All right. have you as of yet no but uh you know all right uh truly horrifying weekend with a mass shooting in highland park seven people were killed at least 47 others were injured it was a young white guy shooting from a rooftop at what seemed to be random people at a distance like just you know psychologically the the most horrifying just you know it's like suddenly out of nowhere like you were shot and there's nothing you can do about it and we don't know anything about the um you know political views of this particular young white man mass shooter but uh

it does feel like it's like what terrorists would do but it's just like ambient terrorism on behalf of a broken system at this point um well i think also it recently came out that he went to a trump rally rally before the shooting happened. I don't know how long ago it was. Yeah. And he was like an edgelord. So, like, he was, people were, I don't know. Like, I don't, it does, like, to me at this point, it, like, truly doesn't matter.

It's just, I'm sure there will be a mass shooter whose politics are, you know, leftist. And, you know, we had that person who was struggling with mental illness who showed up at Brett Kavanaugh's house and told the police they were armed and thinking about hurting Brett Kavanaugh and that's the issue the common denominator is like just access to deadly guns like that seems to be the thing so I don't know we got a tweet from Jason Osborne yeah he's uh so this guy is a New Hampshire state representative and he tweeted something just so a new hampshire state representative and he tweeted something just so absurd and in bad taste he said instead of spending 20 more than last year on your independence day hot dogs lay off the calories and grab a few more rounds for your ak-47 yeah and yeah it's just as i said like in such bad taste i mean it's not a joke and it's insane that like elected representatives are tweeting things like this um it's and yeah i think um what happened in highland park wasn't unique

at all this fourth of july there were shootings in several other cities um and even when i went to the fireworks in new york i just couldn't stop thinking like I am in such a bad situation as is everyone around me if someone were just to decide to take out a gun and it's such a tragic thing that we're like watching these fireworks and stuff and they're supposed to symbolize all these grand ideas of freedom and independence and you know all of that was fucked up in the first place when it was created but just that juxtaposed with just how terrified everyone was um just on alert for any kind of sound which is so hard to recognize among fireworks um barriers falling just things

that shouldn't be scary but just are yeah there was like Casa there were people first of all there was a shooting at a July 4th fireworks show in Philadelphia where two cops were wounded but there were also like Orlando there was a stampede caused by crowd mistaking fireworks for gunfire um and yeah yeah i don't know it's like i am i had like a i broke down yesterday uh just thinking about i don't know like that i think it was cumulative like you've all day and then this story and like i knew that I was going to a fireworks display that night with my kids and like I'm having like intrusive thoughts of like my kids getting shot and that like are hard to ignore when you live in this version of America. And I'm sure a lot of people are dealing with that. And, you know yeah that's it's hard like i think we can acknowledge it it's fucking hard no matter who you are exactly exactly and i think the other

thing i would was thinking about is that there were so many cops everywhere um during these parades and clearly in so many cities they failed to stop these killings. So I think, yeah, we just, you know, you can say it time and time again and nothing really happens, but it seems like the only real solution is to get rid of these assault weapons and get rid of cops that, as we'll talk about later, also hurt people. Yeah. I mean, we might as well talk about it now. It's more stories that feel like we don't get better.

Video of Akron police shooting Jalen Walker to death 60 times while he was unarmed was released at the end of last week. The police had tried to pull him over for an unspecified equipment violation. This is another one of those things where the police are initiating something that ends in deadly conflict over something where the stakes aren't even big enough

for them to even mention it in their reporting of what happened. He drove away from the police. in their reporting of what happened. He drove away from the police. The police claimed that he fired a shot at them or like what during the pursuit and that they found a gun in his hand. But the important detail is that he was unarmed

and running away when they shot him 60 times. And, you know, the use of deadly force by police has not dropped at all since the george floyd protest police funding has not been cut uh in in many places it's been raised in some places it was cut a little bit but then we saw the main thing that has happened since the Black Lives Matter protests and the police violence protests of 2020 is that the police had a temper tantrum about being challenged. And the mainstream media kind of coordinated with them to try to generate a panic attack about crimes committed by poor people. Like, you know, committed by the sorts of people who are often the victims of police violence. Right.

It's just, again, it just really feels like nothing has changed at all. Despite all the protests, despite every, you know, individual person who's trying to be themselves a force for change, the inaction of the government, the inaction in terms of defunding police departments, in terms of doing anything about it, I think that's really what has, like, led to this incident and surely many more like it in the

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I am a bit of a box office whisperer when it comes to children's cartoons, it seems like. Many people are saying. I knew that late year didn't make sense was gonna be a bust and i had a good feeling about this minions rise and grew thing and it broke the box office record over the weekend for a july movie and it also launched a trend on tiktok called gentle on TikTok called Gentle Minions. You're saying it with such a disapproving look on your face. This is the only way I know how to say that. I am fine with this trend, actually.

I think it's fun. When you first described it to me, I thought it was people dressing up as minions to go see the Minions movie. But no, I got that wrong right yeah yeah so it's actually people dressing up people meaning kids like teenagers um dressing up in suits to go and see this movie um and i think the aim of it is that they want to dress up like grew um But they have begun throwing bananas in the movie theater. Not cool. Not cool at all.

