The Daily Zeitgeist - Make America North Korea Again, Manafort Sippin Pruno 6.15.18

Episode Date: June 15, 2018

In episode 170, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus (The Bechdel Cast) to discuss Menghazi starring Chris Hardwick, the AT&T / Time Warner Merger, Trumps strange appearance on Fox &...amp; Friends, Manafort going to jail, Scott Pruitt shenanigans, Bloid Watch and More! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 35, Episode 5 of The Daily Zeitgeist. For June 15th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Bye-bye, Der Daily Zeitgeist. Heard me screaming one day Streaming and it made me think Twice and the good home Boy Mr. Miles Of gray said This will be the phrase that won't
Starting point is 00:02:34 Die This will be the phrase that won't Die Oh that is courtesy of Certified Genius On Twitter Don't encourage him I was literally That is courtesy of Certified Genius on Twitter. Don't encourage him, Genius. I was literally just almost definitely going to bring it back today.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And I got that fire, a.k.a. All right, so blow up at Genius's mentions, everybody. That's a feature-length a.k.a. I know. It's so long. Wow. But, you know Had to do it
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm thrilled to be joined As always By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray You took so much energy Out of that And I don't even know How
Starting point is 00:03:18 This is just gonna be your energy The whole show Yeah basically Because I need The scream to do Yeah And now I'm just gonna scream to do, yeah. And now I'm just going to have to do my AKA really flat.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like, everything you greater than me takes you one step closer to the edge. And mine's about to gray. Shut up when I'm talking to you. Shut up. Dude, that song, shout out to Ad Clabibo Caribo on Twitter. Great Twitter handle Sick handle The Hybrid Theory My goodness
Starting point is 00:03:48 When I was angry In 17 Boy Oh I love that song Witnessed a massive fight Outside the Staples Center After we played hockey I was on the hockey team
Starting point is 00:03:58 In high school And there was some Little bit of argy bargy During the game There was some You know Some five minute majors have been handed out. And some people caught us in the parking lot,
Starting point is 00:04:09 and we had to throw down with the other team. And this one dude who – That was playing in the back of your mind while you were – Oh, we had that – yes. Hockey people? Well, they came at me, and then I just pulled my stick back, and I was like, I will hit you with this. And then they were like, no.
Starting point is 00:04:21 But what they did do was chase around this one kid, Randy. Yo, i'm so sorry randy that we didn't have your back yo he ran so hard his shoes came off and then they threw him on the 110 freeway they threw his shoes he said i threw his shit onto the freeway but he was also like one of those kids who like pissed you off a lot so like when you're like man just wait one day some shit's gonna happen and i'm just gonna be like okay there's your comeuppance are more ruthless hockey kids are fucking crazy they're ruthless yeah they're like unhinged in a very particular way yeah yeah it's uh you know and california hockey is a very specific bunch so
Starting point is 00:04:57 it sounds like uh what's the word thing that shouldn't exist right An oxymoron? Yeah. Cali hockey. Cali hockey, dude. I just took my jet ski here to hockey practice. Just a one-tender hockey practice. One-tender hockey practice. Got a two-man mind for a bit of a hook, but all G. Well, you guys know who it is in our third seat. She's the record holder for the most guest appearances.
Starting point is 00:05:26 One of the funniest humans doing anything anywhere. Her name is an anagram for I, Mage Flotus. And if you think that's an accident, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Please welcome Jamie Loftus!
Starting point is 00:05:41 A.K.A. Lil Zamb! Lil Zamb! Hey, did you get. Lil Zamb. Lil Zamb. Lil Zamb. Hey, did you get that tattoo? Yeah, I didn't see it. Oh, you're crazy. Boom! Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You got a Zamboni tattoo? She got the Zamboni tattoo. It's a little bit too big! Hold on, let me see it. It's a little too big! Awesome. A little bigger than I thought it was going to be. It is.
Starting point is 00:06:00 That's kind of lit. And you drew it? You designed it? I drew it. I went to the tattoo parlor on Sunday, and they first printed it. You were like, give me your finest Zamboni. They were like, that's not one of our stock pieces of art. I had to go explain what a Zamboni is.
Starting point is 00:06:17 That's understandable. But they were trying to get me to get such a large Zamboni, like a full back piece of a Zamboni. Because you can see how big it is. They originally were like, it's got to be twice that size. I was like, I'm not good at standing up for myself, but I was like, I can't do that. The Zamboni can't be that
Starting point is 00:06:38 big. And I talked them down to this. It's still It looks great. Talked them down. They are just like, fine, whatever. I'm pretty happy. If you want to look like an idiot with a tiny Zamboni tattoo. I knew you had art skills because I've watched your animated short features, but that is like very detailed and, you know, it's like photorealistic Zamboni.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I didn't know you had that in you. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. Is that well done? I thought you were just doing creepy man faces. Well, no, I just know that you have a very specific style. Yeah. But yeah, that's just a great looking Zamboni.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You're like the Warhol, you know? People say he could actually paint too. He wasn't just the crazy stylist. He wasn't just a screen printer. Right. Handing people the phone to God. Yeah. All right, we're gonna get into
Starting point is 00:07:25 Jamie's over-unders and search history and all that good stuff, but first off, we like to tell people what's coming and what is coming. We have a horrifying new chapter in the Benghazi involving some podcast guy named Chris Harbwick. We have the AT&T Time Warner merger, an
Starting point is 00:07:41 impromptu jazz trump session that happened this morning. I think we'll see jazz trumpet. I almost did. Mr. Miles Davis, Mr. Miles Gray on the jazz trumpet. That is an opportunity to recap the week that was for the
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Starting point is 00:08:25 The internet likes to give them credit for every smart-sounding thing anyone has ever said. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing twice and expecting different results. That is not the definition of insanity, and also he never said that. Also, the World War IV thing. Probably never said that either. We'll look at some shit he did say about Chinese people
Starting point is 00:08:41 and get a World Cup date from Miles, talk about some of our favorite tweets at the very end of the show. But first up, we like to ask our guest, Jamie, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Ooh, last night I really got into the thick of it. Have you guys seen The Staircase? We have talked about it. We've talked about it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I just started watching it. Okay, if it's already been discussed, I guess I don't have much new to say to it other than I'm sick of Netflix buying up documentaries that have existed for 10 years and then being like, this is ours now. I'm like, you cannot do that.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Just because it's been on Dailymotion for years, folks. Yeah, I went into a deep hole with that last night, Googling owls. And then I found- Right, the owl thing is so interesting. It's so, you know, I think that points were made. Points were made. For me, points were made.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Are you Team Owl? I don't know. Team Owl is so wild, and it feels like a little bit conspiracy theory to be on team al but i'm i might be on team al yeah i might be too uh i think also team i don't know is the right team to be on because even the guy who has like interviewed all these people and is making this documentary for the past you know chunk of his career like 30 15 years of his life uh is like i have honestly no idea if he did it or not i feel like the fact that he intentionally is like yeah i'm gonna leave the owl part out something right i also have recently googled uh how many people
Starting point is 00:10:19 can block you on twitter before you're suspended or is there suspended? Or is there a hard and fast rule? There's not. There's not? There's not. Why? What's going on? Well, every once in a while, I like to just send out the call to just have as many people block my dad on Twitter for no reason as possible.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I was like, hey, if anyone wants to just block my dad on Twitter, you can do it. Because for a long time, my dad and I were in this head-to-head battle to see who had more followers on Twitter. Because he had thousands more than me for a very long time. Because he posts hockey scores. And people love that content. Personally, I find it to be a little pandering. Well, it's a utility. Anyone could do it.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh, wow, wow, wow. I don't want to take a side in this battle. I'm also a big fan of your dad's hockey scores, so I don't want to get involved. But keep in mind, anyone could do it. Yeah, okay. That'd be funny though. There is that number and he's like,
Starting point is 00:11:22 Jamie, you ruined me. I think it would be fun it would be a fun Loftus family tradition if we all just occasionally get banned from Twitter for no reason but see you were the first one to do it so in that way he honors you even Mero now is like taking a page
Starting point is 00:11:37 from the Jamie Loftus handbook and getting banned from Twitter yeah exactly it's a pretty hip thing to do but I think it was because he said he was in to DDT somebody. That's why. Whatever. Jamie, what is something that's overrated?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Overrated is, you know, getting a text from Anna Hosnier at 10 p.m. the night before. You know, just overrated, just like being the second choice.
