The Daily Zeitgeist - Means to a Trend 11/22: Frozen 2, Floyd Mayweather, JFK Anniversary, #2020

Episode Date: November 23, 2019

On today's Means to a Trend Jack and Miles discuss Frozen 2, Floyd Mayweather, the anniversary of JFK's assassination, and the #WhatImQuittingIn2020 meme. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello, the internet, and welcome to Means to a Trend. Ooh. Hmm. Doesn't even have daily zeitgeist in the title. That just felt like a good, yeah, I like that. Means to a Trend. Yeah. That is our show.

I'm Jack O'Brien. I'm Miles Gray. And this is Nightline. Wait, who gave us that wonderful idea? Means to a Trend is from Zach Van Nus. Oh, shoot. Zach. Zachy baby.

Look at you, sir. Thank you for that name. What's trending? Yeah. What's the show where we'd be like, what's trending, man? But not that show, What's Trending, that used to be on YouTube. Right. This is our very own thing.

This is our very own thing. Proprietary technology. Yes. What is trending? Frozen 2 is trending because it's out today? Is that the deal? Today it is out. And you must see it by law?

Yes. As a parent? I think that's the truth. It's wild. My three-year-old already singing Let It Go. People who have heard the Frozen 2 soundtrack say it's like emo. It's moody. It's dark.

Like what? Have you watched the trailer? Like your kids will be wearing eyeliner at's moody? It's dark? Like what? Have you watched the trailer? Yeah. Have you watched the trailer? No, I don't even know what the first one's about. Oh, really? It's not that good, but a lot of parents ride for it. What's the trailer like? The trailer looks dark. It looks like

the Empire Strikes Back of Frozen. Isn't it about like some woman named Elsa? That's all I know. And she let it go? Mm-hmm. And that's it. Elsa let something go. Is it about her farting? It's dope that it's the first Disney

princess movie where it's about a friendship or a sisterhood between two women instead of being like, she has to find her prince charming uh so it's it's cool in that respect uh interesting it was going to be a normal uh gender normative type of disney movie but then they wrote the song let it go for elsa who was supposed to be the evil uh witch character and it was so good. They were like,

nah, we gotta make her a good character. So they rewrote the whole movie. Not gonna lie, man, I don't know what any of that mess up meant. But it sounds like cool. Anyways, Frozen, big hit movie. Frozen 2 is supposedly about to put Disney and is about to put Disney back on the right track

because they have been on a losing streak, brother. Yeah, they've been basically crashing and burning for the last few years. Yeah. They say that it will propel Disney past the $3 billion box office mark. I've been pulling for them to be able to do that. Yeah, you'll love to see it.

Yes. You'll love to see it. You know what else you will love to see? Floyd Money Mayweather back in the ring. What is going on with him? I don't know. Do we need him to come back? No.

I certainly don't. I could. Is he 42? He's 42, but I could have told you he was going to make a comeback because that always happens. Every undefeated great boxer has to keep coming back until they finally lose. Well, then I hope he gets fully dismantled. Whether that's in a UFC fight versus, you know, what's that dude named?

Khabib Nurmagomedov? Yeah. Or Conor McGregor or whoever else. I mean, I think maybe he kind of is like Jordan, though, too. Right. Like where he he at a certain point he probably is watching tv he's like man these people ain't shit right like let me get back in here let me show you what i can do yeah maybe i'm 42 but i'm also 50 you know when jordan

came back uh with the wizards was he like 40 was was he that old i mean at that point i i tried to forget yeah the sneakers were so bad that's when. That's when I was like, ooh, yeah. Those sneakers kind of looked like the Teslas a little bit. The ones, because they were like triangular. The Tesla truck? Yeah, the Tesla truck. They were like triangles. Oh, yeah. Didn't it have like a spat or something?

Yeah. Like a lace guard on the front? Yeah, they looked a little bit like Robin Hood men in tights shoes. The Mel Brooks film with Cary Ellis? Yeah, they looked a little. Such a specific vibe. I don't know. They look like the Mel Brooks film,

Robin Hood Men in Tights, with Dave Chappelle. Yes. Little known fact. I mean, unless you watched it. How he caught his big break. That's where he learned everything he knows about comedy. Yeah, so I don't know.

This dude is... He's definitely going to get a paycheck. One of the worst people in sports, supposedly. But he's going to get paid. I mean, anybody who flaunts their wealth around like that, I can't imagine is a chill person to be around constantly. Yeah. Especially when you derive so much of your identity

by things like that. But what do I know? I'm just a monk in a booth. I'm just a humble monk. I'm a humble monk in my Mazda 3, and I don't have nine Bugattis like this fool. It is November 22nd, and that means it is the anniversary

of November 22nd, 1963, which is also trending. Which is the anniversary. Wait, what happened then? JFK was assassinated. Do you have this date tatted on your body? I do. It's in a number of places, actually.

I'm surprised that you didn't catch on that today. I guess it doesn't really matter that it's November 22nd because I know you love the assassination of JFK. I don't love the assassination of JFK. I find it horrifying. Oh, I'm sorry. You're horrified by the assassination of JFK. Yes.

But I mean, more in the sense that you've read so much about it. You are deeply, deeply interested in it. I have a theory that I find convincing. You might as well just say it now. What's your theory? It wasn't Lee Harvey Oswald. Jackie did it. Jacqueline Kennedy

analysis. Wow. Yeah. Trick shot. Trick shot. No, that it was an accidental shot from a secret service agent. It's one of those theories that unless you go into detail explaining why it's plausible, it sounds implausible. So I won't even go into it other than to tell you that I've solved the JFK assassination. And if I disappear this weekend, avenge me. and avenge me. I don't think I would. If that really happened, I'd be like,

you know what? He flew too damn close to the sun. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? I will carry on this show. Yeah. In your name.

