The Daily Zeitgeist - Mall American, Flip A Rescue 8.7.19

Episode Date: August 7, 2019

In episode 449, Miles and special guest host Billy Wayne Davis are joined by comedian Caitlin Gill to discuss the future of mall locations, the bad New York Times headline regarding Trump and the mass shootings from the weekend, Republicans going extinct in the suburbs, Aaron Carter catching heat for possibly flipping rescue dogs for profit, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. The Future Of The Mall Might Be On Your College Campus2. ‘The headline was bad’: New York Times amends front page on Trump’s response to mass shootings after backlash3. Republicans Fear ‘Extinction in the Suburbs’ Over Gun Control4. Nebraska GOP tells Republican lawmaker who said party is 'enabling white supremacy' to register as Democrat5. Aaron Carter denies flipping rescue dogs for profit: 'Don’t try to slander my name'6. WATCH: Bugseed - Chapter Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Oh, well, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 94, Episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. And look, this is a podcast we do every day where we take a bone saw, cut open the top of America's skull, look in there, look at the brain, look at the soul, and then say off the rip fuck coke

industries and fuck fox news aka the new nra actually if you listen to half the talking points they have uh it's wednesday august 7th 2019 my name is miles gray uh aka the tuscan toker and i would like to thank paul gara venta for that short aka i know it wasn't a full-on holland oath song but you know that speaks to my heart uh when i talk about it and I won't get into Tuscany quite yet maybe later uh and also I just want to mention uh rest in peace to Toni Morrison a great author um and she will be very missed she was 88 years old if you are not familiar with Toni Morrison's work uh go go try it go try it out go if you haven't read Beloved, read it. Great stream of consciousness, right? Um, anyway, let's get to the guest host.

Cause as you know, daddy's gone. So the sub is bringing in his weird friends that he works on weird trucks without back. And his first guest co-host today is none other than one of the faces on Mount Zeitmore. Welcome Billy Wayne Davis. Hey guys. It's good to be here. I like the Tustin toker. Thank you.

I can be your midnight toker. All right. And you can be the, what, Tennessee toker? Ooh, I like that, too. I was the Tennessee toker. A lot of alliterative AKAs. And we are thrilled to be joined by another legend of the show. Frequent guest, but not frequent enough.

I may say, myself, please welcome the hilariously talented, and just overall, you know, I've actually learned a lot of things about how you interact with your dog that I've taken on with my dog. Amazing dog parent, Caitlin Gill. That's me. Caitlin Guilty, pleasure. You know, I used to be like, when my dog would bark, I'd be like, hey, come on now, come on. And I saw you one time talk to be like when my dog would bark I'd be like hey come on now

come on and I saw you one time talk to your dog where you say I know what you're doing I said I get you want to protect I see

and you were understanding and I was I created a debate between my animal and I picked that up from you I just want to tell you I picked that up

I like it it's a method I use now well thank you I always tell her she's not crazy she's just wrong she's right there is a noise yeah there is right exactly I always tell her she's not crazy. She's just wrong. She's right.

There is a noise. Yeah, there is. Right. Exactly. But she is wrong. She does not need to worry about it. There's no danger. Right. I'm like, we're all good.

That's what I said. I'm like, thank you. You did your purpose, but you know what? You did the thing. We're good. Thank you. But also, shut up. Yeah.

Thanks. Also, yeah. It's very jarring when I'm smoking weed and watching 90 Day Fiance when you're barking all the time. And yes, we're talking to major hot lips who are barking all the time. And it's that thing of not recognizing your dog. Recognizing the breed. Yeah. And LA is, I think, the mecca of not recognizing dog breeds.

Oh, man. There are so many huskies wandering around the city just like, how did I get here? I need to run so much. It's so hot here. Or beagles. Oh, like how to take care of your dog. No, they get the dog because they like the way they look.

Right, right, right. And then they're like, why is this beagle so loud in this house? And you're like, because it needs to be chasing animals in the woods, letting you know where it's at. Right. That's why it's loud. So you can go shoot the thing it found. It shouldn't be in an apartment on Kahuanga.

Yeah. Ooh. Respect to the pronunciation. Thank you't be an apartment on Kohanga. Yeah. Ooh. Respect to the pronunciation. Thank you. Kohanga. Thank you. Anyway, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you even better, but let's preview a little bit about what we're going to be talking about.

Just talking about college campuses are the new malls. You know what I mean? We're already broke when we leave college campuses, so why not throw more money away while you're there? Just trying to educate yourself to compete in this modern workplace when it's all an illusion anyway but look that's a whole other podcast um also we're gonna just take a second to tell the new york times come the fuck on what is going on on your front page do you not do you not read the world events anyway that's a whole other part then just a discussion on the gop and their inability to

recognize that something isn't working and trying to fix it it's more just like oh there's a wall let's hit the accelerator harder and then maybe we'll break it down rather than just destroying the car we're in so i can learn from the democrats and it is an impressive lesson to learn yeah but uh different problems exactly same symptoms yeah democrats like oh god should we change that and then it's like oh i don't know i'm uncomfortable maybe they don't want to change as much as they're telling us they want to change right i mean i didn't think there's anything wrong to begin with but i guess i can hear your point here um and then it's just loud that it's both sides in power just it's people that don't want to lose

their power yeah absolutely it's done different ways it's just the same thing it's like well i keep pushing this button and i keep getting to do what i want to do and it was on both sides yeah luckily now i guess the lack of empathy is starting to affect the republican side of the equation maybe maybe not because who knows it is a constantly evolving hellscape well i think it's the thing with the Republican. My thing is like their whole thing is fucking over their own people. Right. So you can only do

that for so long before the people are like, oh, you before they realize they got fucked. Yeah. And we'll get into shelf life.

Many people are being fucked right now by this administration. And then there's a new podcast out talking about Jared and Ivanka it's

called tabloid the making of ivanka trump um but there's a lot of interesting uh interviews in it and a lot of information so hard i broke my jaw i don't know what happened you're speaking actually your pronunciation is amazing for having an unhinged jaw yeah it's tough and i can't see because my eyes just rolled back so far in my head that I can only see my own brain and it's just screaming. As from the D12 song Purple Hills or Purple Pills, you want to roll away like a roller blade till your eyes roll back and your skull for days. Yes. Yeah, correct. Rest in peace to Proof, who I believe said that rhyme.

So anyway, in this thing, it's a lot of no shit stuff, but it's just kind of interesting. There's always things you can observe and say, of course, that's what's happening. And then when you start hearing interviews that back it up, you're like, of course it was happening. And then also, you know, we didn't get to this yesterday, but I do want to talk, you know, there are many animals in here that have been rescued. And Aaron Carter, he was in a little bit of hot water because people think he's flipping dogs that he rescues. It's very petty, but I just want to discuss it. And also, yo, avocados are so expensive, some places are thinning out their guac with another ingredient. And I just want people to be aware of what's going on because these are the end days.

Okay? I know. Well, maybe it was, right? because these are the end days. Okay? I know. Well, maybe it was, right? Unless it's like you're at El Torito Grill or Cantina,

where they'll make it right there, table size. I think capitalism is making it. Capitalism is thinning out our guac. I think it is. So, off the top, Caitlin, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, geez. I did...