Starting point is 00:12:01 You know? Yeah. You know? Yeah, well, look, let's really, we don't have to get into that. It's a lot of pain? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Well, look, let's really do it. We don't have to get into that. It's a lot of pain. I showed my ass on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I was like, yo, I'm about to be in here. You did a very impressive backflip. Yeah. I literally put the Homer Bush gif of like, my bad. She had to reschedule because she was sick. But, you know, it's life. People have schedules. Jamie, you're always our first choice.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, of course. Thank you. What is something that is underrated? Something that is underrated is interviewing the Migos. The Migos? That's something. I interviewed Migos this past week, and it was a uniquely. So you interviewed Quavo, Offset, Takeoff, and Jamie Loftus.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. The interview no one asked for. The new Frost Nixon. The Frost Nixon of our time is Jamie Loftus ex-Migos. Yep. Wait, why were you interviewing them? You know, the question has been asked. I still fully don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:10 it is i still fully don't know uh i they were doing a promotional event before e3 for ea sports this past week i've written for pace magazine for years and so they were like oh you know jamie you're around do you want to do it and i was like yes and i like m Migos a lot. I did the research and found out all the stuff. I was like, I'm going to go in and I'm just going to like, they're going to love me because I'm going to give them the easiest interview of their lives. I'm not going to ask them about their personal lives. You're not going to ask about why somebody was left off bad bougie? Right. I'm not going to ask about any of their controversy.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I'm not going to ask about because there's controversy. I'm not going to ask about the, because they're funny. If they're anti-gay. Yeah, I'm like, right, because I was going to be like, Migos, happy Pride Month. What's up? But I was like, I'm just going to keep it really simple. Like, whatever, I only have 10 minutes. And so my really only question was like,
Starting point is 00:14:02 what do you do in your spare time? Wow, you're so hard-hitting literally i was giving them the softest softball and i was also sort of doing it for myself too uh and because it's a promotional event i was like oh you're right right your hand you know it's gaming therefore that recreation what do you do for recreation i'm a brilliant journalist i deserve a pulitzer uh ronan farrow yeah kiss my ass i'm a better journalist than you upton sinclair go do one fam yeah uh but so i remember when you posted it i was like holy shit and then i read it and i was i couldn't believe what i was reading like is it it's it read like you scripted the most awkward interview ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And I think you have a clip, right? So we can hear you interact with Migos. Yeah, this is a clip of me trying to interact with Migos. So how deep in the interview are we? How awkward is it? Just set this up really quick. I'm like, my heart is tightening even thinking about it. So to set the scene it's myself migos several migos associates several ea sports people the room tiny okay and very hot i have 10 minutes the interview before me just got
Starting point is 00:15:20 out and the guy was like hey how was it and he was like he was sweating blood have fun and i was like okay went in with 20 questions for a 10 minute interview way over prepared ran out of questions in five minutes uh because they were just kind of like yeah they weren't they were not mean they were not rude to me they just sort of were like not they were just high as fuck they were just not they were just not yeah i mean well they just got off stage and it was very bizarre so here's a the setup for this is i'm just trying to get them to be like tell me something that they do that isn't record music or play ea sports video games and uh i struggled is there any other like nerdy shit you guys do that you don't talk about a lot? Is there like...
Starting point is 00:16:07 Playing games? Well, I mean like generally, but... Sometimes we get to play everything that's a serious. Life is serious out here. Yeah. You know what I mean? We don't play unless it's EA. EA.
Starting point is 00:16:22 EA. EA. Uh-oh. Uh-A. E-A. E-A. There? Uh-huh. Cool. Cool. All we played is E-A. E-A.
Starting point is 00:16:34 E-A. E-A. E-A. Cool. All right, cool. I wanted to wait and make sure that there wasn't another E-A. I thought you were about to have a do a little out of bad bougie moment. It sounded like he said, oh, we're going to play a video game.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And then I thought you'd go, hmm? I thought then he was going to be like, we'll play a video game? Yes. Here's my hot take opinion. I don't think they play a lot of video games. No, I've seen them on tour. I think Quavo, he carries around a suitcase that has NBA Live built into it. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah. That's pretty cool. My favorite part of the interview, personally, and we can all go around and say our favorite part, was when he said, it's serious out here. We don't play. And you said, that's true. That's true. Yeah, that's true out here. We don't play. And you said, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, that's true. I mean, I can relate with being serious out here. And does the little birds in your chain, do those spin as well on the inside? Okay, cool. And finally, Jamie, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Interviewing the Migos would be fun. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I bet they just sounded either super high or they just got off stage. But also, I don't know if I've really seen an interview with Migos where I was like, wow, they really brought it. No. They also don't do a lot of interviews. They're just kind of too cool.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, they don't do a lot. And it was like one of those, I was like, this is a type of anxiety I've never felt. I've been doing like interviewing and like journalism stuff for longer than I've been doing interviewing and journalism stuff for longer than I've been doing anything. And so it's one of those things where you go into an interaction
Starting point is 00:18:09 and you're like, well, even if I suck at everything else, I know how to talk to musicians about boring shit and I can do that. And then just to be like, uh. Well, their persona to me is almost like, unless they're rapping, I don't think they even talk right it's hard for me to just see them
Starting point is 00:18:27 just be like I will I think I'm gonna have the filet mignon medium rare right right right with the scalloped potatoes like
Starting point is 00:18:34 I just can't see they just feel like they only have one mode and that's on stage didn't ask about Cardi's baby I was like I just what are you doing
Starting point is 00:18:41 they're like did you cheat on Cardi yeah excuse me did you cheat on Cardi also excuse me did you cheat on Cardi also why were you left out bad and bougie and you
Starting point is 00:18:47 is your name Quavius okay hey don't do that bad bougie that was a really good one that's my favorite hard right cool cool
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Starting point is 00:19:04 producer Sophie Lichterman. Ana Hosnier is out today. On assignment. On assignment. Sophie is here. She dove into the Medium article. This is all breaking this morning. So this is Chris Hardwick's ex-girlfriend who wrote a Medium article in which she described abuse that she suffered
Starting point is 00:19:27 at his hands, like over a long period of time, right? Correct. And it was abuse of all sorts. And I mean, she opens the article by saying, trigger warning, if abuse, sexual assault, or anorexia makes you uncomfortable you might want to avoid this one and all of that stuff is in there and it's really really like one of the more just he's an evil motherfucker yeah it's like he's evil you had one specific anecdote sophie that kind of stuck with you yeah i mean the whole the whole article is like it's a hard read you can tell that like how affected she was by his
Starting point is 00:20:06 horrible behavior but I mean the thing that stuck out to me most and it's actually one of the things that I don't think is being covered as much I mean they're mostly just covering the like sexual harassment and the abuse and like him giving her like all these weird like rules that of things she can't do and cannot do and um like him messing when they broke up like messing with like where she works and telling people not to hire her but I think that for me the thing that stuck out most was actually at the end of the article she phrased the paragraph I'll leave you with this and she goes and says that you know she lost her period for over a year because of anorexia because of how emotionally
Starting point is 00:20:46 draining the relationship was and then she tells a story about how somehow when she was with him she got pregnant and it was an ectopic pregnancy ectopic what's ectopic ectopic that's when you get pregnant by an old box of high c ecto cooler. I know. I almost said hot topic pregnancy. I almost said hot topic pregnancy. I wasn't going to say, now is that a high risk pregnancy? But I was like I was like, oh, it's not the right segment
Starting point is 00:21:15 to say hot topic pregnancy. What is that? A hot pocket pregnancy? Alright. An ectopic pregnancy is most often Is that a hot pocket pregnancy? All right. An ectopic pregnancy most often occurs in a fallopian tube, which carries eggs from the ovaries to the uterus. So it's a little different and very dangerous. It's not like when the egg attaches to the lining of the uterus.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Right. Because once the fetus grows, it can break through, right? Isn't that kind of the idea? That's why it's deadly? It's one of those things that when it happens, you have to address it immediately. You have to address it immediately and have surgery. And so she tells him, and she's worried
Starting point is 00:21:57 that he's going to be mad at her or whatever, and not worried that this thing could kill her at any time. So she has the surgery, and this is the thing that stuck with me most, that really showed his character. So after the surgery, the doctor came and spoke to Hardwick and Chloe's mother, and she said, the mom said, thank God, after the doctor said the surgery went well, Chris Hardwick goes, that's great.
