The Daily Zeitgeist - Mandela Effect Returns to Cinema, Reply Guy Fascism 11.29.22

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

In episode 1380, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Ian Lara, to discuss… Global Fascist Movement Taking Shape, Aspiring Fascists Meet with Florida Man - GOP ‘Outrage’ v Believable, Fascists Still Figuring Out How to Take Over…, Scorsese’s Fake Film (And Why The Mandela Effect Might Just Be Lazy Merch) and more! Global Fascist Movement Taking Shape What “longtermism” gets wrong about climate change Aspiring Fascists Meet with Florida Man - GOP ‘Outrage’ v Believable Trump talks with white nationalist Nick Fuentes at Mar-a-Lago dinner Scorsese’s Fake Film (And Why The Mandela Effect Might Just Be Lazy Merch) Did Martin Scorsese direct Goncharov 1973? Tumblr fiction debunked Martin Scorsese Jokingly Acknowledges Fake Internet-Invented Movie ‘Goncharov’: ‘I Made That Film Years Ago’ HOW A FAKE MARTIN SCORSESE MOVIE BECAME A REAL VIDEO GAME Tumblr wills fake 1973 Martin Scorsese movie called Goncharov into existence The Berenst(E)ain Bears Conspiracy Theory That Has Convinced the Internet There Are Parallel Universes LISTEN: White Horse by Laid BackSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 265, episode one of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Tuesday, November 29th, 2022, which of course means... Oh, Jack, it's the National Day of Giving, obviously, on the 29th, and then also Electronic Greetings Day. I don't know what that means.

That means a robot pulls up to you and is like, greetings. But it just says, it encourages you to send an electronic greeting. This feels like some shit that came out. I feel like this is from 96 or something. This was to try and train baby boomers for the coming email apocalypse that they weren't ready for. From sending an electronic greeting to a pal. Tell me what year you think this began. Because the answer is here in the description.

2000. It looks like it is coming around around 95. Wow. Yeah. So they were on it. Yeah, it said not long after the advent of the electronic email in 93, the electronic greeting came along in 94. So then they were like, okay, we got something.

No wonder baby boomers are so good at the internet and, you know, doing things on facebook and stuff yeah they've been training they've been in a cutting edge yeah well my name is jack o'brien aka i am 10 percent gravy 20 percent yams 15 percent concentrated honey baked ham 5 percent stuffing 50 percent pie and 100 reasons i could lay down and die that is courtesy of scatty magoo and the discord shout out to discord zeitgang for surfacing it on twitter man i ate so much so much thanksgiving this weekend i brag about it i mean i can't not brag about it. I was actually kind of impressed. I actually went out and bought extra gravy and stuffing the day after Thanksgiving to just like kind of keep the turkey rolling.

Oh, like it wasn't. Oh, because you're like, I ran out of the other parts. Yeah, I ran out of the good parts to make the turkey delicious. And so I highly recommend add a little cranberry. Yeah. I also kind of fucked up thanksgiving dinner it wasn't that good so i had to i had to augment uh anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles yes straight from his uh turkey induced slumber he is up uh woke up on status. It's miles full of gravy. I made my first turkey this Thanksgiving.

Turned out really well, actually. Shout out. Shout out brining your turkey. You brine that shit? I was just going to ask. Oh, yeah. Brine that. Brine that motherfucker.

That is the secret. Yes. And then you got to put the foil. You got to protect the breast meat because it overcooks very easily. I learned a lot. I learned a lot. And made my own gravy, which I drank very diligently. Straight to the dome. Yeah, yeah. Always.

Always. Yeah. I made Thanksgiving turkey the past two Thanksgivings, but didn't make it this year, and I am retroactively impressed with my turkey-making skills, because the turkey that we got from the grocery store

didn't live up to the standards. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest comedians doing it. You can check out his hour special on HBO Max now. It premiered November 11th. It's called Romantic Comedy. He's called Ian Lauren! Ian!

What's up, Ian? Welcome, Ian. Hey, guys. Nothing much, man. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. That was a great intro. Hey, man. It's good a great intro hey it's good to have you it's good to have you how was your Thanksgiving man what the energy it was good it was good uh my brother just purchased a new home so he wanted to host Thanksgiving so we went out there I'm from New York it was in Jersey

we did this it was the first time we did this because we are like a big family. We rented a tent, a heated tent, and it was just in the backyard. Wow. Like a wedding. It was only like, yeah, like a wedding style. Yeah. Which was good because we all fit. But it's very hard to get like an outdoor tent to room temperature. Like it's either way too hot or way too cold. So like it was we were battling that all night like because it has a heater but the heater makes it 100 degrees and you turn off the

heater and it's 30 degrees right right right so what did you end up settling on like half like coat half on and then like keep half your body out the tent like every five minutes sort of thing we never settled we were just all uncomfortable the whole night sort of thing we never settled we were just all uncomfortable the whole night like a turkey you were in a uh roasting bag yeah right yeah no one was comfortable yeah wow yeah outdoor tent okay how many so how many but i recommend i recommend an outdoor tent if you want to keep people out of your home yeah right it was about 30 people, maybe 35 people. Yeah. Okay. Which is nice because he was like, come see my home, but also I don't want you in the outside. Right, right, right. I'll give you the tour through the windows.

I'll be like, and this up here is the... Yeah, I respect it. Give me your phone real quick. I'll record a video while I'm in there, and then I'll bring it back out to you. You can look at it. That is some shrew is some tactical Thanksgiving hosting. I appreciate it. Right.

All right. And we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. I felt like fascism had a good Thanksgiving break for some reason. Like Elon Musk, just more and more mask off all about this fascism, you know, the ethical or no effective altruism continues to be a thing. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Trump's Thanksgiving dinner with Kanye and Nick Fuentes as it relates to that, You know, plenty of that stuff. Then we're also

going to talk about the latest addition to the Mandela effect, a film by the name of Goncharov, Goncharov, which I didn't know didn't exist, but apparently it's a movie that doesn't exist, but that Tumblr has put into the ether as the latest Shazam. I guess that's the most popular Mandela effect movie, movie that doesn't exist. Right. That's the one Mandela effect thing that actually got me. I was able to picture the Sinbad genie.

But you're just missaying the name. Is there a Sinbad Genie movie? Kazam. No, that's no. That's like a myth, isn't it? Wait, who are you saying? Wait, who? Who's Sinbad?

