The Daily Zeitgeist - Make Middle Earth Great Again 9/9: King Charles III, Emmys, Polio, Dr. Oz, Jeff German, NY Fashion Week

Episode Date: September 9, 2022

In this edition of Make Middle Earth Great Again, Jack and super producer Becca discuss King Charles III, the Emmy Awards, NYC's polio outbreak, Dr. Oz being a POS, police arresting a Clark County official in Jeff German's assassination. and New York Fashion Week!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Make Middle Earth Great Again. That is courtesy of Ensign Jensen in reference to all the fun Lord of the Rings discourse that is happening. They made a new Lord of the Rings show, and there are non-white people in speaking roles who aren't under five pounds of monster makeup. And people are pissed. Incredible. I know. It's infuriating, isn't it? I mean, what the heck do they think they're doing?

It's so funny because it's like, maybe I hate fantasy because there just isn't brown people in fantasy. I'm not a big fan of the sci-fi fantasy genre. But you know, maybe it's because I simply cannot relate. It feels so white well it does feel like when you put people of color into the fantasy genre like the big fans of fantasy a lot of the fans of fantasy are telling on themselves by being like this isn't my fantasy

this isn't what i'm this isn't what i'm here for it's oh, so fantasy to you just means a world of only white people. Got it. Whereas sci-fi, I feel like there's... It seems inexplicable. I mean, Star Trek, I think, made room in sci-fi for POC from the job.

Yeah, I feel like sci-fi can be pretty progressive. It should be more progressive than, like, normal fiction. Because, like... Does Star Wars fall into fantasy or sci-fi, though? Sci-fi, right? That's a great question. Yeah, sci-fi.

Because they're super racist. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Okay, I'm being told by Super Producer Brian that it is not sci-fi it is fantasy presumably because I feel like an episode of that Sunday show would differ oh man this might be

a long this might be a long debate that we've just kicked off here and you know what I can't think of a group I would rather debate with than Star Wars fans I mean they would be a lot of fun to have this conversation with.

Anyways, no, I truly couldn't care less about whether Star Wars is fantasy or sci-fi. But I'm Jack, and I am thrilled to be joined by super producer Becca Ramos! Hello, hello. What's up? Nothing much. It's Fri-yay.

It is Fri It is Friday. Thank God. And LA is supposed to, Southern California is supposed to be bombarded by heat waves and torrential downpours over the weekend, as well as fires. So that's what we got going on out here and uh back where you are it's polio yeah polio but it is 75 degrees outside which is nice that is nice yeah those days are behind us i think those are uh remember in the early aughts when it got into this down into the 70s that was fun i feel like is like that's how we're going to talk about it.

But anyways, I do want to give a shout-out to Ruben Vargas, who has a birthday here, 99B Day, coming to us from the 909. So we don't usually do that, and nobody should ask me to do that again. But I'm just going to give that shout-out as requested. I'm feeling generous. It's Friday. All right. So Becca, let's tell the people what's really on our mind. And that is

Charles III. My king, Charles III. No more inspiring vision of leadership than somebody who um you know it i i've only known him to be like a weird kind of quiet guy with big ears and then like as i've grown older soulless eyes yeah like soulless eyes but then you like hear what he's like actually and it it is just story after story that is like a cautionary tale about being spoiled and pampered like to a degree that is almost like truman show-esque and it's it's really wild this really draws into stark contrasts like how absurd it is that we still have the monarchy absolutely i mean i look at him and i'm like man you had to wait till you're 73 to become king too long for me i want to be retired i don't want to work don't ask me to put a position at 73 no but he don't worry he doesn't have to there's there's no work to be

done other than people being like his handlers being like sit here and say these uh five sentences please sir um but he probably could have staved off like how bad this looks just him being the monarch because he's just all he is known as is being like a spoiled rat and evil um like he could have if he had just been like no i'm gonna like pass it on to my son because he at least i don't know like some people think he is like charming in some ways um as opposed to me who they they've had to hide for decades and decades. But he didn't even have the good sense to do that shit. He gave a speech today. Don't ask me what he said.

I did not tune into it because I don't need to hear a colonizer's voice today. But, you know? I can't, like... So neither of us have seen it. Could you... Like, I've never been more confident that someone gave a speech that I couldn't have given less of a shit about.

Like I don't I don't even I haven't even looked at like what the news fallout. But like I'm so confident in not tuning into that shit. I truly wish the news cycle would like move forward. I am like, OK, she passed. I'm giving the wrap it up symbol every time I refresh my news. Let's get this shit moving. We knew it was going to happen. You know, it's like, to me, I'm like, I'm so confused why the news is so, like, enthralled at the level of, like, the Harry-Meghan wedding level of this death.

