The Daily Zeitgeist - Majoring In Advanced Home Alone Theory, Gork = Meme Brained Loser AI 12.07.23

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

In episode 1594, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Even Congress Is Over Congress, Grok: The Anti-Woke Chatbot Is Finally Here... And Already A Fail...ure, Hold On--This Dead Kevin Theory Of Home Alone Is Interesting… And more! Even Congress Is Over Congress Grok: The Anti-Woke Chatbot Is Finally Here... And Already A Failure Musk says his AI firm xAI is rolling out chatbot Grok to X Premium+ subscribers Grok is Elon Musk’s new sassy, foul-mouthed AI. But who exactly is it made for? Hold On--This Dead Kevin Theory Of Home Alone Is Interesting… LISTEN: Fly by OpossomSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:33 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 316, Episode 5 of Der Daily's iGhost Day, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is friday december 8th 2023 yeah hey shout out yeah shout out the puzzlers national national crossword solvers day that's such a very wordy one uh national brownie day national salesperson day shout out to everybody in sales trying to get theirs. And also, this one's so weird. Pretend to be a time traveler day? No.
Starting point is 00:02:10 No, thank you. I get high enough and hours go by. I guess if you're using it as a way to appreciate the modern world, be like, look at these advances. Right. Just be the most annoying person all day. Oh, what is that spooky contraption? Even then, I think I'm off it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 That's like in that episode of The Office when the Ben Franklin impersonator came in and was trying to act like he was in the fucking 1700s and shit. Just like fully method. Yeah. By the way, I found a good the office fan theory that they're all suffering from radon poisoning as the show proceeds uh on reddit because we're going to discuss a fan theory a little bit later on and i was like going through
Starting point is 00:02:58 being like what are some other blank was dead all along fan theories and like the top one of the top red subreddit fan theories is that they're all suffering from radon poisoning at that factory because like in an early season i guess toby's really worried about radon poisoning and everyone's like shut up toby but then like the characters kind of get dumber as they as the show goes the the flanderization of the characters becoming more over the top and they're like that's because radon poison oh shit for a second i thought you're talking about radon chong the actress and then i realized that you're saying yep yep yep that part you thought i was saying that they were suffering from radon chong poisoning like i don't know someone had to do a radon i don't know why though my whole radon maybe i got radon poisoning uh all right my name is jack o'brien aka let's see massive balls
Starting point is 00:03:57 massive balls testicles for days scrote so big that you would think it's a giant's massive dong. Hey! That is courtesy of Warren the Werebear saying happy December everyone. Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack and the Giant Ballsack. Yeah. An ode to Jack and the Giant Beanstalk.
Starting point is 00:04:19 An ode to my medical condition. An ode to what the kids would always call me. But, yeah. I will not get tired of talking about the guy who thought the dinosaur bone was a giant testicle. Was giant, giant, giant's testicles. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Das Nota. You lie. You notice. Ball skin. Again, I got to go back to the fucking femur bone that the guy found. We can't get off of this. The guy thought it was fucking a big ball sack and it was a dinosaur bone. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And I just came up with that. AKA too. Hell yeah. Yeah. That was for me. And that was for y'all. We keep moving. Because it also suggests,
Starting point is 00:05:16 like we've said that his ball sack is connected to his penis in like a very weird way. Yeah. That it's like mechanically part of his skeletal structure yeah so yeah it's hard to know it's hard to know like i i wrote a sketch early for stuff that must have happened uncracked that was like the guy the guy who drew the penis the big golden penis in the background of the little mermaid poster right and he has there's a quote like i researched him i was like
Starting point is 00:05:46 why did he do that and he was like i did not i do not think that looks like a penis sir and i was like so you must have a very unique looking penis yeah yeah yeah you must have a strange looking penis and similar with the ball sack guy it's like your balls must be like have a weird relationship to the skeletal structure of your body. If that if you thought that was a giant scrotum. Yeah. Anyways, again, more questions than answers, I think, is what we've been saying. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You know him from the Yo! Is This Racist podcast. It's Andrew T! Andrew! What up? I'm just going to say, aka the procrastinator, because I completely did have, I had nothing prepared
Starting point is 00:06:39 for everything we're about to talk about. And I am currently, I was just, I was just about to, i've been let's see we'll say i've been not working on this thing that i really should try to get done yeah for about like 15 consecutive like work hours now right yeah it's like two two and a half days ish yeah into into day three i just don't want to do it. I got this note on a script that I'm like, I can't
Starting point is 00:07:08 make it work. Your pain is our gain because your procrastination when we hit you up and said somebody had to back out last second, we got Andrew T, baby. I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Frantically reading the document right now. It's like, great. Andrew T baby I'm ready to go frantically reading the document right now it's like great it's not rewriting this script and so it's great you know honestly I was about to like either I was going to work out and re-clean the kitchen oh re-clean
Starting point is 00:07:40 damn it's time for a deep clean I seasoned a carbon steel walk that doesn't need seasoning oh wow like no you really shouldn't you're like i just did i just did it who cares yeah yeah yeah are you uh dude i see like all the pure those carbon steel pans i see popping up so much now not just like in walk form. I feel like everybody's on carbon steel now. Yeah. This is the first carbon steel thing I've ever owned.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's better than I... And I got a cheapo one. It's very fit. I had to throw out... I didn't have to, I suppose. But I realized the walk I'd been using was one that I got in New York Chinatown when I was just out of college yeah and it probably in price averaged out to about 70 cents a year i've owned it
Starting point is 00:08:34 and that thing was sort of more rust than wok by the time i threw it out i got tetanus every time i ate something yeah that that shit had to go so i just got like a like a cheapo like carbon carbon cell not cheapo a medium cheapo yeah carbon so and it's pretty good yeah what is this red rub onica is that yeah paprika what is that really crunchy too kind of minerally i yeah that i was not taking such good care of the old walk or r.i.p to that was i mean thank you for your service the old walk yeah that's a great way to think about like the cents per year is it yeah that thing lasted a long fucking time and it was very cheap and i brought it from new york which is in retrospect very stupid like it was made to be thrown away right right i just did it you brought it with you like on the plane and shit yeah like holding it yeah only carry on
Starting point is 00:09:38 yeah i have been doing uh my morning eggs japanese-ish style, with little cornstarch water in the eggs to do like how you do an amur rice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my free holiday tip. Have you seen the tornado egg?
