The Daily Zeitgeist - Making Fun Of 2021 Predictions

Episode Date: December 29, 2021

In this holiday special Jack, Miles, Anna and Becca make fun of their 2021 predictions from last year. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/liste...ner for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this year-end episode of Dirty Night Geist! Yeah! This is a new one we're trying, a new format, where we're going to look back at the predictions that were made about 2021 and, you know, give people shit for being incredibly wrong. Including ourselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 We did a predictions episode last year. I went back and listened. We sounded very tired. I think it was the last thing we recorded in 2020. So I am Jack. I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes. Just here to take down people who are not clairvoyant.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Idiots! I'm going to just do that a lot. Oh my God, you idiot! Dude, why do people still listen to Nostradamus? This fool is like taking so many L's. Right. Well, he takes big swings. That's a big mistake you want to avoid.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Right. Miles, we are joined by super producers, Ana Hosnier. Ana. And Becca Ramos. Becca. Hello, hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:39 What's up, guys? Welcome, welcome. Thank you. The law firm of Hosnier, Ramos, Gray gray and o'brien there it is all right so yeah i did i did take a look back um that was my one piece of research and then becca you did a bunch more research so i'll just talk about last year's tdz predickeys first uh i used the word predickeys in that episode i don't know about that you shouldn't say the word predickeys in that episode. Yeah, I don't know about that. You shouldn't say that word. Predickeys?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Predickeys? I don't know about that. Dude. Okay. Predics. Oh, here we go. Predictions. Predictions.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Predictions. Anyways, we did end up spending a lot of the episode talking about sneezing and farting at the same time based on uh based on uh my miles's prediction that biden would give us one of the best gaffes ever um and yeah and that he completely just dropped the ball on his whole fucking illustration i was thinking of something a little more funny yeah and embarrassing it was a gaffe just not a bodily function gap yeah yeah it wasn't yeah it wasn't silly uh they hid all the silliness behind the scenes uh and i i don't know it does seem like they hid him for the most part they they heard that episode and were like oh my god hide him before he farts and sneezes at the same time oh god that would actually humanize him a
Starting point is 00:05:07 little to me i'd be like yeah okay i mean i've done that yeah they're like he ghosted putin on that call they're like what happened it's like he was farting and sneezing we couldn't even we couldn't even put him on a video call would have ruined everything miles you opened up with a pick of intensifying third party talk and i was like that is the stupidest prediction I've ever heard ever at the time. And you were right. It turns out. Yeah, no, this was dead on, at least in terms of how I felt about by the end of the year. I was like, we don't really have a way out of this with these two
Starting point is 00:05:46 parties do we no no and i think we're not quite at that phase where the the talk is serious but people are very much at that point where they're like man i'm off this shit like yeah that's where we're at right now i think that's the danger the most dangerous thing for Democrats is a bunch of disillusioned people who were like, I thought I would have my student debt canceled. I thought maybe I would have the $2,000 you fucking promised or $15 minimum wage. And I think that is, you know, it's, it's funny. You talk to so many people like the other day when we did that live show backstage, someone was like, they're like, he's like's like what party i don't know republicans like fuck that like democrats like i just want to scream at them all the time like because they're not doing anything and i think that's
Starting point is 00:06:33 kind of where a lot of people are whether or not they're able to articulate it so i'm curious to see if you know someone other than andrew yang tries to sort of ideate around a like a tangible third party type thing. But I don't know. I mean, I think that's, it is, people are definitely over it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. I predicted the rise of just sort of the other side of that coin. Like, can we just go back to sleep and stop paying attention to this sort of mainstream Democrat bullshit? I feel like that hasn't been true as much or at least it hasn't been that visible i'm sure it's true in some in some places people just being like well biden's got it i think that one is more like not as clearly articulated like can we just stop talking about this like
Starting point is 00:07:17 because we just had a hard four years it's more that like none of the like the media just doesn't isn't talking about anything that's like substantial at the moment. Like it's, if you watch the news, they would act like, yeah, why do people need to enhance unemployment benefits? The pandemic's over kind of. Yeah. And that's not the case. I think the most impressive prediction came from Anna Hosnier because she was talking
Starting point is 00:07:39 about how, you know, we haven't been driving from the pandemic. We won't drive as much uh but we will be worse at it there will be she didn't say a rise in accidents but like that was heavily implied and that is that was there was just a front page la times story that was like it's a shocking rise in accidents despite the fact that fewer people are on the road. So how, how did you know that in? No, I mean, that was just more like people don't know how to handle themselves in
Starting point is 00:08:11 general. So add a moving vehicle that can cause destruction and it's gonna, it's, it can't go any, any worse. I don't know. It's just so sad. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And you were recording that episode while speeding down a residential street yeah drinking a glass of wine smoking cigarettes like i'm wild in reverse pedal to the metal yo it's flying in reverse yep um anna you also i i said movies were gonna come back i don't know my predictions were very bland you went, I said movies were going to come back. I don't know. My predictions were very bland. You went back to the movies? I went back to the movies. That might have been pretty personal. Not a ton of people went back to the movies.
