The Daily Zeitgeist - Make Netflix Free?, Dr. Oz NOT Smart? 4.23.20

Episode Date: April 23, 2020

In episode 615, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian Guy Montgomery from New Zealand to discuss all the misinformation being spread about coronavirus, the 'miracle' drug Hydroxychloroquine, seniors getting grumpy with Trump, Netflix subscriptions going up due to the pandemic, and more!FOOTNOTES: Chinese Agents Spread Messages That Sowed Virus Panic in U.S., Officials Say U.S. Adversaries Are Accelerating, Coordinating Coronavirus Disinformation, Report Says Why Bill Gates is the focus of the latest coronavirus conspiracy theories Trump and Fox News Are Suddenly Silent on Their “Miracle” Drug Hydroxychloroquine On Fox & Friends, Dr. Oz suggests that hydroxychloroquine isn't more widely embraced because people hate Trump: "If it had never been brought up at a White House briefing, this medication, would people still feel the same way about it?" Dr. Oz, on Fox & Friends, says the VA study on hydroxychloroquine shows that "we don't know" if it works and "we are better off waiting for the randomized trials Dr. Fauci has been asking for." 'It's Fine If You Die' Miiiight Not Be Best Trump Campaign Slogan Netflix Adds 15 Million Subscribers Amid Coronavirus, ‘Tiger King’ Boom; Warns of Downturn in Future Free Netflix: Petition asks streamers to stop charging due to coronavirus WATCH: Elkin & Nelson - Jibaro Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 130 episode 4 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news okay uh it's thursday april 23rd 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka we ain't go in nowhere we ain't going nowhere we can't go out now because it's quar boys for life courtesy of nicole p and stuck the landing i would have thought that lockdown for life would have been a tidier use of syllables you know i like sometimes guy, sometimes guy. I like when it's actually bad. When the word play is not great. I have a soft spot for that. Shout out to Ant Triffy for knowing my AKA voice so well.

And we are thrilled to be joined. I'm thrilled to be joined. I think we all are. By my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Want some Taco Bell in me, but I'm inside. I want some tuna

from Subway, but I'm inside. I guess I'll smoke my weed all day. You know why. Eh, eh, cause I'm stuck inside. Cause I'm inside. Cause I'm stuck inside Cause I'm inside Cause I'm stuck inside Thank you to Moon

And Moon's dark side For that Afro man because I got high You know shout out to Palmdale and Afro man Yeah yeah How are you Miles I'm gravy I'm groovy, baby.

You know what I mean? Groovy? Sorry? Oh, yeah, wavy. You're gravy and groovy and wavy. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our choir host.

Oh, there it is. The talented, the wonderful, the hilarious Lil Xam herself, Jamie Lofton! Quarantine with Miles Gray and Jack O'Bee Giving up our social lives Toking, yeah, a couple times But it's just not nice to say Mensa dweebs are stalking me Hoping we can't go outside

Jamie's on Zyke guy Wow. Oh my God. The Loftus AKA game is so good, man. Dropped a fucking bomb. Wow. Really trying to readjust my jaw to be able to sing in that way. Yeah.

You got to give yourself a bit of an underbite for that reason. Yeah. You really got to make big, oh, side by side, guys. What is that? Where does that come from? Is it Canadian? What is it? I don't know.

It's the affect. I don't know. Where are they from? The Illers? Where is that band from? The Killers? They're from Vegas. Yeah, they're from Nevada. Upstate New York? They're from Nevada. Oh, wow. Nevada.

Yeah, okay. Nevada. I thought that Brandon Flowers was a really handsome guy. And then I found out he was Mormon. And I didn't know a lot about Mormonism and it really threw me off. Is he Mormon? Wow. That's surprising.

He is very handsome. I did not see that coming. What a shock. How could it be? How could he be? I trusted him to not be a part of LDS. We are totally open to all religious persuasions here on the Daily Zeitgeist.

All Mormon models welcome. And we are thrilled to be joined all the way from where the sun hasn't risen quite yet. He is the hilarious, the talented Mr. Guy Montgomery. Hello, my name is Guy Montgomery. I didn't actually have any submissions ready, and I also didn't prepare a song, but you wouldn't have known it from that little teaser I gave you.

Hey, everyone. It's so good to be here. The sun is rising. It's 6.50 a.m. in New Zealand. And I'm absolutely itching to discuss current events with my three nearest and dearest. Oh, man. Welcome back. It's great to see you.

Thank you. Thanks for having me. Welcome back. Have you been quarantined since we last spoke? Oh, you better believe it. Yeah. What I really like is my house. And that's a huge relief to me because I've been spending a lot of time in there,

familiarizing myself with the rooms. I've been playing a lot of hide and seek. Not a lot of hiding places. Right. No. Yeah. You're quarantined with a child i believe i remember yeah yeah the rumors are true it's it's me and a child no one else not my kid what what what age i i'm asking for a specific reason because i have my kids are three and two

and they suck at uh hide and seek they're they suck at hide-and-seek. They're very bad at hide-and-seek, and I'm wondering if they're going to get better any time soon. I do not take inspiration from my hide-and-seek playing partner, who is four and a half, and she enjoys the looking, I think, to an extent. If you hide too well, she will lose interest, and then her idea of hiding is running away, and then looking back when you finish counting to 10

to see that you're still invested in the game i think because she has such flimsy commitment she lives in constant fear that whoever she's playing with will also flake out yeah like her her searching technique is mostly marching around the house yelling out my name. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. My kids always go and sit on a couch or a chair just in the middle of the room and then laugh hilariously when I walk in the room.

So I'd be able to find them if I was blindfolded. But yeah, they're very bad at hiding. I worry about it if they're ever in a taken scenario. I have that thought often. All right. Well, Guy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to talk about a couple of the things in the news that we're going to be getting to a little bit later on.

We're going to talk about coronavirus disinformation. Have you guys seen this stuff? You heard about this? No. I mean, this seems to be kind of the general trend things going where we see a bunch of misinformation out there, and then it turns out that it's being spread by China or Russia or Iran or the Trump administration. All of them working at the same goal of destroying the country.

