The Daily Zeitgeist - Mac ToZeit 12/16: Whoopi v Megan, Watchmen, Kumail Nanjiani, Pewdiepie, West Point

Episode Date: December 16, 2019

On this episode of Mac ToZeit Jack and Miles discuss Whoopi Goldberg and Megan McCain on the View, fans clamoring for Watchmen season 2, Kumail got buff, Pewdiepie taking a break, and some bad hand gestures at the Army v Navy game. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Really doing it. Damn. Let's talk about what's trending here this Monday afternoon. Yeah. Whoopi versus Meghan McCain. Miles, I chose not to even look into this because I just wanted to hear about it. Tell me everything. They're pretty standard.

The View is a glimpse into a nightmare world that you love to watch. And I don't know, over the last forever, there are constant head-buttings between Whoopi and Meghan McCain. This time, Meghan McCain was getting in an argument with Sonny Hostin over the impeachment inquiry and an upcoming impeachment trial. And really, the only part of the clip I saw was just at the point where it's clear that the two of them are at an impasse with Meghan McCain just sort of not listening to the other person

and just having, you know, like what they do. A bit of a gish gallop. You just keep saying shit and saying shit i'm not hearing you i'm saying shit and then whoopi tries to interject um and we should play a clip very briefly because so at one point during the show uh you know they're the talk about the impeachment inquiry is brought up and that one of the points that joy behar was making was that the president and his allies refused to go under oath, have this be any some semblance of any kind of rule of law country. And when this is completely different than what Bill Clinton's perjury was. And then basically McCain's just trying to make it seem like it's not total bullshit and just sort of saying, like, I'm not here to litigate the ethics of it.

I'm an ABC analyst. And then this is where you start hearing back and forth but really it's all about how whoopi just has to be the mother of this entire group right shut shit down in such an elegant way that only a black woman could here's what's happening now we're gonna we're gonna show ever girl please stop talking please stop talking right now. Because you know what? No problem. What's happening? Thank you. No problem.

Thank you. I won't talk the rest of the show. No problem. Okay. I'm okay with that. Yep. See, it's funny when you see the cultural rhetorical battle strategies. White people typically do the passive aggressive.

Well, then maybe I'll just stop talking altogether. And then welcome to Whoopi's world. And she's like, and I'm okay with that. And there's, where do you go after that? Yeah, so eventually, you know, this show... You go and sulk in the corner, I guess. Yeah. And then she just sort of like then was like

trying to get the show back on course. Like, you know what, we're taking a break. Oh, really? Yeah. And The View will not be back until next year kiss and makeup so yeah you know just a little light viral moment i mean there was some behind the scenes the view details where megan mccain was always just on the verge of quitting yeah yeah i think so till to this day it's the same she just hates being there because she feels like people aren't fair to her conservative values. People are trying to make me defending racism seem like a bad thing.

But my dad was John McCain. That's right. It's kind of like her logic. Yep. That's it. Watchmen season two. Yeah. Trending.

What's that? I have no idea. I just put it down because it said that there. And I guess there's some kind of seasoning to it. Well, obviously, last night was the finale of season one, or if there is even, does it make sense to say season one, if this was only always going to be one season? Right.

You said Damon Lindelof. I heard Damon Lindelof. I heard someone tell of- At a hipster coffee shop. That's right. I was sitting there, and I overheard these hipsters getting so bent out of shape because they were saying that Damon Lindelof is not going to do...

That he always envisioned this as a one-off series. Right. And since I will not spoil this for anybody, I can see how you could argue either way for there being a season two. Yes. It could be very elegantly packaged as one fantastic season of television. Right. Or you could get your what if machine going in your brain and want to see it play out based on what you see at the end.

But, you know, it's up to each their own. I will say that, my God, this was a fucking near flawless season of TV. Perfect. I was fucking wowie yeah so yeah i am up to episode five or six the flashback the nostalgia one oh yeah you od'd on pappy's nostalgia that shit is fire it's a good it's a good show people should check it out if they haven't already i think now people like megan mccain is od ODing on her dad's nostalgia. That's right. They've got to put 20 cc's of adrenaline in her heart.

Or whatever that other program. Like she goes, here's your tutorial. Anyway. Right. Watch the show if you haven't. Kamau. Nanjiani with a Bonnie that doesn't quit. Kamau, wow.

This motherfucker blew up. I know, dude. So Kumail got cast in a Marvel movie? Yeah, The Eternals. The Eternals. Like The Avengers, but longer. Yeah, could be. I don't know.

I don't know. But they, so he got ripped. Yeah, and it's his, okay, in preparation for this role, which is odd because I know it's a voice role. He's never on camera, so the muscles seem excessive. Oh, no, it's not just a voice role, is it? Oh, it isn't? No, I don't think so.

Okay, well, then this makes sense. This dude, I don't even know how many decibel places from zero body fat this guy has, but it's odd when you see like comedians get super jacked because a i think like the law with comedians were like y'all don't fucking do making us all look bad right uh but also for him he was like i got this part i wanted to see as he even says it he goes it's amazing what would happen he's like i would not have been able to do this if i didn't have a full year with the best trainers and nutritionists paid for by the biggest studio in the world.