Oh, he says Sinbad. Oh, right, right, right. I'm always thinking of Kazam. That's like a myth. Right, right, right. That's that. I don't know. You know what it was?

I think we were just talking about Sinbad and how he had a stroke two years ago, and we had heard from him, and I was like, oh, I forgot about him, to the point that I think I completely even misremembered the misremembering. But I'll always remember Kazam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kazam, for sure. I think I had subbed Sinbad in for Shaq and changed the title of that because I definitely see Sinbad with his arms crossed out in front of him like a like a genie for some reason. Right. Even though I've probably never seen him do that anyway.

Well, that's a thing, though. You guys, that's like a thing. There's like a massive conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to get into it. I thought I saw it, too. i thought i saw it too i thought i saw it too but i think that's the one like i think we should focus on that the it shouldn't be the mandela effect it should be the simbad genie movie effect because that's the that's that berenstain bears gets brought up a lot and we'll talk about that but that that's the least interesting one to me because it's just a spelling pronunciation well yeah yeah yeah it's a fucking spelling it's yeah i misspelled a lot of shit in my when i was a kid you know i mean i loved shack uh opposite arnold schwarzenegger and jingle all the way right that was fantastic yeah yeah so you just get them all like like they neither of them should be associated with the

other but for some reason my brain just made that switch. Anyways, all of that, plenty more. But first, Ian, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, this is like a weird one because I was told I needed to get one. So I looked at my search history. Long story short, I had my battery died in my car like it just ran out like the battery just died and i didn't have a portable battery pack and i was with a lady at the time and she told me that every man should have a portable battery pack in their car to give themselves a boost so i actually googled should a man have a portable battery fellas is it gay to have battery packs in the car yeah right so that was my last search last night turns out yes i ordered one and it just got here

there you go battery back all right yeah i'm a man yeah yeah i remember like i remember in the early days when like my smartphone usage went up and and I used to have a case that had a battery on it because I just remember there's no way I could be out and about, get through my whole day, and then have my phone make it. And then as those little battery packs became smaller and smaller, I definitely converted to have them. Whenever I travel, I just have one in my bag or whatever. It's very useful.

I'm talking about a big one, my bag or whatever. It's very useful. I'm talking about a big one, like to give your car battery a jump. Oh, oh, oh, oh, that big. Oh, like one of those emergency start. Yeah, emergency. I don't know why I pivoted to fucking cell phone anyway. It shows you how blue I am. Wait, you were saying, yeah, I've got an Anker external battery charger? Dude, I got so mixed up. I've got an anchor external battery charger. I was.

Dude, I got so mixed up. I'm thinking about my own phone battery. I was going to be out on the tundra with a dead battery, a car with a dead battery. Like, no, don't worry. I got this. I got a backup battery. Y'all, we're good. I got this right here.

Bring that truck over here. Where's the USB port for it i was i do feel like a woman should have a portable external emergency battery charger too maybe even more so so the so that they don't have to rely on some creep oh so you're oh oh and that's it yeah yeah i love that she made it like a gender thing i know it shouldn't be a gender thing that humans just have a portable battery pack yeah man's gotta have a code and so so should a woman yeah yeah it feels it feels like one of those lessons like my mom would teach me like as a kid where it's just like and that's why you fucked up again basically sort of the thing right oh wow your battery went out or my mom's like i told you

to get that battery right see and that's the problem you don't listen no but it's like it's like a lifesaver like as i mean i recommend everybody go on amazon buy a portable battery pack yeah your battery dies you don't gotta ask nothing you look like such a man just going to your trunk putting out a thing you're like babe i'll take care of this and right now you're up and running yeah we don't save lives often on this podcast, but it feels good when we do. So I appreciate it, Ian. What is, uh, what's something you think is overrated? All right. I've been like on a thing about this.

I think that people who order their steak rare, like the rawest form, it's like very overrated. I don't actually believe anyone enjoys it. I think it's a pretentious thing where like you have to say you enjoy it to show how eloquent your palate is but i don't think anyone actually thinks it tastes good like to eat a rare like a like a blue steak like yeah like a anything anything under medium i don't think people enjoy okay so meat so medium rare you're taking that into so you're saying like yeah i'm like you're this you're eating you're like this wow wow i'm see i'm i'm mid-rare i'm mr mid-rare and i have sometimes i i used to be the opposite i'm like yeah man you fooling around

overcooking your steaks and things like that then my life became a little more complex and i realized there are bigger things to give a fuck about than being like how you get your how to get your meat cooked but i do think for me it's more the texture because when it gets the more you cook it it's just harder to chew and that's sure i'll take it from there the flavor that's to each their own i think i could take the texture i prefer a little less i mean i don't think i think well done is crazy too i think that's like there's no flavor or in the texture but like i think there's a middle balance for everyone right people just try like and i like i went i've been on a tip because i because like i've been going out on these dinners like these you go on dinners with like agents or whatever and you like see people try to outrear each other like to show how

sophisticated they are right right right and i'm like I know he asked for it extremely unhealthily rare. Take it a notch rarer than that for me. Right. Whatever he did three minutes earlier, take mine's off. I'm like, you guys don't need to do this. We can order it how you want it. I do feel like the cook is what gives it a lot of the flavor when it gets cooked, know so yeah i i am

a medium rare person but all the flavor comes from the parts that are cooked on the outside and then i like the softness on the in the middle i've had steak that's so rare and this is again me just bragging and showing how sophisticated i've had steak so rare though that like it the rare part isn't even like soft because it's so do you know what I mean like it it hasn't even been cooked enough to get rare like you still like you're in like wolf mode yeah it's still like it's like chewy and like hasn't been broken down I need it to be cooked like I need the heat to hit every part of the meat a little bit just a little bit yeah just a little bit you don't want the fat to be every part of the meat a little bit just a little bit yeah just a little bit you don't want the fat to be like white in the middle like yo did any heat get in here

like right yeah we're good yeah i need the juices you know the juices well i'll say i'll say it's just overrated it's not like medium is fine medium but yeah let's not yeah let's not race yeah who can get it more bloody either like right people are like, how would you like yours, sir? Just call the health department on your side. That's how rare I want this shit to be. Apparently, I learned this. I went down a rabbit hole with this steak stuff. I learned this.