So we'll talk about that. We're going to talk about that wonder drug, the malaria wonder drug that it turns out not so good. Hydroxy, what is it? Hydroxy cut. Wait a minute. No one was talking about it. Yeah, hydroxy cut for rapid weight loss. Okay, that's what I was talking about.

Hydroxy chloroquine. I don't remember anyone talking that up ever, ever. So let's just get off of that. Yeah. Singers are starting to get grumpy with Trumpy. An adorable headline written by an adorable man, Miles Gray. Shake Shack is returning their $10 million to the PPP fund,

but Harvard's not. Harvard says you can go fuck yourself if you want some of their money. We're going to talk about Netflix thriving and whether they should be free. We're going to talk about Disney thriving and whether they should be free. We're going to talk about Disney. All of that, plenty more. But first, Guy, we like to ask our guests,

what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I don't know if it's necessarily revealing about who I am so much as where I currently am, but I was looking up a mole digging in a hole recently, both as a lyric search and a video. I was trying to recount as much of U2's elevation as I could, and that was the sort of line I gravitated towards. Do you guys remember that? Does that stick out to you?

I mean, I remember the song, but if that's a line from mole digging in a hole yeah you absolutely nailed the the cadence yeah oh i mean i figured i'm like that sounds like it would be an elevation but i don't remember that line specifically well he talks about moles twice actually so at one point he says i've lost all self-control, been living like a mole, now going down, excavation, and then all of a sudden he's in the sky. And then in the next verse, two verses later, he says, a mole digging in a hole. It's not even a chorus. He's just slightly tweaked the line in two verses.

A mole digging in a hole, digging up my soul now, going down. Excavation. And then he loves to talk about eye and eye in the sky. So he's also taking from Rastafari. Eye and eye, yeah. Wow, okay. And then it just ends with him saying elevation

six times. That's the one. I think you two are aliens or at least that Bono is an alien and that's why they're named you two is because they're a spy plane from another planet just here to spy on

us. And that's why when Bono was busted dressed as a rabbi that he spends why when Bono was busted, uh, dressed as a rabbi, um, that, you know, he, he spends all this time in a disguise.

This is one of my conspiracy theories. I think if people spend a little more time thinking about it, uh, they, they'd realize I'm right. What is something you think is underrated guy? Uh, well,

funnily enough, it's actually molds. So, uh, after I was looking up the lyrics, I started wondering why the hell Bono wouldn't stop banging on about moles. And, did you know moles can dig up to 18 feet in an hour?

What? No. What? That's so far. That's further than our strongest strongman with a shovel. So really, this is an educational. I'm sorry, you said 18 feet in one hour? 18 feet in one hour. Hmm.

I mean, I would want to put our human strongman up against a mole with a shovel. I guess it's about how big the hole is. Yeah, yeah. I think the hole that a mole's digging is not of any real value to us. But in the mole community, you know, that's going to be a popular hole. You've got to imagine. Do you think Bono knew that when they wrote the song? He's like, oh, it's burrowing 18 full feet into my soul.

Well, I'm so glad you bring this up, Jamie, because so you would think. But he distracts himself in the rest of this. feet into my soul well i'm so glad you bring this up jamie because so you would think but he distracts himself with the rest of this you know it would have been lovely if elevation just became a sort of list of facts about moles and you know like all of a sudden he's talking about the fact that moles don't hibernate well you know but instead he keeps going back to the sky also did you know moles what they do is they paralyze insects and bugs with poison that lives in their saliva. And then once they're paralyzed, they take them to a little like a cellar. They've got a specific room that they've built where they just put all of their food.

It's more like it. That's creepy. It's a meat cellar. Yeah. Moles rock. I have a conspiracy theory that moles are aliens. Jack, do you have a full-on whiteboard in front of you just with lists of the fifth conspiracy this morning?

I have completely lost my mind, guys. What is something you think is overrated, guy? I think that the 2004 U2 special edition ipod classic is a piece of shit uh-huh are you talking about that project red one yeah it's so one of them one of them sold for like ninety thousand dollars um really yeah and two and 2014 i think us dollars yeah oh wow um which is i just think it's too much i mean the battery life would have been totally totally killed on that thing i don't know i don't know i i think it's bullshit and then 10 years later you two also they they made a bunch of apple users listen to their music remember that that was such a funny thing to do how how confident do you have to be to be like no i like it they're gonna like we're

not gonna follow the traditional model of people who want to listen to our, choosing to do so. Wow, Guy, you're right. Someone did buy it for $90,000 on eBay. God damn. Who? For a 20 gig version. I just think that's too much money. Yeah, I mean, that's a bit of a hot take, but I'm willing to have your back on that one. Thank you.

We'll go along with it, but we're... But the listeners should know we feel different. We're pinching our nose as we go along with that take. It's appreciated. Do you think any other piece of music has been turned off and discussed as much as U2's album that they forced us? What was it?

Songs of Memory? Songs of Experience? Songs of Trauma? Whatever. Songs of Trauma. Songs of Memory? Songs of Experience? Songs of Trauma? Songs of Trauma? Songs of... I feel like that was the... Songs of Experience, Songs of Memory. I think we're the out.

U2's Songs of Trauma was the original Kimmel's celebrities reading out mean tweets. It was just Bono lamenting criticism he's had for wearing sunglasses his whole life. Yeah. That also ties into my alien theory. Because his eyes blink the other way. They blink sideways.

He blinked with two sets of eyelids? Yeah. So that's why he asked to always wear sunglasses. What is a myth, Guy? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, I think a lot of people, in my experience, they seem to think that things like sickness and death are sort of just par for the course in humanity

and a lot of that stuff we've brought upon ourselves. But from what I understand, you'll remember in the last episode I was on, I was telling you guys about how Prometheus stole fire from the gods and wound up chained to a rock. Right. Yeah. Famously. Well, I've traced the origins of sickness and death back to a similar time

when while he was chained to a rock, Zeus was still so angry at Prometheus. You know, he sent down a beautiful woman named Pandora and Prometheus looked at Pandora and was like, something is up here. There's no way in hell this is not without, you know, a catch. And so he sort of spurned Pandora. And I'll tell you who he was really excited about was about his brother, Epimetheus, and he wed Pandora.

