The Daily Zeitgeist - Me & Those Trending Eyes Of Zeit 10/14: Israeli Ceasefire, MTG, 'Tron: Ares', Magic 8-Ball, Diane Keaton, D'Angelo

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

In this edition of Me & Those Trending Eyes Of Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Donald Trump bringing "peace" to the middle east, MTG doing what democrats won't, 'Tron: Ares' underwhelming at the box office, M. Night Shyamalan's upcoming 'Magic 8-Ball' tv show, the passing of Diane Keaton & D'Angelo and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcast. I was looking on the weather app, and yesterday's like oh the high 70 is like this is it we're crossing over i the way i put a sweatsuit on and walked outside into direct fucking sunlight and it was like like on some sinner shit like the absolute dump i was i'm just so fucking excited to wear winter clothing or things that are not t-shirts you have the opposite of those like snap off basketball warmups there's snap on in reverse. Just play that clip and her majesty. Her majesty looks, it turns to you two seconds later and you're already in a sweatsuit. But wait, what the fuck? I came out. It's only going

up to 70 tomorrow, babe. But now with the rain, I'm like, ooh. The rain is nice. I needed this. A little rain jacket. People driving slow. The roads are empty. There's no leaf blowers going off. I've been barred from buying jacket or pre-fire. I was barred from buying jackets because they're like my favorite. Like, after shoes, I like a jacket. I didn't have that many, but like, I

always wanted like a big, puffy down jacket. I didn't really have one. And right before the fire, I bought one. And now it's gone. So now I'm like back on my shit and, you know, bro, he's like, what if we found out you stuff? You better not buy them. You better not buy more. I'm like, well, but then I go,

but I have none. She's like, I got. None. You got me? What if we found out you set the fire just to... Buy more jackets? Give yourself an excuse to buy more jackets and shoes. Trying to do it so I don't know. I didn't have the courage to tell my wife that I wanted to move the difference.

That is like some Tim Robinson shit. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah, but it starts off innocent. Like I was trying to do something like a small fire just from house. And then it gets totally out of... Yeah, exactly. Damn, babe. My jacket.

part of my closet burnt up. And then like the rest of West off the team. Dude, damn. It's crazy. Maybe they'll fucking find the fucker who did this. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of

their daily sightguise. Yeah. Oh, horny, yeah. Coming from my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Aye, aye. I'm in the building and it's and it's soaking wet because it's finally raining here in L.A. It is raining.

L.A. doesn't know how to act, but I'm here for it. I always thought they drove too slow for the rain. I was like people in L.A. are just freak out. But then the roads are slippery as fuck when it rains here because it's just like covered in that fine dust. Of like motor oil and stuff. Yeah, it's just. gasoline yeah so don't be a hero out there LA just drive slowly enjoy the rain enjoy the increased visibility enjoy seeing uh seeing that we live next to mountains uh you know yeah which you can't

which you can't see most of the time um no no it's because a little thing called smog or some shit but it's fine nah not no air smells good though it does it's clean um my name is jack o'brien uh this is the episode of our show where we tell you what was trending over the weekend, what's trending on this Tuesday morning, a long weekend off for Indigenous People's Day. But first, we like to let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you some things that we think is overrated and underrated. Miles, you want to kick us off with something you think?

Underrated. What did I put? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a fine line with toilet paper. and water pressure, where you go from the perfect thickness or water pressure and easily into too thick of toilet paper or too strong of water pressure. And I think it's just something to think about. I was talking about this last week when I was in D.C. off mic, because my mother-in-law

has, like, like the, I don't even know if luxurious is the way to describe it, the thickest toilet paper i've ever fucking used and it was freaking me i felt like i was not worthy of it it was so thick it felt like bed sheets yeah yeah and i was like what the comforters yeah yeah like a down comfort like is like is there down in this yeah okay i didn't realize downy changed their whole thing but yeah it was so uh i don't know like i i it was jarring and i'm so used to people have heard my toilet paper exploits over the life supply of shitty toilet paper yeah yeah finally got through it. I upgraded to like one more ply, which is still like, you know, like I would call it journeyman toilet paper. Yeah, you know. Replacement level toilet paper.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like utility toilet paper. But this shit was like definitely like boomer approaching retirement thickness. And it was for whatever reason, I was like, this is actually bad. It's too thick and I don't like it. To that end, also, and I'm not just complaining about my mother-in-law's house. At all. No, it's not about it. There's nothing to do with her. Because actually, I took a shower at another friend's place in D.C. The water pressure almost ripped my fucking skin off. Wow. And I love a strong spray.

That's something we all know about you. You love a strong spray. You know everybody knows why I like. You sit outside of the bathroom when I go pee and you compliment me on the strength of my spray. With a cup to the door. Because I like to really accentuate the sound and the acoustics. But just like straight fire hose shit. You're like getting pushed back.

Yeah, yeah. I always have like civil rights era flashbacks and shit. I thought a German Shepherd was going to bite me. I was like, you're low in a like athletic stance and it's just pushing you back against the wall. Your feet are just like squeaking on the bottom of the shower. Close up on my feet, just sliding.