Because I'm like, we knew it was happening. Like, she's 96. She is. They had things prepared like i don't get why it's such a spectacle when for decades they've been really preparing for this like have you looked at the london front pages no it's wild it's are they like it is truly now it's like the a young president has just been assassinated. It's like the only thing I can think of. So Daily Mail, our hearts are broken, is the headline.

I'm not pulling a quote. The headline is, our hearts are broken. Daily Express, our beloved queen is dead, is the headline. You did your duty, ma'am, is another headline um you did your duty ma'am is another headline but they're not even written in the format of a headline it's like they're written through like sobs um grief is the price we pay for love is the headline of the daily telegraph um the mirror just wrote thank you next to a picture of her um i saw another one that was like, we love you, ma'am. Just like weird, weird shit.

It's been very telling what side of liberalism people are with the queen dying. Because I feel like on Facebook, you're seeing a lot of people being like, God rest her soul. She did her best there's like i saw someone share like a image that was like her holding paddington's hand being like take me to my husband and while he is in a refrigerator over here somewhere please take me to him did you know that that the her husband has been on ice since he died because they can't bury him without her so he has been on that's awesome power shit it is on some awesome power shit no yeah it's it's wild to me i guess the succession line is interesting because it allows you to imagine the intrigue like was

william like are you kidding me dad nobody likes you what are you doing but i'm sure he like was that much more excited because he's like honestly like my grandmother had my dad at such a young age like we did the math yesterday where like she had her in like early 20s i think 23 so he's gotta go soon like he's already 70 soon like he's already 70 something like he's he's not gonna be around forever and then he will at a much younger age be able to take the throne i'm sure he's stoked i at the same time i feel like he's one of those like both of his parents lived to an absurdly old age he has like that stubborn like old man energy of like somebody who is just going to have an ambulance on standby following his ass around like just just like steadily fucking everything

up and staying alive like so long i this is very bad like i some level, the monarchists and the conservative people in England, I understand their frustration because this is a bad look for the monarchy because this dude is without charisma. The institution's evil. I don't think he's got enough, like, going on upstairs to technically be evil. Maybe I'm underestimating him. But just a true, true dipshit.

Super Bruiser Brian's correct. He is fuck ugly. Is correct. I mean, Camila played the long game. She said, Mistress till I die, no thank you. I'm now the Queen of England. Yeah.

Super Bruiser Brian also said in the speech he listed all the places in the UK he's going to visit. And then he Dean screamed. Anyways. Yeah. He's not going to he's not going to be good looking on the pound note or whatever like money they put him on.

So like they finally have a king for the first time in decades and decades and it's this almost a century yeah and it's it's wild man um so who who's next it's william is next yeah william would be next so we uh offline um me and super producer anna went through the hierarchy because i was like i have no idea how this shit works. It does go Prince Charles, I mean King Charles now. I'm sorry. Excuse you.

I'm so sorry. Then it goes Prince William and then it goes through all of Prince William's kids before it would even ever hit Harry. I get why Harry was like, fuck out of here i don't give a shit this is not for me because there was never a universe that he was gonna ever become king like it's like he'd have to outlive all three of his brother's children so right not worth it i

get it and is it king it's both his boy children and girl children yes all of them yeah but the boys come first before the girls yeah i don't even think it's like age related i think it's like the boys and then i think this the one thing that this has like increased my interest in when it comes to the royal family is the crown um because like they tell the truth about these people like prince philip was an intriguing character because he was just like such a such a dork who like thought he was like really cool and like such a very specific um brand of like white guy in the mid-20th century who just never doubted his own mastery of the universe for no reason whatsoever. Prince Charles is a total baby.

He's like, Mom, I want to date who I want to date. You kind of feel sorry for him, but he's also a monster to Diana. And so I'm like interested to see the truth about like, whatever the next segment of, of the story is. But they put that shit on hold because they're like, we can't possibly at a moment like this.

Out of respect for the queen, we must not record any more episodes of The Crown. Right. And just like, I don't know. We just lived through a pandemic that killed millions of people and they made fun of us for wearing masks. They literally made every medical genre cover it.

