The Daily Zeitgeist - Maxwell Silver Trender 10/20: Nick Rolovich, Child Vaccination, Ted Sarandos, Joe Manchin, 'Fuck Joe Biden', Being the Ricardos

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

In this edition of Maxwell Silver Trender, Jack and Miles discuss Nick Rolovich fucking around and finding out, Biden's child vaxx plans coming into focus, Ted Sarandos addressing Dave Chappelle's fal...lout, the rumors around Joe Manchin going indie, Soxx fans chanting 'Fuck Joe Biden', Wu Tang's one-of-a-kind album being sold for $4 million, and the trailer for 'Being the Ricardos'. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:20 and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it. Do it. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, tried to assassinate the President of the United States.
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Starting point is 00:02:07 Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of Maxwell's Silver Trender. Bang, bang, Maxwell's Silver Trender. Came down upon his head. It's a Beatles song. Not their best work, but it's about a guy killing people with a hammer.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I'm sure it means something else as well. Nah, that was just about a dude killing people with a hammer. I mean, you know, that seems to be what it's about. That is courtesy of Atlas Novak. I am Jack Swell. You are Miles Gray. And hey, here are some things that are a trend in.
Starting point is 00:02:54 We got a couple of stories about anti-vaxxer fallout, or at least one story of anti-vaxxer fallout. And another story of a bunch of people who are in the fuck around phase and it remains to be seen whether they will find out oh um so washington state football head coach nick rolovich uh you know being a college football head coach i think one one of those good jobs you don't you don't want to lose that one you get paid more than you tend to be like among your state's highest paid state employees it's it's weird how america looks at the college football coach like it's just below being a senator yeah absolutely like because there's a pipeline like well they were they were a football coach in the southeast. That's the governor at minimum.
Starting point is 00:03:46 What's the guy, Tommy Tuber? Tuberville? Tommy Tuberville? Yeah. He was a football coach who became a successful politician, right? I mean, he's in the Senate. I mean, yeah. If you consider that successful. And he was trending recently because trump apparently told him to protect
Starting point is 00:04:06 yourself right before the january 6th insurrection oh okay on his wu-tang i guess yeah before you wrap yourself we will be talking about them a little bit later on well uh anyways he refused to uh get the vaccine and he got fired uh which is that's a big that's a big one you know the head coaches of major college football teams don't get fired that often the school announced move late monday evening explaining the coach's vax decision paired with uh state rules and regulations forced university officials hands also probably we're looking looking to get rid of him. Four of his assistants, Ricky Logo, John Richardson, Craig Stutzman, and Mark Weber were also being terminated over their refusal to get the shots. So you're not a martyr. Not a martyr, sir.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Unemployed. Yep. At the moment. Yep. At the moment. Uh, and then a third of Chicago police, uh, chose not to disclose their vaccine status to the city by a deadline by
Starting point is 00:05:09 which they were supposed to more than 4,500 officers, uh, who didn't comply with the mayor's requirement, um, should face, could face getting fired, uh, as both the city and the police union fight the matter in court.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Um, I think the, the head of like the policemen's union there was like had a restraining order filed against them by the courts because what he was essentially doing was like encouraging a strike yeah by being like well you know we're gonna you know just sort of the language of it without saying like articulating it fully that that's what was going to happen but he seems to be you know imbuing a sense of confidence in the police force there to be like well god well don't worry we're going to sue so quick if they try and put you on unpaid leave let's see you preventing preventing an unnecessary death that is the number one cause of deaths among police officers in the entire country
Starting point is 00:05:59 anyway i would really like to see a city like have a radical plan to when their police force strikes just have a bunch of people out on the street who just use common sense to solve people's problems and see how much better that works for that would be like the genius long play to defund the police or to push this and we're gonna get all this shit ready and then when it happens we'll we'll immediately uh channel the funds to the proper departments to create uh better social safety nets for the residents of our towns and yeah well um one way to look at it yeah uh and then in related news uh biden's child vax plan is uh coming into focus yeah so on october 26th the fda's advisory panel will vote on whether or not the fda should authorize vaccination shots for children between 5 and 11 and if they recommend authorization the cdc could quickly roll out the plan for pediatric shots by early November. So closer to relief for most parents,
Starting point is 00:07:08 but I would also say one step closer to a giant clusterfuck of parents who were okay with getting the vaccine for themselves and are still very much like, I don't know. Like it's part of this generational thing that you see with parents now where they're they're like working through something with how much they are focused on their kids and just like you know programming every minute of their day and making sure that they're always like they always know where they are and um you know i i think that this is
Starting point is 00:07:47 going to be a a brighter line than than people might expect when uh with parents and their kids getting vaccinated totally like a reckoning with i think that's the problem or not the problem but that's just sort of the the situation a lot of parents that are our age and you know like gen x and younger kind of parents is that we have like we're aware of the damage that may have been done to us in childhood right so a we have that to consider like and raising a child you're like oh fuck like don't fuck them up don't fuck them up right and then all this other information about you know the child development and things like that that our parents certainly didn't fucking have so for us it's like i don't know
