The Daily Zeitgeist - MedBed Can Cure Dead? Gaping Mouths > Taping Mouths 09.30.25

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

In episode 1939, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, Ridiculous History, and Wrongful Conviction, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… Elon Deleted That Twee...t About Trump Being In The Epstein Files... Musk Also In Files Tho? Trump Isn’t Polling Well But At Least He Can Offer Us Medbeds? This Just In: Don’t Tape Your Mouth Shut At Night, Saudi Arabia And Jared Kushner’s Private Equity Firm Are Buying Electronic Arts For $55 Billion and more! Trump Isn’t Polling Well But At Least He Can Offer Us Medbeds? Viral mouth-taping trend ‘sus’ says Canadian sleep expert Viral ‘mouth taping’ TikTok trend labelled ‘dangerous’ Some people tape their mouths shut at night. Doctors wish they wouldn’t LISTEN: IDONTMIND by ZEP, Moses YoofeeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why do you blur out your background? It doesn't look like you got anything on your walls. You're just sticking with that one? I remember one time we were, I remember one time we were recording, and I was like, I got all these books. And Miles straight up said,
Starting point is 00:00:21 yeah, man, but you do look like you're in an empty room in some kind of serial killer vibe. Wait, do you? What do you got? So you protect it? You only blur for Daily Ziteguise? Does you know Miles is going to come for your ass? This came on as an automatic thing on Zoom. Let me unblur.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Damn, man, that's Door City back there. Oh, damn. Okay, Doors of perception. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah. They all go different places. You got Jim Wallace, Jim Morrison over here. That is still my favorite. I love the rehearsal. I think it's a monumental achievement in, like, meta you know commentary on the media and all the weird realities fractured realities we live in
Starting point is 00:01:06 my favorite part of the show is still when he goes to in the first episode he goes to that guy's house and he has like four doors right next to each other and he just goes oh man it's door city over here huh and it's like the joke that he had written ahead of time this is first season one that's season one episode one he just goes oh man it's door city over here I love it My new favorite thing to say. Anytime you see a bunch of doors. Yeah, you got four, right? What do you got a clock?
Starting point is 00:01:36 You got, what do you got an exterior door to the outdoor? You got a bathroom door? Is that a little bathroom behind you? Hey, man, it's a regular bathroom. Oh. No. It's a normal sized bathroom. Yeah, it's not a Hobbit House bathroom.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, no. Is this me in high school driving with a girl for the first time? Because this guy's flexing with the doors. on us. Okay. True story. I was thinking of the greatest hits. I was thinking about you guys before,
Starting point is 00:02:06 before we started hanging out today. And I was thinking about the dumbest sketch comedy I ever wrote. Why were you thinking about us? What a fucking burn. I was thinking about the dumbest shit that I could possibly imagine. It reminded me of the worst shit I ever cooked. I was thinking of you guys. Let me, hold on.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Let me go back in that. the archives. Oh my God, but a real laugh. Naturally brought up. No, no, no. So here's the pitch. I came up with this idea years ago where I was like,
Starting point is 00:02:42 I was still smoking cannabis at the time. And, you know, we're at a pitch of me. You don't have to say it like you're in the DEA. Yeah, well, that was a comment. All right, special agent. All right, all right, all right. All right. So I was still cool at that point.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And I was like, I was like, you know, it would be funny if there was like a door to door door, door salesman. And they were like, what does he do? I was like, you know, he like goes door to door. He sells the door doors. And he's got the door with him. And it's like, and that made you think of us. I thought it was. So that terrible idea immediately in your brain goes, that's daily zeit guy stuff. Oh, man. You know who's going to love this? Jagimiles. You know what Dickies will eat up this slop? Hot Door on Door Action?
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know, who's always talking about hot door on door action? It's Door City over here. It's fucking Door City. Oh, my God. This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. then have we got good news for you.
