The Daily Zeitgeist - MascuTrend Mind Police 5/6: Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Tom Brady, Kristi Noem, Box Office, United Nations/Israel, Student Protests, Met Gala
Episode Date: May 6, 2024In this edition of MascuTrend Mind Police, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the epic Kendrick vs. Drake beef, the roast of Tom Brady, more weird shit from Kristi Noem's memoir, a box ...office update, the UN accusing Israel of blocking aid to Gaza, the reporting on the student protests all over the country, the incipient Met Gala and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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it was wild though like i saw what you're writing in the doc jack about being at a kid's party i was
also at a kid's party yeah it was like it was like looking around trying to catch eyes with
somebody who might be up to what's going on so you can because like when i was there at this party
that's when the um they not like us dropped right i was like i have my phone out and being like anyone and it's like it's like a bunch of kids and like older relatives who like couldn't couldn't
tell you who any of these people were yeah and then i found like a couple people who were like
i was like there's a new one they're like no no i had to go outside yeah i was getting the most
surface level like did you hear about this? Yeah,
I guess there's a beef with Drake and Kendrick Lamar. Did you guys hear about this? I'm like,
I have no patience for that. I'm like, I want, if you're not doing bar for bar analysis,
I don't want to hear from you. No, I knocked the birthday cake out of their hand and stormed out
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Hello, the internet.
And welcome to this episode of...
It's a production of iHeartRadio.
It's Monday, May 6th.
This is the episode where we tell you uh what is trending
what trended over the weekend my name is jack o'brien that over there well that is mr miles gray
here we are on a monday just a lot we was cinco de mayo it was may the fourth be with you
it was kendrick drake beef weekend It was everything. Yeah. Student protests
more everything.
Everything is Kendrick.
I mean, we're 10 minutes into this
recording just talking
about Kendrick Drake Beef.
I think
the thing this weekend
will be remembered by
in a lot of cases.
We are a May the 4th family now.
We did honor May the 4th
by going to a
movie marathon of
all the Star Wars movies.
I took my kids
to a couple of them.
Wait, are they all back in the theaters?
Oh, for the weekend they just put a bunch of...
This weekend at that
theater that's owned by Disney,
up on Hollywood, the worst place
in LA, that cross-section of
Hollywood Boulevard, where
right across from...
Gromit? Chinese. Yeah.
Right across from Mann's Chinese
Theater. What's the theater
that they own across? Oh, yeah. Oh, El Capitan,
I think is what it's called. Yeah, El Capitan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, my son had not seen episode three. We were like, that one's a little intense oh el capitan i think yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so my son had not seen
episode three we were like that one's a little intent we're gonna hold we're gonna hold it back
and i had just like randomly been like maybe when you're eight and thinking that he would forget
because that was like two years ago and he did not he had that shit like on a jail cell calendar. Exactly. Doing pull-ups
each day being marked off.
I'm ready to see what the
Sith did.
There were not a lot of kids at that.
It was an adult event
people because they were in it
for the long haul. Anyways, shout out to the
Star Wars fans. Hope you all had
some fun. We'll talk about the
Drake-Kendrick
beef. I'm definitely
not as
in deep as you
and Brian the editor are.
I mean,
everyone's in it no matter what.
My entire social media
feed. By osmosis.
It's ambient
everywhere.
A little disheartening given the atrocities happening across the world that like this is doing the kinds of engagement you're like
what the fuck even cab drivers are like you know kendrick just dropped like
no he's like what's this mustard on the beat oh and i was like, what's this? Mustard on the beat, ho? And I was like, oh. Yeah, I think people needed a distraction maybe this weekend.
Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
All right, so we're going to get into all the things that are trending.
First, we like to let you guys get to know us a little bit better
by telling you some things that we think are overrated, underrated.
Miles, you want to kick us off with something you think is overrated?
Yeah, overrated. Okay, think's overrated overrated okay
so uh my overrated is stanley quenchers they're done they're cooked no washed their drink no way
yes i'm telling you it's over for so i'm visiting family uh and in miami right now and one of her
majesty's younger cousins had a birthday she's like in junior high and whenever we talk i'm
always i'm just always picking her brain about like what like what the is cool or you know
like what the cool shoes are like if sure they with this or that whatever and when i asked if
she had a stanley she was like yeah i got two of those and she's like but she's like but that's not
even what everyone's using now and i was like what's like, yeah, now everyone is starting to get the simple modern. And I said, what the fuck is that?
So I Google it.
It's the same thing.
It's the fucking same thing.
It's just a little more minimal somehow.
Just a little bit.
Slightly less lead.
Yeah.
I don't know what it's made of.
But I was like, what do you mean?
She's like, yeah, people like simple moderns now. Like Stanleys are still cool but like I think simple moderns like people are
starting to like those more and this is obviously one very narrow you know uh anecdote from one
school where this is this is happening right just like the idea that suddenly the thing that was the
must-have fucking cup like within fucking weeks is suddenly this other thing that was the must have fucking cup like within fucking weeks
is suddenly this other thing that
looks pretty much the same
this is so fucking funny to me that it's like
and also the idea that it's like it's over bro
it's over
I mean it didn't feel
like so we talked
about how the guy who
is I think the CEO
at Stanley had been like cmo or something like that chief
marketing officer at uh crocs when they like became a big thing but like crocs were unique
and specific enough of a product that like once they became popular it's not like people were
just like oh no i like go to this other thing i mean
there are other versions of crocs but crocs had been around for so long whereas like stanley is
just like one of many many like yeah cup quencher brands um right that yeah tumblers yeah it's uh
yeah they come and they go they come and they go so They come and they go. Yeah, it feels like he's going to need to move on to his next thing.
