The Daily Zeitgeist - Mark Sucker-Beg, Tom Cruise Is Unstoppable 7.26.18

Episode Date: July 26, 2018

In episode 198, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ever Mainard to discuss Facebook losing $123 Billion, how great the latest Mission Impossible film is, Betsy Devos $40 million yacht going adrift,... checking back in with Helsinki, 23andMe selling your DNA and More! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 41, episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist. For July 26, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hey-la, hey-la, my boyfriend's Jack. Courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Main. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, yo. Miles Gray is on fire.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And then. I'm going to condense real quick. And so was I, gang, and O'Brien. All right. Shout out to you, Christina O.D. Chris at Chris Loves Life for that, what was that, Kings of Leon track? Shout out to the homegirl, Lily Aldridge, who I went to high school with. We used to smoke cigarettes in her Volkswagen, who I think is married to the dude, Caleb, in that band.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Little known fact. Now widely known. That song could have been a female pop, like an Alicia Keys or something like that. Yeah, yeah. That's who I thought it was as you were singing. Well, that was This Girl Is On Fire. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Isn't that hers? It is. This girl is on fire. Yep. Yep. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, we are thrilled to have in our third seat a returning guest, a hilarious stand-up
Starting point is 00:03:19 comedian, one of our favorites, Ever Maynard. Hey, guys. I want to see, too. Yeah, what do you want? I was put under so much pressure. Okay, by who? By yourself? Yes, by myself. I was like, they're going to want me to sing and I don't know. And Ever, what will you be singing? I want to sing Michael Jackson. Okay, which one?
Starting point is 00:03:36 I don't know, but like, Man in the Mirror. Oh, okay. Man in the Maynard? I don't know. I'm talking about Jack and the Man in the Maynard. Oh, yes. The Maynard in the Mirror. The Maynard jacked enough The man in the mirror Oh, yes The Maynard in the mirror The Maynard The Maynard in the mirror
Starting point is 00:03:49 If you want to make the world an ever place Okay, anyway All right Well, that will be the entirety of this podcast Just us kind of trying to improvise some AKAs But first, before we get to know you a little bit better ever, we are going to take our listeners through what we're about to talk about. We are going to check in with Tom Cruise because he is an unstoppable sprinting asexual robot.
Starting point is 00:04:14 We are going to talk about how Facebook stock is taking a big dive, what Drudge is calling death spiral. Hell yeah. We're going to talk about a trend that I'd like to see more of. You guys, Zeitgang, let's make this happen. Low stakes Boston Tea Party. Someone set Betsy DeVos's yacht adrift. We're going to talk about this new attempt by the Freedom Caucus
Starting point is 00:04:42 to impeach Rod Rosenstein, I guess. We're going to check back in with Helsinki, see where we stand on a bunch of different things. Following that, we're going to find out 23andMe's endgame. And it's kind of scary. We're going to talk about mayo ice cream. And finally, the reboot we've all been waiting for. Frasier might come back. But first, Ever, we'd like to ask you, what is something from your search history that's
Starting point is 00:05:12 revealing about who you are? Well, I've been doing a lot of research on shot put recently, and I found out, I've been researching who the first woman was. Okay. I'm blanking on her name, But in the Olympics, it was 1948. She was the first woman to win gold in shot put. And on that Olympics, she medaled in three different things. Discus, which she just picked up and won gold.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And then high jump. And she was also a composer and a pianist. And high jump. I would not have guessed after those first two. High jump is incredible. But then she played Beethoven. What? She's a composer and a pianist and played concert recitals
Starting point is 00:05:51 and afterwards had two concert recitals after the Olympics. I mean, I'm not impressed by that, but I could see how some people would be. That's no big deal for me. And she's not even a big girl. You know what I mean? She's out here. I was like, damn, dog.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Sophie Lichterman, super producer Sophie Lichterman. Can you find her name for us by the end of the podcast? Is it Micheline Ostermeyer? Yep. Oh. Of France? I was going to guess it was, but I just... Eh, oui.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Micheline Ostermeyer, yes. Oh, wow. I love how it just puts her quick one line on Wikipedia. French athlete and concert pianist. Yeah. Boom. She quit. Whoa, great niece of Victor Hugo?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. Damn. God damn. She had the hookup, man. Yeah. I'll let you hear me. And then I've had a lot of alone time. Actually, this is the most I've spoken in two days.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Whoa. Oh, boy. What a rush. You've been in self-imposed solitary for the past two days just staring at the maynard in the mirror but you guys we live on a planet called earth and some dude made up that name and we were like yeah i'm going with it what earth yeah earth yeah and we just accept it we're like yeah okay sounds chill that's the thing about getting in early and stuff. Man, tell me about it. You can really set the tempo of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But that was like a three-hour conversation I had with myself, and I was just like writing. I was like, this is going to be a killer bit. Oh, really? My roommate came home this morning, and I was like, hey, listen to this. And they were like, bleh. I was like, have you not talked to people for two days? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Anyways, okay. Yeah, so that's what I've been searching. Wait, why shot put, though? Oh, I love it. Oh, really? I think about it every day. Do you throw? Yeah, I used to.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm thinking about throwing again, but here's the deal. You can't just, I mean, you could go to a park and practice, but you're just throwing a cannonball. There's not many like pickup games of shot putting going on. Shout out to my friend Nick in high school during track practice, or we were in band, but there was track practice going on, and he saw a shot that he thought was a ball, kicked it and blew his toe off.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He's like, yeah, check this out. Boom. And you're like, it was, however many pounds it is, yeah. Yeah. So anyway. 12 pounds. Dos Equis needs to make that woman
Starting point is 00:08:11 the most interesting woman in the world. Oh, yeah. They keep going with that same dude. Well, no, they changed it. They changed the dude, but I think the premise in the Dos Equis universe was that that is him as a younger man, isn't it? Oh, is it?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah, I don't even care enough in the lore of that character. Come on, guys. She is the most interesting person in the universe. She took a break during the war, and then she came back hard, you know? Damn. That's fucking crazy. I know. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:08:37 What do I think is overrated? I think I put down Texas hospitality. Yeah, and keep Austin weird. Oh, keep Austin. Okay, listen. You fucks coming into the state of Texas, great, welcome. But you're being so rude on the highway.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I can't. I went home to visit. And people, I'm angry about this. I'm a Buddhist, but you know what I mean? You're a Buddhist Texan. Just watch your rage, you know? I mean? You're a Buddhist Texan. Just watch your rage, you know? And yeah, I went home to visit, and
Starting point is 00:09:09 this kind of goes into my myth, but people were such dicks. And I was like, have they always been dicks, like driving? And my parents were like, well, you know, everybody's just moving into Texas. This was like their big thing. They were so excited. They're like, now when you're driving,
Starting point is 00:09:26 you see license plates from all over. It's great when you're on a road trip. You're like, ooh, Arizona. But now they're like, in our little town, they're like, we saw one from Alaska. I was like, yay. Right, right, right. That's a long drive.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, but even driving in LA, you think you get used to garbage traffic. But then I went to Austin and I was like, bitch, let me merge. Or even get on the interstate. So the overrated is what? Just people's attitudes of driving over there? Oh, yeah, we're just like, Austin's not weird anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's just kind of like- Oh, so you're from Austin, right? I'm from around Austin, yeah. I'm from a tiny town. So you've seen it shift over the years from one place to, yeah, a lot of people. It's still a great city, okay? I'm not trying to hate on the city. But I was just like, oh, this is just, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. All right. Give me another Chipotle. This is a general trend that we're seeing in America where people are valuing living in cool like cool cities more than a job a job exactly and like uh you know quality of life just being near culture and so everybody's moving and also a lot of the jobs are going to these cool cities which makes it sort of practical that people are moving there but hey get out of LA make those rents go down. Right. And Austin and Nashville are two towns that I've heard specifically are getting just flooded with people. And the infrastructure is just not built for it.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And the traffic has just gotten worse than Los Angeles and in Austin and Nashville, which sucks for people who've lived there forever. And I'm sure it sucks for the people who are just moving there. Not good for anyone. Yeah, I thought about this right after my trip from visiting home. As I'm sitting here, I'm like, you sound like a crazy asshole. Like, I've been alone.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Fuck traffic. Everybody sucks. Earth. Like, who came up with that? Whoa, are you okay? Five planets are in retrograde. Sorry, guys. Let's put you on a positive path.