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Starting point is 00:06:08 Ice Ghost. It's a production of iHeartRadio, it's a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's Chair Consciousness, and it's Monday, September 30th, 2025. It's Tuesday, September 30th. Fucking A, man. Yeah. Every fucking time with this guy, he got you. This guy, B and me.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He's holding a hand mirror. Every time with this guy. Why do you always have it on deck? It's September 30th. It's Tuesday, September 30th, 2025. Re-up. The whole time. Re-up.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Reloaded. National mud pack day. National Love People Day. National chewing gum day. Shout out to all my people who can get the multiple pops out of the one chewing gum. You know what I mean? When you're like, multiple pops. How many pops can you get out of a piece of gum?
Starting point is 00:06:56 like in one go. Like, can you... You pop your gum, right? Do you pop your gum? I blow bubble. No, no, snap it. Like inward, inward. The inward snapping.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Oh, that's that shit. I'm not a snapper. Yeah. See, you never worked at the DMV, and it shows. It's also National Hot Mold Cider Day. National... Fuck this. N-U-L-L-E-D.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Dude, you won't even believe. It's National AI in Workday. Get... Thank you. Pass. Be kind to your... AI co-workers. Here at this company, we believe that soon, over half of the people in America will be AI.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Isn't that what one of the AI? Oh, yeah, yeah. She said half the people on Earth will be AI. What are you even fucking saying? It's also Orange Shirt Day, which I remember a few years ago, I was like, I'll wear an orange shirt. And then people rightfully pointed out, it's actually talking about awareness around the Indian residential schooling system, like in the U.S. and Canada.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So, yeah, yeah. over there they have a national day for truth and reconciliation in america it's called i why are you bringing up old shit i like that we both have memories of this day from years past because you remembered that and i remember being like mold sider that's fucking gross m-o-l-l-d oh m-u-l-l-ed i think a simpsons joke yeah i know all right well is this the last day How many days half September, Miles? Just 30.
Starting point is 00:08:26 30 days, half September? Yeah. Holy shit. October. Spooky season starts tomorrow, baby. I'm excited. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, if you're happy and you know, nope, if you're funny and you know it, stay at home. If you're funny and you know it, stay at home.
Starting point is 00:08:43 If you're funny and you know it, then tell NBS to smoke it. If you're funny and you know it, stay at home. Second verse. If you made them watch you jerk it, stay abroad. You don't need to ever come back. from Riyadh if you made him watch you jerk it
Starting point is 00:08:56 and your show was never worth it go ahead you fucking pervert stay abroad that one courtesy a collabo between snarfi law
Starting point is 00:09:04 and that first verse and cap in America on the second okay America do be capin do be brothers
Starting point is 00:09:12 shout out to Atsko Okatska former guest on this show not that that affected that but we will be like I think, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, we're, we're going to take, we're going to take the credit. We're going to take the wind.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Wherever it's at, yeah, we're not even changed on the table. Uh, posted the list of things, comedians have been told, uh, she was invited to go to the Riyadh comedy festival. And Miles, as you mentioned on yesterday's trending, uh, posted, here's what, here's what the contract asked. You were not allowed to include jokes that may be considered to degrade defame or bring into public disrepute, contempt, scandal, embarrassment, or ridicule, Saudi Arabia, it's ruling government, royal family, or any religion or religious figure, period. So just, you know, straight from the Crown Prince who actively executes journalists and people with non-lethal drug offenses and bloggers. Yep, yep. But by the way, people with non-lethal drug offenses, Ben, I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. You came out on wax on that cold open, man, I think. I don't know. We might have to cut that out. Anyways, Dorsey. Thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:33 No, no, no. It's just me, Miles Gray, aka. I set fire to the blood passing left while I'm serving caught. Shout out David Lesser for that one. You know what I mean? You know, I have Adele in my range. So I had to. Thank you for.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You did have to. Thank you for rhyming blot with cotton, mate. Appreciate it. Savin, Grant. Adele has one of the biggest differences between singing voice and then, like, just overall general vibe. Yeah. Like, you know, going up.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's very, it's an energy. You do I. You don't, you're on, mate. Yeah. What? Three to one. She is, she is, everything. I've heard about her is pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like, she, she's a character. She is truly a character from what I hear. Not even my favorite musician, but I'm a big fan of her as a person and just general vibes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't make me regret this, Adele.