I'm predicting spinny propeller hats for him.
I've seen them more and more unironically.
I think I sent you a message when I was in Japan when I saw it in a kid's clothing store.
And I was like, fuck, they're here unironically.
So, hey, coming to a head near you dunce caps also i think those
uh dunce caps that i think those clan hoods for students exactly for the bad students 80 percent
of a clan hood basically yeah exactly just without the eye covering yeah although you could just like
take old clan hoods and push the mask part up.
Oh, you got some lying around? Into the crown, yeah.
In case you got some old clan hoods lying around.
You can easily repurpose
those into dunce caps. Go in Pappy's closet.
Yeah, it's not a windsock
like he keeps telling you it is.
Alright, my
overrated is
I just keep seeing these
mind of men memes like, memes.
Like, we talked about the Rome one.
Yeah.
Like, men, all men think about, like, men talk about Rome constantly.
Men think about sex every seven seconds.
The latest one I heard recently is that, like, every man I've ever asked says that eagles are their favorite bird.
And I don't know.
What the fuck is that?
It's so dumb.
Every man is the eagle's favorite bird.
Yeah.
Oh, shit. So it's both condescending, but it also, like, I then have to spend so much time and energy researching eagles and Rome and forcing myself to think about sex so that I don't get my man card revoked.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, that's the most important thing to me.
It's tough out here.
Yeah.
Hanging on to my man card, bro.
When the masculine mind police show up and like, hey, man, you think about bro and eagles i until you came in here that's yeah i was actually thinking
of a roman crest that had an eagle and that was on a man having sex so yeah yeah so i do it
efficiently yeah now i mean prior to finding out what i was supposed to be into. Uh, I hummingbirds were my favorite bird.
Um,
and I didn't think about Rome unless that B 52 song was playing.
Um,
I don't even think that's about the city of Rome,
but that was really the only time.
Uh,
and I could go like literally hours without thinking about sex,
but I've,
I've cured myself of,
of those,
uh,
thought crimes and
now i'm true man uh that's i just have that one air pod in all day that says eagles roam sex
yeah i'm trying to think of what to me the favorite bird thing so weird because i've never
i don't think i've ever had to articulate a response to that. It's just like I think
sometimes birds just freak me out.
Not like they freak me out but like
they're not chill.
You try and grab a bird they're like
fluttering and shit.
I'm like ah!
Yeah but I think
honestly for me I think it's probably a tie
between like crows
and vultures
or condors.ultures damn yeah all
right because i did i remember the the condor thing specifically the california condor i remember
like that was like one of the first reports i did as a child like we had to do an endangered animal
report and that was when i did and i was like, oh, this fucking, dude, this big fucker's pretty cool.
Man, look at that big fucker.
This big fucker.
Giant fucker.
Almost extinct.
But I think now their populations are covered.
But yeah.
And then crows, yeah, because they use tools and shit.
That's like such a, they fucking use tools.
They're fucking smart, man.
They use us as tools.
Yes. They drop uncracked nuts on the street to have our cars drive
over it. How's your Corvid beef
going? It's going alright.
There's a squirrel that is...
So I had Corvids
that were tearing plants out of our yard
and then I started feeding
them almonds and
we were cool for a little while
and then a squirrel found out that I was feeding
them almonds so now
i've had to like stop because i was just get like giving this squirrel like chronic obesity um it
was getting like too fat to like climb trees oh like you could see it oh like yeah you could see
the squirrel getting fat wow and also he would take the almonds and like bury them so yeah uh
contributed to the problem.
So,
but they,
they haven't been fucking our yard up or any umbrellas up.
So I think we have like a grudging respect for one another.
Uh,
I do,
I do wish we could have just like a,
you know,
on like a,
a quid pro quo.
Uh,
I've said it before,
but it really is the only way to describe the relationship i'm
after uh where i could just feed them and they could protect our yard from anything that wanted
to fuck with it yeah i mean you know just maybe if uh there's like a corvid whisper or something
that can broker that deal yeah uh that would help you know so uh frequent guest ben bolin
had some ideas true That's true.
But it involved me wearing a hat and having a call that I did to the crows when I would go out to feed them.
And I couldn't bring myself to do it.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, we're paused at this point in our relationship.
But the problems will persist.
Yeah.