There was an article in some newspaper about the Secret Service agent who jumped on top of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis like as the car took off. Right. And yeah, there's some dark shit.

Well, he's haunted. Yeah. Even like what? What is this? He was unable to kind of put this behind him. 56 years. He was a alcoholic once he retired. Yeah.

But he then kind of got into recovery, started putting his life back together, but even the way he describes it, they talk about the fact that when she goes to the back of the car- Where she's crawling on the trunk? Where she's crawling on the back. I always assumed she was trying to get away, but she was actually going back there to scoop up his- What had been-

What had been inside his head to put it back in his head, which is, yeah, it's dark, man. Maybe we don't celebrate this day. Yeah. Well, not that anyone's celebrating. I don't think we should celebrate it. Get your JF cakes. It's November 22nd.

And then finally, a hashtag that's trending. Hashtag in 2020, I'm going to quit that's trending hashtag in 2020 I'm going to quit hashtag in 2020 I'm going to quit yeah what are we going to quit in 2020

well I just can't quit you ha Brokeback Mountain joke just can't do it my mom's favorite film nailed it she oh my

if my mom heard you say that if she's listening to this she's gonna go I love when Jack did Brokeback Mountain reference. Your jacket actually looks like it could be from Brokeback Mountain. Oh, hell yeah. Jack Twist. Brokeback Chic.

Call me Jack Nasty. What are you going to quit in 2020? I'm quitting the show. Okay. Good to know. I hate to tell you like this. Yeah, this is surprising. I think that was the top trending ones that people did in 2020.

I'm quitting my job. Yeah, there you go. I'm quitting being as sedentary as I've been. Yeah. Yeah. I think what I'm going to do, I'm going to be, I don't know, man. I'm so tight. You know what I mean?

I don't know what else I should say. I must be hard for you to think about self-improvement things. Dude, how can you improve upon a flawed thing that you can accept? It's not about perfection. You go, you know what? It's flawed, and I accept it. Just keep it moving. A thing that I will quit doing, though, is just negative self-talk.

I think that's the hardest. I think that will be a thing I'll try and quit every year. Do you give yourself some talking to? Oh, my God. Are you kidding me, man? Gets ugly in there. Between being half Japanese and like being a perfectionist, all kinds of stuff. So many times I'll just be overly critical of things that I do.

And I realize, you know, like it's only serving a very odd, like other, I don't know, dimension of my personality that doesn't actually serve me in any way. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I have a reflexive thing where it's like, can't let myself get too happy or then it'll. Yeah, right.

It's like, well, things are going too good. Yeah. Now what's going to be the bad thing? Now I'll ease up. Yeah. I think that's, you know, it's just about living in the present, embracing it, because the future doesn't exist and neither does the past. And what's only real is the present. So if we stay engaged there, then how can we have anxiety?

Yeah, you said it, brother. You know what I mean? This has been my TED Talk. This is our first full week of Means to a Trend. Yeah. week of means to a trend yeah and i am uh as we mentioned on yesterday's means to a trend i'm uh pretty delirious at this point yeah we've look i mean people don't know we've got a lot of things cooking churning don't worry it's not a tv show yeah i wish most of the time when people say that like with any kind of media right it's like like guys we have something we've really been working on.

Yeah. It's a TV show with CISO. Yeah. I don't know if you guys so hold on to your butts. This stuff this CISO thing sounds pretty cool y'all.

I hope y'all will chip in a dime or two. All right guys have a great weekend. Yeah. Go see Frozen 2. Tell me about it. Or don't. Or Mr. Rogers a great weekend. Yeah. Go see Frozen 2. Tell me about it. Or don't.

Or don't. Go see Ford vs. Ferrari. Or Mr. Rogers. Or Mr. Rogers. That is what my mom would call that movie. What? Mr. Rogers. Oh.

Wait, what do you mean? Isn't it called, like, Won't You Be My Neighbor? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, then I'm like your mom. That's Mr. Yo, y'all go see Mr. Rogers. I was going to say, whoever said that is like someone who works at the studio, who actually had a hand in making the fucking thing.

Right. Versus me, I'm like, that's Mr. I don't know. It doesn't have it. It's Mr. Rogers. Like Captain America? That's Mr. Rogers. Even as a child, I never called it Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.

Right. It's Mr. Rogers. Yeah, that's true. Point blank. That's how the brand is. It's too big. It's too strong. You can't redefine it now.

Good luck and good night. Yeah. That movie, like, apparently it turns out Mr. Rogers is just a monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It turns out at the end, there's a twist where it turns out it's all part of the Shyamalan universe.

Like that movie Split. The village. Yeah. Oh, could you imagine? Oh, he's like the- Mr. Glass comes out. What's the thing? What were all the puppets called? Fantasy Land or whatever? King Friday? Yeah, but like, what you imagine? Oh, he's like the... Mr. Glass comes out. What's the thing? What were all the puppets called?

Fantasy Land or whatever? King Friday? Yeah, but like, what was it? Didn't that thing have a name? I don't know. I'm ignorant and old. This was 900 years ago. But I was going to make some kind of reference like that was the village.

And see, again, this is y'all seeing us losing momentum at the end of the day. All right, guys. Go enjoy your weekends. We will do the same. Are we? I think we're going to just shut down the lights. You and I just close our eyes

and power down until Monday and we're like... Time to go. The Rogers movie came out this weekend. Hello! Hello!

All right, guys.