That's all you can conjure, you bastard. But yeah, it was, it's a fine line. But again, I have my conversation with God, like Lieutenant Dan in the storm scene and force going.

That is my promise. I will make a forest gump reference every, every day, even though I don't like that movie. This is our, yeah, like Superman references in Seinfeld. You always got to catch the forest gump reference in every episode. Yeah. We have some water pressure issues in our house where, like, they're very inconsistent. Sometimes I'll be like, all right, got to hop in the shower real quick before we record. And it's just like dribbling.

It's an old man's, uh, weak stream coming out of the shower. Tom Hanks, Green Mile. Yeah, it just like goes on and off. We've tried to work on it. There's like a pressure gauge, like outside of the house that you can like mess with a little bit. So it's, we cranked that up a little bit. Didn't really help that much with the water pressure on the second floor. But what it did do is like the hose on our sink.

It was like too much for the hose on our sink. And it like broke before. Hey, plumbing sight game. Let Jack know. What does he got to do? Yeah. I mean, I've been told that we need to like replace the pipes. Yeah, yeah, you got to hold their house.

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Probably we do. I don't know. Maybe I'll just turn up the volume at the main water line. There's just shit. Wake this fucker up a little bit. Yeah. All right.

My underrated is the sea hare, which is an animal that I took the scouts for people who don't know. I'm the scout leader for my seven-year-old Cubs scout troop took them out to the tide pool's last weekend and they found a sea hair in the tide pool, which is like a, I was calling it a sea slug before I knew, but it's like a big lump of like dark snot. But it's got adorable little antennae like pointing out of their little like bulbous head lump. Is it amorphous or it has like a slug like a tubular? It's like a blob. It's like a blob. it's tubular ish but tubular man

yeah it's it's tubular man it's uh it's trying to be tubular you know it looks like it is a sea slug that's out of shape a little bit okay okay but then it's got the obseason zion off season zion versus in season zion

yeah coming back it's but then the little antennae pointing out of it popping out of its head make it really cute that's why they call it the sea hair um so I was like we saw a sea slug and then one of the dads had his little nature book on him. He was like, actually, that's the sea hair. And he found out they lay up to 80 million eggs per capita.

And then the eggs and the larvae are basically sitting ducks for predatory animals. And so they get gobbled up. But if they weren't, if like, you know, the oceans, I don't know, got too warm and the predators were like staying in the depths. And if all those larvae lived, the animals go on to double in weight every 10 days for three months until they're like some of the largest gastropods on the planet. Some can get as big as 31 pounds.

But the book was like, it was an older like nature book. So I don't know if they, I think they were doing this hypothetically. Because they were like not, not this would ever happen. But if the predators didn't eat all those eggs, these animals would basically suffocate the ocean.

They would be like, if they all lived, they would be half the mass of the planet. Jesus. They're just like so fucking many of them. And they get so big, so fast. So I don't know. Interesting lesson on. That was a journey that underrated.

I first I was like, all right, you saw a sea hair. And then I'm like, they could suffocate the ocean. They could suffocate the ocean. Undeterred. Yeah. If we weren't just gobbling them shits up. That's what I was doing out there. The kids were exploring the tide pools.

I was, Hey, hey, look. This was not so tough. hey man we've talked before uh darwin in addition to like finding and you know taking home different animal species uh and like documenting what they look like and all that he would taste them he would eat them i gotta have a bite baby got what that tastes like it's just driven by this guy being hungry as fuck was it wasn't he wasn't driven by like trying to discover the next beef right or something he's like ah be god i'm not going to be able to sell that this sucks

This one fucking sucked. Yeah, he ate like Galapagos turtles and shit. He just ate that's like a thing that they were eating up there. Nothing. Oh, like, leave me alone. It's just like back there on the, whatever his boat was called, just tucking in for a meal after every day of discovery. The Beagle.

Yeah, the Beagle. Also, underrated, just wanted to shout out Mark Mare and last episode ever of WTF. dropped yesterday. Oh, man. I feel like it's 2012. I don't know, man. Great run. A little disappointed

as the last episode was a return to Obama. But all in all, it's been cool to have somebody who is, I don't know, generally his politics are in the right place

and, you know, I feel like he could, he could have, like, he's a good interviewer. I feel like he could have gone like even more into the Terry Gross lane and stopped doing celebrities only and just doing like the most interesting people in the world but um whatever he's

moving on to his next act which appears to be just talking shit about right wing shithead comedians so i mean that was kind of his thing before too a lot of people would always describe merrin as like a hater because he was always coming at other successful comedians for like some shit but in this instance when i see that a lot of people like he's back to his like hater ways. I'm like, but he has a point, like, hater or not. Like, this is, he, he should be rightfully pointing out, like, how far comedians have just, like, lost their fucking way. And it's just wild again to see

you think like a good comedian, right, is still tethered to earth and understands what the general experiences of every, typically your audience, right? Like, you go to a club and regular people who are coming in for a laugh to try and relate to your humor. But, like, when you hear some of these defenses that people have given to performing in Riyadh, you're like, oh, you fucking, you're, you've become actually too wealthy or too comfortable or too insulated socioeconomically.