Starting point is 00:08:51 But Anna, you used that to talk about trying to escape our phones, which I do feel like is a more coherent idea that I'm hearing from more and more people. Just the idea of like, there's a book that's becoming more popular. That's basically the technology equivalent of the like how to quit smoking book. I think there's like a, a coherent movement by people who are just trying to leave that shit behind. Right. That's interesting. Cause I have gone fully just the other direction i now i'm like whatever lean in who cares at this point like i'm not even joking this is not a bit i know i'm mrs bits but uh i uh i have just like
Starting point is 00:09:38 i hate my life um i've gotten to this point where now I'm like I've had a very dark year if that wasn't clear but uh I just I can't keep pretending like I've got it figured out like I just I'm like yeah man these phones am I right they're spying on us they're listening to us like can we even like exist but it's just like what am i even doing like whatever there's gonna be a giant wave soon anyway that just takes my phone away from me regardless so like i i can't keep trying to fight this um never-ending tech doom that we're facing so now it's like i'll give my email to anybody offering me two percent off my first order at this point. I'm like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I'm already paying 10 bucks a month to have more gigabytes to get emails that give me anxiety. Like, what's the point? Sorry, is this dark? No, not at all. My prediction for the new year is a giant wave saving us from ourselves. No, the darkest thing was that, that like I'm kind of bummed out that you would let the wave like knock the phone out of your hand like I'm not
Starting point is 00:10:50 letting no fucking wave knock this fucking phone out of my hand fuck that you have one of those necklaces that have the phone protector you can swim with it that's my prediction for the year a rise and everyone will have the phone neck protector for when we're waiting for the year arise and everyone will have the phone neck protector
Starting point is 00:11:05 for when we're waiting for the wave to take us yeah anyway miles you had a good one about jake paul being the new donald trump but i think that one's still percolating in the background but definitely we got some mainstreaming of the paul brothers Bill Simmons had one of the Pauls on his podcast. I'm like, how'd you do it, man? How'd you like change boxing? It's like with racism. Yeah, I'm a fucking loser who showed up at the right time. That's all.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah. But otherwise, I think it's time to move on to making fun of other people's predictions from 2021 because yeah they're idiots unlike us who are smart and got everything almost exactly right and becca you you took some time to uh look back at these right i took some time to surf the internet and scour what the world predicted for 2021 and there were some funny ones. There were some, sadly, way too on-the-nose ones. But looking back, we have the French philosopher Notre-Dame, who is, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:16 known for being eerily correct on a lot of things. But obviously, he died in 1566, so we can only take his predictions with a grain of salt. But his predictions last year for the year 2021 was a global famine, which, you know, I won't say was incorrect. I feel like we've gotten a lot of news about the rise of food deserts, especially with the, I think, heightened issues of poverty caused by the pandemic of, you know, lack of income and, you know, homelessness, you know, rising and lots of other things. So that's not a crazy one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 He also predicted solar storms and asteroids. And, you know, like global warming is coming for us. So I'm not that hip to the solar system and and global warming but i'm sure it's not crazy i'm sure it's not out of the realm of possibility that that will come at some point you're giving flexibility here like you know he didn't conceive of global warming so i guess we can put a maybe solar storm was the heat wave that just rocked the fucking Earth over the summer. Miles, what is heating the Earth when we talk about climate change? The sun.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Solar. And then what are we getting a lot more of because of that? Storms. Storms. Thank you. Solar. Storms. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Okay. That's right. Okay. And asteroids. Who's probably talking about like. Talking about my hemorrhoids I got on my ass. Probably. Very specific. Yo, he was spot on with those asteroids am i right those are hemorrhoids right okay going on sorry uh he also predicted an earthquake uh from the article i pulled from which was the new yorker article or actually it was a new york post article um they specifically said california
