The Daily Zeitgeist - MAGA Value Meals, Why Nicki Minaj At UN? 11.19.25
Episode Date: November 19, 2025In episode 1966, Jack and Miles are joined by journalist and author of Becoming Baba: Fatherhood, Faith, and Finding Meaning in America, Aymann Ismail, to discuss… Trump Kicks Off Affordab...ility Tour? White House Posts Then Deletes MAGA Grimace, Can’t Get Past Inflation, Corruption And The Epstein Files? HOW ABOUT A BRIBE? LAPD Continues to Protect Us (From Accurate Statistics About How Bad They Are At Their Job), Bill Maher’s Racist Bullshit Just Domino Effected Nicki Minaj To The United Nations and more! Exclusive: Trump to talk affordability at McDonald's summit White House pivots to affordability as President Trump confronts voter discontent POTUS: "Everybody loves something at McDonald's. I like the fish. I like it. You could do a little bit more tartar sauce though please, seriously." Trump ‘Knew He’d Win’ 2024 Election After McDonald’s Campaign Stunt As He Addresses Affordability Trump, 79, Makes Weird Noise as He Whines About McDonald’s White House McDonald's Arches Post LAPD Continues to Protect Us (From Accurate Statistics About How They Are At Their Job) COMPSTAT Plus Bill Maher’s Racist Bullshit Just Domino Effected Nicki Minaj To The United Nations Nicki Minaj to spotlight plight of Nigerian Christians in UN speech arranged by White House Nicki Minaj Slammed After Thanking Trump for Nigeria Threats Trump tells military to prepare for 'action' against Islamist militants in Nigeria Are Christians being persecuted in Nigeria as Trump claims? Is there a Christian genocide in Nigeria? Evidence shows all faiths are under attack by terrorists Ted Cruz blames Nigeria for ‘mass murder’ of Christians: What’s the truth? No, Bill Maher, there is no ‘Christian genocide’ in Nigeria A US senator claims ‘Christian mass murder’ is occurring in Nigeria. The data disagrees LISTEN: $AD BOYZ II by Junior HSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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the towel.
Oh,
it's so hard.
Oh,
fuck.
God,
which way do I go with this?
I have a thousand photos of my dad doing exactly this.
Just like,
just getting bundled.
Pretending to be a sheikh.
Oh,
really?
Lawrence of Arabia style.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's a good look.
It's funny.
There's like a really amazing school
for religious scholars in Egypt.
It's called,
Oswald University and my dad
took like a class there for a day
and ever since then he's like yeah I've been to Oswald
yeah yep yep
and he'll do this
he'll just do this
throw it over his head
is he funny guy
oh he's hilarious I didn't real
so I thought he was always just kind of mean
and like you know like a lot of dad
just keeps kids at arms distance
yeah I didn't realize until after I wrote my memoir
and I was like asking him questions
that he was actually a comedic genius
he's actually really really really funny
He was killing stand-up.
Oh, my God.
He told me this one story.
So I sat down and I was interviewing him for the book, and I was asking him how he,
why doesn't have any hair beneath his neckline at all?
So straight from here, down, nothing.
Nothing.
No arm hair, no leg hair, no chest, there, nothing.
All the way down?
That's probably not a question you want to ask your dad.
I'll answer it, but I mean.
Like he's been dipped.
Leave that curiosity aside, Jack, really.
That's what he was going to say.
That's what he said.
He said, you know, I come from a part of Egypt where we celebrate the first.
first born son by dipping them in milk when they're born. And I was like, well, it's really
fascinating. I'm taking notes. I'm writing it down. I wrote it into the chapter. And then when I was
reading it out loud to my brother for a fact check, he was like, that doesn't sound right? So he brought
it up. That went to my dad. He was like, I've never heard that before. The fuck kind of milk was
this. And my dad starts cracking up. And he was like, you believe that? He's like, that's a least of
milk. You think we just have milk like that where we could just like dip babies in there? And then
would throw it out?
I was like...
Good, okay, yeah.
He's like, you didn't know that my interview style
was two truths and a lie?
Every paragraph?
Oh, I hit a lie in there?
Oh, you're the fuck with you?
My bad, bro.
You know I'm not your dad, right?
This has gone too long.
But he gave me so many stories like that, you know?
He told me the other story about how when he got married,
he was driving a taxi cab in the city in the 70s.
It's when he got married,
he told his wife, my mom, that he would take her to a
a nice Italian dinner.
And so they got in the cab.
They drove up to Joe's pizza on Fifth Ave.
And it's literally just a big pizza oven in a window.
And I don't know if it's real or not.
Because I don't know if he's just making fun of me or not.
I'm choosing to believe that is real.
This fucking kid will believe anything.
Thank God.
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It's Wednesday, November 19th, 2025.
There's a couple of things here that it's like Play Monopoly Day or whatever.
This is the one, Jack.
This one's for you, my guy, because it's National Carbonated Beverage with Caffeine Day.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Have you just heard people call it?
A little American do.
Have you heard that referred to as a fridge cigarette?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know.
See, I was just like, Diet Coke's or fridge six.
I was just around a bunch of Diet Coke-brained people in New York.
And they were like, I need a fridge sick.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And they're like, oh, yeah, give me one too.
And then I was like, it's the new six, seven among middle-aged people in New York.
If you're a white business professional.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, hit that fridge sink.
So, yeah, rip a fridge dart, eh?
I'm going to rip a fridge dart this afternoon in honor of my national day.
Hell yeah.
And, uh, Mountain Dew is fridge meth.
I have a fridge crank, yeah.
Depends, man.
You know, because some people, uh, cigarettes come in all kinds of intensities.
So I feel like, well, I can't, you know, the sodas.
Doesn't it be fridge meth, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fridge filterless camel red.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's a Marlboro, you think?
A Marlboro light would be a Diet Coke, I think.
I think that's what the type of person.
To me, it strikes me as a parliament.
A parliament is, I think, well, I think those are all in the same range of cigarette.
It's like the cigarette for people who are like, oh, I don't smoke, but them bum cigarettes.
Right, right.
Well, because parliaments to me were like the first cigarette, all the white girls in my high school smoked.
And then when they're like, oh, you could do drugs out the recess filter.
I was like, yeah, this is the new...
This is for me.
Yeah, yeah.
No, would a black and mild be like a ducted pepper?
Black and mild, see, that's...
Yeah, why not?
It's one that's only a mixer, you know?
Like, whichever soda is, like, best as a mixer,
because I think it's black and mild, like, you use it for blunts.
I mean, you can't.
I mean, usually you want to use a actual cigar.
So maybe that's just a Coke heavy, you know?
But do people do take out the inner paper inside the black and mild
so it hits a little bit less harsh.
So it is in a way,
it's like you wouldn't just hit it straight out
the fucking pack like that
unless you've got some lungs.
Anyway,
we've done our duty for the cigarette industry.
Anyways,
the whole episode is just this.
Which one takes you to flavor
a country the most?
Let's talk about our favorite drag.
If A.
Lincoln was a cigarette,
which cigarette would Aim Lincoln be?
Do you remember your first drag off a cigarette?
I was like,
this smells.
so good and tastes like dirt air.
Well, the first cigarette I smoked was one of my, was a butt, you know, that my family
members left around.