Starting point is 00:22:22 When do you think I can have sex with her again? Ugh. Yeah. What the fuck? His first question. In front of her mom. In front of her mom. It's like just so inhuman and just weird and awful.
Starting point is 00:22:36 The woman's name is Chloe Dykstra, by the way. She is a model. I think she also does cosplay and is kind of well known for that stuff. It's just a horrible story. You can read it on Medium, but the trigger warning is well earned. So going off
Starting point is 00:22:56 this Hardwick thing, very ironically there was just a stupid article that came out yesterday in The Hollywood Reporter. The headline, it's a comedy actor roundtable. We've got Tony Shalhoub. We've got Ray Romano. We've got Lock the Gates.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's Marc Maron. No, Lock the Gates. We've got Louis Anderson. We've got Tracy Morgan. We've got Sean Hayes. Really all the greats. Just all the funniest like Louis Anderson probably is the only one I I'm interested to see I will Tracy Morgan too just
Starting point is 00:23:31 because he's a wild card I mean they're all fine but that's such a actually yeah I like I like late stage Ray Romano Ray Romano turns out good actor but so are you saying there's some problem with the selection of all the funniest people in no no no no no don't get me wrong i should not be doing this job hollywood the the headline is quote we're all going to behave better unquote the comedy actor round table um you know it's and and the funny thing is it's presented as like these very famous men who were involved in comedy at some point are all going to like respond to this. And they really don't. The interview is not about Me Too at all.
Starting point is 00:24:20 It's framed like it's going to be. But they're just dodging questions. And it opens the first line, quote, the big fear, says Marc Maron, is that overnight your reputation can be dismantled and you wake up to this Twitter shitstorm, which I'm sure Chris Hardwick is feeling right now. But the fact that you would even open an article, like, I'm just so afraid of people finding out how terrible I am yeah right exactly you only have that fear if you have something to fear yeah i mean i don't like it's a i don't
Starting point is 00:24:51 there's like a fraction of a percent of people who are actually gonna who are facing false accusations overnight that end their careers i don't think it's yeah so so that was just wild and then the one question that vaguely addressed me to of like, it's phrased, let me find it. It's phrased very obliquely. It's, oh, who has a Netflix special? Oh, you? Oh, Me Too? Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Oh, and we got the word me, we got the word too. Okay, and we're all going to behave better. Me Too Mama Tambien. The question is, how are your choices you're making different at this stage of your collective careers? Nice dodge, Hollywood Reporter. And they all don't answer the question. Ray Romano's just like, I don't want to do four-camera sitcoms anymore. I was just like, are you fucking kidding me, dog?
Starting point is 00:25:40 So, you know, top six comedians of all time, including, I repeat, Tony Shalhoub. They're all going to behave better. So actually, there's nothing to worry about. I'm so fucking mad. I saw that. I was like, I cannot wait to not read this. But then I read it anyways. The Hollywood Reporter looked at that Arrested Development interview and they were like,
Starting point is 00:25:58 you know what would have made this better if Jessica Walter wasn't involved in there. Or Ollie Shokot. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Eat my ass, Hollywood Reporter. Seriously. better if jessica walter wasn't involved there or then it would be all your show caught yeah yeah yeah it's oh god eat my ass hollywood reporter seriously boom do it hashtag that shit yeah do it hollywood reporter i dare you i fucking dare you all right we're gonna go to a quick break and we'll be right back In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:30:00 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we wanted to talk a little bit about the future of tent so to speak uh there's a tnt time warner merger uh that is happening miles loves mergers uh fox and disney are uh going to merge, or Disney's going to buy most of Fox,
Starting point is 00:30:46 basically everything from Rupert Murdoch that happens in America that isn't the Fox TV channel because Disney is not permitted to own both ABC and Fox. That would be like an antitrust situation. Nah, nah, nah. Oh, Brett's here. Yeah, what's up, doggies? Just got in, was playing a round of G at La Costa.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Had an early tea time, but I'm here, dude, because let me tell you about this little new marriage that is going down in Madea, okay? Now, I'm all about the doo-ops, you know what I mean? The doo-opolies, okay? Monopolies, a little weird, because only one guy's getting the dough. Doo-ops, a little more. Doo-Wop that thing, Lauryn Hill. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:31:29 So, look, the biggest thing for us, you know, like on the agency side, we're drenching our benches right now because we smell the money coming. Gross. And it's going to be sicky, okay? Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. I mean, Lofto. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 What's your talk on this and by talk you know what i mean take my my little talkie yeah what you feel here's my talkies on the feelings uh here are my mergey feels uh mergey feels i love i love a good merge yeah yeah i'm trying to merge with my computer i'm trying to merge with my computer. I'm trying to merge with my fellow man. I went to a little merging meeting the other day, and the guy leading it was like, before anyone has any questions, mergers great. And I was like, yes. Mergers are great.
