The Daily Zeitgeist - Masc Off, EXOTIC Groceries 7.22.20

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

In episode 677, Miles and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Unpopular and This Day In History Class host Yves Jeffcoat to discuss Ted Yoho accosting Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, the men's rights activist murdering a federal judge's son, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the McCloskey's facing gun charges, Trader Joe's changing it's branding, and more!FOOTNOTES: Ocasio-Cortez accosted by GOP lawmaker over remarks: 'That kind of confrontation hasn't ever happened to me' Lawyer Roy Den Hollander posted chilling remarks before murder at judge’s house Men's Rights Activist Lawyer Moves From Suing 'Ladies Nights' To Murder Ginsburg says she's undergoing chemotherapy due to liver cancer Missouri governor’s comments on coronavirus, McCloskeys raise eyebrows St. Louis couple who waved guns at protesters face charges Trader Joe’s to Change Branding Criticized as Racist Because It ‘Exoticizes Other Cultures’ WATCH: Daringer - Afet Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Actually, I'm all mixed up. It's season 143. In one moment, the teacher warned me about you, Ms. Loftus. I will get to you in one second. First, I want to welcome to this class. I'm going to write on the chalkboard. Season 143, episode three of The Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

And it's the podcast where we take a deep dive, sometimes maybe too deep, into America's nasty shared consciousness to say off the rip, it's fuck the Koch brothers, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Limzaugh, whatever, Limzoff, Limsey, JK Rowling, anybody can get it if you're not here for inclusion and diversity

and you don't have time. If you're still in after that, then you're going to like the show. If not, you know, maybe turn the podcast off. It's free. So don't do that to yourself. It is Wednesday, July 22nd, 2020. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Pierre Emmerich Obama Grang, a.k.a.

Thierry Enouid, a.k.a. Lee Splipson, a.k.a. Thomas Rozaitzky, a.k.a. Stashly Cole, a.k.a. Tuscany Sansom. Now, some of you probably don't know what the hell that was, but that was a lot of North London legends right there. And thank you to Hungry Hungry Hippolytus at ProfessorXXL for those, you know, those Arsenal-inspired AKAs honoring the FA Cup run because we are in the final.

But I digress enough about my favorite team and aren't my favorite co-host i know i'll bring it back to bruin's talk in a second there i well allow me to reintroduce you as my recurring co-host uh and just overall legend in the game, please welcome Miss Jamie Loftus. We are young. Isolate, isolate, we stand. Six feet apart, wash our hands. Loftus of Battlefield. That's from At Water Chestnut. Great song.

Love Pat Benatar. Shout out to Myron Grombacher, the drummer of Pat Benatar. A real mom haircut legend, Pat Benatar. Yeah. I think she just, like a lot of those 80s people who like, they just get the huge check. They're like, I will now live in Hawaii forever and I don't want to talk to anybody. And I don't need anything except to live with this ocean view. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.

Thanks for coming by. You know, these substitute gigs are not easy for me all the time. So I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm here to make things more disorganized and harder. Well, please help me introduce and welcome our first time guest. She is actually part of the iHeart family, but a first time on this show. She's a writer. She's a podcaster, host, pretty

much you name it. She can do it. Please welcome Eve's Jeff Coat. Hey, y'all. I'm so happy to be here. And I really feel like I cannot follow that introduction, Jamie, but I'm here and that's how it's got to be. Got any AKAs, Eve? I don't have any AKAs. I feel like I should be christened here. I mean, what better place to be honored with AKAs? I don't have any of my own. I guess Yves Saint Laurent, but that's just not much of an AKA. It's just a pretty much one-to-one. Well, we're going to get to know you even better. But first, we got to tell our listeners what's going on.

I'm just going to check in. You know, when checking around with like white supremacy, need to check in with To know, we're checking around with like white supremacy. Need to check in with toxic masculinity, too, because boy, oh boy, it's going down right now. We're also going to take a look at what's going on in Missouri, because I don't know if you saw that couple who was pulling guns on peaceful protesters. They've been charged with a crime and we'll see what happens to them. Spoiler alert, nothing. They've been charged with a crime, and we'll see what happens to them. Spoiler alert, nothing.

And we'll also check in with Trader Joe's because they're under some stress right now. People have been catching on to the whimsical ethnic food iterations of Trader Joe's on labeling. They're like, okay, so now that we're putting white supremacy under microscope, can we also talk about Trader Jose's and all this other shit? So we'll get into that. And also, shit about Trader Joe's, I did not even know. But first, before we do any of that, Eves, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay, so this is something that's been top of mind for me lately. And I've been doing a little bit of research into exercise-induced urticaria. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly, urticaria.

It's basically what I gather from it is that it's allergy to exercise. There's this thing, this really strange thing that happens to me anytime I get back into running. And the background, well, I say get back into running as if I actually like to run and I actually do it regularly. I don't, but anytime that I do, anytime that I do run, I get this like really, really, really crazy itch that like doesn't go away that I kind of have to train out of and run for a couple of days. And so it's been super, super annoying. And I, I would have to take an antihistamine anytime. I took even like two weeks off of running and yeah. Yeah. And that would, yeah, that would get rid of it completely.

It would be like a pop of antihistamine about 30 minutes before run and then go out and run. And usually I like to run tracks because I don't I I like like I said, I don't like to run. And like it just freaks me out to run anywhere else. And so like after about 800, I was like good to go on the itches and it would be unbearable. And that's been something I've been dealing with for a while. So I realized like how much I've been thinking about it and like how much it was in my google search history recently because it's something that I refuse to see a doctor about I'm like no I'm better than this like I can do it on my own I'm fine I can run through it if I run through it I'm a better person like I don't know that's that yeah but it's just super annoying and it's um

I've never heard of this before. I mean, can you describe this? Just the second you said it, I'm like, this is very novel for me. But like, is it an isolated part of your body that begins or you have like a full body itchiness? So I have to say that I'm also self-diagnosing. Like I said, I haven't talked to anybody official about it. But from what I gathered from my very accurate Google searches, it's usually in my legs and I'll feel it in my core as well. But it'll feel like a million fire ants are just inside of me and I can't scratch it away. Yeah, I can't scratch it away.