Yeah. That you have no fucking clue how the rest of us are talking about shit. And then you go, eh, it's a bunch of, like, Bill Burr's like, what's a sac, sanctimonious fucking hate or just shut the fuck up, you too, bro. Like, you fucking, unreal. He's just only hearing one side of it, which is the side of his, like, managers and people being like, this is going to make you a lot of fucking money. and the people want it over there.

So you're good. And then Aziz Ansari was like, I'll give the money back, dude, that I got from the Saudis, bro. I'll give it back. And then like, I feel like one of those like human rights, I think maybe the human rights council.

One of those groups was like, we are not taking Saudi money. Right. Like, like, like, I like where your heart's at, but like that's like

the most backwards thing is just to give us money from the people that are perpetrating the transgressions. Do you hang on to this drug money for me, man? Sorry, dude. Just hang on this chabo drug money. new name.

I also, like, he had a big, one of the big, early episodes of his was like him and Louis C.K. Where they, like, you know, had a falling out somewhere earlier in their career. And then they, like, made up. And I feel like a lesser comedian or someone who wasn't quite as about his shit as Marin, like, would have had a hard time being like, oh, this guy fucking sucks after that. But he just, like, completely turned on him. Like, I was listening to him talk about, uh, in an interview. You talk about Louis C.K., like, ditching him at some screening and just, like, being like, yeah, the guy's fucking asshole.

Oh, I fuck that. Yeah. It's wild when people do like that kind of little, like, not that it's little shit, but like, like, those kinds of things that are subtle, but you're like, oh, yeah, you're actually suck, bro. You just, you're going to bounce on somebody. Right. Yeah. He invited him to a screening, dropped him off. And was like, yeah, so you should be good.

They'll let you in and then like left immediately. And he thought like, oh, we were going to have like a hang, me and my friend. You thought. And he was just like, no, I just thought you'd be a cool person to show up with. Anyways, that's what we think is underrated. Yeah. On this Tuesday, October 14th, Miles. What is something you think is overrated?

Overrated my 41-year-old knee pain. I also have another one. I'm only saying this because every time I describe an ailment, Zykegang usually comes through with some kind of tip. My, I don't know what the fuck. I'm doing stairs, baby. I feel in shape. Yeah.

But then it's a certain point when I started squat. And when you sit on the toilet, you know how like if you, if your legs are strong, you can let yourself down on the toilet. I'm having to be like, like, locked down because at a certain point, my knees hurt. But I still don't have trouble going up or downstairs. I'm trying to figure out if I have quadriceps tendonitis, some kind of butchelotend issue or something. I don't think it's a meniscus tear. But anyway, it's just a repetitive stress injury from how much you're sitting down on the toilet, just sitting down over and over again. Could be.

I mean, I mean, my cartologist. tunnel for taking the shit. My proctologist says, I got to sort it out, man. He's like, I can tell through your pants, you are sitting down way too much on the toilet. I can see it through your pants. I can see it from the front, baby. But anyway, that's what.

I like when a doctor says, hey, man, you got to sort this shit out on your own, man. It's between you and God. I like a doctor who kind of treats you like a best friend who has medical advice, but has terrible bedside manner. Anyway, my real overrated, getting bit up by mosquitoes when you are indoors at a restaurant

is probably the most infuriating fucked up experience for me personally I could have again I was in DC with Jamel Johnson I don't know if Jamel's been on psych guys he's been on Boosties before he's probably been on Zikey's really funny community he's from DC he was out there at the same time so we watch an Arsenal match and then we went out to go get some lunch at this spot and it wasn't like a fancy spot

it was like a really amazing sandwich place but it was inside and we were getting bit the fuck up by mosquitoes the doors were closed and we were like what the fuck like we were swatting it was

I looked like that Uncle Jama's mash liquor commercial from S&L that Tracy Morgan in in the late 90s timely reference for our audience but anyway I'm swatting that shit and getting bit and I was like this is for whatever reason this feels like an absolute violation, like to pay money to eat indoors should be a mosquito-free

experience. And I don't think that's asking a lot. Yeah. This goes back to the founding father's decision to put the nation's capital on a fucking swamp. Exactly. This is on them. This is on those slavers again. So you had two black men getting bit up by mosquitoes in the nation's capital when they're paying for fantastic sandwiches. And you're out here swatting like a teenage edge lord in 2018 you know what I'm saying way better way better

way better yeah exactly yeah that sucks the mosquito I do feel like that's I mean we're seeing mosquitoes in the Los Angeles area that we didn't use to like the spread of mosquitoes and the 80s Egypt die

specifically is the species bad all right my overrated is this new is basically candy cigarettes but for nitrous um we so we uh had a school camping trip this weekend i'm not usually this outdoors outdoorsy but yeah did tide pools last week and then uh my kids school does a camping trip every every year um this is our fifth one entire school up through like sixth grade you know goes to

this one campgrounds and then the kids just like run wild like it's a animal habitat for feral children. Oh, like, looking like Nell, the Jody Foster movie? You're just hearing shit. Like, as you're going to sleep, you're just hearing people, just hearing people, like, getting into fights and just fucking going, going nuts.