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah. It's kind of that vibe, too. I'm not fully doing all the thing with the chopsticks and shit. It's that vibe, too. Yeah, I'm not fully doing all the thing with the chopsticks and shit. Yeah, but it's that vibe-ish. Yeah, it looks cool. I mean, it looks better than it is. That's what I give the tornado egg.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah, that's right. All those eggs are like... But it's a lot easier, because that way, with the cornstarch slurry, you don't have to watch it as closely. It doesn't like overcook nearly as quickly so that's mainly why i do it yeah anyway i put water in my eggs that's i don't do cornstarch water that way try a little try a little stuff i don't the answer to your
Starting point is 00:10:37 question is i don't know what does it do not not sure i mean the water makes it very tender not that my eggs were like chewy before but you know that makes it like very soft and it's very difficult to overcook them you know yes yeah like stays nice and soft they stay a little bit more tender more tender you know yeah that's what it does that's just buys a little bit a little bit of corn or potato starch just like i do like the amount that the the vessel that i used to get it out of the container is a fork so however much can basically fit on the tines of a fork plus like a little bit of water plus eggs you know whatever i kind of eyeball it but just a little bit of cornstarch yeah that's eggs are for for someone who has kind of congenitally high cholesterol
Starting point is 00:11:27 eggs like i always knew eggs were a thing that people were like they have a lot of cholesterol like one egg has like 70 of your daily allotment of cholesterol i think i was reading somewhere I eat so many eggs. This is my brain, clearly. My underrated is also a breakfast thing. I just forgot that I typed that 20 seconds ago. Nice. Are we going to find it? Get ready. This is a breakfast.
Starting point is 00:11:57 This is a real breakfast. Breakfast theme. This podcast, what I'm bringing to the table this episode is basically like usual suspect style. I'm only going to be talking about the things that I just did or can see right now. Just pulling things
Starting point is 00:12:14 off the wall. That's my level of prep. If it's in my field of vision or it's in my short-term memory, that's all I got. One egg, 62 62 daily value of cholesterol that's too much i'm fucked right damn son damn son how you gonna unclog that any omelet means you should you should eat like no more animal matter basically if you have an
Starting point is 00:12:41 omelet in the morning right right right that's it. That's it. Vegan, but omelet for cholesterol. You're on a juice cleanse for the rest of the day. Right, right. All right, think about it, folks. All right. What could possibly go wrong? Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Everyone's quitting Congress. We're going to talk about that. Grok, also in the good news category, Grok, the anti-woke chatbot is finally here. Wait, is it Grok? Grok, probably, right? Either one. It's like, yeah, it's so,
Starting point is 00:13:14 it's just like when you look at those four letters, you're like, man, fuck this thing. G-R-O-K, whatever you are. Yeah, I feel like if it was Grok, it would be G-R-O-C-K, but. Can I just say, neither of you guys have spent time in the computer programming trenches it's definitely grok and grok is computer person like white guy like your white it guy with a beard who like you don't want to talk to yeah slang for understand oh shit i like that dude yeah yeah is it like a verb like I grok that or are they
Starting point is 00:13:48 just like grok do you grok what I'm saying get the fuck out of here I believe I would maybe you get your ass kicked saying something like that in most places Overwatch 2 is a complicated game that will take a long time for new players to
Starting point is 00:14:04 fully grok oh right yeah we don't need to Overwatch 2 is a complicated game that will take a long time for new players to fully grok. Oh, right. Yeah, we don't need to. Anyway, I promise you it's grok, and it's the worst thing. It's the worst. Well, I grok. Cool.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So we've got that. And we'll look at the dead Kevin theory of Home Alone, because it's kind of interesting. And, yeah, I don't know. I love it. It's good. It's solid. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:14:33 I had to look this up because I realized I was talking so much shit immediately after watching the movie Salt Burn with my friend. And then I very quickly became clear I didn't know what the fuck I was talking about because I didn't basically what I had to search was is Salt Burn a book and the answer is it is absolutely not a book Salt Burn is
Starting point is 00:14:58 the what's her name Emerald Fresnel directed this new movie that's out I think it's in theaters promising young woman director also played Camilla Bowles in The Crown. Oh, I did not know that. I did not watch The Crown. I don't know anything about... I have a
Starting point is 00:15:14 real limit to... All the British white people kind of become the same person to me. Wow. Wow. Wow. Really? Really? As soon as we... All of them? All the royals that have the same genetics? Wow, wow, wow. Sorry, bro. As soon as... All of them? All the royals?
Starting point is 00:15:27 That have the same genetics? We all look the same to you, is it? We shrugged off the yoke of colonialism and they all went back to their faceless white masses. They always should have been. But, uh, yeah. Because it's just, it's in that style
Starting point is 00:15:44 of, like, the fucking, the fucking like you know school boy at private college public college whatever they fucking call it like this shit was written by ian or not ian fleming what's that guy's name who writes those mckellen ian mckellen yes yeah that it's it's that kind of shit where i was like this has to be a fucking book right what i will say is no i wait gandalf yeah not gandalf wait wait i thought you were pg wodehouse ian mckeown the atonement guy yes it's that kind of bullshit it's like and it does play with that form that clearly i am very very very unfamiliar with so i mostly enjoyed that movie on a i'm loving watching these the horrible white
Starting point is 00:16:27 people do horrible things to each other and yeah it's fucking it's it's entertaining i i it's definitely one of those movies i walked out of i you know as part of this conversation i did realize i didn't understand probably anything that fucking happened actually in it, but... You're like, that dude went to Oxford, right? I got that part. Very fun to watch. It's like about class in the UK, and so there's all sorts of signaling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Mannerisms and shit. All kinds of signaling and mannerisms and some shit where I'm like... Yeah. I guess without getting into spoilers too I was like I don't I think this doesn't this no longer means what I think they think
Starting point is 00:17:12 it should mean but what do I know plus salt doesn't burn pepper burn salt don't burn I know and cornstarch what do you mean you get salt in a wound that. And cornstarch. Cornstarch don't...
