The Daily Zeitgeist - MBS BFFs, CPAC = “Subtle” Nazism 3.2.21

Episode Date: March 2, 2021

In episode 822, Jack and Miles are joined by American Hysteria podcast host Chelsey Weber-Smith to discuss the George Floyd trial, Biden and Saudi Arabia, CPAC, the right's outrage over the Muppets cancellation, an Illinois Democrat wanting to ban violent video games, and more!FOOTNOTES: After backlash, Minneapolis scraps social ‘influencer’ plan for trial over killing of George Floyd Biden Won’t Penalize Saudi Crown Prince Over Khashoggi’s Killing, Fearing Relations Breach CPAC Orlando: Trump hints at running again in 2024 as a Republican, but only 68% of attendees agree How A Nazi Symbol At CPAC Turned Into A Massive Hyatt Public Relations Disaster Don Jr.’s Outrage Over ‘The Muppets’ Being ‘Canceled’ Is Being Mocked For The Most Obvious Flaw In Logic Fact checking CPAC: speakers make false claims about the election, the Capitol attack, immigration, Covid, and The Muppets The Muppet Show: Disney+ adds content warning of 'negative depictions of cultures' Here's why certain Muppet Show episodes are missing from Disney+ Fox News Absolutely Freaks Out Over Disney+ ‘Muppets’ Disclaimer Right-Wingers Outraged by Muppet Plot! Muppet movies: their communist plots revealed Miss Piggy Comes Out as Pro-Abortion A 'perfect storm' for car break-ins: Vehicle theft spikes across the U.S. amid COVID-19 pandemic Carjackings more than double in Chicago during 2020, police say, perhaps as criminals blended in with masked public Ban sale of Grand Theft Auto, other violent video games, state rep says Illinois rep. wants to ban ‘all violent video games’ to curb violence ‘Grand Theft Auto V’ sold 20 million units in 2020, the most since its 2013 release, Take-Two CEO says Over 62,000 Unemployment Claims Filed In Illinois Last Week Amid COVID-19 Pandemic ‘Poverty Is Killing Us — All Of Us’: Lightfoot Pledges To End Generational Poverty WATCH: The Magical Light of Saba - Lambs Bread Collie Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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into America's shared consciousness it's tuesday march 2nd 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka do brings my sperm count down right down never go to pound town because it's so down do brings the western sperm countdown like children of men we're all going down down that is courtesy of abstrusal the official dickhead uh there's so many on twitter uh what an honor to have the official uh the blue check mark of dickheads uh providing akas and And yeah, I'm shocked it didn't occur to us when we were talking about the West's lowering sperm count that Mountain Dew is probably the culprit. I am thrilled to be joined, as always,

by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Don't go chasing FOMO Please stick to the people and the paws that you're used to I know that you're gonna fuck around and find out But Cuomo, you're just moving too fast What's up with outdoor dining? Thank you to the interdimensional technician for that one because yeah a lot of governors are just ready to fucking i don't know set the clock back to january 2020 or some shit uh so that uh is a little frightening i mean uh i think a poet once said that uh or i

think the t.s elliott or uh the guy who wrote great gaspy one of them said that, or I think the T.S. Eliot or the guy who wrote Great Gatsby, one of them said that America has no second acts. American life has no second acts. And I think America fucking around and finding out doesn't have the find out part. They just fuck around and then everybody looks the other way while they find out. Yeah, it's it. People just ignore the finding out part. No, no, no. We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not finding out. No, no's it. People just ignore the finding out part. No, no, no.

We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not finding out. No, no, no. We're not finding out at all. Well, we are thrilled to have in our third seat one of the classic guests, the hilarious, the talented,

Chelsea Weber-Smith! Whoa. Happy to be here. I don't have a song. Happy to have you. Happy to be here. I don't have a song. Happy to have you. Happy to be here. Great to have you back. We are going to speak like this the whole time.

What's new in your world, Chelsea? What is new in my world? I've prepared a couple of rants for you guys when the time comes when i get to have my personal time um so until then as usual i'm going on walks i the most important event in my life is i found a yearbook from 1970 and i've been really like figuring out the relationships between the different characters in this yearbook. And, you know, the queen bee finding out who her boyfriend is. There's a lot of information in this book. And looking them up on social media.

So just another quarantine project. That's a sick idea. It's a yearbook with the inscriptions? There are no. sick it's a yearbook with the inscriptions there are no um it was i figured out that it was like a teacher's or the assistant principal some old ass dude got it how this 1970 yearbook from uh new mexico got on the ground in west seattle is right a very cool mystery but otherwise tragically there are no. But you're just inscriptions. You're getting the interpersonal information from just like yearbook quotes and shit like that.

Yeah. And I mean, they're they're writing up like, you know, she was the town princess. I don't remember the name. She's the town princess going, you know, going steady with, you know, whoever. And you can really trace sort of the social scene that was happening there. And we've got this amazing emo kid who had like an original swoop, which wasn't really a popular hairstyle. I don't think in 1970. It was all feathered back then, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. Oh, it was feathered or it was just, yeah, it was all feathered.

Mop top. But yeah this kid was like the you know the school newspaper editor and went on to have this amazing quote that was like he went on to be a psychology major. I looked them up in the newspaper. All these old newspapers. Yeah it was so fun and you know he said

something like I should have gotten it but he said something like he was going to be a psychology major. So he was interviewed in the newspaper for that. And he said, you know, I love watching people and, you know, I can really understand people by watching them, but I'm different. No one can understand me. And I was like, man, I was the same. It's because he was presaging the dawn of reality television. Yeah, absolutely.

You know what I mean? That's how I say, I like to watch people and learn through trash TV. But I did find this person, y'all. I did find this person. You did? Well, I think I did. Okay. I've been watching a lot of Catfish, so I did a pretty intensive dive into this.

Thorough legal stalking. Yeah. Guess what? Gay writer. Gay author. Oh, hell yeah. Beautiful. Just a great plot arc for our emo kid.

So that's really all I've been doing. This sounds like a spinoff show from Starly Kind, which is grab a random yearbook and then start putting the pieces together and then verify with the people you can track down. That was what I was hoping to do, but so far nobody's responded to me. I was like, this would be a great podcast. Well, here, I'll throw you one from one of my high school. I'm sure all those people will talk to you.