Starting point is 00:11:29 What is something that's underrated? Something that is underrated? Oh, fuck, socks, man. Like, I used to not wear them, and then I went through wearing them, and then sometimes I'll wear a decorative sock. Oh, my God, I've been so alone. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Oh my god, I've been so alone. Just the warm embrace of a sock on your bare foot. I mean, nothing compares to that. When you have a sock with a nice moisture wick. Uh-oh. It's openly weeping. Tears streaming down her face. I'm so grateful. Yeah, but socks, man.
Starting point is 00:12:06 We overlook them. They can make an outfit. They can bring an outfit. They can. It's true. You know what's funny? Watch now, people wear white socks,
Starting point is 00:12:14 plain white socks are coming back. Before, I'm sort of team no-show or team low socks. That's like my 90s basketball aesthetic of like,
Starting point is 00:12:22 yo, keep the socks hidden. We used to do this shit in school. My friend Chris put me onto this where you pull the sock. Like if you had a crew sock, you pull that shit as low as you want it and then just fold over the excess. You fold it over the top? I fold it under, man.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Oh, underneath on your sole? And I still do that shit. Damn. See, again, these are leftover habits from 90s basketball kids. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so yeah, the sock thing, it's interesting to see the white sock wave coming back. Oh, it's coming back. I love decorative socks.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I'm wearing a decorative sock today. White socks that are mid-calf length? Yeah, I always see whenever you look at people in fashion spreads, the people just got obviously a tapered pant or something that's maybe a little bit above your ankle, but then just exposing the wild white sock. And I used to be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. And then I'm like, okay, maybe that's a little bit of a wave. I'm going to bring back a pilgrim look.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Uh-huh. Fuck it. Yeah. Just white socks over black pants. Just stockings. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to bring back some fucking stockings. Like baseball style.
Starting point is 00:13:18 What's your favorite brand of sock? Do you have a favorite brand? No. Okay. You know, I just buy, I hate to admit it, I found these at Urban Outfitters. Okay. It was a shame that I went into that store, but I was like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, well, if they're doing 70% off, slave made socks. Tell me about it. I'm about to get some socks. Right now, I'm kicking it with some Hanes. Okay, wow. Hanes, underrated sock. Just a nice classic, again, white sock. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I've been wearing. Wait, you said you didn't wear socks for a minute? You had a non-sock era? Yeah, I wore a lot of Vans. Oh, yeah, yeah. I wore a lot of slip-ons. And then- Then they rotted.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Your feet rotted. Did a lot of questionable fashion choices in Chicago. A lot of mullets. A lot of rat tail mullets. A lot of feathered mullets. You had a feathered mully? Yeah, it was tight. I thought it was tight, but then I looked back on pictures and I was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah. How long was this ago? Six, seven months ago? Yeah. Two. Two months. Two months. You saw me with it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 No, yeah. It was wild. But yeah, I used to just wear jorts. Jorts, mullet, no socks with the Vans. Yeah. Okay. How did your Vans smell? Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, that's what I was about to say. Disgusting. Doesn't that get to a point, though, where you rock shoes with no socks, and you're like, I don't know if I have to throw these socks away, or these shoes away, or my fucking feet away. I've never had the luxury of wearing shoes with no socks. Really? You always had to wear socks?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, because you'd just be sweating them out? I'm very sweaty. You know, that's why I found a shoe, because sometimes I just don't like to wear socks. There's some good natural sprays that surprisingly bring your shit back to neutral. You can bring out the soles, clean those, and wash your shoes. Sometimes it's really liberating not to wear a sock. And you're like, wow.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Oh, yeah. I did it to work the other day, and I had a panic attack. I love it. Why? I didn't tell anybody because I was like, these are going to stink up. Was that the day that you were just sitting on the floor all day rocking back and forth? With a garbage bag on my feet? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Don't get near me, man. I stepped in something. I feel like socks are one of the trends that changes the most quickly. I feel like... I don't know. I mean, not for us. You and I have been doing the same shit for 20 years. But I also notice it on other people
Starting point is 00:15:25 because like I could never wear long socks. It just like bothers me for whatever reason. So like I notice that like all of a sudden it'll be back and then it'll go away. It's like they're the eyebrows
Starting point is 00:15:36 of the feet. You know how people's eyebrows like change. Eyebrow fashion. Yeah, eyebrow fashion. Now people like a thick just don't fuck with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It used to be the arch or the thin ass eyebrows. Let's keep it thick, guys. Let's with it. It used to be the arch or the thin-ass eyebrows. Let's keep it thick, guys. Let's keep it thick. All right. Hell yeah. And also, if you work for a sock company, hit us up. Hit us up.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I'll wear your socks. Because, yeah, we're trying to, exactly. Every time Ever's on, we try and beg. Maynard in the mirror is on. We try and beg for something free. Last time it was Nike. Nike's, yeah. Shout out to Allen.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Thanks for the hookup. Shout out to Allen. Ever, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, okay, so this is like growing up. We learned in school. It's almost like the goat man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:14 Okay, yeah. Busting Texas myths. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when we all, I remember we all got our licenses like that, like 15, 16. And then it'd be like, well, you know the guy who engineered the interstate system killed himself. And everyone was like, what? And apparently, like the on-ramp,
Starting point is 00:16:31 he miscalculated how long it should be and made a fatal error. So like the on-ramps and some of these like interstate mergers are so short. That's why I was also like really mad that people wouldn't let you like merge on. Because they're just, you know. There's not enough lead also really mad that people wouldn't let you merge on. Because they're just-
Starting point is 00:16:46 There's not enough lead way. Exactly. So people were dying. Runway, right. And they'd already made these interstates. And this is back in the day, right? So he realized this after the fact, and he killed himself. He really did, though?
Starting point is 00:16:58 That's no bullshit? Or is that one of those teen myths that we talk about, like how Korn got their name? I kind of refuse to know the answer but i'll look up the answer now but this is something i respect in old-timey inventors that we don't have in our current like tech bro culture where like the guy who invented the loudspeaker blamed himself till the day he died for the rise of fascism because he was just like, you know, by creating loudspeakers, it enabled like, you know, dictators to reach entire rooms of people. And like, he was just like, felt so guilty, blamed himself for the Holocaust and everything. Which guy was this?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah. The inventor of the loudspeaker, a guy named Peter Jensen, apparently totally blamed himself for the rise of authoritarianism and Nazism because he invented it. And then there were just all sorts of authoritarian governments popping up everywhere. Oh, you know what? This is on Snopes.com. This is, is this an urban legend or there's some truth to it? I've heard from several people that the designer of the Interstate 35 committed suicide because he felt badly for the people who died in accident. I'm a native Austinite and was always curious. And the answer says it's a legend.