Starting point is 00:14:03 uh surprisingly that did not happen but fires have come for california so you know yeah an earthquake of all the footsteps of people leaving california for texas exactly even though that's the capital of the country right now right crazy because the minimum wage hasn't raised there i mean not that it hasn't raised across the country but the minimum wage in texas is like 750 so bananas right and then a zombie apocalypse january 6th you know yeah okay actually naz i give that to you naz nashradama we'll give you that one some nasty predictions yeah but we got some more realistic ones from actual people who live on this earth today. So globally, there were some predictions like COVID vaccine rollouts. Some people predicted that people would take the vaccines.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Maybe there wouldn't be as much of a fight about vaccines and that there would be a more efficient rollout system. That was definitely wrong. We're still dealing with that. Yeah, I saw that in a couple of places I looked too, like people being like, the pandemic's over by October in rich countries because global capitalism works and we all live in a rich place,
Starting point is 00:15:18 but those poor, they're going to have a tough one. And it's like, do you not know how globalism works and global pandemics work um but that was from the week yeah especially when you can't get anybody to take the vaccines and that's been the harder part right right the rollout so uh there's also been predictions that there will be no improvement in tolerance and equal treatment of others while loneliness concerns will grow which i feel like kind of accurate yeah yeah kind of like um jack you were saying earlier of i think that conversation of like let's just go back to normal and not that the administration's done a good job at that i think people have highlighted how poorly the administration's done at getting anything done this year right Right. But more just I think the conversations we were having in 2020 about activism definitely slowed in news coverage.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Once Biden became elected, you just weren't seeing as much protest coverage. You weren't seeing as much conversations about like shootings happening, even though they were still happening. Right. So I do think that was pretty oh yeah that one that was dead on no improvement in tolerance i mean like yeah and way make they were wrong because in a way maybe i think we we fucking regressed right uh because i mean jesus you saw that energy in 2020 like oh my god we're here to bring things to a more equitable place cut to and play i feel like most people are like, yeah, man, my job said they were doing this,
Starting point is 00:16:48 that, and the other. It's like, they haven't done nothing since. Well, I think that's the power of the media really forcing us back into the status quo idea of how things should be. Of like, no, no, no, everything's cool again. Right. You see it on all sorts of media.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You see it on The Bachelor, Bachelorette, how they really like, they're like, no, no, no, no, no. Everything's cool again. Like everything. They really try and push you back into that mindset of like, OK, calm down, calm down. Biden's in office. Right. And people really buy it.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And it works. It really works. And you just sit there being like, wait, but like people are dying. No, no. But they're not you right now. See. And also, wouldn't you love a new electric toothbrush from Oral-B? Yeah. wait but like people are dying no no but they're not you right now see and also wouldn't you love a new electric toothbrush from oral b yeah no it feels too weird on my teeth
Starting point is 00:17:32 oh okay well how about sonicare i really just don't like electric toothbrushes okay that's fine that's fine offline always i'm not trying to get hacked trying to have my toothbrush fucking well you know now that my quip is telling me I'm a loser for not brushing enough. It's just, it works. It works great. They're like, hey, halitosis mouth. When you pick up the damn toothbrush, you're like, whoa, what the fuck? It just texts.