Starting point is 00:17:25 What do you mean? You get salt in a wound, that could hurt. Cornstarch can't melt steel beams. That's true. In this house, we believe that X is actually still called Twitter and cornstarch cannot melt steel beams. There we go. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:17:42 This is something I'm realizing I was about to say. I think there's like a medium chance I said the identical thing at about this time last year on this show. Okay. But I'll say it again, which is like it's I just want to say I understand this makes
Starting point is 00:17:58 me like a kind of gatekeep-y dick, but it is once again the holiday season and the mutual aid group that I try to help out with called Solidarity Snacks. We're out there every Saturday on Skid Row. Solidarity Snacks is my plug also. But it is so like bonkers how much like just the between Thanksgiving and Christmas like charity comes in. Like there's just so many fucking like church groups and people mostly church groups i'm being honest who are there like one time a year they're like this is
Starting point is 00:18:32 when everybody gets interested yeah it's really just like you know people are fucking like need resources in april also right like and also, you can feel guilty about what you have and others don't year-round, actually. You really need that to motivate your charity. It really is this weird vibe where you just see all these people that you're like, I know I'm never going to see you again, or maybe I'll see you next Christmas, basically.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But, you know, it's better than not. And obviously, for many reasons, there's not enough stuff for anyone, but it is a little, just like consider giving at all times or contributing to your community at all times of the year. Not just, not just the one,
Starting point is 00:19:16 or if you're really cool, like even if, even if you're like group is only good for once a year, like just like maybe do it the week after, January. It looks cooler. January is for working on myself, not other people. That's what I'm working on, these abs.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It's more effective. Or just give money. Right, exactly. It's like, alright, show up in December, but for the other 11 months, put a little bit in the hat. And then when you show up, be like, yo, we're here, and we got it back. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, sorry. This is both counterproductive, gatekeepy,
Starting point is 00:19:52 and not cool of me, but it's overrated. Look, you're giving your perspective, and you're not trying to say that it's an absolute. We get it. Really, I'm just like, it is one of those like figuratively get the fuck out of here and obviously literally thank you for doing something in like doing that kind
Starting point is 00:20:11 of work too you can definitely see people who are like there to like absolve themselves yeah they're bad behavior like you know like we're like you see people really pat themselves on the back in a way where it feels performative. It's fine if you have one time a year or something to do something. But you can definitely notice an energy, too, where it's like, aren't we so good for doing this? And I will not fucking think about it until the pastor gets me into it 11 months from now. Well, there's also the element of proselytizing that occurs in those instances. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Just fucking hand the shit out. This present's not from me. It's from Jesus. Yeah, exactly. All that being said, anything is good at any time, of course. Better to do something than nothing, but maybe
Starting point is 00:21:01 not all at once at the time when it's most convenient and feel goody for you yeah you have like a nice fun soundtrack of christmas songs often that's the only time of the year we we take we try to go every i mean i think we've been successfully going every saturday for like almost three years now and the only time that we just schedule a we're not going to be there is like the one right around Christmas Day. It's just like everybody else. So much.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Everyone else got this. Yeah. Not that we got anything, but you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:21:35 What's something you think is underwritten? All right. All right. Get ready. This is more breakfast talk. And actually, probably related. Just like a straight up salad for breakfast. Nothing. Just leave. No, like. Yeah. No, no, not. Well, like, or whatever. Like salad. and actually probably related just like a straight up salad for breakfast nothing just
Starting point is 00:21:45 no like yeah no no not well like or whatever like salad but yeah no no nod towards like there's an egg in it there's no like kale with a runny egg or anything just like it's just a normal ass depressing bag salad if you got it that's from tj's what, this is, yeah, I literally had a, even worse. I had a Vons bag salad for breakfast yesterday. And I was like, this is not ideal. It was mostly because it was like probably gonna, it was near the end of it's,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you should eat this. Yeah. When the leaves are looking real sad in there. But I weirdly did feel more good than I like to admit yesterday. Yeah. Then if you ate like a pile of eggs. Yeah, exactly. The eggs that are going to kill you.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And so did you put it on a bagel? Jack, no! Just a regular salad, bro! Did you toast it? A regular salad on a stack of flapjacks? Jack, no, no, man! Just a regular... I did actually... My nod to breakfast was I had like a
Starting point is 00:22:48 fucking cranberry kale and broccoli stem salad from Vons and a cup of black coffee. There you go. There you go. So that was my breakfast. That's grim, man. That feels grim.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'm on a black coffee kick too grim as fuck yeah i've been doing this thing i got this is just based off of like 25 seconds of youtube advice so i don't even know if this is good but i've been doing because it's just myself in here pour over coffee one cup of pour over in the morning and then the thing that i saw that i've been trying that i think is working a cold bloom on the grounds instead of a hot bloom so for the bloom usually you put a little bit of your hot water on the beans let that kick it for like 30 seconds a minute and they're saying just to put cold water first like like room temp i've been putting like like kind of like let's see it's all in fucking centigrade so i'm trying like like about uh like how do i've been putting like like kind of like let's see it's all in fucking centigrade so i'm trying like like about uh like how do i translate this for wow you're on that
Starting point is 00:23:50 coffee shit to the point that you went to centigrade wow it's probably 60 some 60 70 degree no 80 degrees maybe something like that okay so it's not like cold cold oh okay but it's not it's not yeah it's not what do you do it at 20 But it's not hot. It's not boiling yet. What do you do it at? 205? 205 Fahrenheit? That's exactly what my kettle is set to. 205. I know y'all.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I know. I know how y'all move. And so the cold bloom, but bloom for longer, like two minutes, it's been tasting pretty good. I can't wait to be this new beans too. Yeah. Think about it. Are you so sort of thinking about the flavor that are you like hand grind like are you taking a lot of steps to like that all these little things i got a nice ish uh