Starting point is 00:08:30 they can read shit seems okay like and now it's like okay like what is in the diet blah blah blah like for me i mean the most you know nutritional guidelines my mom had was more like you'll eat japanese food i make and you don't drink soda yeah yeah no i mean they i i feel like it is the kind of urge for control over their kids lives is like kind of not not fully healthy or possible you know like planning every moment controlling diet like their children's digestive tracks are like pristine lab experiments that have to like could be tainted with the smallest like imperfection i know parents who like you know will bring little uh containers of food to birthday parties for so so that their kids only eat like don't eat the sullied pizza it got a bit of child like they're like their kid is fucking royalty and they're afraid they're gonna be poisoned like it's a
Starting point is 00:09:31 palace intrigue and then i don't know yeah like my even me like my parents were good with me leaving the house at 10 in the morning and going to play in the woods and then you know when as long as i was home before bedtime like i they weren't that worried um and that's kind of unthinkable to me like even though i mean i did like living in la is definitely different than living in wheeling west virginia but like the uh i'm sure it would be just as safe like do you know do you find like because i get and i also i get why a parent wants to have this kind of like they want to ensure the best outcomes but unfortunately there's too much information out there that is creating like all these other you know patterns and parenting that i think as much as they might think it helps like the physical
Starting point is 00:10:23 development of them like yeah what is the kid who was used to never eating what the hoi polloi scum children around him or them were eating uh you know what that person is like in adulthood or what notions they have of being separate or part of something and but I also get like freaking out I think about like if I'm gonna be a parent like where i might do things differently than my parents are like shit to know like oh shit now we know this about how kids will fuck i definitely want to consider that because i want to give my kid the best thing but then it can turn into these runaway situations where now you will even like you'll be like yes the vaccine is safe safe. This will be preventing untold terrible outcomes.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But for my kid, I just don't know. And I wonder if it's more susceptible too. If there are people whose kids are between five and 11, like you're a newer parent versus maybe somebody who's like, man, I got two teenagers and a six-year-old. Yeah, I'm getting that other kid vaccinated. It's certainly been ground out of you by the time your kid's a teenager. It seems like based on just talking to older like parents with older kids they're just like i don't know
Starting point is 00:11:30 man they'll be fine they're like don't you do you feed your kids oh is are they allowed to eat the party the pool party food oh yeah yeah i mean now he just eats like bags of subway tuna and like and like must bottles of mustard that we're we're we're past that yeah but like i i think it's all the stuff that you know it's the the media is very like fear-based now uh there's so much of it like you said there's so much information i just also i think there's something more i think there's something with you know being like our lives being out of our own control more than they've ever been and so like kind of some sort of transference or like displacement of that of that stress onto just
Starting point is 00:12:12 i've got to control my child is the most important thing in my life i must control that right um but i think it's gonna you know i think it's gonna be a thing like I think Bannon, in his focus on disgruntled parents, might be onto something again. Oh, hell yeah. Hopefully not, but yeah. No, there's energy there, and that's all he's looking for. He's reading the room, and he's like, no, this can be a group of people who can be convinced
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Starting point is 00:16:32 in protest of the chapelle special the closer and co-chief ted sarandos did a did a very confusing walk back where he said you, some of his recent memos regarding Dave Chappelle's latest special were my bad. I did not, I made a mistake with those. Should have led with more humanity. Should have led with more humanity.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So it was a branding and messaging issue, but not a content issue because he stands by 100% what he said. But he also did have to clarify, but I also 100% believe that content on screen can have impact in the real world, positive and negative. Okay, that's the one part I'm changing.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I'm changing that part. Yeah, so that's cool. Try and have your cake and eat it too. I don't expect anything less. But it looks like they had planned for a smaller demonstration in front of the netflix building in la and the organizers realized a lot more people were coming so they they went to like a different location to accommodate the number of people
Starting point is 00:17:33 that are coming out because again yeah it is even though the entire special was not about this people again i hear this constantly the that's not the whole thing, though. Yeah, I know. I watched it. But this part, that stands out as someone who is sensitive to trying to create a more equitable world and knowing, nah, nah, nah, you can't really, that's not it. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And that's the point. I don't know, whatever. But he said some things that weren't that um yeah i know that thank you but i'm looking at this and much in the same way i would hear even an off-handed asian joke or some shit i would immediately be like oh this person's trash yeah doesn't matter if the whole thing isn't like that it's just that you understand the harm that comes with just belittling people's struggles or reducing people to a punchline that's what this is about it's not that i think that's