I'm a tay in the win, Miss Gipi. 6-7 was a lot of what I was hearing. But one of the sort of icons of this camping event every year is there's a, the camp store at the bottom of the hill,

which is known amongst the kids as the candy shop because they keep that shit stocked with the latest innovations in like dumb wonkery, you know? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. People are doing, people are putting the research, the R&R into candy these days, in a way that I wasn't aware of,

but obviously like kids are up on it. And so two years ago, like the big hit was toilet candy, which is a toilet bowl with like two lollipops on either side and then in the toilet bowl is like the dip in you know the sour sugar candy you know oh got it got okay you have the lollipop and then you dip it into the fun dip yeah yeah exactly but presumably you know brilliantly exploiting the skibbity ohio of it all at a time right as that's cresting this year the the hit candy that everybody's running around with is a little canister where you're basically like spraying a stream of sour candy juice in your mouth, which I don't know.

I don't have a lot of experience with nitrous. It's called quick blast sour candy spray. That doesn't even sound fun. Quick blast sour candy spray. What the fuck? You know, what the fuck is this? Yeah. And it's, it occurred, you know, we've talked on here.

about the rise of galaxy gas being like the popular drug with kids and I'm just like oh this is just candy cigarettes for nitrous like kids are just walking around like firing jet streams of compressed candy gas into their mouths. Yeah. Putting your mouth on a nozzle in a consumption

context is always bad news. When it's like what do you drink a windex? What are you getting a fucking gnauz? What is this? Wow. Yeah. That's actually really frightening to me right now. I really, yeah, I really want some actual journalists out there to like FOIA,

whoever makes this candy, because there's no way that they didn't at least see Mad Max Fury Road and be like, hey, wait a second. We got an idea here. We want our kids looking like the dude strapped to the front of that fucking 18 wheeler playing guitar. That looks fucking sick. I mean, it looks sick, yeah. Like, I do think, like the fact that. that is a like the popular drug that's exploding in popularity with like young people I feel like

it has to have come up in the candy development meetings or they're probably yeah I mean I'm sure all of it it's always about like the delivery mechanism right like it would either be fun dip which felt like in someone it's like stick this chalky tab into a powder and lick it right and then you had like push up push pops and things like this and everything was like how do you just kind of tweak the thing. Yeah, Big League Chew was just chewing tobacco. Shred it in gum form, you know? This is, well, it's interesting too because I think about how, like, when I was in

school, the thing we got really in trouble for was fucking around with pixie sticks and chopping it up. Oh my God, dude. I remember fifth phrase. Wait, were you snorting them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Snorting lines. I remember me and my friend.

Because we were like, you know, we were watching Pulp Fiction and shit. We knew about snorting. Like, we saw us drug snortings. scenes. Yeah. So we were like, oh, one, I remember for Halloween, we were putting it out and we fucking chopped it up with our ruler.

Obviously, just being stupid. And tried a second and went, and we were like, it was so fucking painful. Yeah, probably had a similar reaction to Uma Thurman and Pulp Fiction when she sorts the wrong shit. Yeah, and you're like using two hands

trying to dig it out your nostril or something and then you just go down. Yeah, that was the sensation. And then there was Ravens' Revenge. that was like an escalation on powdered candy. So I wonder if there's always like whatever the drug thing, like what's ever sort of in the culture, they're just like,

how do we replicate this? Even if they don't know, because like I was just reading it about pixie sticks in 2011, like a middle school district banned it because they were seeing kids like mimicking drug use with it. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, whatever. Like is that, like that,

FOIA the candy maker, I want to see, is that a part like a, a admitted strategy that they're using, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. I feel like it has to be. I feel like that it's too, it's too cynical not to be true. Who's behind this?

Yeah. Who's behind this shit? Willie Wonka's out here giving people everlasting gobstoppers. So poor kids have candy always. And these motherfuckers are like, what if we can, like, mimic the drug that they're about to be hooked on when they turn into teenagers. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Yeah. Oof. All right. Those are some things we think are overrated, underrated. We're going to take a quick break, and we're going to come back and talk about the news. We'll be right back. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and, you know, But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

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I don't even know, like, how far in advance do they make the Nobel Peace Prize decision? Because he was trying to cram. He was, like, they were about to announce it. And he was trying to cram a, like, Nobel Peace Prize worthy press hit into the media. he ended up losing the Nobel Peace Prize that he so desperately craved the White House has officially

denounced the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to someone other than Donald Trump. Maria Carina Machado who is a Venezuelan opposition politician has been awarded the prize. Which is also

wild. Like her politics, you're like what is this? Who is this person? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She has basic, she's been like, yeah, bro, Trump, bring the fucking ships to Venezuela. She is 100% like a tool of Western imperialism. Damn.

And it was like courting Netanyahu regularly. Like, it's just one of those things you're like, I was reading a few articles that was just sort of like, what is this even? But at the end of the day, they're giving it out to like, you know, presidents who are also committing war crimes and things. So it's not like, it's not like the most, like the science ones are still like, yo, bro, you did that. Right. Not going to die.