Starting point is 00:32:18 My king. You know, if you're saying the sentence mergers are great, you better be wearing a suit that's a little too big for you. That is my take on... My king. Everyone, every king who has spoken to me about merger has been wearing a suit that's a little too large.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And it's like, before you say anything, murder's great. Yeah, well, he may be a king, but I'm a fucking emperor because look at my suit shit's tight as fuck it's right you look hurt it's h&m kids it's h&m kids not gonna lie got the tags on because i can return it for my money back yeah well maybe i do jock so i mean look honestly apple you know they're what are they doing? You know what I mean? So the idea is essentially Netflix and Amazon changed the game by controlling both tent and distribution content. Yeah. So, you know, and these media giants are now making the argument
Starting point is 00:33:17 that they need to combine in order to do that, to compete with Netflix and Amazon. Yup. Not gonna happen. Fans are just like, oh my god, X-Men and Marvel are gonna be in the same universe! Yeah, you know what I'm thinking? I'm like, oh my god, come on you fucking nerds, give me your money! And I'm red for that. Yo, I went
Starting point is 00:33:38 to Whole Foods yesterday and Bezos bought my tomatoes. I don't like it. Amazon straight up bought Whole Foods. And now Prime members have their tomatoes hacked. And every pancake has a Bezos face on it. It's a-may-zos. Well, Jeff is Bayes as fuck, as we say in the industry.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Here's a rumor I'd like to start. Jeff Bezos shops at Baby Gap. Only? Only. I can't be part of this. I work with him. I'm tag miles back in. Anyway, so we'll see. I think
Starting point is 00:34:19 this is a terrible thing. Brett might not think it is. The more this shit... Everything is getting consolidated at the Brett might not think it is. I mean, the more this shit. Brett was really awesome. Everything is getting consolidated at the top. Yes, that is true. Then we're going to see the, whatever, you know, late stage capitalism, the movie. It's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Right. These companies will all have. The musical. There was a meme, because I just love late stage capitalism memes. There was one, it was like three buttons where where it said, like, one button was solve global warming. One was, like, solve world hunger. Then the third option was privatize space. And then, like, there's, like, this hand flying in that says, like, the bourgeoisie hitting the privatize space button.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, we're fucked, dude. Yeah, and the thing people are waiting to see, Apple has been sitting this one out up to this point trying to decide what they'll do with their just all the money. Yeah, Tim Cook. There was Tim Cook. Yeah, dude. Put your baby suit on, boy. They apparently signed something with Oprah, which I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It all feels very piecemeal compared to these people who are just smashing worlds together. Well, they've been ordering a lot of interesting productions from people. Yeah, yeah. I don't know when that turns into a thing I can see. Right. Still don't know. We'll find out. So DJT, as I call him, my man, my king, the god.
Starting point is 00:35:40 My man, my king. What, are you going to do? A fucking virginity ceremony? Chastity ceremony. I swear my chastity to DJT. My daddy. He just dropped in on Fox and Friends this morning and was like, hey, it's me. He's like starting to feel like that guy who shows up to the party, like the high school party. Yeah, right. Four years after he graduated. Like, yo, dude i thought you were the trumpster i thought
Starting point is 00:36:10 you were crippled in a segway i thought you had moved on to like better things than going to high school parties like what is happening terrible also dude remember last party i gave you a shot of patrone i'm gonna ask for that back. So he showed up to just kind of cycle through things he had a hot take on. One of the things was they asked him about Kim Jong-un, Kim Jong-un, as I've now heard it has to be pronounced. Kim Jong-un. No, no, no, no. And he, do we have a clip of him saying his thoughts?
Starting point is 00:36:44 All right, here, let's listen to that hey he's the head of a country and i mean he's the strong head don't let anyone think anything different right he speaks and his people sit up at attention i want my people to do the same well just before uh you met with him he uh cleaned house three of his top generals some of the hardliners he's fired then you go over there over there and you took some heat over saluting one of the generals. I think he fired at least, okay? When you say he fired. Three that we know of.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I think maybe fired at least. Fired may be a nice word. As opposed to what, being blown up by an anti-aircraft gun? Which is what he does to people. Yeah, he did that to someone. He's so excited about that. Yo, at least, at least he blew a man apart with an anti-aircraft gun. At least.
Starting point is 00:37:29 He just wants to be a dictator so bad. He's like giddy with excitement about the idea that this guy, not only do people like pay attention, and he later claimed he was joking, which maybe he was joking. He did seem to like be doing his fun times Trump tone there. But then he really seems to get into the fact that these guys can have people killed. It really seems like he's bowed it. That'll be tight when Kim Jong-un comes to the White House.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Just in general, I've heard some people who are not that invested in one side or another say that they feel like it seems like the media is immediately parents type of people but i do think i don't know like it does feel like you know he didn't get into a fistfight with him and that was good and i suspect he admires his power which is like why he was so nice to him but i don't know there's something to be said for keeping your enemies close i guess and i do think that we kind of because we had accepted the fact that, okay, this meeting was going to happen, let's see what happens with this meeting.
Starting point is 00:38:49 We did kind of compress the, well, it's still good that the meeting happened part of it into just now being like- Bar's too low. The bar's too low. Yeah. That's why. It's like, keep your enemies close,
Starting point is 00:39:00 but don't disrespect Canada. Right. Yeah, exactly. Keep your friends close and suck on your enemy's dick. Right. You know, that old adage, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Don't create. According to Brett, that's how I get down. Right. Yeah, I don't, there's a reason why he can't get a win. He's playing 4D chess. Well, the problem is,
Starting point is 00:39:18 objectively, there was nothing different about this. Right. And compared to other times we've met with North Korea and there's been a little fancy piece of paper saying we agree to probably agree in the future. Right. This was even weaker than those. So I don't know where the win comes from.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I guess at the very least you can say, well, it was nudged in the direction of diplomacy versus aggressive behavior. Right. Sure. Then at the very least, yes. Yeah. And just in the sense that they have like a rapport now, that is a thing that appears to have happened. They do have a rapport for whatever that's worth.
Starting point is 00:39:58 At the same time, I really do not like people giving him credit for pulling us back from the brink of nuclear disaster because he was the one who put us on the brink in the first place. So let's just keep that in mind. Well, and also, any of you guys listening out there in the Zeitgang when people want to pull that shit, well, we got closer to this, blah, blah, blah. Find me one quote from a person in the military when they asked about that who says, yeah, he did end the nuclear threat from North Korea.