You know, no questions asked. And it was a beautiful wedding by all accounts. And as a gift from the gods, Mercury, this guy, the messenger of the gods showed up with this beautiful box. And he said, hey, guys, I'm going to dip for a couple of years. Here's a box. Think of it as a carryover gift. Do not open the box, which is such an asshole move. I mean, if you give anyone a box, beautiful box,

and you say don't open the box, instinctively you're going to want to open the box. And while Epimetheus had no troubles with that, Pandora kept looking at the box and eventually she opened it. And what should come darting out of the box? But sickness and death and many other unspecified evils. I guess snake.

And so we can trace it all back to her. So it's really good to clear that up. That's good. I like a good historical lesson that reminds you women cannot be trusted. Especially not with gifts. That's why you can't get them anything nice.

Not even in ancient Greece. Traditionally a boom time for women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Otherwise a golden age. Pandora naming themselves Pandora, the app Pandora, was a real, they're really calling their shot there. And I don't think they've been quite that consequential personally. But that's just me.

I mean, you know, they're doing the light version where they're like, it's just, you know, it's not going to be that dark. It's just you'll find some cool stuff that you won't be able to stop listening to and hear Walgreens. I've been using Pandora since high school, but when I was using it, it was like dog shit. They would like recommend you music with someone who had the same first name

as the person you were just listening to that is such a good example of a human being guessing at what an algorithm is it would take you from Brandon Flowers to the other one what's the one that Taylor Swift is friends with?

It doesn't matter. Yuri. Brandon Yuri. I would just get like- Oh, wow. Yeah, shuttled between Brandons for hours on end. Yeah. I mean, that is how I,

that is my taste in music actually, is people named Brandon. It's a real Pandora's box of music. It's just a slew of people who have written a song with the first name Brandon. It's a real Pandora's box of music. It's just a slew of people who have written an ice song with the first name Brandon. What did they think we were going to do with this technology? All right, guys. Let's take a quick break,

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Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like,

oh, wow, it was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back coronavirus what is it disinformation oh what is it yeah there there's a couple things that seemed transparently like bullshit to i think most people who were paying attention who would be listening to this show i guess one of them being that uh bill gates started the coronavirus uh and in order to profit off of a cure the problems with that is

that he doesn't need to do that to make all the money in the world because he's already a billionaire the not a not a good plan by him. Yeah, but they need more. They need more, though. That's why I believe it, man, because when does it stop, man? Oh, interesting. So that was one of the really dumb pieces of misinformation. There was another thing that I actually kind of got caught up in

because there was a – about you two being from another, no, there was a thing about, there was a thing that the US military was going to start enforcing stay at home orders, basically. And there was this video

that was shared on social media that had like this big line of tanks driving into San Diego that was being shared as like this is right now you guys the military's coming in to enforce and it was not it was like some sort of they were coming for like a military exercise or something yeah also it's not like there's like a gigantic base right there be fun if be fun if it was like three people cosplaying as tanks for Comic-Con. They're like, look, it's happening. It's time.

Yeah, it's like living by Dodger Stadium and seeing people in Dodger gear and you're like, whoa, I don't know about this. Think of gangs in town to take over the city. Enough of this making fun of me for being stupid. I did for a second I But yeah, I did.

For a second, I was like, oh, no. Honey, come here. Look at this. Lock the doors. Well, there was another video that was one from a guy in Silver Lake. And I know who took that. It was like someone I know's boss or some shit was taking. Because there's another one from Silver Lake with ones going by the reservoir.

And they're like, it's LA too, man. It's not like they have to move infrastructure around. Some fucking development show. because there's another one from Silver Lake with ones going by the reservoir and they're like, it's LA too, man. It's not like they have to move infrastructure around, but yeah. Some fucking development show is like, it's happening. You've also got to consider people who own tanks recreationally and need to travel them from place to place at a time like this. Obviously, it's not deliberately, but they'll be confusing a lot of people, not unlike yourself Jack, sort of the fucking idiots of society

will probably find it pretty confusing Fair, you know I've been nailed Of those theories, I like the Bill and Melinda Gates one better, that's more fun for me Yeah, it's more fun He wants Bill and Melinda Gates one better. That's more fun for me. Yeah, it's more fun.

He wants to buy Melinda a new body or something. He wants to make her an Iron Man suit, so he had to do this. I really like watching them interviewed together because he checks with her. When he talks, he's always gesturing to her to be like, she's really letting me say this. Like that's what his body language says. And I like it. Like she clearly runs,

runs shit in that household. The other reason that people thought that was believable was because Bill Gates was like, Hey, we are really in a bad place for a pandemic. Like this could be coming last year. And people were like, no way could science tell you that this could be coming last year. And people were like, no way could

science tell you that. This must be a conspiracy theory. But anyways, a lot of these are, it turns out, being not necessarily started, but definitely stoked by Russia, China, and Iran, according to US intelligence, Facebook in particular. it's the same sort of dynamic that has been fucking with the US in general for the past seven years one thing I've noticed is Russia absolutely love goofing around with you guys on Facebook it's one of their big hobbies yeah I just want to tell them, knock it off. Yeah. Yeah.

If only some Russians were listening to the Daily Zeitgeist, we could finally sort this thing out once and for all. Please, come on, knock it off. All right, enough with that now. And even more so now than four years ago, it's truly only parents on Facebook now. They're the only ones left. It's a huge voter block of dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb

people. That's the only way you're gonna get that kind of news. I'm like, I've never heard anyone say that to me about something that's happening right now. Yeah, you know that. I'm like, what? No, it's like our mom's friends. Yeah, it's the exact generation of people who would take the information as read

and then sort of dispense it with total authority without considering second guessing it at all. The sort of things my mom posts on Facebook would make you sick. Like it makes, it's like an entirely different language. She'll just send, she sent me like 10 memes in a row, like within six minutes yesterday and then ended up being like by the way your childhood friend has COVID real bad and then like waited it was like I'll send

you this screenshot it's like it's like two horny memes like three emojis one thing saying like Massachusetts schools are closed for the rest of the year and then your dear friend has COVID and then 10 minutes later he's fine.