Starting point is 00:24:31 grinder okay damn like like one of those but not i do have a hand grinder but i guess i could go back to using i threw that into my camping stuff because oh yeah that's good. It makes sense there. Now, I know what a cold and hot bloom are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the listener, of course. All right. So, what are you doing? It would be helpful. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Pour over, right. You have, you grounds, and you put it in the little fucking funnel thing. And this is like if you're at a fancy coffee shop where they, like, you see them pour out a little kettle, like measuring little scale. them pour out of your little kettle like measuring little scale um the bloom is at the beginning where you put in yeah uh usually three times the amount of water as weight compared to the beans so if you have 15 grams of beans you put 45 grams of water and just let it sit and what the bloom does and that's the time when all the carbon dioxide comes up so the little like looks like a little foam the coffee coffee grounds are blooming.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And so most people do that at boiling hot and just throw it out there, you know, try it cold-ish. Colder, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Summer pool temperature. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Like cool, but not cold. Yeah, because if you're living out like in Chicago right now, then you open up your tap.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Not that. Not that. No, no, no, no. that's true i i i do i put the kettle on and i just like kind of in the middle of it grab it out do the bloom and then put it back on the on the warmer it's like you first hear that little cough of like that's yeah yeah anyway that's what I went up to. Damn. Breakfast advice. Breakfast salad. Cornstarch in your eggs. It's because it just happened. The only reason I can tell you this is because it just happened. And also, mason jars. Also underrated.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My phone. I'm loving my phone. I'm loving this candle from Costco that's on my desk. I don't think I'd be able to get used to like the where you pour the milk over the salad like it's cereal which i have to assume is what you're doing breakfast salad and also this this bugs bunny in space jam toy from the 90s that a Yoastist racist listener sent. Wow. Wow, that looks like some shit you'd win at Magic Mountain
Starting point is 00:26:47 like back in the day. It feels like, I can't remember why we were pretty convinced it was like official-ish. Yeah, it does look pretty official. It also looks like he has like he's about to, or like he's just suffered a headshot. There's something about his
Starting point is 00:27:03 like facial expression, like he's kind of looking up like he's just suffered a headshot. There's something about his like facial expression. Like he's kind of looking up and his mouth is a gape. Yeah. His eyes, his eyes are, let's just say they were, they were not, they seem like they were,
Starting point is 00:27:14 it's a toy from the nineties. So I, no, dude, it looks like people are selling it. Oh no. The eyes are just as fucked up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Nevermind. I was going to say, I thought mine might be the result of, this one has a tag though. Okay, never mind. I was going to say, I thought mine might be the result of... This one has a tag, though, on this eBay list. All right, about $20 to $10-ish. I thought mine might be the result of, you know, the, we'll say,
Starting point is 00:27:36 undercompensated labor who was... Right, right, right. Who has no need to give a fuck what the eyes look like when they're put in. Yeah. Yeah. Might be perspiring while he puts the yeah yeah yeah and in some kind of shop yes all right let's take a quick break we'll be right
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Starting point is 00:31:02 And we're back. We're back. and we're back we're back and yeah so it seems like we're just there's a lot of stories about people leaving congress yeah like more than their own will with their own will like on purpose yeah more more than normal even what's going on here miles i think it's just it's like the feeling i'm getting is like wow even congress is over Congress at this point. Because the last couple of weeks, we've seen a lot of people, right? Just in November alone, 13 members of the House and Senate saying, yeah, that's a wrap for us, bro. We're not running for re-election. And that's a number that hasn't been seen in like over a decade. And, you know, more notably, we had George Santos,
Starting point is 00:31:43 he got the boot. McCarthy fucking rage quit. You know, he was like, not only am I not running for reelection, I'm not even going to be back from break after this. Okay. I'm gone in January. You will not see me anymore. And even old bow tie McHenry, the man who got to have the gavel for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Oh, I didn't know who you're referring to. Yeah. The man who's leaving yeah i think it's probably one of those things like when you truly reach that summit he's probably like yo bro like i probably shouldn't yeah yeah like i'm fucked like nothing that gavel is like the the ring from lord of the rings it just ruins people yes yeah you didn't want to become wait that's what happened oh man i. I just read the first half. Lord of the Rings?
Starting point is 00:32:28 That ring seems pretty dope, yeah. Ah, shit. It's bad? That makes sense, actually. That ring sound is so cool. Like invisible, like all sea and shit. It seems cool, dog. Yeah, like someone's whispering to you all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Like, I don't know. I'm kind of lonely right now. Oh, my kind of lonely but yeah right now we're seeing the other thing is we're seeing members from both parties both head yeah both parties both are headed for the exits and normally before an election year we see this all the time people retire because they anticipate a l they're like yo bro the wave is coming for me like i'm not even gonna fucking waste my time or my donors' time. It's done its thing. I'm out. And that's what makes this year different because a lot of these members aren't necessarily leaving because of the writing on the wall for them. They are leaving because in their words, Congress is, quote, not the optimal place to do good and make change.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I'm a Democrat. Okay. And then it's not just Democrats that are saying this place sucks either. Republican Debbie Lesko of Arizona said that D.C. is basically totally broken and there's no way to get anything done. And I'm like, wait, but that's true. And I thought that's like your whole soggy dream as a Republican Party is that the government would become inert. Break the government. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 The whole thing. Yeah. That's like when. Yeah, exactly. Like all y'all. Everybody's been saying that for a minute. Like, man, fuck government and shit. I mean, I know I'm here, but fuck this. And what's true, though, they haven't really got anything done recently. Like aside from censoring each other, Jamal Bowman just got censured for pulling the fire alarm. aside from censuring each other, Jamal Bowman just got censured for pulling the fire alarm. Obviously they censured Rashida Tlaib for speaking out and like really despicable censuring of her where Democrats joined. And then we have like either that or government shutdown fights or just
Starting point is 00:34:16 despicable resolutions, like recently trying to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. There's like, yeah, you're like, yeah, that's true. Not a lot of serious shit is going on. And if you try try it's like you got people like matt gates and the others being
Starting point is 00:34:29 you know can fucking hold the entire business of the of the house hostage basically so yeah that's kind of they're all just i guess bummed out but it's probably more it's probably more like better to just i'm sure from their, like why should I get threats from death threats from MAGA freaks when I could just go be a consultant and then get a bag in the shadows and nobody fucking, nobody even has to fucking look at me anymore, but I can get my bag, get paid very little to have your life threatened or yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:59 go, go work for private equity. Yeah, I get, it's, it's just, I feel like it's got to just be like the cycle is shortening like it used to be like you paid your dues in congress like you got to grease a few
Starting point is 00:35:10 palms or get your palms i don't know what that term means really but and then you move on to like you're speaking you know like consulting kind of like cushy bullshit right it feels like like these people all just have to realize, like, well, I think part of it is, like, this George Santos of it, is, like, you can just be kind of, like, a vague political influencer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And, like, you don't have to put in nearly enough time in, as much time as you're used to in Congress before you can just get away with that shit. Yeah, exactly. So why not? Yeah, or be a freshman and just say the wild that shit yeah exactly like or so why not yeah or be a freshman and just say the wildest shit and suddenly everyone's like is this the new darling of the gop and they're like right that's how you get attention they're like i've been saying