Starting point is 00:17:55 My quip just texted me. Yeah. Oh, you in bed already? Where are you at? And you didn't brush your teeth? Crazy. I mean, that's where it's going. And that's why we need the giant wave.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I'm going to hold my quip and my cell phone. Yeah, I know. God damn it, Miles. Let go. I'm actually going to knock it out of my hands. I'm actually getting very concerned about the giant wave because you were so dead on on a couple of things last year. I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You also predicted laser eyes. So maybe I don't need to be so concerned i don't know is it people being like wired in you know no no i think it's straight up so if you are actually able to fart and sneeze at the same time you actually access another level reality yes you unlock and you move further into the dimension and grow laser eyes. Kind of like that woke hotep meme where they got the fucking red laser
Starting point is 00:18:51 eyes and shit. Yeah, when you get based. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think another fun prediction, this one was my favorite wild take. Vox's 2021 predictions, they had a ton, but my favorite one was that Trump will uneventfully leave office on january 20th and that was very much not true if you remember this article was released january 5th
Starting point is 00:19:14 uh 2021 one day before the insurrection uh they mentioned that there is likely to be some drama and potentially even violent street protests on january 6th when the electoral college vote is read before congress but that too is nearly certain to be political theater that can't overturn the legal election results true did not overturn the legal election results but it was definitely way more than some political theater yeah right wow if only it were like some astroturfing you know coke funded nonsense but no no no no facebook though stage left from the capital yeah facebook they got the they should get the organizer of the year award for putting that whole shit together wow facebook we love it but would you you would you be able to organize people collectively to push for lower prescription drug prices?
Starting point is 00:20:07 I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. Shut up, man. I think we recorded our predictions, one, like mid-December, and we were like, the violent right is probably going to do
Starting point is 00:20:21 the things that they've been saying they're going to do, which they were already talking about violently. is probably going to do the things that they've been saying they're gonna do uh which like they they were already talking about right uh you know like there's yeah like it's being telegraphed because that period in between we saw how wild the stop the steal stuff was getting and how was it ali alexander really that one tweet is like i'll die for this was like when people were like okay even though he's playing you know a part to try and get people in a frenzy that is that that rhetoric was taken up so quick you're like all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about more ways everyone is wrong. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Starting point is 00:25:38 progressives mad they're gonna be so angry at how much these guys get done because they're right we are i've i mean i i am mad you're right because they've done nothing i haven't done shit for the opposite reasons what i was surprised i didn't see any predictions were about specifically student loans like i was hoping to see somebody say something about the student loans and their failure or like they were gonna be like no biden's definitely gonna pay the student loans and their failure or like they were going to be like no biden's definitely gonna pay these student loans but i saw nothing either way he didn't and i'm still very upset about it i think people know the power of banking and how much they donate to both parties they're like they're not gonna fuck with the banks or like those debt
Starting point is 00:26:19 people who own that debt like that's just come on now we can delay it but yeah it did seem like there was a uh overall like ah we're just gonna go back to the clinton years here or at least the obama years like everything's gonna be kind of easier sailing yeah people yeah and i think that's the other again and i think going into 2022 23 politicians are dealing with an electorate that is so much more like they're just they know more stuff not to say that so many people are now like have become wonks but enough people are aware of things that affect their lives just on like more of a general level that like they're not able to just you know they're not slick they're not doing anything low anymore like you're just like oh no we see we actually see all of this right um and before that like to those you know
Starting point is 00:27:16 those golden times you're referring to like with clinton who deregulated wall street you know like the economy was good enough for like enough people that they weren't looking to the government to like explain what was going on but that momentum like we've completely we've rewrote that momentum to its end now and the shit has basically stopped and now people are wondering like what is this because you can't just say stuff anymore and i believe it we have some other more fun predictions you, those were all our big news hitter ones, but we got some food ones and some fashion ones. Okay, I like food.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Well, I like fashion too. Can't do it well. Food and fashion. The takeout had some quick 2021 food trends. They predicted, most importantly, that people will start creating their own fancier condiments at home. And I think if you've been on TikTok, that's definitely true. There are so many little quick TikTok recipes of being like,