Starting point is 00:40:21 They all go, what? No. No. No, motherfucker. He still got them shits. Right. Miles, you had just on the subject of the week in the Trump administration, you had a biblical quote that you wanted to share. I mean, so we were talking yesterday about the separations of families and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Right. Right. And how just awful that is and how we are just dehumanizing these immigrants who are coming to this country, who are seeking a better life, like many of the people who came to this country. OK. And we're just trying to throw that shit out in the name of xenophobia and and Magnus. So to really set all this up, there is at the White House press briefing yesterday. It got fucking hot. So while we were recording, there was a White House press briefing. Sarah Sanders had to go face human beings who were just generally asking, yo, what's good with all this terrible shit? So this is first, clearly she kind of came in hot because as we were saying yesterday,
Starting point is 00:41:19 there were rumors about her leaving. Trump even kind of half confirmed that today with his surprise interview. So she was already on edge. She so when people started sweating through her, sweating through her whatever antimatter clothing. So I think it was Jim Acosta. Somebody started pressing her basically about this really inhumane practice. And so this is here are a few of the exchanges. On these children who are being separated from their families as they come across the border,
Starting point is 00:41:45 the attorney general earlier today said that somehow there's a justification for this in the Bible. Where does it say in the Bible that it's moral to take children away from their mothers? I'm not aware of the attorney general's comments or what he would be referencing. I can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. That is actually repeated a number of times throughout the Bible. However, this—hold on, Jim, if you'll let me finish. I haven't seen—that's not what I said, and I know it's hard for you to understand, even short sentences, I guess, but please don't take my words out of
Starting point is 00:42:25 context. But the separation of illegal alien families is the product of the same legal loopholes that Democrats refuse to close. And these laws are the same that have been on the books for over a decade. And the president is simply enforcing them. It's a moral policy to take children away from their parents. It's a moral policy to follow and enforce the law. When they come across the border, they're with their parents and then suddenly they're pulled away from their parents. Why is the government doing this? Because it's the law and that's what the law states.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You guys don't have to do that. You're right. It doesn't have to be the law. And the president has actually called on Democrats in Congress to fix those loopholes. Okay. First of all, she said it's biblical jeff sessions gave a bible verse which has been used by uh proponents of slavery mind you that is a hot take from the bible and i'm just curious what bible they're reading but i think i found it because i just saw a verse uh in this in the sarah huckabee sanders bible uh is matthew, verse 19. And as the tired leper reached out to his merciful hand, Christ pulled back and asked, You MS-13?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Uh-huh. One of my favorites. So, yes, I get that. Yes, there is evidence in the Bible that says we should discriminate people because, you know, I don't know if they're immigrants. The loophole thing is ridiculous. What they're talking about is that there was a law, like a settlement that was made or that became the law that essentially says that kids cannot be in detention facilities. So the loophole there is they're being like, well, if they can't be in the detention facilities with the adults, then we have to separate them. So that's the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:43:56 That's there because they are saying that the kids should be thrown in prison because they're saying Democrats would just let us throw children in prison. That is. And we wouldn't have to separate fucking disingenuous because this is the policy that Jeff Sessions at the head of the DOJ. That's his policy. So as president, he can direct the DOJ to change this. But they're they're trying to act like, oh, I'm going to talk to Democrats. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? You're in control.
Starting point is 00:44:22 You're in the White House. And all this. It's just it's such bullshit. It's so cruel. And I'm sick of it. This is a change in policy from when the Obama administration would, you know, arrest somebody for coming across the border illegally. They would then give them a misdemeanor. You know, they might give them a tracking bracelet or something like that.
Starting point is 00:44:45 them a tracking bracelet or something like that and then they would let them go with their children because they realize that this is like the most horrifying thing you can do to a human being is when their child uh separate them from their parent and so this is an actual change that has been made in policy and to claim that it's the democrats because the democrats won't let them throw children in prison with their parents is fucked. Yeah. So, yeah. Hey, DJT, go do one. My guy, you've got to figure this out. And also, yeah, I mean, Sarah Sanders, my God, you could even hear the press will be like,
Starting point is 00:45:14 that was low, Sarah. No. So this is the media is so stupid, though, because they go, that was a cheap shot, Sarah, which implies that everybody knows he can't understand short sentences, but like don't point that part out, Sarah because she's like, I guess you can't even say like it's just the way they were like, that's a cheap shot, which is not
Starting point is 00:45:34 what you would say if it was like that implies that it's a true thing. Come on, we all know Jim can't understand short sentences, Sarah. Jim, sorry. Sarah, bad. Jim, you good. Jim, sorry. Sarah, bad. Jim, you good. Jim, no listen, Sarah. Because Jim good.
Starting point is 00:45:50 That's five words. It's too long, too long. Yeah, right. Like, yeah, I mean, I guess what they just mean like rhetorically. I know what they meant. But it's just they're so bad at arguing. They're so fed up in that fucking, in that room. Because also April Ryan has to get fucking talked to like she ain't shit every day in there
Starting point is 00:46:05 because she's actually asking questions like a journalist. Yeah. And she's like, you don't know me. You know, just so petty. So you know what, Sarah, for a second I almost felt bad for you. No. And then you come back with that fucking disingenuous, like don't evoke the Bible to justify this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:24 That's how you know she's panicking too. Right. It's like if you're going and pulling random Bible verses to explain why you're doubling down on a horrific policy. Yeah, that's a red flag. That's how you know you're – God, I can't stand it. She makes me so mad. You can hear her sweat.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Let's move on to someone who makes us very, very happy here at the Daily Zeitgeist. You did just hear a sweat drop off of Jamie and into the giant pool of sweat at her feet. But somebody who has just been making us very happy is one Scott Costanza Pruitt. The details just keep coming. Miles, what did we learn now? Oh, this guy sucks and he needs to go. So we just find out, the New York Times reporting that Pruitt contacted the former speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates. So he went to the state's government, okay, in seeking help to get his daughter, McKenna, into UVA law.
Starting point is 00:47:27 McKenna. Oh, McKenna Pruitt. I'm so sorry, girl. But yeah. But essentially, a spokesperson- His wife's name is Marlon, by the way. Marlon Brando or Wayans? Wayans.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Oh, okay. And then it said, Pruitt's spokesperson told the Times that the two were longtime friends and that the letters of recommendation are no more processed for an application to law school. But basically, he wrote the letter and she got in. So all good. They also say in this story, he also, you've been gaslit into thinking that you are capable. Sorry. Man, privilege, huh?
Starting point is 00:48:01 But yes, they are also saying that a lot of the aides were getting him tickets to sporting events like the Rose Bowl and like something, quote, countless other sporting events. So he's like, yeah, give me some tickets to the Rose Bowl. Get my daughter in college. It's just, yeah. Wow. Cartoon corrupt business guy. Honestly, this is a bad example because so many kids are going to aspire to be the head of the EPA. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Because it looks like it's the dopest job ever it is fly first class security guards drive you around to get lotion you can get used mattresses eating snacks all day but he's so inefficient at it because like he would make them drive around all day to find him lotion that they could get at the internet lotion store like right yeah but I don't like the internet right you would think that you know at first the epa gets this big bump from being like the evil force in ghostbusters now the prudential center is really uh really bringing it together yeah shout out to mckenna my girl mckenna what do you think how do you think she feels do you think she's like with her chest out like yeah i should be a uva law or do you think she's going to be there? Knowing that, like, literally, you were just put on blast by the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You're like, honey, you only got in because your dad's a corrupt. I'll just give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she hates her father. I hope so. And it's like, girl, just lie low. In my mind, she's that girl on Twitter who, like, wore the AR-15 to her graduation at Kent State. I know. That's probably
Starting point is 00:49:25 what she is but I don't know so I'm gonna give her the best I hope she is woke and cool and we'll use her and is more like her first day of law school she goes first of all everyone I just want you to know I am mortified uh at the manner in which I got here and I understand that it it I maybe should not be here and I just want to let you know, I'm woke. And would anyone like some lotion? It's from the Ritz-Carlton. You guys can call me Mackenzie. Call me on a fort.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I was just thinking maybe that used mattress was for her dorm. He's like, hey, mattresses are expensive. And you're going to law school I'm not paying that tuition you're going to sleep on a used mattress the worst with money he's a bad shopper that's really his true crime
Starting point is 00:50:16 he's bad at consuming consumption Paul Manafort has been sent to jail the fucking guy who was running our president's campaign he's a loser
Starting point is 00:50:32 he is in jail now because he can't be trusted not to commit crimes surrounding an investigation exactly he was witness tampering he was trying to call people like, yo, let's get our fucking story straight.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm going to jail for a long time. And they found out because he stored all his messages in the cloud. That's how Robert Mull Mull was able to see them. Because he was like, I'm sorry, old man. Do you know about the cloud? Because... Big data
Starting point is 00:51:03 mistake, you dumbass. It sounds like a comedy that will happen soon starring Larry David or something about someone who's like, the cloud, what? How'd that happen? I genuinely do appreciate in the past couple of years how many horrible politicians or people working in politics who have been straight up busted for being old people who cannot use computers. That's like the way so many people, they're just like, I didn't know how
Starting point is 00:51:30 to operate Google Drive and now I have to go to jail. But wait till this new batch, wait till these younger kids start getting to that age and they're like fucking hackers. You know what I mean? That's where it's like... Don't debase my community. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Hacker communities.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I am a hacker but I do think that this is just an illustration of something like our economy and just the world in general has been made like way way less efficient than it should be by people who just we still have a huge part of the world that is run by people
Starting point is 00:52:01 who don't know how to use technology and so like just the crimes are where we're going to see it because it's going to be like in the headlines that like, Oh, they fucking suck at technology. But like, think about all the just behind the scenes ways that they're just gumming up the works by.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Oh yeah. Well, everyone says we're not doing anything to protect ourselves from cyber threats in this country. Yeah. We saw how those hearings went with Mark Zuckerberg got up there and all these old people were like, how do you make money?