Oh, man. I have looked up so much about what dogs can and should eat. Oh, yeah. This dog eats a whole lot of – she eats – she wants a varied diet, so anything you get, she just stops eating after about the third feeding. Oh, really? Like any pet food? Yes.

So my search history is basically like, will my dog like this dog food, and where can I donate this dog food my dog didn't like? You can't even, because you rotate. Like once she doesn't like another one, you're like, oh, I got that one for three months ago. Oh, there's no other option. But could it have been, if you just keep leaving the same food there, she would eat it eventually? Right, that's what the vets say, right? There is the starve them out strategy, yes.

But you're too soft for that? I am too soft for that. It also just stops working where she'll win. You think she'll just perish? She'll wither away and be like, I'm sorry you did this to me. But does she win? Because she dies. No, she wouldn't die.

She'd just eat. She would never stop bitching. She would never give in. There'd be a lot of barking and slapping the bowl. She'd eat it, but it would be with protest. And that's not how I, I just don't. I'm too soft. Yeah, right, right.

Okay, I think that's the, yeah, more than like, you could still just be like, you can bitch, but this is what we're eating. It's like you're just like a single mother. It's true. And things have really went off the rail. And thinking of myself as a child and the stubborn fits I put up,

like when I didn't want to eat a food. She learned it from watching me, but I don't know how she wasn't there then. But she did. The other thing I guess is kind of revealing is that I do have saved in my phone an embryo comparison chart just because of the number of times I have discussed the fact that all embryos of all creatures look pretty much the same at some stage of development and felt the need to prove it by showing people in chart form. And so what kind of conversation was this born out of? Oh, man.

It's always like, you know, just high enough to get into my, you know, theories that seem to matter at the time. Right, right. Or like, you know, it feels like enough of a mind-blowing fact. Right. Oh, that we're all one and connected? Yeah, there's that. But it's always some discussion about animals and how alike to animals we are. And we're so alike to animals that we're exactly the same at early stages in our development.

But I agree with that. But I think for humans, we're so much like animals because we're all mimics. As a species, we just look at other things and copy them so well. That's where we've developed a lot of our, because I just think we're aliens. I think everything's, this is usually how the conversation, this answers your question, is the conversation gets started like that.

I think we're aliens. What do you think, Caitlin? We're just sacks of meat that carry around the 40 germ cells that determine what, there's 40 germ cells that basically determine what your junk is going to be, which to me matters because that's setting up to make the next generation. And those are viral germ cells. They are not of us. They are not of here. Oh, yeah.

And we are the meat sacks that carry them around. Yes. I remember this. Yeah. It's – I probably – this is how it comes up enough, but it is what was the podcast again it's radio labs gonads series that's the first episode in it um but yeah the the embryo comparison chart is some evidence to just like oh there's a bunch of germs that just recreate sacks to live in is that everything that's what we're here yeah that's how many different species am i looking at across the? Across the top is fish, salamander, tortoise, chicken, pig, cow, rabbit, and human.

And they are essentially just all exactly the same. Oh, man. We're all just weird seahorses with a chihuahua head. It's a little H.R. Giger alien twist. It's kind of, yeah. It looks a bit like a chestburster. Yeah. And if you break it down even smaller, we're like these little tiny cells and atoms that

are carbon-based and shit. We want to go really far. We ain't from here. Yeah. It's the same fucking thing. We are sex that carry around the stuff that ain't from here. But I think they live here. But I think like the,

where the like human, and we love to personify animals a lot too. I think that, I mean, there's some comedians that's their whole thing is just personifying an animal. Uh, which I think is fucking funny as shit. Wait, are there people still doing bits like personifying an animal. Oh, I'll still laugh at Jim Brewer's goat boy.

It's fucking funny as shit. Wait, are there people still doing bits like that? Oh, yeah. Oh. Is someone doing a 2019 goat boy? I mean, I heard one last night. Yeah, I'm sure. I looked like a bird.

And you'd laugh at the dumb bird. What have I done? A couple, I'm sure. I mean, most of Gaffigan's stuff, and I love Gaffigan, is personifying things that don't have a personality. That's what he does. Not to break it down, but he's genius.

It's very funny the way he does it. But that's, I think, that's... That comes from that. We're all connected. And I think also, we have an overwhelmingly amount of similar genetic material in common with most animals anyway, where it's like, it only varies at these very specific points. Anyway, so we're all one, and we're all on Molly right now.

And I will show you on my phone with very little provocation. In fact, I have the tab open ready to show you how alike we are. I guess that's sort of revealing. Yeah, but that's a good place to come from. What's something that's overrated? Heartless nostalgia. I'm so weirded out by the... I mean, I myself am wearing throwback Reeboks currently.

I have an old-timey diner shirt on. Like, I get it. Well, Cantor's Deli gets respect in this office. Yes, Cantor's Deli should get... It's not a throwback. It's still going on. It's still... I mean, these sneakers are coming around again.

Yes. These are replicated 80s sneakers. Your sneaker's more accurate than the shirt. The shirt, yes. Because the shirt's still kind mean these sneakers are coming around again yes these are replicated your sneakers more accurate than the shirt the shirt yes because the shirt's still kind of the same fucking place it's always been but exactly so so i suppose that's true it's not throwing back to anything i just mean like having movie theaters have exactly the same titles as in 1993 the like predatory nostalgia where it's just like oh you're 35 plus now so things from 20 years ago are now in a market that you can buy again so we're gonna sell you trapper keepers yeah right and shit you couldn't afford we're gonna have spending power t-shirts exactly and sugar ray

and all this band is gonna tour on this big tour yeah it hurts my brain sugar ray is what it's like when they like putting salt and pepper with all those 90s. Is that a tour that's happening? When they tried to do Lil Wayne and Blink-182. That did not go well. Yeah, exactly. Because it's not true. It's not true feeling.

It's like a horrible. Yeah, it was a pure cash grab. It's like, I think we can turn out enough people if we put Blink-182 and Lil Wayne on the same bill. Yes. Both bands play guitar equally as well. Maybe it makes sense. And they like skateboarding for some reason.

That's the only thing I could tie in to them being together. I was like, skateboard? I don't know. He almost quit the third show. Yes. Because he was like, I've never seen a crowd like this. Huge mistake. He was like, this is not my crowd. Uh-oh. And he's such an artist, he just said it.

I think that's the thing. It's like, Lil Wayne is an artist, where it's like as soon as he felt that it was in front of 20,000 people, he's like, this is a bad idea. I'm sorry, you guys. And then the next day, someone showed him the numbers. He's like, hey, we're still gonna do it.

Hey, man, you know, I had a rough night, but I'm back, baby. Wheezy F baby is in the building. For another week or so. Yeah. Before I leave the building again. Yeah, until I really realized that cash can't fill every void in my soul. Well, it's what, I understand exactly what you're saying. It's frustrating because it's, Stuart Lee, do you know that comedian from the UK?

