The Daily Zeitgeist - Man Age, Pod Cast

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

This week we catch up on the unhinged AFCON final, Carabao Cup results and thank the heavens that every other team sucked just a little bit more than Arsenal this round!See omnystudio.com/listener for... privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 If you're Javi, you can't go from a private school of all f***ed up entitled Spoil Kids to an insane public school. Where nobody knows how to read? Give me something regular, please. Okay, wow. Another week of English Premier League football. And I'm not exasperated. I'm relieved. I'm relieved.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I think that's the best word to use. And I already jumped the intro many, many steps. But I will find a new description to completely categorize how I feel about the week's action. But allow me to go around the proverbial horn if it would. Yes, I will. Chris Martin. Give me three to seven words. Probably you feel about Matchweek 22 and potentially Carabal Cup and Afgon Final.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Shit. Yeah, yeah. No, I actually can do it in one word. Can I do one word? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said three though, but... All right. No, go, do one.
Starting point is 00:01:07 No, no, no, I do one. Hey, man, I'm a Maverick. If you can't handle me... Hart McCain. I love it, John McCain. Yeah. Come on in. You can't keep me in a box. Come in, Steve Nash.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Love a Maverick. The word is Jason. Now, just Jason. I'll give you some... Not the Jason you're thinking of. I have to... I was thinking of how to word this correctly because I can't give the guy's real name, but I used to go to university with a guy
Starting point is 00:01:29 who had an alias for a while called Jason when he was going, out to meet women. He'd pretend his name was Jason. There wasn't even his real name. Okay. However, Jason, yeah, Jason on the final year of university, we went out on his birthday, had a great night as far as I was concerned. The next day, I woke up to a friend of mine who had to put him Jason to bed because he was so drunk.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And when he came and told the rest of us, guys, you're not going to believe what Jason did. He shit the bed. He literally shit the bed. Oh, wow. My long way to saying a lot of teams shit the bed, guys. Okay. Yeah. And we only peed the bed. So, we only wet the bed.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We only wet the bed. We didn't shit the bed. By the way, actually, I've got a funny, can I give you, are we, this tiny diversion, but we're talking. This is the show, yeah. Who noticed that Jason had done what he had done. Uh-huh. He told me once he was sleeping next to a girl, and he'd had too many drinks, and he did wet the bed, but only on his side of the bed.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So he's like, how do I get away with this? So quickly he said to her, can wait for her to go to the bathroom when she did. He ran into the kitchen, got some orange squash. She's kind of like orange cheese. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a fanta. And then he threw it over his side of the bed. When she came in, he goes, I just spilled those of orange squash all the way of it to this day. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So that's a smooth criminal right there. That's the Premier League summed up. End of podcast. That's that Roll Safe meme where they go, hmm. You see? If you throw orange soda on top of the pit. now that how can now it smells like orange piss
Starting point is 00:03:05 you know that was pissed man he should have doubled down me like hey I think your orange squash went off man this shit smelled like piss too so I don't know man what's wrong with your fridge orange and pest flavored I forgot I got orange and piss flavored
Starting point is 00:03:22 I mean yeah just to put it lightly I don't think you'll be hearing from me after this okay Jamel Johnson how about you three to However many, what's, tell me how you feel. Well, first off, you know, this just reminded me that I'm called Ronnie on Uber. My name is Ronnie on Uber.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Wait for real. You have an Uber. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I forget it every time. I use Lyft more than Uber. Well, you can put any name in there? You could in 2014.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Now, you're sure. But when they started it, you're assaulting Uber drivers under a, under a pseudonym. This goddamn Ronnie, you said Robbie or Ronnie? Ronnie. I'm being in the back of Uber's under the alias Ronnie.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Wow. Which sort of connects to my phrase to describe the week. Life on the road. Life on the road. Hey, B. Remember that? Tenacious D song. The road is fucking hard.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It's tough, man. I've been on the road. I don't even know how long. I feel like the last three shows I haven't been in my house. We have been on the road collectively as a pod. And being on the road fucking stinks, man. You don't know where everything is. Yeah, the Uber drivers, they don't believe your name is Ronnie.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah. They're never at the spot. You told them to pick up that. You're not telling him you're Ronnie Adrian, right? The other black comedian. No, Ronnie, hey, we love you, man. We're not trying to do that to you. But I do that.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I tell people I'm Ronnie. But they say I'm too short to actually. He's saying he's Ronnie Chang. Yeah. It's just confusing the hell out of Uber Johnny. They're like, I don't know. He said Ronnie Chang, but he. How are you not going to believe me?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. You know what I think? The TV makes me look more Asian than I am in real life. Listen, road work's been tough for Arsenal and everybody, but soon it will be over. Yeah, yeah, soon it will be over. For me, like I said, relief, but also stasis. Kind of looking at it, we're like, you know, normally when we're thinking about what we're going to talk about, not that we'll ever have nothing to say, but narratively, everything's kind of stayed the same.
Starting point is 00:05:28 like Tottenham still in crisis. Liverpool still misfiring. Chelsea, still figuring it out. Arsenal still top of the league. Everyone's losing, dropping points at the same time, fine. But let's get into it because at the top of the show, and I think one of the most, the more exciting matches of the weekend was the Manchester Derby, Manchester United, hosting Manchester City.
Starting point is 00:05:52 We got fucking two goals from our boy Brian and Bumo and my boy, Patrick Dorgoo the most handsome, most capable-looking man I've ever seen in the press. Never doubted him. The thing is, Dorgoo is actually a very good thing to be. When I said someone has never looked more like their name, I'm like, oh, he's Dorgoo. And that means good. That means he's very good.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He's very good. He damn good. Door good, as we say, in Denmark. But two goals. I think this was one of those, it's funny, right now I was just looking at talking to Spurs supporters. They're like trying to figure out their manager and they're kind of doing the same. Like, why don't we have like this kind of player to manager pipeline that these other teams do? Because like you. So because they looked at this result. They got Michael Carrick on the bench.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You know he got into their asses and said, this is the fucking Manchester Derby. I don't give a fuck what happened before this. If you go out there and fucking embarrass me, I'm going to beat the shit out of you. Um, and they played with their fucking heads on fire. I was, it was really, they look, I mean, they looked. I mean, they looked so up for it. I'm a little bit concerned that that's our next match. The Premier League. It's different now. Well, good thing we don't fucking go over there. Yeah, yeah, for sure. At Old Trafford, thank God we won there
Starting point is 00:07:07 already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think there's also, like, I think with Michael character, that's also one of those, that was the rivalry pre-city becoming really big, was always us and United. And I feel like that is another thing. He might be able to open up the history books and try, either way, I'm not
Starting point is 00:07:23 worried, but I'm just saying they might come through and try and keep the shit out of us because It's what they looked like they were doing it with Sid. Hey, listen, I was weirdly happy for United. Only because Manu was on the field, man. I'm the number four Kobe Mayno supporter beside probably his like
Starting point is 00:07:39 brother-in-hast brother. Yeah, yeah. I'm right behind them. It was good to see him out there. And shocking to see Holland get pulled. When early Holland got pulled, he was so crazy. Pep couldn't even, he wasn't even in the coach's box. He was like up in the stand.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 80th minute he comes off for Devine Mukasa, the young man. Then that was really something. I mean, Holland has blanked for too many matches now. No open play goals in like seven games, I think. Is that what it is seven games then? Yeah, he doesn't score. They don't generally win, right?
Starting point is 00:08:15 It's kind of what it is. Yeah, I mean, apart from when they won 10-0 against Exeter, but no one really cares about that. And that was, but even then he didn't score, remember? He didn't score in that game, yeah. And that was one of those things where they were like, you know, it's like that scene in Jurassic Park where they feed the T-Rex. And they're like, look at this goat chained to a fucking pole, man.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Have at it. Like real low effort. Just fucking get it in, son. And he still couldn't do it. No, he could. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, even Gokores scored in, in that time period. By fucking brute force.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I thought he was a fucking break that in his luck. Yeah. I did check his YouTube channel to see if that, if there's any evidence you can find. And he, eight days ago, did film a video about his dad said he could become a professional golfer. What do you reckon?