We weren't living through the trauma as it is. We got to watch it on Grey's Anatomy and Firehouse 19 and like whichever midday drama that your mom's watching. It came my mom's watching at home. I'm sorry if I'm not like so heartbroken that a 96 year old woman has passed away. And like, yeah, old woman has passed away um and like yeah maybe if if people showed a little bit more respect for the all of the people who are like 96 who died from covid uh and actually gave a shit about that i don't know maybe we we'd be a little bit less flippant but seriously get the fuck out of here

with this shit i'm i'm so tired of it already it's crazy to me harry there's also all these pictures the the succession thing is interesting because they like there's all these pictures of like will looking pleased while harry's behind him scowling it's clearly like oh he just like had some sun in his eyes pictures from like five years ago but they all imply like harry's already plotting on like killing his brother to like get the shit truly i'm like harry's living his best life he left he said adios i'm gonna take my two beautiful children that got way better genes because um hello their mother is absolutely gorgeous yeah and diversity is good yeah when

you sprinkle in a little less like uh inbreeding you get beautiful children so harry said bye-bye and i just like laugh at the photos that they're like i love the meme that comes back every time the royal family comes into popular conversation of like diana snatching her jeans back from william of like beautiful pictures of him as a youngster. And then like now he's like ugly and balding. Right. It's so much fun for me. Yeah. You really.

Yeah. He really looks more and more like his dad every, every day. Sadly. Like a thinner curse or something like a anyways. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.

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What are we going to say? What are we going to say? We really don't have anything. A little transparency behind the pod. Yeah, a little transparency. We're just like, you know, they're happening.

Kenan Thompson's hosting. He's very funny. Hopefully, it'll be a funny show for people who watch things like that. I will not be watching. I don't think I've ever watched an Emmy Award.

I don't think so either. That is a brag, actually. I was going to say not to brag, but that is a brag. I'm proud. I'm going to see some red carpet looks, though. I do love a recap red carpet look. Yes. I am 0 for 74. I plan to continue to be 0 for 74. And I plan to continue to be over 74. Polio is trending. Well, we have climate disasters piling up on the West Coast. New York City has like they're thinking about declaring an emergency if they haven't already because polio is being found in the wastewater. Yeah, absolutely.

There are live active cases of polio please if you live in new york city call your mom and check that you were vaccinated for polio i did that you guys were just doing that like as we were prepping this show i because i am chronically afraid uh caught this and like wind of this like a couple weeks ago it was like starting to bubble but now officially as of like today are they declaring it like a couple weeks ago it was like starting to bubble but now officially as of like today are they declaring it like a state of emergency in new york with the polio but when they found it the first case like a few weeks ago i like called my mom and was like yeah i'm vaccinated for this right and she's like yes if you needed a vaccine you got it but super producer

tricia uh brought up because i was like well my mom told me it was just like a part of the vaccines and she was telling us that oh it was one of those vaccines at that time if you were probably going to school in like the late 90s that your parents could opt out of the polio vaccine you didn't need it to go to school you needed other ones but not polio so i guess do call your mom and make sure you do call your mom, do check, do make sure that she wasn't on some anti-vax or shit or just was like.

I mean, there's a couple vaccines I missed because, you know, there was some weird marketing with Gardasil when I was growing up,

so I didn't get that one. But, so make sure you get, all your vaccines are checked off. Yeah, maybe do that. Dr. Oz

continues to be a real piece of shit, is escalating attacks. So John Fetterman recently had a stroke and has asked not to do a debate because he said he's still having language processing issues from the stroke he had. And Dr. Oz gave a speech with the um guy that he's running to replace and was like he's either scared and lying and a baby or he's too

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those in quote all right so there's this wild story about a investigative journalist who was murdered uh over labor day weekend and people were you know trying to figure out what the fuck was going on he was also a podcast host uh who hosted a show i think called mobbed up maybe and you know a lot of the stuff that he covered was decades old so people were like it couldn't have been like retaliation for yeah for for that but that that's the thing about killing an investigative journalist is their friends are all investigative journalists. And so they noticed that he I think they were aware that he had this person who would send like really vitriolic, like hateful comments to him on Twitter, who was a 42 year old Democrat

who serves as Clark County's public administrator. And they used that as a lead to just Google what that guy's house looked like and saw that the car outside his house was the same car that was closed by when the investigative journalist was stabbed to death and so they like basically kind of put a couple things together the guy who innocent until proven guilty but you know probably it's not looking good for this dude this uh uh county administrator or whatever elected official who was mad at an investigative journalist for like revealing things about him and probably it looks like he probably killed him but got busted via