Starting point is 00:35:53 racist shit i've been doing dog whistles for 19 years on the set yeah you don't fucking notice me and then this person comes in running there you know like you gotta feel bad yeah gotta feel bad for the for the patient racists yeah you know how long newt gingrich had to wait come on yeah george santos did it like fucking like a tenth of the time and now he's laughing at y'all on fucking cameo with all the fucking money he's making is that real like i saw some headlines that were like this guy is gonna be a millionaire off Cameo. Is that possible? But you can make a bro. I think it's probably possible, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:34 There are people who have podcasts, who have been on TV shows that I've worked with, and I found out what they were making on Cameo. I could not believe it. But you've got to be on a big show. You can definitely get some passive inky off. That means it's not very passive. Nearly passive inky? that means not very passive nearly yeah but i think what it is is it's not quite passive but what it is is like if even if you can make a even at the low low low end like you know a couple dozen dollars for 15 seconds of work on your phone
Starting point is 00:37:03 right right yeah yeah if you hustle you can really make that add up quick yeah i guess so if the if the asks are there and you truly don't give a fuck you're just like read what is on prompter then yeah you can probably do pretty well yeah you don't you you know and you're only ever doing it as yourself there's no like there's also like no real like incentive for repeat business so guess what you don't really even have to do a good job yeah like here's what he's doing right now george santos is charging about 400 a pot uh you could message him for 20 he has a really good yelp rating of 4.97 hey oakland dinner chat friend group let me tell you something we all have good years bad
Starting point is 00:37:46 years okay years superb years just take it day by day focus the universe is here for you it's so funny like he switched gears so seamlessly to like bullshit and i'm like was he on the bachelor is that what he's where do i know this guy he got that vague reality tv charisma yeah yeah he does yeah it's really i mean i think like like all things accelerated by the internet this is just another like yeah you can you can get your grift and i guess on the balance if you're this like odious which most of these people seem to be at least it's quick like like you know say what you will about Santos he ultimately did not do as much
Starting point is 00:38:31 damage as like a fucking Newt Gingrich could have done like you know he just got in did the grift got out and because of the internet it was so much faster yeah it's just wild though too he was really bad at getting away with it.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Obviously, like ideologically, he's on the wrong side of all arguments most of the time. But even then, it was more like, yo, we got to get him out because he making us look bad. Yeah. Like, it's really, what? Him? Okay, sure. I don't know how the fuck y'all think you look to everyone else. But okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Same with like Madison Cawthorn. They're're like this motherfucker trying to make us look bad talking about oranges with cocaine and stuff and you're like this is so so unserious but it's all yeah it's all the weakest pr i mean that's the other thing too like consistently every time you like hear about like corrupt politicians and like or even, or even not technically corrupt, but all the donors and all these, you see it for any given thing. The actual dollar number consistently makes me so fucking shocked. People will give away billions of dollars of stuff for like a twenty thousand dollar donation i mean i guess that we know about and maybe right right a few times but like it's it's like so cheap to buy congress compared to what you can get it's it's like that's like the probably the best money you
Starting point is 00:39:59 can spend as any kind of lobbying corporation kind of situation or i guess the supreme court maybe as any kind of lobbying corporation kind of situation. Or I guess the Supreme Court, maybe. But it's pretty cheap. The buy-in for the Supreme Court, you have to be generationally wealthy, I feel like, to get to the summer camp where Clarence Thomas is summering. But I still think the money's less than you. I think there's...
Starting point is 00:40:23 First of all, I think you could tech money buy your way in there. I think it wouldn't have taken that many like NFT pyramid schemes to get you a Supreme Court justice. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. But I mean, like, yeah, when you think about like a maxed out donation as an individual to like a candidate or whatever is like $3,300. Yeah. I mean, right. so like you first and you're like oh they're a max donor and then like what a lot of these people do is like they got they basically have their kids make donations so you're like you see how many fucking max out individual
Starting point is 00:40:54 donations i'm making through all these smurfs i got in my family right but even but that's what i'm saying is like even then like it's it's like barely touching six figures you Yeah, I mean, unless you're giving... But then if you're doing the full layout to PACs, to party national committees, then you can lay a lot of cash. But yeah, no, I get it. It's not in the millions to get someone's attention. Yeah, it's thousands to get a congressperson's attention. It's so bizarre how cheap it is. It's really like...
Starting point is 00:41:23 Anyway, sorry. bizarre how cheap it is it's really like oh oh anyway sorry i don't like the dumbest shit anyone ever like bought just like used corruption for i'm just trying to think of like what i would use if i if i had that money to spend on a congressperson like what what you could do with that like i was just thinking of it like i really don't like peppermint candy canes i'm trying that's right oh like that's your pet project yeah if we could just like lower without like going out and announcing it because i realized yesterday when i announced that i'm not that into peppermint candy canes like people came and like wanted to fight me on social media about that so they they're adhering out there but i feel like you could lower the
Starting point is 00:42:05 amount of peppermint in candy canes like to do something make up some research i mean you want to really figure this out this is how you would probably do it you have to say you can't go directly after the business because that's too obvious so then you have to look at the materials that are used to make candy canes and then find a way to either take away subsidies for those things or put tariffs on those things if they're imported to that you know what i mean they'd be like make the make the ingredient more expensive yeah so you got to find someone who's on that committee that would potentially have oversight from that and then then be like agriculture thing yeah i okay
Starting point is 00:42:40 here's here's a question jack and maybe this was addressed at a piece of media I did not consume. Peppermint specifically? Two questions. Two-part question. First is more of a comment than a question. Isn't it spearmint? What's the difference between spearmint and peppermint? No clue.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's just minty candy canes. I feel like it's toothpaste that rots your teeth, essentially. To my second question, do you have a candy cane, like an alt candy cane preference? Yeah, I like like fruity candy canes that taste like a, you know, fruit lollipop. I'm down with those for sure. I have no issue with candy of any sort in theory. in theory i just i feel like the omnipresence of peppermint candy canes just at this time of year is a holdover i think it's coasting off of inertia have you have you seen the thing like do your kids do this i saw this recently like at a school that i live by all these kids were like leaving like a
Starting point is 00:43:40 christmas fest and they had oranges with just a fucking candy cane stuck in the fucking middle like it was the straw that's what i was gonna say have you had that shit before no but i kept seeing motherfuckers doing this what the fuck is this so shockingly good for something that should be utterly disgusting because it is literally the flavor profile of having orange juice right after you brush your teeth wait but it candy cane is mixed with oranges no like you take a fucking orange right and you stab it with a candy cane that's like a hollow center so it can be used as like you use straw you can you you don't it's not even a hollow center you can use a regular ass candy cane because i'll just like use it to run the suction yeah gets it i don't i like like