Starting point is 00:09:02 So I imagine he's been playing too much golf. Newhouse. He's not wanting me to be a pro golfer. You got to let us know in the thread. We're slipping. We usually catch every Harlan. No, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:13 It's, do you know what? He's definitely better at scoring when he goes in disguise as his videos. Like when he's dressed up for Halloween or a Santa. He just dresses himself here. So I feel like he needs to do some sort of like, always. To the cosplay.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. Get back to the cosplay. He activates it. Ehrling, put the fucking football down, bro. Come through to Comic Con. You know what I mean? Dress like your favorite fucking V-tuber or, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:41 anime girl. You know what I mean? And just live your life. You got beautiful hair. You got the build of like a big-ass anime, like heroin. Get it in, bro. You don't need to do this soccer shit anymore. Just fucking, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You know, live your best life. Yeah, so he's not been cosplaying enough, not scoring. I will say, though, Mbuemo, straight out of Afcon, what a finish that was. Yeah, that was a fucking, tasty one. I was watching that with my son, and I was like, he go, what's he going to be his first touch? How far is he going to get? And he just took it. He surprised the goalie and myself with a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And how did your two-year-old respond? How do you think you go? What do you think he'll do with this? He was like, ooh. He just went. What do you think? What do you think? More blueberries.
Starting point is 00:10:21 That's all he said. All he ever asked for. More blueberry. Dude, that finish was so tidy. It was so efficient. It's like one of those things where I'm like, oh, you're on the wrong team. You're on the wrong team.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I know that that chunky bum we want on our team. You can't get the ball off me. We're so sturdy, but I'm hard. But do you think Dallow should have been sent off, by the way? Should have been, right? Yeah, probably. That's a real home decision, that one, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 When you're coming studs all over the place. Yeah, it felt like usually If that, look, if that was our player Coming in like that, I feel like we're like, I would be like, fuck, here we go. That's red. The AR this season have gone like, it is better that they overturn less stuff
Starting point is 00:11:06 But they've gone so, they're so like Scared to overturn anything now. Yeah. It was like, they're just on field. We'll go on field. I guess you could, yeah, it's this weird little Northwest Referees Club where they don't want to have to get
Starting point is 00:11:21 bantered in the pub off. or something. Yeah. No. Yeah. But it ended up being being a great result for United and the parrick mate,
Starting point is 00:11:28 gets the club, passion of the club, passion of the club. And they're top four right now. What the fuck? Damn. Hey, look, good for them.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Good for them. You know, look, we love when you guys are good. You know what I mean? It helps us feel better when we beat the shit out of y'all. They're like a friend with bad posture
Starting point is 00:11:48 who you don't realize is quite tall for like seven years. Damn. Now you're like, well, you're like 5, 7 and they're like, no, dude, I'm like 6-1. I just 6-8. Yeah. I just spend too much time. I just look at my phone a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Sorry, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I'm Asian. I make myself small culturally. It's like a bad thing. It manifests physically for me. That's where my fucking shoulders almost touch in the front. Speaking of Michael Carrick, his backroom staff causing some problems. And I want your perspective, Chris, because Jonathan Woodgate is part of the backroom staff.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And a lot of people are like, bro, this guy was involved in a, fucked up attack many years ago. And then some people were like, well, the court dropped the charges so like it's really not that big of a deal. What the fuck happened? I was like him and Lee Boyer or something shit? Yeah, wasn't it a fray? We used that fray.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a fray. And is that like a group fight without weapons? Is that what a fray is? When it's just like five people kind of like Royal Rumble style? Those are most British fights are kind of that style. It's kind of causing a scene, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. But then was it racially
Starting point is 00:12:51 motivated is anything that I can't. It was in a nightclub in Leeds. A student was left unconscious with a broken cheekbone, broken nose, fractured leg, bite marks on his face and a wound on the back of his head after a group including several Leeds United players had attacked him. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:07 he bit him last too. Yeah, yeah. Now you're biting them? They said, yo, Jonathan's nasty. He's going to bite him. He'll get him. He don't even throw punches. He plays a bite. He just comes in. He comes in for a snack at the end. I do fucking Jamel just to look like a human pack man. I've been knocked out a lot in fights, bro,
Starting point is 00:13:27 because my hands are down. I'm just trying to bite. Really bad fighting tactic. But yeah, so I remember that was like, I just saw a lot of other fans being like Jonathan Woodgate is disgusting, but then people were defending him because they're like, well, he was convicted of a fray. But I cleared of grievous bodily harm.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, he went, that was early in his career, right? He then went to Rayleigh Jus for a season and then, like, he was injured the whole season and they just kicked him out. That was such a wild saying. He said, like, O.G. Ronaldo was just, was a good laugh. He was, basically, he was injured a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:06 It sounded like him and Ronaldo went out a lot. That was, yeah. We're not causing a fray by the sounds of it. I mean, he's probably, he was probably eating more than just random legs of victims. That was such a wild period because that's like the latter day true Galacticos. So you have fucking Jonathan Woodgate
Starting point is 00:14:25 is playing with Raul Ronaldo Fico Zidan. Yeah. And you guys Based off the Real Madrid news now, that doesn't like really, it's not going to help and beat the allegations. They get to do whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:40 If you play for Real Madrid, there's no rules. It came nowhere over there. You see bro the fucking fans now, they brought the white handkerchiefs out. whistling, they're booing the fucking players. And the club, the club's official TV came out and they're like, if you're not fucking with the club, that you was never
Starting point is 00:14:55 a fucking supporter. So knock that, they're really doing that shit. They're like, if you boo, you're actually not a supporter. Amazing. So it's fucking knock it off. There, and it's, God, what a fucking disaster that place is too. But I've no idea how good he is as a coach would get. He's just
Starting point is 00:15:11 someone put a video up, I did see of him doing a TikTok dancer's daughter and was like, I can't believe this guy's coaching United, but I mean... Was he any good? No, it's pretty bad. It was pretty bad. But, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I don't know if it had been good if that would have changed my opinion on whether that means he's a good guy, sure not. A good person and maybe didn't beat the shit out of the student. But him and Steve Holland, right, from Roy Hodgson's England. Yeah. Who was apparently... It's very hard to know if United are good or they just got up for the Derby because of the passion of the passion of the Carrick.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. I think... I will say this about Carrick, so I mean, it's kind of... But the thing about character was, the end of the game, I thought he was very, he was so in a very good, he was rather than crazy, he was just extremely calm and, which is, I would imagine, annoyed PEP even more, but like, he acted so like, well, yeah, I knew he was notchalant, not which is impressive.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, no, I think, look, that was gangster, credit to him, although, you know, for, I hate, I just hate Michael Carrick, because he played for Spurs before United, and I will never, I'll never forget, because I'm unwell as a person. as Chris knows I booed a random man on the side of the road oh shit this is the funny
Starting point is 00:16:20 this is so funny man Miles kindly gave me we went to Cosm to watch the the exciting nil nill drill of Arsenal Forest and we're driving up my street above Hollywood
Starting point is 00:16:31 and I'm like oh is that a Liverpool fan I don't want to see Liverpool fan yeah and then we get closer and then we get closer that guys it was like a 60 year old man and he was like
Starting point is 00:16:40 the guy must have been like 60 and he learned a forest shirt and I was a little bit of a forest shirt and I was a little bit of a little bit of a forest shirt and I was a little bit of a little bit of a little. I was like, as a forest fan, what are the chances? And I said, hold up. Get back. Let me roll my window down.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Let me roll my window down. He back the car up? No, I fucking hit the brakes and I, I fucking, I made sure this motherfucker hurt. You hung in a horn. Hey, hey. I went, boo! And then we just kept it moving. Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:17:02 No profanities, but sometimes, you know, you got to give people smoke when they're wearing the shirt. Man, he might have had a pacemaker or something. It's fine. It's fine, bro. I don't feel bad, buddy. My citizen app did say there was a dead old man. my street and we're looking for witnesses.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's just like it's kind of the culture. I grew up, man. Look, I used to love the Dutch national team because of Dennis Berg camp and then Robin Van Percy, whatever. And I, I've worn, I've been stupid enough to wear a Dutch jersey in the streets of Los Angeles knowing how many Mexican fans there are in this city. And let me tell you, I have been almost hit by a truck two times. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:38 By Mexican dudes catching me in that all orange kit and fucking, like, yelling about the penalty still. And I'm like, bro, come on, man. I'm not even white. I'm not even Dutch. Oh, I thought it was, they were trying to run you over due to the sort of the historical colonization of, of Mexico by Europe.