Yeah, yes. He's brilliant. He has this little small part About He's like I like finding records Old records I like The Hunt

And people are like Well you can go online And find this one He's like That's not what That's not the point Yeah But it's

That's what they're doing Yes Is they're They're madmening That feeling Of finding something In an antique store Or at a flea market

Where you're like Oh that He-Man Oh that makes me think of when I was two or something. Definitely. And instead of just like they're manufacturing that feeling for us. There's that packaged feeling, most certainly. There's also like watching Aladdin, The Lion King, and all these Disney movies come out and not make a splash is this other thing where like what you liked was good enough

and you don't have to try to like anything else. Forget going to one of the movies to see an original story. Go see this same thing, but just a little tiny touch different. Well, they know that people will. But they did make money, though, in all fairness. They did make a splash. The whole thing has always been manipulation. Whether or not Disney made money, yeah, but yes,

Disney, all entertainment is manipulation. Not all nostalgia is bad. But when nostalgia is only manipulative, that's bad. No, I agree. But I think Disney's thing

is like, even before the Lion King stuff, they were not, they would put Cinderella, the cartoon, on the shelf for 20 years and then bring it out again on VHS or then let it sit for, you know, put it out for six months. Finally, it's back.

We can buy it. Finally. That is manufactured entertainment and true nostalgia. That's what they're doing. What's the thing you've been suckered into where the predatory nostalgia got you and you're like, damn it, they caught me. They knew exactly what it was. Oh, man. I don't know.

It probably happens more than I care to admit. Oh, I bought a bag of Cheetos because the bag was the same as the old bag of Cheetos. Yeah, that'll... It works. I'm not... I know what I'm doing, though.

I'm also buying Cheetos. It's the same poison in a different package. But I'm just more... I want to know, like, in your brain, like, what that thing was where they're like, you know what? I like that old Cheeto bag. That got me. It I like to, I want to know like in your brand, like what that thing was where they're like, you know what? I like that old Cheeto bag.

That got me. It did get me. Yes. What about you, Billy? It just. Oh, I'm trying to. Oh, the last one that only, it was when I was still drinking soda, was Mountain Dew came out with the old design, which is that hillbilly or whatever.

And, but their kick was it had real sugar in it. Right, right, right. So then I was like, oh shit. That's the thing I'm always a sucker for when the soda's like, with sugar? I'm like, hell yes. I don't even drink fucking soda, but I'm like, suddenly I love fucking Pepsi throwback? Because it makes you high.

Yes, it does. Exactly. What is something that's underrated? Eating alone. Eat alone all the time. Oh, I totally agree Exactly. What is something that's underrated? Eating alone. Eat alone all the time. Oh, I totally agree. It's the fucking best. It weirds me out when people are like, I can't. Oh, I couldn't.

People will look at me. Like, what are you? No. You're like, where are you going? I'm going to go get something to eat. You're like, you want a cup of tea? No. No, no, no.

I'm just going to go eat. And they're like, are you okay? And you're like, oh, I'm great. Yes. I eat alone mostly at home sometimes when I'm cooking, and Her Majesty's at work still. But I don't actually, I can't. The last time I was in a restaurant by myself was probably,

oh, you know, in Japan, actually, a while back. I was going to say travel doesn't. A lot of people eat by themselves in Japan. And they have restaurants that are sort of set up that way, right? For like one person to look at a wall. You can read your manga or look on your phone or whatever. Do you look at your phone? Do you read a book?

What do you do? Are you just there? Depends on where I'm at. If it's like a people watching place, I'll sit there and eat for a long time. And just stare.

I don't like to work in public. That's strange. Like my wife likes to go to like a coffee shop that's busy and people are coming in and out and she's like,

I like to work there. I'm like, I would get nothing done. Just too much distraction? I need to watch what everyone's like, I like to work there. I'm like, I would get nothing done. Just too much distraction? I need to watch what everyone's doing. I mean, there's a reason I'm thinking

I lean to being a comedian is because I've already watching people. Right, right, right. But yeah, and then some places, yeah, you're just reading. Yeah.

Caitlin, if there are listeners out there who might not be open to having a dinner alone or a meal alone, sell them on it. Oh, the pleasure, the relaxation. If you're worried about that feeling that, like, it's noticeable, it just isn't. Yeah, I've never been like that. Nobody cares.

No server is going to be like, oh, you're eating alone? Right. Does that hurt your heart? On a Thursday? You get whatever you want. Yeah, I think it's just, you never have to, especially if you're hungry, waiting for someone is just, it's the worst. Or waiting in between bites to talk. Sometimes it's like, let's just eat this shit and then we talk after.

Yes. Eating is also a physical function that you need. So enjoy it, relax, don't compromise in any part of it, and just have it all your little own. Fuck the formality. And what's a myth? What's a myth? What's something people get wrong?

You want to hip them to the truth. Save it for a rainy day. Spend it, baby. The world's over. And once it's raining that hard, money ain't going to matter. Hell yeah. Spend it all. You think that's a myth?

What? Saving for a rainy day. You think saving for a rainy day is a myth? No, I just had to think of something. Oh, okay. And that had a fun quippy thing for it. Oh, is that how you feel? Well, no, I'm just curious.

I wasn't mad or anything. I'm just more curious. The thought process has been like, I think as comediansians we definitely think that way especially early in our career where it's like we have to just take anything we can give and put it right back into it but then i also think like we me and my friend matt call it crying in the shower when you're just crying in the shower in a hotel room because you're like the math doesn't work oh Oh, yeah. Right.

Yeah. I mean, that is a different problem. Yes. Yeah. I mean, aside from the existential crisis of a comedian who you've never heard of, and therefore I have money that I have never heard of, what I'm talking about is rainy day. Sure. I mean, let's key in on that one word in what I have declared to be a myth.

One word in what I have declared to be a myth. Like, if we're really talking, I'm applying the catastrophic meaning to rain. Your rainy day is an apocalypse. Yeah, I'm talking about, like, climate change, rainy day. You mean someone implugs electricity, that kind of thing. Yes, that kind of rainy day. I mean that in the horrors that are coming, your money will not save you. Wow. So have fun while we got fun to have.

Oh, like the illusion of what our money is. So when it comes, the only thing that will matter is the knowledge and ability you have. When we live in Waterworld and we're all Kevin Costner drinking our own pee, your interest rate isn't going to matter. And we're all speaking Portuguese. My only advice to that would be collect gold. Yeah.

Because that will actually still be worse. I didn't understand that for so long. I thought humans were dumb because we liked shiny gold. But I didn't understand that gold is right in the middle of the periodic table of elements. It's just rare enough to be found everywhere, but hard enough to be fine to be rare. It's on a short list of things that isn't a vapor, isn't toxic, is malleable.

It has a natural intrinsic value that I hadn't given it before. It conducts electricity. It does a lot of interesting. That rainy day sort of idea too is sort of built on this like deferred gratification thing of like, well toil now and you can be happy later right or this idea that like right now like you might you know save it up or you know defer that gratification for later because you never know what's going to happen

and i think that's the other thing we kind of get wrong is like we need to be happy right now right well it's an agriculture not necessarily a function of economy either. It comes from an agriculture where it's like, yo, you need to save because, yes, we're feasting right now. But because the crops, yes, shit could come and we don't have this. Yeah, absolutely. It's like, I think that's where it comes from. And now we have a plethora of all the shit. Right. So much shit.