Not going to front. You really did that scientifically. This one is a little bit like, hmm, okay. Good for democracy. Which is why she was thanking Trump when she accepted it. People were like, oh, that's pretty smart of her. It's like, yeah, may or may not be. But she's also 100% like MAGA aligned as in terms of like a Venezuelan politician.

So interesting times. Interesting. Stephen Chung, who's, you know, the Trump's spiciest spokesperson, said the Nobel Committee proved they placed politics over peace. Yeah, man, why do they got to focus on politics when weighing whether to award this person who is a politician for his political work. That was so weird that they would consider what the fuck? What does that even mean? He did sign a ceasefire deal in Egypt after Hamas returned the 20 remaining living hostages in Gaza and Israel released to quote the news reports 250 Palestinian prisoners and over 1,700 detainees from Gaza held by Israel for two years without charge.

If there was only a word other than prisoners or detainees to describe someone who has been unlawfully abducted and held against their will as leverage. Reminds, it rhymes with sausages. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I can't quite put my finger on it. Yeah. But, uh, there,

you know, he did bring peace to the Middle East in the sense that there was like big plastic letters like the size of a man, each letter the size of a man that said peace at the at the signing. So he brought that. How will they know? How will they know? Yeah.

Uh, that's what this, the whole point of this is don't ask about like really, how durable this agreement is or anything else. Just know that we say peace. We're standing in front of peace sign. Mission accomplished. Swish. Probably goes without saying

but as details emerge about what the plan looks like and how it's arrived at, it's dog shit. It's bad for very specifically the Palestinian people. First of all, 19 doctors are still being held by Israel without

charge. Yeah. Like the director of Gaza's Kamal. Adwan Hospital has been held under harsh conditions without charge since December. As spokesperson said, they're being tortured. They're facing violence daily. It's just interesting that doctors are something that they're afraid to release since reports from doctors on what they've witnessed, the violence they've witnessed from the Israeli military firsthand are kind of one of the few types

of eyewitness testimony that we've actually seen breakthrough into the mainstream media, you know like the surgeons from Western countries who saw children with single bullet wounds to the head that have been targeted by snipers like it seems like that is the sort of thing that they're trying to avoid and it seems like this next phase is going to be all about Israel

you know covering up any horrors that they've done so far and then also trying to justify continued occupation I mean it's a strange peace plan when there is really no reckoning with what Israel's done and is doing. And continues to do. Yeah. That's a huge, huge spot that I feel like should be addressed in terms of creating some kind of healing process. Because if it's just sort of like, oh, yeah, we did that.

And now, okay, okay, you guys want to stop. Okay, cool, cool, cool. But we're still going to stick around. Like, as of right now, I mean, like, they've blocked like a lot of aid coming in still because they're like, well, we didn't get all the hostages bodies that you said we're going to get so we're now we're going to like they're already backpedaling on things yeah and again what is what is the process in place because trump's already said there's not he's not going to like he'll act like he didn't hear people and they're like what about a two state solution right yeah i mean to your point like the gaza health

ministry reports 44 killed and 29 injured within the past 24 hours israel just basically kept shooting palestinians and drone striking gaza in lebanon after the peace deal Francesca Albanese, the U.N. special reporter on the occupied Palestinian territory, has condemned Israel's continued killing of Palestinians saying, quote, again, ceasefire according to Israel equals you cease, I fire. Calling it peace is both an insult and a distraction. She's calling for justice, sanctions, divestment, and boycott until occupation, apartheid, and genocide are over. And every crime is accounted for this is the UN's, like, person. in charge of, you know, knowing what is happening on the ground, like one of the few people who has access to what is happening on the ground. Yeah, exactly. But you might be shocked to find out that the foundation of this, quote unquote, peace deal was put together by real estate vultures Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkoff.

Yeah. Kushner's plan is to create a Gaza Riviera in which Palestinians would be reduced to low-wage service workers on their own dispossessed. land while investors and form regimes extract profits. And like even just reading the account of like how it came together. Like on Friday, Kushner heard Hamas would begin talks to release Israeli hostages. And he was like in his mansion in Florida on that like manmade island. Star Island or one of those things.

We're just like all billionaires live. And so he jumped in his car, drove 20 minutes to another mansion owned by Steve Whitcock. off and they just started, like, taking calls from what they call stakeholders, presumably not, you know. Not people, not innocent people who have to live there. Yeah, yeah, but people who want to figure out how they carve that thing up and get their piece. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah.

Well, peace achieved, quote unquote, but not really. I mean, I don't know. We'll see how long this continues, but real rocky start already. Who could have seen that coming from a guy who was just so desperate to just say, I did peace. I did it. Yeah. I mean, Time Magazine on board is their cover story is his triumph with like a low angle hero shot of Donald Trump. Right.

Looking, you know, towering, looking off at the horizon, looking as heroic as he's capable of looking, although he clearly is not loving what he sees in the mirror these days. Yeah. No, no. This photo, I mean, wow, the low angle. They really caught the backlit comb over. You don't want to like the comb over from the back because then you can see is wispy. You know what I mean? It's the whisper song, Halloween spider webs.