Starting point is 00:17:57 No, no, no, no. This is because I already, this is, this is the 2014 World Cup they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the modern era. So I guess, like, for me, saying boo is like, whatever, bro, it just, you know, it is what it is. I do that shit all the time when I see people wear
Starting point is 00:18:11 spurs shit or I got the Spurs bumper sticker. I give them thumbs down when I see them. They must be used to that. Yeah. Just in every facet of their life. They're doing that to themselves right now. Speaking of which, moving elegantly along Tottenham 1, West Ham
Starting point is 00:18:27 2 at the fucking toilet Tottenham Stadium. Booze rang out fucking everywhere as Calvin Wilson scored in the 93rd minute. I was talking to you about this and I went, have I imagined, have I imagined,
Starting point is 00:18:43 this. Was Callum Wilson no longer a player where... That would sum up spurs how bad they are that a player who's not even on the roster managed to score. I hadn't fully imagined this, but I did see a story two weeks ago on BBC Sport. He said Callum Wilson is in talks
Starting point is 00:18:59 to terminate his contract early. So this man, he doesn't even what, he's already, he's already on his sabbatical or something. He's on paid leave. He's not even supposed to be playing. A terrible run of games for Tottenham, right? They lost a Bournemouth who I think hadn't won
Starting point is 00:19:15 in 11 matches and a person who's literally got a foot out the door fucking scores the game winner and now we're, I think the same thing has happened here. I think West Ham had it won in 10 or something. Yeah. And did they just won by with a player that you're now saying has a foot out the fucking door?
Starting point is 00:19:32 I love it. And look, if you have somebody who, uh, they're like, they're like a make a wish. They're like a charitable organization Toddham. They're like, look, man, are you, are you terminally not winning? He's not through our house. I'm not, he's not house and we will have you over and you can smack the shit out of us in front of our fans. Come through.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It sucks, man for them. Yeah, yeah. For relegation-bound teams. They should consider moving to a different sport. Maybe they should try a handball as a whole thing. Tottenham handball spurs. Tottenham handball. Tottom hand spurs.
Starting point is 00:20:08 God, the booze were fucking out of control. Like it was like, I'm even trying to, I'm trying to think of the last time I heard booing like that. It was pretty intense to have the entire stadium booing your coach, your players. And now I think everyone thought he was going to get sack. As this recording, this is Monday, January 19th, just the photos of fucking Thomas Frank strolling into practice. And apparently he had a meeting with the hierarchy of Tottenham. And they're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Let's keep going. He's had a lot of injuries. to be semi-adjective in the attacking area, which you do, as an Arsenal fan, actually, I will say from last season, I do think, like, people,
Starting point is 00:20:54 anyone who's not supporting your team thinks injuries aren't like a, yeah, you've got to cope with it, but like certain big injuries make a massive difference. So no Madison, no Kulosevsky, no, Sri Lanky until just now. Yeah, so that is a big factor
Starting point is 00:21:08 why they're not very good attacking. But having said that, the Spurs fans are not even being understanding. I think it's the fact that spurs are always pretty bad, but they can sometimes be quite exciting and bad. But if it was bad and drab, at least under Ange,
Starting point is 00:21:20 they were like, this is kind of ridiculous, but it's kind of, well, I think probably all want Ange right now instead of him. They got the job. Right, right. It's sort of like,
Starting point is 00:21:28 I feel like we were doing this, like when we were exiting Highbury and entering the full banter years where there were still some players who played on the Invincibles team that led us to believe that that was still the team on some level. We're like, with Duberto, you know, and Colo Torre, you know, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:21:47 and holding on to that, no fucking Viera, no fucking Henri. There was a lot of shit missing that I think this is sort of the same thing where the highs of like the Pach era, that sort of standard has allowed the fans to, like, still think like that's where they're at. And no shade. That was a very, y'all were fucking really, you were fucking really good and way better than us at the time. but I think the lack of objectivity,
Starting point is 00:22:13 like this is what happens. This is a broader question. Who do you think the next club is going to be that's really going to stick with their manager? Do you think Tottenham will do that with Thomas Frank? Because to get past this shit, you really got to fucking cycle out the wrong players and bring in the right ones.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And you need a couple years. But if I was a fan of Tottenham, I have to imagine everything Thomas Frank did would piss me off. Like even when they scored, he hit the Howard Dean. he just hit a little and even that was like I want him gone
Starting point is 00:22:45 get him out of here goofy ass celebration what the fuck is that you're pulling up with Arsenal espressoes and stuff yeah yeah yeah I just don't know but truth with I think Chelsea
Starting point is 00:22:53 Chelsea will probably be the team I wouldn't just yeah this doesn't come through man yeah maybe they want to but they always end up if he doesn't if he doesn't get it done
Starting point is 00:23:03 they will lose if the fan once the fans do this you're pretty you're pretty screwed I'm trying to think if Artetta, if the fans were like this when they had, Arsenal had that really bad run. They weren't, I don't think. They were, it started to get up a little.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I mean, that was the beginnings of people really being like Artetta out, like the Artetta out crew came. Because a lot of those fans, too, completely impatient and completely lack the perspective, I think of the fans who have been supporting the team for much longer periods of being like, no, no, no, like this is, this looks like shit, but this is good. Like, we are shedding. our old fucking reptile skin right now. And it looks ugly as fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But there's something coming through that you can tell. And a lot of people are just thinking, why aren't we fucking, why aren't we in fucking first place already? This guy who came from fucking pep coral. When you started that analogy, I could imagine Artetta has given an exact thing. We shed guys.
Starting point is 00:23:57 We shed the skin. And then a beautiful baby snake will emerge, guys. Guys, he comes in, just rolls out a big ass anaconda skin like the movie. in front of the squad Oh shit Guys anacondas
Starting point is 00:24:12 are the most ferocious killing machine They have key sensors in the water They strike Hold you tighter And you through love And the power of the embrace causing your veins to explode That's the monologue
Starting point is 00:24:25 John Voigt gave in anaconda actually But I did as Mikkelartre Yeah that's fantastic And then you're gonna have And then Ezza is going to be like Gaffa I don't think snakes butt And he goes
Starting point is 00:24:36 they don't. Yeah. Touches his fucking big ass juggler scar. And the mic drop. He just leaves. Yeah. They're like, what the fuck was that?
Starting point is 00:24:45 And then Jennifer Lopez appears and it's like, damn. He's intense. What the fuck? What's Owen Wilson doing here? He got the whole cast in here. Owen Wilson was in this shit. This is a comedy.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Owen is a good friend of mine. I get coaching tips from Owen. Guys. I saw him in the TV show Stick. And I thought this guy knows. He knows about it. Him and a I saw something in him.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Guys, guys, this is why I bring Owen here, guys. He is underrated, underrated as a writer. No one knows that he is a good writer. Bottle Rocky, he did with his brother, Luke,
Starting point is 00:25:21 put him on the map, doing other things, okay? This is Owen Wilson. They think he just go, oh, wow. No, thank you for doing that
Starting point is 00:25:29 because I was like, am I going to do the home Wilson? I was like trying to, I was trying to psych myself up. Wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Oh, Arsenal. Wow. Champions like, wow. Wow. But anyway, Spurs. I don't know, man. How long do you reckon? He is going to get fired, right?
Starting point is 00:25:50 There's no, once everyone. I hope they beat Dortmund and we just keep going. Thomas Frank said, he made a quote. He said, I've never been in a situation. And they said, hey, tomorrow you win? Great. Tomorrow you lose? Fine.