I feel like your mom should start a newsletter. That sounds like a lot of fun. Great way to start the day. That's great content, Jamie. That's what that's called. Yeah, content creation runs, courses through my veins. That whole experience felt like an ayahuasca simulator.

The engagement on that communication has to be through the roof. So she should actually be working in tech. She sent me a picture of my dog at some point in the middle. It's wild. Yeah. But anyways, a lot of this overlapsaps with q which this is one of the i i'm sure a lot of other people have had this thought before but like q is probably real right yeah he's probably i had that thought too man he's probably muller right no but i mean they're like at the very least he's probably uh stoked by a foreign country

that wants to fuck with how the u.s functions uh but anyways i i thought there was a in this article uh on the wall street journal that was about uh how hatred of the Gates Foundation and his speculation that he started coronavirus is next to a list of most popular articles and the number two one is Bill and Melinda Gates bought a $43 million house in San Diego. And it just, it's like... Some hot overlap. Yeah, but it's also... That's some hot, hot overlap like... Some hot overlap. Yeah, but it's also...

That's some hot, hot overlap. It's hot overlap, but it's also like this algorithm-driven world where it's, I don't know, it's whatever they think will get people to click is just the thing that serves us our news rather than... Yeah, I've seen the rest of that most red tab, and it's all articles about various different people called bill right you can't help yourself that's right uh another

piece of information misinformation uh it's not like we need these other countries to help spread misinformation because we've got uh the president and Dr. Oz doing it themselves. Yeah. Specifically with hydroxychloroquine. You can just call him Mr. Oz, Jack. No one has to call him doctor. Exactly. Call him the Wizard of Oz now.

It's almost too on the nose that he is named Oz and he is completely full of shit. Right, right. So he's, you know, him along with the president and many other people on Fox News have been screaming about hydroxychloroquine and how you need to rub it all over your ass and neck or whatever, eat it,

and then you will be cured of all your ills. There was like a woman who like tweeted something that the president retweeted even, where she was like, I made a full recovery thanks to hydroxychloroquine trademark. And, you know, this has been a thing where many experts have said, hold on, we don't know actually anything about this drug. Like, sure, maybe someone there's some anecdotal evidence, but we don't have anything like really that we can sink our teeth into. So please, can we wait for some real evidence? And now that we have it, it seems like there is no miracle. One of the latest studies or the few studies that have come out showed that the drug

basically had no benefit in helping patients that had COVID-19. And then one study that was done with U.S. veterans showed that more deaths were and then one study that was done with u.s veterans showed that more deaths were occurring uh in the group that were being treated with hydroxychloroquine than the group that was not so that's where it stands now and now we're seeing everybody from the trump administration to dr oz doing the i would the hydroxyl huh the? The what? Nope, don't know. Hydroxycut. Never heard of it. What do we think Stedman thinks about all of this? Because a lot of people

are demanding an apology from Oprah for introducing Dr. Like unleashing Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil. The two fake doctors

onto the scene. She has not said anything about it. I wonder if Stbman's trying to push her one way or another not that it would work yeah i'm just curious about where he stands dr oz and dr phil are like those two friends you invited to a party and you're like i think they're gonna know how to act and then the beginning they did and now they do not they've shown they're like i should not have invited them to the party it's 3 a.m at their party yeah right and they're talking about like eating like mixing lysol with like dr oz is saying he has the

last lewds on earth you're just like this guy needs to get out of here so you know the president was asked about this they said hey have you seen this study you know you've been talking a lot about hydroxychloroquine and he goes nah i haven't seen this study but uh that's the only one we're taking a look at and we're just like dodging all these questions and dr oz i just again we really need to we really need to compare the words of this man um okay let's just go back what this is the year of our lord, April 9th, okay, of 2020. And this is what Dr. Oz is saying about, you know, how people need to embrace it. And the reason people are hating on hydroxychloroquine

is because Trump, and that's not fair. Just because you don't like that a political leader said one thing or the other, it undermines the fundamental process of the doctor talking to the patient. Yeah, that politician, she said it saved her life she thought she was going to die and the alternative was take this medicine so it just makes sense for someone to take it if they think they're going to die I don't understand why this is so political but let's um anyway you just need to listen

to you can ask one question yeah yeah yes may i ask one question if the if it had never been brought up at a white house briefing this medication would people still feel the same way about it that's the fundamental question i think we ought to be asking because the ideas around this existed before it was brought up okay so that's him saying hey man this is they're framing it as people are dying this could save them what's the big deal i love that one of the arguments that he makes to bolster the strength of encouraging the use of this drug is that just imagine that no one who is in the highest office in our country brought it up like right immediately identifying that as a reason people would be skeptical it's insane and let's just cut to

uh mere moments ago where this is dr oz on fox and friends kind of being like oh i don't know i mean like we need to pump the brakes on this whole thing well the va study looked at older and quite a bit sicker patients all male patients in their hospitals and they show that the drug by itself didn't help and might harm that population. As you know, there have been other studies. The VSA was retrospective. They looked back to see what had happened because they weren't gathering the data at the time that they were actually giving the medications. Studies that have done this prospectively, so looking forward and giving it as they were collecting data as they're going along, like in France or the randomized trials from China china have shown benefits but only really when it's given earlier to patients the fact the matter is

we don't know thankfully these these medications are prescription only so doctors are desperately awaiting the completion of the higher quality randomized trials and we've you've covered them on the show several times in south dakota university minnesota now has over a thousand patients randomized there's additional trials going on. Let's get that data so we know what we're dealing with. Almost like that's why you do tests is so that you know and you don't talk about it before the tests, before you have that scientific information. But just three weeks ago, it was, you know, if people are dying and they want to take it, just let them take it. I don't know what the big deal is.