Starting point is 00:52:29 How come my grandson can't see my photos? The fact that Mark Zuckerberg was the coolest person in that room speaks volumes because he is the biggest narc. But yeah, again, Manafort, he basically had his bail revoked. So this whole time before he was able to la-di-da around with his ankle bracelet at home, and now the judge is like, I'm sorry, my guy, you're going in to the clink. Hope you have a nice
Starting point is 00:52:52 celly. So yeah, he'll be there until his trial in September. We'll see, man. That's when they say people really, that's when they break. Because if you've been out of jail, or especially in that kind of situation, you're like, I'm not going to roll or whatever. I don't know how long he's going to last.
Starting point is 00:53:07 He's going to do some summer camp cosplay. I mean, where is he going to jail? He's going to rich people jail, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah, he's going to summer camp jail. I hope. I don't care. I just hope Paul Manafort's not going to be fun in jail.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Either way, he's going to be. I don't care what jail. I don't think he's going to go to Martha Stewart fun camp. I hope not. Not right now because this is just him being held until his trial. I don't know how the correctional facilities work up there. Either way, I think when you are fully stripped of your freedom, regardless of the setting, that's when the gears will start going in your mind. Yeah. Although I feel like he will have the Madoff thing in jail where he just takes over the prison
Starting point is 00:53:52 by teaching people how to do scams and stuff. He'll be a celebrity. All right, let's take another quick break, and we'll be right back after that. I'm Carrie Champion, We'll be right back after that. down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here
Starting point is 00:54:27 to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been
Starting point is 00:54:44 so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest.
Starting point is 00:55:13 This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes.
Starting point is 00:55:45 We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
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Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious.
Starting point is 00:57:35 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And we're back. And we want to get to this story. It's sort of a news of the weird. Yeah. It's a strange story. But just when you told it to me this morning, Miles, over coffee. Yeah. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I know. You. I don't know why. I just turned into a. The boys are sipping java this morning. Just chit-chatting about... You nearly dropped your bowl of muesli. So, yes, the story goes that there's this young man in Canada who is a very accomplished clarinet player. And he was going to McGill University.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And he applied to this very, very competitive program, the Colburn Conservatory of Music in L.A. And they only accept this one instructor, Yehuda Gilad, okay, who I don't know who that is, but apparently it's a big deal. This instructor only accepts two new students per year. So it's fucking highly, this is like,
Starting point is 00:58:58 yo, if you're trying to be the goat on clarinet, in which case, I'm sorry, but also, shout out to you, yes you could be playing the oboe which is harder oh wow as a 10 year oboe player good lord
Starting point is 00:59:10 did you hand carve your own reeds I sure did wow I was the only kid at my high school allowed to bring a knife to school
Starting point is 00:59:17 because I carved my own reeds I had a school sanctioned knife oh good for you it was beveled it wasn't dangerous okay so anyway
Starting point is 00:59:23 we digress but yes shoutouts to the oboe players, and I have great love for the oboe players. Anyway, woodwinds, shoutouts to you. You're so afraid of woodwind players. I am. It comes through in everything you say.
Starting point is 00:59:37 When you've been attacked by a bassoon player, you don't fuck up anymore. Bassoon players are intense. They are intense. So anyway, he was applying to this very competitive program he gets a letter back saying i'm sorry you've not made it and he's fucking destroyed he's like how the he's like this is all i wanted this was like how i was going to become a professional musician so he ends up sort of foregoing that delays his education a bit and just sort of has to like kind of work it all out meanwhile his girlfriend's super supportive through this whole thing then two years later that's so sweet he goes
Starting point is 01:00:09 to um uh audition again for this uh conservatory when he shows up for the audition uh gilad asked this young man a perplexing question him he says what are you doing here you rejected me and then that's when the guy said was in his his mind, he's like, wait, what are you talking about? Something went wrong. Turns out that his girlfriend had rejected his acceptance letter. She deleted it from his email and then made up fake accounts to, A, communicate back to the instructor being like, oh, I'm sorry. I can't accept this position. I'm going to be somewhere else. And then also creating an account for the girlfriend to pretend she was the instructor, Gilad, to like interact with her boyfriend and be like, oh, I'm sorry, my guy couldn't make it, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So this man went two years being like his life was in a headspin. So he took her to court. And shout out to the Ontario Superior Court, which awarded him $350,000 Canadian dollars, around $2.60 for out here in the U.S. $2.60. $2.60. No, $260,000 for out here in the U.S. $2.60. $2.60. No, $260,000 U.S. dollars just basically caused by his girlfriend's, quote, reprehensible betrayal of trust and despicable interference in Mr. Abramovitz's career. Okay, in my defense, because I did do this.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Okay, my first relationship was in high school with a saxophone player. Did he dump me for the saxophone? Absolutely. Nothing stings worse. You're like, oh, being left for another person must be the worst feeling in the world. No, it is being left for a woodwind instrument. Yeah, I guess so. Being left in the dust by a woodwind instrument stings.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So this is your like origin story. This is my, I'm with her. I'm with her. I just, it's so, it's so, it's a level of possessiveness or jealousy that it's so hard to imagine to go that far and be like, no, I'm going to just change the rails of your life really quick and just be like, no, it's going this way now. Do you think he's going to stay with her? No, they broke up.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I know. No, yeah. But no, not even after the fact. They had been. I'm sure they broke up. They were broke up a year after that. Everybody breaks up with their high school boyfriend or girlfriend. Like that's.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Hey, I tried to make it work with Jessica. You know, it didn't work out. No, I did too. But like it never worked out. Wait, you dated Jessica too? Yeah. Jessica. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Wait. We should. Wait, you're Jack? Wait, motherfucker. Oh, Jessica. Oh. Wait. We should move on. Wait, you're Jack? Wait, motherfucker. Oh, no. Oh, my. No, shout out to her, though. Shout out to Jessica.
Starting point is 01:02:30 She's doing good. No, but everybody moves on, does fine. It's just like that's a new level of just fucking everything up for something that seems like the biggest deal in the world when you're in high school because you're in high school. I'm excited for this movie to come out. I cannot wait for this movie. It sounds like a good Seth Rogen kind of pick. We're like, especially about the years in between
Starting point is 01:02:53 where he's broken and he's like, oh, fuck. This is the story that I can most see becoming a right-wing, men's rights story where it's like, they're all- Women ruin lives. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah really uh you know woman on woman drama is one thing to be promoted by the media but like woman on woodwind instrument drama that's some real shit that's some real i've god i i hesitate to go back
Starting point is 01:03:18 into like my facebook messages circa 08 and just be like i don't understand why an alto sax is more important than me. But also, shout out to high school boyfriend Andrew because he is a saxophone professor now. Good for him. It straight up worked out. So yeah, you had to get out the way. You know what I mean? You know what? Because what if you were some fucking weird oboe player?