Starting point is 00:26:06 that's how he was discussing his conversation with the board about the Dorman match. So I'm like, I don't know because look, at the end of the day, he is a good manager, but it will take time to see the Thomas Frank version of Spurs. And right now this is just like the ugly part in like the fly where you're like mid-metamorphosis. Guys, I want to show you David Cronenberg, Bobby Horror. Yeah. All right. Anything else?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Yeah, that's it. What kind of podcast can get extremely detailed and a conversation. references linked into Thomas Frank's tenure. Not many. Guys. Come on. Guys.
Starting point is 00:26:43 This is the phone. Eligible, man. This is what we do. Just wait till next year, bro. We're going to be sitting there vaping with Leonardo DiCaprio and smoking cigarettes with Sean Penn. Right there, baby. You know what I mean? Moving on, speaking to another team that's booing their manager.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And, you know, but definitely not in the same situation. Liverpool, Burnley. This one, again, at home. one one all. We got a goal from Florian Vert's. Really nice goal inside the box. And then Marcus Edwards scored in the 65th minute to level things.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Liverpool looked better offensively. I'll say that. They look like offensively. I'm like, oh, okay, there you go. There you go. Defensively? Now you're starting, I think, having to make some decisions about
Starting point is 00:27:37 who's an old dog that you might have to, you know, move on. They're trying to replace a lot of their defense. I think they're trying to. Yeah. Because Kanati's going. Virgil's still Virgil's still good
Starting point is 00:27:48 but he's definitely older so then you Good leader to have yeah for sure and I think they don't and I don't think I don't think either their full
Starting point is 00:27:53 I think their fullbacks are great either to be honest but um no I mean Andy Robertson is well past the age curve the perform the we know that fall off
Starting point is 00:28:02 has already begun fully like three seasons ago he's getting the football equivalent of a free bus ride yeah yeah once you hit 33 you're like
Starting point is 00:28:11 you're an old piece of shit it's just like that guy's He's 60 younger than me. Yeah. Kirk has looks better. He gets, he's getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:28:21 It's not like how it was like in fucking October or November or when you're like, oh, boys. What's going on here? Yeah. Playing in the Premier League seems hard as fuck. And the fans have these crazy expectations. It's like,
Starting point is 00:28:33 seems that way. Yeah. The fans are like, what the hell? Why are we ever losing? He's like, guys, new manager,
Starting point is 00:28:41 new system. Half the team is new. What the fuck do you think is going to happen? honestly, if I'm a Liverpool pen, I'm like, hey, at least Verst is scoring. We're not getting relegated and when Vertes is finally firing. We'll figure it out. I think it's just also the past few results have just been like, you know, Burnley. They probably felt they could win, maybe even that Fullum match.
Starting point is 00:29:02 They thought they could win. They drew nil-nill, the leads. I think it's like, it feels more like an accumulation of the last, you know, maybe six matches or so. And they're like, what the fuck? And I, and you know, of course, you just won the league last year, so the frustrations are going to boil, like, really boil over pretty hard. And the Vertz looks, that finish was, and he's on,
Starting point is 00:29:24 short backlift, he smashed it that hard. I'm like, all right. So they've got an interesting, in a couple, I think it's not next week of the week. They've got, um, their hosting city. And I bat Liverpool to win that, actually. I just think they're like, they got like, they did a good, that game against Bernie. They would have won that any other 99 times ever. They got like a 2.96 extra.
Starting point is 00:29:43 to a, you know, I mean, like, they had two shots cleared off the line. So I feel like they've turned the corner. It's just frustrating for the fans, but I, if any Liverpool fans are listening to this, I don't know why you would be. But if you are, I do think, they do.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I do think you'll be, you're looking pretty in a couple of weeks' time, especially when you get Mo back and, yeah, it turns out. How does he feel? Well, yeah, we'll see. I feel like Verts is, Verts is informed because he's gone.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Maybe. That's, I mean, that'll be. the real question is to see what the reintegration of Mosala will be like because it was he was making such a stink before that that it felt like thank God that one co-worker who's always complaining
Starting point is 00:30:25 but makes the most fucking money is going on about. What you mean while I'm out here fucking eating shit getting all kinds of fucked up comments on my Instagram saying my eyes are too close together I can't help that on Milos Kirkaz anyway
Starting point is 00:30:41 he got better guys are like in a when Snoop Dog turns into a dog He got that type of look. Oh nice. Like mid, mid a dog.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That's that. When we have, when Snoop turned into that Doberman, we all remember for people of a certain age. Here's my question for you both. Is it possible for Liverpool fans to ever turn on Virgil? Could things get so bad that they would turn on Virgil Vandau? They're,
Starting point is 00:31:09 they've definitely identified him as the weak link for sure. I don't know about burning, you know, because he's not, he's, he's pretty much the club. He's like the best centerback they've ever. He's like, I think he's one of the greatest centerbacks in the history. And the Premier League for sure. Yeah, definitely. Especially at his best, at his best.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, saying goodbye to the legends is always tough. You just got to, you just got to put him in a home. Yeah. Heartless. I mean, like, how often do the legends really go, hey, I'm not, I'm going to be real, bro. I am hooked. They never do that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They always fucking, they need like three seasons of being totally cooked or they go, I might be cooked. And I get it. You're a fucking competitor and you've played so many seasons. You're like, maybe that was an off season. I'm going to come back harder this next one. Trust me, even though my body is aging rapidly. Unless you're Timo Werner.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You get that San Jose earthquakes call and now you know. That's the funniest image, Timo Verner with the San Jose Earthquakes kit unveiling. I'm like, that's actually a good idea. If you think a play is just a bit past it as the coach and you don't know how to get rid of, you just do a group text to every MLS team and go, guys, hey out my boy. America's come calling.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Right. Because you would probably blow their mind if last year Arnestlott's like, y'all want Virgil Van Dyte over there at the Galaxy? People would be like, what? He's ready? And they're like, well, he's not ready for over here. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But I mean, again, still so good that he'll, he's still, he'll be fine, I'm sure. But yeah, Liverpool turning the corner. Good to see. Not a total disaster. Not soon enough, though. Yeah. Oh, the other thing, though, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:51 Where do you think Jabi Alonzo is going to end up? Because right now, we're talking, we were just talking about Spurs. People are like, their fans are praying for Javi. No way. I'm like, yeah, you can't do that. You know Javi, like, knows ball, right? He can't, he's not, he's not Thomas Frank, who's like, I would like to go closer. I would like to go to Zone 1.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah. If you're Javi, you can't go from a private school of all fucked up entitled spoiled kids to an insane public school where nobody knows how to read. Give me something regular, please. Yeah. And then my one boy, James, also a spur supporter. What's up, James?
Starting point is 00:33:34 You might be listening. He was like, man, he's like, I'm not doing great. I'm hoping we get Jabi Alonzo. I'm like, yeah. You're not doing great. I get that, bro. That would be cool. And that's what you would need is you would want someone with that clear vision.
Starting point is 00:33:48 However, you need the entire boardroom, get the fuck out of the way and be like, what you need? Don't you think like, so look at Carrick. So I predict that Carrick will do really well and they'll keep him longer. And then it'll probably not do very well. Yeah. But like, but these bigger clubs, I do think it helps when there's the modern coach, There's like, so Artetta, I don't think, would still have been at Arsenal if he wasn't an ex-Arson player. Do you mean?
Starting point is 00:34:15 He would have had no connection to fans, so you can't ride out that storm that Thomas Franks in. They don't know. He's just a, he's just a Danish guy who, he's the walking dead. He looks like he's been dead the whole time. So he's a dead man walking. You know what I mean? But they don't have any connection to him. They say he got soccer mom here.
