The Daily Zeitgeist - Marvel Too Real, Trump Was Like REALLY Bad At His Job 11.8.21

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

In episode 1025, Jack and guest co-host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Blair Socci to discuss What Zuckerberg's metaverse means to our humanity, FACEBOOK 'META' CHANGE Trademark Applicants Will S...ell to Zuck FOR $20 MILLION!!!, Just In Case You’re Wondering Who’s On The Right Side Here: Vladimir Putin Is Worried About ‘Cancel Culture’, Former Adviser Says Trump Let Thousands Die of COVID for No Reason, Sitcom Premise Alert: Would You Become A Nudist For A Cheap Deal on A House? Prediction: Santa Claus Will Be the Next Pawn in the Vaccine Wars, Marvel’s Eternals Continues an Uncomfortable Blockbuster Trend and more! What Zuckerberg's metaverse means to our humanity FACEBOOK 'META' CHANGE Trademark Applicants Will Sell to Zuck FOR $20 MILLION!!! Just In Case You’re Wondering Who’s On The Right Side Here: Vladimir Putin Is Worried About ‘Cancel Culture’ Former Adviser Says Trump Let Thousands Die of COVID for No Reason Select Subcommittee Releases Initial Findings From Transcribed Interview Of Dr. Deborah Birx Sitcom Premise Alert: Would You Become A Nudist For A Cheap Deal on A House? Prediction: Santa Claus Will Be the Next Pawn in the Vaccine Wars Covid vaccines for children are coming. So is misinformation Trump Official Planned to Give Santa Claus Performers Early Access to Covid-19 Vaccine Marvel’s Eternals Continues an Uncomfortable Blockbuster Trend Director Joe Russo Has a Gay Cameo Role in Avengers: Endgame Did Eternals Really Blame Hiroshima on the MCU's First Gay Hero? LISTEN: Fafo - Zack Fox Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:01:42 of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 210, episode one of True Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. You seem unsure. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Monday, November 8th, 2021, which of course
Starting point is 00:02:19 means that it's International Tongue Twister Day. National Dunce Day, which is listed as a special interest. So there is a special interest group of dunces who self-identify as such. World Orphans Day, also the first day everyone's driving home from work with much less sunlight in the evening, so keep your head on the swivel out there. My name is Jack O'Brien,
Starting point is 00:02:41 a.k.a. JFK Jr. He will appear on the knoll where the shooter had been To join Trump's team Didn't show up, though Maybe he used the wrong calendar He won't ignore Trump 24 All the loony people Where do they all come from?
Starting point is 00:03:03 All the loony people. They love some QAnon. That is courtesy of Chris Yamaguchi-Main at Wapple House on Twitter, where he's a really great follow, in addition to being the AKA GOAT. Miles is out today because he's been arrested by these cops who kept saying he's been a very bad boy and suggestively like tapping their rubbery nightsticks in their palm. Oh, that's hot. And they weren't wearing shirts and were just like shredded. Miles got arrested by the sexy cops again? Yeah, by the sexy cops.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So we'll have to see. Well, we'll have to hear from him how that all went. But that is okay because I'm joined by a special guest co-host who is an Emmy-nominated TV writer, the artist and comedian behind the critically acclaimed one-woman show Boss Uma's Girl and the critically acclaimed podcast The Bechdelcast, My Year in Mensa, Lolita Podcast, and ActCast by Jamie Loftus, which is appropriately named because she is Jamie Loftus!
Starting point is 00:04:04 Woo! A.K.A. Mystery Brunette Spotted Out with Sunny the Dog. Trouble in Paradise? Oh no. Sometimes I just think of Daily Mail headlines of me being spotted outside
Starting point is 00:04:18 with my dog. It's my goal to be called a mystery brunette at some point in my life. I want to be a mystery brunette. Right? That sounds amazing. Jack, you could be a mystery brunette at some point in my life i want to be that would be huge right that sounds amazing jack you could be a mystery brunette i you know i've been working on it uh me and my team have been working on it but no luck thus far that's funny though like you're picturing yourself as you're walking the dog in like those paparazzi photos of like celebrities like with their coffee and their dog
Starting point is 00:04:46 yeah it's like except that sunny's the celebrity in this situation and he was actually having sex with one of the jenner sisters and then he spotted with me a mystery brunette trouble in paradise could be sorry i should have explained my headcanon no i, I got all of that. I don't talk to anybody ever. Well, Jamie, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by another one of the faces on Mount Zeitmore, a brilliant stand-up comedian who you've seen on MTV, Comedy Central, NBC, TruTV, E! and Fuse, if you watch just a ton of TV. And on Quibi, if you've just been alive and not living under a rock these past couple years she is one of vulture's 20 comedians you should know about in 2020 and i'm gonna go ahead and say uh you should still know about her this year and next
Starting point is 00:05:36 year basically uh you should know about her until further notice please welcome the brilliant and talented blair sake oh my god it's fucking great to be back i love the night guys hello jack hello jamie the legends ball here it's a what it's a legends ball a legends ball hell yeah we're all wearing gowns also you can't see on the zoom call. Yeah. Always. My shirt, it looks like a button-up shirt, but it extends all the way to the ground. How have you guys been? I did the bean up top to fit in the rhyme scheme
Starting point is 00:06:20 of the Eleanor Rigby, a.k.a., but now I'm just going to pretend like I say it like that to kind of keep it going. But you guys have both been traveling? Yeah. We've both been traveling. We've been hopping around.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. Best place you've been on your travels. Where have you been, Blair? Where have you been at? I've been in London. I've been in Los Angeles a bit here and there, yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You've been to London to visit the Queen. That is a children's book that you guys probably are not familiar with. But that's cool. How was London? What's going on over in london it was really cool i was shooting a pilot there but i hadn't been so i don't live in london one other time like many many years ago and it was cool to go after covid and everything and see see what's going on over there very cool i had some fish and chips and some mashed peas do you have bangers and mash is that
Starting point is 00:07:27 that's london right yeah bangers and mash i didn't get to the bangers and mash but um i am a fan of bangers and mash love it the best did you play a british person a british no i played myself unfortunately i wish i was playing a British. Yeah. That would have been better and more fun. I wanted to judge your accent. I mean, you're a natural British. And Jamie, you were out and about hitting the road. What's new out there on the stages of America?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Anything? Oh, it's the same old shit, I tell you what. But in a good way, in a nice way, I went to Boston and New York in Philadelphia. I had like a hot dog in Philadelphia that I was really wanting to get the morning after a show. It's like everything. It was perfect. Like the morning after a show, I woke up just in time. My friend gave me a ride and we got a hot dog that had a fish cake on top of it. On purpose? It wasn't even a mistake, Jack.