The red stuff that's in the meat, it's not blood. People think it's blood. It's not blood. It's just like water. Beet juice? It's beyond blood what's uh what's something you think is underrated oh i think uh i'm i'm a i think cranberry juice is underrated like i'll order a cranberry juice people always think you have a uti when you just order a cranberry juice right but uh but i i enjoy just drinking a cranberry juice i feel like we need to normalize ordering cranberry juices without uti wow wait just on ice

little soda yeah just on ice just yeah just on ice okay and then is that like is that you at a bar and then you're like you don't want to drink so you get the mixer or do you even look you're like no there's this one i'll go to the store to get a kind of cranberry juice. That's a nice sipper. Both, both. Like if I don't want to drink, I'll get a cranberry juice. I'll have a cranberry juice with like dinner. I'll have like any time juice is around. I'm like, is there cranberry juice? Wow. I like dinner. It's like wine or something. You're like, yeah something. Yeah, I put it in a chalice. Yeah, yeah. These cranberries come from Boston.

Notes of the bog. There's a peatiness to the cranberry. I feel like it's definitely one of the more complex juices. Definitely one of the more allowable juices. You can't order apple juice at a steak restaurant, I feel like. Unless you're a child. one of the more allowable juices like you can't order apple juice at a steak restaurant i feel like but oh yeah no unless you're a child you know but yeah even then even then they're like

get the wine he's what is he six yeah i like that i'm gonna try that i just want to have a glass of cranberry juice and a wine goblet and a wine but yeah yeah just you know because we just our last guest too uh that was on yesterday rowan he was talking about how like he's like man red wine is so overrated he's like this is too complex you drink it with stuff and he's like a big food guy to say like the experience of like having to drink super complex red wine with food is just a little weird and like kind of you know there's better ways the better ways to enjoy wine yeah and you're a red wine guy right i'm a i'm a red wine guy yeah you talked about that in your special yeah yeah yeah yeah i i uh

yeah i i love a red wine i i got into it during the pandemic okay okay see and like just like in your stand-up when will when will the rappers embrace their wine drinking and let that come out in the lyrics? Because we see like so many players in the NBA, they're like, we love red, like they're becoming wine. Yeah.

It's a thing now. Yeah. I mean, to this point, I feel like the beastie boys are the only people to wrap Chateauneuf de Pop in their lyrics. So maybe, you know, we could have I don't know what

Snoop has the wine now Oh, he does? Yeah, he has a thing of 19 crimes He has his own brand of it Oh, yeah, that's right See, bring that in the verses, Snoop Yeah Yeah

Snoop can get away with whatever he wants. Cause he's like such a connoisseur of, of weed that everyone's just like, well, he's, he's high. Yeah. He's high.

So like, has anyone actually tasted 19 crimes? It's the 20th might be drinking it. I, I, I like 19 crimes. There's like my favorite, like low,

like cheap wine. Oh, so it is good. Okay. I'm, that's what I'm trying to find out. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Like, yeah, it's good. There's like my favorite, like low, like cheap wine. Oh, so it is good. Okay. That's what I'm trying to find out. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Like, yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah. People drink it. People like it. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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is kind of coming out and starting to ban anti-fascist groups let all the fascists back on just like basically coming coming out of the closet as a full-fledged like right wing these are some people are calling him a right-wing troll but it really feels like he he's at the spearhead now of this like new fascist movement we also talked about the effect of altruism, which is basically a giant venture capital backed philosophy that focuses on the potential dangers of the robot apocalypse instead of climate change, because people from poor countries' lives don't matter as much, according to their philosophy. And Elon Musk came out and has said like, that's actually one of, this is a pretty good match for my philosophy. And it all just feels like it is this big superstructure of like extremely wealthy people, like intermingling, you know,

the venture capitals philosophy is obviously going to be influenced by the fact that the people who make the most money to this day are fossil fuel companies. And so, you know, wherever the money is, that's where like the gravitational pull of truth goes for a lot of people. And, you know, that brings us to Elon Musk, who's the wealthiest person in the world. And according to American philosophy, you know, America's mythos is basically like, well, if he's the richest, then he's the most right. And he's, you know, if you if you were so smart, why aren't you as rich as him? him and i i do it's easy to like dismiss all the super famous people who are either like flirting with or like fully embracing fascism but it it just it does feel like we're in a worse place than we were than we've ever been with regards to the rise of fascism now that he's taken over Twitter, is like openly using Twitter as a tool to kind of institute, instill his values, still has a huge following of people who, you

know, I've had relatives who are like, Elon Musk is, talk about the brain on that guy. You know, they're not like, I'm all about his philosophy and his politics, but they do think because of how rich he is, he is like the smartest among us. And it's just like there's a lot of really significant, powerful people who are kind of coming together and cohering around this overall fascist movement yeah i think it's yeah there's so much of it to me that's like like especially from people like the effective altruism movement and other like hyper wealthy people it's more i don't even they don't realize what that they're they're sort of drifting towards fascism. I think the way they look at it is, man, poor people are tripping. Right.

And we got to figure out how to get ahead of a lot of this stuff. And that's why effective altruism is a way to be like, well, when automation takes all their jobs, what do we do with all the poor people that will be tripping because there's not going to be

the same levels of opportunity, et cetera. So we need to find a way to, to sort of, I don't know, soften that landing because that is the, like, that is the nightmare scenario or a lot of these industries that are like trying to automate.

And then with a flick of a switch, they're like, yeah, we're going to mostly automated and we don't really have a plan for all the people who don't have jobs anymore. Or like with Twitter, it's like, you see how a lot of like activist people on Twitter are bringing more,

you know, consciousness to like cash bail problems in New York or police brutality in L.A., deputy gangs and things like that. And just in general, it's like I think they want to really rebalance the scales in terms of who's getting to speak. So it's easier now. Like they're all sort of coalescing around each other who are similarly being like yeah there's a there is sort of a movement we need to blunt because whether it's look people looking for increased wages or just equitable rights and things like that that there's that there's like a there's momentum that they're up against that clearly is you know something they want to push back against yeah at. At the very least, they're giving the wealthiest people and like wealthiest companies in the world, like giant fossil fuel companies, a

fashionable and acceptable and already extremely well-funded alternative to the version of reality where they have caused the vast majority of climate change that is like killing, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. And, you know, this is an alternative where it's like, no, it's actually not that bad. And, you know, this this worldview has has come through that will support those ideals in the same way that eugenics was very popular at the turn of the 20th century, even in like at Oxford and is, you know, the youngest philosophy professor at Oxford that Oxford has ever like granted that position. Also, he just released his new book, or I guess he released it a while back, but somebody did a review of his because they were like, it's weird how much how quickly he like blows past climate change as a threat to humanity and they like went and reached out to all of his sources for all those

claims like he's like and i consulted all these major climate scientists on to to back me up here and they actually reached out to those climate scientists and they're like we don't know this guy we we have no no clue who he is he didn't reach out to us for any of he didn't reach out to us about the important claim that like you know even 10 degrees of warming is not a big deal so i mean he's he's a fraud but again not one who will be found out any more than Elon Musk will be. Elon Musk is just retweeting right-wing talking points like you had the one about. Stay woke shirts stem from the Ferguson protests. Obama's own DOJ proved this and exonerated the cop. Hands up, don't shoot was made up.