But crows are awesome and probably higher on my list than eagles
and uh yeah vultures in yeah the california condor like they just when you're driving
on a highway in california sometimes like something will fly over your car that is the
size of a fucking truck right you yeah cast a shadow yeah there are massive
fucking birds out here that are
really cool not as cool as eagles
though man fucking eagles
such a like is that like that just
has to be like an american thing right
because that's probably that's all fucking
eagle man fucking bald eagle
i wouldn't be surprised if it's like some
cia shit like the way that the cia
like what funded modern art they've like moved on to like internet memes that are like thought
controlled devices for people sex eagle exactly yeah all these manchurian candidates are gonna
activate it's like we need to get people thinking about the fall of rome because we are in a state of decline so yes we need to like get them but then they'll see comparatively this fall is better
because at least there's tv and internet well they just had circuses and bread we have togos and
outback steakhouse the best um what's something miles that you think is underrated underrated uh just what a formula
one grand prix does to a city again uh i'm in miami the miami grand prix happened over the weekend
and everywhere you look there were people dressed up in formula one regalia there was fucking buses
with just all kinds of sponsors emblazoned on it for all the different racing teams uh they're
just parties there's cars just insane displays of wealth i was walking along the beach
like i thought my eyes like it was at night and there's just like this black mass on the tent
like on the beach and it was a fucking tent the size of a fucking aviation hangar on the sand okay and just music fucking blaring out of it all these
like very well-dressed people going in and out and i was like what the fuck is going on and i
asked the security guard i was like oh what is this he's like ferrari party and i'm like oh for
the he's like yeah for the formula one thing and i was like what why is it so big he's like they
like he's like there's cars in there there's like live performances he's like it's a whole thing and i was like what why is it so big he's like they like he's like there's cars in there there's like live performances he's like it's a whole thing and i'm like holy shit uh and then i
was like reading a thing too about how like at the grand prix there is like some places that
were charging people 200 for chicken wings yeah just because they can and i i think i severely
underrated like i've seen the show and you know i get like the drama
between the teams and things like that but the consumer culture around it is wild like
on the flight from la there were so many people like dressed up like it was like like davos but
more fun right you know like it was just, yeah, hyper wealthy people like being like,
Oh,
where are you staying?
Like,
Oh yeah.
Like we're going to be,
we're going to be in the paddock.
And I just had no idea.
Like I was ignorant to this.
So I was completely underrating what that whole shit is like.
The amount of infrastructure that moves,
the amount of money that flows.
And like,
dude,
there were fucking police escorting civilians in fancy cars to get through
traffic all weekend. What? Like I would hear sirens. I'm like, Oh, there were fucking police escorting civilians in fancy cars to get through traffic all weekend.
What?
Like, I would hear sirens.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
I was like, what the fuck's going on?
Two bike cops and then like a beamer behind it.
And I was like, what the fuck is this?
Wait, bike cops or motorcycle?
Like, yeah, motorcycle cops.
Yeah.
He's just pedaling so hard.
Holding up a Bluetooth speaker to be a siren.
And then I asked the locals, like locals like yo what the fuck is this like oh yeah they just it's dude this is
like this is miami man like if you're rich enough you can get a police escort like wherever uh
through traffic and i was like cool cool cool cool cool that's wild yeah i want that we're like
i think we've talked before about um how moscow you can like what the rich kind of travel around in
ambulances with the sirens on so like because everything else is like gridlocked and yeah
we're not far away we're we're headed towards russian kleptocracy yeah well it's like the
hottest new car is an ambulance like the hottest new car is this ambulance yeah it's like the met gala of sports that's just like
the the wealthiest yeah the the met gala is happening tonight yeah well we'll talk about
the theme um which opulence maybe yeah i think that is the theme um being completely out of touch
yeah there was an executive at like one of the companies that owned Cracked that was super into Formula One shit.
And, yeah, all the stuff, when he was, like, explaining to me why he's into it, it was all, like, just, like...
I mean, each of these engines is, like, $5 million.
Yeah.
I mean, I get that.
Like, whatever.
But it's, like, the weird shit around it, right?
I get that.
It's like the weird shit around it.
It's like the scene around it too where it's like, yeah, I need to buy $200
chicken wings because I'm at this
fucking event.
There's no fucking world
you can just... Or you get the caviar
upgrade for $400.
No.
Okay.
Sure.
Do your thing.
My underrated is just how much work
we have left to do on natural
peanut butter
the natural peanut butter
so about a year ago
as a family we decided
the peanut butter that
doesn't separate
is actually
we don't want those chemicals
if you have no peanut butter at this point
like it's because it has palm oil and weird ingredients that aren't good for you
or the planet uh so we made that decision not saying everyone has to uh you know i spent my
life up until last year living that no stir life but now i'm a little bit better than people who still use
no no stir peanut butter and it's not a problem you know we we all make our choices but it's i
don't know i used to be able to like eat peanut butter pretty seamlessly uh it was a great protein delivery system for the kids.
We were just
log rolling ants on a log
out here.
This weekend,
I was trying to make ants on a log
and I realized the natural peanut butter we have
was past its expiration date.
It was fine. We still ate it.
It was okay.
There was never a time
when we'd not use a no stir peanut
butter like to expiration date it was like on that list of like things that never went to bed
like i feel like we we never don't eat like apples like apples will never rot in our household you
know like bananas have never gone bad in our household like we're
saying the rate of consumption is like we're we're never like forgetting about that i thought
you're like just seeing like we'll eat rotten apples in this house dude we don't give a fuck
no like it's just like those those foods that always get eaten like right away the peanut
butter was on that and now it's just the no stir thing
i'm not saying like it's the best we've got i guess i'm just having that check like when we
were talking about paper straws like you know definitely the best option in terms of like for
the planet but not good enough i feel like that's where we're at with peanut butter
like we we need to come up with something i mean what's what's the real threat of expi
here's the other thing i didn't know peanut butter could go bad and i've had jars that
where it's like you get to that like final third and it's kind of just chilling and you always use
it and i never even thought twice to look at an expiration date.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
Like in my mind, it's like honey or it's like, get that.