Starting point is 00:08:32 By design? Wow. Yeah, that was because I've been trying to get the hot dogs everywhere where you can't get it anywhere else. You know, like, right. Yeah. Like, oh, this is uniquely this city's bad idea. And speaking of which, you can get beans on hot dogs in a lot of places. I've been eating bean hot dogs.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Wow. What kind of beans? Like chili? There is chili beans, but there's also just in the Southwest, they just do regular canned beans or fried beans. Like baked beans or refried beans? Wow. I mean, I guess that makes sense. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's really good. I'm still in the hot dog hole. But yeah, I had a fish cake on a hot dog. And I think that I feel comfortable saying that was close to the highlight. Wow. So it works. I love a hot dog like you, Jamie. I'm a hot dog freak
Starting point is 00:09:24 also. They're so good. What's your favorite? Well, I think for nostalgia purposes, I like a Costco hot dog. Have you ever had a Costco hot dog? They're really good. I used to badger the hell out of my mom to get me one when I was a child. A company like her on the shopping trip.
Starting point is 00:09:51 They're like $1.50, and they're still one of the best. I feel like I've paid more than $12 for a hot dog, and it's not been as good as a Costco hot dog. Yeah, shout out to Costco hot dogs. They're really holding it down for, I'd say, like 30 years or however long Costco's been open. Uninterrupted. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't their CEO threaten to resign if they like raised the price on the hot dog or something?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, my God. You never hear about that sort of integrity these days. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's made up by a CEO PR firm of some sort. I heard something. This is a CEO story that's sad, and I don't remember the whole thing, so I don't know why I started the sentence. But there was something really sad
Starting point is 00:10:34 that happened with the CEO of Texas Roadhouse. Someone should look into that. He died. Oh, okay. That sounds like it's a clue that okay that sounds like it's like a clue that like a killer would give to the police like sorry this is yeah mr policeman i gave you all the clues google ceo texas roadhouse something sad happened i don't remember anyways neither here nor there all right
Starting point is 00:11:01 we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment blair but we're going to tell the listeners just a few of the things we're talking about. I want to check in with this metaverse story, the switch that Facebook's trying to pull, the switcheroo. They're trying to treat that as a real thing that, well, Facebook told us to do it. So this is our future now. So I just want to get you guys' thoughts on that and look at a couple of stories involving meta. We're going to talk about just checking in with in case you are worried that you are on the wrong side of the cancel culture thing. Oh, thank God. Vladimir Putin has weighed in. And he's a king. Yeah. Thank you. We're going to talk about the former Trump advisor who, you know, confirmed that Trump let over 100,000 people die of COVID for no good reason.
Starting point is 00:11:51 We're going to talk about what we should do with the defund the police movement. That has hit the news where you can buy this like extraordinarily underpriced three bedroom home. But you have to like live in a nudist resort as a nudist. Oh, my God. So that's a wild monkey. Yeah. Wow. So I want to talk about that. Talk about our writer, J.M. McNabb, has predicted now that Santa Claus will be the next pawn in the vaccine wars.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So we're going to look at that. Did you get an early look at this year's Santa University script? Because... Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Yeah. And we're going to talk about Eternals, which is keeping alive one of the best trends and blockbusters where they just, you know, use huge global tragedies as a plot point. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Blair, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, if I can be honest, the first one was girl waving on a tractor.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Unpack that. Unpack that. I'm so glad you are being honest. I would never lie to my Zeitgeist family. That was the first search on my Google history. Girl waving on a tractor. I was looking for a meme I was interested in making, but I couldn't find the right image. Can you give us the ideological content behind the meme? It was going to be something about Ariana Grande waving to Kim Kardashian, but it never happened.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It never came to fruition. I couldn't connect the dots. I like where it's going though. I see where you're going with it. We're early in the writer's room right now but I've been out of town so it's kind of hard.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I see where you're going too because I'm smart and know stuff. I've always said that about you. What does it mean where where are you going with it for the listener but just for yeah other people yeah okay if i must break it down as all good jokes are known to be um you need to explain them but ariana grande famous high profile ex of pete davidson now oh right to be dating kim kardashian yeah yeah sorry she's out there being a mystery brunette yeah that's true or is pete davidson
Starting point is 00:14:34 no i guess pete davidson is the mystery of that equation yeah oh right he's yeah the mystery great run it's like how can he keep going? It's incredible, really. Yeah, where does he kind of top out? He dated the Bridgerton girl, right? That was the other one? Yeah, you keep thinking he's going to top out, and then he just, another beautiful woman comes around. I think my brain has refused to accept