The whole thing was a fiction. Just straightforward right-wing shit like some some shit about you know he responded to a story about immigration with like a right-wing talking point he and then he's just banning all these anti-fascist like accounts in a way that's like yeah he's not even really trying to hide it and it is tough to take seriously because it's like he's so he's just the worst poster in the history of twitter like he just like responds with crying laughing emojis over and over but yeah i don't know i like growing up in the 80s and 90s it was always one of the weirdest possibilities to imagine is that like famous mainstream pop culture icons who host SNL would be embracing fascism or at least would be like, you know, not willing to disavow it and, you know, getting on board. And I guess

like early 20th century, you had like Henry Fordd and charles limberg and possibly walt disney but i i don't know i think it's time to admit that that's where we're at we're kind of at the height of fascism's popularity in the u.s and it's it's like a growing movement but what yeah what that's i mean i think that's why it's able to it's it's not it doesn't have like big capital f fascism like the look to it where a lot of people are just splintering offers like i like this guy oh and they don't oh okay i'm with this guy because i like what he says i like what they do then that's i'm more focused on that than what is it's what it's actually encompassing like the fact that elon musk like has no real consistent definition

of what like freedom of speech or censorship is and he's just acting you know he's just reacting to shit based on people dunking on him on his own app and then suddenly people get these 24-hour bans yeah wow but i i mean i think the jet the broad like mainstream media narrative right now is like that the energy is flagging right that like trump the mainstream republican party doesn't want trump around and that there was some meal where he met with nick fuentes who is yeah like all the all the parts of fascism like anti-semi hate speech uh pro-authoritarian and yeah this this is he just had had a meal with him, right? Yeah, they so the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Nick Fuentes and Kanye West go over there to have dinner. This is apparently where I don't know if you saw Kanye posted like some post like meetup video where allegedly Trump, I guess, jeed up on him. And he's like, yo, you don't want to run for president.

And basically like you will you will will just get crushed my man. And he was like, and why would he do that? You know, because I'm a loyalist. And then he's went on ranting about some nonsense. So anyway, I'm, so I'm not really surprised that Trump met with them because it's further indicate indication. He's just trying to see what kind of base he can create on his way to another presidential run. And I think most people know obviously about Kanye's worldview at this point. But Nick Fuentes is a completely different quantity altogether. Like he is a consistent Holocaust denier. Recently said we played a clip of him recently after the midterms or he like when the Republicans didn't win. He's like, you know what? If they're not with what the Republicans think, we just need to we just need to force them into

believing what we believe. And we just need to take the power back and i don't care if they outnumber us we just need to force people into believing this so we can just move forward with our like sort of ethno-nationalistic worldview and you know apparently the meeting went really well because nick fuentes just like yes and did everything trump said and then praised everything he did. Like this was an actual, actual exchange based on some of the reporting from what happened at Mar-a-Lago. Like Trump was, I guess, complaining about,

man, my, all these advisors, they want me to speak on a teleprompter. They don't let me just, they don't let me freestyle like I used to. And I would just say all the kind of off the wild stuff. And apparently he,

he asked Fuentes quote, you like it better when i just speak off the cuff like he asked nick fuentes that like so you you do that and apparently fuentes said it was an it was amazing when the president was quote unrestrained so meanwhile like the other politicians on the right acted surprised presumably because they got confused whether or not they were speaking in public or not about you you know, discrimination or things like that. Mike Pompeo was like, anti-Semitism is a cancer. Asa Hutchinson, who's also running for president, he's like, I don't think it's a good idea for a leader that's setting an example for the country

or the party to meet with an avowed racist or anti-Semite. Kevin McCarthy, potential speaker, crickets. But Trump right he didn't say anything he didn't say a lot of people were just like ah well you know we did we do this all the time with him when he meets with like literal like clan members or like you know the ghost of hitler but trump defended the meeting he's saying he didn't know flintus he's like oh i don't know him uh but trump does that all the time when he meets with like white supremacy he's like oh i don't oh i i've never seen this person before the person who i pose with pictures all the time which is obviously bullshit because you can't just pull up to eat dinner with a president without the fucking secret service like knowing who you are deep background on everybody involved and then

this was they've all they've met before so it's not yeah and he's retweeted his videos then trump said this too because they're talking about, well, man, you met up with Kanye. What's going on with that? He said, quote, he said, I'm just trying to help this trouble young man out. He said, quote, so I help a seriously troubled man

who just happens to be black. I'm wait, what is that part of the quote? And then he said, yay, who has been decimated in this business and virtually everything else. And it was always been good to me by allowing his request for me to meet at the Mar-a-Lago alone, blah, blah, blah.

He said he wanted to give him advice. So, yeah, very, very, very wild things going on. But it looks like these power hungry, like people like Nick Fuentes, who, again, he said Trump wasn't extreme enough. That used to be his complaint when Trump was in power was like, he's like, man, Trump's playing around with all this shit like he needs to turn it up. Now they found a way to charm the old man who's going to be running for president. So, you know, starting to see things a lot.

So a Kanye Trump ticket like them, them running together probably seems unlikely at this point. He's apparently that's what Kanye said to him. He's like, you should we should run together. And Trump's like, no, you will be destroyed the way i don't i don't know i can't believe anybody when they say what happened in this meeting but like it seems like the one consistent thing based on the reporting is trump tried to very much discourage him from running yeah i think i think they have the same kind of a little bit i think the base is intertwined with each other so i think trump is like hey man you're just gonna take votes away from me and you're not gonna win so and kanye is like votes who needs what are votes really yeah he's like i'm here on a vibe ticket. Like, okay, sure.