I never, the first time I sparked out the pack, new fresh cigarette, I was probably
15 in Japan.
Yeah.
And I was surprised how smooth that first drag was.
I was like, I was like, yo, I might be able to do this.
He was used to butts.
Yeah, exactly.
You were used to smoke.
I was used to butts.
Yeah, exactly.
Just down there like half the filter I'm smoking.
They're like, sir.
That's not tobacco.
My name's Jack O'Brien.
Oh, yes.
Potatoes, O'Brien.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Hey, it's Miles Gray, aka, come on.
Look at who led capitulation.
Turk goat dams betrayed the nation.
Now, A.C.A. go raise premiums.
Blame those octogenarium bums.
Okay, shout out to less than zero on the Discord.
That's, oh, no, Faro Manch.
Most deaf, Nate Dogg.
One for the treble, two for the base, three for the incredible paper chase.
I think is what most deaf said, aka Yassine Bay, for people who really follow his career.
Anyway, thanks for that one.
Lesson zero.
Thanks.
I wrote two, too.
Let me go.
Amen is smart.
You're about to go.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You've been here before.
I was going to jump the gun for this one.
Don't act brand new, Amy.
Don't act.
Come on.
We're thrilled to be joined by an award-winning Slate magazine staff writer, one of our
favorite guests.
Yes.
You might have seen his work on a couple places like, I don't know, CNN, the New York Times, NPR, GQ,
heard of it, the Columbia Journalism Review, which is just a couple local, periodical, such as that.
It's Amyne Ismael!
Assalamu al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-fleo-fish-a-a-a-a-fileo-Fish, no relation.
Bubba on the beat
does get to the theory that
Miles and I have positive from the start
that everyone's mentioned
in Bill Clinton
there's the horse theory
Natalie
what about Bubba Sparks
what about Bubba Sparks
you know
that would be just so weird
Has anyone
asked Bubba Sparks
Has anyone reached
Bubba Sparks for a comment
I feel like this is a time
I feel like this is a time
for every person
they Bubba to be like
just so you know bro
it got nothing to do with me
It's not Bubba Wallace.
It's not Bubba Sparks.
It's not Bubba Smith from Police Academy, even though he passed away many years ago.
The timing probably doesn't work out for it to be Bubba Gump.
Bubba from Forrest Gump.
Yeah.
Because I think he passed away.
And he, you know, they would have met in the war.
Trump hadn't dodged the draft.
Oh, you mean, you mean the actual Bubba, not the actor, Michael T. Williamson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
I'm just saying, I don't know.
I don't know.
My brain doesn't work.
Bubba Wallace.
Damn.
Michael T.
Williams is 68 years old now,
the guy who played Bubba?
That's fucking wild to me.
I mean,
I guess that's not that wild.
I feel like a dismissive asshole like Mark Epstein
would probably refer to him as Bubba.
Yeah.
Yeah, you never know.
Let's leave no leaf unturned here
because he is approaching this
like a bridge troll in a riddle
being like, I cannot tell you who it is,
but I will tell you who it is not.
Oh, okay.
Like your dad when he's being interviewed.
One of us can only tell the truth.
One of us can only tell lies.
You have three questions.
Amen, it's great to have you back.
How have you been?
Oh, man.
I'm feeling pretty good.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Getting a lot of writing done.
Getting a lot of pieces done.
I spent some time at the UVU campus where Charlie Kirk made his last debate.
Got to learn some things from talking to those kids directly.
Yeah, man.
It's been good.
It's been good.
How are you guys?
Yeah, wait, is that a piece you're working on right now or does that?
Is that something you wrote already?
It published, yeah.
Oh, it did.
Oh, I have to check that out.
I was just reading a lot of your coverage about Zoran's election, like in the buildup
and aftermath, but I miss that Kirk piece.
Oh, dude, I'm so excited about Zeron.
It feels like we've already like woken up in a whole new America.
Does it?
I mean, it definitely gave everybody the, just a light air of positivity, although now we're
like, okay, so how are the billionaires?
they're all now scheming to be like,
how do we make this
not do anything?
You're like, yeah.
You know what it felt like?
It felt like that moment in Syria
when Bashar, I said,
finally got deposed.
And then all the prisons were being released.
And everything was just opening up
and people were coming back to Syria
for the first time and forever.
That's what this feels like.
If we finally saw a democracy
do what it was supposed to do,
it wasn't just like somebody cheating
or some election
fraud something. It just felt like he won
by more than 50%.
It worked. His campaigning worked.
Right, right, right. I feel like we haven't seen that in a while.
No.
No.
Not at almost like...
I mean, in local race, I feel like it's usually at the like
city, state level where you're going to
see that kind of like big D democracy
kind of stuff really go down. Once you get
to the federal level, it's just money
games. Yes, we can?
Yes, we can.
May we?
Amy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about what Donald Trump is up to with his affordability tour,
his McDonald's franchisee speech that had a weird, speaking of Police Academy,
had a weird, like, little Michael Winslow moment where it was like,
did he just start, did he turn into a walkie-talkie there for a second?
I have a theory on what he was going for, so we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about his plan for getting people distracted from
Epstein Files, which is a bribe, you know, just which of all the policies like this, you know,
I'll take that, send some money directly to people.
Yeah, that's never been a bad thing.
Now, will it solve everything?
I don't know about that, but yeah, go ahead.
Support people, right?
We're square.
You're going to stop asking about the Epstein fires.
All right, you're off that now, right?
Just, I don't want to hear it ever again, okay?
You can take the car out to me, but I don't want to hear about it anymore.
Yeah, he's like, da, da, that, that, that, that, that.
And only take it if you're done talking about the Epstein files.
We'll talk about the LAPD who are continuing to protect us.
Hell yeah, bro.
From aggregate statistics about how they are at their job.
The worst.
Most obviously guilty shit I've seen the LAPD do.
This is pretty wild because they are on some, always on some like guilty shit.
But this is pretty bad.
And then we'll talk about, so Nikki Minaj is addressing the UN today.
And it all starts with Bill Maher.
being full of shit.
We'll talk about how that train of misinformation happened around the subject of Nigeria
and, you know, a right-wing plot to fabricate the idea that, oh, you think, you think Israel is
committing genocide?
Actually, it's Nigerians who are doing to Christians.
Oh, interesting.
So all of that, plenty more.
Yeah, that's sad, man.
It is.
I mean, look, Bill Amar, this amazing way you can do in your Islamophob with an H-Boh.
show. You can affect the business
at the UN. Right.
All that plenty more, but first,
Amin, we do like to ask our guests.
What is something from your search history that's
revealing about who you are?
Okay. This morning,
it was like big news in my
circle of friends that the Legends of Zelda
movie that we're finally
against our first looks.
Oh, really? I'm a big Zelda nerd.
I've played all those games to death.
It's the only game I can really play. I'm a big
dungeon freak. And, yeah,
Me and my circle of friends, we love that shit.
And so, yeah, there's like the first images.
Dungeon Freak sounds so much nastier than what it is.
I got to really, yeah, we did try to my whole vocabulary.
Oh, yeah, he's like, when I say D&D.
People are really going to be looking for my name in the files.
Okay, so first looks, I'm looking at something that looks like the Peter Jackson Lord of the Rings.
Yeah, it's pretty much it.