Starting point is 00:15:03 that Ariana Grande and Pete Davidson broke up because that is a very obvious connection that I should have been able to make. And I was like, huh. That's okay, Jack. She's married to a real estate agent now. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. That is like famous person endgame where they date like three interesting people that are unstable and then they
Starting point is 00:15:25 marry a real estate agent okay well a real estate agent must be really close in my future then yeah any day now what is something you think is overrated okay look i'm just gonna say it oxycontin i i think it's bad yeah i think I think I'm watching. I know. Look, it's just my opinion. It's just my opinion. I think it's bad. I've been you know, a little under the weather. So I was watching this show joke sick. It's so fucking crazy. Oh my god. It's so sad. I cannot have Oxycontin i think it's overrated crowd i'm saying that i watched the first two episodes because i have a huge crush on will poulter and then i was like wow i'm learning and then i turned it off yeah it's so brutal i almost didn't want to finish it but yeah is it all out now it's not all the way over but there's like six episodes or seven episodes or something maybe actually can't make a comeback at the end kind of a character study yeah i think you've probably spoken too soon because you haven't
Starting point is 00:16:40 finished it you don't know what she went through you don't know what she went through blair that's true and look i have spoken to you soon before so you could very well be right yeah you got that calise tattoo on your back right yeah mother of dragons at the beginning of season whatever what is something you think is underrated professor snape this man you know he seemed like the worst person in history bullying children as a teacher which is actually one of the worst crimes in humanity and then we find out in the end that he was only at hogwarts to protect his dead lover's child that she had with his mortal enemy slash bully it's honestly really a Greek tragedy for Snape no doubt like on and and I think that all gets
Starting point is 00:17:36 lost on it like this troubled evil seeming man and and then we find out the truth that he was only there to protect Carrie the entire time. Damn. Oh, and then also really quickly, also underrated, Catherine Schwarzenegger's loud chewing, underrated. And the only fans that I had for my feet for 18 hours, underrated. Wow. underrated wow were you like it was so successful that you were just like i feel bad for all these people giving me their money and yeah yeah bella thorne actually launched a campaign against me but no i had it for 18 hours and it turned into the it started with the tweet and then that like weirdly went viral and then i was like oh and then that like weirdly went viral. And then I was
Starting point is 00:18:25 like, Oh, I, and then I saw these replies from all these weirdo men. And I was like, what? There's actually like a viable market for this. And I was just like, Oh my God. Yes. I'll just have an ankles down. No hole ankles down. No hole only fans. And then, then um it was really going well successful and then my um my reps made me take it down oh what the fuck wow and that was such a huge profile boost they were like we're not getting a piece of this honestly it's nice to know that your reps care about you i don't know i don't know if anyone would make me take it down i think they'd be like i think they were worried that i was just gonna make a full foray into like performance art and become such a successful entrepreneur that i was gonna give up my entire career there you go there and then and then yeah then you don't need them if your feet are paying the
Starting point is 00:19:21 bills which they could i wish my feet were paying the bills i which they could. I wish my feet were paying the bills. I was getting so into it. I was going to like step on electronics and shit and pies. And it was really becoming fun for me. But all my dreams were crashed against the rocks. Now, stepping on pies, I get that's super hot. But stepping on electronics, what kind of electronics are people into watching people step on? I didn't know about any of this. I was really, I didn't know anything about this entire foot underworld that exists.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But I just heard that was a thing. And I was like, I can do that. I'll do that shit. Step on some fucking rotary phones or something. Sounds dangerous for your feet more than anything. Oh, yeah. You would have to meet it with some strength and resolve. But I think I could do it for the cash.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Right. Yeah. And the art. I was going to say, and also for love of the game, of course. Yeah, absolutely. I'm just checking WikiFeet right now because I haven't checked in a really long time. And these pools really keep the page updated there's a picture of me from two weeks ago no way no actually sorry there's a no there's a picture
Starting point is 00:20:32 of me from what from Monday morning oh my god I mean who who runs wikifeet when I go on there I'm like I'm like these pools caught my feet from an Instagram story. Not even the feet. Yeah. It's a screenshot of my story in Philadelphia Monday morning. I didn't even realize my feet made the shot. That's on me. Oh my God. Saw it after feet, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm feeling good. I feel like we both have viable feet. What are we doing right now? Jack, we have to go. Yeah, sorry. i feel like i'm wasting you guys oh man i'd never been to the front page of wiki feet first of all it like gives off it gives off a like religious vibe because the font is like christian website font and then it has footsteps next to it which always always reminds me of that. Oh, I never even thought of that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 How long? And then, like, so just a real change of pace from the header down to the content of the site. But, man, could you imagine, like, winning Feet of the Day or Feet of the Week like that? That must be huge. Yeah. How do you campaign for something like that?