But, I mean, I think that's a vibe. We'll see what happens because you can also see, like, if Nick Fuentes is now looking at Kanye and thinking, oh, I can use this, you know, this person as another vessel to spread, like, whatever my messaging is. I'm like, maybe I can run with him, whatever. But it's just a very – very you got an interesting mix of people who are looking for power or ways to maintain it and when you have people like nick fuentes who like apparently just knows how to charm donald trump

when like the previous white house they had like entire departments built on like keeping these people away from trump because he's so easily flattered you don't know yeah who knows what the rhetoric looks like this next campaign it's not that difficult of an art to master you just agree with everything he says and tell him he's the greatest i think yeah it's i think it's a low i think it's a very low bar to like charm uh like an elderly old white man who's like somewhat powerful pathological narcissist narcissist. Oh, Donald, baby. Whoa, whoa. I want to get like you, Donald.

Look at that. Wow. The toilet gold? Man, hold on. I'll get my phone now. Man, the toilet gold in here. Man, you're doing it right, Donald. Yeah, I am doing it right.

It feels like. Damn, you could be his VP. In all fairness, I feel like it hasn't been tested like against donald has been tested like because we see people just compliment like you have to give him three compliments before you actually say any type of opinion on anything he's done yeah you have to congratulate him and give him three compliments it's a compliment dagwood right you've never seen it applied to somebody else like what if that actually works with everyone we just never seen it we just think we just think it's holy trouble what if i was like

you know this is like you guys are the king of podcasting i this is the best thing i've ever been part of you just open up every interview just giving a thousand compliments yeah and see see how hard it is for you not to feel flattered and be like i like this guy he's not a bad guy oh it definitely works it's just it it's at a certain point you have to be able to differentiate somebody just telling you what you want to hear while manipulating you and it does seem like he's kind of incapable of that but yeah well because that's what all those people with the kraken lawsuits they run up they ran up in there and they were just like, they just told him everything he wanted to hear. And then they suddenly became his legal team, who was like on the verge of being disbarred from practicing law at all. So like, it's just wild how it's just like that level of babysitting. We're like, don't, it's like somebody's like old homies from like when he was like in high school come back to like he was doing so much better but the second these motherfuckers get in here he's gonna be right back to his bullshit i don't know what the fuck they say to him but he will we made so much progress and now he's he went to the store and he's i think he's just

wrapping up a fucking eighth in a fonta leaf he He quit smoking. Well, I think you, you, you literally have to like find out what his advisors are telling him and just say the opposite. Like, because he believes the opposite. So you just have to go with whatever they're saying. They're wrong. You're right. Which is a little bit like,

it's not just flattering. It's like, you have to make them think his views and perspective are grounded and right. Yeah. And yeah, doing like the man like the will smith like parents just don't understand kind of energy like when talking about his advisors he's like what the lawyers say man they don't get it man right right exactly exactly then boom you're off to the races these attorneys that have been in politics their whole

entire lives have no idea what they're talking about right we we know we know what we're talking about right but elon coming out as fascist like on twitter and as the head of twitter like that's definitely gonna empower him to ignore the the advisors more like i feel like we're about to see a more unhinged version well he's already coming at apple right elon musk is coming like so part of me is like oh i think i think honestly for him too he just wants to be the main character elon yeah elon musk yeah and right now by by messing around in twitter like it keeps like twitter isn't even twitter anymore like in the sense or like i don't think twitter died in that like man it's nothing like it used to be twitter's just become like about elon musk like for the last couple weeks in that

sense like it's yes he's very much centered himself like now is there no rules now could you just say anything it looks like it anything except criticizing elon musk yeah don't say it seems to be the thing that gets you banned now don't or or anything that is anti-fascist in a in a way that is that catches their attention which is why you don't want to say like don't bring up like tesla autopilot crashes and post a video about it that's like i remember early on it seemed like that's how people have been like let me see if i can get this this thread viral and if it will affect me. And sometimes, like, things disappear, etc.

But, I mean, yeah, now he's, I think every single thing he does, he realizes how much, like, it reverberates and gets media coverage. So he's sort of like when Trump was in office, he's like, wow, look at this. Like, I move my arm and then everybody's writing about it. And he's completely has, like, lost track of, I think, whatever he thought he was going to be doing there yeah yeah i think i think it kind of shows innately like there's like a if you look it's like a such a humanness to it the fact that we're like we try to differentiate by our views by the way we love how we vote whatever but at the end of the day we're just humans that have like the same feelings like so it's like elon bought twitter to make it like some free speech say

whatever you want but then he buys it and if you say anything bad about him he kicks you off which is like this is uh this is what you were fighting against right this is like the thing that you were going against but now you're the owner and you're like oh i don't like it when they talk about me you can talk about anything else just not about me that's like the same thing with both sides right in comedy like there's a right wing side that's like oh these left wing they're so sensitive you can't joke about anything if you make a joke about them they all get offended but do a trump joke in a right wing audience and you lose all of them completely right they'll start booing you you saw the video that went viral one threw a beer on stage like everyone is the same like we're all the same yeah they're very very thin-skinned

and they really don't like if a if a woman disagrees with them it seems like for some reason i don't know no clue why it might be inbuilt in that yeah there will be yeah yeah what's going on with herschel walk, though? Because I know voting has opened for the runoff. So the youth vote clearly helped augment the support of the Democrats in the midterms. And we talked about how these Republicans were like, man, you shouldn't be able to fucking vote until you're at least 27. This life changing power that you're going to have by voting. This is nonsense. We can't trust these kids to fucking

vote. So we've seen that. That's even bubbling on the surface this whole time. But then Herschel Walker, who is very much a resident of Texas, that was like the last bit of news that came out of last week. He was claiming tax benefits for his residence in Texas, but

it's the only kind of tax benefit you can claim if you say, that's my primary residence. So that's been a whole thing in the background and trying to determine, is he actually eligible to run as a Senate for the office of Senate in the state of Georgia? TBD there. But he's already off to a bungling start to his runoff campaign. off to you know a bungling start to his runoff campaign i just want to play one clip where he's just talking about again like this is sort of the the latest sort of rhetorical uh stance for republicans especially when talking about young people it's like hey if you don't like america and you want to complain about it hey get the fuck out of here basically so here's just this is how he's sort of kicking off his his uh runoff campaign and i'm just it is a it's a shame it's horrible like that and i say it is sad but

you know if you love america if you love america you got to fight for america i told people this and i want all the african-americans out of here all the white america all the latina america all america if you don't like America, you can go to the country you like because we don't, we're not going to hold you here. We're not going to hold you. You can go somewhere. Oh, okay. Okay. Does that work the other way too? What if the people don't like where they're at? Can they come here? Right? No, no, no. I'm just, I want to make sure we, we're, we're, we're keeping it as consistent as possible here with that policy. So again, he's just saying, if you don't like it, get out of here. These young kids don't know what they're talking about.