Starting point is 00:28:10 how to make your favorite fry sauce at home. Or like real, I saw one that I saved personally. It's like make the best buttermilk ranch or whatever, like without all the preservatives. Right. So I do think that has been a very true prediction. And then they also said to expect to see more plant-based items, like vegan proteins making their ways,
Starting point is 00:28:32 not only just meat and egg substitute, but dairy as well. I definitely think that has been a trend in the fast food. You've seen a lot of places put staples of Impossible Meats on their menus. I'm definitely seeing a lot more of the food boxes, like the at-home meal kits that are vegan-focused or vegetarian-focused. I personally have moved plant-based, so I definitely think, well, flexitarian. If I eat out, I'll eat some meat, but I don't cook meat anymore at home. Good for you. I definitely think there has been quite a shift people are realizing how much that stuff not only affects the environment but their day-to-day health and how even just like cutting
Starting point is 00:29:15 out a little bit of cheese as someone who loves cheese will affect um you know your diet okay no i'm actually i gotta add another thing the wave will not knock out my phone, my quip toothbrush, or my block of cheese. That wave is not getting my cheese. Just your solid block that you're biting into every day. I'm just eating like this. I'm like, what do you think that is? It's just a fucking wave, right? Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's just bullshit. It's cap. You need to really be thinking about how you are becoming shark bait so quick. Okay? You need to be careful out there in that wave miles i know whatever cheese and i know jack's like wait shark attack he's like where's that way about i'm trying to get right on my body get excited there you go pal there's something for you but you know that prediction about the plant-based meat is true
Starting point is 00:30:01 because on some of the year-end wrap like roundups from like doordash or like uh the food delivery sites they said like one of the most popular items this year were vegan burgers okay so that truly that helped so shout out the takeout for i guess something they could see in the economic graphs or whatever but yeah true true like i feel like some of the fast food sandwiches were last year right we're like already happening like the yeah they were starting to burger king i think released there's impossible whopper yeah 2019 i think they even did that um but i think more places were on stand i think maybe mcdonald's this year released vegan meat on their menu. I know back in 2019, KFC did like a trial run with the vegan nuggets. Oh, right, right. I don't think that's a staple food menu item yet.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Oh, yeah. But definitely, I think even more, like Miles was saying, in takeout, there's just been more people ordering vegan options, not just fast, fast food, but from their restaurants and things like that. Yeah. They really haven't figured out the vegan chicken i feel like am i wrong about that i well okay i do think um there's this one brand what is it called nugs their vegan chicken nuggets are okay but they are now in stores originally you can only buy them online and they would like deliver to you in a block of dry ice and it was kind of expensive It's okay, but they are now in stores. Originally, you can only buy them online, and they would deliver to you in a block of dry ice,
Starting point is 00:31:27 and it was kind of expensive and not worth it at that point because they gave you like, you had to order like 50 nugs, and now you can order like a 12-pack at the grocery store, which is way more reasonable. But the regular nuggets are okay. They're a little dry, but their spicy nugs, I will say, that flavor is on point. That's a classic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:50 The classic's a little dry, okay. But the spicy ones, I think, are better. And the closest I've found, I think, to a chicken substitute, I'm not a big fan of a lot of the vegan meats personally, especially as someone who has a soy allergy like it just makes my stomach hurt so a lot of the vegan meats are soy base yeah but there's like this i think it's morning star they have like um this vegan chorizo and that is really good because it's not soy reso which i think like trina joe's has soy reso i'm not a fan of the soy
Starting point is 00:32:24 reso but whatever morning stars vegan chorizo is i used it in some vegan empanadas i made and it was okay good um i we maybe i should have said up top but we are not doing predictions for next year in this episode we are going to be doing those uh in the first episode of the year 2022 um when they will already be at least wrong by one day um so uh look out for our predictions then but this is where we just look back and laugh at people for being wrong sorry i should have said that up top not bad people like these aren't predictions for next year what's going on with them do they know yes we know we know um this the new york times food trends there were a couple that really stuck