Starting point is 00:21:43 I'm just, hey, anyone listening? If you know, you know, send me a DM. I don't ask any questions. You got to have an in at WikiFeet. You got to have a cousin that works at WikiFeet. Right. Shout out to Sarah Dust Johnny, who is, I mean, but also not because it is weird that this website exists and you can't
Starting point is 00:22:07 get your page taken down even if you want to so it's complicated yeah it's complicated the header on wikifeet also is like i have an idea regarding the eu copyright act there's no reason why visitors from the eu should suffer because of poor government choices. I think those poor government choices are like them, like not wanting a creepy website to be able to like steal people's photos without their permission. Right. Anyways, signed Eli. I won't go into his idea because it's so brilliant. You have to see for yourself. I mean, yeah, that's a lot of money. And Blair, just real quick, this Snape realization, what are you reading harry potter you just rereading it or it's just a deep deeply held belief you've always had well i have been
Starting point is 00:22:54 re-watching some of the movies during my illness and it was just something i was thinking about because you know i really held a lot of animosity towards Snape in my heart the whole time. I thought he was so cruel to Harry. And it just shows, you know, we really don't understand what others experience most of the time. You know, be kind because everyone you meet is fighting in a secret battle type of thing. Vibes. Yeah. It's almost like J.K. Rowling
Starting point is 00:23:25 pulled a reverse Snape on us all. I know. I mean, it's so sad. Like, every time I think about her, I just get so sad. I'm like, why can't I just fully love someone? To love anyone is so complicated. Humans are so foul.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah, the worst. Even the brilliant ones yeah i got i have a tangential thought to that do you remember how lemony snicket used to recommend lolita to kids yeah i do remember that he his new book just came out and i got a someone sent me a screenshot of he like dialed back that he like sort of acknowledged it in his new book and was like that was a bad idea he's like lolita is a book some people think is particularly dangerous to young people so i will not recommend it here but just mention it is one of the most fantastic novels in the world and leave it at that. He's growing. Maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's almost like somebody made one of the best podcasts of the year about Lolita and talked about how he recommended that book to children. I don't know. At the very beginning. Yeah, at the very beginning. Anyways, let's take a quick break
Starting point is 00:24:44 and then we're going to come back and talk about the metaverse. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed
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Starting point is 00:29:12 like one of Seinfeld's comedy specials from the past three years, where it's like someone who has so much success that they become like completely isolated from reality. And then when they try to like replicate their first success, it's just like a baffling and embarrassing like whiff. But it seems like people are responding to the metaverse as though it's like, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:29:37 this is, he, he's nailed it again. Zuckerberg, you've done it again. You brilliant son of a bitch. And I don't, i don't know it feels like the exact opposite of what we need like people are lonely and ground down from being like
Starting point is 00:29:54 dehumanized and treated like cogs and the way that he is planning to address this is by turning us into like literal dehumanized work drones yeah i don't i this whole thing is like it just hurts my head to even think about because it's just like so i don't know i feel like mark zuckerberg really keeps trying to make vr happen and i don't know how many people actually like really want that i feel like it's a very small area of the population that wants to live in Mark Zuckerberg's creepy office with all his alien
Starting point is 00:30:31 friends. Do you guys want that? No. No, I don't want to live in Mark Zuckerberg's creepy office with aliens. I want to meet aliens. It's hard. It's hard. It's, I want to meet aliens. So, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But, yeah. It's a choice for you, Jack. It is, but I also feel like the aliens that I want to meet aren't ones who would hang out with Mark Zuckerberg. So, I think maybe I'm good with just not hanging out with Mark Zuckerberg.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Do you think there's different species of aliens? Like, not just one species? Oh yeah. Really? Oh yeah. Wow. No, I actually I don't know. I think they're out there. I don't know if they're on our planet out there.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah. Anyways, there's a CNN thing piece that's like criticizing how like our behaviors will further become like standardized and mechanical and instead of like making human facial expressions our avatars will just like basically express our emotions with emojis and it's just like that is the design of this and also we can collaborate on a digital document i don't know it seems if i were to predict who would use this i would guess like the people who use facebook now which is parents like i could see parents getting really into like oh i can
Starting point is 00:32:02 communicate with emojis oh i can sit next to my like sexy cartoon friend but i don't think yeah it's i can't see it like expanding past the audience they already like farmville moms will go for this and i mean that respectfully that's so funny did you ever play farmville i didn't i had a lot of friends that got into it. I quit Facebook like a while ago. Damn. How do you interact with people? Where do you get your amazing news?
Starting point is 00:32:35 How do you get radicalized? Where do you get all your bad ideas? Just all the other various platforms. But I do miss the hard-hitting info on Facebook. It reminds me of, did you guys see the movie Disclosure? Or, like, do you remember? It was probably before you were born, Jamie. But, like, it was this Michael Crichton book.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And I was a real Crichton head. So I read it. And then it became this like big movie with michael douglas and demi more and like the main the central like idea was like what if a woman sexually harassed a man at work like that hold on there was there was a what's his name? Who's the? Oh, my God. I was gonna say eat, pray, love for boys. But it's Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. That that guy also wrote a play with that premise of like, could a woman do this? It was like, wow, amazing thought experiment. but the other thing that disclosure had was a prediction about like it took place in seattle so it was like you know the cutting edge of technology and it had this like scene where he had to like steal a document i guess where she was like i just sexually harassed this dude and save but like everything was virtual reality at their company but like the thing that they
Starting point is 00:34:04 were doing was just saving documents like on a desktop but like he had to like put on a virtual reality headset and like walk down a hallway and then like take a file like a physical file out of like a file library and like that's what they thought virtual reality would be which always seemed very stupid and like the dumbest interpretation of what virtual reality would be until this and like mike mark zuckerberg being like yeah you can work together in like with cartoon avatars in physical space and like do all the shit we've been doing on Google Docs and Zoom and, you know, easily and without having to like sit in a room with people, a fake room with people like for years and like people are taking it seriously.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I like I I don't I don't understand a world where VR is like being pitched as boring. Like, why would you want to be able to do boring things differently? Like, I shouldn't. It's just Mark Zuckerberg should find a way to get the boring things done for you. I would be into that. Like, make something efficient. Don't just be like, you can be a cartoon while you have your fucking scum sucking job that you don't like it's like well that's yeah that's a lateral move for me and i guess we should acknowledge that we
Starting point is 00:35:32 are recording this in the metaverse and you know our avatars are pretty fun and when jamie just said yeah she gave me a thumbs up emoji so i can tell that she really meant it i find any evolution of facebook to be terrifying any any sort of spin or new horizon of facebook uh you know it's all very concerning and cuckoo creepy yeah also the company a company like bought the rights to Meta. I think they trademarked Meta like back when he first was like, Facebook is a Meta company. And they are like, we will sell it to you for 20 million dollars. So that's fun. Unreal business decision. Do you think that that is do you think that that's going to actually they'll get their money?