Is there anything surprising about the styles or what people were into at that time? I mean, it's pretty it's pretty boring. You know, it feels like, yeah, it's pretty. It's like very 50s, even though it's 1970, you know, it's kind of like prim and proper. But there's like some there's oh, there's a great part where they talk about going to an orphanage to like do some sort of volunteer work. I don't know which group it was. It was some sort of, you know, an after school group.

But all they did, they went to this orphanage and all the little section said was that they gave orphans a stuffed mouse. And it seemed to be a singular stuffed mouse. They gave it a hook. mouse it was mouse it wasn't mice so i don't know if there was just a singular mouse we went to orphanage and give mouse that was pretty much the article it was bizarre it's bizarre i feel like the stuff i read about the 60s and 70s um when people are doing like myth debunking it's usually that the kind of what you just alluded to that it's like more square and more like 1950s than uh the popular imagination remembers because everybody was focused on like hippies and the anti-war movement and then like disco and like

those things were sort of uh subcultures that were on the outskirts and everybody else like a lot of the other people just had like uh the same haircut and um you know the the number one song during the vietnam war period the best illustration of this that i can think of is uh was not anything by credence clearwater revival it was uh honey honey sugar sugar you are my candy girl by the archies by by archie as a musician so yeah i guess looking back what the myths will bust is like look only some of us were eating ass and into qAnon. Right, exactly. Not everyone. It wasn't just that ass-eating conspiracy fest, okay? Some people have work to do.

I mean, but see, it all depends. See, that's where we start getting into nuance, but I think overall, I'm sure I'll tell my kid, this is not a good outfit for your 2020s dress-up day. Right. Yeah, yeah. All right, Chelsea, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first couple of things we're talking about today uh we're gonna talk about america's two-facedness uh being all over the place uh we're gonna talk about trump's cpac

appearance uh which was kind of kind of quiet subdued we'll talk about gab continuing our right wing uh social media deep dive uh but there's not that much depth it's just a pretty shallow this place is not good at being a social network we'll talk about the right-wing outrage in defense of the Muppets and why that is completely bullshit because the right actually hates the Muppets and have for a long time. We'll talk about what could be the future of New York City, a future that would make me have to move there. It sounds amazing.

Talk about zombies. We'll talk about the new postal trucks, and we will talk about a good old-fashioned American moral panic. Kind of a pathetic one, but we do have to talk about it because Chelsea is here. Yeah. But before we get to any of that, Chelsea, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? Well, I hope you guys can relate to this because it'll be more fun. But my most recent interesting one is CKY videos. Do you guys remember CKY?

Hell yeah. Hell yes. I have CKY2K, the DVD, somewhere in my garage right now. Bless you. Yeah. So we're working on an episode. And in case people don't know, I host a podcast called American Hysteria. It covers moral panics, conspiracy theories, urban legends, fantastical thinking, but through a lens of sort of cultural criticism and sociology and stuff.

So not do these things exist, but sort of how does our culture produce these and then how do they affect the culture? So anyway, the way that CKY, which were a series of skate videos by the now famous Jackass crew, that's the most simple way to put it. But we're doing a episode about influencers right now and the culture of like branding people essentially um and immediately i was like what isn't like what's an earlier influencer like pre internet and i was like oh it's sponsored skating and you guys probably remember like how cool it was to be a sponsored skater in like the late 90s oh hell yeah that was like that was like that was the twitter verified check mark it was like but it opened way more doors it was the

valley yeah it was like right and you know there weren't that many for a while and then um the kind of like influencer micro influencer thing happened and so i've just been really diving into the history of marketing skateboarding and the idea of like authenticity being so important in branding and how there was like kind of like back then there was nothing as authentic as being just like a fucking skateboarder, you know, because it was just middle fingers and weed. And it was shoes that would hide your weed yeah just the biggest shoes yeah it's basically like the platform shoe of the masculine world the pro platform yeah the pro platform but so that that's kind of revealing about at least what i've been doing and so i've just gotten to go back and i was a i was a skater um in my day and just to kind of go back and remember just like pushing, like having someone

push someone in a shopping cart and launching them into a bush and just like pranks at the mall and how skate culture and prank culture kind of has led us to a really different thing. But if you think about like the YouTube TikTok houses houses like these sponsored skaters were just getting like hauled around the country and just being showered with cash like 10 grand a month and and just i don't know it's it's so similar to these weird mcmansions full of tiktokers you know it's just like with their wranglers kids to love for yeah and that's kind of what it was it was like crank out, crank out like the most incendiary. I mean, I was like, oh, my God, the 90s were so bad.

Oh, yeah. People cannot imagine. And, you know, it's not like I was perfect in 1999. really it's been just a really fun and fascinating dive back into this really um offensive masculine culture that kind of is mirrored in like what like logan paul i would say is like some kind of continuation of of jackass and and skate pranks but that's been uh that's my big uh fun time lately is just watching old skate videos the cKY videos definitely had like a panic in like the Christian Catholic mother set, you know, because there was like there was like pentagram iconography and some of this stuff and it stood for camp kill yourself. Yeah. And like on top of it, it was giving every idiot teenager like the idea to break their wrists at a local parking lot in a shopping cart that you pushed

off a loading dock with no sense of what gravity is no um so like yeah i remember people being like oh like like a cky team's like oh you have that like oh that's sick blah blah blah but yeah cky2k i still i still have that shit somewhere go back and watch it yeah because i was like yo mike valelli beats up three dudes in it outside of 7-eleven in this one yeah we're like what because it almost it was like a you it was like youtube on a mixtape right you got that's exactly right you got skating you got pranks pranks maybe some weird toxic masculinity in the form of like misogynistic tropes or whatever like dick jokes uh and fighting and gay jokes lots of gay jokes lots of racism like stuff that you're like oh my god like right the stuff

needs to put on the boards even like print on boards was just like oh yeah i remember there was like a chico benes deck that was like of a like a dude selling like oranges like out an off ramp or something out of a shopping cart and people like oh it's as sick as deck right now yeah it's just a really different it was a shock it was a really big shock culture time for sure yeah absolutely well we have that but it's just transformed a lot so it was named after a band i guess and one of the the drummer for the band was jesse margera who is i guess bam margera's older brother so it's a it also has that like sort of how a scene develops in like a small town sort of vibe to it right and then suddenly like johnny knoxville's shooting himself in the chest

point blank range like i just watched a video of johnny knoxville just just shooting himself in the chest point blank range. I just watched a video of Johnny Knoxville just shooting himself in the chest. And he's like, yeah, I didn't know. This is the cheapest bulletproof vest I could find. And he's just like, what the fuck? What were we watching? And those guys, like Johnny Knoxville, was already part of that scene from the start?