That's a shit.
That shit can't go bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think the reason that I was checking expiration dates was because it was like hard.
Like the non-oil part was so hard.
I was like having to stir it in and I was fucking blowing it, man.
I got oil everywhere.
It's a disaster.
Sloshing out.
I ruined my beautiful shirt with oil stains.
So I don't know.
I mean,
there's,
there's Reddit hacks about like storing it upside down in the
refrigerator helps,
but it's still just like such an oily mess.
I feel,
I feel like someone's there's a breakthrough to be made with natural peanut butter
that isn't this annoying to deal with would be would be my pitch to the world my prayer for the
world of peanut butter start reading the peanut butter trades man stay up on all the new technology
advancements because they're they're happening they're Jack. You just got to know where to look. Men read about peanut butter at least once every day.
That's the truth.
Yeah.
I mean, I just had to Google, can it really go bad?
I'm all worried now.
Yeah.
Because I've been eating old peanut butter for like the last month.
Oh, no.
I have to look at it when I get back to my house.
I think I'm going to be amazed at how old this thing is that I've just been like,
just picking away at over the last month.
Uh,
yeah.
Yeah.
Ours,
ours was,
uh,
expired in February and it was still fine.
Yeah,
it was still fine.
Watch.
I'm telling you,
I'm going to,
I'm probably at least 18 months off with this one that I've been eating at
home.
But like,
do you remember,
like,
were you before peanut butter,
like needed to be stirred?
Did you consume peanut butter more than at a rate that would leave an 18-month-old jar in your pantry?
Well, yeah, like when my dad lived in the house, he was a big peanut butter guy.
So we definitely got through it because I'd always eat like peanut butter toast for breakfast.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
With a little bit of butter.
Just a little bit of butter.
Just a little bit of butter.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying like I'm lazy.
This is like pure laziness, like just not wanting to deal with the stirring every time.
And that's on me.
But I'm just saying like as I have found my equilibrium with peanut butter that needs to be stirred.
And it is that I end up not using it because it's too much of a pain in the ass.
And the product, even once it's stirred, it's still just like the consistency isn't quite there.
I like it.
So I don't know.
Zyke Gang, let me know.
If I'm fucking up, if there's some really good version of the all-natural peanut butter that I'm just missing out on, let me know.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about beef.
Another great protein delivery system. The Kendrick and Drake
beef. We'll be right back.
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And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,
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the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
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It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
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I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys.
I just come here to play basketball every single day,
and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros,
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
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And what a weekend, Miles.
What a fucking weekend.
You heard propaganda.
He came on the show and we were just freaking out
about this beef
and where it was headed.
Then Friday came.
Kendrick Lamar dropped another track
after the first one euphoria or you know like whatever you want to however you want however
you want to count these so euphoria dropped that's what you improper talking about yeah uh it
dropped earlier in the week and it was like breaking streaming records and everyone was like
oh kendrick has won the beef like kendrick has has won this like yeah this is this is a lot he
it's it was like a very like concerned troll is like hey i'm worried about you man you don't even
know who you are are you okay dude you fucking culture vulture yeah it's just gonna have that
energy to it then on friday morning he dropped a track called 616 in la jack antonoff famous
taylor swift collaborator uh was also on that beef along with the producer Soundwave and I think a lot of people
were like this is him saying this is Taylor made because that other
Drake track was Taylor made but this was literally made by the dude who makes
Taylor's tracks like the amount of I just love
the amount of engagement this has caused for people like I tweeted this like if people are like
hip hop fans are doing like Q and on levels of
connecting the dots,
like to a point where I'm like,
all right,
like some of this shit makes sense.
Other shit is truly like JFK is going to reappear at Dealey Plaza,
Dealey square,
like get ready.
Right.
Then Drake responded by dropping this track family matters,
uh,
that evening and everyone with a full-on music video of him
like what looked like crushing the good kid mad city van and everyone's like whoa drake he's got
a whole video and shit too not even fucking 15 minutes goes by kendrick drops another fucking
track called meet the grams yeah with like talking about his family and shit talking about how you
got a fucking 11 year old-old daughter that is secret.
Seemingly also responding to the family matters.
It was like he
somehow had heard
family matters already.
There was some weird, spooky shit
that was like
he already knew
what Drake was about to drop.
Exactly. And he even had a line that said,
did you ever think that OVO could be working for me?
Yeah.
And you're like, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah.
And then the next day, you get this other fucking track,
Not Like Us, that came out.
And everyone's like, what in the fuck is happening?
Kendrick does not stop dropping tracks.
what in the fuck is happening kendrick does not stop dropping tracks uh then yesterday drake dropped another song uh called the heart part six and many people were like okay like we needed we
we didn't even have a second to process the first drake response because kendrick replied so quickly
and then this next one it's interesting though because so you know there's this sort of a
darkness to this whole beef because like kendrick is accusing drake of like grooming minors drake is accusing kendrick
of being a domestic abuser and like you're like if true like this is so fucking this is just
becoming more grim but there's also this i don't know the excitement that people have because
this really it's like the music equivalent equivalent of people insulting each other in the cafeteria in junior high.
We're like, ooh.
And they come back with another thing.
And everyone is just so fucking, everyone was around.