Starting point is 00:18:14 No single individual designs a highway, says John Hurt. Okay, conspiracy. John Hurt. Boom. It's been busted. Yeah. Spokesman for the Texas Department of Transportation And design takes years
Starting point is 00:18:28 Okay really? Okay good to know So that's just Shitty design Shitty design Yeah cause I was wondering There's a couple I feel like
Starting point is 00:18:35 There's an interchange Like that Not like in LA Or like when you're Driving out of LA Where I'm like Damn that's a short Runway to be merging
Starting point is 00:18:43 And you're like I'm surprised I didn't get an accident. Speaking of inventors who don't feel guilty enough for their inventions, Facebook's stock is taking a big dive right now. They have lost, I think, $120 billion in valuation. Technically, I think $123 billion. $123 billion. Overnight.
Starting point is 00:19:05 To put that in perspective, Twitter's market cap is $33 billion, so Facebook just lost four Twitters, and that was all overnight. Yeah. And Snapchat is, I think, only 17. Right. So, yeah, I think that's how you realize how fucking big Facebook is, because that was only, what, I think a 20% there. I think they started at 629 yesterday and they opened at 506. Anybody check in on Mark? Mark, you
Starting point is 00:19:30 okay, man? Mark is he? Check on old Nark Zuckerberg and see how he's doing. Hey, Mark, you guys okay? They try and spin it though because it was about their earnings report and they're like, well, we're doing it because we're spending a lot on security and algorithms and machine learning to make sure we keep stories in about fucking Alex Jones telling people to shoot Robert Mueller or Holocaust deniers and things like that.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I don't know. But they're saying it's a lot of spending that they're doing to get your safety back. Right. They missed their numbers was essentially the big thing is that they didn't grow as fast as they had projected they were going to grow. And that combined with all of the trouble they've we're addressing it. But I think we're seeing in recent days that this is a fundamental philosophical question that I don't know is answerable, where they're basically saying, you know, they're not willing to take complete responsibility for what people learn on Facebook and the information that gets disseminated. And that information is like leading
Starting point is 00:20:45 to mobs murdering innocent grandmothers in India right leading to Alex Jones saying that he thinks Robert Mueller is a pedophile and ethnic cleansing yeah ethnic cleansing is happening and so there was this meeting where somebody was trying to explain the guy who's, I think, in charge of the algorithm, or actually he's in charge of their new video player. And he was saying, what we're trying to do is make it so that if you are saying something that is untrue, you're allowed to say it as long as you're an authentic person. We try to make it so that it doesn't get much distribution. So those are kind of different things. So basically he's saying you can say whatever you want and we won't distribute it, but that requires like, I don't know, there's not a clear philosophical outlook there.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Right, well, I guess it's just sort of like we respect your right to say whatever, but it's not a right that people have to hear it all over the place. But that seems like a very difficult thing to accomplish because it's a lot of judgment involved and they can't make a judgment call on every single one of these. I mean, they can't even make a judgment call on Holocaust deniers. Yeah, Mark Zuckerberg recently said that it's okay to be a Holocaust denier. He's trying to use this national standard for free speech, and that doesn't really cut it. and probably like a much larger chunk of the global population that is up on two feet affecting change since it's mostly like, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:28 youngish people in other countries and then in our country at least able-bodied people. Do you use Facebook ever? Not anymore. Not as much. I won't say not anymore, but like to post a show, be like, hey, but I'm not like, oh, what's going on? Because I remember I started off being like really hyped on it
Starting point is 00:22:45 and being like oh shit here's that homie from elementary school that moved away years ago or people mistaking me for someone they thought was a long lost classmate
Starting point is 00:22:53 and then I would post my vacation photos yeah you post on somebody's timeline hey what's up not anymore yeah now I'm like I don't know
Starting point is 00:23:00 maybe it's the luster I don't know it's less attractive to me or like it's a garbage dump yeah I'm like I don't get the thrill of using Facebook luster. I don't know. It's less attractive to me. It's a garbage dump. Yeah, I'm like, I don't get the thrill of using Facebook as I used to. And then once you look at all the shit that's been going on. Dude, Mark's listening, man.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Be gentle. That's fine. Hey, motherfucker, go cry on your pile of billions of dollars, fam, because we're coming for that shit too. But like, yeah, I don't know. It seems not as useful or I just don't like it as much. Or maybe I'm taking my privacy more seriously or I'm just, I don't want to use it. I think that's a nice
Starting point is 00:23:28 like, exactly, like, oh my privacy. Oh fuck, like you know everything about me now. I'm like, oh you've been selling my shit? That's why I'm getting these ads? And also now if you want to promote like a show or like something like now you have to pay or like trick the algorithm and it's just like, oh man this sucks. And I mean we need to
Starting point is 00:23:43 and I think people are getting better at thinking about their attention as a finite resource. You only have so much attention to go around and you can't let it be squandered on bullshit, especially like untrue bullshit because it's both harmful to you personally and to society in general. But yeah, I don't know necessarily
Starting point is 00:24:03 how they walk this line because, so they did, you know, kind of shrink InfoWars or shrink Fox News's distribution and I think shrink InfoWars and maybe even banned InfoWars' account. And now the right is up in arms about that. And, you know, they've been receptive to pressure from the right, you know, claiming that they're censoring free speech. And so it's just like it's going to be this back and forth. There's no clear answer to how they're going to address this. Somebody just puts your fucking foot down as Facebook and be like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I own this. These are lies. Right. I don't give a fuck. Do whatever you want. I'm not letting this thing turn into a tool for fucking evil or just completely deceiving people who are vulnerable to this kind of misinformation. But I guess if you have enough money, I might.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, because he's probably like, all right, well, good. How's the condo looking on Mars? Right. Is that shit going to be done? It's going to get hot. It's going to be hot in like 15 years and I'm out to go. All right. We're going to take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:25:04 We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
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Starting point is 00:28:18 on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
Starting point is 00:28:52 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Tom Cruise, baby. He's back. He's never went away, really. Never left. Never left.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But like Tom Cruise in any one of his movies, his career just keeps sprinting faster and faster for no real reason and against any rules of physics and logic. And after a pretty mediocre opening trilogy, the Mission Impossible movies are getting better. The latest Mission Impossible movie, the sixth in the franchise, is sitting at 86 on Metacritic right now. What? It comes out tomorrow on Friday.
Starting point is 00:29:45 86 is on par with movies that win Academy Awards. So I guess we know what we're talking here, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's getting that Oscar? Finally. I hope so. Hey, Tom. Hey, Tom, big fan.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know. He's like figured something out because the Mission Impossible franchise started out as Tom Cruise's excuse to do things that he thought Tom Cruise looked cool doing. Like riding motorcycles that he could make literally like jump. Yeah, right. In Mission Impossible 2. And then in Mission Impossible 3, he like sprinted around a city shouting at people to get out of his way, which is his favorite thing to do in movies.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And then he also was able to surf on explosions. That's pretty tight. He did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean? You know when the explosion in movies will propel your body across something? He was doing that almost tactically. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I missed that part. So anyways, starting with the fourth one, for some reason. Is that the one where he was holding onto the side of the airplane? Or is that five? That's five. for some reason. Is that the one he was holding onto the side of the airplane?