Starting point is 00:11:35 She's going to be thrilled to hear that you guys get that. This is a big deal for her. Big day for Adele. I'm doing the show. All right, they've convinced me. Get in line, Adele. Miles, we're thrilled to be
Starting point is 00:11:50 joined in our third seat once again by a writer, one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it, you know them from stuff they don't want you to know, ridiculous history, missing in Arizona, and host of the new show, wrongful conviction with Ben Bolin. Who could it be out? He may have
Starting point is 00:12:06 guessed from that title. It's Ben Bowling! Bolin! Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. What happened to that usual, AKA, the bowling? Yeah, that's up to you. No, we fight in.
Starting point is 00:12:21 No lie. You know it's Ben bowling. Ah, yes. Thank you. Justin, put in a fake applause cute. Yeah. Ben just kicked through one of the 13 doors behind him. Dude, what is it, Door City back there?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, we got a, we got a lot of doors. Look, you guys, we know we always hang together in situations. I'm here with some of the best guys to ever do it. Thank you for always hang together in situations. What is it not? That is absolutely 100% correct. That feels like something you say when you bring like nerds to like the bully dinner. When you're like, guys and these are two of my pals I hang with in situations knowing these are people who are going to beat their ass tonight, these fucking losers.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Man, we're pro nerd here, I think. Hell yeah. Right? Are you a bully? As long as you don't become some billionaire taking out your fucking life's failures on the rest of us, yeah, do you. Yeah, for real, man.
Starting point is 00:13:26 The news about Peter Thiel is frighten. And, you know, when we talk about this in private, Ben, all the time, but we were really rooting for that guy. We really had a feeling. A tealing. Reading the tea leaves. Yeah. He named it Palantir.
Starting point is 00:13:43 What could go wrong? I know. You did sound like you were answering questions about us. under deposition. There are two individuals who I spent time within situations. Uh-huh. Okay. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:00 What does we do? Sounds like what do we do in this? It sounds like AI trying to describe an improv group. Like in the case where I figured it's like, and there are people they hang out within situations of their creation. Oh, man. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah. I miss improv. Great. Yeah. Let's do something. Wow. Sorry. I guess I'm the nerd.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Zagang, let us get a one-word suggestion really quick. You want to start off some space work, Ben? Door-to-door salesman. Door-to-door to door to door. But what if he also sells doors? This is perfect. All right. Come on, do some space work.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You're pulling up to my door with a door right now. Okay. Okay. And remember, get it out in the first line, the who, what, and where, right? Remember? Right, right, right. You're not right, ding-dong. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You're UCB. me so hard, man. I didn't know you had the acumen. You didn't know you went to Berkeley? You didn't know what went to Berkeley? Where do you think I started smoking all that cannabis, man? The hippies. Ben, we're thrilled to have you here.
Starting point is 00:15:01 We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Elon Musk in the Epstein files. You know? That's big news. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:15:17 and why that might be the reason that Marjorie Taylor Green is saying, if I die, I did not kill myself over the weekend. And then there was news, Donald Trump retweeted a completely made up AI-generated video. I think this is a really interesting insight into how he finds out about the things that he's doing. Because he retweeted a video was made up about something that he is doing. I mean, there's not much more than that, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's med beds, which is like a long-term conspiracy that, like, they're going to create this thing, like the goo. Oh, it exists. Yeah. Oh, don't, don't tell me it doesn't exist. Uh, like, respawn points, like a bat. What, what's the wanted is one movie that has like the bed where you just like go in the goo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Or like Star Wars, the Bacta tank. that you go into? Dune has it,
Starting point is 00:16:19 Dune has it too. Just rich people submerged. Based on hyperbaric chamber technology, right? So somebody, yeah, somebody created an AI generated video of a Fox News segment where a fake AI, Laura Trump was talking about him
Starting point is 00:16:34 dropping the first net done, drawn all of our asses. And he retweeted it. He was like, yo, this is huge for me. That's right. He's like,
