The Daily Zeitgeist - Man In The Mirror, GOP Not Anti-Anti-Semitism 3.11.19

Episode Date: March 11, 2019

In episode 345, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Eric Lampaert to discuss why it is so hard for people to cancel Michael Jackson, Captain Marvel breaking box office records, the sentencing of Paul Manafort, the house passing a resolution condemning anti-Semitism and anti-Muslim discrimination, Trump taking a selfie with alleged sex trafficker Cindy Yang, Alex Trebek's cancer diagnosis, the hate speech towards Meghan Markle, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. 'Too big to cancel': can we still listen to Michael Jackson?2. 'Captain Marvel' Breaks Box Office Records With $21M Thursday3. Manafort’s ‘mind-boggling’ 47-month sentence prompts debate over judicial system’s ‘blatant inequities’4. House passes resolution condemning anti-Semitism and anti-Muslim discrimination5. Trump says Democrats "anti-Jewish" party6. Trump cheered Patriots to Super Bowl victory with founder of spa where Kraft was busted7. Alex Trebek announces he has stage 4 cancer8. Today we have published guidelines for interacting with The @RoyalFamily, @ClarenceHouse and Kensington Palace social media channels.9. WATCH: Wiley, Sean Paul, Stefflon Don - Boasty ft. Idris Elba Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you. 99, right? Was that 99? Was that 99? I don't know. No Strings Attached was the album. Oh, okay. Maybe... I was thinking of Backstreet Boys' Millennium. Oh, wow. Let me tell you, actually. Let's actually pull it up.

Still got that 99 hangover from our live show. Oh, you know what? 2000. But I suspect maybe that single may have came out in 99. Right. So maybe there's something there. 99999. Ooh, 9999.

Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian and performer, Mr. Eric Lampere. Gentlemen. Hello. Hello. It's good to be back. It's always good to be back. Yes. To see both of your faces. How have you been Gentlemen. Hello. Hello. It's good to be back. It's always good to be back. Yes.

To see both of your faces. How have you been? Thank you so much. I'm actually genuinely doing very good. Okay, good. Good. I remember last time you were sort of in a bit of an existential bind. He's going through a divorce.

Yeah. Feeling good? You're going to pay your taxes too now? I remember also you're like, I'm not paying my taxes. Yeah. Still not paying your taxes? Well, I went to see an accountant. Firstly, my previous accountant made mistakes. Oh. So actually so it wasn't i was like this is too much but also

i still feel like i don't want to pay taxes to a country that steals kids yeah so fair it's weird hey look if you if you stand up to uh this government and maybe throwing in a tax jail they might put your face on a court or something. Yeah, maybe I'm the next sort of giving myself to prison for the message of, don't steal kids. Over a couple thousand dollars. Eric, it's great to have you back. We're going to

get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to check in with where everyone's at with the cancellation of Michael Jackson uh we're gonna talk about Captain Marvel which blew up over the weekend even though uh I didn't really know that this character existed prior to uh this movie going into production uh we're gonna talk about Manafort's sentence, Facebook, and their relationship to the Trump administration and some of the people running against him in 2020.

And we're going to talk about the fact that you can buy the Mueller report. Pre-order now. The hottest new book on Amazon. Best seller list. But first, Eric, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, so I've recently been searching the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse soundtrack. Okay. Wow.

Yeah. Have you seen the movie, firstly? I still haven't seen it. I know I should watch it. I'm going to watch it this next week because I have to keep up with the rest of society. Yes. Yes, you certainly do. Yeah, it's so good.

I know. People were like, that was actually probably one of the best movies of last year. Oh, hands down. When it won the Oscar, I was like, yeah. I mean, I need to. Brown kid with super powers named Miles. Right. How have you not watched it?

I know. Part of me, I think I'm just going to get down on myself that I don't have that kind of power. Yeah. If anything, it's going to give you the power. Oh, shit. Yeah, I feel like the hero is inside all of us. Right.

That kind of vibe, you know? Does he wear Jordans in it, too? Yeah. Like Jordan 1s? Yeah. The same Jordan 1s that you have? Well, no. Is there any chance that he's based on you?

No. For the real sneakerheads, he's not wearing the ones. I have banned bread 1s, okay? There's a very different one than the jordan spider verse ones that people not really fucking with but i like them they're not fucking with them i mean this is the deal okay it's a it's a model off of like the the kind of jordan uh the retros that he wore like in his rookie year right but this one has little details like an ice soul and like webbing in it that is a little bit of a departure

from the OG style of Jordan. Not a lesser Jordan, but I can't also, one's too narrow for my feet. They're the only Jordans that weren't designed by Tinker Hatfield, and they're fine, but they're just, I feel like- It's a dunk. Yeah, it's just an old school dunk.

It's a dunk with a little bit of a Jordan wing logo on the top part. Right, which isn't even the Jordan logo. I find it fascinating that people are really into shoes. Yeah. It's kind of beautiful to watch. Like when I'm driving along Fairfax, sometimes there'll be lines and lines of people. And I used to be like, oh, are they going to go see a band or something?

Just shoes. That's amazing. If it's Fairfax, that's for Supreme for sure. Yes. Where the real robbery is going down. But Eric, can you take a band with you when you leave the store? Can you wear a band on your feet? I wear them in my heart.

Very deep. What is something you think is underrated, sir? Underrated? Delaying gratification. I think people at the moment, especially with our phones, and this is me as well. This is not like I didn't grow up with phones I'm getting addicted to my phones and I want things now all the time

and so the enjoyment I've recently watched a series which is not that amazing the Umbrella thing I'm in the middle of that it wasn't amazing enough for me to binge it but then I watched like one episode a day and I almost enjoyed it more than like series that i do binge because then it's like oh

i'm just a little bit yum yum right a little bit then a little bit and you get a little time to think about it yeah not just like keep it going i don't want to think i think we've forgotten to do that most of us we've just we've forgotten to just go hey i'll treat myself to that tomorrow um yeah i'm all about deferred gratification, just in general. You see the way I eat sometimes, like the way I'll leave the perfect bite for the very last bite of my meal. Yeah, and that's what I do. You know, shit like that. I've got a friend who I still haven't forgiven him, really.

This happened seven years ago. I left a beautiful piece of portobello mushroom to the side. And as I went to grab it, he smoked it. And he ate it. And he laughed like in my face. Because he knew that I needed it. Right. That makes it worse because he knows what it meant to you.

And he still said, watch this, Eric. So I'm, yes. How's that person doing now? Oh, well. You're like, I don't know. Don't talk to him. He's all right. But I will get my revenge. Yeah, good.

So you guys, it sounds like you're in different places when it comes to the Umbrella Academy. No, actually, I do like it. You do like it. I like it, yeah. You like it a lot. Yeah, I enjoy it. But to Eric's point, I'm not binging it either. So it's not one of the things you're like, I have to keep watching over and over.