Yeah, it's a lot of green flowing fields.
It's still pretty exciting.
So shit that is like
Hollywood's promise to New Zealand
that we will boost your tourism industry
once every decade.
It feels like what's what we're seeing here.
That's cool.
It's live action.
You know, that'll be interesting.
They said, oh, wow.
They're describing it West.
The director said they're aiming for something,
quote, akin to a live action Miyazaki,
which, okay.
Who's directing?
There's a lot of opportunities.
Yeah, is it?
Hayao Miyazaki, no, but, you know, the vibrations, we're going to copy.
I used to hate, like, video game adaptations, and then I saw that movie Uncharted with Tom Holland.
And I was actually, this is, this feels like a meal.
Like, this feels like a whole meal.
I really enjoyed that one.
Are you one of like, Super Mario and stuff?
I was like, man.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I get like the animated version.
They're just trying to keep it, like, to very video gamey kind of stuff because it wasn't
the John Liguizamo Bob Hoskins live action, uh, Mario brothers.
we got in the 90s.
I mean, that was so good.
Are the fans, how are the, because obviously, I mean, I feel like Nintendo fans are
less toxic than, like, console or PC gaming fans.
Are there people enthusiastic about this casting?
Yeah, pretty happy, man.
I think everybody just didn't want it to be, like, some big name celebrity where they were
going to just try to force it like they did.
Oh, yeah.
Because they continuously do.
How are they going to get Chris Pratt to do the voice, though?
Is he just overdubbing that?
like in VL afterwards.
All right.
I'm going to give you the directors.
Mama Mia.
Right.
And I'm going to give you the director's filmography.
And you're going to do a bit of a Britney Brosky face, Miles,
where it's like, ugh.
Okay.
All right.
Yes.
The kombucha face.
So he is best known for directing the Maze Runner film trilogy.
But then he made the fourth kingdom of the planet,
fifth or fourth planet of the ape's reboot.
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, which I've heard is like interesting, at least.
Yeah, I see that.
And it's all right?
Yeah, I don't look, bro, I don't, do whatever the fuck you're going to do.
You never know, because I know directing movies is, you might make a whole bunch of shitty ones and then suddenly make a good one.
So off of this and Amon's excitement, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to say really positive about this.
I do really like the no-name performer, so.
It's a perfect pairing, man, if you think about it, because all the monsters in Zelda are.
like non-humanoid, they're like pig ape
thing, creatures. And so it actually
kind of makes sense. It actually makes me more excited
now that he did the film. Yeah. I'm just waiting for when they're
going to, because I know right now they say this
woman Bo Braggison is playing Zelda, but I know
they're going to put Sidney Sweeney in that role eventually.
Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what else it is? I haven't
been excited about anything, like, in movies for so long.
And so I'm just really allowing myself, I kind of
forcing myself to be really excited about this one.
I love that. May it not be a
Disappointment made it.
What was the last time you got really hyped over a movie?
I was pretty psyched about one battle after another.
I was really psyched over weapons and I never saw it.
You still have seen weapons?
No, I've had time.
You got to see weapons, right?
I know.
I was just like, I remember seeing the trailer.
I'm like, yo, this shit fucking goes.
And then cut to like, you know, life, lifeing.
So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm glad also.
It seems like it's aimed at theaters, right?
this is going to be a theatrical release.
They're not just going to be like,
now on Amazon Prime.
No,
no,
no,
okay,
that's good,
that's good.
No,
no,
no,
I think I heard,
I was really excited about the,
uh,
Miss Piggy movie.
And then I think I heard that it's going to be a streaming thing,
which is crazy.
Like you need to put that on,
you need to put that on,
on,
you know,
out on theater.
That's fine because I just showed my kid the Muppets Christmas Carol.
He was fucking love,
he normally doesn't like seeing like live action shit.
He likes animated shit.
He was,
feeling. Oh, nice.
Yeah. Is this going to be like a live action
Miss Piggy? Live action Miss Piggy?
Yeah, yeah. I haven't even heard about this.
Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence
and Miss Piggy. This might be
relevant to one of our upcoming
icon episodes, so stay tuned
for those. Emma Stone.
Yeah, yeah. All right, Amen, what is
something you think's underrated?
Hmm.
Underrated? I'm going to say
Tomicatchez. They're back.
They are. They're back.
They're back.
Yeah, I just bought one.
I'm going to give them to my wife.
I'm really excited.
Do you know what the tomogachi sorry?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
The little cartridges with a little screen on it.
And you give it food and you clean up its poo and you see them get bigger and they laugh and they cry and they're just so happy.
And you can't neglect them to the point that they could die.
Yeah, they could die.
Yeah.
And when they die, do they die forever?
That has a question that my seven-year-old asked me about people recently.
I don't remember.
That would be crazy if you have to, like,
if it's to throw it away if it dies, that'd be crazy.
I feel like the original Japanese version probably would have been like,
yeah, bro, it's gone.
Welcome to life.
And then for American consumers,
they're like, you got maybe just take the battery out and put it back in.
Oh, they respawn.
Thank you, Catherine.
They respawn.
Jesus.
Well, that's a little scary, actually.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Yeah, this totally missed me.
Well, yeah, because you were, what, your four-year,
yeah, you would have been like driving, like a driving,
high schooler by the time
this would really hit in fever pitch for me.
How old are you? I'm in my mid-50s.
Yeah.
Dude, that looks good on you.
You still have all your hair.
I'm 40 years older than miles.
He's 32, bro.
No, no, no.
You'll be 45.
Shit, I'm 41. Yep.
Uh-huh.
God damn.
Look at us.
Yeah.
Old as fuck.
So are you seeing this?
Like, is it coming back in the sense that you can get one on eBay?
Or you're seeing this as a trend?
They have like a whole new.
line of them.
Wow.
You know,
but yeah, so I think
it's just kind of like a fun little toy
that you can just keep in your pocket
and then every once in a while it rings
and you can pull it out and you can play
with it. And it's something that's not your phone.
I think that's like the bigger draw.
Exactly.
Something that's not an app. Something that's not,
you know, because I feel like so much of my life
and my wife's life and everything is just going from
like big screen to little screen
to the back to big screen, the back to little screen.
Yeah. And just life has gotten so
repetitive with having
kids. I mean, dude, I love having kids.
I like being a dad. But we end
up doing the same things over and over again,
and the days are really running away from us.
So I wanted to do something different for
this year's holidays and year holidays.
It's funny because we're Muslim, we don't even do
that stuff, but I still wanted to get her a gift
so that she wouldn't feel left out.
And I was looking around and I just like, I wanted
to get her like a gadget, something that was small.
But she's not really into gadgets. She doesn't want
like a watch or anything like that. Yeah.
She kind of likes things that are like not a dummy,
like a dumb phone, you know? So I
I was looking at that and I was like,
she really used to like that stuff back in the days.
I remember I used to like that stuff too.
Let me just get her on.
Yeah.
Nice.
I can't wait till next time you're on.
We need to get the report because my gut would be that having kids and then having a thing
that replicates having kids.
Oh, no.
I didn't even think of that.
Did you worst a kamagachi?
I got to feed one of them and I can't remember which one it is.
This one's got stink lines coming off of it.