They don't want to mess with this stuff because the president and to literally saying we just we actually don't know if this is going to work. Right. What the fuck? It's sometimes it's worse for them. I mean, that's that's what I'm hearing. But it was we find out from the test. It was uncomfortable. I mean, not uncomfortable, but he was squirming like, you know know he was trying to sort of say like oh like point to these other studies

that might actually vindicate him by saying like you know there's other ones yeah that we haven't seen that maybe but you know and then this one it's more retrospective and and so it was like okay asshole we get it you got caught plagiarizing your fucking essay he does that like this is not the first time he's done this either he's done this like so many times throughout his career where he'll just push something actively harmful and then like backpedal on it when it starts to like be doc like clearly documented that it's hurting people like he did the same thing when he was telling everyone to get fucking like coffee enemas a couple years ago. Like it's just escalated in the seriousness of how much he's hurting people.

It's I'll, I'll be the one to say it. It's bad. Okay. Wow. Damn it. Again, because we're Americans,

but you're actually not allowed to criticize Dr. Oz. Yeah. It's like when someone makes fun of your sibling. You lay the fuck off of Dr. Oz. You shut the fuck up. Meanwhile,

there are the protesters on the right. Obviously, there aren't as many of them. They're getting an inordinate amount of uh attention for you know not not having huge numbers but they're now attacking real nurses and real doctors uh not like physically attacking but like shouting at them and uh getting in their faces and calling them fake nurses and crisis actors. Oh, wow. Honestly,

if you, if you protest that again, just like we have climate change deniers, they need a registry. If you think doctors and nurses are climate, are crisis actors, get on a registry where you will go to a crisis hospital, uh,

and real actors who don't know what they're doing will treat you. I mean, some people would continue to make that argument. They'd be like, wow, that incredible actor did emergency surgery on me. They must have gone to fucking Juilliard. The thing is, you can believe in this for as long as you choose.

You can just be like, wow, I got lucky. I guess I got the one actor who also trained at medical school. Actually, no, that actor was so method, he did the eight years of medical training to perform that surgery. The dedication of these creeps is really. Meanwhile, Dr. Oz is a genuine crisis actor. He's a guy who has been performing the role of a doctor for his whole life.

No, but this guy he fucks right but we've talked before about how uh doctors get attacked whenever there's a plague or outbreak like this so i mean that's like this is par for the course and we just have to be ready for it and be aware that that shit's gonna happen unfortunately it's one of them is it it's a i'm it's excuse my ignorance here it's a challenging position i guess because one of the problems is like if you platform all of these people who's you know firmly held beliefs are so far off the boil it's like you're giving opportunity for more people to catch wind of that and then also buy

in but i mean what you know is there any value in just outright ignoring it or is that sort of just leaving them to their devices mean that you're permitting that behavior to continue i'm personally of the opinion that you need to talk about it because otherwise it'll just it will be covered on in certain places like in conservative media and it'll be covered as like them doing the right thing so i just don't like i i don't think you can just totally ignore it and assume it'll go away like i think people who are smart need to know about the really dumb shit that's happening and you know so that we can come up with strategies for dealing with it because otherwise it'll just... It's like ignoring a fire.

It's just gonna keep growing. To de-platform all that stuff, I guess you need total buy-in from all facets of the media, which is obviously... Right, from Facebook. Sorry, it's the Facebook company, you guys. Let's be respectful. The Facebook company.

Facebook. I like them so much more now. Take them seriously, okay? I love Facebook. We're just a company of people, you guys. It's not like we're some ominous threat. That is wild that their PR was so bad that they benefited from reminding people

they were a company. Usually people want to distance themselves from that. It's crazy to think now the amount of space between the launch of Facebook and how ingrained in society it is that we just accept that this website that was a regular feature was just called facebook like it's the most sort of robotic android style title for anything yeah it's a book of face it's just a it's a fucking journal of faces for you to pull through. Yeah. The Book of Faces is like something very ominous from the world of Game of Thrones.

The Book of Faces. Oh, yeah. And also, like, I think the reason they're going with the Facebook company is because the reality is you can think of them as like a hostile nation state. Like, that's how powerful and populous and dangerous they are. So they're like,

no, we're just a little company here. Just a fun little social media company. They should get PPP money. From when I started this in my dorm room as a college freshman. As a guy drinking Snapple apple pies. Jesusesus wherever those drinks

were in his room so uh old people who have typically been trump's kind of main jam are are starting to get a little bit frustrated with him uh at least at this point we'll see if uh that holds or if the fox news of it all and the divisions of the upcoming election change that trend. But as of right now, we're starting to see the unthinkable, which is an anti-Trump trend. Very, very small one. And all it took was a historic mishandling of a global pandemic. Yeah. Right.

Finally. Not even even generational like century it hasn't happened in centuries yeah the 65 plus crowd has big i don't know i mean again these are polls we can't i don't use this to go to sleep at night i use it to say oh old some old people are angry right now it looks, and then we'll see what happens in November. But Biden has a nine-point lead over the 65-plus voting demographic in this one poll, and it's pretty significant considering the next group is the young people. They're only second to the 18 to 34 demographic in terms of what the gap looks like. And then there's a morning consult poll that shows that mid-March, the senior citizens were loving it. They approved of his handling of the outbreak by a net approval of plus 19.

And then a month later, it swung 20 points. I was going to say, that had to have been early. Yeah, it's dropped 20 points so it's weird i mean i again i'm not saying that they've completely lost hope but it must it must have an effect on elderly people even though they have like their steady fox news diet that they're not dumb enough to ignore the news that like older people are dying in like scores in like nursing homes and probably younger relatives are like saying hey don't be stupid this could be really bad and like hmm so yeah the the numbers kind of show that i've been i mean i've been working with seniors like almost every day for the last month. And it's like, people are getting fucking pissed. And I mean,

like rightfully so. But as, as like the, I mean, it's kind of, it's weird. Cause I feel like some of it falls into like, Oh,

we're like-minded where they're, they're really frustrated with how the government is handling, um, just treatment and making sure that, uh, seniors are protected. And then there's another faction of seniors that are like, I just want to go fucking outside.

And so they're mad that he's telling us to stay inside. So, you know, seniors are wild. We got to protect them, but you don't have to listen to their opinions too carefully or you'll start to get a headache. I co-sign that. I think keep them alive, but there's got to be a cutoff where they don't get to vote anymore.