And I realized, well, I'm linking in my head. That's fine. That's what we do here. This is not a medical podcast or an actual, no one's a professional here. It's a second rate rant sesh. Yes, skip the ads. Skip the ads. Right.

So I also like my nose runs like crazy anytime I'm doing any sort of cardio. Like when I would go to high intensity interval training classes, I would always be the one running out of the classroom to the bathroom to blow my nose and was like, what, what's going on with me? Like nobody else is doing this. Um, obviously that was in the before times. I'm not going to, I'm not going to any group exercise classes right now, but yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you can do that H I I T on, on phones. Now I've been, uh, I, the first time I did it was on an app and that was, that was an intensity I was not ready for. I should first time i did it was on an app and that was that was an intensity i was not uh ready for i should have the but it was written there high intensity i don't know why i thought yeah it'd be intensive you're just high doing it i didn't know what age i like i didn't

know what that was until quarantine and then now there's all these ripped youtubers screaming at me every night wait so you just you just put it on and just go to sleep. You don't actually, you're like, I don't know. And they just, I do the, I do the exercise, but it's like, yeah, it's like this series of YouTuber that I watch. Well, sometimes they'll like throw it in, in like, Oh wow. And so they're like, we're going to switch to like H I T T. And I was like, I don't know what that is.

And then they're like, we're going to kill you. H-I-T-T. And I was like, I don't know what that is. And then they're like, we're going to kill you. Yeah. They're like, ready to fucking, ready for the ladder. And you're like, the what? I've leveled up from Jane Fonda and now I'm into some scary shit. That's what I was saying. Because you've definitely, you've marched through the kingdom of Fonda aerobics. And now you're saying like, is this your queen?

Is this all you have to offer me? My world has evolved past a need for the Jane Fonda tape. There's more out there. It is a little weird to be yelled at and know that that person doesn't have the actual feedback of you being more motivated. It's like, yeah, you're yelling at me. I feel really encouraged,

but there's no way you can receive that right now. And it's kind of weird on your end. Yeah, well uh i mean this is my question to you uh jamie does this ever end with you doing crossfit i feel like that is a step too far but i don't know at this point i wouldn't rule anything out there i feel like sunny would neg you into doing crossfit your dog i'll i'll recommend someone just because i was embarrassed to be watching fitness youtube but then i found out that uh frequent guest sarah june uses the same fitness youtuber as me uh her name is chloe ting

and she's so nice and is that the person they asked if there's a robot oh maybe did i see an article today that's like is chloe ting a robot why would they say that about her whatever we can we're getting we're getting too caught up in fitness youtube yes it is good whoa is chloe ting a robot and other facts about youtube's fit she's not a robot she seems really nice she's a robot we have i gotta call isaac asimov stat uh e, what is something that you think is underrated? So I had to think really hard about this, but I think that saying I don't know is underrated. This is big. This has been a new trend yet. Yeah, yeah, I think it is. And obviously, it's really true that there is a world of info

like at our availability that we have immediate access to. Like, that's really true that there is a world of info like at our availability that we have immediate access to. Like, that's definitely true. Google is a click away. Like, we have all of that at our hands. And I feel very fortunate, you know, to be able to look up whatever I want to, including exercise induced urticaria to figure that out. But I think that when, you know, it's definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed on something, like being able to say, I don't know, it's just, I don't know. I mean, it feels kind of freeing in a way where it's like, I do, I would say that I feel a lot

of the time, the pressure to know everything, because I know that I do have all of that information at my fingertips. But I also think in a larger way, in a scope, just saying, I don't know, is kind of freeing because there's so much that there is uncertainty around right now when it comes to the future. Like, and I think about that specifically around abolition. Like we have, we have a lot of ideas about what we want to work, how we want it to work, the kind of future that we want to build and the kind of world that we want to see. But I think that there is something very valuable in being able to say, I don't know, around, I have no fucking idea if those ideas are going to work. I have no idea how long they'll take to work. I have like, I have no idea of what I'm saying right now is the right thing. If it's

the wrong thing, if you want to put things in the binary like that. But I think that there's a way in which, yeah, saying I don't know around specific issues right now is so important because there's so many people fucking talking who don't need to be. And then there's so many people's voices who need to be heard that people aren't listening to. And yeah, like making sure that those voices are uplifted is important and saying, I don't know.

But it's also envisioning is, is being able to envision and being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as black people, I, and if I can speak for the collective, we are so risk averse for so many important reasons. You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive. But I think that saying, I don't know, it's like, you know, we can open ourselves up to risk and we can open ourselves up to uncertainty. And that's so that like that's OK. That can be OK. And we can tell ourselves that that's OK.

Because right now we have a lot of information that we do know that we don't want. And in a way, there is comfort in saying like, well, I know how this system is operating already. All that data has been there centuries worth of data. this system is operating already. All that data has been there. There's centuries worth of data. And on top of it, to your point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice, this has been a field of academia for decades. And there have been many people putting their life's work into theorizing these things and investigating them and trying to figure out what is a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And but then I've said, I think I said this very earlier on, that's where there's another layer of racism that this form of academia runs into another like form of gatekeeping

about sort of like, what are these black and brown people are going to tell me about how justice is? And there's things get held up and we don't and that message doesn't reach the people it needs to at you know i think at the moment they need it and now i think with a lot of this renewed enthusiasm or new enthusiasm from new people who are joining this movement uh yeah it really is important to say hey you don't have to come in no one's asking you to come in here a fully formed ally who knows every dimension of oppression and how to dismantle it.