Starting point is 00:30:43 Or is that five? That's five. Four is Ghost Protocol, Ghost Protes, where he climbs the tallest building in the world. Oh, the Burj Khalifa?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, dangling along. And now that's Ghost Protes. Ghost Protes. And you're talking about Rogue Nash. Rogue Nash. And now we're
Starting point is 00:30:59 Fall Out. Is that what it's called? Yeah. Okay. Wow. And so, I think Tom Cruise, despite being personally very problematic and somebody who has lived a lot of his life on the back of literal slave labor from the Sea Org in Scientology, check out Going Clear. If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's an amazing book. But I've heard anecdotes about him on the set of the movie
Starting point is 00:31:26 where he basically runs everything. Like he's just involved in every shot, like every performance. He's a businessman. Yeah, but he's also, I think, a director, like an artist, like an auteur. Jay Moore told the story on his podcast about how on Jerry Maguire and the restaurant scene
Starting point is 00:31:44 where Jay Moore fires Tom Cruise. Like Tom Cruise was knew exactly where the edge of the shot was and was like using his hand off screen to like direct Jay Moore. He was like, OK, bring your face in a little bit closer with his hand. And I was like, he's as they're shooting as he's giving his performance. And that was the shot they used because like Tom Cruise just knows exactly like what, what's going to look good and what's going to work for the shot. He was like,
Starting point is 00:32:10 it was the most uncanny thing I've ever seen. That's gotta be such a, when as an actor, you'd be like, Hey motherfucker, let me do my shit. Stop fucking like moving my face with your fingers. Like,
Starting point is 00:32:22 okay, let's stop. Right. Good, good. But, but it's like the most likable person. So you can't like do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah. Because he was just like, and I love the guy. And Jay Moore is, I don't know. He seems like he doesn't love everyone. Hey, Tom, if you're listening, big fan. Yeah. Hey, that's what we're here to say. That's my podium now.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, but hey, Tom. Hey, Tom. Hey we're here to say. That's my podium now. Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, but hey, Tom. Hey, Tom. Hey. I've been alone. I've been watching a lot of your stuff. Yeah, he has a fucking weird energy about him. You know what I mean? My dad, who's a photographer, has photographed him before.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Excuse. And my mom, who is a film critic, she's interviewed him. And they always say there's this thing about him that's just fucking intense. Yes. And not like, you don't know what it is, but he's just so engaged,
Starting point is 00:33:12 locked in, and just be like, yeah, you and I are the only people that fucking exist right now. That's how he makes it feel when his focus is on you. Lance Armstrong should have
Starting point is 00:33:20 just injected Tom Cruise's blood into his arm. Or just his breath. Right. You're like, okay. I just find so much more about you. You guys every time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah. Wow. Miles is. Every day I wait in front of the Scientology building with a DVD of Mission Impossible and a pen hoping that he comes out for an autograph. Yeah, but your mom is a film critic. Your dad is a photographer. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Miles is the coolest. Slowly reveal things. Very slowly. Very slowly. Do you think that Tom's able to do that okay not to get all weird but i'm gonna get weird because he's able like if he makes you feel like you're the only person there do you think that's because he can recognize the god in somebody else you know what i mean like in that standpoint it's like right we're all gods so he's just like uber focused probably he just has so much energy
Starting point is 00:34:06 yeah you're right but I don't know I think that could be it I've been alone no no no that's true though that's my fallback I think he is
Starting point is 00:34:14 very like almost superhuman and like his I've walked past him and been like felt a presence of like something I was just like
Starting point is 00:34:23 holy shit that guy's like amazing holy shit that guy's like amazing. That guy's short. No, but like he is short. And I, that wasn't the thing I noticed.
Starting point is 00:34:30 The thing I noticed was like, God damn, Tom Cruise looks amazing in person. Scientology. Yeah. Yeah. Scientology. And also never having to worry about anything.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Cause you have a child army. Trillion dollars. Yeah. And also that. And it's a church. You don't pay taxes. Yeah. But we also talk about his,
Starting point is 00:34:49 like he's got a weird asexual energy about him that is- Tell me more. It's just, well, you know, Eyes Wide Shut is famous for, you know, running over and possibly killing Stanley Kub kubrick and uh like the whole problem with it was that he couldn't get a believable like sexual charisma and like right sexual vibe between tom cruise and his actual wife and i don't know it it's its own genre of movies tom cruise movies because he is like the auteur at the center of it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And it has the sprinting scene in it where he's like sprinting around like a young dog that just got off his leash. But there's no like real actual sexual charisma, but you just like input your own idea of it in there because it's not coming from him. Yeah, there are like damsels in distress. Oh, trust me, it is not coming from him. Yeah, they're like damsels in distress. Oh, trust me, it is not coming from him.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, there's like damseling in it and there's like the just sort of the function of a story, quote unquote, love interest, but it's never like, yeah, man, the two of them, really, there's a connection. You're like, nah, it's like, I think he was more into that plane. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:01 His motorcycle is a love interest. The way he was caressing that ducati i was like god damn all right guys let's talk about the uh low stakes boss tea party thank you that is going going down someone said betsy devos's 40 million dollar yacht adrift in i i guess it was a river i think a lake a lake yeah uh in huron ohio yeah she has a yacht on a lake. A lake. Yeah. In Huron, Ohio. Yeah. She lives there. She has a yacht on a lake. Yeah. 40 million dollars.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Put it in the ocean. You have 40 million dollars just sitting on a lake. They, I mean, what I found out through this is the family has so many yachts. They're like, they're about the yacht life. I think they have, the family is at least one of at least 10 boats that the DeVos family owns. They got 10 boats. They have 10 fucking boats. She's obviously the wealthiest person in the cabinet, too, because she had to disclose her assets are worth more than $580 million. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:58 What a Betsy big fan. Yeah. Big fan. Love what you're doing. Love all the boats. Love you. Work. Love this education thing you're going on.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Someone straight up was like, you know what? Let's just show this fucking evildoer something. And all they did was untied it, set it adrift, and they're like, it scraped up the hole. So we're looking at $5,000 to $10,000 worth of damage. Oh, yeah, big hit to you. But it's only a matter of time before people start setting these people's yachts on fire, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Not that I'm suggesting anyone do that. As the haves and have-nots grow, I mean, I think people look at someone who is a millionaire, who has just a $40 million yacht as an afterthought, who's also behind setting very dangerous policies in our education system, like not protecting LGBT or trans students or fucking making people who have been scammed out of student loan things like debt forgiveness even harder. I'm like, yo, that's what I'm like.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I don't understand. Eventually, like in an ideal world, no one who's a millionaire will hold office because the majority of this country is not millionaires. And these people are not in touch enough with the reality, the data. I cannot believe that there's someone with a 40 million dollar yacht
Starting point is 00:38:06 who's gonna look at something like student debt and be like oh yeah that's awful I don't know how you get on your feet she's in charge of our public schools
Starting point is 00:38:13 yeah that's fucking crazy so but anyway you know low stakes Boston Tea Parties somebody who would never ever ever
Starting point is 00:38:20 send someone they love to a public school right exactly is in charge of our public schools. I can't wait to have $40 million. Yeah. Right. You said $40 million, and I was like, an island.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I would buy an island. Yeah, right? And just be like, don't talk to me. In Lake Huron, right? Lake Huron. I would buy Lake Huron. You know what the boat was called? Water rights.