They're not going to be living through the consequences of their decision like right it seems absurd because all of your presidential candidates for a time seem to be within that same age bracket so it seems rude to let them run for president but not vote for who becomes president but there's got to be a point where you say look guys your hands are off the wheel at this point yeah obviously i can't imagine this getting a lot of groundswell support it's just i'm just pontificating a crazy theory where it's like if you're over 75 you don't vote it's only between 18 and 75 you get to vote and otherwise your opinions at the very least it's like the like the legislation that does affect it it's like hold on like you don't you don't need it you don't get a you don't get a say in this thing about like what our energy mix is going to look like for the next

40 years if you're a septuagenarian or whatever and it's like kind of a voting block that generally tends to vote on issues that only affect them specifically uh but now it is affecting them specifically in like huge numbers so i i don't know it it makes sense to me that trump would lose a fair number of them to to make a huge difference all you would have to do is make them their vote commensurate with their representation in the population because they actually are overrepresented they vote way more than anybody else. So if you just made it like, well, they're 15% of the population, so their vote counts for 15% of the overall vote total, that would completely shift how America looked.

A wild proposition. In truth, it does sound pretty brutal to take the power of voting away from them because younger people can't be bothered to do it. With hindsight, you know, obviously we're still ironing out the kinks on this thought experiment. They don't call them senior citizens for nothing. They're good-ass citizens. Yeah, they are.

They go out. And they're old, too. I love... They live up to every aspect of the title. They're really nailing it when it comes to being seniors and being citizens. Man, I love my seniors. I hope they don't vote for Trump. That would be great.

Jamie, you're out there doing the Lord's work. Just listening to recaps of Bosch. 80% of the job. People love Bosch. Old people love Bosch. I wasn't going to say that to Gabrus the other day, but. People love Bosch. People love them so much. Old people love Bosch. I wasn't going to say that to Gabrus the other day, but old people love Bosch. The olds love Bosch.

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and we're back and uh more good news for netflix netflix's guy just blew out an old-timey candle yeah he did guy it's important that people should people it's important that people know that Guy has a sleeping cap on and one of those big full body sleeping gowns. Yeah. Yeah. No, Guy had a candle and it was really lovely. It was a good long time. It was giving off some Barry Lyndon vibes for all you Kubrick heads out there. I was using it

because the candle was lighting the room but now I've noticed that the sun is doing a lot of the heavy lifting. The big candle in the sky. It represents a transitional moment in my day from morning to mid-morning. Yeah, welcome.

Wait, are you, what day is it there? Is it Wednesday there? Thursday. No, baby. Thursday. It's Thursday. Thursday, wow. I'm 19 hours ahead of you turkeys.

Ah, damn it. We should take more advantage of that and have you look at the, what's going on in the news to get us ahead. You guys. Did anyone ever watch that show? Early edition. Yeah. Did I fucking watch? That show rock Edition. Yeah. Did I fucking watch?

That show rocked. It's a good show. Yeah. And that guy went on to have a really good career. I really liked him in that show. What's his name? He was in Friday Night Lights. Yeah, he's the coach from Friday Night Lights.

Kyle. Kyle, what's his name? And his friend would always show up at his house and beg him for sports tips. And he'd be like, no, there's going to be a fire down in the city center. I got to go and pitch in. Fisher Stevens was in it? That show was good. Damn.

That was a good show. Underrated. Early edition. Could be worth a revisit if anyone's got, I don't know, an unholy amount of time on their hands in the open-ended period. All right. So Netflix. all right so netflix uh here's something that guy could have told us uh to invest in netflix because uh they added 15.8 million subscribers over uh that was january through march whereas

they had been projecting 7.2 million. According to this article, the streamer attributed the huge uptick to people staying at home due to the coronavirus pandemic. Someone was paid to figure that out. We really crushed it this quarter. At least they were like, yeah, it's the thing that you know it is. A lot of people were celebrating. celebrating they're like wow it's

great but even netflix is telling shareholders like easy now just in the same way that this shot the fuck up people like this is not forever people will go back home like back to working and not just watching shit all day and we'll see shit drop off again so it's like so they were kind of like yeah this is fine. I mean, we expected it, but... The thing that was interesting about this article, they were talking about how popular Tiger King also helped bring more people into Netflix, too,

because everyone was talking about it. But... It's like required. Yeah, and it was one of their most-watched series. I didn't realize that the title, though, of most-watched series belongs to The Witcher on Netflix. The Witcher, of course. Yeah, you didn't realize that the title, though, of Most Watched Series belongs to The Witcher on Netflix. The Witcher, of course. Yeah, you didn't know that?

Really? No, man. All my Witcher heads out there. What? Didn't know that. I feel like the Bosch and Witcher audiences are a circle. Could someone please tell me the basic premise of The Witcher? I have no idea.

I've never really heard of it before, to be honest. Isn't it? It's like a really famous guy oh it's about a video dan knows dan knows based off a video game it's based off a video game of course and uh i i think there's a lead actor who has long blonde hair could be wrong i think swords i'm pretty i'm pretty sure it's about a bunch of witches. That's a show called Gossip Girl. Oh, that's right. I was thinking of Blake Lively. This is everyone's favorite part of listening to a podcast

is when they have the information that none of us have. It's Henry Cavill and their tits. I don't want any part of that. I don't like a single part of that. one's hen oh that's superman henry cavill's nasty he like dates 19 year olds he's gross oh does he yeah he does he dates like uh college students but he's 500 that always throws me over well then i guess the witcher isn't a clever name then for what he's up to. It's actually Super Producer Daniel's favorite show.

He's defending it really hard. It's getting a little embarrassing. He said the tits are natural so they're at least time appropriate. He said huge naturals, huge ratings. Huge whimsical magicals. Huge whimsical magicals. I said whimsical magicals.