Or did he kind of jump on it once it he wasn't part of the cky he came like cky was its own thing and then it started got it blended i don't know through who but yeah that's when i'm i don't know if that's when spike jones decided to marry the two groups together to make jackass but i know spike jones was the next level for everyone yeah he was like really responsible for like weaving in skate culture into like music videos like Beastie Boys and all kinds of like, you know, everything he was doing commercials and stuff just like weaving in skateboarding until it became this like really common trend and it reached zoomies essentially. Yeah. Yeah. essentially yeah yeah uh authenticity is so important and and yet like they just pulled that in and made it inauthentic and yeah now we're posers yeah so i uh robert evans on a recent

episode of uh bastards with jamie loftus about the manospherephere and that sort of toxic masculinity, sort of like the alpha. And now there's a Sigma male and all that shit. It's a really good episode. But they, there's a theory they talk about that capitalism is basically a really smart AI that has like basically reached the singularity because it just immediately incorporates and like always makes the right like move to counter whatever attacks it and like incorporates it into into its grid or, you know, logic, basically, which makes a lot of sense. which makes a lot of sense well and you know it was i mean we'll talk we have we're covering this in our episode coming up but it's uh a lot of influencer marketing as we know it was actually

designed by freud's nephew and uh yeah very yeah i don't know if you guys know about him edward bernays but it's we're gonna get into that and it's just really freudian like the way that advertising evolved is super entwined with psychotherapy which is just so creepy right because consumer culture it insists on having unhappy people for it to thrive like if you're fully realized and self-actualized you might not need to reach for these products to be like this constant spend cycle of the advertiser dangling the thing and the lifestyle they think you want and say if you buy this then you could be this and i think that's the other part is like it also benefits you know uh this consumer culture capitalism to have as many unhappy people as well because you know happy people don't buy as much crap yeah and then the unhappy people create great art that

they can then uh incorporate into the capitalist uh slipstream right yeah it's a it's a great system they've designed uh or that's designed it's effective yeah it certainly works the other wild thing just some a lot of people don't know this about spike jones you know i don't know if you heard the spiegel catalog he's he isn't he comes from this his name is sam spiegel or whatever spiegel um and he changed it to jones because it was like a very very famous mail order catalog that was like you know huge in like the early 20th century so you know got it got to change the name around so they don't know you you know know, you're a rich boy, Spike. Right. Wow, that's cool. I didn't know that.

And isn't he with Sofia Coppola? It's like, oh, it's all wonderful. I love it. I love it. He was. His character, Giovanni Ravisi, in Lost in Translation, is his character. Real name Adam Spiegel. Yeah.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and chelsea we like to ask our guests as you know what is something that you think is underrated i'm not gonna expand on this much because i have much more to say about the next question but i'm very into hacky sack again um and it's and i mean i think you know what it's like been brought up because of watching all these skate videos i think and my friend got me a hacky sack and uh that was something i used to do a lot in middle and high school um and uh we actually i did want to tell you guys this we snuck through we had a club called the hack club and of course we smoked a lot of weed and so we made these shirts that said um the hack club but it said thc really big um and then it said shorewood's finest fire it up and it snuck through somehow the administration didn't figure it out

until it was too late and we had proliferated these sweatshirts all over the school it was really cool so hacky sack is my uh one of my truest passions and people think it's so stupid i don't know why i think it's super cool uh and what is something you think is overrated well this is this goes back to what we were talking about before, but brand activism is something I've been thinking about a lot. And, you know, part of our episode focuses on the Kendall Jenner Pepsi scandal that we all remember, I'm sure. But it got me thinking as I'm watching all of this stuff unfold on Twitter. And for people who don't know, I am non-binary. I use they, them pronouns. And so this week's been real fun for me. So but, you know, it's like

watching watching things happen, like the potato folks now who are not gendered. And, you know, that that whole thing of like, oh, well, like, I mean, a lot of people were pissed off and thought it was, you know, super stupid and everything. But I think, you know, it's nice. It's nice. You know, but for me, it doesn't feel authentic necessarily. And I know that 64 this is really important, I think, 64 percent of millennials and this is, you know, polls way pepsi tried to sort of exploit the black lives matter protests and everything um and i think what's so interesting is like i didn't ask for the potato heads to not have genders i mean what they're they're one potatoes two you can switch their parts already so like you can put you can put the high heels on with the little bowler hat it doesn't matter but like i don't i don't think there was like an outcry

from trans and non-binary people to do away with the genders of the potatoes um and yet now all of the hate is like falling back on like as if we demanded this and we're being totally unreasonable so it's this like like they get to look good and then we get to like carry the brunt as ridiculous as that may be from whomever decides to think that that's a horrible or ridiculous or you know the left is going too far again thing but it's like the left did did we demand that or was that just an opportunity that they saw to market to i think it's just it's open for attacks from the right and the you know the culture war context because if you're progressive and you are actually caring about these things you will say like oh that's a little that's regressive or that's aggressive to have

this thing just sort of delineated as a binary or whatever considering that progressive people say and on generally be like gender is a construct is everybody still with me okay so then therefore let's look at these things but i think because they know that to be part of like progressive culture that it's like of course they wanted this because everything is gonna it's like look there's a difference between like yeah like talking about things on how to move forward and trying to paint someone as like a you know i maybe there was someone who had a campaign against the potato heads but i there's certainly larger battles for me to pick than yeah than one of the fucking hasbro and also a lot of trans people use Mr. or Mrs. It's not it's such a strange.

Yeah, it's just and I mean, obviously, potatoes also don't inherently have genders. I think that they're like self whatever. I don't know. Science isn't my thing. Self tubing. Yeah, there you go. But, you know, and of course, like another important thing is like I'm speaking for myself. I'm sure that there's lots of queer, you know, gender nonconforming people that think that that's wonderful.