Starting point is 00:33:12 out to me first one was drinks from cans becoming a thing and i'm like sure um don't we do that i've been drinking out of cans but i i think we have but in general like that canned cocktail thing i feel like it has exploded you know what i mean because like now all these like spirit brands are hopping in the you know they're trying to do battle with the seltzers so it's um yeah it's i i felt that that one was somewhat on point. And the one that I was more curious about, and I'm trying to get everyone's take on this, is they predicted food for the bedroom. Like balls of pretzels? No, if you click on the article, it was too much to type out. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah, no worries. The food for the bedroom was specifically like those CBDbd kind of drinks like the drinks that are specifically designed to help you sleep or relax like all those infused drinks drinks from a can so like the brand recess i think is like one to think about you're saying you said the brand can is that what you're saying the brand can yeah no there is there is a there's a yeah there is a brand can i was like okay jack okay and then i think yeah but yeah that's what they meant they meant like drinks that like instead of drinks that are supposed to be like energizing drinks like new you know monster drinks or whatever oh right drink a sedative yeah they're like more sedatives but not alcoholic sedatives right right right
Starting point is 00:34:41 you know i do like that they had one good prediction and they stretched it over two with drinks from cans and food for the bedroom which are drinks from cans that will help you chill out i thought it'd be like crumbless foods yeah exactly no i clicked through and i was like why did you make this a separate point like that needs to they somebody needs to work on that shit because i have cracker crumbs in my bed and I cannot deal with that I love eating in my bed me too I'm a little rat who eats in the bed
Starting point is 00:35:13 and I have developed techniques and tactics because I regularly get screamed at are you fucking eating chips are you fucking serious but I'm like no no no I do the thing I hold the chip over my mouth no biting because when you bite it fucking eating chips and are you fucking serious but i'm like no no i do the thing i hold the chip over my mouth no biting because when you bite it you create the crumbs so you got to get a whole
Starting point is 00:35:31 hand technique no no no no it's right under the no chance right or if it's like a very buttery cracker kind of thing that gets very crummy after the first bite you gotta bite it and then you gotta lick off the crumbs from the edge of the bit part of the cracker to make sure you're getting loose crumbs it's like you're cleaning up a murder scene yes you gotta start dusting for the crumbs i'm look i'm just somebody who refuses to change their way so if i have to adapt and like eat nine minutes longer and do that to be able to do it crumb free then i'll do it so anna to your point yes i would like crumb free bread food yeah me too the only thing i eat in bed is ice cream that's all i can do the rest
Starting point is 00:36:11 of it i'm gonna sit on the couch and finish before i go to bed when i wake up in the morning i feel like i've been rolled in bread crumbs like an about to be fried chicken my wife lacks your discipline when it comes to the cracker edges and shit like that. Oh, here she comes. Watch out, Jack. She's eating food. Oh, here she comes. She's a bad eater.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Oh, here she crumbs. Hey, there we go. It takes a village to write these jokes. She crumbs full. Inside a hall of notes. takes a village to write these jokes she crumbs full inside all the notes oh here she crumbs it's what the fuck it should be oh here she comes dude all right all right alll hall i mean this i don't want to exclusively pick on the new york times here but number two is drinks from cans number one is meal kits from chefs which like that's been a thing for a long time did that take off I can't point to a meal kit from a chef right now. Yeah, I don't think I've seen one specifically
Starting point is 00:37:26 from a chef. I've seen Bobby Flay make cat food. Or it's like a very New York Times thing where it's like, I know this chef from Balthazar.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Absolutely. And he's putting together a meal kit that's like so great. It's like for $400, you get one meal for three people. And you're like like i have seen that
Starting point is 00:37:46 yeah that's that's what i feel like maybe that's what they're doing because that feels very nyc yeah i feel like they're like if you looked at the profession makeup of new york times writers friends it would be like chef 45 like famous chef, 10% Somalia. And then like Somalia lawyer, rare bookseller, dermatologist, but, but all their medical takes come from a dermatologist that they know.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And it's like, well, there's other, okay, whatever. It's like, well, they're a doctor and, and also finance bros for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You got to have finance bros. Drinks from cans, which I've, I've been doing since uh brave i was a child vegetables of the year take your pick okay come on vegetables they were like all vegetables usually a vegetable of the year but this year people are going more plant-based so pick a vegetable that's your favorite and then when they finally take their big swing where they get real specific,
Starting point is 00:38:46 they're like, all right, motherfuckers, you ready? Roll up their sleeves. Flavor of the year. Basque burnt cheesecake. Wild. A wild choice. Get ready to not be able to escape Basque burnt cheesecake. Especially because cheesecake isn't the easiest thing to make.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Take it from someone who's tried to make a cheesecake multiple times. And maybe I'm just challenged, but I've yet to successfully make. They could have said cheesecake as a flavor, but they weren't so specific. What's Basque burnt? Exactly. Well, you would think you would know by now, Anna. It is the flavor of the year. Why are you yelling at me?