Starting point is 01:03:40 Exactly. You would have robbed... You know what? It all worked out. Was the movie Whiplash triggering for you? It was extremely triggering. I bet. Not just because his drumming technique was so shitty that his hands were bleeding. Come on, my guy. No. And not just because I hate Miles Teller.
Starting point is 01:03:51 You can't get that double time swing on that rise and you at this conservatory. There's so many technical things wrong with that film. Exactly. That movie is like one of those scream at you till you're good movies that I find so frustrating to watch. It's so good, though. That's how it works. Miles Teller sucks, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah. No. No way. Okay. Not my Miles Teller. That's what he calls me. Yes. And you're my Miles Teller.
Starting point is 01:04:14 This is weird. Can I take this wig off? So, World Cup date. World Cup date! Woo! Woo! Woo! Let's go!
Starting point is 01:04:23 World Cup date! Yo! It's Woo! What's up, baby? Red Cup Day! Yo! What? Yo, Nick. Thank you so much. That drop just... I didn't know that was coming, and we all started dancing immediately. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And that's how he plays God in that room, because he just watched all the idiots dance. My blood pressure just rose by like 900%. Wow. Thank you so much, super producer. Anyway. That was the most Euro sounding. That got me going. Something about that echoey synth thing.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I just got my eyebrows arched. So yesterday I was joking about how Putin and Mohammed bin Salman, because Russia played Saudi Arabia, were like dabbing each other and probably joking like, yo, whose player do you think I'm more afraid of them, you or me? It turns out it might be Mohammed bin Salman because yesterday Saudi Arabia lost 5-0 to Russia. And that's fine. You know, people weren't expecting much from either side. It's very embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Right. Country. So cut to today. Right. So cut to today. The head of the Saudi Football Federation, like the governing body for their soccer, was basically like, yo, these players got some fucking splainin' to do. So this man was talking to the local paper in Saudi Arabia and basically saying, quote, we are very disappointed by the defeat. This result is totally unsatisfactory because it does not reflect the true level of our preparedness. Fair enough. unsatisfactory because it does not reflect the true level of our preparedness fair enough then it gets like i started sweating he says several players will face a penalty goalkeeper abdullah all my youth he named names striker muhammad al salawi and defender omar halsawi and basically calling out fucking names i don't know what that penalty looks like i don't want to know i hope it's not something real shit uh but i mean even though it's going to be right i don't i they don't fuck around they do not fuck around i mean yo i mean women only just started driving like
Starting point is 01:06:19 three months ago so i don't i and they like public punishment you know so i don't know i don't know what's going on but anyway that shit went down the uh the chairman of the general sport authority uh he said describe the game as a total fiasco when he put he put a video on twitter uh saying it like that so i mean i think it'll just be like i i hope just for like the human rights aspect of it is like it's a very uh maybe just sick way to motivate the players going into the next game uh but please please don't do anything drastic saudi arabia it's just the world cup we're just trying to have fun we're trying to bring the world together i know that the u.s supports you and literally everything you do uh but come on now
Starting point is 01:06:58 like i would i would hope that because he named names that probably means nothing bad will happen to them because if you're really going to means nothing bad will happen to them. Because if you're really going to do something bad, you wouldn't be like, hey, here's three people to keep an eye on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, the keeper just comes in with like dual arm slings in the next game.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I don't know. I think I'm hoping, I don't want to speculate on what could happen, but let's just hope it's an odd motivational tactic. Yeah. And I'll just do a quick national basketball association update uh on on uh so lakers fans settle down wait what happened because the second that anybody declares that they're gonna sign with a different team lakers fans are like we're gonna get lebr LeBron, Kawhi, and Paul George?
Starting point is 01:07:47 And it's just like, come on, guys. The room just got so tense. I know, because I'm in here with two Lakers fans who just automatically, the second somebody announces they're going to leave their current team, they just assume they're going to the Lakers. First of all, I don't assume that. Which that might happen. Also, I'm a LeBron not liker, not a hater.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You guys don't want LeBron, which also shows how crazy Lakers fans are. Exactly, because we're so arrogant about the franchise itself. You don't want the best player in the league. Nah, not just for a little bit part. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah, not for a bit part. Okay. People put their blood and sweat on the line.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Those jerseys that are hung up, these motherfuckers put in work. Yeah. Okay? And whatever. I don't care because either way, the Lakers are going to be trash. I've accepted that. The highs and lows of being a Lakers fan.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Don't everybody go to the Celtics, please. I was going to say, my favorite team is the Boston Bruins. I would love to see them go to the Celtics and then have you on just for you to just kind of be like, yay, Boston, and then Jack just be seething in snow.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You better watch out. Shorty on Twitter was like, you better stop talking crazy about Boston sports. I forget. Woj is dropping Woj bombs being like, well, the Celtics have the best pieces. So, yeah, everybody's going to end up on the Celtics, including Kevin Durant and Steph Curry.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It's just going to be another Celtics dynasty for the next 12. Sorry, what? Celtics have the best Zambonis in the game. When they get that parquet nice and leveled out from all the skates tearing it up. Bruins and Celtics, same stadium. Zambonis parked in the basement.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Cam Neely for life. Jamie, Miles, it is Friday. You know what that means. It is time for a extremely brief Floyd Watch. Yo, we're going through it fast. Oh, shit. No, we gotta keep that drop sacred.
Starting point is 01:09:38 So, we'll keep it real quick. On the cover of OK Magazine, you got Carrie Underwood and it says, How real love saved Carrie, the untold story of her ultimate betrayal, and how husband Mike healed her broken heart. You go into the fucking thing. It's basically about, you know, she cut her face and had to get 50 stitches.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We're still talking about that? Yes. This was six months ago, okay? And I don't know why we're talking about it. I don't know why people give a shit. And she looks completely the same. I don't know what they are talking about. So then it says, people give a shit. And she looks completely the same. I don't know what they are talking about. So then it says, faced with frightening uncertainty
Starting point is 01:10:08 over how she would heal, sources say. Faced with frightening uncertainty. It was Mike's unwavering love and support that got Carrie through her darkest days. Okay, I'm sorry. Getting a facial scar that no one can barely notice, I understand that that can be trying,
Starting point is 01:10:21 but don't sensationalize this woman's pain to act like this was something very monumental. We got real shit going on. And to cover a story, the thing was like, she cut her face. Her husband was there for her. That's not an inspiring story.