But then he posted, he's like, how, why would they do this? He said they, quote, disappeared my hair. Disappeared my hair. No, ma'am. God did that. You know what I mean? Time and God. Take it.

Oh, by the way, the fucking. thing about him now saying, I don't know if I'm going to get into heaven. I didn't, yeah, I didn't hear that. You were mentioning that. Dude, over the weekend, he brought, he brought fucking heaven up again. But this time, it's like, I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'll go to heaven. Really. And here, I'll play this thing.

Because it's, for whatever reason, this is one of the more terrifying things he said. Because before he's like, what's keeping people from doing fucking evil unless it's trying to get into heaven? And now he's like, ah, man, fuck it. But this is him being like, I don't know if I'll go into heaven. I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven. Okay, I'm really, I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I'm maybe in heaven right now as we fly an Air Force one.

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven. I don't know if I don't know if I'm heaven bound. I don't know, folks. I'm kind of a piece of shit. Did he, like, I don't know. Then he also got a little philosophical. He's like, maybe I'm in heaven now. And I'm like, wow. Yeah, damn, son.

But then I'm like, God. I think that's Buddhist. It's reverse Buddhism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Buddhists say you're in hell now. I do a reverse Buddhism. His neck on this picture. Now that he mentions it.

Yeah. You know, it's just like straight line from his tie knot up to the front of his face. And it is, it is hanging like some elderly Floridian white cleavage. Yeah. Bro, his neck looking like Labraham Lincoln right now. That's what I saw. But hey,

projecting power, baby. I mean, it's wild because when you got a tight shirt collar like that, it bunches up all the loose skin, so you're going to get some neck cleavage like that. Yeah, it's like the bottom,

you know, there's the tie knot, and then there's the part of the knot that's being like gathered and has like folds. You know, you're supposed to have that little. And then,

but that's also happening to his neck on the other side. You'd believe looking how wrinkled and thick the tie knot is that it could just be an extension. of his neck skin. Right. Yeah.

It actually adds a nice bit of symmetry. So I feel like this is what he should hire us to be like, actually, like, you're actually looking pretty good in this. Just keep on doing what you're doing. Keep on, man. He's also, his candor, you know, in the case of the peace deal, like, he had that meeting where Marianne Adelson was there. And he was just like, she's got billions of dollars and she's, she's been paid, like, was

just, like, so open about how influential she is through, like, her money, uh, yeah, which kind of, he loves to do that. Yeah, he loves to just, you know, oh, they got so much money. It's crazy. That's right. I love it. Meanwhile, MTG is, uh, continuing to be, be the, like, somewhat part-time resistance. Part-time somewhat. Leader that the Democrats don't have because they refuse to. But even And then not that great, just shocking based on where she's coming. Because she's truly stumbled on this position accidentally. So now she's calling out Republican men because she was saying Mike Johnson was texting her all angry about how she was like, you know, she's, because she said last week, you know, the Republicans could end the shutdown. They's got to get rid of the filibuster and they could pass them with a simple majority.

They've done that already. I don't know what's going on if they really wanted to. And then you can get, and then I think it's for her, she's like, and then we can get those Epstein files. But she was, so she goes on to say, like, they were having this back and forth about ending the filibuster and he said, we can't. So quote, this is he said, quote, he told me they can't do it and it's math. I sent him the article about them doing it yesterday, referring to the Senate, changing its own rules. I said, they just did it. Whereas President Trump has a very strong dominant style, he's not weak at all. A lot of the men here in the House are weak. There's a lot of weak Republican men and they're more afraid of strong Republican women. So they always try to marginalize the strong Republican women that actually want to do something and actually want to achieve. I mean, that's not exactly what's going on with Republicans right now. They've been captured and their cowardice is probably the biggest thing. You're kind of right there.

But it's, I don't know if they're afraid. They clearly don't respect anyone other than white men. Right. Is the other. Yeah, that's true. That would be, that where you would go, you would start treading into woke territory, Marjorie. So you kind of left it there. at being like, these guys are fucking scared.

But I mean, also like- It's just infuriating that the mainstream Democrats are so bad and like paralyzed by the forces of capital that they leave this like obviously popular position to Marjorie Taylor Green to voice, you know? I mean, there are so many ways to sort of defend your stance about shutting the government down. Obviously, a potent one is pointing out to people,

this is going to be terrible for your health care costs. and your ability to be taken care of, which is, I think, fantastic. And there's so many other things, too. You'd be like, you know, also, like, you know, we've seen the polling. It looks like a majority of you guys are horrified at the sight of seeing armed goons, like rip people out of their cars or intentionally crashing their cars into people to apprehend them or the kidnapping of children by mass goons or the goons trying to force their way into people. So there's just a lot of reasons they could point to in terms of why this.

shit needs to be shut down because I think you can also tie a lot of people's outrage into everything that's happening aside from like the specifics of it not to say like you know this is what they need or shouldn't be doing but there's just so many reasons why this government like the way it's operating right now is doing everyone a disservice except for the people who are just trying to you know redistribute the wealth yeah um oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah Ryan, the editor makes a good point. Do we think that Trump ever gets his neck caught in his tie? Like, as he's doing his tie, like, do you think the neck, like, he accidentally pulls his neck down through the knot instead of the tie knot?