Starting point is 00:36:24 I hope so. I mean, like that seems like I that seems like they're shooting low, like based on how much money Facebook has. Yeah, especially since they already announced it. Yeah. I hope that I hope that they get the money, especially because like, yeah, I feel like $20 million is almost smart to ask for because how could Mark Zuckerberg not give them $20 million? You know? Yeah. Like, they know.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's a sure thing. If they ask for, like, a billion, he could tell them to fuck off. $20 million, you know, he pees that out in the morning. He does. I also didn't like how he, like like brought his wife into that commercial too and like his scary looking dog i was like i just don't want to know anything about this man yeah it's very very strange but like the the faux enthusiasm that i feel like he kind of believes is like really the most off-putting thing about it he's like oh well let's go over here and
Starting point is 00:37:25 oh sick there's somebody who's performing in like five seconds it's gonna disappear in 20 seconds but uh it's okay because we can reach out to them and ask them to leave it up for 60 more seconds it's like what the fuck are you talking about what are you talking about am i awake like that was that whole can you go to sleep in the metaverse yeah can he walk in and i'm taking a nap at his desk yeah yeah you you can if you die in the metaverse you die in reality that's what that was also a thing that we learned can you do sex stuff in the metaverse? Is that allowed? I, you know, go read Disclosure if you really have that question. Oh, no, no. Okay. I take it back. I withdraw. I withdraw. All right. Just a quick update. If you're keeping score at home, Vladimir Putin has entered the fray on cancel culture, joining, you know, the Ellens and the Dave Chappelle's and
Starting point is 00:38:27 like every white guy over the age of 50 on the side of cancel culture is really something, huh? Am I canceled now? That type of energy. This is just so surprising. I cannot believe that Vladimir Putin would come out against cancel culture. I know. I mean, the airways must have been stopped. We all remember this day in history. Just the shock of it all. You know, maybe maybe do you guys think he might be trying to get ahead of something?
Starting point is 00:39:04 Do you think something's on the way that might cancel him? I can't think of anything, but that's just me. Yeah, no, definitely not. That's a good idea, Jamie, though. I mean, maybe Putin has done something bad. Maybe he has done something pretty nasty that he wants a second. Do we believe in restorative justice as it pertains to Vladimir Putin? Only time will tell. That's right. do we believe in restorative justice as it pertains to Vladimir Putin? You know, only time will tell.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That's right. I can't believe that. That is kind of funny of like where the, how far that discourse has gone to the point where he was like, I need to weigh in. It's like, it's so stunning to me that he even knows this conversation is happening, much less feels the need to participate in it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It's just, God. Have you guys seen the Chappelle special, by the way? When dictators come out against cancel culture, it really makes you think. It really makes you think of how useful this could be. Yeah. yeah it really makes you think it's time to evaluate yeah how useful is this conversation if dictators are weighing in with confidence i've never been on the side of vladimir putin like on the side of an argument when vladimir putin like agrees with, but I feel like that has to suck a little bit, but maybe not. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. Yeah, that has to be a wake-up call. Probably not. Almost definitely not. It wasn't a wake-up call when JFK Jr. didn't show up at Dealey Plaza. They were just like, that's what he wanted you to think.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Wait, I know we're kidding and having fun, but that is the craziest thing I've heard, like, in a while where I was like, this is a terrifying. I know that every time in history has been a terrifying time to be alive. But I was like, just thinking about that, really, all those people going there thinking that's a possibility is terrifying. Yeah. And then getting mad at the media for being there and covering them. That was a fun moment. They're like, oh, look at the lamestream media.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Are you guys feeling hurt because JFK Jr. didn't come back from the dead? Oh. Sorry. Sorry, guys. They're like, this is CNN's fault. If they weren't here, JFK Jr. would have been walking down the street. Yeah. All right. And former Trump advisor Deborah Birx has come out like this is sort of something we suspected slash knew, but it did fly under the radar when it happened. And it feels like sort of the what maybe should be the main takeaway from the Trump presidency, which is that he got, I think she's estimating 130,000 people killed with his just ineptitude. Like she was the kind of key coronavirus advisor
Starting point is 00:42:09 that he like still had on his team and was like allegedly listening to throughout the pandemic. And, you know, after he turned on Fauci and she was like, yeah, no, he like, it was really bad. He could have prevented up to 40% of us coronavirus deaths with a better pandemic response. Or just a sooner and anything. It's yeah. It's stories like this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:40 I'm glad that they're getting out there and, but it does like it just sort of keeps bringing back the same lesson i feel like that we've talked about with this that administration a million times which is like there's no what is the punishment for that other than like i feel like the worst thing that's ever going to happen to him is that will be like part of his legacy but there's no like there's no punishment for being so bad at your job that 130 000 people died yeah i mean hopefully it's part of the story when he runs again in 2024 but yeah that's true yeah i remember when they just straight up like it had that like huge event in the rose garden with no mass and then like the whole party like tested positive yeah it's like yeah you're
Starting point is 00:43:35 supposed to be the thought leader here like for the entire country and you're just having like illegal like wedding size like ragers at your fucking house just infecting everyone is just crazy you're like public officials yeah you're like all public officials and you're like the disconnect here i mean there is no one's at the wheel you know yeah it was yeah because so the thing that like everybody was saying from day one other than you know him was that all the president needs to do is like take a back seat to the scientists and the doctors but like give them authority be steadfast and like stay on message that's it just like keep saying the same thing over and over again like that's how you lead during a pandemic like there is a playbook for this and so obviously he didn't do that but then like he he like did so much else that was just like you couldn't have imagined
Starting point is 00:44:36 at the beginning of the pandemic like would that he would even come up with like yeah like that rose garden thing which was to confirm was that brett was that when he confirmed brett no that was uh amy amy that was amy that was yeah that was uh mrs girl boss there was so it was where it was worth it that was for that was for feminism i saw the wildest not to keep going back to where i've been recently but i went to this place for brunch in philadelphia i won't call it out because it's but it's so it was so bizarre they had all these signs around like the owner had some really strong opinions that i agreed with but i didn't understand why they were hanging them in the restaurant but But it was like they were clearly very like pro-choice, which is great.