Starting point is 00:18:30 the nuance that people are having trouble actually understanding rather than them saying you don't understand the nuance of the comedy right there's no nuance when someone says i'm team turf right trans women are not women there's no nuance there yeah mansion is trending because there are reports that uh he may be leaving the democrats to be an independent yeah he says bullshit oh yeah listen to this this is that because again mother jones printed this uh i think david corn was the person who reported on it. And this is him. Like someone caught him out outside, you know, around D.C. And this is his just unequivocal denial. I can't control rumors and it's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Bullshit spelled with a B-U-L-L capital B. I asked you, but. So that's bullshit. B-U-L-L capital B? Yep. Spelled with a. Spelled with a bull and a capital b and a full-on shit after yeah i don't i don't know if this is true a lot of people are like maybe maybe not there's
Starting point is 00:19:36 definitely enough and there's enough there to be like well he's certainly not thinking like someone who is trying to support a party platform that they're supposedly is he would that change anything like i know it would change the math but the math doesn't mean shit as long as he votes like a republican right like if he changed to a independent like that would just be i think he's just saying if in this version if that's true then it just means that he'll caucus with whoever he wants to whenever he wants like version if that's true then it just means that he'll caucus with whoever he wants to whenever he wants like however he feels like it got it you know okay yeah um oh man what what uh what a presidential candidate plant for the gop and i think that's
Starting point is 00:20:19 why people are like what the fuck is this like yeah but again he's saying it's spelled with a capital bowl yes uh fuck joe biden was trending because uh so the boston red sox fans maybe this was actually the first one so after one of the games they were chanting fuck a rod and taunting A-Rod about the fact that his marriage had ended. And those things got bleeped out. But then in Boston, after a 9-2 drubbing by the Houston Astros, Sox fans broke out a fuck Joe Biden chant. And that one did not get muted or edited out. It's interesting that Boston is going in the direction of or i don't know are they far are they just like full-on leftists out there is that why they're like
Starting point is 00:21:12 yo this fucking immigration is the same as trump's is trash what you doing about the pipeline asshole what you doing about fucking rent moratoriums or fucking student loan? Anything? No? Okay. That's one version to think about it. But we all see how baseball is the game that lost their shit when Ken Griffey Jr. wore his hat backwards. Yeah. So, you know, it's a mixed bag over there in the MLB. over there in the mlb and then that wu-tang album that is one of one that is a single album has been i guess i guess it had been uh sold a while back but we now know who bought it yeah and
Starting point is 00:21:56 it is the most boring answer you could possibly uh yeah you're like oh shit was it a consortium of wu-tang fans who like crowdfunded buying it it's some group a collective called pleaser dao and they paid an intermediary four million dollars for it so they got so shkreli bought it for two for two million back when he got it when it first came out and they sold it for four because look i look i get it's a one-on-one wu-tang album that's just not going to appreciate um but this like obviously the government had to seize it because they had to settle the the money judgment against him which is like seven and a half million dollars or something so that's a good chunk of his debt being you know serviced with that wu-tang album but the people who uh got it said that they are they're
Starting point is 00:22:46 keeping it in a vault somewhere in new york city it's a consortium i assumed it was like in like invest like rich people is it probably i mean okay yeah yeah there's four million dollars without yeah and i'm sure they are part of like probably in the crypto world because they've been buying like other digital assets before um so who knows who is really behind this group but they said that they wanted to ultimately make the album like actually available for people to hear because at first they made it that was like a thing rizza did as like a protest thing right to make the album because like oh the digital shit is like just too like fuck it this is an album y'all never heard but this apparently if uh bob bobby digital um and his co-producer uh silver rings if they will say yes do it then maybe people can hear it but wouldn't that ruin the point of the album yeah i mean look they don't i don't think they give a shit about what
Starting point is 00:23:45 the reason's intent was clearly if they're like right yeah yeah more on that later rza we're gonna sell this shit rza are you i'm assuming you're also a collective of uh investors rza what is this uh regional zillionaire association and and then Bein' the Ricardos is trending because they released a trailer and I've never seen something like this where the whole thing is a buildup to a reveal that never happens. It's all voiceover from Nicole Kidman
Starting point is 00:24:22 as Lucy Ricardo and everything about the trailer indicates that it's going to be like you know a close-up of her and she's gonna like have some amazing like you know line read that you're like holy shit she is lucy but it just like doesn't happen you don't you don't get to see her as lucy which has some people being like uh-oh is this this is not working it's also from visionary director aaron sorkin oh man my favorite director um all right yeah let the coke fly let the coke fly like it's a lebron james warm-up ceremony wait so in the whole thing oh i guess i'm that's the one where like in the people being like all right let's get ready and
Starting point is 00:25:14 it looks like they're about to prepare for like a big take and they keep showing things around lucy and then don't show her oh yeah it's just like all the back of her head and shit yeah or is that her when i see oh there's like one shot right yeah but it's like it's not uh it's not dramatic or like it's a incidental shot you know it's almost like aaron sorkin's a bad director or something but we know that can't be true so yeah like give us god i this people they're she better be killing it as lucille ball or else like can you imagine they're like don't even show it elf in the beginning they have to cut around her like uh henry cavill and the first uh couple
Starting point is 00:25:57 supermans right there's like oh boy they're trying to make something up they're like oh well we had we have to delay it actually because we got to photoshop nicole kidman's wig off for another wig that she had from white lotus which came from that other production so some problems a little bit all right well those are some of the things that are trending uh we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
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