But it's good. And I think more than anything, it sort of reignited my imagination a little bit creatively because when I thought about it, I was like, well,

if the guy from My Chemical Romance could think this up. Yeah. Why the fuck can't I? Yeah. Shout out to whatever, like a Gerard Way or something. Yeah.

It's a good story. I like it. Yeah. It expands the horizons of all creative goth kids. Yeah. Like you. What is something you think is overrated, Eric? Oh, countries.

Ah, nation states. I'm starting to get done with it, right? I'm very thankful that, you know, in my first 12 years of life, I lived in seven countries and now I live here and stuff. Right. And so I'm very lucky that I get to actually experience life in all the countries, and all the countries have problems, all the countries have good things, they've all got races,

they've all got lovely people. And I'm like, let's just open up. I'd like to just try an experiment where we just open up our borders, every single country, just to see what happens. Oh, yeah, it'd be a party. Because so far, borders haven't really worked. Right. So if anything, I'm like, far, borders haven't really worked. Right. So if anything,

I'm like, fuck it. Let's just open it up. And also, surely, if you look at what's happened in history and presently and in the future, ultimately,

we are going to become just one planet, right? We don't need borders. Let's just open it up. Let's just party. A free-for-all, yeah. International Federation, let's get it done.

Also, when the ice caps start melting and stuff, the layout of the land is going to look so different. We're going to have a mass immigration everywhere. Yep, there's going to be water everywhere. People are going to be talking Portuguese. Netherlands isn't going to exist anymore and stuff. I know the Dutch are very worried about that because they are below sea level.

They're like, how do we fix our... We're kind of in a bind here geographically. They have like locks and like all sorts of engineering features. Yeah, like it's pretty remarkable what they've done. Yeah, that's smart. They'll work it out. And actually, they flooded themselves a couple of times before in history during the Spanish War that they had. Whenever like Spain would sort of come to

attack them they were like no we don't want this just flood the land yeah they flooded the land because they're better at dealing with their land flooded then which i quite liked i was like yeah that's kind of cool yeah that's what i do anytime i think there's a burglar in my house yeah flood it just flood it just keep flushing the toilet if I hear something get all the showers going shout out to William of Orange I will say open borders versus closed borders open borders have the much better optics

like closed borders looks if you want a quick way to make your country look like World War 1 go to the border where the most locked down border. It's just all fucking barbed wire and people in gas masks and machine guns. Are you saying open borders, less scary?

Less scary. And yeah. And also it's fun. Acknowledge people's right to live and move around. People need opportunity. What the fuck are we doing? I know that I'm very lucky with my job that I get to travel and stuff. And it's not easy if you want to travel and

you've got two kids and so you know i appreciate that it's difficult for some people but people need to get out of their own country yeah it's the world because and this is every country but when they go my country is the best country in the world and i'm like oh yeah where else have you been i haven't been anywhere else because it's the best. And I'm like, okay, mate. Good data. Right. Right. Good. That's amazing analysis there. Right.

This pizza's the best. It's a margarita. Yeah. What else have you tried? Have you tried like a nice vegetarian one or supreme? No, I don't need to. What's that? Yeah.

I'm like, oh, mate, come on. These bagel bites are the best pizza I've ever had. Hey, you ever had a real pizza? No. I don't need to. Because this is the best. Okay. I bite my food, therefore, henceforth, bagel bite.

Herein, bagel bite is the new one. I mean, when pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza any time. Yeah, that's true. So let's be real here. That is not wrong. Miles has his pockets filled with bagel bites most of the time. Yo, if I'm ever at your house and you have bagel bites, watch them disappear. I won't cook them there. I will put them in my pockets and I'll walk out with them.

You know what? One day you two need to come to my house and maybe have a cup of tea and some bagel bites. Yeah. Oh, I would love to. I've known you now for long enough. Yeah. We should maybe hang out like real people. What kind of tea? Well, I actually have a nice variety.

Oh, wow. Variety. Ah. I didn't mean to do that joke. It just naturally came out. The only tea I drink is brisk. Baby. Iced tea.

Lipton's brisk. Okay. And that's the only kind I've ever had. It's the only kind I ever need to have. Jesus. Is there American... But Lipton is still an English product, isn't it not? I think so.

Right? Because I don't think Americans... Tea wasn't our thing. We're about the tabacchi. I don't think England created the brand with like the giant block letters. It was like, brisk. No, right. Yeah. And not to say that even English created tea.

Remember those commercials that were claymation and it was like Frank Sinatra and like fucking Sylvester Stallone. Whoa, that's brisk, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he like came back to life. Yeah. Just love that shit. Why don't we sell products like that?

My favorite British imports culturally, I think. Sylvester Stallone? Yeah. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false, Eric? Oh, I went the opposite. Okay. People believe, so hypnotherapy.

People think it's false. A lot of lot of people go oh it doesn't work and it's like well maybe it didn't work for you once like you know once because you tried it once but it's quite you know it's quite a thing because you've got to fully let go and you've got to allow yourself to have the therapist sort of get inside your brain right people are worried that it's going to be like a get out situation right like you go to sleep and then they can make you just do you know go into the sunken place right it's going to be like a get out situation. Right. Like you go to sleep and then they can make you just do, you know, go into the sunken place. Right. It's not like that. It's like actually you put yourself in the sunken place and you're still there.

Like you can fully snap out of it. Even after you're still in the sunken place. Let's be real. We're all in the sunken place. Right. Yeah. And if anything, like once you deal with your trauma, you get out of the sunken place. Sure.

Right. At least you have an idea of where you are. Right. Then you can be like, oh, i don't want to be here and it's so it's quite interesting that i was a little bit dubious about hypnotherapy right well i think people think of hypnosis as like the magician who's like watch this clock and then yeah like and when i do this you're only going to speak in backwards right right versus like it and you know it's about how susceptible you are so like you know if you allow yourself to just be like okay i'm gonna have a good time let's just do this

it works a lot easier than if you're scared and actually if you've got some really bad trauma that you're dealing with or actually some secrets that you're ashamed of you're unlikely to allow yourself to be hypnotized because you don't want those secrets to come out right and so eventually that's why it doesn't work for some people it's because you're not you're you're not allowing it you're not allowing it to come in you sound like a hypno like a hypnosis expert who's just been thwarted at a demonstration and then here's i'm sorry everyone this is the problem this person is not allowing for the hypnosis has obviously experienced something very bad something or done something very bad and And I'm not here to, you know,

cast aspersions or anything like that, but... What did you do, man? But anyway. Otherwise, Barky, how you doing over there? Woof, woof! See, so it's all working out. Oh, shit. But basically, I would like to recommend therapy

to anyone who needs it. Yeah. That's kind of my point. It's just nice. Oh, yeah. We all need it. We all need a little bit. And also, yeah,

there's a catharsis you experience that comes out with being very candid and honest about yourself. Yeah, it feels good. Yeah. Generally,

after I did it, I didn't realize that I was holding onto a pain that I had since I was 15. So it was 17 years. With the portobello mushroom. It was that. And I'll have my revenge.