It's going to kill us. Yes. Right. Yeah. And of course, save your actual money. Of course, I'm not saying go spend your i'm just saying metaphorically sure but when life like when it really becomes a rainy day all that shit you saved isn't what you actually bought a boat yeah right it's like well i got three

vizios yeah you're like well you should have bought can those float yeah i think the other thing i think yeah there was um what the fuck was the book called it's it's a it's a book by i forget one of the people who works in a positive psychology you know like not looking at uh all of the uh the ills of like our mental health but the ways we can sort of hypercharge our psychology for good um and yeah the one of the biggest things is like this fallacy that people think when you're successful, you're happy versus that most many successful people are happy first. And that was the sort of the environment in which their success grew out of versus this idea of like, well, fuck, when I'm successful, then I'll be happy. And they're like, no, no, no.

You're energetically putting the cart in directly in front of the horse. Yeah. No, it's that what they say to like people when they get famous, they just become an exaggerated version of the horse. Yes. Yeah. No, it's that, what they say too, like people, when they get famous, they just become an exaggerated version of who they were before. And it really is true.

I know people that were miserable before they got famous and now they're just even more. A bigger kind of miserable. Yes. And then the people

that were happy before and now they have all the stuff and they're like super happy. Right. So I think that is very true. Like it's a decision you make every morning when you wake up. Get happy, y'all. All right, with that is very true like it's a decision you make

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What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And really quickly, there was an article in BuzzFeed that was talking about the future of malls might be on college campuses, which is so fucking amazing. so American that I can't believe it. We've talked in the past about how the traditional mall is dying because of e-commerce and the fact that the just general

brokenness of these newer generations, ourselves included. But the way retails are kind of, you know, finding a way to survive, it says go right to the doorstep of these broke-ass kids, which is on a college campus or right in or around a college campus in the city. And so, like, these are the new hot locations for, you know, trying to form consumption habits in these young adults very early. So you have, like, Target, Urban Outfitters, even fucking Lululemon. And building debt while you do it. Of course.

Exactly. Yeah, the credit card applications are right there well and they know that you've got free money because you've taken out these loans at to get into this school so you've got most of that money is to live on it's not even to for the tuition right so then you can spend all this money it's not yours you're gonna pay back it anyway but give it to us for and then what they've also done is they've looked at airports and they're like where are people trapped yeah and then they're like oh let's create a mall in the airport and that's what most airports are although that harley davidson store at lax not doing too well good i'm just certain but there are certain ones because it's not in the

southwest terminal do you have you seen any why would you not? Have you seen any thriving, though, like airport stores? Chick-fil-A. No, no, no, like a retail operation. Yeah, the one that's... Hudson News, baby. Well, I was going to say Hudson News, and then the one that has all the headphones and stuff. That one, they keep popping up.

Oh, my God. I had to get a fucking charging cable. They fucking got you by the fucking balls and gametes in this motherfucker. They pull that charging cable tighter and they just rip your balls off. Exactly. Snapped right off. After you paid them for it. Exactly.

They said, do you want a receipt? I said, yes. He snatched my sack off like a paper towel and handed it to me. Yeah, so anyway, I digress. The thing that's interesting is a lot of the data, though, that especially Target has been looking at is that, wait a second, these smaller format stores are performing very well. They have their first small format store near the University of Minnesota in 2014,

and since then, 98 small of these mini targets, I think they're like city targets, they call them around here, 26 of them are near college or university campuses. And they just say like the customers shop more frequently because it's like the selection is smaller, but they're always going to get the things they need there because they have just enough selection where a lot of the students are like, well, it's close and it has most of what I need and it's kind of cheap. And it's a big Walgreens. Yeah. They also don't have money or time to go anywhere else.

Yeah. Well, and then the other thing is at USC. They have time. They've completely turned USC into the Americana. Well, not the Americana, but they've converted the village into like- You can't compare USC to any other university. I know, but of course, that's what I'm saying. I'm going to rain on them, and I'm going to get some hate mail for no reason. Not worth engaging.

I mean, I think most USC students who are reasonable and know what the legacy of USC is can know that it's a rich kid's school where they crank out young Republicans. Yes. That's fine. Yes. And some great film school talents, too. And for kids overseas whose parents own industries. Exactly.

They can come get a degree. Exactly. They don't really need because they've already they already know what they're going to do right and at the usc when it's like you know a lot of people are like yo you're just gentrifying this area what much quicker and they're like no we're gonna like 30 of the people we hire will be low income and then we're also going to prioritize people within a five mile radius 30 of the people you hire are going to be low income 30 of the people you hire clean up shit and you treat them like they have no dignity.

Well, but I use that stat, though, and that sounds good. No, but I mean, that's a good thing. It's like, loophole. We already do. And yeah, I think the other criticism, too, is like some students who aren't as privileged as the other ones, maybe your typical SC student, are saying like, I don't have money to like shop at some of these retailers. Like these aren't really necessarily for college students. But again, you know. Yeah.

It's for rich kids. Yeah. It's for like, it's weird. Like I remember, didn't you have a meal plan when you went to school? Yeah. I had a meal plan. Right. But like I walked to that USC one because there's an Amazon store you can drop stuff

off. Right. Return it. It's a nightmare to get to. I only did it once. Yes. And I was like oh this is not worth returning this is how they get you yes i am now keeping this shoe that doesn't fit exactly yes uh but there's a trader joe's there right shoes so many restaurants in on the campus that i was like oh this is i never maybe once a week i would go to a restaurant that I worked at. Right.

Right. Because I was getting, I was like, this is rich kid shit. Yeah, I mean, unless you're eating, you'll usually eat at the cafeteria, like the meal hall, or dining hall rather, or like the myriad of like broke kid restaurants that are set up for like, you got four bucks? Yeah. Okay, this is what we got. Yeah, here's some Chinese food buffet that we've had on this display since you've been in college. Since you were in junior high.

Yes. Also, RIP your blood pressure because this is just basically sodium with colors on it. Oh, all you eat in college is just salt in various packages. Oh, that Maloney joke where he's like, I didn't drink water once. Yeah, that was like, I would be like, man, look at that hippie

with their Nalgene in class. I'm like, I'm still drinking. I was just saying there was liquor in that when people did that. It was like, was it like a vodka? Not at Humboldt State University. That was a tried and true,

Nalgene's were an essential fashion accessory. Yeah, I'm a little crunchy up there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Okay, moving on. Oh, North Face was the only brand that mattered.

I do think there's a future for malls. It does make sense, not just for economic reasons, but colleges are set up to be malls in the traditional definition, not of commerce, but of a place of open air walking from one function to the next. Right. Which is what a mall is theoretically supposed to be. Like, the guy who made malls, original founder of glenn mall yeah dr glenn

there is like an architect that made the first malls and they were these they were kind of designed to trap you in them but also to make you interact with people victor uh you say victor yeah uh but yeah what we've done with the mall idea, is turn it upside down and ruin it. And he just would have hated the malls that became malls of current times, which kind of cracked me up. And this is a little closer to what malls were. Well, he died in 1980. Because you walk there. Like, the store becomes a part of your community because they blend it in with the architecture and with everything else.