Right. I'm glad I look like this, but I also understand why I never did before. It would have been impossible without these resources and time. Yeah. That's what when it's your full time job. That's what you're able to do with your body. I don't even if that was my full time job. That's why you and I make it our full-time job to look like this to

sit down yeah you know what i'm excelling the fuck out of this seated lifestyle yo i was looking at my uh belly my tracker and on your iphone or i'm a sedentary motherfucker i was gonna get an apple phone or apple watch and i think i was scared that the thing would just be flashing on it being like, you are about to die. And I'm like, I don't need all that. Move, please. Yeah. And my first instinct, because I'm so cynical and I'm a child of divorce, I see this man get all ripped. I go, he about to leave his wife?

What happened? You did say that. And then so did. Super producer. Our first takes were, he about to leave his wife? Right. I'm not going to say I didn't think that. But you know what? I thought my first thought was, are you about to leave his wife? Right. I'm not going to say I didn't think that, but.

But you know what? I thought, my first thought was, that's not real. Somebody photoshopped, put his head on somebody's body because. Dude, this motherfucker has ab veins. Yeah, yeah. He's got real, real deal. You're not playing a fair Kumail. Abacus. But I wonder too, like if that was, is his role a shirtless role?

It must be. Maybe. I would hate for him to be like not that i would hate for it but like if he's a character that doesn't necessarily have to like subscribe to this ideal of what superhero is if he's just like some dude on a show right you gotta be jacked like everybody right it's i mean when people when people reach a certain level of fame, they're allowed to get ripped. My vow is to never get ripped. Yeah. I will fucking claim soft body. I will be the first soft body hero. Oh, my God.

They'll be like, what the weird stretch marks on his back? Yeah. The fuck? Remember when Adam Driver tried to take his shirt off in a movie, but he didn't get ripped? And everyone was like, he looks like a praying mantis. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Toxic culture we have. It's really awful.

You literally, you can't win either way. Right. You can't be yourself win. You can't get buff win. Right. Because you get buff, you have hater ass second rate podcasters like us trying to tear you down. That's right.

But hey, more power to you. That is what we're doing. Second rate podcasters like us trying to tear you down. That's right. But hey, more power to you. That is what we're doing. But I personally don't subscribe to Mark Maron being like, you can't be good looking or healthy and be funny. That's just absurd. The Bible according to Mark Maron.

Yeah, the guy living in his garage. garage uh pewdiepie is trending because he's taking a break from youtube in 2020 and then he got mad that people were reporting he was taking a break from youtube uh and uh criticized the media and then deleted his twitter so he seems like he's in a good place he got mad that people found out about a thing he was intending to do which people would be able to figure out i think he had announced it and that he didn't like the angle they were taking because people were like oh this nazi needs to take a breather exhaustion you know like implying like that he racist right oh that he has a drug problem or who knows what i man i i i saw him on the street yeah brighton yeah trying to score dope right yeah no trying to score smack dude she's like i'm sick man please i'm simon my fucking

gas but yeah it was it was odd to see like he looked like a dude who like run in and out of his house and didn't really like people seeing him or something yeah i don't know whatever just go go away, sir. That shut-in sweat. Yeah, just go, you know, use the N-word in the privacy of your own home. Big shut-in energy. And then finally, there's this story about,

I actually saw this, a West Point cadet slash Naval Academy students throwing Nazi gang signs. Wait, those are two different schools, right? Yeah. So it was like Army-Navy, I think. Yeah, yeah are two different schools, right? Yeah. So it was like army Navy. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. Army Navy game. Trump went and the white supremacists felt empowered. So like they were showing one dude in a crowd and then behind him, people were like doing the inverted. Okay. Below the belt. White Peter,

white powder, white powder, white powder. Okay. one of my favorite movies the okay oh yeah yeah so i mean that's pretty straight up this is where they if look if i'm gonna be a scumbag lawyer i'd be like my honor what my client is doing you know that game where you did the circle like this and if you looked right i would punch you right because i'll keep it low yeah uh because it's homophobic yes that's what that's what was happening also problematic but it is very very straight oh it seems very clear too because other people in the military have

been doing it and we're like oh yeah yeah they had to suspend a coast guard cadet yeah and you see groups of cops doing it fuck there was that whole what the fuck was that class like west virginia their graduation photo they were doing the doing the Heil Hitler salute in their class fucking photo for correctional officers. There's a lot of white supremacy in the Army. Yeah, so anyways, they say they're looking into the cadets' motivation for throwing the signs, which feels like not a great start because it means they're going to be exceedingly fair. Go soft. Go out of their way to see what the white supremacist meant with their white supremacist hand gesture. Oh, yeah.

We meant white power. Right. Right. Okay. But what did you mean by white? A Coast Guard cadet did the same thing last year, and he was thoroughly reprimanded. What does that mean? They just said thoroughly reprimanded?

Yeah. Okay. Reprimanded. Hey, man. I mean, that's how you prevent problems like this happening, is you make examples out of people. By giving them a real talking to. By underhanding a beanie baby at them.

Right. Last year, the U.S. Coast Guard reprimanded an officer who flashed the same hand sign. And I guess, yeah. During a TV broadcast. Zeitgang, if you're familiar with being enlisted, what does that mean? Thoroughly reprimand.

They sit you down and go, hey, come on, guy. Yeah. Do that on the 4chan boards. Yeah, and let us know, military Zeitgang, if you've experienced any white supremacy in the military. I have a feeling that we're going to have a lot of no's. A lot of no's? Like Roxanne, a lot of no's. A lot of no's? Like Roxanne? A lot of no's.

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