Starting point is 00:45:30 But there was like a very scary painting that someone had made that just had a clothes hanger and then a circle around it with an X through it. And it said, never again. and then a circle around it with an X through it and it said never again. Does that? Yeah. And then you had to eat an egg. Like they had to eat an egg sitting next to the never again coat hanger abortion sign.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I guess I agree, but why am I eating a waffle? Yeah, buy one, get one free. But also. am i eating a waffle yeah i can't buy one get one free but also you see that shit all the time now i like especially when i go to orange county and make these cars and you know those ones where they have 12 to 17 bumper stickers and they're all like we're get out of the matrix only some are free to free thinkers you're all like, get out of the Matrix. Only some are free thinkers. You're all being caught. And you're just like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Oh, God. It's cuckoo. I was in Topanga Canyon last weekend. And there was somebody who was holding up signs that were from the year 2003 they were like bush lied and like we entered iraq like just it was so strange and outdated but like people were still like honking as they went by but i was just like oh yeah okay uh yeah it's like someone just like thawed out from being cryogenically frozen. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, well, I just woke up, but I'm still mad.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Right. Our brains are so broken. Sometimes it really boggles my mind, like how different our brains are than they were a couple of years ago and how like, I don't know. I keep thinking about, you know, the, the video that Adam Sandler has to show Drew Barrymore at the beginning, at the beginning of every day in 50 first dates. Yeah. I want to make that for the last like two years and just see if someone wants to continue to live after watching it. Honestly, Jamie, I look forward to that so yeah it's an intimate
Starting point is 00:47:46 gesture of love that i can do as the adam sandler of this equation hopefully you can get going on production soon we should actually cut this out and uh have you pitched that to funny or die because there could be big money in your future if uh big money we're talking blairs money from funny or die dozens of dollars guys let's pivot to video see what happens all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Starting point is 00:52:53 And tens of thousands of people are inquiring. And it is apparently in a nudist resort. And that's like in the description, but people are still inquiring, even though I'm pretty sure there aren't that many nudists like just in existence to like be inquiring that much. So the question becomes, would you green light this sitcom about a non-nudist couple living in a nudist resort for the for the good home price or another a secondary question would you would you do it i don't think so i wouldn't no i don't want to see that shit against my will you know i'll take a smaller yeah i'll see i'll take a smaller house somewhere uh where people have their clothes on yeah i don't i don't want to see that but that's just me yeah I think I think if I was it would
Starting point is 00:53:47 depend on where I was at in my housing search but I think if I if I was really striking out if I was like being rejected for loans if I couldn't find a place and I would I would do it. If I could get to a certain point, I would do it. But only if I could live alone for some reason. I have so many questions about nudist colonies. Like, I mean, what are the children wearing? Are they naked too? And then, you know, there's a lot of things I need to know.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I get the feeling no children allowed, I'm hoping. You and me both, Val. But then can you ban children from, I guess you can ban children from a colony? I don't know how the rules of colonies work. So you can only be a childless, naked adult there? Yeah. I hope so. Here's to hoping, Jenny. Yeah, you can't have nick i never i actually never
Starting point is 00:54:46 thought about how kids you can't send kids to like nudist school do you think they have night school for the adults and that's naked how big how big does this go yeah i don't know all the way to the top i have some concerns about the ecosystem there. Yeah. Jack, would you do it? No. Okay. Actually, now that you mentioned that no kids allowed, you know, I could just.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Oh, you do notoriously hate your own children. So that is something to think about. Also, what if you get cold and you want to put on a jacket? I'm cold all the time. Like, you know, I need to put on my clothes. Well, fortunately, it's in the tropical climes of Toronto. Yeah, I was like, isn't that one of the coldest places? I think so.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I think it's up there. Yeah. So I don't know. It's just wild. I think it's a testament to, you know, late stage capitalism and how things are bad that 24000 people have inquired for the property since it was listed on September 1st. Leave it to me to ask the scientific questions. Yeah, there you go. All right. Let's talk Santa Claus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 All right. Let's talk Santa Claus. Yeah. Because it is that time of the year where people start complaining about how early people are talking about Christmas. So vaccines for kids are starting to roll out. There was a big announcement last week that they were starting to do the planning and that kids could start signing up, which by the time you hear this, the internet will probably be flooded with like anti-vax propaganda. I know a lot of parents who are not generally anti-vax, who are like never my child who has already had to get vaccinated. So I don't know why i'm drawing the line here but yeah i don't know it seems like this is going to be a real shit show but uh red room jam is predicting that santa is going to be a big part of the story because that guy you never know where he's gonna fall they'll be santa's coming out on both sides right wow this guy's a real groundhog coming out with this prediction. November. I mean, once you have a crystal ball, this is incredible. So Santa was the focus of one of the earliest vaccine related controversies last year.