So Trader Joe's isn't a standalone entity in your mind trader joe's is part it's seamed into your where you live where you study where you work and where you eat it i mean it's sort of predatory and it sort of makes sense yeah like yeah trader joe's is actually trying to be part of a community yes little lemon isn't it's you know it's a different company yeah they're like we changed our name because we thought asian people couldn't say it right yeah and i'm like wow wow yeah when you i thought that was a joke oh you guys read articles about i'm like what the fuck okay but those that active wear feels really great oh man i just really got the joke too i just said it in my head where I was like, and they said it out loud.

As my mother would say it, ru-ru-demo. And those noises sound funny. Yep. You know what I mean? Those noises are... Yeah, man, got him. All right, let's sell some yoga mats.

God damn it. Matt, let's talk about another business that doesn't have their shit together. What does the New York Times call themselves? The paper of record or prestige journalism? Anyway, they are having a real hard time telling people what is happening on Earth in general. Yeah, they can't. Earlier, there was an op-ed like after the shootings that said, you know, what for white nationalists who agree with the

ideology but don't like the violence, they should talk to their other people like what they were like sort of saying that white nationalists needs to self police cut to when Trump gave that really empty gesture of like unity speech, I guess it was just a teleprompter where he didn't even know the difference between Dayton and Toledo, Ohio. The first cover, or the first front page headline read, Trump urges unity versus racism. It's not a great way to word that.

Wow. You mean guy whose fiery rhetoric is inspiring this kind of violence. But, you know, he's saying but guys it's i i don't like i don't like white supremacy it's bad so i guess that's him urging unity or i guess he used words that technically could be defined as that but completely missing the point about what this president means to uh many of these white nationalists um and that's his base yeah well

then then they once enough people were, what the fuck is this headline? Like, how could you even act as if this president is leading the country in any direction but south? Then there was like, assailing hate but not guns. Okay. I don't, okay. I feel like, you know, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here a little bit, because I feel like the way the newspapers and media works now is you have to, they don't know how to engage interaction. thing where it's like the guy being like here's how you save money not tipping and knowing knowing that the most of the world would be like let's burn the whole thing down right because of that so i think they are they put these op-eds in there to fire people up because they know when they do

that they look at these these stats these analytics that say hey when we the when we say this crazy shit the money thing goes up right i mean that aside i think the front page isn't an op-ed and my biggest criticism with the new york times right now is based on this headline which obscures the actual reality of what the country is in right now to say that the trump that the president was urging unity is not true. I think he disingenuously tried to come off as an empathetic leader and failed terribly. Yeah. And I think this, for anyone who isn't quite, you know, as engaged with the news, they'll read that and be like, oh, I guess the president. OK, so I guess he's urging unity versus racism rather than Trump is encouraging racism versus unity. rather than Trump is encouraging racism versus unity.

It's also just framing the language, which every good tyrant does, which when Trump says he opposes white supremacy, that's because he's already given you a whole language that means that that isn't those words because his base knows that those words are the bad words that you're not supposed to be or say, but you can say immigration, you can say infestation, you can say go back home, you can say lock them up, you can say all of that stuff to mean the same thing. So he's just parroting back, like, no, no, no, kids, we're still not, ha-ha, we're still not Nazis,

but yes, we can have detention centers, and yes, we can have, you know, it's... It's those assholes that, and it's, okay, here's an example of where I learned it a long time ago. The terminology, getting rid of words will never make it go away. Because I went to see this guy I went to high school with. He worked on a farm. And him and these guys lived together.

We were young. And I went to drink with them all weekend. They kept talking about seeing these Canadians. There were a bunch of Canadians there, blah, blah. At first I was like, that's weird that they hate these canadians the way they're saying it come to find out they were talking about black people and they were saying canadians instead of the n-word because they knew that they couldn't say that anymore and once i i mean it took me a day and a half to figure it out yeah uh also because we were in

missouri right so it was like there might have been like four black people that they saw right in this fucking farm town so it made me like that's when i realized like oh they're just gonna they could say concrete or whatever word yeah it's just the hate that comes with it. And that's what he's doing. He can just say, like you said, it's just immigration or, you know, it's like... It's that dog whistle bit. It's me saying the word, I have a bit about this in my act, it's like me, my wife is Jewish.

Me saying that with my accent, some people cringe because it sounds hateful. Because the people that have said Jew with my accent have said it in a hateful way for years right so it's just a it's and they don't know how to frame it either i think that oh i think they do i think that's my problem with the new york times they think they've always been um for a paper of record they are a white ass record oh without a doubt i mean i was poking around on my phone trying to find some of their uh historic headlines that make this headline no surprise and because this one's making so much noise it's a little harder to find but let's not forget hits

like negro cocaine fiends are a new southern menace murder and insanity increasing among lower class blacks because they have taken to sniffing since deprived of whiskey by prohibition. And that was 2002. But it reads like, I mean, go to the 80s, and you're looking at the same headlines, like exactly the same headlines. They've been politicizing issues. This paper in particular politicizes social and racial issues in the worst frames possible, and they have for a long time.

And it's a very weird white tradition where like, we're not racist. So nothing can be racist. So we're going to figure out how this isn't about race or racism. Right. And the New York times during this timeframe of a turn of the century, last century, during this Negro cocaine fiends article craze was running articles about how war

veterans are um the like suffering because of their post-war injuries uh what they were taking for those post-war injuries was cocaine and they were losing their fucking minds it was prescribed it was in this year's robot catalog it was just ugly it was everywhere yes of course it does it most certainly does really good but it comes with this other host of problems that we couldn't blame on veterans so we only looked at the problems when they happened to people who weren't white veterans right and then we made them criminals and we like it's um it's wealthy liberals is who we're talking it is exactly wealthy liberals and. And we're doing the same thing by letting Trump take the language of, you know, he can say he's not white supremacist because the New York Times will print his opinions about immigration as if it's news that isn't racist. Right.

That's like, this is what he said rather than this president has unacceptable views that society is a reject. It's an old trick to sell papers is constant conflict and even when there's not conflict they create it to sell papers. This is a bizarre, what an era to think that you have to manufacture conflict in. Imagine

being a journalist in this time and saying you gotta make something up. We're not talking about actual journalists when we're talking about, they're real journalists. I mean, to their credit, there are some good journalists at the New York Times. Yes, but that's not who we're talking about.

That's the frustrating part. We're going to have a longer discussion about this headline than we did about the story the New York Times wrote about Donald Trump's financial history revealing the dirty tricks he's been up to with his family since he was literally three years old and was given a trust.

But there's no conflict there because it's just fact. That's a rich guy story. Well, and it's fact. It's just a fact that we all go, yep, but how do we stop it? They've got to stop talking like this. So dumb people don't understand. We need to start communicating. And that's part of what you're saying with the New York Times is like, my thing with them is like any,

it's the same as wealthy liberals. It's like when I moved to Seattle, I thought, Oh, cool. I'm going to this bastion of progressiveness. And I've come from this little town in East Tennessee. And then I get there and I'm like,

where the fuck is all the black people? Yeah. Right. Yes. You know, and you're like, Oh, they live in a different part of town.

You're like, Oh, and then you hear like people that are liberal or whatever call the black part of town the ghetto and you're like that's not a ghetto yeah right that's where black people live that's a neighborhood but that's i can show you a ghetto yeah the well yeah because again even like you were saying there's not a we haven't had a reckoning with the racism of this country america like you know i was saying yesterday, gold medal in deluding ourselves that we never did anything wrong ever. It's incredible. And we're amazing. So racism.