No, I'd imagine he's got some kind of system in place. He has, like, paper clip or, like, clips. I think he has someone 95% of the way tie the tie. Because he's, and then he just loops it over his head and then tightens it. That's probably, that's probably right. That's my, that's my theory for him being so rich and not doing stuff on his own. But even then, if you're like doing, you know, tying, tightening the thing and your neck gets like pulled into that little leg. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. You got a something about Mary situation with your time on. How did you get the beans above the Frank? Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about movies. We'll be right back. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

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I'm Ben Westoff, and this is The Peacemaker, a true crime podcast investigating a string of mysterious deaths at a prestigious Missouri University and the fraternity brother at the center of it all. A few years back, two fraternity brothers died by suicide, just weeks apart in shockingly similar ways. Both were discovered by the same student, Brandon Grosheim. laid him down.

Okay. And I tilted his head back and just needed him mouth and mouth in CPR. At first, people gave Brand and the benefit of the doubt. But when three more acquaintances died the following year, the tide turned.

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AI that's like, what if? what if what if the bug in the system is that he's really nice and a i just wants to do nice things for us anyways uh made 33 million at the box office which is way less than people were hoping slash expecting it's a 180 million dollar production which uh you know double that for the cost of marketing and it uh yeah these but first of all tron movies never do well they've never had a good opening. It's not like one battle after another where it's like getting really good reviews

and really good word of mouth and is going to like leg it out and you know, make money over the course of the next five months. It's more one of those like front loaded Marvel movie type things where the people who want to see it probably went and saw it and not enough. It's not enough.

Not enough. Turns out well, hey, you know, Bill, eh. It's doing okay abroad. yeah that feels right because it's like mainly like a light show with cool music which is what tron has always like it's always a good soundtrack and like cool lights yeah exactly and you got nine inch nails so yeah why not in other movie slash streaming news am night shaman is making a magic eight ball tv show so this is the magic eight ball was you know is owned by metel and barbie

you know made a billion dollars so why not produce an entire scripted live action action TV show about the oversized pool ball that can see the future. And yeah, shocking twist. It's going to be M. Knight who also co-created it. He said he's been working on this for a couple of years. Who's in? And then hashtag, it is certain. I just want to, I just want, they, they had like a movie that they were talking about

doing for this. Like in 2023, they were, they were working with the guy who wrote Cocaine Bear. and Blumhouse, but then Blumhouse backed out. And I'm just, I'm having a hard time imagining this being interesting. Like you kind of already know the plot. Like with Barbie, I think the best thing about Barbie is you couldn't imagine a Barbie movie. Like it was like, what the fuck is that going to be? And then that allows the creators of the movie to just like take it in weird directions

and like, you know, invent something interesting out of the blue because there's not really something there whereas this movie like kind of writes itself but unfortunately the movie it writes for itself kind of sucks like I can already see you know the uh a 14 year old kid shaking it and saying come on come on as something scary is approaching from outside the right yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly I know to be yeah reply hazy yeah yeah that's the other thing the you know Ouija as a product, which they've already, like, made the movie based on that, like, a much better version of the same thing where it's like a toy that like has magical communications from like the beyond powers. Like the whole trick of the magic eight ball is that it has a series of like pre-selected answers that are intention. We actually got our kids magic eight ball and I was like fucking around with it.

And like it's not fun because the answers are intentionally. vague. So I think it's like, you know, they seem like they can apply to people's lives and like it's like never getting pinned down by being wrong. But like I was just looking through the answers today. You've got the negative answers are don't count on it. My reply is no. My sources say no. Outlook, not so good and very doubtful. Like it's and then they have a bunch like six non-committal answers reply hazy try again ask again later better not tell you now cannot predict now concentrate and ask again imagine this up you pay for a psychic reading and they're like better not tell you now better not it's actually better for you I thought you fucking knew

don't count on it yeah uh like all the negative answers belong in the non-committal section but yeah it just feels like it's a middle man executive being asked to give his opinion on something and like doing everything to like seem like they have an opinion while like covering their ass is like what the tone of the magic eight ball is i i'm just um as team uh let's all go to the movies i'm glad this is relegated to the bins of like streaming tv and we're not wasting a feature film on it because yeah yeah yeah because look i'm not gonna i ain't gonna fucking huff a bottle of galaxy gas to this shit.