Starting point is 00:34:32 That's what they call it. That's what they say about Thomas Frank. He's dad with your soccer mom. Like white American soccer mom, Karen hair. Yeah, yeah. So he's got no connection, but I'm just trying to think of like what thing you need like
Starting point is 00:34:46 what ex-player is also a good coach? He don't want to go. Michael Carrick. Yeah, I mean, that's ironic. I think that could, I mean, I don't think it's going to happen, but imagine Michael Carrick,
Starting point is 00:34:56 they find their long-term shiny manager at United that they bring in Carrick's out of a job, but does a great job with United enough that maybe Spurs are like, shit, man, maybe we fucking give Michael Carrick a shot. But that would be also such, such a fucking risk.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah, it's funny. My brain, I was about to go, I reckon in like five years, Modrich will be a coach and at Tottenham. But then I realized the issue with that is, once they've gone to Madrid, once they've been in Madrid for 10 years, he's going to go to Philippin Totnam after that.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Not even the club, just the neighborhood is rubbish. They need someone, yeah. They need someone who will treat Tottenham, like how Jabby Alonzo treated Leverkusen. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah, yeah, let me thug it out here, get my name up, and then once I fucking do it, then I will leave you.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Trust me, I will leave you so fucking quick for Spain. Aaron Lennon. Is he managing? No, but it's just, it just be really funny. I feel like, yeah. So fast for us. Is Lettley King a manager? I feel like, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Give a good black manager. I think Ledley King's a coach, actually. Is he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who else could be? Letting is a great shout, by the way. Led the King's a great defender. Great defender. And one of the few players,
Starting point is 00:36:14 Tierra Leroy's least favorite defender to come in. I think, I was like, you're being Henri, but he wouldn't lie about that shit. He was like, no, bro. This dude was strong as fuck. And so, oh, with that to say, do you think maybe Jabi ends up at Liverpool? Because that felt like the real easy move was to go from Yergen to Jabi Alonzo. But at the time,
Starting point is 00:36:33 they were like, no, bro, he wants the Real Madrid job. So he's going to stay another year. but now it feels like what do you think? I mean, if they don't, if they don't make Europe, if they don't make like good Europe. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Good Europe. It's so true. I mean, you know, good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. So any British people listening, what you mean there is like,
Starting point is 00:37:01 that's like, good Europe would be like a nice insurailing trip. Tuesday, Wednesday nights. Tuesday, Wednesday. But then bad Europe is like a Thompson all-inclusive package holiday. Yeah. Magaloof where everyone else is British and you're like this plate, the food is shit.
Starting point is 00:37:19 What that's bad Europe. Yeah, that's bad. I thought I was going to be the only one with the fake suntan. What is this? No, mate. We're going Zanty, Zikynthas, mate. Greece. Really want to go to Zikynthas.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I've seen a lot of young British people go there. I thought that was somebody in Afcom. There was a show called. sex lies and like crying eyes or something. You know what this show? It was like kids doing spring break in Europe, but their parents were watching in a fucking hitting camera. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I watched that. It was a great show on BBC 3, I think. Yeah, yeah. It was a bro. This show was fucked up. Jamel. These kids would be whiling the fuck out drugs, alcohol,
Starting point is 00:37:57 fucking all this shit. Their parents are watching just full on dailies. Damn. Of hitting camera shit. That was a really funny episode that. I think it was in a ski resort and this like group of like, 16 year old lads or 15 year old lads. It was like five of them and it was just so like
Starting point is 00:38:11 sad seeing how mean like teenagers like one guy's like well I'm obviously like the most handsome so like you know and we're all handsome lads apart from you like Mike and then like Mike was just like this ugly dude who's just really sad he was just like I don't like you when you joke about my parents yeah
Starting point is 00:38:25 yo it was fuck it was called son sex and suspicious parents. Yes bro this shit okay damn they're killing room Raiders you know room Raiders oh Jamel I'm going to You just watch this shit on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Get high and watch this shit. You were going to fucking, this shit's going to blow your mind. Again, I love reality. I love UK culture. So I found this shit so quick when it came out. Nothing comes close in American TV to this. Because these parents are also so,
Starting point is 00:38:53 some of these parents think their kids like never drank or nothing or virgins and shit. And they're out here doing helicopters in the streets and they're like, oh fuck. Yeah. And then they got to do the thing like to catch a predator where they show up to a lunch and their whole family's there being like,
Starting point is 00:39:08 what's up, player? Yeah, you thought it was a cool thing to teabag your friend? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:14 There's only one tea bag we like in our household and it's old gray, all right? Just because your grandfather was in the Royal Air Force doesn't give you a right
Starting point is 00:39:21 to do helicopters all that, yeah? All right. Moving on, Aston Villa, Nill, Everton, one.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Man, I tried to bet on this in New Orleans. Because whenever I'm in a city where it's legal to bet, I start firing up the apps. Yep, yep, yep, yep. And I tried to be pragmatic.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I tried to bet with my mind. What is actually going to happen here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2-0. I was ready. I was like, fuck. So Bill is about this. I was looking at the results after the Arsenal game. And I was like, well,
Starting point is 00:40:00 Lassar just like, there's never been a more guaranteed win. Villa haven't lost at home since, I think Arsenal, seen them at the beginning of 20 last season? No, I think it was the first of this season. Oh, was it? Yeah, like the first match of this season, they were gone 11 unbeated game mode or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Another one, another fucking run ended out of nowhere and somehow we benefit from that. So because of that now, with Villa losing and city losing, we're still seven points clear with them on 43 points and we're on 50 points. Tierra no Barry, my guy. Mate, he's been such a funny player. But I mean, the funniest thing about that goal was that guy hadn't had a shot on target in 19 shots.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And every time you get guys one-on-one, you're like, he's going to absolutely smash this into the stand. And the most dainty, it was so d-a-it-it-it-it-was like a little little princess drinking tea with their pinky out, so dainty. And then I love a guy who never does something like that, acting as soon as he did it, it was like, it was like, it was me.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Oh, yeah, it's your boy. Yeah, dusting his shoulders off and shit. You're like, what the fuck? Tierra know. Well, I said to me, they heard the noise, man. Everybody's saying that this is a for sure villa win. And you got Everton over there. They're not in the relegation zone.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Right. When Greenlish is out there, that's like a real team. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's true, but is as Jack Reillish gained weight? He looks a little thick. He looks like he's a ponytail. Because he's putting a bandit, you know, that, he's got a really thick elastic band on that ponytail.
Starting point is 00:41:34 got that like like like I'm taking supplements gut you know what I mean like I feel like his red cage is sticking out or some shit like he's taking HGH and as he got that you know how your organs get all big that's why I fucking Joe Rogan and Elon Musk got that big ass stupid looking chest because their organs are fucking growing for how's not organs to grow when you do that organs the way they are when you when you're off that all that fucking testosterone and HGH type shit like your organs grow to the point you're fucking big is how many pounds is how many pounds is your lung.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, bro. Oh, man, got my spleen up to fucking 38 pounds, bro. Fucking sick, dog. Nobody's fucking with me. A guy had some surgery the other day. The guy was holding my pancreas, and he got a few of the doctors in to hold.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Have you felt the weight on this pancreas? This is a heavy thing. Did you see the, um, Unai Amri post match interview? I didn't. After? No.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Very odd. He's not beating the allegations that he is a sore, fucking loser. He is, dude. He is. He is so salt. I should have known, because I did, the other thing I said to you was,
Starting point is 00:42:42 I was like, well, Viller are definitely going to win. I go, but Villa, I said, Villa are not in any way in the title race, despite, even if they'd won that game, they're not in the title race. Because, yeah, we know who and I. Emory, and that guy's sheets are worse than Jason's.
Starting point is 00:42:58 He just leaving in there. He just, yeah, he just, his bed is poorly. The guy cannot. He's great for a club that's a bit below the top level who overachieve. If he has that like finish line in sight, we saw that guy sub on four defenders for four attackers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Two-nil up the half-time in games and screw the game. Oh my God. John McGinn, and this is the other thing too, right, is the injuries. That was the other thing. He don't have the depth. John McGinn went off injured in that match. Look like he just went down grabbing his fucking kneecap. And I was like, oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:43:32 for the World Cup because my wife would be very sad. Oh, yeah. And he's playing well. What's the nickname for the Scottish national team? Are they like the, what do they call it? Don't they got a nickname? Blue. Oh, they're called the Blue flames?