The first thing is that you show your enthusiasm for it, and then you're all open. You are open to hearing things, and you are open to learning new things, just like everybody else is, because I think the way we get to where we are is at a certain point, motherfuckers go, oh, I already know everything, so I don't need to keep, I know what's best. I will keep going down this path of just funding the police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And, you know, no support for social safety nets,

et cetera. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And I think that we often operate in the way where we say we don't know so easily. Like we, we care a lot about science and about the,

the, the parameters that happen around science and know that it is a thing that is infinitely changing. And we know that that's the foundation of science is something that we'll never know everything. And the reason that we have science and that we have experimentation and that we have continuous learning is because we know we don't know everything. Yeah. And like just applying that to this. What a thought. What? What? I already know everything, Eves. Can't tell me anything new. I already heard everything.

I've already seen every episode of Law & Order. This conversation is over. Yeah. Done and done. I think what's also interesting too is, you know, smart people, I think actually have the hardest time saying they don't know anything. Especially if your self-perception is like, oh, people come to me for information or I've been told I'm sharp or whatever. I find that that is a thing. Even for me, I've found through years of therapy being able to be able to say, yeah, I don't know that.

I know for me personally, as a child, trying to know everything or get good grades like started a habit of like trying to know everything right but it didn't give me to the healthy place of like actually the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom which is to then put your ego in the fucking trash and say bring me all of the information so i could just blow my mind open yeah i feel like sorry go ahead oh no i was just gonna say yeah i i agree with you Miles like I want to say that I'm totally implicated in that as well and thinking like I'm a black woman I know about blackness and like you know my experience is mine and really getting caught up in my singular perspective and like really having to unlearn and learn things in terms of like okay I'm saying from my specific worldview a trans person's life a black life is nothing like my black life is and a person who is like from a different part of georgia like even if it's that small um than i am because i grew up

in the suburbs of atlanta like their life is going to be very different than mine even if they're a black woman as well and just like snapping myself out of that yeah yeah i've i've felt that like i and i i wonder if it is connected to like how we are programmed to learn in america where i i think that there are times where if you don't know something and someone tells you like that's not right or like i don't think you understand what is being said here that there is like a tendency to take that very like personally and be like what i don't know something you know it's like there is a tendency to take it personally i've felt that in uh in the past as well and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if someone tells you that you don't like first of all if you're not able to say you don't know something

and you get it wrong like you have to not make it this like battle of the ego to just say oh okay i'm listening um which a lot of people struggle with for sure i mean yeah that's just the i think that's the other thing too is that it's a much it's a lot harder actually to say you don't know but it's actually the best thing you can do. I think, you know, that actually is a demonstration of higher aptitude because you can learn anything the second someone tells it to you, but it's hard to put that shit aside and say,

I don't know what you were talking about. Would you mind telling me about that? I think it can be, you know, depending on how you look at yourself, a difficult thing, especially when it comes to politics and people's identities wrapped up. Oh, boy. Yeah.

Okay. Moving on. What is something that you think is overrated, Eve? So something that I think is overrated is DIY anything, like do it yourself. I just moved and like there were various things to do like when I moved moved into my new place and I was like, I can do everything. And this is coming from a place I can probably say that I've kind of gotten out of this. But like often growing up, I didn't want to ask anybody for help. And I still struggle with that often.

And I'm like, I can build this shed on my own. I know what I'm doing. This isn't going to fall apart in the rain. Right. Cut to. Yeah, like I know how to do all this. Like I'm going to paint the whole house. And I'm like, girl, you, you, first of all,

you don't have to do everything. Like there's, there's no way you can do everything. And I think the struggle that I have with it is like, I know that most of the time, but I also really enjoy making things. And so there's this back and forth between if I DIY it, I'll have so much fun. Like I'll be crafting again and I'll prove to myself that I actually have leisure time and I'm not always about productivity and work and like that type of thing. Are you able to relax, Yves?

Yes. Oh, actually. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I'm very- Because the way you were sort of like going through your mental pathway, being like, and I am able to do leisure activities. I was like, oh, wait, okay. So how do you get down?

How do you relax, Yves? Yeah, I do. I will say it's very intentional. That's something that I like, I've learned a lot through a lot of my yoga teachers, honestly, how important rest is just following a lot of people who I, you know, I like what they're doing, like what they're saying about when it comes to rest and sleeping and knowing that I can't be here on this earth to do things for people if I don't relax. So I have to be really hard and soft at the same time on myself when it comes to relaxing. So I think like it doesn't even have to be super big. Like I love naps. So I'm like, I'm good for a nap. Nobody can tell me that I can't nap. I'm going to do it. So that happens. And then I what else do I do to relax? I like, I like to sit in silence.

I meditate to relax. I literally use the portal app. No, it's like, it's like a plugging. I'm always, I can't look when I know when I meet somebody who's a creature of solitude, it's an app.

That's like these, like, uh, I think like Emmy winning sound art, like recordist got these soundscapes from like a rainforest or like a a plane in the UK or a mountain in the Alps or whatever. And it's just ambient noise, which I like to meditate with because it helps put me in the zone. Yeah, this is not Spawn. It is simply Spawn.

I know. This is the saddest cry for them to do some ad spend on the show. But I'm like, I'm just preaching the gospel of Portal. But yeah, the DIY thing, I think it's hard. I started off thinking I could do everything. And after a few attempts at some sort of complex electrical work, I was like, no, this is not happening. I will pay somebody to to yeah

it's not worth burning my house down or you know uh injuring myself exactly yes something i've come to terms with on diy stuff because i also love to make stuff and i love the like i could do a thing like that like stubborn pride that i have about some stuff but then it's it ends up you even if i can do it correctly which often i just flat out can't it takes so much time and then you're like i've lost days of my life to not successfully making what this 12 year old on youtube did in 45 seconds so yeah but that was sped up though you do realize that that video was like 100 times. Wait, so she didn't grow all that corn in 13 seconds? I don't know.