Some people knew about it.
Other people didn't.
I was looking strangers in the eyes on the street to be like, do you want to talk?
Nope.
Okay.
All right.
Not for you.
Not for you.
Just calling people in the phone book. Hi. Would you like to talk about the kendrick yeah drake hi no all right thank you cross that is this rachel uh is this rachel anderson
oh she's not there okay i'll hang up hi is this eric anderson's versus the machines by the way
that i just saw uh where the kid the kid
is going through the phone book just being like hi would you like to talk to me about dinosaurs
no okay thank you across truly truly joke uh shout out to that movie but yeah it's just it's
like as music fans i've i honestly have not been so invested in like this back and forth between
two artists like this yeah and
yeah there's just a lot there's just a lot fucking happening uh but then like so the latest thing
that happened is drake's latest response he's saying that he set kendrick lamar up with bad
information about him having an 11 year old daughter and basically provoked this response
based on all this bad information that drake had secretly been feeding kendrick's camp but everyone's like that
none of that doesn't make sense if that was true you felt like your first response to that kendrick
track wouldn't have been like nah right i don't have an 11 year old daughter but then be like
actually dude i planted that information and everyone's
a little bit dubious on this fact because just the logic of it does not make sense in any way
yeah so you know here we are i don't know if there's going to be more songs there might be
there might not be it's like to be honest it's also like kind of exhausting to like yeah like
listen so intently and just try and fucking pick shit apart but yeah wow i can't remember yeah i can't remember
the last time something like pop cultural has taken over the zeitgeist this thoroughly like
it feels like barbenheimer a little bit like yeah that weekend like it was just all anyone was
talking about on social media people were talking about it like a like i said at the kids birthday
party i was at when i was like driving down the street, I heard euphoria playing from like a Prius,
like with the windows down,
um,
which is like such a weird,
dark contemplative feeling song.
It broke like streaming records.
I don't even think it's like the best song of,
of like what's been released.
Like the Al Green sample one,
which I, Oh yeah yeah 616 in LA
yeah but I guess that one's only on Instagram
so maybe that's why
that one's not going as crazy but
the most memorable moments for me was
like Kendrick seeming
to be
like anticipating everything
like the bag of
stuff that he had. He had a picture
with his prescriptions on it.
With Drake's prescriptions
for Ozempic, which has been
a claim all along.
It felt like
it went from
being
a fight movie
or something.
A boxing movie where you're like,
oh!
To like, you're starting to get the feeling
that you're watching a horror movie.
Yeah.
Like Kendrick was like,
rapping from inside a closet in Drake's house.
Right, exactly.
Watching him sleep.
It just felt like they were playing different games
and Kendrick was winning in a way that was almost
unnerving yeah that was kind of like overall i'm talking to your mom i'm talking to your dad and
you're like you you fucked up terribly raising this child yes it's kind of it's because i grab
beef uses be like oh i'm better than you like here are my numbers blah blah blah but now i mean that's what's that's what sort of makes it so charged on all these levels like
with just like all these allegations and now like fans being like you need to look into the death of
triple x and tentacion like it there's there drake was has something to do there's so much other
shit happening that i'm like it's getting to a point like there's so much lore that i maybe i have time for i don't know but i will say the
production has also just been so some of these beats like this is produced like truly some some
of like their most memorable work yeah of like recent memories so yeah like i said if you're
i think for the neutrals it's a lot easier
to digest than people who are like a vested interest in being like i don't give a fuck
like what he's saying about kendrick i don't give a fuck what he's saying about drake like
there's just you're just watching two people uh lyrical pugilists go back and forth but
i think yeah myself and many others are like i i think kendrick may have the edge here yeah
many others are like i think kendrick may have the edge here yeah euphoria is the number one song still on the like apple music like top 100 global not just like america like this is like a global
event like do a leap had dropped a new album on i think friday or last week taylor swift dropped an album like a week or two ago right the top three songs
are songs from this beef so yeah and they're and they're dark as yeah that's so crazy yeah
oh yeah uh i i i this is the other thing too is like for how big drake is i don't i mean unless like this
there's like some real legal shit behind some of these allegations i don't know like how this
affects him really we'll see like next time he goes out in public or performs or puts an album
out like how people respond but i don't know i mean like for some people like who are just looking at it purely like on the battle side they're like all right
well he's done and i think he just he needs to realize his lane is just making party records
yeah and and that's that but yeah i mean like also his response to the drake allegations is
a little bit weird he's like if he's like if you think i was like abusing minors I'm pretty sure I'd be arrested for it by now
and you're like
yeah
this is a weird
these are fucking wild ass rap verses
yeah
but yeah here we are
alright we had the
Tom Brady roast over the weekend
I just saw ads for it
I didn't I have yet to see any clips
oh man Nikki Glaser fucking over the weekend. I just saw ads for it. I didn't, I have yet to see any clips, but. Oh, man.
Nikki Glaser fucking.
Came for him.
Dude,
came for his soul,
his spirit.
She's like,
oh, you've got,
how many Super Bowl rings
does he have?
Seven?
I think so.
He's like,
well, now eight,
now that Giselle gave you,
like,
gave hers back to you.