Starting point is 00:39:25 He's taking out his anger that the NYc didn't do their best with these predictions i don't know what that is it says a crustless cheesecake baked in a very hot oven so the top caramelizes but the inside remains soft and jiggly came out of san sebastian spain in the 1990s some elite american chefs started making versions and two years ago it slipped into more mainstream food culture where where i don't know mainstream is if if cheesecake factory had a burnt basque cheesecake then yes hats off to you but i haven't seen it it's mainstream but like when i'm looking at it like I'm looking at like a Japanese recipe website, like Serious Eats, which, OK, like I get Serious Eats is a destination for that. But like I don't see it as like a we're not seeing the proliferation of it being offered as a standard dessert option.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Absolutely not. Yeah. No, it I'm not seeing it. I don't get it. Someone who's a connoisseur of cheesecake. It's definitely not my go-to right i mean that's just on you the new york times is right the world was wrong in 2021 um all right and finally let's talk fashion real quick uh style caster you would think they would know since they cast styles they cast it like it's a fishing line um and they they had some hot takes they had some hot takes i don't feel like anything they said was wrong by any means their first suggestion was eyesore prints i thought that was a little rude
Starting point is 00:40:57 uh i like a loud print you know i think they're fun i don't wear a lot of them but i enjoy it when people take the leap to do it and i do feel like tiktok really loved a loud print this year i saw a lot of checkerboard i saw a lot of floral but not like like grandma's curtains yeah not devil's product floral for spring groundbreaking but more like bright daisies kind of thing like chunky like yeah very like 90s right yeah like floral loose layers was their second pick which i feel like yeah that oversized look is like very in right now i can't get into that uh unique bags which i think was a silly way to put that but uh they said not like the other girls bags what's a unique bag? Yeah, what is that? Like a Tesco shopping bag?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, I think having a bag that isn't like trendy. I guess like something that you found like super unique, vintage, like weird, like loud. Not something that is reasonable. Like not something that's going to go with everything. Like you have a bag per outfit. Statement bag. Guilty. They nailed me. They said textures and shears which is very true i do think textures and shears were big this year um a lot of like sheer tops with like bralette kind of situation oh yeah oh yeah that's sparkly sheer
Starting point is 00:42:19 and then they said chunky boots and loafers, not heels of the year. Like you want a comfortable style shoes. I'm not a big loafer fan personally, but I do love a boot. We definitely went chunky this year. I feel like I've seen a lot of chunk in those heels. Oh, chunkers. Oh, yeah. The footwear? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's nonstop chunkers. And oh my gosh, the other day when I was at the Americana, I saw somebody, their shoe too chunky. Couldn't walk on it. They had a misstep on a big old chunky sneaker and I went. Were they tall? Like they were platforms too? Yeah, they were chunky ass. Like they almost, they were like so chunky to make up like a fashion statement
Starting point is 00:43:00 that in a way like it was like, it was karmic that you're like, and you couldn't even transition from concrete to grass part of me feels like there was something gen z was born with that taught them how to walk in these chunky shoes because i'm trip central trip trip central i'm trip central when i try and walk with chunky chunky soles what are the bottoms yeah chunky yeah chunky soles yeah i think so i personally i am a short person i'm very short i like a platform sometimes but i can't walk on a flat platform i was grown in the south so i'm like all about a heel i feel like i'm gonna tip over like if i'm like walk because if i'm just like four inches, just like floating, I'm like, I'm gonna fall.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Like at least like a heel, your toes are like on the ground so you can like feel the ground. But when you're on a platform, you're just like four inches taller than you're supposed to be. Cause then you have to adjust your, your gait and your stride and picking your feet up because with that chunky ass sole, like your toe will scrape down and then you're like you like this person at the americana shout out to them shout out to them going for it for really you know doing it for the fashion doing it for the gram you know i think we're back like joel was saying earlier uh on a different recording we had today you know everyone's flexing for the gram again like they are they know when they step outside no one's