And it is. I mean, it's great. But what's great about it is not Hasbro or whatever the company is. It's it's the fact stupid and shitty and embarrassing. Right. Launches us into like the spotlight. I mean, we're going to talk about the Muppets and it's kind of, you know, it's likerated because a lot of, I think, more progressive sort of centrist might might see that and think that that's just it's just so wonderful. You know, where whereas I'm seeing tweets that are just horrible about, you know, and then Oreos tweets, you know, trans people exist.

And it's like, oh, OK. Thank you. You know, right. It's like Nabisco. What's your policy in terms of your employees if they needed life-affirming gender reassignment surgery do you do you kick in on that that's that's it you know like no there's no there's no paid leave or anything like that but the Oreo well here that's the difference that wasn't Nabisco saying that that was the cookie talking right you're gonna take that up with the cookie and I don't think the cookie has benefits or hr so i don't know i i feel like the it's interesting to view the potato head thing on a continuum with the pepsi ad because

i feel like the pepsi ad was an example of the brand trying to appeal to people who have progressive politics. And it just like failed miserably because they, first of all, it was just poor, like horribly handled, but also it's just a more subtle thing to do that. Whereas the, I do wonder,

like, I would love to see a marketing material leak like they had with the logo design for Pepsi, where they were just like hosed for 20 million dollars by people who were just like throwing out. Who knew how to use Photoshop? point that because the right is just so reliable in its outrage and you know exactly what is going to happen when you do something that is even remotely progressive in any way that the right is going there's going to be an outrage uh that is incredibly reliable and that automatically pits you against so it's like a safer bet to do something that's designed to outrage the right and be safe as opposed to like trying to do whatever the fuck the Pepsi ad was trying to do.

Yeah, I think there is, or it's like, it's just genius troll marketing. It's like, well watch, but nobody give a fuck about potato head. We're going to do this thing.

It's going gonna outrage the right every news outlet's gonna cover it and without paying now even people have heard whoa hasbro's on the right side of the woke wars yeah and that's all they had to do was just piss off the right um and that's that seems that also seems very like a very feasible marketing plan to save money on on your ad bucks uh because you see it done with other stuff too like i mean it's normally just like some sensational product they use to get blogs to be like oh my god a log that smells like beef but like with this shit they can get everywhere like just past the toy blogs or food blogs by making by entering the culture wars and

be like and we're right and honestly the people on the right they just talk shit what i still see them drinking kruig and wearing nike so it's really just noise yeah i want i want somebody from the marketing world uh if anybody if any zygang works in marketing and knows like i bet there's a term for this whatever is like basically right-wing troll dating but it's and it's going to be so euphemistic oh yeah it'll be like yeah yeah organic societal reconciliation strategies so brutal oh uh all right let's get into uh some news america is i mean we've talked about double standards all over the place but miles you you had kind of written up a couple places where you're seeing america's double face all over the place just yeah if it's not if it ain't double face it doesn't belong in your

face or whatever the carlos jr thing is but it's just this whole okay like i'm you know like everything if you're an aware person who's progressive you'll find someone to be so outraged in this country without without even trying um the first thing was a i was just reading this thing about how these proud boys they're being arrested uh some of them are going to be on conspiracy charges which carry just really lengthy sentences and reading some of the actual descriptions of the people that were charged um you know one guy was roaming was prowling around with a fucking axe handle and like threatening to take out police okay and this guy didn't get shot he got in people's phases you see him in video um nothing happened

it wasn't you know the only person that there's only one person shot and killed by police like sort of in like the main sort of melee of it and the quote-unquote security around the capital look more like you know frosh orientation at a university you know it wasn't like a welcome wagon exactly but it wasn't really like yo who, who are you? What's going on? Who are you? What the fuck you doing here? So then cut to the George Floyd trial is about to kick off in Minnesota. They have already barricaded the courthouse and shut down the street where the court is for a trial that starts in one week.

In one week, they're about to start the trial. And they have already fortified the place of fuckery because they know they're wrong. You know what I mean? And the visuals of something like you can get a lot of intel that or the watch the news that these people are going to storm the Capitol. You could prepare because whatever, you know, because white supremacy will let it rock, whatever. Something like this. People outraged because of an injustice that's being committed and now you're like get the fucking steel wire out the tanks everything called a you know called goku from dragon ball so he could fucking handle these people i don't know what like it's so

next level so that was just like the first thing that was really jarring to see. Just sort of this, the duality of like two situations where municipal buildings are protected or not protected and like what the outcomes are possible or are possible. And the other thing that came out of the Minneapolis thing is the city was going to hire social media influencers during the George Floyd trial to reach out to communities of color with city approved messaging to talk about the case and people like what the fuck is that they said last friday uh the council unanimously approved a public and safety communication plan tied to the upcoming trials which paid two thousand dollars per person uh to six influencers in the city's black humong latino native american and Somali communities. They scrapped that because everyone was like, what the fuck are you talking about? They said,

it was just to get information into the communities. Either way, city-funded messaging around one of the most significant trials around racial injustice being pumped into communities is deeply problematic. So good for them for figuring that out. These are people who are probably going to be covering the story anyways so by adding a paycheck to it and like it being the official city like you know like the unofficial official city approved messaging right uh it just feels like yeah i mean yeah like can you imagine it's like y'all is derek chauvin invited to the cookout? Like, no, get the fuck out of here. Like, and that's the kind of insidious shit that I can just, you know, not that it's going to be that fucked up, but in a way just as offensive. The next one is just about how Biden is handling Saudi Arabia, specifically Mohammed bin Salman. we were we were talking about an american national jamal khashoggi was cut up and tortured murdered on the okay of muhammad bin salman trump just like let it rock and we're like of course

he's gonna let it rock but at the same time i think we we can't really trick ourselves too much because the u.s and saudi arabia like it's i don't know when there's going to be any kind of reckoning of this relationship that clearly did some I don't know when there's going to be any kind of reckoning of this relationship that clearly did some damage. But, you know, when you look at what Biden was saying and doing, for example, we talked about this strike in Syria against Iranian back facilities and what was going on there, but there's this need to try and get the nuclear deal done to try and have Iran come back to to the table they're already being crippled with sanctions but they're saying uh release the sanctions as a you know a show of goodwill and then we can begin