I've been getting into Quilt YouTube, and they make a lot of shit look easy that is. Oh, don't get too deep into QuiltTube. And what is, finally, Eves, what is a myth? What is something that people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? So I don't know if this is an overall myth, but it's something that it's a sentiment that I've been seeing a lot lately on the Internet that's been floating around. And that's that black women shouldn't be told or don't need to be told that we're strong. be told or don't need to be told that we're strong. And I definitely understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place where so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who are telling us that like we don't experience pain. And that's in a very established way. You know,

when that comes to the medical industry, just always saying that, and I know so many of us have had personal experiences, but saying that we don't experience pain, that we're strong, that we're tough, that we can make it through this, that we can make it through that. There's this superhuman stereotype that we can do all of that. And I think that, yes, in that manner, our oppressors don't need to tell us that we're strong because if we take it contextually, we know their intention behind that. And we know that so long what public health has meant for black women and black people in general is death, like public health equal death when it came to black people. So I think, yes, all of that is true. I think, yes, all of that is true. And I just wanted to preface it with that because obviously that's the case. And I also can't speak for any one specific Black woman wanting or not wanting to be told that she's strong because that's her preference a way, telling Black women that are saying that we shouldn't be told that we're strong is kind of affirming

the idea that we are by nature strong. Like it's affirming the oppressor's language and saying that we should assume we're strong. But I often need affirmation and confirmation from other Black women to tell me that I am strong because sometimes I don't feel like I am. And sometimes I need somebody to tell me that I am. And that feels really good when it's coming from other Black women and from other Black women

who I know that I love specifically and close to specifically. And I think that there are like caveats to the statement, like black women shouldn't be told they're strong. Well, yes. And it's like a both and type of situation. There's some astras there. I think everything is really like loaded like that too. I've had discussions with some like professors who, you know, are like in sociology and a lot of black history. And I've even heard from them just sort of like the nature of the kneeling and how that is even viewed like from a historical context, problematic to see that as like kneeling in front of the

oppressor as a form of protest has all of this historical context behind it of the subordinate servant uh and lowering themselves to the master and things like that so at every turn right there's all everything there's every there's so many dimensions to the ways that we can either protest or find strength in our existence but there's always this other historical backdrop to it that i think everyone we always have to be conscious of because there's all these roots like to the point of you know this fallacy or this like uh medically perpetuated myth that like yeah black women we prescribe less painkillers um that that is all going back to this idea of you know uh the slavery and the idea that these black bodies are used to create revenue

and are efficient at doing that and that continues so yeah i think it's an important myth yeah um all right well let's take a quick break because that was a pretty heady over under and myth i appreciate that ives uh eve sorry i've just someone i went to high school with a different person um so thank you for that and we will come right back and talk about some news right after this. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

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And we are back. And it's time to check in with America's good friend, Toxic Masculinity. There are so many, many things happening at the moment. And just a few of the top stories are just sort of all kind of centered around this idea of this phenomenon of toxic masculinity. The first is about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. So, you know, AOC has been a very vocal member of Congress, if you haven't heard. And conflict with GOP House members is not something new for her or many vocal progressives in the House. But, you know, I think since white supremacy is trying to fight back, it's causing a lot of conservative Congress people and leaders across the nation to

get like really unnerved when people are like accurately describing white supremacy or forms of oppression that aren't tied to like, but they took our jobs rather than saying like, no, this is systemic racism or that, you know, poverty is actually the root cause of crime and that police actually isn't the answer to crime. Because if we look at crime for what it is, it's it's a lot of the crime we're talking about is because people have lost any sort of support system and are turning to crimes of desperation, etc. This apparently upset Congressman Ted Yoho from Florida to the point that he like pulled. point that he like pulled so alexandria ocasio-cortez she was leaving the capitol building and then this guy just confronts her like out in the open saying quote you are out of your freaking mind uh this was after her talking about poverty and unemployment is the spike for crime in new

york city not because we're you know we're not standing behind our police or whatever narrative there is to vilify people standing up for themselves and she said okay and then as it went on she just said you know what you're being rude and after they parted ways and he was going down the steps he said he he called her an fmb and then just kind of kept it moving uh she was saying like i'm she said this is new this this kind of like in your face confrontation is new because the way she put it was for the most part, a lot of the house members are able to put their partisan, you know, fighting appetite at the door

and keep that for the floor of the house. And then when they go out, it's not like, hey, you motherfucker, I'm going to fucking debate you right now. Screaming your face. So this is some new, new. It's like a new level of mask off. Like coming, like during official discussions also i thought it was pretty rich that yoho's office only first of all yoho like i'm just i just giggle every time i hear it because it's very pirate energy life for me um um so so uh captain yoho sent a but his response first of all he like the the i mean there are so

many bad elements to this story but the fact that after the fact he like like demonstrably did that um which i mean leaves aoc with yet another um thing to deal with and having to take time out of her day to speak to and clarify. But then Captain Yoho's office sent their response straight to the Daily Caller, which is just like, well, if you really need to make it clear that you're lying, make a statement to the Daily Caller. And he said that he did not call AOC any name at all and just flat out denied the entire thing.

It's just, it's not surprising, but it is like, it is a new level of mask off. I mean, toxic masculinity rule number one, never apologize to a woman for something you've said. I mean, that's straight out the playbook. No, release a statement to the Daily Caller saying that she's lying. Yeah, just the. Just the denial. It is, I don't know. I mean, like, there's, the responses seem more, like, fiery now. Because I think if you, for people who are able to look at systemic racism and white supremacy and say, yeah, that exists and that's here and that explains a lot of these things.