Starting point is 00:38:39 There is something so Betsy DeVos and Trump administration about yachts on lakes. Because don't want to be on the coasts because people hate them on the coast. So they just have inland yachts. Right. It's better because Florida, I'm going to have to deal with Puerto Ricans or New York. I mean, there's some good people there. California, forget it. Pretty soon they'll just be buying up the middle of the country to dig it out so they can put their yachts and boat in
Starting point is 00:39:08 peace and just be like, yeah, well, this is Billionaire Lake. The boat is called The Sea Quest, which is a great NBC show, if you remember, with Roy Scheider. The Sea Quest? Sea Quest. Sea Quest. Sea Quest in a lake? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It hasn't gotten there. It's on a quest to eventually reach the sea. Lake quest. So what's going on with the Freedom Caucus? Freedom Caucus, as we all know. Getting thirsty. Those Tea Party teabaggers who came up in power when they were like, Obama's a Muslim who's going to pay for our health insurance. Yeah, like Mark Meadows and old Jim Jordan and that whole gang. They, and like Devin Nunes as well.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So a lot of these people, they're trying to get the impeachment process rolling on Rod Rosenstein, who's the deputy attorney general and is, you know, Robert Mueller's boss. And, you know, they've been trying this whole time for like the fucking last year or ever since Rosenstein has been in office,
Starting point is 00:40:04 they've been trying to create as many artificial conflicts as possible to try and paint him as some kind of schemer you know partisan despite being a Trump appointee and Republican right there he's basically has respect for the law so they're taking that as contempt or something and again to impeach someone like this the last time a non-president was impeached like this, it was 122 years ago, because this kind of impeachment process is reserved for people who have committed treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Their complaints are basically, they're taking too long redacting these documents that we really have no business having in the first place
Starting point is 00:40:46 and just trying to complain about that and be like oh this is your own contempt of congress anyway it's just it's it's not going to go anywhere because it doesn't have the backing of the party leadership so it won't even get a vote or anything but again this is them i think trying to also create a some kind of pretext for trump to be like oh well you know this uh this guy looks like he's got to go. I mean, looks like he might, they wanted to impeach him, so this guy's got to be bad.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Right. But it's all bullshit. And it's like not even Paul Ryan can get behind it because he's like, guys, don't, this is, just knock it off. Paul, what's up, man? He's on his way out, so I don't know, who knows what's going on.
Starting point is 00:41:21 He's opening up his own gym. Yeah, right. That poster. i love it it's crazy that they're doing this while the fallout from helsinki is still happening but it's it's almost crazy to think that the putin trump helsinki thing was only at the beginning of last week. Yeah, yeah. But there's a great podcast called Rational Security where everyone works in the national security industry or they're a reporter on national security. And they're very middle of the road. Some of their takes are more conservative than our takes on this show. But I was very curious to hear, know as insiders when they came back what
Starting point is 00:42:05 their take on the whole putin they were off last week i was curious what their take on the putin trump thing was and it was like talking to anyone they were like watching it it's clear something's going on it's not exactly clear what but he probably has something on him. Something's up. They also said that the FISA application revelation was completely vindicating to the idea that Nunez is a complete fucking liar. Right. So they actually read the whole 400 pages, and they're like, yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Get a life. None of the, right. But it's what they do. Teasing and teasing. No, fuck them. You're like, yeah, no. Get a life. None of the, right. But it's what they do. Teasing and teasing. No, fuck them. You're right. You know what, Paul Ryan, big fan. But it's what they do and they're just like, yeah, no, if you actually read it, like nothing
Starting point is 00:42:58 the president's saying and nothing Nunez has said for the past, you know, number of months. Since he's had a feathered m past number of months is remotely true. Right, exactly. That image of Nunez. There's a high school photo of Devin Nunez and he's rocking the turtleneck with a cardigan. No, full on feathered
Starting point is 00:43:15 mullet. It's beautiful. The fact that he was considering giving up federal employees to be interrogated by Putin is still blowing people's minds. Big fan. So one of the side effects of the conference was yesterday Pompeo went before Senate intelligence committees, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:45 basically his message was what the president does is policy, not what he says. And basically what our administration does is policy, not what he says. But then when they actually like basically made him say that, like, so what you're saying is that like the president's words don't actually constitute policy. He was like,
Starting point is 00:44:00 yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then he was like, wait, can I get a like mulligan on that? That's not what I meant because he realized that would like piss trump off so much and also it's fucking crazy to hear that the president's like words don't actually matter he's just an avatar um but like as so all the senators like jumped on that they were like wait so you're saying that the president's just not you know that his words don't matter and that like it basically you got the impression that there is the administration that is like basically trying to contain this president who is not on the same page. working at cross purposes with one another. And so as the senators kind of locked that message in,
Starting point is 00:44:48 he got like more and more angry to the point that at the end of the thing, they were like, so do you have any final statements? And he went, not a word. He was like so fired up. Oh yeah. Him and Bob Menendez, they really went at each other. I mean, Bob Corker too gave him the business too. It was pretty interesting. I bet Corker could give him the business. He did. He did. He really went at each other. I mean, Bob Corker, too, gave him the business, too. It was pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I bet Corker could give him the business. Yeah, he did. He did. Oh, yeah. He's on the way out. He was a big, white Corker. Bob Corker. Bob Corker is a porn name.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Oh, yeah. A very unimpressive one, but still. That's a first draft porn name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you thinking, Bob, for your porn name? Bob Corker? That's your name. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I thought that would be good, though. The Corker. Yeah. The Corker. Put a cork in it. Big fan. Big fan, Corker. Big fan of your work of finding your spine after you retire. But then still being a rubber stamp for every vote that's needed. Okay, crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, I think the most, the biggest implication or the biggest sort of effect that the Helsinki summit had is that now even the mainstream media seems to be taking it very seriously. The idea that Trump is compromised in some way. before and now I've read like three very well-researched, pretty intricately reported articles being like, this is how it probably could have happened and all the ways they could have gotten to it. Right. Based on past patterns of this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Past patterns of things they've done and also like, you know, past business arrangements and travel plans of Trump. So, yeah. Well, then you also had John Bolton basically double down on the whole idea that it's a witch hunt. Like John Bolton just came out. He's like, yeah, like we'll probably talk to Putin after this whole Russia witch hunt's over.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And then like the person in that national security advisor role typically does not say anything political like that. Like you're not there to be like, oh, it's a witch hunt, man. Right. Like, and then again, you have the White House at odds
Starting point is 00:46:44 with the intelligence community. Yeah. And I don't think, you know, it's... Yeah hunt man right like and then again you have the white house at odds with the intelligence community yeah i don't think you know it's yeah trump more details trump said no i believe my intelligence but now then he said it's a witch hunt and you know he's like said five contradicting things since the helsinki summit and i think the idea is just admit whether this is by design or just a thing that accidentally works. Oh, I think it's confusion by design. Yeah. Right. I think it's something that might just accidentally work for him, and he happens to be the perfect sort of mentally ill for this media moment. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:15 But either way, it's exhausting to try and rebut somebody who says five contradictory things, and the people who actually support him don't care that only one of them can be true right and that probably all five of them are not true yeah well the other thing too is that when he goes more is like you know russia might help the democrats in the midterms you don't know because i'm so like they don't like me even though putin said i want him to be president and then also like if you so but you'll believe they'll meddle in this midterm you believe that they didn't in the general and then you still won't invest in any kind of election security despite you saying that you think that they're going to help the democrats what the fuck are you doing then yeah so everything is just in direct contradiction to itself at every turn
Starting point is 00:48:00 it's it's so entertaining and yet there's still a lot of conservatives who are, like there was a Wall Street Journal op-ed where they were like, see this FISA application proves that they were at least partially influenced by the Steele dossier. Like they're just focusing on this like pinprick, narrow like piece of the information that they can construct an argument around that this is all like fruit of a poisoned tree
Starting point is 00:48:30 but it's just an insane argument that you have to really willfully be shutting your eyes to. Even the breastfeeding thing. That was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, when suddenly they're like nah, don't be telling people breastfeeding is good.