She's like,
she just had all these,
just kept hitting all these, like, failed marriage jokes. And then she's like, how did all these just kept hitting all these like failed marriage jokes
and then she's like how did you get scammed on crypto like everyone was like making fun of him
for that crypto shit but yeah like apparently from what i saw brady did an okay job at pretending to
be a good like sport about it although like then jeff ross uh made a joke that referenced robert craft's pension for massage parlors and
tom brady stood up and got in his ear and said don't say that shit again wow and he was like oh
okay i got it like and it's so weird it's like you let other like i'm pretty sure jeff ross made
a joke about his sister that he laughed about and he was like but no not not bobby craft don't you talk about billionaire miles
yeah right yeah right who cares then um that's right that is very funny that's like with will
smith with jada like it seems like there might be some strain beneath the surface with a reaction
like that where you're like oh shit robert craft must have been not liking those jokes.
Super sensitive about that.
For sure.
A billionaire team owner
getting jacked off was the line
that he didn't want anyone
to cross. But making cotton
picking jokes to black comedians,
this is the other thing too, right? Kim K was
booed to the point that they kind of
derailed her shit. And there are a lot just like black jokes from white comedians that just started
feeling super old like talking about like like somebody tony hinchcliffe i think was telling
kevin hart about like uh like some some cotton picking joke that was just so stupid like
and like those kinds of jokes from white comedians directed at black people are
not funny um and i get that part of these roasts are to mercilessly fucking batter the guest of
honor and the people on the dais but some of the jokes are just like this chick had sex with black
guys whoa and she's not black she like it's like i just don't think that shit it's like there are
so many ways to fucking roast someone, but using sexist, racist
tropes as an engine for your
comedy is so 2010
that I'm like,
okay, whatever. L for you.
You can talk about his failed
marriage, man.
Keep it in the ring.
So Kim Kardashian was
on the dais, so that
becomes other people that you can hit with strays? Yeah, people in the ring so kim kardashian was like on the dais and that so that becomes like other people
that you can hit with strays yeah yeah people in the audience yeah it's like if you're there and
people know you're there you're you know because they they know who's going to be there that's how
they prep for this so right right then they just go and uh yeah just do their thing do their thing
but yeah i don't know part of me is like i don't know if like roasts like this are just feel dated in that sense yeah no totally like they always have felt a little dated
to me like the i don't know the scent the entire sensibility of them yeah i remember the pam
anderson one was like so fucking violent you know like it was just all people just like tearing her
down for being in playboy or like
you know like having sex with tommy lee or whatever and it's just like and i get it at the
time that's what it was but like in retrospect you're like what the fuck is this like just some
weird like misogyny racist release valve for comedians to go and just say shit that they
normally can't do in their normal sets or at least some probably do in their normal sets.
But yeah, I was just like,
okay, alright. But yeah,
the Tom Brady thing defending Robert
Kraft seemed to get a lot of attention
because he really put his hand
on his shoulder. Don't say that
shit again. Okay. Did anybody make fun
of him for the way he
made his son kiss him on the lips for like
five seconds? have from the
clips i saw i have not seen anything like that but who knows i mean i i couldn't bring myself to
sit through an entire roast in the year of our lord 2024 well if i spent more time thinking
about rome there'd probably be a bread and circus uh point to make about these two distractions that we have with basically watching
like you said, like a
school lunchroom
fight happen
between Kendrick and Drake and
everybody making fun of
the big man on campus,
Tom Brady.
Unfortunately, I don't think about
Rome enough to make that point so let's
take a quick break and we'll come back and hit some other news stories we'll be right back
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And we're back. We're back we're back and let's see christy gnome's book has some more issues so this past weekend a republican fundraiser uh she was scheduled to appear at was canceled due to
numerous threats and or death threats uh we think that's in response to the dog thing
but during an interview
with hannity gnome tried to blame the backlash on the fake news media who put the worst spin
on her story about gunning down a literal puppy yeah i like her quote well sean you know how the
fake news works they leave out some or most of the facts of a story they put the worst spin on it and
that's what happened in this case you literally described being like i had to i had to fucking murk this puppy i took him to the gravel pit and then i fucking shot a
goat too fuck with me like where was the spin on that yeah seal the deal with some goat's blood
it's your own it's your own book yeah yeah but amazingly uh that's not the only controversy
to come out of this book that still hasn't been published. The book features a passage
in which she describes meeting Kim Jong
Un, which experts
were like, wait, what? How?
No, when did you meet
Kim Jong Un? I did.
And I was like, you better
knock it off, buddy. I don't
care. I'm Kristi Noem. I'm a
junior congressperson, and I'm
meeting you somehow.
People were like, no.
No, Kim Jong-un met with the president.
And that was a massive story.
When would she have met with him?
And so a Notre Dame University expert on North Korea was asked to comment.
And he said, I don't see any conceivable way that a single junior member of congress without explicit escort from the u.s state department and military would be meeting with
a leader from north korea this is so fucking stupid i i again i just i like all of she she
kind of i feel like she i don't know how she explained it recently she may have doubled down
but anyway i like how in the book, right,
she claims that Kim Jong-un probably, quote,
underestimated her because he had, quote,
no clue about her, quote,
experience staring down little tyrants.
Because, you know, that's a parenthetical.
I'd been a children's pastor after all.
Cool.
I love how that's so tidy.