If some people are just turning the channel now and being like, that explains everything I've done. And it's not this entire worldview. I've been like, like ingesting this entire, my entire life. That's not real. There's this really intense backlash to it. But as I said, it's, it's, it's how it's the only way you can ensure the survival of something like white supremacy is to have its defenders like this who are going to get in someone's face and attempt to intimidate them because they're speaking truth to power. Yeah, I mean, if there is anything to be taken that is not completely negative out of this story because it is just horrible. because it is just horrible but the fact that he got that shaken up by her words to the point where he felt the need to react just straight up aggressively in public uh speaks a lot to i mean the fact that she you know there's a lot of value in what she's saying and how thoroughly she's challenging it it doesn't at all justify the backlash. But it's like if Captain Yoho feels that strongly where he cannot stop himself from saying aggressive language like that to her.

I mean, well, I mean, I think seeing the waning influence or like the sanctity of not criticizing law enforcement since that is waning. That is really, I think, upsetting to a certain brand of racist who sees the police as the good stewards and shepherds of racism who will intervene when called and do what they have to. And even like this week, like I was calling into a L.A. County Board of Supervisors meeting where, you know, there's been this proposal to amend the budget to shift money away from the sheriff's department you know they don't need 330 million more dollars that can actually be shifted into communities and it's interesting when you hear the people call in to give public comment who are opposed to it it's all through this lens of you know i'm concerned about my safety or what have you but really it's like i need my i need my attack dogs and if if those are gone, then who do I, how can I terrorize black and Brown people or people who are different than

me in, and using, you know, the, the, I guess the vagueness of law to, you know, enact that. So it's, it's, I think it's happening at every level as depending on how deep the reckoning is that any sort of body decides to engage in in terms of a reckoning with racism well he certainly made himself look like an absolute clown here uh yeah and you and you hate to see it you really do and okay and then so moving on to uh you know judge esther solace's husband was shot and her only son was murdered, uh,

a few days ago. And, you know, in the beginning, many people were like, what is going on? How did this, what,

what is going on? This federal judge had like a, like a hit basically at her home. Was it the Deutsche bank case that she's overseeing? Does it have, you know, people were like, does it have something to do with Epstein?

Uh, this, that, and the other. And then a picture began to emerge of this lawyer with a well-documented past of misogyny like a men's rights active like before the term was really out there this guy was out here using his legal degree to you know cape for misogyny um that this man was the suspect uh they found him a few hours later uh from dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

And they figured out this man actually had a case in front of her, but it was a lawsuit in which he was representing a woman and her daughter because they wanted to register for the selective service. And because they couldn't, they wanted to just basically say that it was unconstitutional because it barred women from registering and it was this very weird like lawsuit uh just because it like sort of fits in this his body of work um and this guy this this guy roy den hollander he's been like he's been sort of on the radar of like political commentators like legal commentators for a minute because for years he's been sort of on the radar of like political commentators like legal commentators for a minute because for years he's been doing these really like lame lawsuits like you know for people who have been like studying his history apparently things went south when he

like his he got divorced from his wife who he like felt like just got got with her got with him to get a green card. And then like that sort of was sort of like the inciting incident for him to go down this like legal March for men's rights. Like he sued Columbia university for that and accusing them of preaching quote, a religionist belief system known as feminism. And because they were using like, you know,

money from the federal government to do that he was like oh this is completely this is a total perversion of the separation of church and state uh he's sued bars for having ladies nights um this is just kind of the thing yeah but it i think what's like really sort of unnerving right is like it starts off with this sort of fringe uh character who's using the law to and you know just sort of making headlines with these ridiculous lawsuits but that gives way to sort of like this like this was before we were there terms like incel or mra or anything like that was really part of like the discourse or anything like that this was just more like this this guy is doing that um and now we're seeing it come play out to the point where he's uh you know allegedly committing these crimes

it's just very uh i don't know it's just a very dark yeah that's super dark it does sound like and i don't know if that's the the feeling that you got from from from learning about it but that kind of idea of whatever he went through, I think you said, with his wife being the inciting incident for everything that he did, does it seem like that's kind of a thing that they're trying to move accountability from his actual actions and linking it to that incident? No, I wouldn't say that that's like anything that the news has said in terms of trying to, like, this is just from like the body of articles I've read about him where like this is from years ago where someone was like doing a profile on him. And he himself was saying like this, like this was something that happened to him.

And I'm not and I don't and I don't see and I don't want to go down that road to like singularly attach it to this trauma or whatever. Got it. singularly attach it to this trauma or whatever but it's it he's definitely has this uh just a vendetta uh for anything that is related to like women exercising agency over their bodies or this idea that a business would accommodate a woman uh like like to and say like well the men should get that too and then like why isn't there men's you know like that's just sort of the i mean or even asserting themselves over his personal opinion seems like uh worthy of retaliation on his end like it's yeah this story is very very dark and and it it is i mean i would be interested in i i didn't know about this story i would be interested in learning more about you know it sounds like he's it's the sort of thing where you start by sort of testing the waters of like, OK, what can I accomplish legally to to, you know, further my beliefs and make it clear that I am not on the side of feminism.

