The Daily Zeitgeist - Matrix ReTrended 4/10: Arizona Supreme Court, Joker, Willy Wonka

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

On this edition of Matrix ReTrended, Jack and special guest host Andrew Ti talk about the Arizona Supreme Court rolling back the calendar to 1864, the new Joker sequel trailer, the Willy Wonka experience coming to Los Angeles, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of The Matrix Retrended. That one is courtesy of JMU Sick One. Uh-oh. I hope you're feeling all right, JMU Sick One. I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by special guest co-host, Andrew T. Oh, what up? I didn't prepare anything fun for this. That's okay. I'm in uncharted territory. I don't know where I am right now. No, trends. Yeah, yeah. First of all, thank you for sticking around for Trends. Yeah, no problem.

And yeah, the Trends, we don't do fun stuff on Trends. It's very business-like, buy the books. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. That's what I'm here for. Yeah. No songs. Yeah.

Took me a lot just to get up to pronounce your name. Andrew T. You know? Yeah. Usually I'm just like- That was up to pronounce your name. Andrew T. You know, usually. That was honestly too much. Fucking Miles and I'm Jack. What else? What else? But yeah, thank you for the Matrix related,

AKA sick, oh, sick one. Andrew, have you ever like wondered, like what if you're in the Matrix? Oh, fuck, bro. Bro? Oh, fuck, bro. Oh, fuck, brother. Oh, shit. I can just tell I'm not in the Matrix because I'm always like my relationship to technology doesn't ever get me to that kind of... I'm just like, I would know I was in the Matrix because everything would be like fucking broken.

Yeah, yeah. Your understanding of technology is such that it would be would i'm just not rebooting all the time i would know i was in the matrix if i was rebooting all the time and i'm not yeah i don't think well andrew the arizona supreme court has made the same mistake as back to the future three and they took it too far back and went back to the 1800s nobody was asking for it but they uh they they've rolled the calendar back to 1864 on their state abortion law um basically enforcing a ban from 1864 which makes abortion punishable by two to five years in prison except when the mother's life is at risk and could

potentially shutter all clinics in the state um it reverses a lower court decision which was appealed by a right-wing law firm everybody i mean cool people not not bad enough to be a law firm a right-wing law firm jesus that is a little redundant but but okay, fair. Exactly. But this law basically stood until Roe v. Wade rendered it moot. And now with Roe overturned, the Arizona Supreme Court is saying that the state should therefore return to a time when the Civil War was still being fought. Yeah. And Arizona wasn't even a goddamn state yet. yeah and arizona wasn't even a goddamn state yet um it is it is nice that you know it doesn't refer to like if a saw bones shall saw shall take the yeah like yeah i mean look yeah it's it's all red dead redemption shit i suppose like yeah this is this is what we signed up for it is a little

wild that having been through several elections now that right-wing law firms are still pushing this stuff. Like they're not modulating any of their messaging or anything like that. It's very weird. And their God emperor Trump, like this really fucks him a little bit. Like he was, he had recently,

you know, uh, tried to sort of thread the needle by being like i'm gonna leave it up to the states and you can't say shit because and then the day i'm pretty sure it was like the day after or like within days of him announcing his strategy of it's up to the states it's not my call folks uh. He electorally gets completely fucked by enacting a wildly unpopular policy that is going to put bodily autonomy on the ballot in a state that is electorally very important to him in the upcoming election. Yeah. Is Arizona actually at all a swing state i remember in one that's

during one election they were trying to bus us out to arizona and i was like i don't know yeah no didn't biden win arizona last okay really okay yeah biden won arizona in the last election so that's why like yeah and nobody was expecting that and that became why arizona was like a big election denial hub because it did not match their expectations at all and that's why carrie lake is i mean carrie lake who at one point was like all about this shit um now in a highly contested election is like i i do not agree with this this is bad uh because it is inconvenient for me um yeah but yeah it's it is yeah i mean it is bizarre to watch them i guess it just takes a while it's the same with like the brexit people like having caught the the car yes that they never wanted to

catch it is a little like i it is surprising they didn't have a plan for this i guess right um like like for instance like the democrats are still playing the playbook of like oh if you vote for us we we're gonna we're gonna really start trying to fight hard to you know to enshrine enshrined like women's health into into the constitution or as a federal law like oh we really want to work on it we do need another 50 from you but we're gonna work on it yeah these guys are just doing the thing that they should have held up as their boogeyman forever it's interesting because yeah for a while the republicans had the advantage that they had the courage of their convictions, like they actually wanted the thing that their base wanted.

Whereas Democrats like had to pretend like they wanted the thing that their base wanted, but like really they were beholden to corporations. Right. And like, couldn't actually do the thing their base wanted. Um, but now the Republicans like have done the thing that a portion of their base wanted and it's just wildly fucking unpopular.