negotiating because right now you're just killing us and then just demanding more and so you have to kind of see from our standpoint too it's like well if this is going to be a fight to the death then we'll fucking knuckle up like that's just how human nature works. Sanctions are violent. Sanctions are like 100% to death. I mean, and a lack of resources getting to people that need it. So Mohammed bin Salman kills an American. Joe Biden calls it Mohammed bin Salman's dad,

the King first to be like, so here's the thing, you know, we're going to make it hot, I think, but we're not going to do anything. And you're just seeing the way two things are being handled. Right. Because on one side, I get there. There's a lot to talk about in parts through with the United States Saudi relationship as it relates to petrodollars, how they helped us make keep the dollar as like the standard when it talks when we're talking about trading petroleum, because that a huge issue too on top of being a strategic ally on the region but the whole thing whether it's white supremacy or autocratic regimes like the united states it's like they're so inconsistent

and we ignore the bullshit depending on like if it's white supremacy the u.s is going to handle it we have to go down the checklist what are the people who are perpetrating look like and what do the victims look like if it comes to autocrats with a pension for human rights violations it's like well how much are they spending on arms with us what can they do for us and also what do the victims look like because i think one thing is for certain that if the victims are anonymous or faceless and don't look camera ready, they can die in droves and the needle won't move in this country. And that's the same thing with unarmed people of color being killed by police, or maybe the people that are being killed in Yemen by Saudi Arabia.

There's just this whole thing of like, well, you know, it's not, it's not a, it's not cause he, Jamal Khashoggi was in part of an elite class. So had connections to it. So that already changes the game because at the end of the day you know the united states will always there's not it's it's hard to say it's always moving consistently in one direction on an issue unless it's taxes that's the only thing i can really think of on the other hand uh nobody likes to have their parents called by the teacher that's always scary uh so mbs must have been really nervous uh when he heard

that phone call was happening um that i just locked up more of his cousins or something right but yeah just the handling of you know the other thing is joe biden called saudi arabia a pariah state yeah he was running for office really where's that energy joe but at the end of the day i don't but at the same time name a single u.s president that really fucking puffed their chest up at saudi arabia right you know it's it's a whole other thing and you know and our relationship to iran was similar but shit changed because when they're when the shah uh you know was fell out of power and now we had someone in like anti-american theo like a theocratic class move into power then that immediately shifted the relationship and i think that's the thing that

the biden administration says out loud well we don't want to sanction we don't get too hot because we need them there because then if they turn totally turn anti-america then it's going to be some kind of a very similar thing that's played out with other quote-unquote allies in the region right put it simply you know the u.s has three like not many options when it comes to saudi arabia they either go they say okay we're done here's sanctions that is going to completely push them away and now you have a country that used to be this place that you could launch all your scary war machines from to scare the other people in the region from that's gone and then you turn that into an enemy the other is just to do what has been happening which is to just look the other way

and be like well thanks for the half-assed collaboration on some like anti-terror stuff we do and then also i mean think about like they didn't say anything after 9-11 yeah yeah if you just look at the 21st century history of that relationship, it's pretty, pretty wild. It's the same thing. Like when it comes to those strategic allies and just these partners, we have the same thing like in Israel in 2010, an American national was there was died of a some as the UN called it a summary execution. You are being part of a flotilla to help uh like refugees but again that didn't i don't think there's a single person unless you're really interested in this area of of like the world that would that would have heard that in the u.s because that's the other part because

it's all like the other thing it's all tied to capital so it's all fucked up right um well speaking of all fucked up uh c-pack happened last weekend uh trump had his if his uh going on on the phone on fox news for a whole evening talking about the legacy of rush limbaugh uh didn't count as his official coming out coming back into the media spotlight this certainly did he had the keynote or like the final climactic speech at cpac and you know the next morning monday morning barely on the front page of fox news or drudge i don't know like i think part of the problem for him is that he doesn't have any new messaging like because personally like he can't he can't move on from losing the election and that he can't move on from hillary yeah exactly uh and also not having twitter yeah you know just amazing just night and day after that one

like one action that also could have happened a really long time ago. But that's neither here nor there. And I think it's... There does seem to be a movement in terms of... He's still at 97% job approval with the attendees of CPAC, but only 68% said they want him to run again in 2024, even though he basically announced he was going to during his speech and also announced that he's staying with the Republican Party. But I just don't think,

I think there's some movement in this, like as it becomes more and more of an accepted reality that he lost and you can't really, there's no evidence that there was cheating. Like even now, like Newsmax can't even say that, uh, the voting machines were, were rigged. So it's like, I just think he's playing a weaker and weaker hand as, as long as he stays on this current note, which I don't know if his, uh, sucking like hole where his, you know, sense of self goes is going to allow him to move on from an L like that. So I just they have some kind of agreement, you know, for him to say I'm staying with the party.

Sounds like something I would have negotiated if I was the RNC. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? I would have negotiated if I was the RNC. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? And like what the terms of that is, which is, OK, we'll continue to try and fucking protect you. But like, just stop saying wild shit, because the other thing, too, is like out of CPAC,

there were a few different, you know, like Rick Scott, who I was surprised the senator of Florida, he was like Biden won fair and square. Just so we know. Yeah, I'm just going to say that out loud here at CPAC. But then there are other Republican politicians, too,'re saying like we're we're past trump like yes he's part of the republican party but the party can't anymore no longer be about one person because that actually affects the ability of every other candidate to be elected and i think maybe that's like the one thing they're taking from this is just like just we got to allow the party to be elected. And I think maybe that's like the one thing they're taking from this is just like, just we got to allow the party to be amorphous enough that their first thing isn't it's whatever

Donald Trump is, because that's their that's their that's their brand issue at the moment. And of course, there's like a lot of talk of splitting the party now, which feels like such a reality. It's so hard for me to imagine. I mean, a winning again but b just sort of like and maybe i shouldn't say that because that's like some 2016 shit right but i don't know it just feels like i don't i i don't see a pathway to success i mean do you guys agree with that or do you think i'm being naive i i think it's hard to see right now but he's i think he's still the most dangerous candidate on either side because he's got this massive base that is impervious to polling and facts and he's the he's now the default candidate who gets to benefit from the anyone but the guy in office uh vote and i feel like that's a scary world because

he has such massive name recognition um and all he has to do is like find new talking points and like i feel like we're at a very low tide moment right now because he has been unable to move on from losing and everybody knows he lost. And so he just looks kind of ridiculous. But to to again, to only like 32 percent of the people. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know.