It's a religion on and on. And then, you know, it does seem like Esther Sal solace is possibly a wall of like oh i can't get what i want accomplished in a legal way um yeah this is this is so sad yeah it's i think it just shows too like there are things that we start off with like certain fringe ideologies and things that it's easy to dismiss because on its face, it's like, it's so absurd. And it's like, kind of goes against everything, what most accepted discourses or the tone of society is right now. But it shows you that it goes from laughing at something to then turning into something very violent and dangerous because it can gain momentum. And I

think it's important that, you know, just being vigilant about these things, not necessarily this, uh, this specific person, but there are a lot of things that I, you know, uh, uh, ideologies that you see now that was easy five years ago to laugh out. And now we're seeing like, you know, QAnon, uh, followers of QAnon, uh, begin to make like, make headway into actually becoming members of Congress. And next, this has been something that's been going on the last week, but I just want to talk about Ruth Bader Ginsburg really quick. If you have any reason to vote in November, at the very least, you do it so this woman can hang up her robe and live out the rest of her days in peace this uh the supreme court justice man she has been hanging on uh now

she says she's been very strong and i believe that but i feel like someone at this point i think if there were any other administration she might be more open to retiring. But given the tone of how the Senate works and what this president's aims are, it's all about putting in more absolute just rubber stamps for whatever the conservatives want done in this country or want dismantled. So if anything were to happen to her, we all know that Mitch McConnell would be more than willing to fill this vacancy. And she last week, she went to the hospital for a possible infection that ended up being OK. But still, I mean, I just remember that, like every news thing I read, Twitter, anyone's like, oh, my God, R.B. Anytime they hear that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is in the hospital, it like it. People have a very visceral reaction to it, I think given that what has happened with when justice Kennedy retired,

uh, and then seeing that whole confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh and even Gorsuch before that, but it's just a very, very, uh, I think for people who have their head in the game in terms of looking how a lot of these legal cases end up at the Supreme court,

that this is something that isn't, uh, we can't, I guess not, it's not that we're taking it lightly but it does have it could have dire consequences uh if something awful were to happen yeah i rb i mean i it is never not baffling to me that you know the fact that it uh very like a figure like Ruth Bader Ginsburg remaining alive and healthy could possibly affect literally everyone in the country

as per the health and well-being of one elderly person. People's rights hang in the balance. That just doesn't seem like a good system. I'm kind of critical of like the cult of rbg there's a lot of good stuff written about it where i just you know like no you know making politicians uh like celebrities above reproach is never a good move but in this case it's i mean just speaking to her, her health and the fact that her health is connected to the well-being of the country, like it's just, it just reminds me of how flawed that system is that just like,

we shouldn't have a system where that's the case. Yeah. Yeah. And it just feels like a pile on. I mean, just emotionally, collectively, it's like, how much more can we take, you know, just thinking of it from a non-logical standpoint and a purely emotional one. It it's like, how much more can we take, you know, just thinking of it from a non logical standpoint, and a purely emotional one is just like, what this on top of everything else that's happening in 2020, I think is, it would seem almost unbearable. And having to think about that even potentially being a part of our future, I think, is just it's a huge toll. and i think yeah to your point jamie like that's why a lot of people who are trying to sort of find ways to amend this system we have are like we need terms like it can't just be lifetime appointments uh because then the balance

of power can be completely thrown off you get another conservative judge in there and it's fucking lights out uh effectively for a lot of progressive causes and issues. I mean like then it's not just like it, it's, it's every single thing. It could be from the water you drink to the people we like are welcoming into this country who are seeking asylum to the rights of trans people, to the,

to the systemic racism that's going on or, uh, like every single thing. And it just shows you how when the system is like that how easily it can be manipulated because conservatives can just play a game we'll be like well maybe ruth bader ginsburg has to retire or something and then we can strike and then install somebody and then the deck is completely stacked and lopsided for generations right Right. Yeah. I find it very ghoulish how like our entire country now has to like frantically be refreshing

their news feeds to see if like someone is sick or not. Like it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg should be allowed to retire. She is very old. So many. But but the consequences of that are so great that, of course, she's not going to. Yeah. The way the Supreme Court is set up is stupid. I don't like it.

Hot take. She she did want to tell people like, you know, when the next time she went into the hospital, it's the news came out that she was undergoing chemo, uh, for her liver cancer. As she had a statement that said, quote, my most recent scan on July 7th indicated significant reduction of the liver lesions and no new disease. I'm tolerating chemotherapy well, and I'm encouraged by the success of my current treatment. I will continue biweekly chemotherapy to keep my cancer at bay and, and am able to maintain an active daily routine. she's been treated for cancer five times um and it just feels like i a lot of responsibility to be put on somebody to say like i'm sure she's thinking well if i leave who are they going to put in and then what happens and

that's just it yeah and i feel guilty for for for wanting her, you know, to stay right for wanting to push through that. I'm like, damn, what kind of person am I to know that a person has been through something that is so, so taxing on your body and want them to continue using their body and all of their strength and energy to fight for an entire country? strength, and energy to fight for an entire country. It's like... It feels very weird to, yeah, to like be on your feed. Like this 87-year-old woman can't retire. Like, but she can't. That feels very American though. And she knows that.

Right, right. Is that the hero that I want to die on? I'm not sure. Right. No, like, yeah. I hope she's well like yeah yeah but again it's it's just show i remember when kennedy said he was gonna retire i almost like had a i was like like a wave washed over me i'm like oh my god now they get another supreme court pick

uh and that brought along with it uh another awful, awful public display of lack of morality or humanity. Um, so yes, it is, it is a very harrowing to be like just praying every day that this person can make it to the election, uh, and pass that. All right. Uh, let's, let's, uh, take another quick break and we'll come back to talk some other stuff after this. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours.