Starting point is 00:44:25 gonna see that look so you have to take a picture and have to live somewhere because we're in the house all day yeah um and then the last big prediction was a high low mix meaning like high fashion pieces with low fashion pieces so like sporting like a h&m coat with like a designer chanel bag or like you know just really expensive and then really cheap right you've got a dior coat on with the old family reunion t-shirt underneath that you thrifted yeah i see yeah i see that everywhere that feels like very la yeah too tuxedo up top and then sweatpants on the bottom well jack i just said that's just a weird look not you're like hi lo dude all right like the high is up high the low is down low right when you were like when you were that crop top and like and like uh daisy duke shorts you're like high up here
Starting point is 00:45:17 and then low down here i'm like jack okay not what it means y2k is back people did predict that um but i felt like that was way too self-explanatory and way too on the nose because y2k has come back in full force in 2021 and i'm not happy about it personally um i'm scarred from those years of my life i was an ugly middle schooler and low-rise jeans don't look good on curvy girls so i'm not happy that they're back but can't have hips when you have uh when you wear low rise jeans you cannot have hips if you have low rise jeans we all remember i feel like no one's talking about like that scary muffin top we were so afraid of having like that i don't want to be like a choogy millennial talking about it but that was like horrible all you were worried about was
Starting point is 00:46:05 that muffin top and now people are like no this is cool this is cool i'm like i got my lei jeans out of storage i'm ready by the way that was the first and most seamless uh you know straightforward use of choogy by uh somebody on our show and it means a lot to me it makes me feel uh relevant and also i appreciate you realize i don't know what it means a lot to me. It makes me feel relevant. And also, I appreciate it. It makes you realize, I don't know what it means. Oh, come on, man. You know we're all... Something I saw that was very much like,
Starting point is 00:46:33 only white millennial women use this word. And I do believe that. It's like, we as the POC community, we're like, that is for them and it is not for us. That is an argument they're having. Yeah, there's always... That's what's what's funny yeah there's always words to describe someone who's like out of touch now or older and you know trying to recapture their their glory but you know shout out all the chugs out there you know we see you god what is who was wearing the low-cut jeans where they cut the entire back off so it's wasn't it
Starting point is 00:47:07 oh yeah pink right from our we had a live show where we look back at the fashions of like the early aughts and pink is rocking like there's no back to her pocket and it's just like the diy chaps yeah yeah but like no waste. No waste. And so it's just like you don't even know how it's staying up. Like it has to have been glued to her pelvis. No, I think there were clear straps that we couldn't see. Oh, animate. I thought they were just being held up by her abs.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Are you kidding? Why don't you guys try watching some project runway? The pop women, pop girlies of the early 2000s abs was insane that's how you ruin crouching tiger for me too there's invisible straps that hold them holding them up they're not flying no oh wait till we tell them about the matrix you liars uh i ruined a lot of screenings of that by screaming like that look guys it's been a long year uh and i said on last year's episode uh where we did predictions uh that this would be the last you heard of me and uh say it again uh this is it for my podcast career uh it's been fun all right well thank you guys so much for uh coming on to talk about all the ways experts are idiots and we are smarter than them.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Thank you. Becca, where can people find you and follow you? Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Bex Ramos, B-E-C-C-S, R-A-M-O-S. It's considerably hard for people to realize us on A, but you know. Yeah. And also on Twitter as Bex Ramos as as well but i'm not active on twitter so if you want to see me uh do activism work or be at a bookstore follow me on instagram there it is there it is super producer anna hosnier where can people find you follow you i'm just at anna
Starting point is 00:48:59 hosnier on twitter wow all right and you guys know where to find miles and i Snee on Twitter. Wow. Alright. And you guys know where to find Miles and I. That wave won't separate me from my phone. Oh. Now imagine a wave and then my hands coming at you. I'm trying to get your stuff out of your hands. Alright.
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