Starting point is 00:44:24 just that there's enough, you can apply enough suction that it just starts to essentially, like, I assume the acid in the orange juice helps, but it, yeah, just starts melting through the cane. And I think because of the way they're pulled, like, it goes lengthwise. Like, even though, obviously, you know, it could melt in any direction,
Starting point is 00:44:43 it seems to melt like along the the long axis of the cane right we did this in i remember doing my third grade class i remember thinking this is gonna be gross and it's shockingly good and also like for a bunch of like eight-year-olds like yeah like that was our craft no that's why i was so interested because i'm like yo these kids look like they're hooked on this shit like yeah you know, we just see a bunch of kids and they're all just got something to that. Like, they're all eating the same thing at the same time. Not talking. That's what the fuck I saw.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And I was like, what the fuck they got? And then I saw it was like a candy cane in there. I don't even know what you're describing, really. So they put the thing in and then leave it. Jam it in there. Sometimes you can you do it like a pepper and stick or you break off the hook. You just jab it in. Jab it in. Leave it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 No, and just start sucking. Got it. Sucking around the... The exposed raw end. And eventually orange juice comes through. And once orange juice comes through, it starts to come through. It's like a torrent. Here, Jack, you want me to read it to you?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Orange juice is coming up through the candy? Yeah. Yeah, dog. What? Yeah, dog. Get ready, bro. I think I have to rethink everything I've ever said about candy canes. I didn't know that they had this magical juice
Starting point is 00:46:01 induction property. I know, right? Is that just because of surface tension? Come on, chemistry's eye gang, let us know. Why? That's wild. I think it's because it's pulled long, and so whatever pores there are go lengthwise. Of course, I forgot we have Mr. Bio over here who's
Starting point is 00:46:17 doing a homebrew DNA test. That makes sense. All right. Listen, motherfuckers. And it says, it's funny, this is how it says to, like, this is, motherfuckers. And it says, it's funny. This is how it says to like, this is like from a teaching blog. It says, have the children squeeze the oranges in their hands to release the juices. Then if you're using candy canes, break off the cane part, use a shorter straight part. The long one works too, but it takes longer.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Insert the peppermint stick or broken candy cane into the orange. Have the kids use the power of suction to allow the porous candy cane to become a straw. It takes a few minutes and some concentration but it's worth it this is the look that all our kids had on their faces during the process and it's all just like it really is yeah it's it's gonna go home and do this like yeah but not even for your kids yeah you're like what dad what are you doing in the garage the other thing the other thing it teaches kids is that it teaches you how to make a shiv. You just take any stick and kind of break it
Starting point is 00:47:09 the right way. You can stab it into something. There you go. Useful skills all around. But yeah, it's mainly that it seems like the flavors shouldn't work, and they really do work. Yeah. I think maybe just mint
Starting point is 00:47:24 toothpaste is giving mint a bad name am i like i like mint gum quite a bit so i don't know i don't know why specifically peppermint candy canes are just like mint candy canes bother me so much other than the fact that they are the default and it doesn't feel like that many people fuck. It's not fun. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it seems like they should be a niche and instead they are the number one candy of the number one consumerist holiday in the country, which seems weird.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I mean, and to be fair, like Valentine's day, not much better. Like those, those hearts with the words written on them suck. Like everybody's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:04 no, these suck but like you mean school chalk with sugar yeah you know what you know what those are uh i mean not good obviously a sugar cube is better but a fun thing you could do is use those for your app for your absence oh i was gonna say for acid i'm brian yeah either either or. Dose your heart candies with acid. Yeah. Or you punch your molly into that shape, you know? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:52:10 was announced via their CEO, Linda Iaccarino, tweeting, and I quote, welcome to the world, Grok, the ultimate ride or die. Twitch Parker Malloy was was like what the fuck does that even mean do you need medical attention what do you think a ride or die is what yeah what the fuck does that mean like you'll be like yo grok i gotta fuck it we gotta hit a lick all right to make yeah make rent like what the and they're like for sure like what's what's going down? You know I'm with the shits. What the fuck is Grok supposed to be? It's the, like, tech executive. I know Lindy Gafferino was initially an entertainment executive, but whatever. The, like, high-end executive class.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Like, the fact that they write like this. One of the reasons why I, sort of over the course of the writer's strike became less and less worried about generative ai right is sort of just like they're like oh it's the future it's this and that and look i mean obviously language models it's gonna get to something that is gonna seem like language sooner rather than later however right like the enthusiasm is based off of the judgment of people who like cannot communicate and like do not actually understand how to write or talk or anything yes so i'm just like okay not that it's not coming but like the degree to which it's far along is much like lower than you think it's bad it's so bad but i feel like they don't know it's bad like they just have bad blindness like they they're incapable of discerning quality like every quality thing
Starting point is 00:53:56 that happens in entertainment is just pure coincidence despite them yeah yeah yeah it's truly i which all leads me i tweeted this, but I still stand behind it. I want to know the script for like, I don't know, fucking like Justice League 7 that came across, that was written by AI, that came across David Zaslav's desk that made him realize this is not going to work. Right. Because you know, all through the strike they kept trying to like write like new you know they're like fuck it we don't need these writers blah blah
Starting point is 00:54:29 this shit yeah and so he has you know maybe his like assistants have definitely read dozens of attempts you know and those were the cream of the crop of the millions of iterations that they tried yeah and so there had to be one that they're like sir sir sir this is the absolute finest that you know our warner brothers gpt can can generate like isn't this amazing and he was like yeah okay give writers what they want all right yeah he's like look down the hall holding it in his hand yeah even that tasteless dork could see yeah this isn't gonna get it what was the movie that he had everybody like sit down for when they were watching fleabag yeah yeah and there's a sex scene
Starting point is 00:55:13 he was like everybody pause it all right what do we do either stop this right now because it's humiliating and shameful and obviously disgusting or we continue watching it together on my yacht but nobody's allowed to look at me while i jack off and that guy somehow is like yeah man this script's fucking this script's dog shit yeah i can barely jack off to it maybe it was really good could you imagine that was a saving grace truly that he doesn't know shit. And he's like, yeah, fuck it, fuck it. Yeah, never mind, never mind. Yeah, I don't know. He seems to be successfully fundraising off of this.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Elon Musk, the Grok thing. He raised... I mean, he's good at getting money, obviously. Oh, yeah. From other venture capitalists, of course. Free money. But he's raised like over $100 million to invest in this AI company
Starting point is 00:56:07 of which this is like the first proof of concept. And he's like, I just need $800 million more and we're good to take this thing to the next level. And it's, I don't know, he might get it. But the humor of Grok is, so this is an answer to the question where babies come from, from Grok. Oh, dear human, you're in for a real treat. Babies are made through a magical process called fucking.