Starting point is 00:48:45 We want you to buy this powder. Yeah, and also if you don't, we'll sanction you. Did we talk about that last time? No, I don't think we did. Well, yeah, I feel like we did. Maybe if we didn't, though, it was like a UN health summit basically around just getting the message out that breastfeeding is good for the baby and it should be encouraged. And formula isn't the only option. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And then everyone was like, yeah, we agree. The one country, the U.S. saying, no, don't say that. Don't encourage women to breastfeed. Even though like all the studies show like it helps, especially in like developing worlds, like where you don't have access to other forms of food. Like breast milk is great for the child. And they were threatening.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Not that if you can't breastfeed it it's a bad thing yeah no no exactly women that can't right of course and they're not even trying to say like right it's the only option they're just saying like hey if you can check it out right basically don't there's no there's no worry with it and the u.s was just threatening other countries like oh you don't want to start sanctioning you don't like don't make it hot for yourself i know like big ph Big Pharma. Get a grip, man. Yeah. And then eventually they came to me. And Nestle and other people who make baby formula. By the way, baby formula is just the grossest shit in the world.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah, it tastes awful. You been sucking on it lately? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't work in your coffee, your milk? It smells so bad. Oh, really? It's like weird. You guys ever use collagen?
Starting point is 00:49:59 It's like metallic smelling. Collagen? Collagen powder in your coffee or in your protein? No. No. Stinky, but it works. All right. It's stinky, but it works, baby.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Pro tip. It works to do what? Just restore collagen in your body. Oh, interesting. If you have achy bones, achy muscles. Yeah. A little collie. A little skin.
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Starting point is 00:53:21 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
Starting point is 00:53:56 The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And we're back. And, whew, ecology, man. Yeah. Feeling good. You look about 14 years younger. Thank you. Stinky, but it works. Stinky, though.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Whoo-hoo-hoo. She told me. My eyes are watering. Miles. Jack. 23andMe, baby. 23andMe baby 23andMe yes mine just arrived
Starting point is 00:54:47 in the mail the dating site where you try and be with Michael Jordan is back so 23andMe is that DNA test kit big fan
Starting point is 00:54:56 that will either reaffirm your very superficial sense of racial identity or throw it into a tailspin when you realize you might be kind of a little bit Asian
Starting point is 00:55:03 but we've always wondered here what the fuck they're doing with our DNA? Because it's like at this point, like 5 million people have used it. They're storing a bank. Yeah, they're like, what are they doing? Is this like for a big database or whatever? So. Is it? Is it?
Starting point is 00:55:16 We got a little announcement today that, well, it's on the path to darkness. So they announced today with pharma giant GlaxoSmithKline that they will be using all of your genetic info to help them get richer, basically to do more research on drugs. I love it. Now, the first project is looking at new drugs for Parkinson's. So I'm all about the research. Don't get me wrong. Based on a gene called LRRK2 that is mutated in some Parkinson's patients. And so they're saying that this gene may play a significant role in Parkinson's, even among patients who don't have mutations. So they're trying to use it for good.
Starting point is 00:55:50 However, right, where does it go after this? Because I think right now, when you take the test, you do have an option to opt out of having your DNA being used for research. But like, what's the deal for the people who have already given up their fucking gene sequence for them to research? Are they going to get discounts on medication? No. Do they get a stake in the benefits of this research when they've surrendered their own genetic information?
Starting point is 00:56:13 No. Probably not. So it's a slippery slope because I think the dark side is like this is just going to be a big database. Yeah, but you're paying for them. You pay them. Right. Right, exactly. You're paying them.
Starting point is 00:56:24 The greatest scheme. And then they're selling that. Right, exactly. You're paying them. The greatest scheme. And then they're selling that. Oh, I wish I was that smart. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Damn. That's the biggest bait and switch ever.
Starting point is 00:56:34 They're like, oh, yeah. They're like, so you buy this information? Join my Facebook group. Gotcha. Yeah. They're paying us. They got caught. To give us their GNA.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Their genetic. Their GNA. Their GNA. Their gangster. Their GMA. Good morning, America. They're paying us to give us their genetic, their GNA, their gangster sequence. Their GMA, Good Morning America. Now, will it all be anonymous, like not connected to people's identities? Well, they just have all this data. But so they'll be like, oh, okay, so we have the genetic sequence of a woman who is of like mostly Irish-German descent of this age.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And like we can use that. German descent of this age and like we can use that and like they just have a huge just basically a whole plethora of genetic information to sort of back this research not that the research itself is going to be bad because like this is it's useful to have that information but it's all about like you know hold on this this is this was y'all playing the whole time like I think GlaxoSmithKline like invested like 300 million in 23andMe. Oh, really? The main geneticist person at 23andMe worked with the dude at GlaxoSmithKline. Yeah, I love it. But before at another gene company before. So they were probably like, oh, okay, so you go over there.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I'm going to start this thing. I actually really love this stuff, like studying genes. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I was just like, denim, cotton. I love it. No, it's such I was just like denim cotton I love it no such an easy alone joke no it's insane yeah I don't know I think at some point
Starting point is 00:57:53 there probably has to be a little bit more oversight on like you know this is probably the most sensitive information you can have but we're gonna be able to make a human the way we want to make a human but then that's just like ethically, is that okay? Or morally, is that okay? Yeah, when you go down like the Gattaca Road.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, if you really want to go down this path. But, you know, hey. Have you ever done it? Have you ever done those gene tests? Have a baby? No, 23 and a half. Have you ever had a genetically engineered baby? Not yet, but I will.
Starting point is 00:58:19 No comment. But let's say number 4228 is my favorite. I've never done one of those. I don't trust them. I've never trusted them. I have two of them. I have an Ancestry.com one and a 23andMe one chilling in my garage because I've been about to do it and I'm like, no, something don't
Starting point is 00:58:33 feel right. Don't do it. And I already know I'm black and Japanese, so I don't need to know anymore. Maybe there'll be some Korean or Chinese in there. Fine, I'll deal with that. I don't need to give them my DNA. It's not like they're telling you who your great great great great grandparents are
Starting point is 00:58:47 well if they had done 23andMe they could have you know it's just like okay like I'm Czech German Danish and then Native American
Starting point is 00:58:54 and then something else but it's like I don't need a fucking DNA test yeah I think the one interesting thing would be to see like the other parts
Starting point is 00:59:03 that you don't realize because I feel like you know in Japan it's an island country and pretty homogenous. But I know there's got to be other things in there. And I'm interested to know that. Yeah, yeah. I'm not shitting on people. My brother did it.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I'm more interested in the African ancestry one. I think that's the only one that would be cool. Because then you could be like, despite being African American, we can tell you where in Africa you most likely came from. That's a little more useful for my own identity, but there's something about just giving up my gene sequence. I would want to know more about my gene sequence than my ancestry. Right, because they have the health ones that will tell you, you might be at risk for these things, or based on your DNA,
Starting point is 00:59:39 we can tell you probably don't need caffeine. Or you will have this. 23andMe does that too. Oh, really? Okay, well sign me up. 23andMe, big too. Oh, really? Okay, well sign me up. 23andMe, big fan. Big fan, you're back on board. Okay, great. Paul Ryan, call me.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Can we get Paul on the phone? Let's try. Sophie, can we get him? He's busy. Okay, come on, Paul. He's eating ice cream right now. No, he's working out. What flavor of ice cream, if Paul Ryan were to be eating ice cream right now, what flavor would you guess? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Miles. He would be going to Falkirk, Scotland to get the new one, Hellman's Mayonnaise, which is a new flavor of ice cream. You're lying. Yo, this ice cream shop in Falkirk, Scotland, they got a lot of buzz on the internet. Be right there, baby. They were straight up, finally. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:24 People were either like, what the fuck is this? We don't even, I mean, I get it. I'm not like a mayonnaise phobic person. I'm fine having it on shit. But also at the same time, the idea of even a spoonful of mayonnaise at once
Starting point is 01:00:37 makes me want to drive. But just put your mayonnaise in the fucking freezer. Am I allowed to say all these curse words? Yes. Okay, I don't know. I mean, you've already been talking about massive amounts of cum. I think our listeners can hear the fucking freezer. Am I allowed to say all these curse words? Yes. Okay, I don't know. I mean, you've already been talking about massive amounts of cum.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Okay, I think our listeners can hear the F word. They can handle this. Mom. But yeah, but it's weird. Some people have been like, outright, no,
Starting point is 01:00:54 this is wrong. This is an abomination. This is wrong. Other people are just sort of like, they say that like, mayo's like a secret ingredient for some people, like people use it in cakes.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Like it helps like a little bit add moisture, richness to a cake. And then the people who have actually had it say it's surprisingly good. Like it's just a very rich, creamy flavor. Hey, if you're listening, if you want to ship it over. Is it sweet? Lightly.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It's like, yeah, I think they've made it a little bit sweeter, but mayonnaise is sort of like the basis for it. This sounds like a Nathan for you. It does. Yeah, it does. Like the poop flavored frozen yogurt. Just to get a buzz going. Do you fuck with mayonnaise? Do you think you'd fuck?