Whimsical natural. Some of the stuff that's coming up now, it's actually, it's unreadable, but rest assured, Dan really gets behind The Witcher. Yeah. There's actually a change.org petition making the rounds to make, and usually I don't like to talk about this

but i think this idea is actually not a bad idea both for netflix and society uh they are trying to get a petition started to make netflix and disney plus free during the pandemic which yeah again change.org petitions have never caused anything to happen ever no but they i think it's an interesting idea because first of all it's you know people it would be the right thing to do but also like from a business standpoint hbo when you like get cable there's always like some ridiculous offer where they're like six free months of hbo at the start and then like once you're hooked they use the drug dealer uh model this is the large-scale scam that every internet company like every website everyone uses they go hey i tell you what two weeks up front on the

house all you have to do is give us your credit card information and your unwavering trust that we will not abuse like it's a brilliant business model i don't i mean i don't know i find netflix to be a a real pain in the ass unless you go on with a strategy you know for how much content there is i spend more time scrolling than i do actually consuming anything i enjoy yeah yeah you can't go in there and just hope to happen upon something. It's hard to see everything unless you search for it. Otherwise, it's just algorithming

you and you're like, I see the same 200 images. The three movies starring guys named Brandon. Yeah, exactly. It's bad. Would you like some more movies about Brandon? Are you still watching movies about Brandon? Yes.

Check out The Crow with Brandon Lee. I let them trick me into re-watching the catfish documentary the other day. That's been at the top of the screen. When it's Little Neve getting catfished by a pathological liar. It's good. Isn't that also Jarecki? That is Jarecki, and I didn't even realize it was Jarecki,

and I'm like, wow, he's just shaped. Andrew Jarecki, my Las Vegas magician king. Yeah. Is it really? Yeah, Jarecki made Neve Shulman. What? That was a very manipulative, fucked up original documentary. It was.

Yeah, they were... I felt so bad for the woman catfishing him. Right. Yeah. That was so fucked up. Whereas traditionally, you would feel bad for the person being catfished. Right, but it's hard to feel for Niamh Shulman. He's such a little shit.

I haven't seen the movie. I was just on the Wikipedia page for this guy, Andrew Jarecki. Yeah. They didn't include a photo, which frustrates me. Do I got to find a photo? You got to find a photo of him

interviewing Robert Durst. He looks like a magician, but he's actually a douchebag oh he's the guy who did the jinx god damn i love that show the jinx is the best show of all time here guy here wait check out my screen oh oh no there oh there he is yes wait that's a horrifying there he is that a png does that's a horrifyingly weird. There he is. Is that a PNG? Does he have a body? Oh, my God. It doesn't matter. It just doesn't need a body.

Guy, do you think that Robert Durst did it? Yes or no? No way. Come on. Okay, thank you. He said he did it. Did we watch the same documentary? Oh, no. Jamie has found her part in the crime

it's funny to me that Catfish is a show where like the entire emotional arc is like we're supposed to feel sorry for somebody who's like you told me you were hot right how could you betray me like that and then it's always like their assistant manager

it's the best show ever right the best ones are also when it's like a really spiteful cousin cousin's friend and you're like oh my god what the fuck and they're like you said my hair looked bad at that one party and you're're like, Oh my God, it's so good. Years of your life went into this because of that moment. My favorite part of every catfish episode is that Neve added that guy with the silver hair, Max, to just follow him around with a camcorder and be like,

I don't know, Neve, we should reverse Google image search this guy. And like, that's his whole part in the show. Is that Max, Max Joseph? Yeah. He directed the Zac Efron. we are your friends did you watch i watched that movie for a season of my podcast

the worst idea of all time oh my god i watched we are your friends directed by maximum joseph 52 times in a calendar year and it was one of the worst decisions i've made in my life can you tell me again what the bpm is for the human heartbeat uh 120 bpm that's the that's where you want to get it that's what's gonna get that's what's gonna get emily regit kowski moving on the dance floor and that's the same bpm as edm you think that's a coincidence i don't think so bro oh man sent me free can Can you explain the just We Are Your Friends was an incredible movie that was wildly unsuccessful. So I feel like not enough people know what we're talking about.

It was. It was like one of the least successful movies of all time. Yeah, historically unsuccessful. The basic premise was that Zac Efron is a DJ and Emily Rashikowski and him need to have sex. And you'd think that would be enough. But for reasons unknown to me, that was not compelling viewing for about 90 minutes. It was Max Joseph's directorial debut.

And it was an overwhelming failure. Yeah. and it was an overwhelming failure. Yeah, and I mean, for Catfish fans, that's when you'll remember the slew of celebrity guest co-hosts that Neve would partner up with during the episodes. That's because Max was busy in pre-production, production, and post-production for We Are Your Friends, the 2015, again, tour de force. I have never seen it.

I have to see it. No, no, no. I'm here to tell you jamie categorically you do not need to see this movie there are certain movies like from the 70s that are uh you can just tell like they're they're kind of forgotten to time but they're like the perfect encapsulation like uh i forget the name of it but like there's this one that's like a disco musical like weird thing that's this perfect encapsulation of like a moment in the 70s that like should not have ever been documented and i feel like that movie is that for whatever time it came out and it's like just it's about edm and like the coachella like a really like douchey coachella vibe what really

killed me about that movie is the whole time we went to buy into like zach efron's characters artistic integrity and his genuine desire to produce like phenomenal edm music and the whole movie like that all of this is building towards him making this one track that will sort of mark his arrival on the on the scene and the song he makes is just literally a collection of recordings that he's gone out and got on his phone on a morning run the day of his gig and he plays it to 5 000 people in a car park and it sounds terrible it sounds so bad and it smashes i I'm like, you're a movie whose entire marketing angle is we love electronic dance music and the one specific song that you've written for the film

just sucked so much ass. Yeah. Anyway, I don't need to get sucked down the rabbit hole of discussing. Yeah. This is a fully traumatic memory. DJ Danil has been defending that movie to me for years. He's going off. He said it's the Witcher of movies.