Starting point is 00:57:18 But this speaking of that Adam Sandler video that you want to make, Jamie. This was at a time when the right was rabidly pro-vaccine, but it was before anybody had invented one. So they're for it. They're for vaccines as long as they're unsafe and untested. But it was because the Trump administration was pushing to have a vaccine ready before the election, science be damned. And his plan involved vaccinating mall Santas
Starting point is 00:57:47 before everyone else and in turn having them promote the vaccine to kids that sit on their laps. So, you know. But via whispering? Yeah. Don't tell your mom, kid,
Starting point is 00:57:58 but I could hook you up with a vax. I got some needles. Zooey Deschanel-Elf has elf has yeah has a bunch of needles with her like yeah flawed plan he's pointing out that like fauci claimed in november that santa was immune to covid but then also claimed that he personally traveled to the north pole and vaccinated santa so i just feel like we need to give Fauci like a year off. He feels like someone who's been awake for 48 hours in a row and is just
Starting point is 00:58:30 like punchy and is just you know, throwing stuff out there. That man has been through a lot. I think of him as like always shaking a little bit. Right. But yeah, so Santa has been to hospitals to promote the vaccine in finland
Starting point is 00:58:50 along with finnish heavy metal eurovision champ lordy who i was not aware of before this story but uh looks like home improvements richard karn is like halfway turning into a zombie and also like mixed with gene simmons but then there's there's also the issue of whether mall santa claus will be vaccinated or not this year which the answer seems to be yes of course they fucking have to be vaccinated because most children are going to be unvaccinated but there's already one one santa who in october was like they fired me for not being vaccinated his his excuse uh santa ron which is what he got told news for jacks yes jacksonville florida against all odds that he doesn't want the covid vaccine because he has had bad reaction to shots in the past. Just shots across the board
Starting point is 00:59:47 have caused acute ouchies whenever applied to him. But yeah, I don't know. It feels like this is definitely going to happen. Yeah. I mean, as a lover of Santa media, I do feel that there is a responsibility of Santa culture to kind of lead the conversation here. And, you know, it's something I take very seriously. And I have to imagine the whole Santa community does. Unvacked Santas, that is like, of course, that shouldn't be allowed. And of course, it's like going to happen it kind of reminds me of the the mall santa from nathan for you where he had like every mall santa has a dark secret you know like some sometimes it's going to be that they're unvaccinated i personally i don't know jack do you do you bring
Starting point is 01:00:36 your kids to to see santa at the mall are you going to skip every day every day wow that's awesome no i think we'll skip it this year we skipped it last year we managed to skip it? Every day. Every day? Wow, that's awesome. No, I think we'll skip it this year. We skipped it last year. We managed to skip it last year. Yeah, Santa's at the mall really have had a janking career probably except in the red states. Yeah. It does suck for the people who's like that's their entire identity.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I feel for y'all, but like, I don't feel for you if you're not willing to get vaccinated in order to keep that identity. Yeah. All right. Let's talk. Have you guys seen Eternals? No. Have you? No.
Starting point is 01:01:21 No. What's Eternals? Is that some nerd shit? Yeah, it's nerd shit that's coming out. It came out last weekend. I knew it. Yeah, I fucking knew it, dog. Ugh, nerds.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So this is the latest Marvel movie to be groundbreaking in that Brian Tyree Henry is playing the first openly gay superhero in a Marvel movie and critics are hailing the inclusive storyline as the bare minimum. And yeah, I don't know. The last time Marvel like boasted about lgbtq plus representation uh turned out to be a 10 second scene in endgame in which uh one of the directors uh who isn't gay in real life mourns his dead partner in a support group because the filmmaker claimed that representation is really important which became like a pr nightmare so in addition to like just being a thing that they're trying to get credit for and like without really thinking about it or doing anything about it,
Starting point is 01:02:31 early reviews are mentioning a scene in which Fastos, who is the superhero in question, stands quote solemnly in the wreckage of Hiroshima and screams, what have I done? Wow. Pathos. Yeah. Like he's not literally responsible for the use of a nuclear weapon, but because Fastos is essentially the patron god of technology, he like feels responsible for doing it. but i don't know it just feels like this is what happens when you're like trying to like tie in the fucking holocaust or the use of like a nuclear weapon to kill hundreds of thousands of people in a like split second like as a plot point yeah i don't i don't know i mean nothing
Starting point is 01:03:26 against whatever i i always get like filet-o-fished in comments when i'm like i just i i have i have no interest in uh marvel trying to comment on the real world i like to watch people fly around i like to watch people kiss i. I like to watch people kiss. I like when the school bus is pulled off of the edge of the bridge. I'm not looking for commentary. And when I hear that
Starting point is 01:03:56 there's commentary in a Marvel movie, usually I don't go. Right. I mean... Shout out to Chloe Zhao, though. Good for her for directing a huge-ass movie. That's cool. Yeah. Getting a huge payday.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah. Good for her. I saw her at a restaurant recently. It was cool. What? That is cool. Spending that Eternals money? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah. Greta said hi to her after on her way out, like, in a classy way. But I would have never. She goes, I love love you as we were walking by i love you sign this knife for me it wasn't like it was like a classy hello in that she didn't stop it was moving you know when you're moving it's okay because you're not expecting them to spend time with you right yeah yeah that is that is the way to do it yeah i think like it's okay to have like tie-ins to history like in hocus pocus i don't know if you guys are fans of that movie but oh please it's my number one jack so it good. That was a good movie because it opens with
Starting point is 01:05:05 the Salem witch trials in which the women being murdered are actual witches. And so the Puritans were right and every Puritanical thing in American culture is founded. They weren't chill, but they were right.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yes, thank you. Yeah, I don't know. Inserting magic and technology. Maybe in that that scenario wasn't about puritanical values it was like literally because they were eating the children in the town i don't know yeah i mean it's certainly a revisionist look at the salem witch trials and that's why art is so important. Right. Yeah. I don't know. But, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:49 JM also points out, like, Raiders of the Lost Ark does this in a way that doesn't really fuck me up. Like, I think it's, like, cool when you're melting Nazis. Like, that's,
Starting point is 01:06:00 maybe that should be just, like, the rule. If you're getting to melt Nazis, I'm good. But otherwise. Historical commentary, I feel like, is more fun when it's not like, especially like in this genre, in like action and superheroes and shit like that. When it's more cathartic versus punishing and reminding you about a large loss of life. Right. Yeah, yeah. loss of life. Melting the Nazis is great because it's just like it's scratching the