Not cool, you dang kids. Yeah. Leading to many movie theaters banning people dressed in formal attire. So, yeah. So some cinemas have said that they've suffered a massive financial impact having to issue refunds to other people who are just trying to enjoy Minions Rise of Gruen Peace while these kids in suits are throwing bananas. So, really makes me question what has come of the world. I mean, it makes me question what's come of these movie theaters when I can't even go see Minions while wearing my finest my sunday duds with my top hat and uh gloves and um parasol i yeah you know like i'm sure there'll be some uh like paparazzi

photos of you that surface soon in a suit with a fistful of bananas ready to throw. Yeah. People often think that I'm cosplaying Bram Stoker's Dracula. That is just how I dress. It just makes me think of all these trends from TikTok that when they translate to real life, they're bad. I don't know if you remember the ice cream licking trend. I don't think I remember that, no. Okay, basically it was this thing where people would open the seals of ice cream. Or no, maybe they weren't sealed, but they would just open the lids of ice cream in a grocery store and lick it and then put it back in the freezer.

Oh, I don't like that. Yeah, yeah. And due to that, a lot of companies started adding seals to more things. But it's just like, why? Like, keep the trends in TikTok, not translating to the real world. I mean, it definitely seems like a thing kids have probably been doing for years, but distributing that on a social media network. I don't know.

It does kind of feel inevitable if we're going to have social media that stuff like that is going to spread. I just merely ask these gentle minions to think about those of us who like to look classy when we go see Minions movies. Exposed, Smithfield's Death Star is trending. This is just the most,

maybe this was like the most American 4th of July of all time uh because there was a mass shooting and there was also this story where uh joey chestnut um competitive hot dog eater tackled and put in a uh chokehold a protester who was holding a sign that said expose smithfield's death star and i I guess that that was protesting the treatment of pigs in the United States' largest pig farm factory. But I feel like the tone that I've seen this news shared with is more along the lines of,

hell yeah, Joey Chestnut's the man-dog. Fuck protesters. This is fucking rad. Because he did put this person in a headlock while cruising to another World Hot Dog Eating Championship. Wait, what? Was he eating hot dogs as he put him into it?

Yeah. And he claims that the reason that he was like, oh, no, man, that's too cool. That just made it even worse. The reason he put this person in the headlock was because he had hot dogs in both his hands. So it was just like a work of propaganda come to life in this moment where he just, while holding hot dogs that he was using to win as world's best hot dog eater, put somebody a headlock for like protesting animal rights so joey chestnut i would say i honestly don't even know what i get ready to be read joey chestnut

i don't know if you uh heard the tone in trisha's voice there but you are about to get demolished. Go for it. I was just going to say Joey Chestnut, do better things with your life, perhaps. Damn. I know. I know. I think he's going to hear this message and change for good, Jack. Scathing.

Yeah. 76 hot dogs in 10 minutes. Yeah. He's eating like a whole pig's worth of pig assholes in that time. Just if you stacked all the hot dogs together. I'm guessing that's what that would put you at 76. I don't know. Anyways.

And then finally, Debra Messing is trending. This is a CNN article about the Biden administration had some of their big influencers on a phone call. Apparently, Debra Messing was one of them. The former Will and Grace star was, according to CNN, among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with the White House last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

And the White House aides were like, hey, so just so you know, we have a new trove of clips that you can be sharing about like all the reasons Biden is killing it. And first of all, wild that that's where they're at, that they're like, we just need more celebrities tweeting out our memes. also that they still think that like this is how elections work after the 2016 election where the entire celebrity world joined as one to be like fuck donald trump hillary clinton is the best

and that just made i think most americans dislike celebrities more so than vote for Hillary Clinton. But anyways, Deborah Messing for one was pissed to be there. She said she'd gotten Joe Biden elected and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didn't even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening. And, you know,

the white house took this under consideration and, voting. Others wondered why the call was happening. And, you know, the White House took this under consideration. And that afternoon, participants received a follow-up email with a list of basic talking points and suggestions of Biden's speech clips to share on TikTok. The call was three days after the decision eliminating federal abortion rights. And CNN is like, this encapsulates how Democrats feel about Biden. I think it encapsulates just the entire Democratic Party in many ways at this moment. Yeah, it's just like they think that instead of doing anything, they can just get celebrities to

come and like look happy clearly deborah messer wasn't putting up with it but i'm sure other people have um but as if that's like a substitute yeah i mean bts like yeah the have bts come have BTS come through and just talk about how Joe Biden is doing like very nuanced policy takes that you know fine slice it enough where it seems like Biden is doing is doing everything he can for Americans I feel like that is the move and maybe Joey Chestnut we get Joey Chestnut to put some uh trump supporters in the headlock right right well i feel like if joey chestnut supported a politician i would be right behind it he's just right my political icon that is what i was expecting when you said well joey chestnut and i was like oh i was expecting you to be like tell me who to vote for because you are my kid

um political views sorry i did have to google uh joey chestnut political views uh rips donald trump's hot dog eating style okay so he has criticized donald trump's hot dog eating style um and that is the real reason i did yeah the main thing right all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this tuesday afternoon we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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