You know, I can. I will never say never when it comes to him and his political. He's going to cause a lot more problems. You know, like there's a lot more potential, I think, for violence and sort of like commanding different actions because it's like, you know, it's like cognitive dissonance. People are never going to give up. I mean, people do. But the hardcore ones, it would cause so much distress to try to change that stance after, you know, the last five years of their lives being dedicated to this charismatic leader. It's really, really hard. But that we saw him lose by so much.

It would be really like you said, he'd have to revise talking points. But it would it would all hinge again on, like you said, like not Hillary or not Joe Biden. But I don't I just don't see it unless there's some bombshell. But Hillary was just so, there's so much tied in with her and Biden is just kind of like, you know. Yeah, there he is.

Yeah, I think the one thing is CPAC, they definitely, the masks are all gone now. Yeah. They're all gone. They have no masks anymore. That stage is still on. yeah they're all gone yeah they have no masks anymore they're just on dude the stage is a fucking nazi rune yeah or one of those rune symbols that they right there's no

other explanation is there another i just as an american history person it doesn't matter how many people did that pass through yeah it doesn't i'll say this it doesn't matter what they intended or didn't and if that was an accident because ruin Nazi stage or not, their their entire schedule and speaking events were filled with anti-democratic wannabe autocracy. down like how do we win elections when we can't win elections or like how to wiggle rig elections because y'all the clock is ticking and if we're gonna be a part of this we're gonna have to switch our entire system of governance in this country for us to be able to have a shot at ruling so with that democrats really need to be like oh i saw that over the weekend assholes right and i'm not dealing with any of y'all we're this just so you know if i mean this is a quote-unquote representative democracy but if you have one party who's out to

be like oh yeah we're we're the we're here for not this like we're actually here to try and nickel and dime the local constitutions and laws for it to be essentially this minority ruled autocracy or whatever who's president you gotta fucking deal with them like that rather than being like oh you know i'm sorry i'm together it's just there there's a lot there's a lot going on on that side it's like no dude there this is what it is so now you have to actually address the threat properly yeah the one messaging uh that seemed to be consistent top to bottom was trying to fight back against mail-in voting and only sick people

or people... You have to go through all these steps to legally vote by mail, which obviously benefits the Republican Party. Which is wild because... But they don't want people to

jump through hoops to buy a gun right yeah yeah yeah uh oh that's too much that's too much but if you vote we all look we can all agree you need to be able-bodied uh be able to walk have a job that will let you off like no but that's how that's how so transparent this shit is and i wish the like everyone who's responsible for like reporting it like on a massive scale and in a leadership level would be like we have to really talk about what this is objectively and they can go and try and part like mince their words and shit but like what we're looking at is this this is what it is there's a legacy of this this is not new this is it's been every voting has been an issue in every civil rights movement even if it's like quiet right it's been it's always been why wouldn't it be a focal point and why wouldn't it be something that is an

obsession because it is the expression of the people which can be manipulated and has been since 1619 right and before probably you know with with landowners and all that bullshit but like it's not i just don't think it's it's not surprising and it's just as everything is is just now quiet and insidious and and not quite so loud as it maybe was before. I don't know. I feel like it is louder, right? Because you feel like the Civil Rights Act in 64, that helped white people be like, okay, we have to de-racialize a lot of our racism because that didn't work.

You see what happened? We overplayed that hand and now they have more rights than we wanted them to have. So a lot of school choice shit and all this other stuff started coming out because they couldn't they had they had to let go of those words they've now fully like it's like they're coming back around to it in like a very less elegant way where it's like the most charged dog whistle language that like at least school choice might confuse somebody right you know what i mean because it sounds like freedom yeah exactly but

the other shit that they're saying is so like on on its nose you're like are y'all even like have you learned or you're just being like this is now they've completely are like no we're just relying on our worst habits and instincts now and that's all this that's all it was too but now in a way that we don't even know how to finesse appearing in public yeah i mean dog whistling from a stage that looks like a nazi rune it's not whistling right it's kind of it's kind of hard that's more dog dog uh even with like school choice like you said that is such a dog whistle of tax exemption like back to and it's just so weird how we don't talk about the moral majority and the fact that like abortion was a like a created manufactured period like it was a manufactured outrage

evangelicals didn't care in fact they more supported it because they hated catholics but it was like you know it was the tax exemption was they didn't want to desegregate their schools but they didn't want to lose their tax exemptions. So they were able to mobilize a conservative Christian vote for the first time in a really long time through abortion. But it was all hiding the fact that they wanted to not have to desegregate their schools. And this is in the 70s, 80s. And that's hidden. It's a hidden thing. And it's covered by school choice, tax exemption, religious freedom, all these things that we still hear. But that used to be an issue of segregation. And like Bob Jones University, you couldn't date interracially until the year 2000.

And they still kept their tax exemption. They used Reagan to try to do it. I mean, this is like it's not the same thing as voting, but it's like we're talking about. It's like these dog whistles have such history and you may not know it, but it still can like trigger these sort of like ingrained, ingrained shit we all have. The Boston, the desegregation of Boston public schools and the just incredible amounts of rioting and violence and just open war in the streets that happened around that is one of those stories that everybody should go read if you haven't because it's like one of those ones where I heard it in my 30s and I was like

that how is this one of the how is this not one like an entire section of US history but it's because it deals with race relations and they like to yeah anything that makes that issue at the forefront of u.s history they like to it's just so uncomfortable it just makes me so

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the and then he reiterated that over the weekend at CPAC this is all based around a disclaimer brief disclaimer that has been added to the beginning of some of the episodes of the Muppet show it was just added to Disney Plus because some of them have extremely racist

puppet characters that are still in the show that's what he was talking about they said hey y'all extremely racist puppet characters that are still in the show. That's what he was talking about. They said, hey, y'all, there's some wild ass racist puppets in here. We're sorry, just so you know. And he's like- That's exactly right.