like some straight up internet sleuthing a lot of times internet sleuthing i'm very suspicious of it but it looks like it worked in this case that's i mean it's absolutely devastating like this is a much like a small scale of like a large problem we have internationally of like you know investigative journalists putting their lives down for the truth you know like i think journalism is such a when properly done such a noble career like the whole point of it is to you know like not gatekeep like facts and reality and like give people education that they deserve to know about like what's going on in their towns and their cities and their countries and it's just so sad and scary to see you know another person who literally was out there trying to seek the truth be you know hurt

and killed for those actions like this happens all over the world all the time and you know it's it's just uh it's it's scary it gets scary every day i don't know hopefully this is not a like new trend but yeah this is the sort of thing that you don't think happens in America. And, but it does seem like it's more and more of a danger with the sort of uptick

in fascism that we're seeing in this country and around the world. I think they're saying that Sweden's right wing is like on the,

the far right is on the cusp of power. Italy's right is set for a landslide victory. Bad times globally. Scary times. Scary times. Well, I'll tell you where it's not scary. New York.

Actually, it is pretty scary. New York Fashion Week is happening. Probably not. It's day one of New York Fashion Week. I was telling Jack off the mic that I don't quite know what that means outside of the context of like popular culture television highlighting New York Fashion Week. But I have noticed a trend on TikTok and other platforms of genuine people who are in fashion, that own small businesses, that are small designers trying to make it, who do invest.

Fashion Week is a big networking event for them that don't get to go or are having trouble getting in because big brands are letting influencers in and influencers who potentially aren't even like fashion influencers or just like you know whatever their niche is uh so I do think it's kind of an interesting turn on like this bigger influencer conversation that I feel like so much of the internet and like popular culture was like influencers don't matter like they're still like weirdos and losers and it's like popular culture was like, influencers don't matter. Like they're still like weirdos and losers. And it's like, no, they're like truly like bigger than celebrities at this

point. Like way, way, way more important than a lot of celebrities showing up at fashion week. It's like, you know, the celebrities are going to show up at fashion week, but like some of these influencers are like a really big deal. And that's kind of crazy to me. I feel like it's the first time I've really seen influencers be such the face of something that they're normally not like i know more influencers showing up than models that i know showing up so i don't know but it's day one come on we count on you to be gatekeepy snobs new york fashion industry like what are you doing letting charlie what's her what's her name's uh dad yeah be her is that the one whose dad oh no no no the that's addison ray's dad addison ray's dad but the

d'amelio's are opening their own like family brand of stuff and doing their own tv show soon like they're trying to be the next kardashian family i think yeah exciting they saw the steps they saw the vision and they saw the vision, and they said, that's the blueprint, and I'm doing it. Addison Rae's dad is walking the run walk. Or is walking the runway. The catwalk. The runway.

And he looks fierce. I have seen some influencers. He looks like the Incredible Hulk. He does look like the Incredible Hulk. I have seen some influencers who will design people who their TikTok niche is thrifting clothes and upcycling them. That's cool. And I have seen some really cool, those influencers that I'm like, they should go to Fashion Week. Because they really do design all their own outfits to show up.

But then I've also seen some that treat it as a costume contest where I feel like they're like, yeah, so I rented this outfit for fashion week and I'm like so you have no taste like that's like the whole thing it's like you don't have if you have to rent an outfit for fashion week do you I guess it is similar to like a runway where like celebrities do like rent dresses and things but I don't know I just kind of found that funny where I was like you're like wearing this crazy outlandish outfit that you would like never wear because like you're like I must show uplandish outfit that you would like never wear because like you're like i must show up at fashion week that's what's frustrating about like the whole the idea of influencers is like some people are like oh that's an influencer and it's like no that's an artist who's found like an outlet on social media to for people to discover their art and then some people

are just straight up influencers. It's just Instagram evolved. Yeah. It's reality TV evolved. Yeah, it's like reality TV and then you go to Instagram and then it's now on TikTok. It's all the same type of person just doing different types of content.

It's like those influencers that we used to make fun of a decade ago on instagram for being like instagram baddies are now on tiktok doing like gentrified day in the life in new york where they like have their daddy paid for their rent in soho and right like don't actually work and they're like can i do so much in my day i go to brunch at butch's daughter and like you know i'm in dime square what the fuck is dime square you know and you're like this isn isn't anybody who's in New York who's actually contributing to the community in New York. Doesn't do any of this stuff.

Yeah. I love the Chicago. My weekend in Chicago as a 28 year old video. Oh, yeah. My favorite. Take them to that shit. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending heading into this weekend.

We are back on Monday with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all on Monday. Have a good weekend. Stay safe.

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