Santa Monica. Us? It's Santa Monica. Right. Yeah. No, exactly. 100%. And it's one of the most liberal cities in the world.

And it's also a hotbed for young fascists. Yes. Ah. Well, let's talk – speaking of inability to hold themselves accountable, the GOP is just doing a great job of that. I guess they didn't learn their lesson from the absolute thrashing they got in the midterms over their inability to just read the general vibe of the country and what people want. You know, so right now, in the wake of the shootings, people are asking for, they're

clamoring, they're literally saying, do something, screaming that at legislators to do something about gun control and to take white nationalism seriously as a actual domestic terror threat. And the GOP, they're doing not that much. A lot of empty words. Lindsey Graham was like, yeah, we could, I could back a red flag bill, but also said maybe states should handle that problem first, and then we can do something at a national level. That is not a response, right? And it just-

It's a playbook. It's a playbook. No, 100%. But again, when you look at the midterms, there were people who won swing districts on gun control. You know what I mean? And a lot of people were like, that ain't, that's not going to work. Okay, here's my thought on this, because I do like strategy and I enjoy that stuff.

I think this group of quote-unquote GOP that we're talking about, they don't give a shit what their constituents think. I think that there's some weird coup being planned. The way it's all this weird audition, like all these congressional hearings, and when they, you know, I like beer! That's all auditioning. Like Lindsey Graham saying in those speeches

that Jordan dude from Ohio, it's some kind of fascist theater, so when something happens, they don't care if they get elected anymore or not i don't think that's the way they're viewing this they're gonna be in power forever like they they have that and i don't like saying that but that's the only thing that lines up well especially well i mean there's strategically well when you think about this when like ted cruz is like we need to make anti-fascists a terrorist group exactly so if a group that is anti-fascist is illegal

and is a terrorist group, that would indicate that perhaps the government itself is a fascist government. It's just a little bit fascist. Yep. So, you know, but again, when you take those things into account, but I think also at the moment, right,

there still are, there is an ability still to possibly participate in some kind of representative democracy here with voting. But I do, I do agree that they, they do have this attitude. It's like, well,

we got this other card we can play. Yeah. And we're not going to play it yet, but like, there is this really eerie calm and it's, it's either they feel like they have another card they can play, or it's just this inability to actually see what else is going on too, because things are changing i don't

i think they don't think the american public will protest and walk out of their jobs if they take power i i and i hope they're wrong but i understand that bet that they're betting on that people just get complacent enough to be like well yeah is the wi-fi working yeah yeah and the knicks are still playing yes yes maybe we'll see but yeah i mean that that's there's obviously i mean we've already been slow boiling to this point when you just think of everything that's been happening um and again just to go along with it now too even people who are within the party who are speaking out against the GOP, like Republicans themselves, they're just going after them. So in Nebraska, the Republican Party called for a state senator, John McAllister, to just re-register as a Democrat because he got some attention on Sunday after he's saying the Republican Party, this is a quote, is enabling white supremacy in our country.

As a lifelong Republican, it pains me to say this, but it's the truth. So they're like, oh, you know what? Why don't you just change your, why don't you just change to Democrat then, if you're going to talk like that? Rather than, you know, engaging, saying, yeah, maybe this is a thing because this is someone who is somewhat reasonable and looking at objectively what's going on, saying this is not a good look. McAulish at that point just said he would like love to do it because he he would be able to tell his constituents the truth for once. So, yeah. And he basically said that a lot of the activity in the Republican Party described it, quote, as obvious racist and

immoral activity inside our party. And then this is what's happening. So now they're screaming out the people who are trying to bring reason into the party. But I guess that's part of this evolution that's happening. It's like, well, hold on, man. We already took the fucking mask off. We already know this is what it is. So if you have a problem with racism, then go be a Democrat. That is the message.

You know what I mean? It's an insane message to put forward. Like, you know, blind pride in your party is one thing but like oh you don't like racism go to the other side then that's it is how dare you how dare you describe our party with accuracy get the fuck out i'm not trying to wake up yeah snooze the fuck out on that one please um and then also um you also look at sort of what's happening in Texas, too. You know, there was a shooting in El Paso and there's this in, you know, I think Trump could be visiting today or tomorrow. There's a lot of hesitation because they're like, you're the precisely because the way you're speaking and the person's manifesto is echoing your words.

Yeah. I don't we don't really want you here. Yeah, I don't we don't really want you here. But there's a lot of fear on the right about where Texas is headed, because we've talked about this in the past. But if Texas, you know, as it goes from red to now, it's starting to get purplish. The second it goes to blue and you look at all the states that are locked in as blue states, there is no path to 270 electoral votes for the Republicans at that point. There just aren't. And that's an existential threat that they're having to really look at because they've been very rigid in their policies and slowly, as everything else evolves- They've also underestimated how strong a woman is in Texas. And they've went after women in Texas more than a lot of other places in the South. But what they don't understand

is women control that household. Whether those men act like it or not, women control that household. I mean, some of the most memorable Texas leaders have been, yeah, some boss-ass ladies. Yes, and I mean, I go to texas quite a bit it's one i will never live there uh but the spirit there is contagious and i love it uh but i understand it to a certain degree and it's like the south too is like these motherfuckers are gonna push and push

and these women will take a lot because they always have and they've been taught how to right um but there's a point and they've reached it and then there's this new generation below these uh women that aren't married and don't give a fuck right but they've got that same spirit and that's scary yeah i'm very attracted to that type of woman that's who I'm sexually attracted to is a little pushback. That's the reason I married a little Jewish woman. That's my type. Get in your face, yeah. I need someone to tell me shut the fuck up because I won't.

Someone says shut the fuck up, that's foreplay. She's got the right spunk, yeah. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, depending on what I'm saying and Right. Yeah, and how I'm acting. For sure it is. And it's also this thing of like Texans also recognize an enemy, a true enemy. And for a while, they were scared because they politicized some immigrants coming up and causing some problems. Now, it was cartel shit, and they made it seem like it was normal shit.

That's a political move they did. But Texans are smart, and that's why they're so armed. It was a lot of people that went there because they like fighting, and then they're like, hey, there's a lot of space. Let's hang out here. Right, right, right. But they can recognize that, oh, the true enemy now is not these poor people who have been helping us farm.

Right. It's these crazy motherfuckers. Right, right, right. Who we've been kind of backing because they scared us into thinking they were taking our guns and shit. Right. But it's starting to come around generationally, too. And, I mean, since Texas also, they have the nation's fastest growing cities, that means the suburbs are also swelling. Yeah.

nation's fastest growing cities, that means the suburbs are also swelling. Yeah. And the suburbs are all voting in a very similar way, which is they're moving blue. Yeah. And that's why even donors, right? So there's Dan Eberhardt, who is a donor oil gas executive, who said straight up, he's like, Republicans are going to be extinct in the suburbs if they don't distance themselves from the NRA. Yep.