Starting point is 00:43:46 No, the back, hang on. Why have I got the, I should know this. My wife's going to divorce me, Scottish. Tartan Army. Tartan Army. There we go. Yeah. And also, shout out to all my Queensbridge rap fans.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Also, they're called the Brave Hearts. Okay. Okay. Jungle definitely listens to this. Hey, they call Andy Robertson horse, the booty killer. Uchi Wally Wally. Okay, anyway. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I feel like you could sing Uchi Wali with a Scottish accent and it probably sounds the same. Uchi Wally Wally Wally. We'll find out. Uchi Wali Wali Wali. Fuck my coochie. That song was wild, bro. Yeah, we were running. not in middle school, though.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yeah. But like the wild orientalist flute play and he's like, Ochi Wally Wally! Oh, man. Okay. Where the fuck are we? I don't even know. Listeners,
Starting point is 00:44:41 I hope you're enjoying it because we definitely are. You're talking about this Everton upset? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, this is the thing I want to play. This is, this is, um, Unai Amory after he's, a lot of people like, what the fuck is he trying to say?
Starting point is 00:44:53 But he's like, bro, we are not even in the, we're not even contenders for the fucking top five. This is what he said after the match. We can draw, we can win. We did a very good season until now, and today we lost. Of course, we will get balanced because we are third in the league. How important then is that reaction next week from your players?
Starting point is 00:45:14 We still be not contender to be in the top five. We are now, but we are still not being contender. What does it take then to be that, in your opinion? Because they are another team with more potential than us. Why do you think that? Right here. Thank you very much. That's weird. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:45:36 God damn, bro. Never be more glad that man does not manage my team than that weird comment. That weird, four seconds of silence. No, thank you. Just get that weird energy away from me. Oh, you don't know why. I just said five. I know five couples that have more potential than us right now.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Really? And it's like you're playing against a really good goalie. I mean, you know, Pickford had a couple big ass stops. We're huge saves, yeah. Yeah, Morgan Rogers should have scored. Which Lord knows how he even got the shit on frame. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are like, what is he saying? Is he taking a dig at the, the hierarchy at the club? Because they just sold Doniel Malin and they're like, what the,
Starting point is 00:46:16 we need fucking people. What are you trying to fucking do? On the side, no, Donio Malin wasn't even that good. He just looked like he was in training day. He looked like his name was Hector in Training Day. And I liked that.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yeah. Anyway, you're welcome, bro. We fucking, we molded him. bro, and they had to flog him because he wasn't good enough. But did great in Europe. Anyway, so he scored, I think, immediately on his debut for Roma also. I really, that's classic.
Starting point is 00:46:43 They're like, what the fuck? I'm trying to think of emotionally, so I'm just trying to get in the headspace of a amount, like, you know, same happening to Glasner at Palace. Like, oh, when he's like, they've abandoned us. Yeah, he's. People are just set, and people are just selling your best by it. I'm just like, trying to think of what in life would be the equivalent of that and how how annoying it must be to try and be like if domestically,
Starting point is 00:47:06 I was trying to like wash the dishes and then I came back and my wife had just sold the dishwasher. And then I'll use the scrubber. Got rid of that as well, mate. Have you ever worked at a place that was going out of business while you were working there? That's what it reminds me of. I used to do all kinds,
Starting point is 00:47:22 I had all kinds of jobs. I used to work in a place making custom t-shirts like with a heat press and shit on Beverly. And this lady opened this store in 2,000, 2008, like in the fucking, the recession just kicked off. And she's like, I'm going to put up hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a novelty t-shirt store. This shit was going out of business within six months.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And every day, shit was missing. She's like, I had to take one of the computers to sell them. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, that's how the customers look at the graphics they can even put on a shirt. So what I'm going to do is she's like, we can use an iPad? And I'm like, okay. Then if she wasn't re-stocking the stock, they're like, can I get this on a white shirt? I'm like, we don't have white shirt, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:59 We have a pink long sleeve. buddy yeah like that's all we got and like that's what the same shirt bro yeah they're like what the fuck how am i going to run the shirt shop when there's no shirt shop this is the shop where the real thing you're buying is the gift of imagination that's what we're telling you guys that's what we're a club a club of imagination you know uh imagine that we're performing well also before we just move on chel brannford nil and russ seniors premier league debuted in his real debut in his real debut and go so well. And we'll get to that
Starting point is 00:48:41 because that was the Carlin Cup or care about whatever the fuck we're calling it. But also, God damn, man, Brentford could have fucking won that game.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I was watching, you know, what the fuck? Sharday was weird decision. It's like, trying to square the ball when he should have shot. And then,
Starting point is 00:48:54 ah, Shade used to be my lover's rock. Exactly. Fucking with the sweetest taboo of not fucking scoring a sitter like that. How dare you? The XG and that was like,
Starting point is 00:49:04 yeah, that was a game where you're like, that's not sustainable. When you just watch a game, you are not going to, do well if that's yeah, not, not. Well, listen, Chris, it's a process, man.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They're still aging the guys. They're still aging the men. Still aging the men over there, Stanford Bridge. You got to play that clip miles, right? Yeah, LinkedIn Liam, as he's so fondly called because of his capacity to just say the, look, people were like, man, because our Ted is so cringy, bro,
Starting point is 00:49:32 all these metaphors and analyses used to motivate the players. Guys, Liam Rosinior, this shit is unforgettable whatever. Let me play this clip. A lot of people have pointed out he's kind of got a quirky management style, dude. He kind of looks his shit different. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I'm a manager or a coach. Both. Coaching is educating. Coaching is wanting to improve players on a technical and tactical level. Okay. Management is making sure that you have a strong culture, that your players have rules and regulations and you manage them in the right way.
Starting point is 00:50:09 In English, manage, if you split the two words, it's man, age. You're aging men. You know, the board love that, dog. That's bored English for sure. That's what we call motherfucking bars. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:25 He said, in English, man, you split that up. That man, he's talking like a broke hip. See, here, girl, you know, man, you break that down. That's man, hey, you feel me? And that's what I'm trying to do. He got Cole Palmer sitting in like an oak barrel. he's taking it so literally this is like
Starting point is 00:50:51 this is a Spanish oak cask that he's stewing in right now like some of our best scotches all right my God that's so funny. Hey man it's man age you know because men age yeah that's called the passage of time
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah. Fucking man. I don't even know what that means. Because he doesn't really go on to be like, I guess, you know, I'm trying to get these young guys to set them up for success. He just kind of thought he,
Starting point is 00:51:20 you know, he thought he had something. He says it. He says it. He says it to the players. Here to age you as men. And then he just doesn't talk for 15 seconds. And then he goes,
Starting point is 00:51:31 he looks around then. You just aged. We all age together, guys. Right now. 15 seconds. Did you feel it? We're now wiser. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:41 We're now better. Everybody look at your pubes right now. Everybody look at your pubes. You got a white one yet? No? No. All right, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Don't worry though. Age a little more. Just wait a little bit though. They go come in. I don't even have any yet. Don't worry, boy, they'll come in. They'll come in. Don't worry, boy.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I believe in you. Don't be embarrassed. I do feel bad. So Artetta gets, you take the stuff out of context. And it's bad. But definitely, like, some of the articles about him are there to just make it sound even more.
Starting point is 00:52:10 He doesn't wear gloves at training so the players can hear his clapping. He's got them doing Lego building. So him and Artetta definitely in the same sort of modern day thing. I don't know why. Arteta, I think he can kind of,
Starting point is 00:52:25 I'm trying to think if I wasn't an Arsenal fan, what I find it is as in hearing. I think they don't like it because it's different than the sort of like, you'll get up their asses and just fucking yell at them. and be strict and just have standards and be like Vince and Company. Did you say,
Starting point is 00:52:40 get out of their asses because of the Barry, Barry Fry clip I was playing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You put me out. We said it to you, Jimel, is that Barry Frye, Peter Bree United manager for many, many years,
Starting point is 00:52:51 just drops the F bomb. Opposite of Bartetta. Conservatively say, 52 times in about 20 seconds. And it keeps talking about getting up people's arces for the whole team. Yeah, that's fucking asses. Get out of that.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I don't know. Personally, and obviously I'm biased, but in a one-to-one comparison between Liam Roes Sr. and Arteta, I think Arteta, Arteta is a very cerebral person. And he has, if you see him talk just generally about things,
Starting point is 00:53:20 he's a pretty intellectual guy. And I get that it comes off in kind of like these painful, like substitute teacher ways. And he's like, we're going to learn about geometry today. Hold this triangle. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:31 I think for him being a player, learning from truly some of the greatest managers to have ever done it has given him a perspective of learning. It's like, okay, this motherfucker, like, he probably like, Venger, bro, did not. This motherfucker didn't give a shit. He was too fucking vibe. However vibes matter.