Which is what you want to have a hypnotherapy for. It's revenge. Not love and compassion. You need to be clear about all your Arya Stark lists you've got to put together. You're like, wait, hold on, this is great. Your hypnotherapist is like, you missed one. Let's find the person that you missed,

that you need to add to your list. Tommy Lasorda. Yeah. Tommy Lasorda, what'd he do? Tommy gonna get a Lasorda. Yeah. Tommy Lasorda? What'd he do? Tommy gonna get a Lasorda. Whoa. A sword. Okay.

Fight. Jesus. Anyways, let's talk about Michael Jackson. Yes, please. And cancellations going on. So the Simpsons announced that they're going to pull the Michael Jackson episode in which Michael Jackson appears as a character who believes he's Michael Jackson. Yeah. Stark Raving Dad, I think is the name of the episode. Yeah. And they're going to pull that out of their rotation of reruns. And a lot of

people spent most of last week dealing with the information that we learned in the Neverland documentary. Miles, you kind of had some interesting observations. Even on the beginning of the week when the first two aired, the lack of Michael Jackson as a trending topic indicated to me that many people still have a very hard time processing all of the accusations from that documentary. And, you know, I've noticed too, R. Kelly sort of helped a lot of people, especially a lot of, I think, Michael Jackson fans, or just people, cancel culture people in general,

that it was easier to just focus on R. Kelly last week than it was even on Michael Jackson. Because I think a lot of people even myself included I have a lot the reckoning that is happening within me of trying to reconcile my love for the music, the effect that

the music has on me, what it means to me and putting that next to a pattern of predation and sexual abuse and what that means to me, what that means to me to like the music while it's very, very, it's, it's heavy. And a lot of, especially for African American people. And I said this last week, it's a very heavy topic because Michael is, is much more than music in a, in a general sense. And it's, it's, he's a cultural touchstone and you know to the credit of the

filmmakers touch kids yeah oh jesus christ to the credit keep it sorry at eric lampard so at the come on i had to no i know it's a very awkward subject and i think it's the same way people like to have the r kelly memes came out it's very hard awkward subject, and I think it's the same way people have the R. Kelly memes came out. It's very hard to deal with the gravity of everything, right? Even the filmmaker himself was saying the point of the documentary isn't necessarily about dragging Michael Jackson through the dirt or anything. It's about telling the story of the effect of the sexual abuse

on these two young men that they carry out with their lives. Telling the story of the victims. It's always about the fucking, like, guy. The monster, right. I think in France it's illegal to say the name of someone that commits a crime, like a mass shooting and stuff. Right.

Because it makes them famous, and therefore we just don't want that. And for some reason, America is so like, yeah, who's the one that did all the fucking crime? Let's make him famous. And then, oh, forget all these 20 people that died. Sure. And it's the same.

When I watched Leaving Neverland, I was like, no, this is important. It's good to hear their point of view. And also what I found interesting, and I hope I don't phrase this badly so people start crying over the air, but it was interesting to hear their sort of story of love, right? In that, like, I felt like Michael jackson what it seemed like he did was obviously terrible but if i think he just confused love right do you know i mean right when you juxtapose that with the history of abuse he experienced as a child it's it's a lot of people tend to look at these things in a vacuum rather than a continuation of some cycle of abuse like we we've we're

privileged enough to actually to have known michael jackson since he was a little boy and we know the abuse that he had and it's not it's not excusable what he's done no but it's it's actually interesting to go oh okay so you know if we can now work out in the future like the the root of problems and actually help people at the root rather than just allow them to domino effect into a pedophile yeah right surely that that is how we heal as a as a people right you know because with r kelly i didn't really know much about him before and so i was like oh what am i gonna lose ignition and stuff and i believe i can fly and yeah that's sucks yeah and i think too even with last week everything going on i saw a

lot of people just it was like a race to the bottom for cancel culture. People were like, well, let's talk about Elvis Presley. And let's talk about his 14-year-old wife and teenagers that he was being romantic with or all the other dark shit that was happening in his relationships. Yeah. And I think, again, I don't think it's a culture war scoreboard. More so that I think what we're trying to do is just even culturally culturally have a reckoning about how we talk about child sex abuse yeah and if it's a thing we don't have to be like oh that's too dark right or like let's avoid that because it makes us uncomfortable it's precisely about under to connect it with the rest of humanity to say this is a this is an ongoing issue

that for whatever reason we it's much easier for us to not talk about because of how difficult and dark it is yeah but like how do we that how are we now advancing to begin talking about this and uh advocate for victims and try and make this something that isn't just a like a taboo topic and just something we can fully we need to talk about it i mean it's been going on for years and the greeks and stuff like that everyone's been doing it yeah and i think it's important to use people like michael jackson because we all know him right right the whole world knows him so then we can use him as a platform to talk about it you know and because i was i briefly mentioned it to you two boys um before we started recording that my mom was uh sexually abused when she was like 10 10 11, 11. And I did speak to her about me allowing to talk about it.

I did say like, can I talk about it? And she was like, yeah, no, definitely. You need to talk about it and stuff. And it happens to everyone. Like, you know, like ultimately you'll know a friend, you'll know a family member, you'll know someone has been abused and maybe they don't talk to you about it

because they're scared of your reaction. And so many people, they'll say something and then they're not getting believed. Right. So then they just keep it to themselves and scared of your reaction. And so many people, they'll say something and then they're not getting believed. Right. So then they just keep it to themselves and it sucks. Yeah. And then we also tend to view sometimes, you know, we all, like you say, we know people who have, there's a high chance we know someone with that kind of history in their past that

you can also kind of see how it manifests into their adulthood too. And sometimes it's still not talked about because of the shame around. And I think to remove the stigma of being a victim too is important. Yeah. It's just, again, it's one of these huge cultural moments that I think even, you know, there were articles about people talking to wedding DJs and saying like, how will this affect your job as a wedding DJ? Will you play Michael Jackson's music anymore? And a lot of people said there were people who have been DJing since the nineties to people who have just been DJing the last 10 years and who have said, you know, when he died, everyone was very interested in the music because his death allowed

a little bit of space in between what people kind of probably knew but weren't willing to acknowledge and were able to use that to sort of re-engage with his music. And they said, well, have you talked to people who like don't want the music played they say yeah i meet people who like clients who don't want the music played yeah other people say they need the music to be played and and can can the music be seen as also an insight into what he was going through like i was thinking as soon as i watched lady neverland i i just for some reason i thought of man in the mirror right he's asking the man in the mirror to change yeah and i was thinking is he talking to himself here is he trying to find a way to change but it's so fucking hard to change by

yourself i think that's one of the reasons why i brought up hypnotherapy right was because before i did it i would snap oh you know if if things didn't go my way i would throw a little fucking tantrum right like a little bloody boy that i was and the the reason I did that is because I was stuck at 15-year-old me. I was a 32-year-old man, but for some reason, and this is something that I forgot. I didn't realize I was holding onto it, but I was holding onto a pain

that happened to me as a kid. And Freud talks about it and so many other people. The monomyth is about these heroes that have to tackle their Oedipus complex and stuff. Like what, you know, when I look at trophy hunters, I go, who did you really kill, your mum or your dad?