It's funny, though, too.
of that, like, Amy, you bring it up because
when this shit was popping,
it's because we didn't have cell phones as kids.
It's like, oh, bro, I got this little Tamagachi
I'm fucking around on during class.
Yeah, we had anything.
No, tamagachis.
And you just think of all the things.
We used to just, like, the phone has your place.
Like, I'm seeing like a fucking yo-yo.
You know what I mean?
Or it's like, bro, you got nothing to do.
Get that yo-yo out of your pocket.
A yo-yo phase.
Oh, big yo-yo face.
Kids were rocking beepers.
I didn't have enough people calling me.
Oh, but we didn't do that.
Did you put it in your hat, too?
Did you clip the beeper to your hat?
No, I never did the, I never did the beeper.
I think I got a, like, type of candy that came in a beeper-shaped box.
Oh.
For those of us who didn't have bustling enough social lives to work a beeper.
I was in the streets.
Like, pretend, what if you pretended that you had shit going on?
There's, uh, Jack, there's bubblegum spilling out of your beeper.
Oh, shit.
Oh, yeah, she's calling again.
All right.
Yeah, I better take this.
My, my dukes is tripping.
You know how it is.
I pretend my mom is calling.
Dude, that's so funny.
The best I can imagine.
I have really overprotective parents.
Did you guys have beepers when everybody else had a cell phone?
I had a beeper in 95.
So people mostly, people still had beepers.
And it was like the beeper era when I had a beeper.
Sick.
I had a beeper because I couldn't afford a phone.
And so I would just get a beep and then borrow someone's phone to call them out.
Yeah.
I had the beeper for a long time, though, because I also didn't, like, the phones are so big.
I still was just so into the idea because, like, rappers would put, like, nine beepers on their waistband.
Yeah.
I was just kind of like, I had two, like, at one point I had two beepers.
One was a broken one, but I just had two to just stunt on people at the mall.
That's like, if you got a lot going on and you want to look like Batman, you need like a utility belt.
Just all beepers, yeah.
So many beepers.
Beeper Batman.
Doctors still kind of use them, right?
Or they all using Apple watches and shit?
I think the Apple watch.
Yeah, they got phones.
Ah.
My wife works in a hospital and she has a beeper.
She does?
I feel like, I feel like that's like the last point.
She gets pages.
Right.
I feel like that's the last place where they're still used like in a regular way.
Right.
So it's, I mean, yeah.
So I think my wife has like a work phone that is only like for work calls that she knows if she's
going to call on that.
It's within the hospital.
Yeah, yeah, it's important.
Yeah.
But yeah, I guess beepers do make sense.
like for that so because yeah dude i was i was showing miles yesterday i got nine spam calls
yesterday like during the course of our recording just an hour and a half yeah hour and a half
nine spam phone calls it's they have made it completely fucking useless like if i was a doctor i'd be
fucked or i'd be like getting scammed so much yeah oh hold on sir i got to oh i got to leave this
surgery i'm getting another call no that's spam doctor
I don't know. I don't know. You kind of like sanitize your hands all over again.
Like, got to be sure. It's the same area code as my hometown. It makes me think maybe it's
someone I know trying to call me from a new phone, which is a thing. I got like the AT&T
spam detection thing. And like it's just taken off since then. And now it never says scam
likely. I'm like, what the fuck AT&T? Anyways, what's something, I mean, that you think is
overrated? Um, laptops. Uh-huh. I feel like we're, we're finally. We're finally.
at the point now where you could just do everything on your phone
and so when I see somebody like pull out a laptop
on a train because you know
like I'm in the city and everything and somebody's like it's like a busy
train and somebody like has to do their work
and they gotta like do it's like dude it could wait
right do it later
yeah trying to make a big production
of the fact that you have work yeah
you take up space can you write an entire
article on your phone have you done that
I've done that before damn it's not
you're a great you're a great fun typeer
yeah because I need I need my
full keyboard like to really
crank shit out.
But you could also hook up
like a keyboard to a phone now.
You can get like a dunk.
That is the wildest look though.
You imagine you're taking the train
and somebody just takes their phone out
and then a fucking keyboard
and they're like,
right, let me just type this shit up on my cell phone.
That's so much easier to carry
than a whole laptop.
And it's something about it just makes me,
just drives me nuts.
Because I see it all the time.
I see people pulling out laptops
and doing work somewhere
where they're not supposed to.
And I'm like, dude,
look around you're stressing us out read the room yeah read the room i'm trying to have a sandwich and
you're trying to use this cafe as your office yeah yeah dude like your slack sounds are fucking
upsetting me that i can hear ambiently in this office yeah yeah and it's like they they sometimes
give you a dirty look if you're dragging a chair across because i'm interrupting no work this happened
the other day my son was pushing a chair in a cafe and somebody was gave him a look he was
interrupting his flow yeah you're in a public place i would have grabbed three fucking chairs
my bad man I'm expecting some people
man you're using this chair in front of you actually
it wouldn't bother me so much if
like I didn't see it all the time you know
and it just feels like you can't leave the house
without somebody making whatever space their office
you know I take my case in the library a lot
again just people just posted up
making it their workspace and I'm like it's not that important
even though it's a peaceful place to do your work
We'll do that shit somewhere else.
Or just so, you know,
be better at time management.
If your problem is that you have to do work on the way that,
like on the way to where you're going,
maybe you should have woke it up a little bit earlier.
That's right.
They tell me to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and get it together.
Thank you.
Oh, you're getting crushed by your job?
I don't want to see it in front of me.
You know, the article that I did fully write on my phone
was the January 6th article when I went to the Capitol building.
Oh, okay, I'll give you.
I needed to file literally right then.
And so I just typed out everything as it happened.
Just went and published lit in a couple hours.
And it was read like one of Jeffrey Epstein's emails.
It was just like no capitalizations, punctuation just scattered throughout.
Luckily you got a good editor, so yeah, it worked out.
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And somebody told Trump about this affordability thing.
This crisis?
It really must be hard for him who has never, you know, needed to affordability.
anything in his life, never had any sort of lack in his life. And also doesn't seem to be able
to hear people who aren't billionaires, like, you know, like fully take them in as humans.
Yeah. So this is probably news to him. Some people are like having trouble. Yeah. Well,
when you're that wealthy, all your wealth is just like built on exploiting people's like labor. So at
that point, you truly don't see them as people. You're like, yeah, these are my fucking smurfs that I
squeeze dollars out of the
what the fuck are they complaining about but
yeah the Trump is having a
summit or had one already
with McDonald's franchisees
about affordability and I guess
rather than like I don't know introducing like legislation
that would bar companies from profiting
excessively he'd rather just yell at a bunch
of McDonald's people about it
but he lower the prices
like that was basically a thing right
yeah I mean well when you read cheap for a day
or something do a sale
when you read the comments you're like this
feels like somebody's leaning on you, McDonald's.
But so people, we've talked about how he was going to go on a speaking tour to address
the affordability crisis and just not a listening tour.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no.
You will hear me, you will hear me again, and he said he was just going to go around not
offering solutions, but merely pointing to his past accomplishments to be like,
how are you going to say I'm not doing anything for working people?
I'm doing no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
Now, don't look too deeply into that and see if that's actually beneficial to those people.
but it sounds good and that's what I deal in.