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with no trigger discipline pointing a handgun at unarmed peaceful protesters and her husband, Big Dog Mark, with his cool little khaki and pink polo number just brandishing an AR like it ain't nothing. It was a very, it was probably one of the more 2020 photos we had seen of this like frightened, like upper middle or upper class,

suburb white flight family just being like, oh my God, they're here. And sort of seeing like how it plays out in people's minds based on their media diet but we've heard their side of the story about why they had to do the brave thing to defend their castle because the pro the peaceful protesters breached the gates of their anti-poor fort or gated community and therefore was cause for concern and the brandishing of weapons uh so now uh it turns out that they have been charged with unlawful use of a weapon which is a felony but fear not uh because the governor of missouri

mike parsons essentially said oh yeah if if're convicted, I will probably in all likelihood pardon them. He's like, well, they look like my neighbors. So probably I'll just let them get away with it. I am so sick of hearing about these people. Yeah. Can we just like put them in a panic room and bury the panic room? Like, I'm just so sick of these people. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like this is one of those situations, too, Miles, like you were talking about earlier, how it starts off as something that just seems very, very jokey, jokey. And like, we got all these pictures and we got all these memes, but like, wait, hold on. They were pointing guns at people. And whenever you point a gun at someone, you're ready to, you're ready to kill them. Even when your finger isn't on the trigger. Yeah. I mean, if you are the responsible gun owner that you claim to be, you know, that pointing a gun at someone means death, period. Right.

And then seeing the, I mean, it's like, I understand that, like, I don't know, the memification of 2020, it was always going to happen. It, to an extent, makes sense. But to see the conversation, like, be making fun of this couple for not knowing how to hold their guns and then just kind of skipping over the fact that they were holding guns like it's like yeah yeah i think but that all depends on your level of engagement with the issue like if you are a cisgendered heterosexual white guy who likes guns and you've never known oppression you look at that image and you laugh because in your mind you would have been busting licking shots at these people because they better not be coming on my and i damn sure know how to use a gun that's why my criticism of this image is that they weren't doing enough or even if

i was responsible gunner my the thing that is offensive to me is the gun usage and that's what's interesting to see how everyone brings i think most people of sound conscience. Will go and say. Oh my goodness. These people are just pulling out the straps. Because these people are peacefully protesting. Against systemic racism. And your response is to pull out the strap. That must mean.

You are there to defend white supremacy. That's in my mind. That's what I see too. You also can see this fear in these people. Of whatever this fear of these people of whatever this fear of a black planet brown planet sort of mentality is of like it's the fourth quarter for us honey and we're not we're no longer the mvps is this really uh it's a 2020 ink blot yes the fact that they continue to perpetuate this idea like all of the protesters are the

ones who are trying to start the civil war when you are the ones with the guns in your hand and i'm pretty sure if a civil war happens is going to happen with arms and ammunition yeah and i mean even now like you look at the federal you know the fed police the dhs or ice troops that trump is sending into cities i mean how long till some racist people want to cosplay as those people and say, oh, well, these people don't have to identify themselves and they're disappearing people

and snatching them up off the street. What's stopping me from dressing up like them, even though I'm not law enforcement and acting the same shit because everything is so chaotic right now. It's just very, you see all the elements there for something awful, awful, awful awful to happen but it seems like every time like people who are the activists and the people in the streets are finding a way to not

take it there even though clearly the opposition is always sort of goading people into some kind of direct violent confrontation but again yes right right it's like we're always on this precipice yeah it is and it does feel like that now let's just check in uh with trader joe's uh because again you know i think anyone that has patronized a trader joe's knows that they like to fuck around with the names and be a real witty especially with the ethnic food. And it seems like those days are coming to an end again, because many people are trying to have a reckoning and saying, like, is whiteness the default for everything? Is that the baseline for everything? And if so, let's look at that and begin to examine that and deconstruct that.

So at Trader Joe's, you've probably seen names like Trader Ming's, Arabian Joe's, Trader Jose's, Trader Giotto's and Trader Joe's you've probably seen names like Trader Ming's, Arabian Joe's, Trader Jose's, Trader Giotto's, and Trader Joe's. Oh shout out to the Japanese half. You know like it's on there all kinds of yeah. You've never seen it? I haven't been to Trader Joe's. Wait wow what? I haven't been in a minute but oh yeah always yes. Like if it's like a habanero thing or it's like something like like Mexican food like an enchilada or something on the thing, it won't say Trader Joe's, it'll say Trader Jose's. And like, wink. And I think there's a huge petition going around being like, people need to sign up against this bullshit because it's so fucking disconnected from the times right now. And also in general, it's written from the point of view where whiteness is the default. So if whiteness is the default, then this thing that is a habanero sauce now has to be Trader Jose's or if it's gyoza or potstickers now is Trader Joe's son.

I think like lame ass marketing shit that was like left over from the 90s when like your entire boardroom is just like white marketing people who aren't going to take a second to be like, shoot, is that is that the best thing? Yeah. So that's and wasn't this this petition to was also started by a teenager? Oh, yeah. Oh, I had no idea i believe i was pretty excited for both for the person who started the petition and the fact that it accomplished something relatively quickly but it was yeah it was uh i i believe it was a teenager who created an online uh petition and it got a huge response and then trader joe's kind of responded relatively swiftly the fact that this existed in the first place is so, yikes. It does kind of feel like, well, we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those mentally kids.

Because there's a part of me that wonders, why spend the time on creating all this different kind of marketing in the first place where you could just stay standard like was it actually helpful to them in terms of marketing in any way i mean i know there's never a need for justification of white supremacy and it it perpetuates itself for no reason but it's that exotification of whiteness right in a very cutesy way too that is just like in such bad taste it's the same way like you know white people will get together and like laugh and you know be like oh arigato and just like about it you know having their sushi dinner or some shit that's the same mentality that's like you know be really fun is if we don't call him trader joe and i don't know if you remember the karate kid but that japanese guy uh Mr. Miyagi or whatever, he was like Daniel-san,

so we'll call it Trader Joe-san. And now it's like cool. It's like authentic now, right? Why is a grocery store doing, it's just so, ugh. Well, here's the thing. So along with that petition, they talk about this sort of like the mentality of Joe, the man behind the first Trader Joe, like how that first store, the first Trader Joe store had a nautical theme. Most Trader Joe stores do have some kind of like net netting or like buoys or some shit like kind of on the wall.