Like, you're like sunning kim
jong-un you're like a tough talker and also let him know i also children are assholes i'd be at
kids are assholes but i also teach them about the love of christ so you know conservatives embrace
me embrace me where the fuck do you get off thinking you can just fire that kind of shit
off in a biography when you're
seriously thinking you're going to be the vice or you think you could be the vice president
yeah it's pretty wild i i do love that she's a youth pastor probably presumably has turned a
baseball cap around backwards before addressing uh kids about you know the value of being tough with disobedient dogs and presumably
children you know right um i can't imagine she's more forgiving of children who uh fuck up and
aren't useful uh in her hunting parties right uh a spokesperson for nikki haley also denied
like there's a conversation described where Nikki Haley's scared
of her being the new face
of the Republican Party.
And so as a result
of this reporting, spokesperson
for Noam said the book will be edited
to change the two
quote, small errors
as if
it was misplaced
commas. Not just making up stuff that never happened
and hoping that it wouldn't be caught type of deal yeah yeah so they're just too small errors
okay so you host like again i don't know this is like if we lived in a sane world this would be absolutely disqualifying from even being
like in politics but again it's all based on like self-mythologizing and she just flew a little too
close to the fucking kim jong sun on this one by saying like yeah fucking i stared this motherfucker
down like it was a heavyweight fucking title bout weigh-in yeah like you can't make that's what
like it's so it's so upsetting to me i'm like you think people are this dumb yeah spoiler
alert they are but they do yeah come on now i might as well believe that drake planted all
that misinformation about his 11 year old daughter when there seems to be articles about it that
align with the 11 year old part but anyway yeah
anyways uh she's also suggesting that biden's dog should be killed because i guess there's 24
secret service people who've been bitten by the dog at this point so she's trying to like get on
the right side of dog killing she's like tripling down jesus the uh over the weekend the the box office the fall guy ryan gosling's new movie uh
debuted at number one with 28.5 million which was under what people are expecting 30 to 35
and like this is the weekend where they would usually like a Marvel Studios movie. Like Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 last year
came out and hit $118 million.
The year before that,
Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness
opened with $187 million.
But the well is dry on that front.
They fucked that one up.
The milk's gone bad, folks.
Yeah.
They just really, by making more and shittier Marvel movies,
or think about the Jurassic Park franchise,
people were so ready for that first one, the Jurassic World.
Right.
But they just delivered more and worse movies.
It's this new model where they get young, promising filmmakers,
but filmmakers who can't say no to studios
are pushed back against studios.
And so it's really just movies made in the vision
of the marketing department.
And it worked for a while,
but eventually you just get these like diminishing returns and
um now they're kind of they're at a place where they're like all right what was the last
blockbuster uh barbie uh okay so ryan gosling movies are gonna be our like big yeah big exactly
well because no one you know it's the lack of creative courage in studios at the moment is just, it's glaring.
And to me, I feel like as a strategy, you know, why put all of your money into these huge tentpole swings that are like hundreds of millions, like huge budget films.
When you could make, you know, turn, turn that money into a bunch of smaller bets and empower other creators and tell
new stories because watch like there's always a movie that comes out and the shooter's like holy
shit that did well that one story that's unlike all the other bullshit we've been pushing on
people right right like just dabble in that rather than always fucking being like what's our fucking
big golden goose movie what do we do yeah all right a un official
is calling out israel for denying aid access so we might as well get to the thing that uh we're
distracting ourselves from with all the bread and potentially i mean as of this the time of
this recording it's there could be an incursion into rafa yeah because it sounds like israel has ordered gazans
to evacuate part of rafa for a quote limited operation right so yeah like with all the like
that's what's so wild like in the era we live in like even with all the other distractions and
things that seem like frivolous like there are frivolous the most like terrible shit is still
going on and yeah i don't know it takes up a lot of our attention, as it should,
because it shouldn't be fucking happening.
The head of the UNRWA has accused Israel of continuing
to deny the UN aid access in Gaza as it tries to avert
famine. He said that in the past two weeks alone, there have been 10 incidents
involving shooting at convoys, arrests of UN staff, including bullying, stripping them naked, threats with
arms and long delays at checkpoints, forcing convoys to move during the dark or abort.
And yeah, this is all happening as the Israeli defense minister is threatening an attack on
Rafa, which would have absolutely devastating consequences
for aid operations,
put hundreds of thousands of lives at risk.
Thousands of people have already begun to flee the city.
And this is the place that they said,
hey, go to safety in Rafa.
Yes, this is the place where people were able to go to
when they were destroying the rest of Gaza.
And now they're going to attack that place.
And they're sending them to a so-called humanitarian zone of Al-Mawassi,
where the crisis will obviously be exacerbated
and where aid is desperately needed for civilians, children,
who don't have any way to get food to survive.