That equals cancellation somehow. Exactly. But that's true. Awareness equals cancellation. Awareness, accountability, because it's not cancel, it's accountability. That's what it is.

It's so black and white to them. It's like something's either good or bad, period. So it's like if there's a critique, then it's as if it is entirely bad versus just like, here's a bad thing. Here's, you know, the Muppets saying, we're sorry about this. This isn't good. But it's still even on there, which whatever you can say about that. But, you know, it's still they're giving sort of an acknowledgement and it's still even on there which whatever you can say about that but i you know it's still they're giving sort of an acknowledgement and it's just whatever the guy's such a fucking doink

yeah but i mean it's across the board uh also sorry one episode features johnny cash performing in front of a giant confederate flag and they left that in there their disclaimer these stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now rather than remove this content we want to acknowledge its harmful impact learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together um fox just uh latched on to this non-story using it as yet more evidence of cancel culture one of the hosts on fox and friends said i don't remember the muppets ever being offensive here we are again with cancel culture uh and in an interview with tom cotton they asked him about it because why ask a sitting us senator a non-puppet based question in the middle of a deadly pandemic um and the the amazing thing our writer jam points out that if anyone's been trying to

cancel the muppets it's conservatives like for a long time uh right when their newest movie uh the muppets came out in 2011, Fox News aired the segment. Are liberals trying to brainwash your kids against capitalism? Because the villain of The Muppets was a sleazy oil executive creatively named Tex Richmond. But yeah, one of the hosts on Fox questioned why the filmmakers couldn't simply have made the villain be someone from the Obama administration. And I quote, I just wish liberals could leave little kids alone. Why couldn't the Muppets have the evil person be the Obama administration? So the entire Obama administration. Then in 2015, this was a real headline on breitbart miss piggy comes out as pro-abortion this was because miss piggy was given an award for some reason and when asked

if she was pro-choice she responded i am pro everything which again not really a progressive like it's yeah it's uh that's that's the most both sidesy shit you could say miss piggy yeah and i'm with everybody everybody uh but the one million moms i cannot believe they still exist i didn't know that yeah they launched a boycott of the puppets abc show which was more adult oriented but i mean come, come on. Um, so it's, it's not even a double standard. Yeah. Find a new angle asshole.

Uh, well, you know that Sesame street, obviously we, we didn't have a so-called children's programming about public education and Sesame street was super Jim Henson, obviously influence. And it was just a bunch of radical people getting together to try to make,

uh, And it was just a bunch of radical people getting together to try to make television specifically for children of color to see some reflection of their own experiences. And it was really radical. And there were things called like hidden curriculum. Like there were black psychologists working on this show to sort of just give like just a little bit back to to to children who weren't white. And it was huge. It was outrageous. I mean, there was the pushback was enormous. It was banned in different states literally because they said things like Mississippi's not ready for this diverse of a cast. So it's like I know it's not the Muppets, but it's Muppet adjacent. So it's just like it's just the Muppets, but it's Muppet adjacent. Adjacent, yeah. So it's just like, yeah, it's just. Muppet adjacent.

The Muppets, Jim Henson was always, I mean, he's a hippie. You know, he was always anti, you know, he's always been kind of an anti-capitalist and anti-whatever. Pro-everything. Yeah. Not pro-everything. No, no, no. Hold on, Peggy. Don't say that.

No. All right, all right, all right. Yeah. No, no, no. Hold on, Peggy. Don't say that. No. All right, all right, all right. And finally, while we have you, Chelsea, I do want to talk about this latest video game,

Panic, which seems like it's a headline from 10 years before this show started. But an Illinois Democrat wants to fight crime with a video game ban uh which video game you may ask grand theft auto of course okay did grand theft auto come back in some way like did it become mobile so it's just literally from however many years ago we had the same fucking grand theft auto game over like three consoles now yeah ps3 ps4 and that's just on ps5 i'm sick of ground i don't even look at that motherfucker anymore i don't know i've shot down a lot of helicopters with a lot of i mean who has rocket launchers and i haven't done that yet and you get on the train and they can't catch you because you're on the

train tracks and the ai and the cops is stupid so they never they can never touch you i get it and you can like bar yourself in a store and wait for the five stars to hit you yeah right and then you're out what's the logic though of what why is this person in the year of our lord 2013 now thinking like we gotta get hold on have you guys seen grand theft auto there's been a rise in car theft and carjackings over the last uh year which uh literally nobody is surprised by because the economy has completely shit the bed and also everybody's wearing masks around people are like yeah of course it's like we're gonna see that we could have told you that's way up everywhere yeah so this is out of illinois where uh colonel david bird of the illinois state police uh blamed it on uh there's a social media aspect of it uh he said kids steal cars and

evade police in order to impress their friends presumably there was like a single instance of that that made the local news uh and then one of their local politicians said this carjacking is something out of a video game and that was all he needed to try and propose this bill it would include a one thousand dollar fine for those who sell or rent these games uh again proving that it was designed in 2008 you can rent these games right uh-huh yep i'll shut down this blockbuster i tell you yeah the moral panic is such a bipartisan event you know yeah it's so by and it's so many times like democrats and republicans it'll be like the one thing that they unite over is some kind of moral panic and uh it's like columbine this happened during columbine all the shooting video games and uh i mean it's happened

every time every time every time anything bad happens it's because it's the teens one you can blame the teens and then you can blame this thing that actually has nothing to do with it so then you don't have to deal with systemic issues you can just point to this fucking dumb ass thing that's more fun to blame that's for sure you know it's like so much more cinematic than than systemic poverty and all the different things parents who are a big part of your audience or voter base are already inherently suspicious of their kids so you know i've met enough parents or like you know known enough parents growing up who are like just are dying for this sort of shit yeah because exist these moral panics are half born out of a you don't you actually don't want to address the real issue

of a given thing and the other one is you're so out of touch that you just connected the first dot and you're like yeah that's what it was it's this game so you're saying there's a lot of crimes of grand theft auto that we're experiencing a lot of charges of grand theft auto yeah oh my god karen get in here there's a game called grand theft auto that's what we have to go after the last big grandft Auto release was 2013. They did see an uptick of sales during the pandemic, but they sold far more games in previous years in which there was not a theft and carjacking uh except it's completely based on just once again proof that uh the people interpreting uh crime statistics shouldn't be the police because they do the the worst job of it um so the cops uh painted this picture of roving juvenile gangs uh instagramming their joy rides but of the 1416 carjackings that were reported in chicago only 188 people were arrested

106 of them were kids so if you're taking that as a overall sample of all 1500 carjackings, uh, you would have some evidence, but it could be that kids aren't as good at car theft and are more likely to post it on social media. Maybe, uh, then it's like a first time.