Starting point is 00:53:48 However, vibes matter. And that's what that matters. And then he goes to Guardiola and he's like, this shit is a little too military. I think, like, let me find my own weird version. So I don't know. Yeah, Resinger feels like when they said, we want McKill Artetta and they said,
Starting point is 00:54:02 we got McHill Artetta at home. And then you got man age. And you don't have cool drawings of a heart and a light bulb and shit holding the pants. On the side, no, you're not off base. I was listening to an interview with Oxley, Chamberlain where he said Artetta was the one who made a Vangar, like, breakdown film. Like, Vangor would watch film.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah, he was like, yo, we need a tape. Yeah. He's like, uh, what else do we do it? We've got like 23 hours of the day. where we don't do anything apart from the train. I guess we could watch them. Yeah. I'd rather vibe it out.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But I'll be interested to see how they do. I do think the difference is Arteta has a gravitas to him. I don't think Rosiniya has. Like a, like a scariness, I guess, for lack of a better time. I think, yeah. But we'll see. He's a fucking freak on the touchline. And also coming out, coming off of Guardiola's bench is doing a lot of lifting for him too.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, then the reputation proceeds you because you've worked, like, as his right hand. So you are, you know, you're kind of like Kirkland's signature of Wardiola to people. But we'll see then, so Chelsea, yeah, a 2-0 win, a good win. But I will, let's see where they're at in five games. Because in the opposite way to Liverpool, who I think drew, but I think looked good. I think they somehow won 2-0 and didn't, that's not just that.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Chelsea's defense. Yeah. I've heard this somewhere else, but they were like, I think it was maybe on Arsenal Vision or something. They were like, they've just bought attackers, like so many wingers, because I think they get good resale value when you resell them. They just haven't bought any good defenders, but they are trying to buy this guy Jeremy Jacket, which is a great name. Yeah, that's a pretty
Starting point is 00:55:40 good name for a defender, yeah. Jeremy Jacket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get zipped up. Is this spelled like CQ, EU, E T? J-A-J-A-Q-U-E-T. It'd be great if it was just linked with it as well. But anyway, we'll see. But again, if you just buy young defenders, it's not the way.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Any, we'll see how they do. We'll see. Well, yeah, because I mean, like, fast forward or rewind to the Caribout Cup where we beat them three, two. And, man, I mean, like, again, defensively, they weren't looking great. Like, the goals we scored were fine. The fucking Zuba Mendie goal. Bro, the way he sat Wesley Fafana's ass down was so funny.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Like, just with a quick lift, I might shoot it. No, I'm keeping it moving. And the way he was just like, roop. Yeah. And so angry at himself, I'm like, yeah, that's, those are not the standards for sure. You can't be getting sold a fake shot like that. That goes another talk about the XG not being hit. I think Arsenal, that felt like a 4-1 game that ended up being 3-2.
Starting point is 00:56:41 And so they'll have a sniff Chelsea going into the second leg, but I think Arsenal will win it. But somebody will talking about, are we fully, have we moved on to this now? Are we sort of pivoting from? Yeah, I think so with a little bit of time we have left. I think we could talk about the Carl. I'm still called Carlin Cup. And also, because we do need to get to that Afghan.
Starting point is 00:57:01 The Rumbolo's Cup. Yeah. But yeah, no, I thought that was a game where I was like, oh, Arsenal looked really good away from her. First time they'd won semifinal in eight attempts, I think, or something crazy like that, or maybe that's... Yeah. But it's a weird game because you're like,
Starting point is 00:57:15 outplayed them, played really well, scored three goals, their goalie looked crap. Arsenal looked dominant. And then they've got a sniff, though. Even if it's 3-1, I think it's game. I think it's tie over, but they get an early goal in the next leg, Chelsea,
Starting point is 00:57:30 than this game on, but I still think Arsenal will win pretty comfortably. Marino had a chance to end it. That was an insane. Robert Sanchez is so weird. Two of the most terrible bits of goalkeeping, and then he pulls out an insane save off that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And I don't understand how Marino didn't get to start at Forrest based off that. I'm putting Marino up top. Hey, he almost ended the tie for us. He gives a striker. You got to give him, he needs a couple minutes up there. I think it's because we are so desperate to get guys. The confidence to really get him firing.
Starting point is 00:58:03 They're like, okay, baby, you had that one where you desperately smashed in that goal after Sanchez flat handed it. So now, come on now. Well, I think Yonka is actually away from him as a good option because he runs hard and runs, like, you know, the channels and stuff. But then I just think of Forrest, him, Madaweke and Martinelli's three sprinters, right? Where you want at least one, you want a trossard in there or a Bacayo. or like you said, Jamel, if you put Marino there
Starting point is 00:58:31 to drop in and the other two run beyond, that feels more, I don't know why he did that against Ballamiff as well. I'll take three
Starting point is 00:58:36 sprinty players and not one ball handler. I don't know if that's him obviously thinking about like inter, but obviously we can draw the next two matches and we'll still be in the top two in the Champions League.
Starting point is 00:58:47 So there's a bit of a cushion there, but I think also the United tie too. Like after seeing what the fuck they were doing, I'm like, you know, this is going to be, we're going to have to fucking really step it up. And even after that, we had a bunch of chances at 4th, man.
Starting point is 00:59:01 We had our chances. All of the commentary that I heard was people were so disappointed. Like, Charles Watts was like, aside, I'd never seen Charles Watts be so upset and disappointed. I think it's because of the nature of, and Chris, we were talking about this after the match was we haven't won in so long and we're so desperate to that when we have these moments to ease our anxiety, we're like, well, fuck, bro, maybe if we can go nine points, clear, I can feel a little bit better about this shit. sleep at night. But keep in mind, the titles we've won have not been runaway successes. Like in 2002, that shit happened on the penultimate game of the season that we won that league. So it's not like, I think people have like this weird recency bias of seeing Citi just fucking beat the fuck out of everybody and win the league like 10 points clear and shit and think that's the norm.
Starting point is 00:59:49 And unfortunately, because we're misfiring offensively, it's going to be tighter. We just don't, we're not able to be as clinical as we would like to be to fucking. I mean, is this point, 12 points clear we could have been. Yeah, yeah, it's funny. Even if Arsenal were like, like 15 points clear, people like, I don't trust it. But I think at the moment, it looks like the league's going to be one with like a really low total, like 80 points or something. But yeah, the United game would be an interest. It would be interesting what it does, because I think against Inter, the reason he rested those players like, Sacker and Tross.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I was like, all right, Inter, we're going to go hard at them and United. But if I was, this is me of being scared, I'm like, just not throw the inter game, but just, rotate heavily there. Because United are going to be doing the thing you always talk about my as the prison. They've got Arsenal in the prison cell pinned up on the wall.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, doing their little calisthetic push-ups, ready to battle. If go away to Inter with the same team you then play with on the Sunday. I don't think that's, that's not what I did. No, and watch. He's going to do that shit.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I really, my main concern is I want to see as a start that game. Yeah. That's as a time. Please. Yeah, yeah, for real, for real. And then City won 2-0 against Newcastle. that's really not a surprise.
Starting point is 01:00:59 The worst, longest VAR decision of all time, by the way, which even, I was like, what do we just give the goal? Just come on. I think they actually,
Starting point is 01:01:08 the semi-automated thing broke, which is great. It's great. The one must be millions of dollars spent on. Why does it take it? I just checked my pubs. I got a white one, man. I'm aging,
Starting point is 01:01:20 bro. Go on, blow the whistle. And God, we got to touch on this before we go. The Afghan final, Morocco versus Senegal. Senegal won. Sadio Manet is now won it twice.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Fucking absolute legend now. I mean, prior to this, he was, but now fully, like, in terms of African footballers, Sadio Mani, Sadi O'Mane, as I call him, he cemented his place there. But the final was so fucking wacky. I texted y'all because I caught it from the, like, 80-something minute and was like, I don't know if you're seeing this. This is the most fucking wacky thing I've seen so far. Really, and for people, I recommend you watch because there was a penalty given in the 95th minute with like three minutes left in injury time.