Because ultimately people look up to their parents, rightly so, because we idolise them because we need to for survival. And then we forget that when they make a mistake, we hold on to it like, I can't believe my parents did this. What the fuck is wrong with them? But then you realise, surely, as an adult, not only are we all just improvising through life because this is and no one knows what they're doing without even a one word suggestion right and so we have to yes and everything and it's terrifying and then

you realize oh shit my parents are just people once you can realize that they're people you realize oh man like what you know they did their best yeah and sometimes their best can be fucking shit yeah yeah but that might still be their best based and sometimes their best can be fucking shit yeah yeah but that might still be their best based on how their parents treated them and you go back and forth and it's the same thing with michael jackson you could sort of get a glimpse into why he became the monster that that was but it's yeah it's i mean he he did a horrible thing and it shouldn't be forgiven it should should not like, I don't know. I don't know.

Exactly. The cancel culture, I think is an absurd way to describe dealing with the consequences of the things that people did or not having a double standard for famous people, you know, not just letting people get away with shit and not ignoring the consequences. We should look at Elvis. And so far as that was a behavior that happened, get away with shit and not ignoring the consequences. We should look at Elvis insofar as

that was a behavior that happened. But I think the people who are objecting to cancel culture, I think, like to frame it as a, well, then they just say it's either black and white. And if they did something bad, then you immediately immediately cancel them and I think that there's probably room for people who like the wedding DJ said like don't want to necessarily remove all of his music and you know I have a friend who was like I still I'm gonna listen to his music and I was like are you gonna watch the documentary and he was like fuck no right I was like all right well I mean that's and that's a shame as, fuck no. Right. And I was like, all right, well, I mean, that's his right. And that's a shame as well because it is his right,

but I feel like- Yeah, you can't bury your head in the sand either because it's uncomfortable. Yeah, you can't ignore the negative things in life. Yeah. Negative and positive things happen in life and we've just got to talk about both of them. Yeah.

People are just always fucking obsessed about, I need to be happy, I need to be happy, and so they fucking just ignore everything that's sad. And it's like yeah if you're ignoring everything that's sad you're actually deluding yourself right and even with this right it's like i look at him like well am i shitty because i'm a fan of michael jackson's music or is this more to do with my ability to deal with the darkness of acknowledging someone's history of predation or to understand that this is an actual problem. And it just forces so much introspection,

at least for me personally throughout all of this, because I'm like, what am I trying to preserve myself from? It's not that I advocate for child sex abuse. It's just the music. Right. But even then, I'm like... If his music pops on the the radio his songs are fucking amazing forget michael jackson forget the the man just listen to the music right the music is stunning

the music is amazing put that put it on in a discotheque and you will beat and you will pop and you'll dance right and it doesn't matter i mean it does matter it does the person you know committed crimes but but the music itself is is it well that but that's the thing is then then you get into the whole argument of like can you separate the art from the artist and all these other things and then it's like well then is there like a predator period of michael jackson music that's okay to listen to because that was prior to this but you know for example like r kelly is still alive now if he still made songs now i'd be like someone someone somewhere is fucking up right because he's quite clearly an abuser right but michael jackson's dead right like and it doesn't mean let it go but

let's concentrate on the victims let's help them heal yeah but he's gone guys like and the music exists yeah people are so obsessed with deleting history no learn from the fucking history you bunch of cunts right apologies for getting no no absolutely but people are just right they just want to live in their fucking bubble well right yeah both sides continue to play his music but then understand that part of the meaning of that music now is has changed the context has changed for playing that music and respect that some person might completely object to that and you also have to respect that person's you know yeah if they're and if somebody asks you to turn his music off or not play it at their wedding obviously uh and i think respect that and i think it'll be fun, you know,

because then you've got a different meaning to beat it. Right. To smooth criminal. Man in the Mirror is really interesting because, first of all, Man in the Mirror, like he was somebody who did not accurate, you know, he had horrible body and, you know, just person dysmorphia.

So he couldn't accurately see his own reflection in the mirror but then also like like you were talking about he's asking himself to change but he's also the only person because he was so famous he's the only person who was holding himself to account you know like he's trying to police his own behavior and like that just i i think it's a good point that uh you brought up therapy because that's the value of therapy is you can't look at yourself and be objective and be the person policing yourself you need to bring somebody else in and tell them about what you're dealing with like other people are your mirrors yes and and the the reason the reason i went into hypnotherapy was because my wife ex-wife

she pointed out that i needed mothering right and i was like oh interesting like and i was like oh i didn't realize like i'll work on that and she was like but you know don't be embarrassed by it like it was obvious like you got right you got abandoned by your mom at the age of 15 right and i was like oh oh yeah that's interesting right and so all of a sudden i realized that i was going i was jumping from one relationship to another right and i was doing the same patterns that i felt like i couldn't control right and and you're like why am i always ending up with the same type of person same kind of relationship yeah and it was annoying me i was like change my diaper and so it was annoying me and that's why i did the hypnotherapy and i got rid of it and then i realized i was looking at my

dad and my dad got abandoned by his mom at the age of eight. So not only did he repeat the cycle onto me, right? But also now I'm looking at his relationships and he's just jumping from one to another. I'm going, oh man, that's so fucking sad. And then you look at people in general, literally all of us have, you know, this thing inside of us. Yeah.

That there are cycles of abuse or trauma that we don't even realize we're however small or big yeah you know some people it might be a small thing but you know it's a ripple effect you're you're bumping up against the you know it's like an intersection of believing victims empowering victims holding people to account celebrity cult there's so many fucking layers to it that it's not like it's not the question is a child sex predator good or bad right it's this it's what does that mean is you know this person is dead that they've left a legacy culturally that people still have you know they've absorbed through osmosis it's super difficult because i watched the thing yesterday

and i was like i'm not to give up my music. Right. I'm not because I love his music. Yeah. But you're still, but yeah, it does. I may not play it in the car. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's the thing is that it's going to be different for people who are victims of abuse. 100%. To hear Michael Jackson music and that's going to have its own connotations. Like I was saying, it changes the context. So we need to be sensitive to that. And if somebody doesn't want to hear Michael Jackson music or maybe like ask before you put it on, like, is everybody cool if I play a Michael Jackson song? Yeah, that's interesting.