So yeah, he continued this and they got the people who are asking about like,
what's going to be going on at the McDonald's Summit?
It says a key message at the McDonald's Summit will be that value and affordability
or quote, so important to consumers and elected officials that our franchisees
and company are co-investing to bring extra value and affordability to our customers.
And I'm like, wait, hold on.
affordability is so important to elected officials that franchisees are investing their own
this sounds like legislators like you need to fucking help us so whatever you need to bring the
fucking cost down we'll help you do that shit yeah it's like we put money in your pocket
now it's time to make me look good right 100% like this isn't because we've talked about
I mean over the like the last since we've been doing this show it's always been like how
fucking expensive fast food is getting to the point where it's not even some shit
where you're like, bro, I can't have, like, I can eat fast food for cheap at least.
Now it's like, I got to count the coins in my pocket before I go to like McDonald's or
some shit.
Axios did report that McDonald's is, quote, taking the rare step of footing part of the bill
for its new extra value meals to win back cash strap diners.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
And there's probably no quid pro quo where, you know, the FDA looks the other way as they like
Just add an extra pound of sawdust to all of their products.
It's 100% beef dust.
Extra pound of sawdust is gnarly.
But it just feels like, so the greed is causing such bad optics for this administration.
They're begging slash coercing McDonald's into bringing prices down as a smokescreen.
Because we have heard McDonald's be like,
our customers can't even afford our product.
Like that is being talked about within the boardrooms.
Again, that means, are you willing to make less profits?
Are you willing to take that extreme step to make less money?
And I will say the McDonald's is franchisee-legged-based,
so you can put the pressure downward.
So you're not asking billionaires to take a pay cut.
You're asking them to put pressure on the, you know,
people who own the individual outlets.
Right, right.
So it's that that's a way of doing this that doesn't require you.
to put pressure on corporate America in any way.
It's really beautiful.
It's like a beautiful trick they've done.
But yeah,
this administration has been throwing out all kinds of ideas,
how to bring prices down.
And Trump has even gone up,
like gone back on being like,
Biden started the high prices,
but I will fix it.
And but now they're finding themselves and being like,
okay, so how?
And they're like,
ask them to lower the prices.
Yeah,
because you like, hey, y'all.
Anyone tried asking them?
Yeah, it requires them to do things
that are antithetical
to their entire worldview.
So, like, don't write socialist checks,
your capitalist ass can't cash.
Yeah.
You know, that's what he's trying to do.
Yeah.
You know, this is going to work so beautifully for them,
and that sort of drives me nuts.
Because I think for like the past,
it's not like a Republican or Democrat issue.
I think, like, the way that it's been working
for the past decade is that the top
one percent, Bernie Sanders
has been talking about this forever, the top one percent
has been just siphoning
money from the middle class and the lower
class like crazy. And now
that all of the money has already floated
to the top, they're going to trickle just a little
drop back down and they're going to act
like they're actually doing something.
Right. And the way that it's been working in Trump
world where they're just desperate for anything,
any sign of life in the Trump administration
that they're going to actually turn this into a win.
And I hate to say it, it's going to work.
And, you know, I saw a little bit of the video of him, like, going up and, like, talking about it.
And just the laughs that he got in the room when he was like, you know, I'm the first president that have been elected who was formerly a fry cook at McDonald's.
I think the way that the room erupted in laughter, I think tells you everything about how this is going to play out.
Yeah.
Is that because he did that one photo up as a fry cook?
Or is he taking a shot at Kamala?
No, he's just making fun of himself.
And I think the fact that people are just, it's a party and everybody.
It's like a big birthday celebration
more than it is any policy
movement. It's just
going to work out. His life is just one long
birthday party for him.
You know, and I think
the way that he photoshopped like the McDonald's
double arches on top of the White House
or not Photoshop that they always did the AI.
And they put grimace in a maga hat.
I think it's sort of the same
pattern of trying to create this
idealized version of the
success, trying to show Trump as
somebody who is actually solving problems.
As long as they can continue to manufacture that image, their base is going to think of
it as a success.
And we're not talking to them.
They're not talking to us anyways.
And so there really is no room for somebody to say, actually, is this actually going to make
a difference?
No, they're going to do.
Oh, no.
Look, Trump actually did lower the prices.
He did what he said he was going to do.
Well, I think that's where they're trying to find the thing where they're like, clearly
the, you know, voted Trump three times people are, they don't need to be convinced.
It's like all the people they kind of siphoned off in the presidential that they're like,
ah, fuck, like we're losing everybody too because they would tell everybody else who they think's
going to vote for a Democrat, like just eat shit.
We don't give a fuck.
But I think there is like that group, because especially with the number of like Latino voters
who are now just like the inversion of that coalition or the lack of support now,
they're like, uh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Why was their problem?
What are they mad about?
Oh, you know, just the kidnappings.
Should we just look at this clip where he talks about?
Yeah, we should talk about this because he is.
He does kind of have them eating out of his hand, and then he does something that's like,
I don't know what really happens here, but I just, as, you know, not just as a politician,
but as a person, it's worth watching this as a person.
Doing honest, beautiful, hard work and happy family sitting down to a really great meal.
Because no matter who you are, everyone loves something at McDonald's.
There's always something to have.
I like the fish.
I like it.
What?
You could do a little bit more tartar sauce someplace.
Seriously.
I hate one.
I said, do you have any tortoises?
Do you understand that?
Yes, they have.
The fish.
Wait, okay.
Was he shifting gears?
The fish.
And he like pushes his hand down a little bit.
So, all right.
My first impression is it seems like a clear attempt at a Homer Simpson audibly drooling thing.
Like a, you know what I mean?
Oh, okay.
But he like doesn't.
So he's just like, but what's the hand doing?
Because he's like, I like the fish.
And it looks like he's shifting into third gear, maybe.
Isn't he doing like a crunching sound?
Like a, he's simulating the roof of his mouth coming down on the fish.
Oh, okay.
He has a bit of an oral fixation, it feels like, the last year.
Yeah, I mean, it is, it's weird, like, maybe he has something in his throat.
I don't want to bring that up, couldn't you?
That has nothing to do with anything that's happening elsewhere in the news.
I'm just wondering if he had something in his throat.
It was a horse, okay?
I wouldn't be surprised.
Find a new fucking angle.
It was a fucking horse, all right?
The fact that he goes, I like the.
fish makes me wonder if he just like doesn't know where fish come from and he's just like
doing he's just like he thinks they're like created by a robot or something yeah i don't know he
makes like a 90 degree angle with this either way that's what he's trying to do he's getting them
to talk about anything but whatever's happening right now i i am curious though like how quickly
it like so prices will go down at macdonald's maybe for how long yeah but what about
everywhere else because everybody also has
bills to put like utility bills to pay
they have phone bills
to pay they've got grocery
costs that you know the one thing now
he's like they're trying to knock
eliminate the tariffs on things like coffee
and like tropical fruit and certain things to
just to give the illusion like oh some
things are coming down but I don't I think
he also misunderstands that
this is it this is a like a
fucking all encompassing
crisis of affordability it's not just
McDonald's became to
pricey but again to your point right that that's the they eat this shit right we'll go they're the same
shit as me but that's him too it's wages yeah and that's the other thing too and i think rather than
addressing any of those things it's easier to be like we're going to be cutting people of two thousand
dollars checks folks just to be like you know how about my wages go up how about my health care
costs you do something about the no no here's two thousand that's you know don't look into the
analysis of what happened in the lockdown it did contribute a bit to inflation although
Yeah, that would require buy-in at a very high level from, like, the C-suite, and that's not what he's requiring here.