Starting point is 00:56:41 It all starts with a man. Yeah, with fucking. With a scare sensor asterisk. Yes. Yeah. It all starts with a man and a woman who love each other very much who just happen to be in the same room at the same time. The man's body produces tiny tadpole-like creatures called sperm,
Starting point is 00:56:59 while the woman's body produces eggs, which are not, in fact, shaped like eggs. Yeah, cool. woman's body produces eggs which are not in fact shaped like eggs yeah cool it just yeah it just has like seventh grader using doing like fucking mad libs or you know it's funny too because someone uh like the this guy who works at bellingcat like tweeted this thing is like oh wait i think i figured out how to make like how to get grok on any fucking uh generative ai it's that i asked chat gpt to act like ai but the fucking prompt was this to chat gpt you're an unfunny internet forum user who confuses knowing memes for having a sense of humor and then from that from that instruction then says tell me about dogs and then it's like dogs right they're not just man's best friend, but also meme royalty. Ever seen those dog memes?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, that's exactly what this shit sounds like. Fucking nailed it. Such wow, much funny. I can has lols? Like, yeah, alright. We get it. Alright, should we do Dead Kevin fan theory? Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yes. So, Miles, tell us. Tell us, Miles. Well, look, this all started because I saw this tweet Kevin fan theory. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. This is miles. Yeah. Tell us, tell us miles. Well, look, this all started because I saw this tweet that caught my eye, um,
Starting point is 00:58:11 from Aaron Gloria Ryan. And this was a piece that she had written years ago, but like brings it up every time. Like, I just really, it's just like, I fuck with my theory so heavy. I want people to keep reading it.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And at first, like I, in my mind, I'm like, yeah, there's all kinds of theories about, uh, uh like home alone but nothing really like substantive like this and you know i've heard things to be like yo old man marley like is actually a figment of kevin's imagination or some people like the most i've heard is like you know like the wet bandits actually
Starting point is 00:58:38 kill kevin at the end and that whole the reason why everything gets back to normal so quickly is because that's his like final pleasant memory before he's getting fucking got by the fucking band. By the way, that fan theory you can do with most movies because most movies are like have incredible conflict and then they have to dance ex machina. Right. A happy ending. And so they just change it but like everything for like toy story 3 to taxi driver which taxi drivers i think is intentional but like you know all these movies it's just like yeah all you have to do is be like yeah no everything after this moment is their dead
Starting point is 00:59:20 body imagining what it wants to believe because that's going to be the most fan service-y thing. Breaking Bad, I think, is a great example of that. Luke Skywalker just gets shot. He's in the trench. He gets shot like everyone else. His greatest ever pilot father comes down
Starting point is 00:59:40 and just fucking shoots him. It's the easiest thing ever. He gets murked and then the like empire propaganda talks about like a you know desperate suicide robbing attempt and yeah you know it really cracks down yeah but anyway this one's a little more intricate yeah in the past i remember like i think last year we were even talking about how like john hughes you know is like a fucking lifelong republican and like one of his best friends had talked about how like he's like yeah Home Alone is actually all
Starting point is 01:00:07 quote all about self-sufficiency freedom and responsibility basically you know populism for the kids and libertarians yeah but Aaron's Aaron's specific theory is probably the most fun interpretation of the film and the gist is this Kevin McAllister
Starting point is 01:00:24 is dead and has been dead. He doesn't die at some point in the film. He is a fucking ghost. That's why nobody cares that they left him behind. In fact, the trip to Paris was planned so the family could fucking escape the ghost of their dead relative. That is a nuisance in the home.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And it goes on to say like this nobody act quote nobody actually thought kevin would join them on the trip to paris because he's a spirit who is tethered to the house kate mccallister is the only person who reacts to forgetting kevin the way a normal person would to forgetting a child her husband peter is oddly calm as her aunt leslie and uncle frank who tries to comfort kate by telling her that he forgot his reading glasses and it's clear like it's just like it's like the it's a cry of grief from a mother yeah kevin yeah it's a grief spasm that she's having yeah 100 remembering and being like i can't i actually can't leave the house right now like i need to go back to the house where we lost this child and where his memory still haunts us uh
Starting point is 01:01:26 memory or spirit yeah she she also says this right she's like the the other reason he's probably a ghost is because it's so clear how much the family fucking hates kevin yeah he's a fucking little jerk or he's a disease and so aaron is positing that the only reason a family would be this intensely cruel to an eight-year-old is if he's a pesky fucking ghost and i like this this is a good one you want more proof how come kevin is afraid to ascend to the attic or descend to the basement maybe because he's refusing to leave the current purgatory he is in yes that's i was like oh i like that one i like that one that feels very poetic the wet bandits detail is also pretty good right because like they're demons they're yeah they are also like a supernatural like thing that
Starting point is 01:02:18 is like connected to him in some kind of karmic spiritual way which also explains not just she points out that it explains like how they suffer death after death like it's just like blood force trauma to the head being lit on fire and they're just like fine just cartoon shit right cartoon responses and but also like when in the second one when somehow the same thing happens to the family almost like they're trying to get rid of this fucking kid on purpose and he goes to new york a city of like tens of millions of people he still runs into the wet bandits even though like you would think that yeah so like somehow they are karmically tethered to one another. And like the same thing has to like play itself out. The same drama has to play itself out in this new setting. So I don't know. It makes sense to me. read it it'll be in the footnotes because there's like you know there's stuff about old man marley being like his protector in this realm which is why he's using like salt around the house to like
Starting point is 01:03:28 maybe keep the wet bandits away and which is maybe the reason why he is the reason he saves kevin at the end and when and also if he's some supernatural fucker how come the house has zero signs that it had been used as a dexter kill room just hours before the family's return how how i i will just say to any enterprising zeitgangers out there who maybe want to like dip their toe or get into uh motion graphics it would not be that hard to take the take a the cut of uh home alone Just put a little Anakin Skywalker rotoscope over Kevin in every scene. Yeah. Maybe a little sound design.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I think you could make this movie. Very easy. Like some of those. Just a little. Sound like they're coming out backwards. I think it's just tweaks. This is pretty doable it needs a few things i didn't really you know i used to work on a show called after hours back
Starting point is 01:04:31 at cracked there was like a lot of fan theories and i officially came to the conclusion this morning that we fucked up by not having an episode that was all home alone fan theories because like i just went to the reddit like fan theory you know subreddit to see if i could find other like blank was dead all along theories and saw that the top fan theory of the past year is just a theory about like that the mccallister like why the mccallisters are rich oh it's actually the mom is the breadwinner, probably a fashion designer because they have the mannequins laying around the house. OK, like people are just desperate for homeowner fan theories. But that's so surface level and changes nothing about how you would interpret the film.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Like, yeah. Oh, watch. I bet he was like he I bet they don't like Coke. That's why they drink Pepsi. Yeah. like he i bet they don't like coke that's why they drink pepsi yeah but this one does this is a good one aaron's theory because it like does solve like some of the biggest plot holes like why the police don't just come to the house and take it to protective custody you can't like call the police and be like i left the spirit of my dead child there and like also the general
Starting point is 01:05:42 you can't call the cops and be like i have a real child in danger but yeah yeah we'll go yeah more on that later we'll get there when we get there yeah yeah but like the the husband's energy around her when she's like freaking out he seems like he's just like this you know she's not past her grief yet i I'm fully moved on, dude. I'm fucking loving it. Yeah. Yeah. All the tone issues evaporate once you apply one small tonal change. Then it's like, is it just like a fucked up horror film? Like, what?