And the Republic, they did their darndest to prevent people from voting over the holiday weekend, you know, because people like are less likely to have to go to work and might have more time to like vote in a runoff election. But the courts prevailed and many people, especially college kids, waited in long lines to try and, you know, vote in a runoff election. But the courts prevailed and many people, especially college kids waited in long lines to try and, you know, vote in this runoff. And while this was happening, he,

the media tour continued and Herschel Walker goes on this podcast with some right wing lady of, I'm not too sure of, but they go on to just talk about how out of touch young, maybe how out of touch they are, but also how out of touch these young people are. And this is just a really interesting clip because you're watching these three older people who are like rah-rah for the Republican Party, like come to grips with understanding how young people think or that their lives could be different? I'll play like a bit of this clip because it is it is interesting to hear them sort of be confused and try and figure out like what what's with young people, though? And what's going on with them?

Herschel, how do you feel about people that want to change America from when you and I were kids? I mean, I mean, there's you know, we have I guess it's 80 to 90 or 70 to 80 million people in America that were born after 1990. Oh, so these are kids who, you know, who grew up, you know, when they were 10 years of age with the with the real beginning of the computers and the Internet at home. So they don't know the world that we know pre Internet. home. So they don't know the world that we know pre-internet. They don't know that the bullying was not really, we may have been bullied when we were kids, you know, in a class or teased and things like that, but not the type of culture that these kids have with the internet today. What do you say to those kids and those young people that are voting? Well, first of all, they don't know that the grass is not green on the other side,

that they think they're somewhere better. And if they know another place is better than the United States of America, my thing is, why don't you go there or tell me, let me know who that is, because I can tell them right now that's not. I think our biggest problem is we've not shown our kids that most of the people today hadn't earned their right to change America. And what I mean by that, there are people that have died or not given their life up. There are people that have given their life up to this flag. They've given this life up for the national anthem. They've given their life up for our freedom and

these liberties that we have in this country today, and we're taking it for granted. Well, I don't want that to happen. And I'm saying, and I'm not being tough, I'm saying if you know a place better, you go there, but you lose your citizenship here in the United States of America. you know a place better you go there but you lose your citizenship here in the united states of america okay so very that seems like a consistent talking point it's like he just wants to i mean it's as consistent as like that like uncle in your family who's like if you don't like it then go somewhere else kind of thing where it's like it's such an easy argument it's yeah it's like i can't believe a pilot just making an argument such like a flawed and simplistic right simplification of a topic but it's like but again is that is that same logic

or level of understanding applied to people who are trying to like escape their countries and seek stability in the united states is it the same thing in that instance where it's like well if you don't like it you can get out of here unless you're trying to come here in which case don't come fucking here but it's like a one-in-one-out kind of situation it's really that's like it's it's it's i think just the paper is over the fact that their whole thing is like i think they're reducing a lot of younger voters who are saying like things can be better in this country to just sort of saying man they, they think everything is so bad here. They should check somewhere else out. I mean, and also like, don't they remember the America we grew up in? No, because I didn't fucking grow up in the time you fucking grew up.

Like, do they understand even like the passage of time at all? Like as a concept, do they think whatever experiences they had are universal? Because they're sort of like, man, if they had what I had, they wouldn't think this because they had this Internet and all this. And it's that's why they're it's just it really it just shows how confused they are. It's like it kind of even hurts me to try and understand the confusion over there. Yeah, their complaint seems to be, be yeah with the passage of time and the fact the demographic makeup of the country the fact that there are so many young people so i i would just invite them to go to a different country that has a different demographic makeup

or you know there are plenty of retirement communities in florida where they can just kind of go and not deal with the internet and ignore Facebook and, you know, like that. They seem to have their fair share of complaints. They seem to think that the country is being taken over by demon possession. So I don't know why we're being told we have to leave. I can't imagine being like, I mean, I'm only 32. I was born in 1990. So I'm literally one of the people they're talking about. But I can't imagine being like 65 years old or in my six or whatever and thinking like need that. We have to stop the young people who have their entire lives ahead of them. We have to stop them so we can live how I grew up when I have my whole life behind me and not my whole life, but you know,

I mean, my later years of life, we have to go back to what I. And it happens with every generation. Like every generation is like scared of the technology that, and the young people that are coming up behind them. But they usually don't like make it their entire political stance and belief that like, well, because these kids listen to rock music and dance at sock hops that we should like take over, have a fascist take over of the government and become authoritarians. They usually just, you know, sit back and complain on their front porch and eventually look silly. Like good Americans, whatever happened to just giving up after a certain age? I'm done. I'm not fighting this anymore. Right. They're like, why haven't they given the fuck up?

Fuck is wrong with these kids, man. Just accept it. And look, I, like, you see, I'm a millennial, but you see, like, sometimes, Gen Z, some stuff I look at, I'm like, that's not me. I mean, I'm only 32, but I'm like, I'm not, I'm not part of that.

This is their, this is like their thing now. They're in their 20s. They do this. I don't do that anymore. Like, I, you know, I grew up in that middle time of the 90s.

It was like, I'm giving up at 32. I encourage people right see like i'm holding on man exactly you just have to there's a process of being like you know what i'm fucking washed okay right and it's a relief there's a relief to it and you go yeah good i'm glad these kids with all the tie-dye and crocs on are taking up the mantle and driving the shit forward because I'm tired. And you know what? I'm fine wearing my same hoodie and jeans combo with sneakers that I've been wearing since the 90s.