Starting point is 01:06:26 itch of like wouldn't it be so cool to melt a Nazi, to melt an evil person versus like so many innocent people died. Doesn't that make you want to keep watching this movie that I feel like just looking at the trailer I'm like this is three hours long. I'm not going.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Movies are too long. I agree. We as a society need to come together three hours long. I'm not going. Movies are too long. I agree. We as a society need to come together on that point. I can't do that. Just, you know, what are we? Every movie is a fucking Irishman now. Jesus Christ. I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I barely have enough attention span to read two pages. You know? Yeah. I'm going to see Titane again. That pages. I'm going to see Titane again. That's how I'm going to see Eternals, is just see Titane a second time. What is Titane? I don't know if I'm saying it right because it's a French word,
Starting point is 01:07:16 but it's the movie where the lady has sex with a car and gets pregnant with a car and gives birth to a car. What? Is it good? I haven't heard about that. It is like, like i mean it's i i'm very inclined to like movies like that but it's incredibly good it's by this french director yeah her name is julia ducarneau she made a really good movie about like teen girl cannibalism a couple years ago too like she just does the wildest stuff and does it all
Starting point is 01:07:45 the way yeah cool she has sex with a car wow my dream i know you didn't even i was like wow i didn't even realize that that's how you could have sex with i mean the way she has sex with the car i wasn't expecting it i was expecting something very different yeah i don't even know how to picture it huh i thought you were mispronouncing titanic i was like is that like a classy way to pronounce yeah with your pinky up yeah it's like tartine except having sex with cars yes except having sex with a car and having a car baby yeah that part seems less fun but i am interested yeah i mean people who like the like so the movie's based on the eternals is based on the classic comic series and all those tweets about jacked camille nanjiani oh that's the one he's in? Yeah. Yeah, this is the one. This is clearly a topic for me and Blair. We know so much.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I don't know shit about it either. I don't know the comics. I was really excited about the director. And then I saw the trailer and it's all like laser shit. And I've never been into people who shoot lasers out of their hands that i find it somewhat boring yeah marvel was like let's get this woman with so much taste and just laser that shit up and then just keep it straight marvel yeah that's yeah that's what drives me like up a wall about it is like it would be really cool to give chloe xiao something
Starting point is 01:09:23 like that budget to do whatever she wanted or like the same for like taika waititi of like here's 300 million dollars what or probably more like what will you do instead of like the same superhero movie that you feel like i mean and i haven't seen it so maybe it is like very very different and she has her own fingerprints like all over it. But it all kind of feels like this movie could be made by anybody. Why are you wasting this talented person's time? But they don't want that.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They don't want something new. They want to keep Marvel happy the way it is. Yeah. She does cast it with mostly people who live in bands in the america in the american west signature yeah yeah so all right well guys blair it's been such a pleasure having you on tdz as always where can people find you and follow you oh my god it was so good to see you guys really it was really the highlight of my week you know it's like guys you can find me at blair socky b-l-a-i-r-s-o-c-c-i on twitter and instagram
Starting point is 01:10:34 all my shows are on there and i just want to tell you guys i have a show at dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles on November 18th, called Dero and Wilson. The first one in two years. It's a big deal coming back. And so I hope you guys will come out and you can get tickets in my Instagram, Twitter bio, or DynastyTypewriter.com. Nice. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media
Starting point is 01:11:04 you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah, I really laughed at this. I'm sure people say his tweets all the time. Caleb Heron, a sweetie, dear friend of mine. But he said, every time I go look at the other tweets of a weird dude on here telling me I'm not funny, it's like 600 tweets across seven years that are all some variation of if the baltimore ravens give up one more rushing yard i'm sincerely going to kill myself that is the best he's so funny the people who have the strongest opinions on comedy only tweet very basic takes about sports and movies.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I don't know. The Conebrons are pretty good. Jamie, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram. Jamie Loftus Help on Twitter. Jamie Cry Superstar on Instagram. Blair and I, I just learned, have dueling shows in Los Angeles on November 18th.
Starting point is 01:12:12 But mine's going to be happening a bunch of times, so go to Blair's show. But I'm starting to workshop. You know, I don't know if it's good yet. And your show is definitely really good. But I'm starting to workshop a new show called Mrs. Joseph Chestnut America USA at the Elysian in LA. Oh, my God. I have to see that. Where I play Joey Chestnut's wife that doesn't exist.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yes. Oh, my God. That's my dream. I'm going to be your number one fan. Yes. That is fucking brilliant. She really loves him so much, but it's not working. So yeah, that's
Starting point is 01:12:51 at the Elysian on the 18th. And then listen to the Bechdel cast or Act cast or whatever you want. It's not my business. None of my business. And then, oh, I wanted to shout out, did you guys ever talk about how john hinkley started a twitter yeah we haven't talked about that but i that's something that i
Starting point is 01:13:11 was aware of and didn't bother looking into so please tell me he tried to kill ronald reagan so he tried to kill ronald reagan so i'm kind of like it's all good by me yeah so he started a twitter and followed no one and tweeted three times and then i think he's done now but i'll shout out his most popular tweet from november 4th from john hinkley i'm putting a band together i was thinking i could perform solo but it's better if i have a small band behind me on stage check out my latest on youtube don't be cruel that's the name of the song don't forget forget, I have 14 original songs on Spotify and other streaming sites. I just want to shout out the long game he's playing.
Starting point is 01:13:52 And I hope that Jodie Foster feels okay about his music career. Seems like he's doing okay. Seems like he's doing well. Right, because he shot Reagan for Jodie Foster. Yeah. Yeah, he's just acting like so nonchalant and cool about it. At the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:14:09 he shot Reagan. You know? Yeah. Wee-oo, wee-oo, they're coming for me. Some tweets I've been enjoying. D Dolphin Emoji N tweeted, police takes my mugshot.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Me, send me that. And Luke at Low low brow tweeted chris pratt won't see your mean jokes but one of your friends who is voiced by chris pratt will you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the
Starting point is 01:14:53 information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. And without Miles Hill, Super Producer Ana Hosnier is giving us our song recommendation today, and she is joy and without miles he'll he'll sir on a hose knee a is giving us our song recommendation today and she is
Starting point is 01:15:09 recommending Zach Fox's Fafo F A F O so we're going to be linking off to that in the but on his book playing that album for us it's very funny and very the beats are really fucking good I love listening to his music all right
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