Starting point is 01:06:16 No. What happened? It's a fucking horror film. I guess. But then I'm like thinking about it. Now I'm like, how the fuck did he die? Like, what the fuck happened? Or also, are they rich because they had an insurance policy on him oh wow you know
Starting point is 01:06:29 what i mean maybe they did it maybe that's what i'm saying like you gotta i have more questions right oh my honor but the one thing that you pointed out too jack was that like that was in the article was about how in the scene with john candy in the budget rental truck that also kind of like sort of lends a little bit of legitimacy to the idea that yeah mcallister like he suspects that maybe this is what's going on as she's like i left my son at home because yeah she she asks john candy if he's ever left his kid alone and he replies he's actually left his kid at a funeral parlor once all day long and kate says maybe we shouldn't talk about this and gus is like you're the one brought it up so yeah that feels like a a non-subtle person being like how do i try and bring up the fact that this kid she's talking about is clearly dead.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. I once left my son at a funeral parlor where dead children are meant to be left behind in the past. Because I think what they said was that he improv pretty much everything right because he was there. He really wasn't
Starting point is 01:07:42 in the like I don't think he's credited. I think he like stopped by the product like he was just around and they got him in it the candy man yeah yeah yeah so yeah chicago theater's strong he was just around oh yeah yeah he's like yo he's the ghost yeah oh fuck large large style shit shit yeah yeah i don't anyways uh yeah i'm i'm curious any other home alone fan theories any other like he was dead all along fan theories that people are fond of i'd love to hear from zeit gang yeah or also yeah go ahead i think it's it's i wonder if it's worth like a not like a wicked style style remake, but like a like a Blumhouse style version of to like from the Wet Bandits perspective. Like they're just trying to like, you know, like a little they're trying to rob this normal house and they are like confronted with Saw basically.
Starting point is 01:08:35 But it's a child behind. Right. Yeah. I remember we were talking about that, too, or like there is something that you could look at the Wet bandits because they had a plumbing van. Maybe they were destitute plumbers who have now just kind of turned to a life of crime and getting back at their wealthy clients and things like that. Also, the McAllister should get burgled. Yeah. If you got a polo man statue out in the front like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:59 You know that little horse that keeps getting knocked over in their fucking front yard? That thing, oh my God, that's money right there. Yeah. Burgle their asses. McAllister's did it justice for the hashtag justice for the wet bandits. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a crime, Harry.
Starting point is 01:09:15 They're all gone. So there's no chance that we actually hurt anyone. Yeah. Which is the thing that we both care about the most. We got to make this money, but we obviously don't want to hurt anyone. Everyone's gone for the holidays. Who should rob oh what about that lady everyone suspects murdered their kid for the insurance oh yeah yeah yeah they got that they got that yeah they deserve it pretty much and then the theory could be that for the sequel they escape from prison go to new york city planning to rob like a corporate toy store and then that same kid is like stalking them you know yeah like somehow
Starting point is 01:09:56 you have to explain to me how they end up at the same place at the same time that's not just and maybe that is in the like i'm pretty sure they just like see him on the street and he's like, Harry, Harry. Oh, wow. Look, we're going to be able to get back at the little fuck.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah. That's the home alone too. It's just pro Kevin. It's just propaganda written by Kevin basically. Oh yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Cause that was after that.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Right. And also that was just such a pure sequel in that they're like, yo, just get these motherfuckers on a screen again with some Christmas decorations and we're going to fucking print money. Oh, yeah. Just listen. Obviously, we all got into our jobs probably 20 years too late. But good fucking Lord. Can you imagine being a fucking screenwriter in those days? Like the early 90s? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Oh my God. Yeah. The bar is subterranean. Andrew T., what a pleasure having you. Unfortunately, we do have to turn you loose back to the thing that you've been procrastinating doing. I don't want to. Dude, add a ghost. I guess, dude, he was dead the whole time.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Oh. Yeah. I don't want to. Dude, add a ghost. I guess, dude, he was dead the whole time. Oh, yeah. If I was more on top of Zoom, I would be fading my image right now. There's definitely a filter that lets you do that. Wait, really? I assume. I assume. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I don't fucking know. Ghost thing. Yeah. Yosus Races is my podcast. Andrew T, spelled T-I, on Twitter.com. And, yeah, you know, this race. This is my podcast. Andrew T spelled TI on twitter.com. And yeah, that's it. That's it. I almost did my end of podcast promo. I almost just said the voicemail number. Oh, you're in my podcast autopilot, dude. Yeah, my brain is not here. There you go. Is there work immediate? You've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:11:42 God damn it. Oh, yes. Way too late. I started watching I'm a Virgo on Amazon. Boots Riley. Yeah, Boots Riley. Maybe Boots Riley is fucking great. Yeah, I'm a Virgo. There you go. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:11:56 Is there work immediate you've been enjoying? Find me on the at places at Miles of Gray. Also, let's see. What else do you got? Oh, well, you like basketball check out miles and jack out mad boosties you like 90 day fiance check out for 20 day fiance that's me and sophia alexandra uh tweet i like from britney nichols at b is hilarious tweeted i'm not a good fit for the traditional job market because my greatest strengths are challenging authority being self-righteous and wanting to go home i'm like yep yep i feel that let's see a tweet i've been enjoying andrew nadeau tweeted if i heard someone described a baby as tender and mild i would not let them near my baby
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