Exactly. I do think, like, more and more, we, we have, like, the streaming content is, it's fine. There's, like, some good stuff. I just watched the first episode of the chair company and, like, that, that's fun that they, like, made a streaming series with Tim Robinson and the makers of, I think you should leave and the director behind friendship, like, that's fun, but I just, like, there's not anything that is competing with. with movies the way that like peak TV did you know yeah yeah yeah I just feel like the longer

we go where like all these corporations have like taken the soul out of the streaming content like the more and more people are just going to be like yeah I guess movies do still need to exist yeah yeah it's a shame I mean because like again this is just another example of forcing IP down people's throats it's like we got this whole deal for all these toys that this company this company makes. We got to make something with this. Right. Right. And then you get a thing that is like a goosebumps story basically, like an R.L. Stein book for kids. It's like, I got the magic game. Shut up. Whatever. Get out of here. I mean, that's, that's cruel to goosebumps, man. Let's let's leave goosebumps out of this. Sorry, man. What am I going to do, man? It's fucking wild. I got a leak in my room.

I know. I'm just discovered a lot. We had to stop down for a second. And every once in a while, Miles's eyes just go to the roof. I just can't. My heart hurts a little. little bit. Your fucking house burns down. You try to move somewhere. You think like, oh, good. I can, like, not worry about this place being a wreck. Yeah.

Fucking water just shooting out from the fucking ceiling. Not in L.A. In L.A. Anytime first big rain of the year, you're going to find out that there are some leaks that you didn't know about. Anyway, we'll survive. And finally, an RIP to Diane Keaton, who passed away over the weekend at the of 79 you know she's amazing and they just said her health deteriorated like i didn't know that in the

months before she passed but yeah i don't for some reason like i remember having this thought have you ever seen the movie the family stone yeah with isn't she in it yeah she's the matriarch it's about a family with the last name stone so that's why it's called the family stone do you get do you get that yeah yeah and sly was a cousin that's right um but all right spoiler Spoilers ahead for the family stone. Okay. But at the end of it, Diane Keaton's character dies. Right, right, right.

And I remember being like, nope, this is incorrect. Diane Keaton just like there's something about her that it's like I talk about the, the writer William Goldman, who, you know, wrote Princess Bride and Butch Cassie and the Sundance Kid. And one of the movies he wrote was supposed to be the next Jaws called Ghost in the, the darkness. It's like jaws, but lions. And it's like set in the, you know, in the distant past. And Michael Douglas is the star. And his theory, yeah, yeah. His theory has always been that the reason it didn't work is because Michael Douglas doesn't make sense to our brains for some reason as existing in the past. He has to be like in the present tense and horny. And, uh, which I think is

exactly right. Like I'm like, yeah, no, that guy is not in the past. He's right. He's right. now and he's fucking somebody yeah i'm like yo this guy's time traveling i think yeah what the no no it's set then no not him yeah future by the way michael keaton's real name michael douglas and so he changed it to michael keaton uh because otherwise you know michael douglas is already out there holy shit but like i'm not some massive like diane Keaton stand, but there's something about her persona. Oh, yeah. That doesn't make sense to me as dying.

Like, I remember thinking that in the movie, being like, no, sorry, you pick the wrong person. She can't die in this movie. She can't die in a movie. She's got a strong aura. I remember. Amazing aura, yeah. I remember being at, like, a restaurant she was at.

And I said, look at this Diane Keaton looking motherful. I was like, it was Diane Keaton. I was like, you really, somebody's really trying to do Diane Keat. Like, I saw from the back, yeah, from the back, I was like, this person is crushing the Diane Keaton impersonation game. And then I look back, I go, oh, it's, oh, shit, that's Diane Keaton. And all you knew was this, like, the length of hair and the hat. And I'm like, that's Diane Keaton. Yeah.

It's fucking Diane Keaton. To your point about her being, like, an immortal figure, my mom and her friends, they are, they were texting all day about when she passed, like Kobe died or some shit. Yeah. They were really, my mom's like, oh, God. like they're similar ages and I think they I think just saw her career they also like came up around the same time like just generally like as they got older and they're like just watching her career unfold sort of in line with their lives and yeah they were like I can't my mom was devastated yeah by this and I was like damn okay mom I mean I get it she was she was great

but I didn't realize how much like of a place she actually holds in like people like my mom's heart too she was yeah what is the youngest or the oldest anybody's ever been where people refuse to accept their death and just were like, nah, they fake their death. Like Tupac and Elvis, you know, where everyone's like, he's actually not dead. Mm-hmm.

I'm just wondering if we could start a rumor that she's actually still alive. Yeah, but it feels like it's... No, what did? Anna just texted, DeAngelo died? Oh, Jesus. No! Fuck.

Pancreatic cancer. Oh, my God. Oh. my god bro that is that's horrible fucking awful that is so upsetting de angelo is one of the greatest r&b instrument fucking singer songwriter guitar player this guy fucking did everything yeah holy shit 51 years old man 51 oh that's horrible man that is fucking yeah no for real and i just said this is my diane keaton here this is my de angelo man fucking is the

fucking most perfect album that has ever been made ever ever fuck man damn that is really am I roof leaking

what the fuck god damn all right all right man I gotta go play voodoo yeah go play voodoo and tend to your leaking roof get a bucket under there

I mean I don't even have fucking roofing skills you don't have roofing skills no let me get over there my resume, Jack. What we hired you for, God damn. Fake it until you make it, man. That's the mantra. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday.

Morning, we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Get your vaccines. Get your flu shots. Well, you still can. And R.P. DeAngelo. We'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.

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