Starting point is 01:01:30 I don't not fuck with mayonnaise. You're not out here hugging a jar of almonds. I'm not a huge, huge fan. I'm not like Nick Weiger of the Doughboys who will eat a spoonful of mayonnaise as a snack. Disgusting. Sick freak.
Starting point is 01:01:46 One of my favorite foods in the world is the cranberry tuna salad at Whole Foods. Have you ever had that shit? I have had it, but I don't like sweet with savory, especially with chicken salad or tuna salad. Like grapes in my chicken salad? No. I like sweet with savory,
Starting point is 01:02:02 so this doesn't immediately offend me, but it kind of does because I don't think I've ever had... Well, yeah, I guess I do like mayonnaise-based things that have sweetness, so I'll shut up and try it, I guess. Yeah, put your bowl of mayonnaise down, Jack. Put your mayonnaise down, dude. It's good. The whitest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I mean, what they should do, Japanese mayonnaise, Kewpie mayonnaise, that's where it's at because that's already kind of sweet. I mean, what they should do, Japanese mayonnaise, Kewpie mayonnaise, that's where it's at because that's already kind of sweet. Dude. Yeah. You just gave your idea out and somebody's going
Starting point is 01:02:30 to steal that idea. That's fine. Whatever, man. I forget better ideas. People take a lifetime thinking up. Kewpie is sweet? Like Miracle Whip?
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's a little bit sweeter. That's like the X factor in a lot of the, when Anthony Bourdain was going so crazy over Japanese egg salad sandwiches. Japanese mayonnaise is just different, so it's a little bit sweeter.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Get it at your local Asian market. I will. I'll try it. Well, speaking of things that white people love, Frasier might be coming back, you guys. Any fans in here? Did you ever watch Frasier? I mean, if it's on, it's on. But I'm not like,? I mean, if it's on, it's on.
Starting point is 01:03:05 But I'm not like, I got a lot. If it's on, it's on. If it's on, it's fucking on. Get the mayo! Paul! It's on! Paul, it's on! I started watching it a little bit more once it got on Netflix
Starting point is 01:03:23 because of Super Guest Jamie Loftus' obsession with it. What's up, Jamie? She loves her some Frasier. She would. She was on a live episode of the Cracked Podcast talking about her weird sexual feelings towards Niles. But she also talked about the show enough that I was like, Oh yeah, maybe Frazier wasn't that bad. And,
Starting point is 01:03:47 uh, it's not that bad. I just don't give a fuck. Right. I'm not invested in it. I never watched it back then. Like, I don't care now.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I don't give a fuck about tossed salads and scrambled eggs. Why are they, why? This is the thing though, with all these reboots, like Roseanne and Will and Grace and Murphy Brown. It's just like, yeah. It's like the industry sort of reluctance to either come up. thing though with all these reboots like Roseanne and Will and Grace and Murphy Brown. Murphy? Yeah. Excuse me? The industry's sort of
Starting point is 01:04:07 reluctance to either come up with new shit. Is it the same Murphy? I think it was like mostly. I'm so sorry. This first time I'm hearing about it. Yeah. Wow. Murphy's back? They've been talking about it. I think it's on its way back. Sign me up. But this whole thing is like, yo, why
Starting point is 01:04:23 aren't we just Embracing new creators New stories POCs LGBTQ Community Like what the Like we don't need to reboot These old shows
Starting point is 01:04:32 That are sort of Relics of the You know bygone era Well see Roseanne Came back and she had A Muslim neighbor So Yeah that's fine
Starting point is 01:04:39 That answers your question And she peddles Pizza gate conspiracies But yeah I think it's basically You know These shows were on at a time when a TV rating was like impressive if it got 25% of the viewing population. And like it was like tons and tons of people watched these things because there weren't all these streaming services. And so a quick way to like hack into that part of our history is just to like bring the actual shows back and you know the ratings have been huge so it's a hack that makes
Starting point is 01:05:12 sense uh i just don't necessarily know that we're moving the culture forward it's literally like the maga version of tv development right like just looking in their rear view, hey, that was pretty cool. Hey, man. Why don't we bring that back? Yeah. And it's not forward thinking. You know, and like,
Starting point is 01:05:30 a lot of your audiences are younger. They're getting younger. And they, you know, we're out here. We're looking for other shit. Tell me when Joe Dirt's back.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I will audition for that role. Joe Dirt? Remember Joe Dirt? Yeah. The David Spade movie? Yeah. Yeah. Who's Gerduse? Who's Gerdones? Does anybody want to reboot Joe Dirt with me? Dirt? Yeah. The David Spade movie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's your do's?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Who's your don'ts? Does anybody want to reboot Joe Dirt with me? Yeah, I'm down. Okay, tight. We'll do our own Joe Dirt. We'll talk off air because we don't want this idea stolen. Thank you. I'm not like my Japanese mayonnaise ice cream idea.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Shut up. But yo, I would love to see Living Single rebooted. Oh, that would have been great. I would have fucking flipped up. New York Undercover? I mean, it wasn't a great show, but if it came back, I was like, yeah. Night Court. What is New York Undercover?
Starting point is 01:06:11 It was starring Michael DiLorenzo and Malik Yoba. Malik Yoba was from Cool Runnings and many other things, and Michael DiLorenzo, little known fact, he was in the Beat It video with Michael Jackson. Oh, shit. But yeah, it was just about these cops. There was a non-all-white cop duo just navigating the crimes in New York. And it was done in a way that I know most young people were like, yo, New York undercovers, wave.