Starting point is 01:10:35 That seems like you have the most lit publicist and they can somehow get you to cover to be like, I hurt myself. And she just fell down? That's how she cut her face? Yeah. Every time I see a story like that on the cover, I'm like, oh, this person's publicist has government
Starting point is 01:10:52 secrets that they are selling. Boring news is a red flag that someone's publicist got secrets. Yeah, but that's cool. So there's that thing. They have Teresa Giudice from Real Housewives of New Jersey. For any of y'all who fuck with Real Housewives of New Jersey, she has a look on her face that only a champion who is manic can have.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Her eyes, she's like, I'm lifting weights now. The blood on her face, that's not her blood. That's someone else's blood. It's a child's blood. Then on Star Magazine, it says, oh they're they're saying kim and kanye about to divorce but we knew that uh but they're they're saying uh they reference like how one of the lyrics on the yay album wouldn't leave was like oh we're about to lose it all blah blah blah uh and then they're saying like he's basically never around as like a father uh because he's
Starting point is 01:11:42 just in his own world um and then she says an insider of course it's always an insider kim thinks kind is just trying to get attention but it's affecting her image in business and that comes first for kim uh-huh her image in her business comes first not her family right or her fucking anything else is her business and her image fuck everything else i mean i for one i'm shocked that kim and kan Kanye's relationship is not exactly like me and my wife's. It seems. I always thought that we were just on the same plane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I mean, you know, I have ideas why that marriage might not be working out, but that's a whole other show. So then there is the Jen and Brad's big news. So remember, we've been talking about this, I think, since the first time this kind of story creeped up. So remember, we've been talking about this, I think, since the first time this kind of story creeped up, Jack. You were like, eventually, it's just going to culminate with Brad and Jen are back together, getting married and having a kid, despite there being no evidence. No truth to it. And InTouch has achieved. We have reached the promised land.
Starting point is 01:12:37 They did it. Wedding and a baby. Brad and Jen. Secret ceremony. After Jen gets the happy news. Okay. It says like reception at George Clooney's Italian villa. Only 14 friends and family members invited. Very detailed. So they're like, oh my God, they got married?
Starting point is 01:12:54 But it's no. You go inside and it's just sort of like she's a relationship girl. And they're like, she's like, you know, you want to have, like, anyway, she's talking about how marriage is cool. And then they say she's about to get her wish because she reunited with Brad after she split from Justin. We've still not seen a picture of them together. We've only hear about sources. And then it just says, yeah, they're planning to wed and start a family. Multiple insiders tell InTouch.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And then they're like, well, luckily for Brad and Jen, they have access to one of the most picturesque locations on the planet. They are aiming for an August ceremony and reception at George Clooney's Villa in Lake Como. And then it's like, there'll be 14 guests and, you know, probably Elton John will perform. Oh, no, Bado from U2. Making up all the details. There's nothing that says definitively, aside from sources, say. A source. So there must be something going on.
Starting point is 01:13:46 There has to be, right? Because you can't just publish this shit. You can. How? How? Because you just claim you have a source. That source is just your friend who you are paying to make up details. And they know that they have not sold as many magazines in the history of their publication as they did when it was
Starting point is 01:14:05 the Brad, Angelina, Jen love triangle. Right. So they're just, the second they got a divorce, they were like, we can go back to this now. And that's what they're doing. And even the cover, if you break down those series of quote unquote facts, they're all like Brad and Jen, names, wedding and a baby two things that exist two nouns right secret ceremony could be satanic we don't know after jen gets the happy news which is that her car didn't get towed you know it's like you can just isolate it and just be like oh and then like
Starting point is 01:14:38 in court you can be like that's what that was referencing when i said jen i'm hoping for a boy yeah that was a line from Along Came Polly. Right. You're projecting onto the headline. Yeah, whatever. All right. Well, I mean, shout outs to you guys. I hope you end up together because I would love to see them back together. Oh, my God. Me too.
Starting point is 01:14:54 That's just me. Oh, my God. Me too. It would save print. Yes, it would save print. And America. Jamie, it has been a goddamn pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you,
Starting point is 01:15:06 and what is a tweet that you love? Ooh, okay. You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help. Listen to the Bechdel cast. Yeah! Dropping on House F4's notes. On what? June 21st.
Starting point is 01:15:19 This very network? First! Yup. It's almost like, I won't leave. It's almost like, I sleep under this desk. It's almost like, I won't leave. It's almost like, I sleep under this desk. It's almost like, I was here before everybody today. Yeah, I'm going to have to figure out how you got in here. Listen, I've hacked the mainframe.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I can appear wherever I want. A tweet I like. This was composed a week ago, so there is some dated info in it, which you'll hear. But it's from an amazing comic named Julia Clare at OhJulia Tweets, and it reads as follows. Colin Jost is dating Scarlett Johansson, Pete Davidson is dating Ariana Grande,
Starting point is 01:15:53 and every female comedian is saying, I wonder if I can get this pile of sweatshirts to commit to me. The realest shit I've read in a long time. Miles, where can people find you, follow you, and what's a tweet that you enjoyed? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Let's see. On Twitter and Instagram, you can find me at milesofgray. Now, in terms of a tweet that I really like, I would actually just refer- I hope you drag this out for like 20 minutes. I would just say... As I locate a
Starting point is 01:16:32 tweet that I feel people would respond to in a way, I think that I would actually just tell everybody to follow the homie Jared Holt from Right Wing Watch on Twitter because
Starting point is 01:16:48 you know my guy is out here keeping tabs on these people on the right wing and all the fuckery and also they really come for him like they control him all the time with that soy boy shit but you know what Jared you out here doing the lord's work so please follow at Jared Holt if you want to kind of have
Starting point is 01:17:04 an insight into the weird right-wing shit without actually having to follow those fucked up toxic accounts. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. A tweet that I've enjoyed at Dan White.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I do not stutter. Oh, I love this account. And then AT Dan White. Just a dude I found on Twitter who is really funny. So he tweeted, and this was a long time ago, but I just like it. Just learned that the, quote, Apple ass challenge is not a real thing. It was a prank created by my shithead nephew, and the video he took of my clenching an apple in my quivering ass
Starting point is 01:17:45 while I walk up a flight of stairs did nothing to raise money or awareness of childhood obesity. That is at damn white. Okay, I followed. Yeah, that's funny as fuck. And that's going to do it for this week. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:18:09 and our footnotes. Footnotes! We're going to take off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we are going to ride out on for the week. Miles, what's that going to be? Man, so I'm just feeling some Latin flavor right now. What's that going to be? Man, so I'm just feeling some Latin flavor right now.
Starting point is 01:18:32 So this is like a little, it's a track technically by Quantic called Cumbia Sobre El Mar featuring Nidia Gongora. And it is, again, if you want to get your toe tapping, you know, make a big toe shoot up in your boot. Maybe put some honey in your hips. Activate your hips a little bit this weekend. You know, start getting ready for the weekend. Get your shoulders dipping. It's all in the hips, baby. Let this song just take you away.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I literally, this is like one of my favorite songs, like when the weather gets warm just to be blasting. So just peep this, Cumbia Sobre El Mar by Conquantic. It means death to Israel, to shout out my favorite joke from yesterday. That joke yesterday, wow. From Ismael Lutfi. Ismael Lutfi. He thought you lived here. Wow. Ismael Lutfi. Ismael Lutfi. He thought you lived here. Awesome. He literally thought you lived here.
Starting point is 01:19:09 He saw you on the call box and he was like, does Jamie live here? I was like, yeah. Is that a joke? Kind of. Where's her room? The conference room. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back on Monday.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Have a good weekend, everyone. Bye. ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത്ത� Thank you. ¡Suscríbete al canal! ¡Vamos! Música Las parejas de cuella, por el perno llevaban La roncel de colores, para entrar a la fundianda La roncel de colores, para entrar a la cumbia Y de pronto surgió una reina esperada Era Marta la reina que en mi mente soñaba Era Marta la reina que en mi mente soñaba, era Marta la reina Que en mi mente soñaba, a su pepe y la luna
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