And so they're now at a disadvantage, too. So they're like kind of. Yeah, they've they were they had it in a sweet position there for a little while where they could, you know, just argue for the thing their base wanted as long as they like never actually got it. And now they actually got it. And turns out their base not big enough um yeah so well i mean we'll see obviously fingers crossed yeah uh they still might win the next fucking presidential election uh yeah it's yeah but it's it's that two you know people with unique uh logical disadvantages uh and in addition to all the other disadvantages they have um uh but none of this shit matters andrew because we just saw the new joker trailer and that's what's important uh it's we've all been waiting it has a french name folly

i don't think i got that exactly right i mean no i'm sure you did i took espanol in in high school so fuck off wise yeah thank you i took latin and now you can speak all the romance languages perfectly. That was sort of, I guess, my stated logic, but that's so deeply stupid, obviously, to take a language that literally no one speaks. If I had to rate the weirdness of teachers across all the, because I went to a lot of schools growing up, I do like latin were always the weirdest and like yeah the ones that you most suspected you would have an apt pupil situation if you looked in their basement like you know what i mean like there's always people who are like really devoted to latin it was like there's something ideological behind this that i don't quite trust i mean it's it came into relief once twitter came out and all those like people with like like everyone who's like a not a nazi has like a like a marble statue like oh yeah i didn't

yeah that's true i never yeah i guess it's like my instincts as a 12 year old we're right oh this is Western civilization. Get the fuck out of here. The Joker trailer is Western civilization. That's right. So, Andrew, you did not see First Joker. I did not see First Joker. My favorite film.

I knew enough about the fan base that I was like, to me, it falls under the category of things like the grateful dead and monty python which is like it's honestly probably fine but interacting with the fans of it rick and morty also falls in that category it's white white people stuff where i'm like i do think the thing is probably fine and i would probably enjoy it but i don't want to participate and be with these people yeah i thought it was fine i thought it was like a solid two and a half three star uh yeah you know uh superhero ish movie um so this new one allegedly a musical and they have learned the lesson that we identified here on the daily

zeitgeist that uh just make your musical like yeah but don't tell anybody it's a musical keep it like a fucking secret just do not show and so this trailer like there is some singing in it but you don't see anybody breaking into song so it could just be yeah you know i do you think there's original song or there's gonna be like some like i my guess is it's going to be a musical in the sense that they are going to use existing pop songs sure in sort of reverie type jukebox musical yeah is that what that's called yeah that makes sense yeah it's um i'm hoping if it is a jukebox musical it is a they stick with what uh they did in the first one and just use uh exclusively jock jams yeah like the the chair or the uh stair dancing scene in the first one i'm pretty sure it was

like that gary glitter song from yeah every like uh professional sports time out jock jams is so such a weird concept too i i think i'm guessing i i was thinking about the newest to my knowledge the current newest uh jock jam or the newest like thing that became a widely accepted jock jam because i i felt like it came up through my like entire um like i saw the beginning of it and now where it is which is like do you think the white stripes had any sense when they wrote seven nation army or jack white when he wrote like that this is what it was gonna fucking become i i don't know no i don't think right i think he's too weird to even

know like to even be aware of the concept of professional sports, you know, like I feel like either. No, he's, I think he's one of those weird guys that was like, knows every baseball stat. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.

He's like really into reupholstering couches and, uh, yeah. Baseball stats from like the 1880s. Yeah. He like goes to baseball games and still he still has like he needs to keep the skin pale but you know yeah he's in like a full still suit and but he's otherwise loves being there he's scorekeeping with like a pencil yeah but uh yeah that is that

is a classic um i can i can see it fitting directly into joker 2 um i i enjoyed the trailer just you know i thought the trailer for the first joker was pretty good too so um i think that was the thing i saw on twitter was like people were like you know the the first joker also had an amazing trailer so let's reserve judgment yes but i there has yet to be a film uh in which i did not at least enjoy lady gaga um yeah like the that really bad one uh where she had a italian accent i was still that was great that one is so fun like that's the most fun i've had yeah it was like that and uh salt burn are like in the same family of like objectively pretty bad movies but like highly watchable and like you're just like kind of charmed by the fact that they actually like went through with

this shit um listen house of gucci is awesome too because it does sort of um make like you puts in front of you the ridley scott italians yelling at each other trilogy of gladiator house of gucci and one other thing i guess gladiator 2 gladiator 2 coming to us oh man is that still happening i'm very excited just romans romans screaming yeah although i don't think they had the courage to make the original script of gladiator 2 where maximus goes to hell and then comes back uh and it's like this like psychedelic uh weird like christian metaphor thing uh anyways new joker apparently all the money in the world also has italians screaming at each other so yeah we could do a whole ridley scott loud italians

film festival let's get that going if you if you can get a script in front of ridley scott's production company just make sure it's chock full of mama mia it's like sure everybody saw the mario brothers movie uh that's the mario brothers they wanted you to see but what about the dysfunction the pathos that drives them to go to these strange worlds um yeah just mario sniffing a fire flower like uh but i don't know any thoughts on the on the joker trailer will you see this i'm gonna i'm gonna do a thing that i think um people don't do enough which is just like fuck it i'll just see the sequel without seeing the original yeah that's some of my best some of my best