Right. He said it's the Godfather 2 of Witchers. Oh, he said he went to the premiere. Oh, yeah, because DJ Danil literally was living that life shout out to gladiator wow sure look at look that group up if you want to see dj daniel's sorted edm roots but the the actual when you break down the money that we are your friends mate it's really fucking sad because it made 1.8 million in the opening weekend and that was across around 2300 theaters that's about 758 dollars per theater it was the lowest return for a widely distributed uh feature film i think in

cinema history wow it was all yeah and then it was later bested by the gem and the holograms film which that's totally unfair because that's a great film. Obviously, you got Gem, but you've also got the Holograms. You thought you were just getting Gem, but then boom. When you break down, though, what those figures are, it's $1.8 million, right? They're saying $758 per theater. And you'd say, what, that's counting a Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

So that's $252 a day per theater and you'd say what that's counting a friday saturday sunday so that's 252 dollars a day per theater and that's not from how many screening how many showings are they doing yeah oh yeah that's oh you're getting like you're getting like five and six person showings where people are just like yo are you on mo O'Malley in here too? This has me missing my AMC stubs. That was the kind of movie you would go see in Dolby Digital. You get the big stupid thing of bacon, macaroni, and cheese. And then you drink at the theater

and you watch We Are Your Friends. Yes, please. That's how I saw Doolittle. That sounds great. I actually, yeah, I went and saw Doolittle three times at one cinema in one day recently. That sounds great. I actually, yeah, I went and saw Doolittle three times at one cinema in one day recently. And two of the screenings my friend Tim and I had entirely to ourselves.

And one of them, we arrived late. We'd gone to get a drink from the food court. And there was no one in the cinema, but the movie was very much underway. It was one of the most surreal things to walk into. Like three minutes into the movie, it was just playing to no one. I've never seen it before. Did John Cena polar bear? Right.

Guy, are you part of some sort of like cruel psychological experiment like using cinema or is that just a hobby of yours? Yeah, when I'm not appearing on the Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast I host, The Worst Idea of All Time, it started as just we would watch and review Grown Ups 2 every week for a year. Right. And then in recent times,

it spiraled out into other experimental forms of cinema watching. We did Cats earlier in the year. We did Our Week with Cats. We went to the cinema and watched Cats every day for a week. Again, we were sort of comprising the bulk of each turnout at the cinema. And on the last day, we actually went and I hired us some costumes, some cat costumes, and we went. And we had this same woman selling us the tickets every day,

and she did not like us. And we went in there on the seventh day to get these tickets in our cat costumes, and she did not bat an eyelid. And she said to me so you guys know we are programming cats again next week because the volume of times you've seen and brought people to come and watch

this movie with you has actually impacted the numbers so it's now being programmed ahead of other films which is the opposite of the desired effect that we wanted to have yeah but I'm not I guess I am trapped inside of it somewhat. It comprises part of my income

now, so in a sense I'm tethered to watching bad movies. Yeah. It's a hell of an area of expertise. Well, I hope you're proud of yourself for contributing to Katz's extended cinema. Nor are my family.

Hope you're proud of yourself for contributing to Katz's extended cinema. Nor are my family. Well, Guy, it's been a pleasure having you. We're always proud to have you. It was a Peter Sagal-esque transition there. Where can people find you, follow you, enjoy you? You can find me at Guy underscore Mont on Twitter and Instagram. And also, while I am here and talking about the podcast, we made a pilot a couple of years ago that didn't make it to air, but we just released it online on YouTube.

And in the pilot, we invent method film reviewing, and we move into an abandoned new york city subway station and subsist entirely on pizza while we watch teenage mutant ninja turtles out of the shadows three times a day for five days you can find it on youtube if you look up the worst idea of all time pilot uh if you want to check that out i'm really proud of it so you know by all means i'll i'll tweet that out uh too we'll tweet it on the on the show so everybody who wants to see it can catch that yeah for sure thank you uh is there a tweet uh or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yeah i it was a tweet i read the other day that

really got me good it was uh one of those ones it's like a little play and it said wife use the newspaper to get that spider down me reads the news out loud spider oh holy shit and that was by at arf measures a r f measures uh jamie where can people find you and what's tweet you've been enjoying uh you can find me on twitter at uh jamie loftus help or instagram at jamie christ superstar got a bechdel cast coming out about clue this week uh and i want to recommend the entire twitter account of disneyland to go have either of you seen this before it's one of the best it's by this guy wait did they say that mickey died a while back was that they always are saying that mickey died and that goofy is a

socialist so it's this writer pj evans it's this writer pj evans who does it and the whole conceit of it is like updates from disneyland while they're closed and they've gotten so good. A couple, the castle is now a Hooters. Ansel Elgort's dick has to ride behind him on Splash Mountain. The pirates are smoking weed. Oh, and then the best one. We just dug up the time capsule from opening day 1955 and discovered an absolute

bombshell in a letter from Walt that said, never stop dreaming. Pinocchio's nose is actually a dick and its kink is lying. It's just like the best account ever. Everyone should follow it. That's amazing. What is it again? Disneyland to go. Numeral two. Disneyland to go. Got it. That's amazing. What is it again? Disneyland to go.

Numeral two. Disneyland to go. Got it. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey. Hopefully you're playing the terrible game

Ghost Recon Breakpoint like I am. It's awful, but I can't put it down. Also, my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, talking about 90 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra. A tweet I like is from Megan Amram, at Megan Amram. She says, I'm a real American. There are three things I love. Guns, the Confederate flag, hydroxychloroquine, and nail salons.

Yeah, why? Open up the nail salons. Yeah, why? Open up the nail salons. Wint at Drill tweeted, Marvel and DC Universe should be one universe. God's universe. Oh, and then Billy Eichner tweeted, there was a earthquake in LA last night and when everybody went

to Twitter to be like, was that an earthquake? He tweeted if you had what it takes to make it in Hollywood, you wouldn't have felt it to be honest. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? Okay, we're going to go out on miles what are we riding out on today okay we're gonna go out on this group uh elkin and nelson and they're like i don't know they're like if the if

colombian dudes were like the bgs they're they're colombian brothers who started kind of making this like disco-y version of of latin music uh when they moved to spain anyway i've played one of their songs very early on like in the very like when we first started writing out on songs with the track they have called abram paso but it was a remix then i started listening to their album uh during choir and the album is great it's like fucking it's sort of surreal to hear like all these latin rhythms with sort of like a disco aesthetic. So this is from an album called Ángeles y Demonios. And the track is called Jibaro.

And it's dope. Just check it out. This is Elkin and Nelson. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever fine podcasts are getting away for free. That is going to do it for this Thursday morning. We will be

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