But that's not that's not like I don't know. People are just like, oh, so now because you're criticizing him, then he's totally canceled and I can't listen to Thriller ever again. And it's like, no, I don't think the options are either we can never talk about happened and that we have to deal with. And that is now a part of the story that, you know, we that has been a part of everybody's lives. And let's just not bury our head in the sand one way or another. At a minimum, the era of willful ignorance around it has ended. Yes. Guys, I feel like we are on the verge of solving the human condition, but we have to go to a break, unfortunately. So maybe next time. I don't know. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered.

There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.

And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.

Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.

Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.

One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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24 hours. BPM 110. 120's terrified should we wake her up absolutely not what was that you didn't figure it out I think I need to hear you say it that was live audio of a woman's nightmare this machine is approved and everything you're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.

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I'm so rich. I don't know what to you guys is a lot of money. So this is, I think, wild for a couple reasons. One, another L for the male community of people who try to influence the how successful a movie is like by down voting it on Rotten Tomatoes because they took that ability away so the backlash from men who hadn't seen it and we're just mad that there was a female superhero movie I think that also that nerds sometimes nerds are a bit mad. And I'm a nerd.

Right. So we're going to get into the nerd of it all in a moment. The other kind of thing that stood out to me about Captain Marvel is we were sitting here recording a week and a half ago. And a fighter jet flyover, like in formation, like it was the fucking Super Bowl, happened during one of our recordings. And usually we don't have that like i think it's warranted for a daily zeitgeist recording to have a fighter jet fly over but um uh we did a little research and it turns out it wasn't for us it was for the they were practicing for that evening's premiere of captain marvel and apparently captain marvel is one of the biggest military propaganda movies of all time.

It's like up there with Top Gun. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like all the fighter jets. Is that just because of, you mean like the hardware, the equipment that they allowed them to use or the care?

I don't even really, I'm not. So when Top Gun happened, there was a 500% rise in application to the US Navy. Right. 100%. And I think that's the same sort of thing

with this like interstellar created more astronaut applications right and so like when you look at like captain marvel and she's this right as well so it makes people want to you can't make i haven't seen captain marvel so i don't know the specific details but with with regards to top gun you could not have made that movie without pentagon being a like at least like huge partner in the production of that movie because they're the only ones who have fucking aircraft carriers right there's not like some guy doesn't have one to rent right you can't rent an aircraft carrier so the pentagon was like a oh yeah i got like necessary ingredient and they don't fuck around when it comes to script oversight they're like oh okay you're making a movie we're gonna make one with you and we're bringing our script consultant out and they're't fuck around when it comes to script oversight. They're like, oh, okay, you're making a movie.

We're going to make one with you and we're bringing our script consultant out and they're going to be in the room for the scripting and all the creative decisions from this point forward. Yeah, once you invite the Pentagon in, you get access to a lot of really cool toys. And the Pentagon are really good script supervisors. They have great instincts.

Yeah. What's his face? The guy who wrote Adaptation? I think he was there before. Yeah, Charlie Kaufman was there before. Right, at the Pentagon. Yeah, Paul Thomas Anderson, I also believe,

did a little stint there. Yeah, just doing some commercials. Right. But yeah, I think, you know, where's the top gun for teachers? You know what I mean? That's what we need. We need a good film

like that so people can be like we need good teachers like that guitar lick for a teacher yeah and she just

is walking into the class for the day one yeah and then finally the thing that stood out about this particular Marvel movie

to me is that this was the first one where I didn't know anything about this character until she was introduced. You knew about Ant-Man? I knew about Ant-Man. Oh, fuck.

I didn't know shit about Ant-Man. Yeah. I thought the Wasp was this dude I went to high school with. Well, because... That was somebody's nickname? Yeah, dude, Brett. What a great...

Boatshoe Brett. What a great self. Yeah. Oh, the Wasp. Okay, Boatshoe Brett. Now I get it. White. Oh, the wasp. Okay, Boat Shoe Brett. Now I get it. White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Right, right, right.

I think I only knew about Ant-Man because I'd been saying that they needed to remake Honey, I Shrunk the Kids as an action-adventure movie with modern special effects. And people were like, they're going to with Ant-Man. It's called Ant-Man. and people were like, they're going to with Ant-Man. It's called Ant-Man. But anyway, so Eric, you were saying that this is part of sort of the afterlife of the Avengers movies, right? Yeah, so I don't know too much,

but I know that you've got the original Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, and all of that. And I know that at some point they are going to either die or stop being part of the Avengers and new people are going to come die or stop being partly Avengers and new people are going to come in and that's why I think they've introduced Captain Marvel who will be partly Avengers and I believe uh there's a trailer for the next Spider-Man I can't remember his name but Jake Gyllenhaal's uh superhero character Mysterio I can't remember no Mysterio's in South

Park but um they uh there is a sort of he's got like a sort of aquarium head fishbowl helmet. Oh he's Mysterio. Mysterio. Right. So I know that I believe that these guys

become Avengers in the future. Oh. Because after Avengers Endgame it's not the end. It's just the end game for like Tony Stark

for example. I still haven't watched Civil War. It's a good one, actually. Or what was the other one? The one where Thanos is in, because I'm afraid of what happens in it. I heard Infinity War.

Yeah, I don't know if I can handle it. Well, yeah, it's an interesting one because I think you're on the side of Thanos. I'm definitely a fan of Theranos and all the work they do. Yeah, you definitely a fan of Theranos. Right. And all the work they do. Yeah, you put a lot of money in that. I have to update you on how that company ended up doing.

What do you mean? Bro, I just put a down payment on this yacht, bro, and you're going to be laughing when you're not there, bro boy. I know you and the wasp went in on that. Boat shoe Brett. Boat shoe Brett went in on that down payment together. Mr. Pink Shorts. Right. But our nerd's angry because basically I think Captain Marvel was a man

and she eventually becomes Captain Marvel in the comics and she does work with him. Oh, get fucking over it. It's something like that, right? It's like she works with him and then when he retires, she becomes it. And they just bypass that storyline. Right. And I think that that's what the nerds are angry about.

Well, that and also she said that uh it was more of a criticism of a lot of the journalists she said she was encountering during the press tour which tend to skew like male older and white and she was like i i wish i was talking with like oh okay so uh you don't need white men to go to the movie heard right and now we're gonna roast the rotten tomato't need white men to go to the movie heard. Right. And now we are going to roast the Rotten Tomatoes score. If white men need to watch the movies, watch literally anything made before the 90s. Because I just now really, there's still a high chance now you're going to be fine with what you see. I've started watching like older movies just for a bit of fun because I've not watched the old cinema. And my goodness, it's just white men and one woman going, I don't know what I'm doing.