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Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and let's keep it in pop culture uh fuck yeah fuck yeah willie hawanka experience uh from scotland is what was a lot of fun there for a while um you know we we got that scary uh masked person behind the mirror that came out and looked truly cursed uh like one of the most cursed uh pieces of performance art that like i've seen but it was that part of like what was supposed to be a children's uh like installation um you know the oompa loompa bartender woman just uh all sorts of just glimpses of hell that they accidentally put together um the you The bed sheets on the wall, weird, just weird vibes, like looked like somebody had been squatting there. Anyways, they're trying to get it back.

They're trying to get that magic back by bringing it to L.A. Having lived in L lived in LA with children for the past seven years, LA has a lot of these shitty installations that go into old, out of business, Ralphs and like Kroger's, you know, like that is. LA's art, la's public art scene is some of the worst shit that has ever yeah it's not great you know truly it's like horrendous that fucking museum

of ice cream like get the uh the truly the worst the worst the worst the worst oh i hate it all so much i think that's actually everywhere like it seems like every big city is has been taken over by these like tourist trap things and yeah this is it's it feels like they're almost like what if we just like pretended like that was the point the whole time they're like this fucking sucks i mean and yeah if it's if it's remotely possible and i know unfortunately that it's not because i assume people will go to this. But like if there was a way to not reward these people. Yeah.

Like, please don't go. Please, please don't go to not give them the fucking money. It's tough because I do live in L.A. Yeah. And there's a lot of hours in the day that i gotta kill with these goddamn kids man no i'm just joking i would never take my kids here but i do feel like it's almost part of my responsibility as one of the hosts of this show yes to spend i heart's money on a ticket to go to this I see

I'm just saying I see people are gonna go I wish there was a way here's what I would ask of you just in the interest of not lining these people's pockets and I'm sure they will say no because they're clearly just grifters looking to scrape the bottom of the money barrel

but see if you can get a press entry like yeah that's a good idea don't give these fucking people money like they're awful their ai bullshit was fucking awful and them like riding notoriety to like all presses good press like yeah it really is just going to encourage more of this shit oh i hate them so much um so the new event will be held on april 28th so we're start the countdown 18 days out uh promises to kickstart the sweetness uh with two complimentary jelly beans so that's the detail where it's like oh you guys are like yeah trying to be in on the bit um yeah and then guests can expect a dj set uh live comedy performances uh an immersive

tiny cinema installation screening silent films uh i don't know it's the frustrating thing is i just showed my kids the original willy want like the gene wilder willy wonka i don't know if it's the original but um and they had a blast they loved it and it really does is begging for like it would be the perfect like it's about somebody doing an installation basically you know like he's like come into my warehouse and like see all these fun things like if you could create like if James Cameron was building one of these like installation things like that, this would be the one for him to start with. Or fucking Universal. Like the way they did like fucking Super Mario Land. Just do that.

Just make it what you saw on the screen. Exactly. And charge people a fuckload of money. It would be great. Including the weird. Yeah. people would have so much fun chicken getting his head chopped off when you're on the boat part yes that's so wild yeah there should be a part of of willy wonka land that feels like you were having the worst trip of your life um yeah that's just mandatory i mean yeah that's part of the experience yeah listen it does really capture the uh ethos of being a factory owner i was gonna say in that

time period but let's be real in every time period which is about scraping money and murdering children murdering children uh making a profit while doing so uh so it is i i've always said it's very influential because it was the first slasher film that i saw you know it's like this group of people making their way through an environment like getting picked off one by one um i want yeah and i or like a like a haunted house has little haunted house elements like these people our heroes are only there out of economic necessity right like yeah and in the end they become the demon themselves yeah and then i went on to become a huge slasher movie fan so you know and as a child way too young i was like this fucking rules more more of this man have you talked about the trailer for abigail yet on this show no we haven't uh i just saw glimpses of it but it's great basically killer child is kind of the killer yeah of a vampire

ballerina child yes it looks great please it's right into my veins uh andrew t what a pleasure having you uh thanks for having me around Thank you for sticking around. I appreciate it. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Andrew T, wherever. Yo, is this racist? That's my podcast. That's it. Just, yeah, do that.

Do that. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get the flu shot. then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get the flu shot. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

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