Here, he's asking franchisees to make less money so that, you know, and franchises are not, like, C-suite millionaires.
There are people who own a single McDonald's franchise or, you know, a group of McDonald's.
If you got multiples, I hope you're- Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's some McDonald's franchisee kingpins for sure out here.
And also, he did tweet out that MAGA hat.
an image AI slop, essentially, of Grimmis wearing a MAGA hat, and then they immediately deleted it.
So I feel like McDonald's was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah.
They're like, don't, yeah, we don't.
That makes it even funnier, I'm not going to like.
Yeah.
Well, like the first one, they, they, they, they, they, I think they vetoed the one where it had a swastika armband on.
Right.
And then they're like, maybe this one.
Like all this, the AI slot that they've done, there was panic on the Trump side.
We're like, oh, that's too far.
That's too far.
take that down
but that's also
dropping poop on protesters
in Chicago
right right
what's also just funny
to me is like
that McDonald's has enough sway
they're like hey man
take that shit down
and they're like
sorry sorry yeah
I guess we got
too much white nationalist dip
on our chip there
sorry about that McDonald's
we will remove the post
at once
let's talk real quick
about the LAPD
who we've been on
a pretty steady
the police and human
caging system in America
is inhumane
doesn't work to make people safer
and it seems like the people in charge
of running that system might
be catching onto that fact
too. Crazy. Because in L.A.
We spend billions of dollars in tax money to
keep LAPD and
fast cars and new
guns. The finest guns.
We keep our police in the finest guns
and hells. Tearing through the sky and helicopters
nobody has really explained the purpose of
Oh, paying lawsuit
settlements for their illegal behavior.
A lot of that. That's actually
a huge burden on the city.
The helicopters, man. I feel like we got
a, I feel like we could
take over the golf courses.
If Mom Doni can get elected,
we can get rid of the LAPD
helicopters and take over the golf courses.
LAPD helicopters, like, don't, once you
just like take a second
to think about it, you're like, so that's just for
car chases? Like, that's
why the fuck do they need to be? Why does the
sky need to be constantly,
swarming with helicopters.
It's to also...
Also, had they heard of drones.
Right.
Oh, you know they have.
I've seen the budgets.
They're like, we need us a few of those.
But also, I'm sure they're like, but we also need the helicopters so we can just keep
a low-grade stress, like just a nice low-grade stress for low-income areas of the cities.
You're being watched.
Yeah, just buzzing down through neighborhoods to keep them alive.
You know, you're going to keep them awake.
You know, they have multiple purposes.
So on the question of what the money is being spent on and how...
It's working.
The LAPD is just like, we're not telling.
Just trust us.
It's for your own good.
That's essentially what they've gone with.
Right.
Because we used to have a crime map that you could look at at any time that was basically like,
here's the crime data website.
You can go look to your neighborhood.
You can just see there's records of like locations of crimes, use of force,
number of other, like all kinds of data.
Just like what the cops are up to.
And it was somewhat transparent.
By long.
There's a law, the public transparency law, that for years, the LAPD has had to maintain records to improve inspection and accountability, and then abruptly this year, they were like, you actually can't see it.
And when asked why, they said that the information, quote, has the potential to lead to misguided public policy discussions or unjustified public panic.
which I believe the first one is their concern that they're like, oh, man, you guys are going to cut our funding if you know what's actually going on.
But the idea that it would lead to public panic, they love some statistics that make them look like they are necessary and make their job look dangerous and make it look like they're having to fight things and crimes out of control.
When there's a crime, they're the first ones to tell you about that.
So I have to assume at this time of, like, rapidly dropping violent crime across American cities that their problem is not.
We don't want to show you guys because you can be too scared.
You're going to be too scared.
You're going to need us too much.
Yeah, we don't want you to see how much.
They think everyone is so dumb, man.
They think everyone is as dumb as them.
It's so patronizing to be like, oh, you guys wouldn't even wrap your head around this data that shows we're doing fuck all.
and wasting money because then you're going to know you don't even want to you're going to fucking panic or some shit dude
because it sounds like you that data is going to be so incriminating in terms of the just
just total waste of money that we pay these people who most of them don't even live in the
fucking city they're out of towners who come in to just fucking bad up the actual people who
live in the city yeah that right now there's a lot of back and forth trying to get this
information out the mayor's office has not even returned to any hasn't given any kind
of comment on this because yeah how are you going to defend this like
You don't want to be transparent with the data about what you're up to.
Then tell your story.
If you're so concerned about what people are going to get from this data,
then why don't you release it and you give whatever your analysis is
and then allow people to look through the raw data themselves.
That's all.
It's like a kid just being like, I got to tell you something,
but you're going to be mad at me.
I can't tell you.
You're going to be so mad at me.
Do you promise you're not going to be mad at me?
Then I'm not telling you.
You're going to get mad?
Well, did you do something bad?
I don't know.
Were you going to get mad?
Are you going to be mad?
I don't, I mean, I'm protecting you from this information because you're going to be so mad.
You're going to be so mad.
Oh, do you want to tell you.
This is what I didn't tell you nothing.
Shout on to that way is for this report.
You can almost imagine how that meeting went where they were just like, wait, why are we even giving this to people on the, why?
So they could be mad at us?
This is so dumb.
I'm sure.
Some poor low-level person had to go on the website and scroll.
Right. Or I'm sure some person who's in charge of that was like, whatever, you just always post it.
And so I'm like, don't fucking post this one. Don't fucking post this one. They're like, what, what, what? It's just the day.
It's like, oh, no. But what if we didn't? Yeah. No, no. There's a law. But what if there wasn't?
Yeah. But there is. Who's going to enforce the law? We're the police. Yeah, exactly. 100%. But yeah, I mean, like, because also like in 2015, the LA Times, like, they, you know, did an investigation show.
that the LAPD was involved
with all kinds of misclassification errors
that were artificially
lowering the city's crime levels.
So we're just messy.
We're just messy, guys.
We're like loose cannons.
Did you ever see Riggs or John McLean
doing fucking paperwork?
Hell no, dude.
They hated it.
Beating the shit out of people.
Aren't you guys happy, though?
Look at the numbers.
This is what you wanted.
They're lower than ever.
Yeah, I mean, I think
I think the biggest thing is really for people to understand how much tax revenue that like L.A. County generates or even just even L.A. City does. And you look at the services we have. And then you just look at how much of that money goes to police overtime and settling these lawsuits for their fucking actions of impropriety to put it lightly. Yeah. It's it would, it's mind numbing. And people are like, damn, why the streets look like this? I'm like, because of LAPD.
Right. You say, why do the streets?
It looks like this as a helicopter flies over your head.
It's like gunship.
It drives me nuts because in New York we're having this whole news cycle discussion
about what Zoran means when he meant when he said defunded the police like 10 years ago.
And it's so easy for people to just explain it, right?
It's simple.