I'm good there. I'm comfortable and I respect the children. I do not want to get in their way. Like, it's this wild as a philosophy when you're like as a political party, your your your vision for the future is we gotta stop these young motherfuckers right like yeah yeah we gotta stop them until they get old right and we let them vote like at a certain age once they're old we let them vote this thing's i mean it's just it's it's it's crazy to see like where where where we are i mean everybody lives in their own like reality like when i mean and i'm, I'm not saying that every

young person has the right thing. We're humans. Some people have good ideas. Some people have bad ideas. But what confuses me is as a political party, if your whole platform is based on people not voting, that is inherently strange. To win, you have to stop your population from voting because if everyone voted it would be a landslide loss right and that in itself should be like hey maybe maybe i'll take it easy on yeah maybe we're the bad guys yeah i mean young people are motivated to vote more now than they were when these old ass people were young because when they were young they were busy just changing from you know being hippies or a generation associated with hippies to being you know capitalist yuppies and like so that's how they dealt with it and they're like why can't you

guys be realistic and the answer is because we have to live on this planet that you have fucked up so badly so we're dealing with different we're dealing with different motivating factors you're out of here in 20 years we're still dealing with like

trying to clean up the trash you know? I think the Republican Party I think they messed up with uh roe v wade i mean i think they literally gave a battery to a you know a group that wasn't that motivated i don't believe that the midterms would have been the same way if roe v wade would not repeal they gave them motivation there's nobody i don't know like i mean i know young people i don't know anyone excited about biden i don't know anybody with a biden flag on their truck i don't know anybody that's like out there for biden like literally the thing that everyone i know that's out there voting they held on was the roe v wade

situation which they gave us like a reason to go out which like i think was gonna come back to haunt them i mean it did in the midterms, and I think it will again. Again, I think it shows how confused they're like, well, in my day, we didn't have legal abortions. And it's like, so? In my day, I wasn't a legal person in your day. I wasn't a legal person. Right. Exactly. Right. And then, like, in my day,

my parents would have been arrested for getting married because their race didn't match up on a fucking application. Like, what are we talking about? And yeah, it is. It is. Again, they've just like there's this continued thing, even with Democrats, like just in general, there's a party, the generation that's in power has like this real hard time of not

understanding that like millennials and younger do not look at our lives through the same like Reagan boom years tinted lenses that they do like to your point jack like they were able to move into the 80s like yeah man i started making i started making good money when i was working in the 80s and i got this house for three bucks and i have my six kids with my one job you know what i mean and now they're like what's wrong with y'all they're like did you see the fucking article that said most millennia or most millennials will probably be renters for life? Yeah. Does that not spell a problem?

So we're looking at things. We're not looking at this as like a chill party. We got to a little bit late. We came at the part where y'all ate up all the food, drank up all the drink, and then be like, hey, how come y'all notall not having a good time here it's like there's a shit here left for it what the fuck you're talking about right yeah completely different we weren't at the same party and now you want to sure it wasn't the same location but it's not the same party anymore so don't start don't act confused when people are like we have real change that has to come right all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Sinbad movies that didn't exist.

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Robert De Niro, Cybill Shepherd, and Al Pacino. And it doesn't actually exist. It's a Tumblr meme that's become more popular because Twitter is dying. And so people are going to Tumblr for their memes. And yeah, it's basically they're trying to create a Mandela effect thing. And it's fun. I mean, somebody made a poster for it. The movie looks like it would be good. When his daughter texted him, Martin Scorsese, he responded, yes, I made that film years ago.

Oh, so he's just chest passing the meme right back to his kids? I guess so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that 73 yeah yeah good one so it began when somebody this this actually has more of a basis in reality than i thought so years ago someone bought some knockoff boots with a tag advertising something called martin scorsese presents goncharov which odd, but arguably just as odd as if a real movie was randomly advertised on a pair of boots. movie yeah like on the tongue where like the jordan logo would go on a pair of like jordan fours it has martin scorsese presents goncharov and so that's that's where it started people were like huh that's weird i don't remember that movie people you know started posting about it on tumblr and then from there people just invented all the details like like i mean people

would remember if deniro and pacino were in a movie like that's that's where they lost me like the big thing with heat was that yeah like they had never been in a movie since godfather 2 together but yeah it it's basically it started with that. And what people have realized is that it was a misspelling as knockoff gear is want to do. They took the title of a real movie Gamora and just misspelled it on these knockoff boots. And wait, so they were supposed to spell Gamora and they spell Goncharov? Goncharov. mora and they spell goncharov goncharov and martin scorsese did lend his name to this movie it was basically a foreign movie that he lent his name to for the u.s release like the most famous example that would be like tim burton's nightmare before christmas where people like the tim burton brand was really

strong so they just let him kind of put his name on it. And everybody thought he directed it. So they were trying to do that back in the 70s with this movie Gamora. It didn't work out because I don't think anybody remembers it. But it created this weird Berenstain Bears, Berenstein Bears theory. I feel like it's believable now because i'm sorry to interrupt i feel like uh like just a couple months ago you saw that hbo max did the cat woman movie but they just they never aired it like oh right they like shelved it right they shelved it yeah so like you

see that and you're like all right well i guess it's believable there could be movies out there that were made and hollywood just took them away you know right so the overall mandela effect idea is that like we live in a parallel universe or like there there's infinite universes every every time you make a decision that could have gone the other way it creates this branching reality and because there are you know eight billion of us on the planet that there are just an infinite number. And, like, these things, Mandela dying in the 80s, you know, the spelling of Berenstain Bears, Berenstein Bears being different,

the Sinbad Genie movie, and this movie, all existed in some other parallel reality, branch of reality, and then, like, somehow made the leap back over into our timeline which i i believe that that is a viable explanation of how reality works based on quantum physics i don't think this is where we're finding the evidence though in in movies or people misremembering shit yeah oh man well i mean it's just well it can jump it the realities can jump realities like that stands up in quantum physics no that doesn't stand up no all right because i know there's the possibility of infinite realities does stand up i

know that but i didn't know it could jump a lot of realities yeah because when you look at like at the quantum level like things seem to be doing two things at the same time and so like a lot i think it's the majority of quantum scientists like quantum physicists actually subscribe to a multiverse theory on the universe but nobody thinks that they are just haphazardly like some berenstain bears toys are haphazardly leaping back and forth between the branching realities but right the only one that really resonated with me like we were saying earlier is the kazam shazam thing which now people are saying is like just down to the spelling i i see the spelling or like that being a different name being the thing that people point to but it's not it's that sinbad never starred in a genie movie

right no i i think it's i wonder if it also has to do with like the idea of just like sinbad like the the more broadly the character of sinbad you know right because like you know like what is it like the seven voyages of sinbad kind of thing like right and that his vibe is a little that era seems a little more like it could look like a genie who like fucks with swords and stuff like that but yeah i don't know but some reason i have i have sinbad in my head dressed up as a genie i don't know why i don't know how it got reason I have, I have Sinbad in my head dressed up as a genie. I don't know why. I don't know how it got there,

but he, but he's there. I don't know. I think it must have happened. It must. I don't know. Like even when you look at Snopes, they're even like,