They're like, stand back now. I'll take control. It's super interesting. Like a little glimpse into like, and again, erasing cinema, erasing history. Like just because they're just full of white men and they're kind of misogynist and racist and stuff. Do we just delete that cinema?

No, you need to look at that so you can go, let's not do that again. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It's the same thing. It's in the same way a lot of like in the South, they don't like to teach too much about slavery. Right.

Because if you don't see it, then it's hard for you to think that that's a bad thing. Right. But if you're confronted in with your eyes to look at, look at these scars on the backs of slaves, look at, listen to these stories the backs of slaves look at listen to these stories you're more likely but yeah but although i mean still a very it's a cycle we're still trying to end too in this country i asked a german pal if they taught world war ii and stuff

in their schools and they were like oh yeah oh yeah right yeah and i was like good you know that's like an interesting thing that they were very adamant about teaching it sure yeah they did a good job with their reaction to World War II I feel like

from a history perspective yeah it looks like Germany turned it around a little bit right they gave it they gave it two guys right

you never know maybe they're planning the next one and now despite all of their best efforts there are right wing extremist groups that are on the rise up.

Reich 3, you're out. Oh, no. I like it. You know what I mean? Baseball. Nazis. Boom. Oh, now I get what you're referring to.

Baseball and Nazis, huh? Is that a movie yet? Baseball and Nazis? Baseball and Nazis. I feel like everyone's doing Nazis, zombie Nazis, something with Nazis. They did soccer Nazis in an 80s movie starring Sylvester Stallone. They did? Yeah.

Yeah. I think it was called Victory. And it was like prison camp. Was Sylvester Stallone playing a freaking soccer player? I think so, yeah. Hey. You're very good at Sylvester Stallone. Hey, you want to watch me freaking hit this free kick from outside the 18?

Upper V? All right. He's got all the lingo. Stallone, great footballer. We're still playing three in the back here? All right. All right. All right.

Paul Manafort. Ah, fuck. Got hit. So Mueller's recommendation was a minimum of 19 years. Those are just the sentencing guidelines. No, those are like the ones Congress says, like, for these kinds of crimes, this is the minimum is around 19 years. Mueller was like, there's no reason to go easy on this guy, basically. That's why I was like, here we go.

Right. That it was going to be lights out for him. Gorilla radio. And it turns out that the judge did not like that advice yeah uh because he sentenced him to 47 months yeah basically with nine months served already right so you know for these financial crimes now i think this has led to all kinds of people being like this the fix is in because the person said he's like lived an otherwise blameless life which is like really all the fucking the judge spin for he's done for like

dictators and shit and literally sending the russians polling him whatever fine about the judge right this judge in particular elliot he is not a fan of being told what to do when it comes to sentencing. Like he does not like, he's like, I'm the judge. I'm the one presiding over this. That's what you suggest. This is how I will rule. Right. He sounds like, yeah. He's pushed back actually, you know, on certain instances about mandatory minimums for drug dealers. So he kind of, this is sort of consistent with his brand of just like, don't tell me what, I'm the judge. I'll do what I want to in my court. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm still the judge. And it also seems like part of his deal is he recognizes that federal penitentiary is like a very bad place to be. He's like anybody

who's saying that this is too easy has never been inside a federal prison. Well, he's, but this one he would be going to is for white collar crime. You know what I mean? It's not like he's going to sing sing or something like that. But again, even with like white collar crimes i think there was some stat they said that like almost 66 percent of the time he was staying within guidelines and other times he would sort of be a little more lenient and everyone's people like well what's so different about paul manafort like what's going on and i think the bigger discussion is probably going to be around the way we treat white collar crime in general. Yes.

Because there are still motherfuckers who, like, that woman who voted in Texas while on probation and she had the wrong ID or something, they put her in prison for five years. Or just all the people in prison for marijuana still. Oh, man. You know what I mean? That is insane. And I think that's what sort of the issue to me is because he still has to face Amy Berman Jackson in D.C. in his D.C. case. And he could probably get up to 10 years from her. And at his age, look, it's not going to be a joy ride no matter how you look at it.

But I think the idea of how we look at crime and the sentencing I think is a bigger issue too that we should begin discussing because these disproportionate sentences where it's like, oh, well, look, if you're a white rich guy or you do rich people crimes, we know you mean well. You're not wacky that you just deceived people and defrauded people. But someone who might have stole some shit to support their family or is dealing drugs because that's their only financial recourse. Let's get them. Bury them under the fucking yeah yeah uh and you know and it sort of wears down our trust in these institutions right the presidency the executive we're like whatever congress we're like look at the republicans they're not willing to do shit slowly the judiciary is also crumbling too because we're like well well, look at how they're stacking the Supreme Court. It's become partisan there. We're not even seeing like a real actual blind application of justice in the law.

I sometimes feel like the government, and this is not just, you know, this Trump administration, but it's previous governments and it's governments around the world at the moment. It seems like they really want people to start just losing hope. You know, they just keep throwing something just to go you know we are in power here and we're gonna fuck you over yeah and ah at some point i'm french mate like we we behead the people yeah i love your bastille day tattoo man that's really dope you know like we're gonna come for you at some point government if you don't start getting your shit together yeah well americans are very, government, if you don't start getting your shit together. Yeah, well, Americans are very comfortable, you know, and we don't, the last time people pulled up like that

was in the Civil War, you know what I mean, or the Revolution. Yeah. And I think there's just... Also, it's a quite large country, it's quite hard to... Yeah, it's large, and also because it's been so prosperous, I think people are now only starting to feel the sting of being totally fucked by capitalism in this country, and that's why now people are like, hey, what the fuck is going on?

Exactly. Yeah. So it'll be a bit of a journey. But you can hear more about that in an upcoming podcast we're doing called It Could Happen Here. Yes, you can. With Robert Evans. Dropping March 28th. Yeah.

Talking about how a civil war could happen here. Could actually happen in the next couple of years in the United States. All right, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption

that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.

Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.

Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.

And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.

Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.

All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not.

What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Ilhan Omar keeps it hot in the Congress, in this U.S. Congress. Yeah. You know, in addition to all the controversies she's created with her statements about Israel.

Manufactured controversy. Right, manufactured controversy. But she does not shy away from speaking her mind when it comes to that story. People are also going crazy because she said some things about the Obama administration that are not deemed as that cool. Obama's a good guy, right? What? Barack drone Obama? So that is causing some people to kind of look at her askance.