Starting point is 00:16:42 that's bad. That's right. I did. I did. I did. No, you didn't, Donald.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's bullshit. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about why you shouldn't tape your mouth shut at night. I know this is going to hit our listenership hard. Yeah, it says you, Jack. Yeah. And also, yeah, we're going to have to say Saratoga Springs face baths don't work either. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You're not giving up on that. I haven't been forced to, yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, I may be under deposition, but I'm not going to come through and say that in any shape or form. Okay. Wait, wait, before we go on, can I ask what? What is a Saratoga face bath? Did you see that video, that one influencer,
Starting point is 00:17:20 the guy who kept dunking his face into iced, like iced bottles of Saratoga Springs water? He would just... Oh, that guy. Yeah, like his morning routine starts at like 3.30, where he dumps his head into a bowl of bottled water. Yep. And somehow as a crew of employees would, like, just hand them.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It's like two people. He's very thankful. He's very grateful, Ben. Oh, no, it's like a woman, right? I feel like a woman does everything for him, too. like makes his meals in my experience there's one where he definitely has a female
Starting point is 00:17:51 you know what I mean bring his lunch before he even dunks his head into Saratoga Springwater he does pull some mouth tape off his face which as I've discussed before in my influencer arms race with him I've I actually wrapped my entire head
Starting point is 00:18:08 in masking tape like I'm mummy up my whole shit up every night just to try and you know come up with a thing that has not, in retrospect, caught on as well. And it has been really bad for my ability to keep eyebrows. I mean, look, for me, whenever I take hostages, I just, that's why I was to bring ball
Starting point is 00:18:24 gags with me. It's just easy. That's why you've always got a bunch in your pocket. It's for when I take hostages. It's not for freaky sex stuff. Why are you being so weird? And that is actually more acceptable today. Oh, oh, okay. Better than. We were at the TSA
Starting point is 00:18:40 and they were like, Miles. That's dope. Yeah. That's smart. four ball gags on your belt. And I open up my hoodie and I have a t-shirt on it says, for the hostages, baby, is what it says. And they're like, hey, this guy gets it.
Starting point is 00:18:55 They're like, this guy rules. I'll also talk about Saudi Arabia. Another attempt at, you know. Any kind of comedy washing. And also Madden washing their reputation. Bye, fine. They just bought electronic arts for 55 bills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Oh, did you see Mohammed bin Salman's fucking stats in the new FIFA game? Dude, Pace 99, shooting 99, dismemberment 99. You know, it's like, sick, you will dismember your defense. All of that, plenty more, but first, Benbow, and we do like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:19:32 All right, Svalbard, excuse me, I'm not a native Norwegian speaker. You guys heard of this place? Well, we heard. Small bard? You mean Svalbard? all right thank you wait what is it
Starting point is 00:19:47 it's the northern most settlement in the world you know how stuff kind of sucks around the globe and it's tough to be alive and everything this is the place that you could
Starting point is 00:20:04 just fuck off to oh that's where like the seed vault is yes you nailed it yes okay it's where the seed vault is It's an archipelago technically under the control of Norway and get this, guys, despite being, you know, nominally part of Europe. This area, Svalbard, will literally let anyone show up and live there. Oh, fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 No EU visa, no residency worries. More like, no ice, no ice, just, I mean, actual ice. Yeah, a ton of it. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, real quick, mild. one on the P.U. Thanks, man. Thank you, gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Guys, this reminds me of a sketch, the worst sketch idea I've ever had in my life. EU, more like P.U. I'm sorry, go on. So, take anybody. There's ice literally. Okay, I can do it. How do they keep the people out, Ben?
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah. I'm assuming they're just being flooded with people seeking asylum there. You know, it's interesting because you have to get up there first. Their rules are kind of like they're similar to the U.S. opinion or policy for Cuba during the Cold War, where they said, hey, if you can make it to the shore of the U.S. from Cuba, you're fucking in. And Svalbard is so inconvenient to get to and so inhospitable to humans that they essentially said, look, if you want to. get over there and hang out, that's fine. You should probably
Starting point is 00:21:50 bring a rifle, you can rent a rifle. Great, I'm from America. I got plenty. Right, what else? Oh, because of the polar bears. The polar bears are a big deal. They kind of run the game there. There's a sketchy nearby. The polar bears run the game.