we have no clue what the fuck happened, like where this mix up even comes from. And I wonder if there's something, cause I feel like a lot of us are like i can i can picture simbad in a like a shiny gold outfit i think how he dresses i know and i'm like isn't that one of his stand-up specials yeah and with the baggy pants too i'm like the big baggy pants billowing they're like kind of yeah usually beige i don't know it all fits together i think in the version the vhs cover that i see in my head he has a like offensive

turban on so yeah i see the turban too i'm like i see the turban in my so i don't know are we creating this this is insane i know isn't it weird that's when it's it's something's there i don't know i feel like we're not someone sees a sit down with everything simbad has made and just go frame by frame because i feel like we're gonna see something where he was dressed up maybe is it from like a different world or some shit like is it maybe it was an snl sketch it was something like like there needs to be like a netflix documentary about this like we need to sit down and launch a full-fledged investigation because there's no way we can all have this picture yeah all of us simultaneously and it'd be nothing and like people people are

pointing to well they're like some people someone said that their mom actually wrote down the name on the vhs tape as kazan or shazam instead of kazam but it's it's not the thing that needs to be explained for me is the image of simbad with his arms crossed with the offensive turban on the berenstein bears berenstein bears thing actually has an explanation which is that a lot of the merch that was made for them, or, like, not a lot, but some of the merch that was made for those characters actually misspelled the name. So, like, you could see it out there spelled that way. And also, E-I-N, Stein, is a more common spelling, like, last name spelling for that, like, fragment of a last name spelling for that like fragment of a last name so it makes sense to me like that one makes sense to me the mandela effect just doesn't make sense to me because i i never had that memory but like that we i i do feel like we need to focus on the kazam shazam one and and really dig into

that that's the one that's most compelling to me maybe just because i have it this is i just put something in the chat where someone found sinbad in a genie like has a turban on i just put in the chat yeah apparently that was him promoting like a like a they were running back or they were playing the original Sinbad films and Sinbad was like doing an intro talking about how much he likes Sinbad and that's why he was wearing it and a lot of people like in this reddit thread are like debating whether or not it would have like reached the level to give this many people this same like pop culture memory no that's not where it comes from for me because I'm looking at the image and that's not that's not the image

that I see in my head. Right. I'm like, there's more gold in the one I'm thinking about. More gold. Turban is lightly colored. It's not dark red, like in this one. So, uh, well, you know, yeah, but I'm also, I am very curious about this other,

like false memories people have that, you know, the beyond the most famous ones and the gontarov one doesn't like you guys don't have a memory of that right like that this isn't one that resonates with you right yeah no gontarov no but i like anything that like starts off with someone buying knockoff boots and it sets off the origin story is actually the best part of that yeah yeah because i mean the best we'll do with knockoff Jordans is when people Photoshop. Because sometimes on knockoff Jordans,

he looks like he got the big butt cheeks on it. So people will edit dunk contest photos and be like, I don't know if you remember MJ like I did. He had the yeeks out on this one. Yeah. That's the closest I've come from an off-brand shoe giving me a false memory. Yeah, I had an off-brand pair that

were the Bourdains. I guess they had Anthony Bourdain on the logo. Oh yeah, those Bourdain 3s. Yeah, the Bourdain 3s. Ian, such a pleasure having you. Thank you for hanging out with us. Where can people find you,

follow you, all that good stuff. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you guys having me. I'm at Ian Lara live. That's my Instagram, my Twitter and my website.

My special streaming on HBO max is called romantic comedy. Make sure you guys check that out and check out my website for dates. I'm going back on tour next year. so I'll be coming all over the country. Nice. Going all over the country. There you go. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Social media?

Yeah. I'll be honest. Well, you know, Twitter is a social. I've been avoiding Twitter. I don't think I have social media, but it's because I've been been i've been avoiding a twitter um i don't think i have a social media but it's because i've been trying to lay off of it my phone my screen time has been out of this and and it's a weird thing because i try to compare you know how your iphone gives you your screen time right i try to like compare with people but nobody wants to talk about it like

if you ask somebody what their screen time is, they're like, I don't really, I don't really talk about that. Yeah. So I can't compare. I don't know if mine is crazy or not because nobody will give me their time. But anyways, I've been off of it. I've been trying to be off Twitter,

Instagram, and not, not indulging, trying to put down my screen time. My shit said I spent two and a half hours on Reddit last week. Yeah, there you go. All right.

Well now I need to just add your Instagram time and your Twitter time. Oh, see, that's what I did. I got sickened by my other apps. I'm like, you know what? I'll combine all of that time into one app, and that's called growth. There you go. Yeah. Front page of the internet.

Miles, where can people find you, and what is the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Shoot, even on Hive. I know some of y'all were like, someone's sitting on your handle. No, I got my Hive handle pretty early, but thank you for pointing that out. Although I do not know how to

use it and I did one thing on there and nobody responded, so I'm like, I will go back to my dumpster of Twitter. But anyway, also find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got Matt Boosties, an official NBA podcast, number 100% top rated. That's the thing I just made up right now. Also, if you'd like 90 Day Fiance, check me and Sophia Alexander out on 420 Day Fiance. And let's see some tweets that I like. Hmm. like man there's there's really not any good ones

oh you know what there was this interesting one uh from ellery smith past guest at ellery smith tweeted like elon posted this weird ass picture of like he said my bedside table again more shit posting but it was like four empty cans of like diet caffeine free coke and like a revolver and like fucking washington carbon or crossing the delaware um or potomac or whatever the fuck that was and it's this it said my bedside table but ellery street just said he might be the most divorced man in the history of divorce and like that just kind of felt yeah that's big big hey check me out energy yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien just riding it all the way to the ground

like all the way to the bottom of the marianas trench but some tweets i've been enjoying an arco bodist tweeted giving him the old jfk parentheses messy head in the back seat of my car and oh that's great todd in the shadows tweeted sobering to realize that even donald trump has the willpower to stay off twitter but i don't wow yeah let's hit home you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy uh i was listening to uh monifa's hit song touch it and i was just thinking of like you know what that beat is

really really good and i was like and i know that's a sample and it's a sample of the group laid back and their song white horse because that just has that like i don't know 80s synth creeper vibe to it the The instrumental is just dope. So this is White Horse made back. And look, if you only know the Monifa version of Touch It, you'll be pleasantly surprised to hear the source material. There you go. All right.

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