You take some of the budget that's out like that's being wasted,
that's actually not being used for good police work,
and you spend it on services so that the police aren't being overwhelmed with
non-stop calls for every little thing.
It just makes sense when you hear it said out loud,
but then it just, it doesn't even matter.
You take these things.
What you're saying is, oh, so you want crime?
Oh, are you pro-crime then?
Oh, so you want people to kill you?
Yes, look at me.
I'm pro-crime.
Look at me.
I've lost my mind and I'm pro-crime.
And my fantasy is to get fucking robbed every time I leave the house.
That's my dream, right?
Because that's what a reasonable person says, no.
Like, to your point, it's like, we take all the money they fucking waste.
Like, we don't be spending $4,000 a minute on helicopters, and putting that into the social safety net programs that, like, to your point, you know, lead to actually less pride.
And because we live in a democracy, it all hinges on whether or not this group and that group can have a conversation.
And it just, we so clearly can't.
All of our policies are being based off of what slogan sounds better in.
how much a happy meal will now cost
I mean like I wonder if there even is a way to tell
these cops like look guys y'all are making a lot of money
all right yeah we're gonna take a little
we're taking some money away okay
and you still get to drive your gigantic truck
yeah wouldn't it be nice to like not respond to everything
yeah right right it's like but we gotta work this out baby
this ain't this isn't just some shit that you can just
bleed the city dry with all your fucking overtime shit
you talk to the cops and like a lot of them are like
yeah i don't like that
there are no mental health resources in the city.
That's bad for us.
Yeah, even then they're in elegant way.
You can't fix everything with a cop.
You can just throw a cop, I didn't expect it to work out.
Not according to Joe Biden who gave that speech.
It's like, what, you want to defund the police?
The police are our psychiatrists.
There are doctors.
Our lovers.
There are lovers.
Does anyone ask corn pop if he knows who Bob is?
That's a great question.
We need to find out.
I don't even think, I don't even know if corn pop knows who corn pop, that they are corn pop.
Joe Pied, I just think some random black dude he shook hands with like 70 years ago.
And he's like, yeah, corn pop was a bad guy.
You're like, okay, sir.
How don't you fat?
What?
If corn pop in the Fccene files?
You never know?
Has that been searched?
That's your job as a journalist to tell us.
Yeah.
I got to Google this.
Yeah.
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We're back.
And let's talk about, first of all, why Nikki Minaj is addressing the UN.
Addressed the UN yesterday.
Her involvement was arranged by the Trump administration.
She tweeted.
Thank you, Minaj, couldn't address the UN just off the strength of her and the Barbes?
I know.
You would think so.
Okay.
But writing in a post, Ambassador, I am so grateful to be entrusted with an opportunity of this magnitude.
I do not take it for granted.
It means more than you know, the Barbes and I will never stand down in the face of injustice.
We've been given our influence by God.
There must be a bigger purpose.
What about your husband?
Trump media advisor, Alex Bruce Witts, who's also expected to speak at the event.
And this was to highlight claims of Christian.
persecution in Nigeria, which, first of all, I do just want to say, now we've got two of the three
people on Monster now fully aligned with the right.
Only Jay-Z's our last holdout.
I mean, I'd say he's low-key, you know, as a billionaire.
Yeah, yeah.
He's part of that set.
But, yeah, he's not, he hasn't openly.
He hasn't fully, like, become a part of the Trump administration.
Did you imagine?
He's like,
and he has who better
than Sean Carter
as my liaison
for housing and urban development?
He said the streets
is watching and he knew.
It's kind of nice
when people like this get involved
and they do like
want to take a position.
I think it's really cool.
It's just Nikki Minajave of all people.
I don't think I ever got over
once she talked about
how the COVID vaccine
will make your testicle swollen.
Yeah.
Remember that cousin?
Was her cousin?
Yeah.
Oh, that's famous cousin.
Called off because they took up
the COVID vaccine.
It's like, yeah, it's good. We should want people to, like, take stances and be political, you know, politically involved. Yeah, but like, don't get your politics online. Yeah. Don't get your politics. Don't get charged up off a Bill Maher segment. Yeah. So that's rule one. This is what happened. Earlier this month, she praised Trump for threatening military action against Nigeria over the slaughter of Christians. Trump alleged air quotes for slaughter. I think it's important to say. Yeah, yeah.
over the quote-unquote slaughter of Christians.
He ordered the military to prepare for action in Nigeria to tackle Islamist militant groups
because the government is failing to protect Christians and promise to do things to Nigeria
that Nigeria is not going to be happy about.
He always does shit like that like he's flirting.
And, you know, obviously he doesn't give a fuck about Nigerians, but this gives conservatives
an excuse to paint Christians as the real victims in our world.
They're so horny to be, like, persecuted.
Gosh, yeah.
You know?
And in 2020, he similarly stated the government of Nigeria was not doing enough to protect the safety of Nigerians, especially Christians.
And there's been, like, Ted Cruz has recently come out and been like 50,000 Christians have been killed since 2009 by armed Islamist groups in Nigeria.
Of course, he did not cite sources for the information.
And we think, like this really got going.
a week before Cruz's tweet
because Bill Maher on his show
is it still what the fuck's the real time or whatever the fuck
I don't know yeah real time real talk real whatever the fuck
racist self-hating loser show
he used his HBO show to claim that Islamists
Boko Haram are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria
okay this is new rules
new rule this is so much
much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza.
They're literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country.
His sources, according to people who are actual journalists, say that it's largely fabricated claims and manipulated images from unverified outlets.
But of course, that segment was later picked up by Fox News, which is how it gets to Trump and Ted Cruz, which is how it then gets to Nikki Minaj.
Wonderful.
Love that. Love that pipeline.
The Bill Amar to Nikki Minaj UN pipeline, really, really impressive.
And I mean, God, do people, don't people know Bill Maher?
Like, I don't even know how the fuck he's still on HBO.
This guy has such a sordid record of Islamophobic bullshit that he says on his show for fucking decades.
Yes.
That any time he mentions anything outside of him wanting to have sex with, like, video vixons from the, like, 2000s.
Oh, my brother, this is some fucking bullshit.
This is some lie.
Yeah, and just to think that it goes from there to now this whole sort of narrative that they're really trying to get going of like, let's, we, honestly, we need to protect Christians everywhere. And maybe that's a justification for increased militarism around the world. I don't know, maybe. Or just to change the optics a bit.
Yeah, turn it into a religious war. That's the right to be what they're going for. Yeah, they want to be able to like clap back at the accusations of the genocide.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, he dropped that report around the time that Nigeria's voice support for a two-state solution to the Palestinian conflict at the 2025 U.N. General Assembly. So he went and like cherry-picked fake sources from across the internet and then, you know, put together a segment basically being like, oh, interesting. That's rich coming from you, Nigeria.
Right. Well, they're also using the shorthand. Islamist group means the crucible.
sades against Christian people.
It's like, do you know anything about Boko Haram?
Yeah.
You read about it?
Boko Haram has positioned itself against the Nigerian state as an apostate entity,
not against any single religious group.
There's no one motive behind the attacks.
Not only is it not a genocide against Christians,
but the majority of victims of the armed group are Muslims.
Yeah, it's sad, man.
No, Boko Haram is a real problem to him.