But it's all okay because they passed a hate speech decree saying hate speech is bad. Hate speech is bad. Isms right? Hate speech is bad. Isms are bad. Phobias are bad. And that's that. Can we move on now? Because we've done our thing. Look, they passed that weird bill that we were talking about last week, how it got very

watered down and just turned into a general just sort of resolution about we don't like this stuff. Great. Sounds like a real easy thing to just pass almost unanimously right right the bill is basically saying we as a congress we fucking denounce this kind of shit whoa like you know the anti-semitism islamophobia just racism in general all that kind of shit um but still 24 republicans found a way to say i don't agree with that statement in a very roundabout way because they wanted the that bill to turn into not just a racism's bad bill into a ilhar ilhan omar hates jews and the dems are okay with it so they are the nazis not

us uh the people that actually are nazi sympathizers yeah uh because look your boy steve king he didn't vote no he voted present so a true profile and courage and the other uh republicans that voted against it were basically saying it's watered down it didn't go far enough because i think they just wanted to see her completely run out on a rail and just been lambasted by this thing. Rather than just being like what about the sentiment of this bill? Why don't you just vote purely on that? Here. That's how I answer yes

or no questions. By just shouting I'm here. Jack, you love your kids? Here. Do you ever just feel sorry for the people that go against what feels like the good or the love or the right choice? Does that make sense? Right, they're never happy, right?

I actually genuinely do feel sorry for the people that are so angry at others. Right. For me, it generally seems kind of illogical. It's a painful place, I think, to be in to be constantly in a state of hatred. Yeah, like I wake up every day and I go, and I've worked on it, the therapy thing. I wake up and I go,

oh, okay, this is nice. How can I be nice today? How can I do my life and be nice? My eyes have opened. And some people just wake up and go, I hate Muslims. Well, pardon me. Look, if you're in a position of power

and you can actually translate that hate into real world violence or disenfranchisement or oppression for other people, I don't give a fuck about you. Yeah, yeah. In fact, I need you to fall the fuck all the way back. And in fact, they're probably too busy winning from cynically manipulating those emotions of other people to feel the pain. Yeah. Regular people out there who have hate in your heart, look, I hope your eyes are open because that's not a way to live. It's not good for you.

It's toxic. It's literally not good for you. Yeah. It's toxic. That's what people don't understand. It's like road rage. When I see people just losing their fucking shit in a car, and I'm like, you know that that anger is not being transferred to the car ahead of you.

It's just you and now the passengers are stuck inside of your car. And your cells are on a cellular level. They've been like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, it's like drinking poison to try to kill somebody else. That's not how that works. Yeah, but you know, again,

the Republicans really, they just wanted to take this moment because they realize they're on the side of the worst president of all time. They're all in. It's like poker. Yeah. The woat, not the goat. The woat, worst of all time.

And they need as many distractions as they can. I mean, listen to even how Donald Trump was talking about the Democrats despite despite all of his racial racist commentary. Because it's become the Democrats have become an anti-Israel party. They become an anti-Jewish party. And I thought that vote was a disgrace. And so does everybody else. If you get an honest answer. Yeah. Look, what does he know about i like it yeah i like the honest answer so i hadn't fully understood that the dual allegiance thing was something that jewish people were sensitive about because it was one of hitler's early allegations about jews was that they weren't true germans they weren't truly allegiant to Germany and therefore he used that as justification

to persecute them. So I get the sensitivity. I just want to make sure that the people making the complaint about Ilhan Omar were also complaining when Donald Trump said during the Republican primary that

Jews didn't like him because he didn't give them money, but that he liked them because they're good at negotiations. And did we forget the good people on both sides? Right. Has anyone forgotten the day when Nazis killed someone? Right. Did anyone forget?

Right. I'm losing my mind. No, it's true. And I think that's why it's even more disheartening to see the Democratic leadership be like, Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's we want to change the optics around this situation by condemning that without just being like, excuse me.

Auntie, what? Really? Yeah. Mr. Fucking both sides. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Fucking both sides? Yeah.

If the people who get mad about Omar or anybody criticizing Israel also disavowed the president back when he said the first anti-Semitic thing, he said, I'm good. We can have a conversation. Until then, you can go fuck yourself. I would really enjoy someone to ask the president, tell me about Israel in past time. Go on, tell me the history. in person time don't tell me tell me the history right because i honestly i honestly don't know yeah i mean from what i don't really know but i feel like you two need to sort it out because i'm getting tired of it yeah netanyahu told me very bad they're very bad people they don't pay their taxes they they they use other

people's logins for netflix so they're just they're criminals. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he has no, He has no idea. He has no, yeah. And it's okay to not know. He doesn't know anything about history. Right. Like, it's okay to not,

this is to everyone listening, it's okay to not know. Just find out. Yeah. But he's one of, but it's precisely his psychology. He's like, he's one of those people

who never lets you know that he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And in fact, if you ask many people, many people, everybody's saying. Everyone's saying that I'm an expert on Israel, Palestine. Wow. Is that your Trump?

I don't know. I've never tried it. Yeah. Oh, that's, it felt very Trumpian. Oh, was it good? Yeah. All right. We can workshop it.

Good is a strong word. Let's talk about who the president hangs out with and takes pictures with. This is just a fun quick story. Just a good, a quick, let's call it a Google image search check-in. You can find the president in photographs with the founder of the massage parlor where Robert Kraft was caught soliciting sex. And these photographs are not like back in the 70s when they were both in college. They are from the past couple months. It's from Super Bowl Sunday.

Yes. This last Super Bowl when the fucking Patriots were winning. Yes. She took a selfie, this woman, Cindy Yang. I mean, she's not named in any of the charging documents because, you know, that whole bust uncovered an entire network of massage places that were just trafficking women right um but she began those businesses um and she herself apparently has another like a massage parlor spa that is under some police scrutiny for kind of the same thing where management is encouraging the employees to offer sex and

things like that you know it's interesting this woman, Cindy Yang, like she has a photo with so many Republican like leaders. Like she's got a Palin selfie. She's got one with Matt Gaetz. She's got one with Eric Trump, Don Jr. She's got them all. But again, you know, it's just interesting to see. Five pictures with President Trump. Yeah, she has another one where like straight up like them looks like a prom photo with like a backdrop.

And he signed it with his weird like EKG reading signature that looks like a heart monitor rhythm. But yeah, yeah, just an interesting photo that a lot of people were like, oh, wow. So this person's around Mar-a-Lago. And I don't even mean to say that this woman is directly implicated because I don't even want to – I'm not even trying to do that. But, again, interesting to see that. She was the owner of the massage parlor where Robert Kraft was caught soliciting sex. Right, and then that business was sold to these other people. And this is soliciting sex from human traffic people.

Yes. Correct? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Some bad news, I think, for everybody. I don't think there's anybody who isn't an Alex Trebek fan, slightly. And Alex Trebek has announced he has stage four pancreatic cancer, which just sucks.

Yeah, I don't really have anything to add about it other than that. He seemed, I he seemed he was very stoic when he announced it and it was it made it almost harder to watch in a way in a weird way like is he the Jeopardy guy yes how did he announce it did he announce it in a fun way he did it at the podium like he always does and I want to share with you a bit of personal news like that's how he did oh really yeah and it was very it was very straightforward he said I've to share with you a bit of personal news. Like that's how he did. Oh, really? Yeah, and it was very straightforward. He said, I've been diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer, but I'm going to fight this.