The GOP needs to put forth solutions to help eradicate this gun violence epidemic. This is from a Trump-supporting oil and gas man who is saying, like, I know what the fuck is going on. Like, if you don't sort this shit out, I don't know who the fuck... You're going to have to create bots to vote for you,

which they might do. Well, they already have done that. And again, this same donor is saying needs to make a lot of moves like universal background checks, loopholes. This is all coming from these donors, the people who are backing it financially. And to then follow that up, again, he says, otherwise, Republicans are going to lose suburban voters just like they did in the midterms on health care. So they're in a bit of a tough spot.

But again, I don't know the way i'm looking at it's either they're gonna not change or maybe there's this weird trump card pun intended that we don't know about well they'll cheat yeah i mean they're trying i mean i think that's the that's that's the attitude i think they're really taking more than the courts the courts pack the courts fucking gerrymander the fuck out of this gerrymander we will prevent people that's been their move they've been setting this up since they declared abortion a political issue they've been setting up how to gain power in the 60s they started gerrymandering there they started figuring out how the and the democrats don't because they're not and it's just like i think it's a core people foundation issue is like and the good thing is that I think there's more people that lean left in the world than lean right.

It's just the people that lean hard right are super fucking motivated. Right. It's like evangelical fanatical religious people. They're very motivated. They're the loudest and they're not going to chill out and be like you want to go to the park and just smoke some weed and play with our dogs they're like no let's we gotta figure out what the fuck we're gonna do let's figure out how to manipulate the system so that we gain all the power right and it's like we just need more motivated good time people

it's two forces on so left and right have competing forces if the good-natured side of both left and right uh conservative and liberal whatever labels fucking apply anymore i don't know or care but the fundamental fight is between self-preservation and altruism two natural forces that drive us to necessary forces, two forces that need balance in order to be effective. You have to preserve yourself. You have to take care of your own being so that you can take care of others, even if you want it. You know, the two work together. And more traditionally, a conservative philosophy sort of says that if you and yours are OK, then you will be able to move through the world without causing harm. Whereas, you know, whatever the liberal side sort of believes is like, well,

if we all take care and are, you know, invested in one another, then we'll all be able to move through okay. Positive forces. Each one of those sides has a negative force as well that wants to take and control. That we've enjoyed brief stints in our history uh where there were sort of polite leaders who had that more i don't know the light side of conservatism and liberalism uh we've had those leaders at the helm and right now we have balance you're talking about balance i am talking about a balance yeah that's the idea but with a philosophical intent and and we have a different philosophical intent that's predatory and honestly it's so easy to say democrats can't don't are spineless and don't stand up to the republicans um but that's a i

think we're missing a split where um right now there isn't a predatory arm that's very alive in liberal politics and conservative politics do have a predatory arm that's very alive in liberal politics and conservative politics do have a predatory arm that's alive and it's eating up all the conservatives actual conservatives are drowning at the people who just think that if we take good care of ourselves we can take good care of others have no place in the republican party currently it's being devoured by horrible predators and i mean yeah it is hard to watch it's a shame because i do believe as a way too liberal person that there's a necessary balance that i'm interested in a conservative counterpoint um but this is not it and they're gone and there's no home for them in their party welcome to our side come on over i need you over here i guess

yeah the weird thing about the conservatives at this point because the way i've always understood it the way i've always liked to look at it is like people change and ideas change and that's why liberalism can kind of change and will always progress because our understanding and our world is always progressing where conservative is you know it's usually a policy thing and i think you're totally right where it's not about policy difference anymore like most conservatives i knew growing up were just more like numbers never change business and you're like like you're saying like i take care of my own i've always had a problem with that to a certain degree because I like to go where it's the leave on home way of thinking.

You take what you need and you leave the rest. Yeah. Where a lot of- Keep what you got. Give what you got, keep what you need. Well, that's the thing. They're not- It became more greedy, greedy, greedy.

And it became less about policy and more about like you got to get yours at any cost and i think that came from the 80s is when that was really sparked is when that corporate puppet and that's what he is ronald reagan was a corporate he was a shield before he was a politician that's why he was an actor he was just a commercial actor is what he mostly was a bag of flesh that you could needed to say what it had and he was an actor. He was just a commercial actor is what he mostly was. He was a bag of flesh that you needed to say what it had to. And he was good at saying stuff. I will admit that. He's great to listen to.

Great orator. But that greed, we stopped sending all our most talented, smartest people to learn how to better humanity and reward them for it, and we sent them to Wall Street because that's where all the money is. That's where all the power is. That's it's been that for 40 years and now we're reaping that. Right.

Yeah. Well, you know, uh, maybe there'll be bright days ahead, but we won't know until after this commercial break. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.

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I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?

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party starter aaron carter sorry darren he is in a little bit of hot water because apparently he went to go rescue a bulldog and then uh this like this rescue uh facility was like oh we're so happy aaron carter gave this new dog a forever home. Like, you know, please send us pictures. He went on Instagram live, like, I don't know, maybe a day or two later, maybe that day. And was talking like, this is my new dog. Check it out. You know, hopefully I'll be able to keep it. You know, I don't know if I'll be able to, you know, if I might be on the road or whatever, but if I can't keep it, you know, I can sell him for $3,500 and And, you know, he's a good dog.

And hopefully I can be able to keep him. But, you know, if I'm not able to, maybe for $3,500, you could buy him DM me. And then people were like, hold the fuck on. Is Aaron Carter just flipping this rescue dog for money? And is this something he's doing? I hope so. He comes out with a tweet that says, I think it's appalling that I actually even have to explain myself. I've rescued many dogs and found many dogs homes.

What I said in my Instagram live video was a joke. Find one dog that I adopted and sold for money. Be my guest. Won't happen. I'm a good person and I deserve respect. Sure, it could be a joke, but when you say the price many times and not like ha ha ha like and you're trying to create a logical reason as to why you could sell the dog um it's it's i'm failing to see the joke now you two are very familiar with jokes uh you do them professionally here's the thing i don't like defending aaron carter i don't i didn't come here to be in that position no i hear you but this isn't that cut and dry. He said he was asking $3,500 for the bulldog. Yeah.

That's a lot for a bulldog. You can get a puppy for $1,500, which is a lot for a dog, period. Sure. But you can get a brand new puppy for $1,500. That's why I think he's joking. I don't think he's a comedian. I think that's part of the problem when people like him or pretty women or athletes think they're funny.

It's because their fans laugh at them because they didn't act. I'm right here, Billy. I'm sorry, Caitlin. I know. But do you understand what I'm saying? Where it's like, these guys think they're funny

because all these fans laugh at them when they do something silly. Yeah. So their idea of a joke isn't. It's like, when I just say something that I don't mean. Yes. That's a joke. Yes. That's very funny.

Yes. And not actually jokes. Right. No, it's a lie. It does. It is. It's alarming in your defense when you're like, show me a dog that I've adopted that I didn't keep. Find a picture of one of the dogs I adopted but didn't keep.