Starting point is 01:06:36 This is the second time I've heard somebody call for a Living Single reboot. So I think if one more person calls for it, they technically have to reboot it. Okay. call for it. Okay. Call for it. Call. The A's have it. Living single. I've hit the gavel. Reboot that shit. So let it be written so let it be done. Also Different World would be pretty good. Different World? Yeah. Yeah. That's just the main character of that show really it's the college. Right. Think about it, man. Yeah. I just miss Jasmine Guy.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah. Is she okay? What's she up to? Jasmine, what's up? Big fan. She could be like the dean or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Ever. Yep. It was a pleasure having you as always. It's nice to be back. I love coming here and chatting with you guys. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Where can people find you? You can find me on the internet, E-V-E-R-M-A-I-N-A-R-D and then also I'm in the movie it's on Netflix now called The Feels
Starting point is 01:07:31 what yeah okay it's out on Netflix what's it about gays no it's about
Starting point is 01:07:36 it's about a bachelorette party that kind of goes awry and like it is queer positive it's LGBTQ but it's it was a cool film to be a part of we improvised it two weeks and it goes awry. It is queer positive. It's LGBTQ.
Starting point is 01:07:47 But it was a cool film to be a part of. We improvised it two weeks. It's with Constance Wu and Angela Trimber. Oh, shit. Yeah, and then the cast and crew is over 80% female, including the crew. It was pretty tight. It was cool to be a part of. And the director, Janay Lamarck.
Starting point is 01:08:04 The director was a 60-year-old white man. Brad. He's an ally, though, I guess. No, but it was a conscious effort. That's cool. It's improvised, huh? So you just had sort of scene structure stuff? Like, okay, we got to get to this ending for this scene or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That's dope. It was really cool. It was a really great experience. And it's called The Feels. Yeah. Lauren Belinda Parks is also co-writer, and she's also in it. It was cool. It's dope. It was really cool. It was a really great experience. And it's called The Feels. Yeah. Lauren Belinda Parks is also co-writer and she's also in it. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It was fun. It was tight. Josh Fadum, Kareem is in it. So it's tight. Yeah, it's so great. Some funny people in that.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, it was really fun. So that's on Netflix right now. It is a comedy. I'm literally going to watch it right now or tonight. Okay, tight.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah. I love anything improvised. Yeah. I play regular Helen. Is that like your character's name is regular Helen, or tonight. Okay, tight. Yeah. I love anything improvised. Yeah. I play regular Helen. Is that like your character's name is regular Helen? It's regular Helen, yeah. What's the other Helen like? Don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Oh, that's just like your shitty name, like a fucking regular Helen. Well, there's like a story about how like I'm a chef, and then I go, okay, I'm not going to spoil it. Because I'm sure there's a backstory to this name. Yeah, there is a backstory. Okay, all right. Yeah, but it was fun. It was a great experience.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It's led to some more fun things. But yeah, I can finally say it's on Netflix. It was just one of those things where it was like, win! Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now it's there. Now it's there. Yeah. Constance, congrats.
Starting point is 01:09:17 It's about to be so huge, too. Yeah, well, she's in Crazy Rich Asians. I know. She's in everything. She's the best. Do you have a tweet, by any chance chance that you've been enjoying from anyone? From Constance? Just from anyone.
Starting point is 01:09:31 It's a new thing we ask for. You know who I really like? The ShareZone. Oh, yeah. On Twitter. Uh-huh. That's who I'm really enjoying right now. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:42 The motherfucking ShareZone. They always have a really dumb thing. What's an example of one of their tweets? Well, they make memes. Now it says, like, there's a photo I'm looking at right now. It's a skull mug. It says, drink up, bitch. It's hot outside.
Starting point is 01:09:56 You need to hydrate. If you're hungry, I can get you a snack. I mean, it's, like, weirdly positive, but it's still, like like always kind of fucked up. Deshares zone. Big shout out. Big fan of Deshares zone. That's a follow.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah. And then like some guy tweeted, why would I buy a card game from somebody who can't even spell? And then Deshares zone wrote, I fucked up and will try to do better. Sorry, Robert. Like misspelling. I mean, it's just dumb.
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's just dumb stuff that I love. But I also really like, you know, positive messages. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't like nihilist memes? No. I'm going to go and I'm going to go be alone again today, guys. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Is this podcast ending?
Starting point is 01:10:37 No, no, no, no. Okay. Outside of we have a lot of concerned friends and family. Just want to tell you how much they love you. I'm doing okay. I'm not like sad. I'm just to tell you how much they love you. I'm doing okay. I'm not sad. I'm just like, our thoughts are made out of atoms. I've been reading a lot of-
Starting point is 01:10:49 Oh, yeah. Like how thoughts are physical things and can affect matter outside of the body because it's in that- Exactly. Matter is granular. I've been reading a lot of quantum physics and physics. I know. We can talk about that.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Okay, tight. Yeah. Just, we'll go to this doctor first. Okay. No, come on, man. I was being really sincere. No, I was too. No, because my go to this doctor first. Okay. No, come on, man. I was being really sincere. No, I was too. No, because my dad put me on to that very early.
Starting point is 01:11:08 He was like, you know, because people want to act like that doesn't exist. It does. But electrons are firing and that is matter. And you have atomic resonance. Yes. So, like, if you're feeling good and I'm around you, the higher vibration is going to go up. But if I'm so depressed and you're like, oh, why am I fucking feeling depressed? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Bam. Anyways. Boom. Really into that stuff. No, it's very, yeah, energy is very palpable. Yeah. Especially people's. I mean, why am I fucking feeling depressed? Bam. Anyways, really into that stuff. No, it's very, yeah, energy's very palpable. Yeah. Especially people's. I mean, Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Right. Look at him. Because he recognizes God. Charisma. Tom Crazy, calm truth. Charisma. Calm truth. Yes, listen at 92.3.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Oh, DJ Charisma? Yeah. Yo, that's the homegirl. I used to work with her. No way. Yeah. Shout out Young California. Yo, it's me, Charisma. Hey, Miles. Charisma? Yeah. Yo, that's the homegirl. I used to work with her. No way. Shout out Young California. Yo, it's me, Charisma.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Hey, Miles. Charisma. That's a very local LA radio thing. For me, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like is, it's a picture, I don't know if people saw the picture, that was going around of Grimes, Elon Musk, and his son getting off a plane together, and they look like the weirdest couple. And it's a quote retweet with that photo, and above it says, sorry, I can't play Fortnite.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I was grounded by my stepmom, Grimes. And the kid looks all like a kid who would be, yeah, like, you'd be like, man, I can't play Fortnite. Anyway, I love their love. I do, too. They are my relationship goals. Am I right, guys? You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:12:30 A tweet I've been enjoying. Let's go with Matt Oswalt. Matt Oswalt said, If Obama was president and a tape existed of him telling a lawyer to pay off his mistress in cash, the GOP would have repealed the Emancipation Proclamation by now. Which is definitely true. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:12:50 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes in our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. Oh, today. What's that going to be? I mean, it's from DJ Charisma. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Well, you've been talking a lot about Tom Cruise. So why don't we play a track by Calm Trues? Ooh. And this song is by Calm Trues, and it's called Glowio. I don't know what the name's supposed to mean exactly, but, you know, if you know Calm Trues and stuff, it sounds like just spooky 80s sort of synth kind of beat music. And this just kind of gives exactly, but, you know, if you know Comtruse and stuff, it sounds like just spooky 80s sort of synth kind of beat music, and this just kind of
Starting point is 01:13:28 gives me a little, you know, just a little shoulder pop as I listen to it. And it just felt right, because it's been a Comtruse, Tom Cruise-centric episode. Alright, we're gonna ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow, because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye-bye bye thanks for having me Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. crime and corruption. They were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
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