I will continue this season. Oh, good for him. Like he had a very positive attitude. But, you know, he's had a lot of health issues. And, yeah, it was very – I think, yeah, just he's one of those people who you just know and probably grown up with depending on how much Jeopardy you watch. But, yeah. Well, good luck to him.

It's good that he's like positive about it. Positive, yeah, yeah. You need to, right? Yeah, well, especially with – it's very serious. I mean, stage four is like – Yeah, they say 95% of the time. I just wish that he did it in the sort of Jeopardy style. Right.

Right, it's like – It doesn't look good. Yeah. And everyone's like, It doesn't look good. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh my God, Alex. Look, I'm trying to laugh about this. Right. Because he got it right. Yeah.

Yeah. And finally, a little bit of news from the UK. Oh, no. Can I just apologize now? I'm sure it's shit news. Kind of. Kind of. So Kensington Palace has made moves to tackle online abuse against Meghan Markle, basically.

There's been an uptick in hate speech towards her of late, I think, now that- What is wrong with people? Yeah. But it's weird because it seems like it's a very coordinated effort. They said that a sample of more than 5,000 tweets containing anti-Megan hashtags showed just horrifying racism, but also showed that 20 accounts were responsible for about 70% of the tweets. So it's like the Russian internet research society or whatever. Research agency. Research. The IRA is like out here being like,

nah, we got, we can't, we can't let this Meghan Markle. She's like a symbol of hope for the Western world or something. Also, she's a princess. Right.

Right. Fuck off. Like, do you know what I mean? Like she's a princess now. You think her, you think your little tweets are going to hurt her? Like, no, know what I mean? Like, she's a princess now. You think her, you think your little tweets are going to hurt her?

Right. Like, no, just stop. Get out of your basement. Look at the sun. Right. For a bit. And not look at the sun. Well, yeah.

I mean, if you're wasting your time posting dumb racist shit on the internet, why don't you take a long, hard look at the sun? Yeah. That's actually good. I like that better.

Take a long long hard look at yourself if you think they are not beyond saving but if they're beyond saving take a long hard look at the sun I just like the idea

of like a 56 year old man with a beer gut right in his garage or garage or whatever you say and he's just like oh I'm gonna show Megan

I'm gonna show her cause she's black I mean look what happened in this country. We had our first black president, and that opened the floodgates. Holy shit. So it makes sense that you have a woman of color coming into the royal family,

that there is some kind of backlash in that sense. Not justifying, but I'm like, this is the shit that happens. Isn't that why Princess Diana supposedly died? Because of Dodi Al-Fayed? Yeah. Right. Supposedly. That's a conspiracy, but it's an interesting one, certainly.

Yeah. One we talk about. I think we've talked about that with you last time. Potentially. Oh, and also, Mohamed Al-Fayed. Remember, he owned Fulham Football Club and had a statue of Michael Jackson outside of Craven Cottage. For real? Yeah, and then they took it down.

Oh, God. Yeah. He owned Harrods, right? I think. Dodi Al-Fayed. Yeah, he does. That was, right? I think. Dodi Al-Fayed. Yeah, he does, yeah. Anyway, that was man, I was really into that whole

Diana thing when I was like a kid. The conspiracy theories? Well, at first, I wasn't, like, the conspiracy theories weren't coming in, like, in 97 when it started happening, but, like, I remember I read everything about it for whatever reason. I don't know why. Well, I think it's because everyone was telling you to read it, right? Like, I remember being

in France when the news broke out and stuff. And because it was all in the news all the time, it was all in the papers, you naturally just go, oh, well, that's what's important now. And you just naturally just zombify yourself to whatever the headline is. Well, I think mine was because, again, I talk about this all the time, I have the same birthday as

Prince Harry. And I was like, oh, fuck, man. That could have been my mom. Right. In a way, she was everybody's mother. In that way. Thank you so much. And that's how I found peace. Right.

That's nice. Shit. So do you believe there's a conspiracy? Well, what I believe in is a life after love. Do you believe? 1999 has fucked my brain up. Thanks for sharing. The year 1999.

You're very welcome. Sharing. Hey, not the best in the biz for nothing. Eric, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Thanks for having me, guys. And I'm not just saying that because of the share pun, although that did help. Listeners, though, quickly, may I say,

I've got an album out called Alien of Extraordinary Ability. It's on Spotify and it's free. So, you know, if you don't like it halfway through, you can just stop. Just stop it. Yeah. Throw your phone out the window. Is there. Get so angry that take it out on your phone.

Where can people follow you in real time? All the social medias. That's basically it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Like, you know, I do some podcasts. I do some videos on YouTube and stuff.

But what's your handle? How do they find you? It's just's it. Like, you know, I do some podcasts. I do some videos on YouTube and stuff like that. But what's your handle? How do they find you? It's just my name. Eric Lampert. Okay. And spell that because people, look. L-A-M-P-A-R-T. Whoa.

But like the name will be in the descriptions, right? Right. Yeah. Just do some basic research, you lazy bastard. That's a very good point. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying, Eric? Is there a tweet I've been enjoying? Yes, actually, there is. So on on my timeline i retweeted it this is like maybe seven down uh there is a

person that said this is how i want to be displayed at my funeral and it's just a video of this person just sort of like hanging and being taken around a sort of theme park. But the juxtaposition between that person not enjoying themselves at the theme park and then the tagline, check out, you know, this is how I would read. Oh my, it's so weird. Wait, what is this, a ride? It looks like a woman on some kind of a railed zip line

just flying around this weird amusement space, but her body is so limp it looks like a corpse and i just watched it i watched it for like 20 times it's just simple things like that bring me joy because it does look like a corpse just on a ride uh i'm gonna retweet this now if you want to see it uh miles where can people find you oh god do we want to get into that you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray g-r-a-y not e-y

I see some of y'all misspelling my name respect my name put some respect on my name some tweets I like one is from Amber Nelson at Amber Smelson it says fun fact you can have a bunch of tattoos and also the personality of a Manila folder. Cause I think we all know somebody who is overly tattooed and you're like,

you are dull, my person. Uh, and another one from Samuel Moen, uh, at Samuel Moen. It says, let me,

let me just sing this. When I was just a little girl, I asked my mother, what will I be? Will I be pretty? Will I be rich? Here's what she said to me. You?

Long cigarette drag. No. Damn. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'brien a couple tweets windsor man mann tweeted wesley snipes was sentenced to three years in prison for misdemeanor tax evasion just a fact that you guys should know because uh yeah it seems like a double standard when you have paul manafort doing his shit. Yeah, really. And then Ellery Smith tweeted,

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