Yeah. They're just getting popped the first time. Yeah. Right. Then you learn after that one, but like the idea too, of just trying to be be like they're doing it to be on Instagram. Like these are crimes of swag, not crimes of survival. Yes.

Nobody steals a fucking car for the thrill. I mean, I guess maybe they just watch New Jersey Drive or that movie from the 90s or some shit. But like there's you do it because you need to make money and that's how you're going to make money because you're for many people your only financial recourse is extra legal activity right because there are no there's no way for you to survive anymore but let's not talk about what the options are for these people let's say these teens are throwing on a filter to look like a little kitty cat and then taking your Tesla. It's just it's out of control.

To your point, Miles, another thing besides grand theft auto sales that have gone up in the last year, which, again, grand theft auto sales ticked up a little bit, not didn't sell as many copies as previous years. On the other hand unemployment in illinois has gone up by a whopping 675 percent uh and illinois's unemployment offices have been closed for the entire year meaning people who lack access to online services or run into technical problems are pretty much fucked. So, yeah. It's just all to avoid a real fucking problem. Yep.

And I mean, the racial dynamics aside of this story, like it's so simple. I mean, like you don't need to be a fucking detective to be like, wait, people, usually people steal

because you don't have. Oh, there's an uptake, uptick in people you don't have oh there's an uptake uptick in people who don't have that's probably what it is and also grand theft auto trust me the people who bought that it's motherfuckers like me who got suckered into buying it for the fucking third time it's not new people getting into grand theft auto it's like fuck i don't have it on this console i guess i gotta give Rockstar more fucking money for this game. That's, I mean, I would love to see the statistic on the number of newcomers to GTA 5

in those numbers, but that's more of a gamer statistic I would like to see. Yeah. And this is exactly what happened with, with, as I mentioned, like Columbine and, and the school shootings

into this last decade is the exact same thing. It was the shooting video games and that was, you know, so we didn't have to deal with guns and that was Democrats and Republicans. It's just this way to have a flashy, you know, sleight of hand. I think of it as a sleight of hand and I don't know how intentional it is or how much these people are just, you know, fucking stupid and totally out of touch, like you said, and how much of it could be not, I don't want to say a conspiracy, but, you know, I think there's something to that. And especially when you're trying to get reelected, your platform is going to be a lot more flashy

and interesting to people if the story is, you know, the teens aren't all right versus we have massive unemployment and poverty. Right. It's not. I'm surprised Republicans didn't blame the uprisings on NBA 2K. Like by that logic, what the fuck are you talking about? Like look at the

problem. Also like you know we have too many of these assholes who are not there to actually change outcomes for people. They're just there to win office and stay in office and that's it. That's it. I mean this is an example of somebody being bad at uh doing the like politically you know shrewd and uh calculating thing uh and but i think there's plenty of examples that we're not talking about because they don't necessarily

cross our radar and such a don't like splat against our radar the way this one would. But, yeah, I mean, it's this seems to be a good indicator of what the underlying logic is in in Congress. Definitely. Chelsea, it has been such a pleasure having you as always being on. Thank you, guys. It's so much fun. Where can people find you and follow you? Well, you can go and listen to our show, American Hysteria, on pretty much any podcast app, or you can follow us at Amerhysteria on Twitter or American Hysteria podcast on Instagram. And is there a tweet or some of the work of

social media you've been enjoying? Well, you know, I kind of buried the lead, but I think just for me, it was Oreos. Trans people exist. I just I just want to say thank you. When was that? So brave. Got a few days ago. I don't know. It was like during the potato folks coming out as as trans. like during the potato folks coming out as trans um but that's that's just been a memorable memorable one for me yeah i remember that i think that was right after their tweet about fred hampton jr yeah exactly yeah they're like can you imagine though why is it that when they connect poor people of color and poor white people thing outcomes change for these civil rights leaders anyway get the new double stuffed oreos yeah that's a that's

some people do not want anybody to know yep which is odd because like you could just be like hi every single the people that got never mind the way the way we win is together our new our new uh rainbow coalition oreo where you open it up and uh it's a rainbow inside oh my god just it's coming don't tell them they're listening words uh miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying oh man twitter instagram miles of gray also their podcast for 20 day fiance where we're chatting 90 day uh tweet i like this is from reductress because it's just so absurd but somehow like i it's resonating with me uh it's a photo of like two two people talking one person is just like sort of clearly listening to the other speak but was sort of like a like vacant eyes and the text how to pretend you were listening

by answering hey macarena in a neutral tone hey macarena can you believe that shit jack hey macarena okay yeah all right i knew you i knew you were on my side hey Macarena I mean hey Macarena I once was caught by my friends way too late after that song was no longer cool just very drunk on a dance floor doing the Macarena

was not my proudest moment hey Macarena hey Macarena indeed hey Macarena. Hey, Macarena, indeed. Hey, Macarena. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Aaron Chak tweeted, yeah, the moon is full.

Full of shit. It was a very nice full moon over the weekend. Shout out to the moon. And Mike Ginn tweeted, it would be crazy if every oncoming headlight you saw on the freeway was its own person with their own life. But thank God that's not the case.

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Miles, what song are people checking out today? They're going to check out, look, you need some good drumming. You want some Naya Bingy drumming. If you really fuck with the reggae sounds, get into that. But this track is called Lambs Bread Kali. And it's lambs, L-A-M-B-S, bread, B-R-E-A-D, Kali, C-O-L-L-I-E, like Kali. And the artist is Cedric I'm Brooksoks and the light of saba and it's just like look i was i was saying off mic i got some musical equipment i've been going through

some old records and things things i want to sample i was really looking at this album's great because it's got a lot of deep grooves in it um but this is for anybody who just you know needs a little heavy heavy sound to start your week this will help you but also you know, needs a little heavy, heavy sound to start your week. This will help you. But also, you know, very enlightening. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning.

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