Starting point is 01:02:03 It was pretty soft. The VAR came in. They gave the penalty. The Senegalese team was like not having it. The coach is like, that's it, boys, pack it up. We're not doing this shit. We're not doing this bullshit. That is like AAU.
Starting point is 01:02:16 That is travel soccer behavior. That's embarrassing parent behavior. No. This is not fair. And I'm not going to have my kids play like this. No. No, this is not fair. This is not right.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And you're on the field like dad. You told me I couldn't quit last week. Yeah. Now you're telling me to run off the field. Yeah, get your ass off. Yeah, yeah. This is how cool people quit. All right?
Starting point is 01:02:37 Yeah, yeah. Winners quit. Winners rage quit. Again, thank God for Sadio Mani. He fucking was like, what the fuck are we doing? No. Like, we got a fucking play, man. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:02:50 He got the team back out there, credit to him. And Brahim Diaz. my gosh. One of the worst motherfucking penalties of all time. He goes for a Pananka, okay?
Starting point is 01:03:02 After like a 20 minute stoppage, which is crazy. It was like 10 minutes, bro. I love looking at the B in sports highlights on this. It jumps from 93rd minute to like 10. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah, yeah. So he takes that penalty. He is distraught. And there were people wondering, speculating if Brian, if Brahim Diaz missed that intentionally because of the bar call being controversial. I'm like, there's not a single player who has been like, oh, man, we got a soft bar penalty.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I might as well be right with the universe. Especially with the Moroccan fan. Dude, there's no way. At all? Yeah, are you joking? Magic, do what they do to the goalies towel? What they do to that guys? Bro.
Starting point is 01:03:47 First of all, I'm worried about, I don't know. Hopefully, Brahim Diaz is okay. He was fucking beyond upset. and as you should be because everyone's like, bro, you look, you look dumb as hell for that. It's a crazy cool to do that. You just got snatched out. In America, we call that icing the kicker.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And in America, you don't get 15 minutes of ice. Did you see the memes where it was, there was a photo of Mikkel Arteeta writing in a notepad and saying like, okay. Leave the field for 15. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like fucking call it, say the penalty goes bullshit. Ice the fucking penalty taker for 10 minutes come back.
Starting point is 01:04:22 players those players fucking aged those men were aged beautifully by yeah yeah they were all anyway so and also like
Starting point is 01:04:33 controversially there was a goal that was called back too that Senegal could have had which has fueled a lot of speculation to your point about the towel shit that the Moroccans have been up to some fuck shit this entire tournament and you know they were
Starting point is 01:04:46 a lot of people were like they're getting all the calls but the ball boys stealing the goalkeeper's towel now that is that's just fucking stupid and carmically if that's how you're going to win I think be probably deserved to win to lose the way you did because Pop K had a fucking wonderful
Starting point is 01:05:03 doing bad both so both teams karma is off leave in the field stealing the towels how is that not how is no one policing that I guess it's like a weird I mean the people that were was the backup keeper and other bench players so like the Senegalese backup keeper
Starting point is 01:05:20 went to go run the towel to Mendi whenever he needed it because he couldn't leave it by the goalposts because the ball boys kept snatching it and shit. So like, I don't know if you saw the clip. There was one where this Moroccan bench player was like basically like D&M up to keep the backup keeper from giving Mendi the fucking towel. It was stupid. And then like the ball boys are getting into it. But there were a lot of the players have come out and been like, this shit is fucking weird, bro. Like, you know, Pop Matesar, the Spurs player, I think he was ill.
Starting point is 01:05:54 A lot of players went down sick before the final. One of their fullbacks, Ismail Jacobs, said it's, quote, is no coincidence that people started going down sick. And he said in the mix, unquote, a lot happened before the match. I think a lot will come out afterwards. It wasn't just this situation. Plenty happened before the match, too, but you'll find out. Now, I don't know if that's just some good old fashion. Chat is like the Tottenham Dojee curry thing.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Is that what you're suggesting? The lasagna? The Lasagna, sorry. The West Ham lasagna chef, I think, was a account for many years. Is that what they're trying to claim that people going down sick because of some sort of intentional? Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Hold on. Because a lot of people are pointing out, they're like, that's crazy that, like, you felt ill after playing against. Yeah, because again, Guinea Bissau, I think, said they also got sick a few hours before their game against Morocco four years ago. There was another incident in 2018. The Gabon team said that they got food poisoning, 2021. That was the one I just talked about where people were like, I don't know. Every time we've played Morocco, people have gotten sick as fuck right before the match.
Starting point is 01:07:09 That's crazy. So I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, it was very like, Pop Mante, sorry. he went to the hospital at half time. He was so fucking sick. Whoa. And then Rahim Diaz got sick on accident.
Starting point is 01:07:24 He was over there putting eyedrops in people's cereals and shit. Brahim Diaz, unfortunately, he messed himself. He then messed himself up. But that's Jason. I also didn't realize. I was like, I didn't know Brahim Diaz was Moroccan. All I can say is, I went to Morocco in 2012 and the man tricked me into following him
Starting point is 01:07:45 all the way to a tannery I didn't want to go to. Hey, you listen to. Oh, wow. What a high brow joke. He was very good. Me and my wife walking through his,
Starting point is 01:07:56 you know, they got in, um, uh, what's the cap, in Marrakech. He walked through all these tunnels. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:08:01 and I'm like, and, you know, I'm pretty street savvy in, in other countries. I'm like, don't need anything. He goes,
Starting point is 01:08:07 and this guy's just walking in front of me. He actually like, he was acting like, oh, like he was nothing. He was like, he wasn't even like trying to talk to me. He was like, I've got history of being, being tricked by people of Morocco.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Same. I've done that when people offered me drugs on the beaches of Mexico, and I tried them right there. And I said, not, this shit ain't banging hard enough. And then they tried to, they were going to rob me because they were like, well, I don't know what the fuck you thought this was. This is not take a penny, give a penny at 7-11. Look, it all, it happens, baby. You got to have your head on a several.
Starting point is 01:08:35 That's where your beef of Mexico started pre- Yeah. Pre-Dutch national. Well, you should have had it on the sign, okay? You didn't say that when I entered this beach store. Well, anyway, that's going to do it for us this week. Ain't a footy. Another fucking banger episode in the fucking books. Anybody got anything to plug?
Starting point is 01:08:57 February 3rd, Blind Barber, Highland Park, Los Angeles. Free comedy show. It's called Fresh Produce. Oh, that's also my son's birthday. So I wish I would not be there. But tell him pull up. Yeah, yeah. What time is it at?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Come on down. It's 9 p.m. It's time for us try. phone. He's turning three that day, so he'll be right. That's great. I've got nothing. Chris, what about you? No, nothing? Great.
Starting point is 01:09:19 No, no shows that are going to be great. Oh, maybe I'm in Nashville. I'm in Nashville doing February 20. I'm doing a Nate Bagatsy's showcase or something on February the 22nd. National Zanis. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And me, as usual, I just want to shout out Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. All things are possible through him, including this podcast. I hope everybody will invite Jesus Christ into their heart as their Savior and be able to receive all the treasures and abundance that is offered to you by the kingdom of heaven. Okay. Are you doing this because you want as they just start scoring? He's real Christian, right? You know, I'm just trying to put,
Starting point is 01:09:54 I'm hoping, you know, every time I do something random, if it resonates, hopefully this will activate the Christian boys of the Arsenal team. Noni, Ebs, Urien, Bucayo. Of course, come now. Come now. Bokio's dog, probably Christian too. Kyle's dog. You know, he doesn't know, but Bet, you know his girl is. Bedwise. Bedwise, he's extremely Christian. He just. hug. Yeah, he don't like talking about it. Yeah, because he's one of those hip, like he goes that
Starting point is 01:10:16 Justin Bieber church and shit. We're the fucking pastor where Supreme and Dior and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, y'all. We'll see you next time. Peace. Bye.

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