who are uh don't have any way to get food to survive and uh but as mentioned the un rwa is saying that israeli forces are not letting them get that aid in yeah this is all too while like
there's still really fucking bad coverage of the student protests and like the always sort of like linking these student protests
to some kind of thing about like an anti-semitism that has happened at these protests and i had an
interesting exchange with a listener uh who's palestinian and pointed out how like i this is
this is definitely a like a sort of reflexive habit that i've developed over talking about this issue is to sort of have
this preamble about like and it's not anti-semitism to to be uh you know protesting the acts of like
the government this has nothing to do with the religion but realizing that even doing that is
just creating an association of anti-semitism with whatever is pro-palestinian which i think
is really it's it's terrible
and it's i think it's like a very it's a rhetorical thing that's happened that i realize now that's
exactly what happened in 2020 with the defund movement that the defund the police thing became
there was such a repetition of like so you just don't want police to exist so police just shouldn't
exist and then there's just there's just gonna be free crime everywhere it's like that's not what we're talking about we're talking
about the fact that we are we are underfunding the kinds of programs that
help stabilize communities just like when people say they're here to advocate
for the freedom of Palestinian people it's not to say it's because I have some
kind of anti-semitic worldview it's because we're talking about a group of people
that are being oppressed and our munitions because i also found out that those seven aid workers
that were killed that were like international aid workers the according to the guardian that
was with american munitions and that this situation is so much bigger than just getting stuck on this
narrow thing about well what about these people what they're saying these outliers to a protest because the main thrust of this
is that we need a ceasefire and we need lasting peace and we need to actually sort this out
and the united states needs to use its leverage to bring about this change um so yeah it's just
like you know i think colombia is now uh canceling their graduation also at least like a school-wide
graduation and you know i was reading an interesting point i mean like these kids
like a lot of these kids are the kids who didn't have graduations in 2020 right and are now in
college yeah yeah because of covid and are now because of the, like the, like these solidarity encampments, they're being punished now,
uh,
by not even having graduations again.
It's just a very,
yeah.
I,
it's like the fucking political just did a thing.
If they're like,
look,
Oh,
look,
who's funding all these like campus in like protests.
It's not.
And they're like pointing the finger at these like democratic donors,
uh, like the Rockefeller foundation or like George george like like soros foundation kind of thing
and being like oh that's kind of weird and then i'm like if you just took a second in your reporting
to talk about how this this conflict and the united states hand in abetting and abetting it
is wildly unpopular with democrats right that shouldn't come and again you want to talk about
like the funding from these groups and like there's grants and sub grants and things like
that a lot of people who are speaking on behalf of these things are like yeah it's this is sort
of the non-partisan nature of getting into these like in this kind of grant work sometimes these
things are in an alignment uh with a political party or an administration and sometimes they
conflict um in this instance but again i don't think it's that it shouldn't be that much of a
surprise when the overarching sentiment even among democrats is that this needs to stop right
all right well keeping with our show's trademark hurtling change of pace but something that's happening
in New York City
not far from the Columbia
protest. The
Met Gala is going to happen
tonight and
the whole thing was nearly
upended by a strike that was
narrowly avoided by a tentative deal
that was reached Sunday night
but on a
winter whoever sees the event is
apologizing for
the confusing theme not anything to
do with like labor practices or anything
no no no no I think if anything she's
pissed that those the workers
knew that they had a they had leverage
yeah to be like
who do you think posts all the fucking
memes and red carpet coverage
that goes on the internet these people who are yeah yeah the name of the event is sleeping
beauties but the official dress code is garden of time which those kind of seem unrelated but it's
just something winter basically said one day without much thought and seems to have caused a lot of confusion um i
personally am hoping that someone wears like a scrooge style sleeping cap like one of those like
long sleeping bonnets with like a long sleeping gown and is just like holding a candle and that's
their interpretation of uh sleeping beauties because that is my favorite iconic sleeping look
that I try and mimic every night.
Yeah, when you put that luscious blonde wig on.
That's right.
I'm a sleeping beauty, now leave me alone.
I like how this is really just
born out of the fact that Anna Wintour has so much
fucking power and no one questions her
that she said conflicting things
and they're like, yeah, yeah, just go with it.
Sleeping Beauty is Garden of Time.
But she also did a drive drive by on a random employee like to just be like yeah actually it was this guy's idea um so and i fear that it's stupid as hell so i apologize her quote is
the exhibition broke my cardinal rule when we we came up with the title Sleeping Beauties, it's wonderful and poetic and romantic,
but actually it could mean many things.
And then, so she shared that she went
to the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Costume Institute
curator, Andrew Bolton, for dress code advice.
I said, what are we gonna say to people
to wear to this night?
And he said, well, what about Garden of Time?
So I fear that we've unleashed a lot of confusion
out there and for which i deeply apologize um okay but she was basically like it was this
fucking guy's idea um fucking calling out names you know andrew bolton it's like whoa whoa whoa
easy easy damn man um yeah well good i i remember when this kind of mattered, but
given what's happening,
go ahead. Get up in your fancy
fucking dress party and
high-five each other. Have a good
time. She admits that in
reality, Garden of Time will probably
just end up being people wearing, quote,
a lot of flowers.
She's just preemptively like shitting on this probably 50 of the
outfits based on the theme that she put out right yeah oh man well uh shout out to all
unionizing workers everywhere may yeah you may fair contracts find their way to you as quickly as possible.
But yeah, damn.
That fucking shows you, man. A strike.
That's...
That got them realizing shit real
quick. It says because the remaining
issues from that fair contract was minimum
salaries, healthcare coverage for trans
staffers, and layoffs.
And then they figured it out
the last second. At least a provisional agreement. So, and layoffs. Yeah. And then they figured it out the last second, at least a provisional
agreement. So, yeah.
They did not want to strike right before
the Met Gala, it turns out.
Alright, those are some of the
things that are trending on this
Monday morning, May 6th.
We are back
tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
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