And it's like one of many of the victims.
these kinds of paramilitary groups that feed off of young kids and they go in these places
they kid up to kids and they raise them up to be fighters and it's fucking awful.
And it's just really sad that this only comes up in the context of, oh, well, you thought
that what we were doing was bad.
How come I don't hear you talking about this?
And the same thing goes for what's happening in Sudan, man.
It's devastating.
It's devastating if you're keeping up with what's happening over there.
But I only ever see it being talked about online in the context of like, oh, well, how come
we're not protesting against this.
Yes.
I just need, I only find out about this stuff when it's brought up by a major pop diva.
I need that.
Yeah, with questionable marital choices, yeah.
Yeah.
I need Lady Gaga to weigh in on Sudan before.
I'm sitting, I'm sitting on my, keeping my powder dry till Lady Gaga and Olivia Rodriguez chiming.
Olivia Rodriguez would be very interested to hear what she has to say.
I mean, she's younger.
I feel like she probably has something to say.
I feel like the younger ones definitely aren't.
What is Sabrina Carpenter said about that?
Serena Carpenter would be also interesting.
I think she probably prefers to stay uninvolved.
For some reason, I can't not picture her as young Hillary Clinton anymore.
What I saw that side by side?
I was just like, damn.
Oh, I haven't seen that yet.
I'm going to look at all.
You know what, Miles?
I'm going to stick with my original stance because one thing's for sure is that
absently and without information accusing pop divas of things never
backfires on the internet.
Yeah. Taylor Swift fans
are pretty cool and reasonable.
And don't get mad if you,
if you're just like, I don't know.
They seem like kind of a weird couple.
They're like,
fuck you.
Amen,
such a pleasure having you as always.
Where can people find you,
follow you,
all that good stuff?
Mostly on Instagram,
posting dumb stuff.
Usually my articles.
And yeah,
I'm in the middle of my book tour.
So please check in.
to see where I'm going to be next. I'm going to be in Miami
next week and then Seattle
two weeks after that. So yeah,
I'm being all over talking about becoming
Bubba talking about my journalism.
There you go. Saying yes to everything.
There it is. Is there a work of media
that you've been enjoying?
You know,
I've been really enjoying
the Daily Zeitgeist, I think.
Oh, shit. Have you guys heard that show? It's so crazy.
Hey, for the listeners, I don't know if y'all
heard this show. I was on board
until they were fucking rude about Sabrina Carpenter.
Jack clearly has an anti-Sabrina Carpenter.
They're not nice to tell us with fans, I've heard.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's, yeah, yeah.
But they are asking the real questions.
Yeah, like, like, why aren't they buying our crypto coins?
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Or a horse.
No, seriously, I love coming on the show. I love talking to you guys. I love listening.
I listen as often as I can. You guys are literally doing the real work out here, man.
Oh, no.
Oh, thank so much, man.
You says the guy who.
Coming from somebody who's actually doing the...
Who hand-typed a January 6th journalist.
From the front lines of an actual insurrection.
I would say we're about 20 levels lower, but we're on the same tree.
We appreciate that.
I love you guys.
Just don't never let me catch you with a laptop on the train.
No, never, never.
On a train?
I mean, not on the subway, right?
No, on the subway, you see it all the time.
Oh, the subway is fine, but like...
He's not talking to Amtrak.
He's talking to New York train.
Yeah, you can do Amtrak, though.
I mean, that's what the Amtrak's for.
No, Amtrak is nice.
It's like every seat is like its own little room.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Miles, we had to let Amon go to, you know, go get his kid from school.
So.
To the transparency there, yep.
I just want the transparency.
At this school, if you want to meet him there.
It's in New Jersey.
But I do, I'm dying to ask you.
Where can people find you?
And is there a work in media you've been enjoying it?
You know, after all these.
these years it still feels sincere jack i gotta say uh you can find me everywhere at miles of gray
you find me talking about 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance that's the show i do with
sophia alexandra um let's see a work of media i like
no okay oh i can give you one you know what we have a new uh format of the daily zeitgeist
in case you missed it
Evergreen episodes drop in Monday morning,
the first episode of this new format about icons,
deep dives into icons about Einstein,
dropped on Monday morning.
You can go back in the feed and find it.
And then, yeah,
these are going to be dropping weekly for a little while.
Just so, you know, we want to, I think,
we've talked about it before.
It's like, we want to keep talking,
but also not talk about the creeping fat news.
Or not even creeping, whatever, ever-present.
Yeah, ever-present.
Yeah, ever-present.
oppressive fascism. It's a fun
one. It's a, you know, when the
photographer's like, do a silly one just for
us. That's what these are, yep.
Yeah, that's what these are. I don't like a muster
up is sticking my tongue out.
Like Einstein.
Yeah, there you go.
Was that what you were going to say? Or you had
something else? No, I was just thinking about what I was
watching yesterday,
and I don't want to admit that I was watching
below deck as much as I was.
And you haven't. And the good thing is, you haven't
admitted that.
The thing is, I was lying when I just said that out loud.
In addition to our new format,
Evergreen Daily Zika's on Monday morning,
about icons.
I've been enjoying a couple tweets.
Mia Chateau tweeted the worst part of being a good listener
is that people get creeped out by the information
I've retained about them just from listening.
Have you ever had that?
Where you're like, oh, yeah, you were in Texas, like last year?
and they're like wow good memory but like they get kind of freaked out or like I feel like it's like
a competition where they're like fuck I don't know where this guy was last year at all yeah yeah yeah I have
I have a memory like that it helps definitely in like uh business settings because they're like yeah
god this guy you are my name man shit you're not a business man you're a business man now let me
handle my business now uh so I was enjoying that I was enjoying uh so there was a newswire report
Newswire underscore U.S. Trump, I wasn't with Epstein all the time at all. And I hit you unemployed flop, Andrew Cuomo, retweeted that and said, Tim Robinson-ass syntax.
Oh, my God. I wasn't with Epstein all the time at all. All the time at all. Wow. And then No Context Humans tweeted a video with the tagline. It's the simple things. It's just these kids throwing an apple. They're like around a,
a light pole that has like a point on the top of the light and they're just throwing an apple
and trying to stick it onto the point on the top and then they get it and just the pure joy
like that they feel again this goes this goes with the things we've been talking about about
just like pure mind numbing like doing shit just to do stuff I like those little challenges that
you can set for yourself oh yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find me
on Blue Sky at Jack O.B. the number one.
You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist.
We're at The Daily Zekegeist on Instagram.
You can go to this episode wherever you're listening to it.
And in the description, at the bottom, you will find the footnotes,
which is where we link off to the information that we talked about.
In today's episode, we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?
Yes, there is, I was just listening.
TikTok serves you all kinds of music
And there's like you know
This is a genre of like Coritos that are called trap
Coritos and this artist Junior H is like fucking
You know up there
And I think I've just realized too
Because I listen to all kinds of music
I'll listen to a lot of electronic music
And then you kind of need to hear people playing instruments
And really just like kind of singing and shit
This is called Sad Boys 2 dollar sign for the for the S
and Sad Boys I-I like Boys to Men
but yeah this is junior h most people have probably heard this song but if you haven't just just familiarize yourself with a new genre of music that maybe you don't listen to as much because they're not singing in english so this is junior h hs with sad boys too
All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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