But the first one was run. Yeah, they had the nautical theme. Everybody were called... They were described as traders on the high seas. And at the time, Joe of Trader-ness had been reading a book called

White Shadows in the South Seas. And this is all from this petition website. And he had been to the Disneyland jungle trip ride. And it all just coalesced. To this day, Trader Joe's crew members consider themselves traders of the culinary seas and are known for their bright oh god and are known for

their bright tropical themed patterned shirts oh what a tacky origin story yeah right like yeah that's that's so embarrassing and the old Yeah, the only time referencing the Jungle Cruise ride, if you're referencing that, it better be about how it woke you up, about how you need to liberate animals from captivity or some shit like that. And that gave me a cool idea. Yeah, for like a vibe.

This is a whole ass vibe, actually. That's what he took from it. So just to clarify, yeah, it was a 17 year old high school senior named uh brian i i'm not i don't know if i'm saying her first name correctly brianis bedell uh the 17 year old started this and now trader joe's uh is going to stop being casually racist like it's uh that's a jungle trip really i mean it's like and then look up the history of jungle trip what's even funnier is this book that he was reading the white shadows in the south sea there was a film that was made out of it and it's about like the terrible legacy of like

sieve trading companies and like pulling up in the South Pacific and just decimating cultures, taking resources, pillaging, and then bouncing off with their spoils so they can begin to profit off of their trade routes. But the movie's kind of weird too, that people were saying that even though it obviously is talking about the negatives of these trading companies, it also has like these other really bad tropes of like noble savage and like the white savior shit uh so in the end of the day like this is the trader thing it all comes from a i don't know some dude who got really into his seafaring shit and then i mean it makes sense in that sense the logic they're following like well yeah we're plundering the earth and stealing shit from people so why not bring it back to our shores with these funny names

that they can all laugh at? Well, the good thing is the petition did go somewhere. It did, yeah. Well, I guess more in the sense that someone from Trader Joe's claimed that they had already resolved to end this naming convention for their products. And they were saying it was actually years ago, but it just needs some time to reach all the packaging and products like as we roll out new designs then

they're gonna like be there so like but yeah but we knew but we knew but we knew it's sort of like we got it we got it we got it we got it we just haven't done it yet but we were gonna we were actually going to do that anyways so thank you for your suggestion but i actually thought of that two years ago so thank thank you. Oh man. Well, Eve's, thank you so much for joining us today on the daily zeitgeist. Uh,

where can people find you, follow you, listen to you on the many shows that you do? Yeah. Thank you for having me. Um, you can find me, uh,

admittedly, I am pretty bad at social media, but you can find me at Eve's Jeff coat on Twitter. I am at not apologizing on Instagram. Um, just, uh, finished up this day in history class, but you can still listen to it at this day in history class. Um, also on unpopular and you can listen to me on those shows. That's that, that that's it. And people love Bridget Todd around these parts you've also done a show with bridget too yes i have how could i forget um afropunk solution sessions um which is

an amazing show and bridget is an amazing person i love hosting that show with her and check that one out too perfect and is there a tweet or some other work of the social media that you're enjoying. Yes. Y'all definitely gave me a run for my money on this one and figuring it out. But I. Oh, so, OK, here it is. So at Michael Harriet said one of y'all didn't turn to your neighbor and repeat after the pastor. And now the whole country is on the sick and shut in list, which, uh, as a, as a person who grew up in, in the South and in the Baptist church against my

will. Um, and yeah, so I, I kind of related to that heart and I think we all can relate to the COVID bullshit happening right now. So, oh, absolutely. Uh, Jamie, Jamie, thank you for coming, coming by and help by and helping me out, helping this old substitute teacher out before the kids realize he doesn't know what he's talking about. Where can people find you and follow you and what's some social media stuff that you like? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help.

You can find me on Instagram at jamie cray superstar i'm looking for uh something i enjoyed that i first saw on social media um was that ashley ray did an interview with mckayla cole for l magazine this week it was just like a writer i love and i've really been enjoying i've like i'm a big fan of Michaela Cole's it's a really good interview um if you can find it on I found it linked on Twitter originally and um yeah it's a good read it will make you want to deactivate all your social media accounts in a good way so yeah yeah man you you realize how easier it is to relax when you don't doom scroll all day. It's a little bit of self-care.

Okay, well, some tweets that I am enjoying. The first one is from at LukeIsAmazing. It says, pronouncing popsicles like an ancient Greek name. Popsicles. I don't know why. I thought this was so funny. And the other one is from at Krista Peter Suh.

I think she couldn't fit the N on there. And the tweet is just me in a prayer in parentheses reading philosophies. What? Which I just don't, I don't know. I really resonated that

was as someone who tried to get into philosophy in college and was too high when he came to class and didn't have enough dedication to the topic to endure all that. But, you know, I see you out there. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance. So if you like 90 Day Fiance and you just want to get a trash roundup, you just stop by. So we do to take our mind off the ills of the world.

And we focus on the ills of reality TV. And you can also find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram at The Daily Zeitgeist. We have a Facebook fan page. Okay. And we have a website. DailyZeitgeist.com. Where we produce.

Produce. Not produce. But we post. Our episodes. And our footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you so much, Jamie. And also the songs we write out on.

Also, don't forget that The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. So if you want more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the app or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get them. But just get them and subscribe and rate and review and do all that. And now for the song that we shall ride off into the sunset in uh it's called affect a-f-e-t by derringer and this is just a really dope you know me i like a little sample based production this has a really wonderful drum break over like this really uh like vintage sounding like electric piano lick that's playing throughout it. This is, again, this is like background textures. You know, if you want to get some work done,

but you also need a little something to get your shoulders moving, get your toes tapping, this is it. So that's Derringer with Afet. And you know what? We'll see y'all later with a trending episode. But until then, see you later. Bye. අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි අපි Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you.

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