Go ahead. Find the evidence. You won't find it. It does suggest that maybe there are some dogs you adopted that you didn't keep. And if it was a joke or something, I mean, again, maybe a lot of people respond very viscerally to things on the internet and they feel they have to defend themselves if it was in fact a joke

and you've never done that you might not even dignify that shit with a response be like dude are you kidding me fuck that even then

because in your mind it's like this is going to go nowhere because I've never sold a dog so there's no way they could even follow this up aside from just me saying that

we're also talking about a guy who was a pop star when he was like 12 yeah so his brain isn't I think even follow this up aside from just me saying that we're also talking about a guy who was a pop star when he was like 12 yeah so his brain isn't i think we're trying to put normal stuff in his brain thirty five hundred dollars i think that's what we're discovering i feel like implication of like i got a dog yesterday but who knows i could be on the road is like you'd know you know when and where and And yet, theoretically, you could be doing a state fair somewhere, Aaron Carter,

but I'm going to guess you might not get $3,500. Right, right, right. I bet he does. I bet he gets $3,500. I bet. Yeah. What would you say for... If he's doing a state fair?

Do you think Aaron Carter's doing state fairs? No. Am I underestimating his appeal or overestimating? I can tell you where he's going to be. He's going to be at the Indiana State Fair on August 9th. Got it. Yeah. Then the Capitol Theater in Flint, Michigan.

And then some other stuff, too. That's mean. Flint deserves better. Well, no. It's a mid-market, and I think that's what it's getting. That's fair. And I think he's getting probably at least $15,000 or $20,000. You think $15,000?

To do a state? What about for a state fair? That's free admission, though. Yes, but it's not free admission. It's free admission to the concert. Sure. And it costs money to get into the fair. And then they're making – I just know some people that have done that fair circuit.

It's a lot of them. It's a lot. There's a reason they do it. Right, right, right. It's a ton of fucking money for one show. Well, Zygang, if you have insider information on the financial situations of state fairs, please let us know because I really want to go to a state fair actually very soon. I worked at a county fair for a number of years. I can't give you any state fair secrets. Ah let us know because I really want to go to a state fair actually very soon. I worked at a county fair

for a number of years. I can't give you any state fair secrets. See, like that Minnesota. But I can't say the county fair is a hustle. They make a lot of money. They make a ton of money

or they wouldn't do it every year. Yeah, that's true. Anywhere where it's deep fried hell, just take me there. Okay, well, Caitlin, thank you so much for being with us today.

What a treat it was. You're going on the road soon, right? I am. Tell people where they can find you and follow you and see you live. Yes, please. Zyte Gang, I have so many shows coming up all over the West. Don't worry, East Coast, I'm coming soon. But if you're in the Bay Area, August

15th through 17th, I'm all over Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Petaluma. And then I head north. If you're in Eureka, come see me the 22nd. If you are in Salem, Oregon, come see me on the 23rd. After that, I'm in Portland on the 28th. What's up, Helium? I need all the Zeitgang in Seattle

to swarm on Fremont Abbey on the 30th. That's me and Jackie Cation. That is going to be an awesome show. And then I head out to Boise, Idaho for the 208 Comedy Fest. If you're in Boise, come. It's going to be super fun. And then I am in Denver right before High Plains

for a High Plains preview show at High Dive. So Denver buddies, please come out. And then back to L.A. Oh, I know there's Zeitgang in Colorado. September 22nd at Dynasty Typewriter. I would like to see Zeitgang everywhere. I will be, of course, selling my brand new album, Major, after the shows. But I am mainly there to give high fives.

So please come high my five there you go tell me that you are a zykinger and i would be delighted delighted to see your sweet faces uh billy what about you where can people find you follow you support you love if you at billy wayne davis on twitter or instagram that's usually the ones i keep up with and then uh all my tour dates are at bwd tour.com and i will be i was a consultant creative consultant because that's it's a fancy word for writer when they can't pay you like a writer on the new season of squid billies that comes out next week nice and i'm doing some voices on some episodes that we haven't recorded yet oh shit, shit. It's fun when they're like, oh, it's coming out next week. Also, we're going to do some episodes in three weeks.

And you're like, what? Oh. I'm nervous. Oh, I forgot to ask. Caitlin, is there a tweet that you're liking? Oh, man. Something you read. You're like, hey.

Hilarious good buddy Kevin O'Shea tweeted out out I took a picture of it so I could get it right I'm gonna open it up but I remember it this is a Kevin O'Shea tweet comedians in cars picking up their 17 year old girlfriends from high school oh man that is accurate it is Jerry comedians and Porsches picking up their seven I think Porsches picking up their girlfriends at a park. I believe is the story of that one. What about you, Billy? I mean, I've got to just give it out to the man that replied to Jason Isbell with the legitimate question about gun control. legitimate question about gun control.

What are you going to do when 30 to 50 feral hogs are coming at your children while they're playing in the yard? Three to five minutes. Yep. That is maybe the best tweet of all time. Yeah. It's a great response, man. It set off. It overtook Twitter comedy culture yesterday.

Everything became feral hog. And I couldn't, normally I hate when that happens. Yeah, but some of these are tickling me. Well, yesterday it was just like, this is the funnest thing I've ever seen. This is from the Dan Stringer. Take me down to the paradise city where the hogs are feral in the 3250s. Yeah, there's a few great ones. That's perfect.

That is a pretty great one. 30 to 50 feral hogs 3250s yeah there's a great one perfect that is a pretty great one 30 to 50 feral hawks that would be at this time of year in this part of the country localized entirely within your yard that's where my simpsons fans well that's it's okay the answer is landmines they do go get feral it is the thing that happens and there are like packs of them. There's never 30 to 50. Maybe where you live. Well, the reason I know this is because my truly conservative friend, who's not a dingbat, he's just a conservative person. He and I, and he can, he'll admit when things are crazy.

He's not tribal about stuff. Yeah. And we were talking about AR-15s. And he was a Marine. And he was like, I was like, when do we need one? And he's like, I can't answer that. Three days later, he sent me an article. He's like, I found a reason why we actually would need one.

And it's like in the middle of Texas in these huge ranches. Right. These hogs get loose, and they become packs, and then they just kind of fuck up stuff. Right. So they go in helicopters with machine guns, and they take care of them. But they're out in the middle of nowhere. Right, right, right. And they're messing up land.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you should have a machine gun, but there should also be a crazy permit to go kill a grizzly bear. Right. Where you have to get that gun, or you have to hire the National Guard to go do it for you they're like sir i think you have an ar are you hog certified that's what i'm saying you use a feral hog permit yeah yes that's fine and it should be really fucking hard to get oh boy man i wish there was a great tweet

uh the right side there's a video that uh i retweeted from YouTube. Somebody took a MIA song. What's the... Paper Planes? Yes, Paper Planes. That's MIA and Diplo. Thank you. MIA and Diplo. Credit to both. And replaced all the gunshots with musket shots. You know the chorus and you know it's gunshots and you know how best...

Yeah, it's just bang, bang, bang, bang. Right. Right in a row. When you replace them all with musket shots, the song is 12 minutes long. Oh, so they do the whole thing. To actually prime it, get the wadding in. Exactly. All I want to do is bang. You know, pebbles go in.

Hit it. Just ram it down with a stick. Re-aim. Boom. Pebbles go in. Ram it down with a stick. Re-aim. Boom.

It's the best. And it's the best argument for gun control I have ever heard. There is no better argument you need. You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like is from Rachel Senat. At Rachel Senat says, If I wasn't a successful actress, then how would I have this tote bag that says HBO? Which is everyone in the Southern California area.

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