Starting point is 00:22:06 They're in charge. They stamp your passport when you get there. They stamp your passport. They give you a Coca-Cola classic. I know. This is giving Coca-Cola classic. Polar Bear Society vibes. I don't know. I'm fascinated with this because it seems anomalous, right? That there would be a place so inhospitable that the world agreed, hey, dude, if you can fucking make it and hang out. If something's wrong with you enough to want to come here and then I guess, yeah, fine.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Hang out. Right, yeah. Their migration policy is, yeah, be my guest. Exactly. Sure thing, asshole. Like to see you try. Here's why they're not getting flooded to your earlier question. Because of all the things you just mentioned.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I thought the polar bears kind of covered it. Yeah, that is a turnoff for some people. Some, yeah, turn off for others. Yeah. Mainly people who want to die due to polar bear. Yeah, yeah. They're super into that. I'm trying to do the follow-up to Grizzly, man, polar man.
Starting point is 00:23:17 There it is. There it is. I think you get 15 minutes outside of the settlement there. So just start the GoPro immediately. The issue is that if you live there, like let's say we make it over there. Uh-huh. I'm just ice skating the whole way, by the way. I call dibs on that method of getting it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Jack is ice skating the whole way. Miles, you and I are probably just. just taking a flight. Yeah, yeah, I would do that. Yeah, it sounds easier. All right, we'll meet you there. And the issue, the reason there's not a ton of people living there now is due to Norway's stance. And they said, you can live there as long as you want, but it does not count toward your residency
Starting point is 00:24:04 in the Schengen zone nor in the EU. Oh, so you're truly just like, yeah, man, hang out there, but only there. Exactly. Until you can no longer hang out there. I'm seeing here, Ben, that the rifle thing was not a, like, you need a rifle. Or a flare gun. Yeah. And that is literally because of polar, like, they're like, you are not legally allowed.
Starting point is 00:24:29 That's like driving without car insurance, essentially. It's like if you're walking in this area without a rifle or flare gun, it's so inadvisable. Sounds like living to Los Angeles. Am I right? Miles? Am I right? I'm just picturing you like land there and you're like, why have I seen like 20 flares go off? Yeah. Like in the last 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:24:54 You'll party here, huh? People being beaten by polar bears like all over the horizon. Can you imagine us as American knuckleheads seeing those flares like you're describing and going, you guys party here? Yeah, man. And someone leans in seriously with like a deadpan voice and they go. So he's mainly the bears. Yeah, and I'd be like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Polar bear. All you Scandinavians, you really have no sense of fucking humor, guys. I knew it was the polar bears. You also have Russian accents for some reason. I'm surprised you guys got mad because I blew up the polar bear with a homemade bomb. I thought we had to protect her. Now I'm going too far. You guys, I fucking can't win.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Anyway. I thought you guys were about that life. Yeah. Anyway, Svalbard, recommendation, if you got a. Scoot, scoot. Yeah, yeah. Cool. It means small bark.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Ah. No, it actually. I think it means white snow or something. It means tall bart, actually. Tall Bart. Small barred. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:55 What is something you think is underrated? Blimps. Blimps. I didn't even finish my question. No, I'm just, you are. I'm heated up. Yeah. I'm fucking heated up.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Let him cook, Jack. Okay, go on. Why? Okay. Boo. First off. Okay. Ah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 All right, let me sell you a door. So airships are better than planes for the environment. What do you think the door-to-door blimp salesman rolls up in? It's not a car. It's not a car, brother. It's a door. It's a door on skates. What a thought it was a blimp?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Nope. Nope. I go door-to-door on my door selling originals. There we go. Now, I like the way we're spinning this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so Hindenburg aside, let's get past. that little big aside but we're going to move past it we're just going to bracket the hindenberg
Starting point is 00:26:46 i just call that one lead zeppelin it it is a zeppelin i remember when i found out that was a real thing i was like that's just the lead zeppelin album cover that's not a thing that happened and then like what the fuck is this oh okay anyway so hindenberg aside what are there any is there any modern i think were you were you oh no who was on was it maybe daniel o'brien who was i was talking about like how limited that like the derogibles like there are a few dirigible actually in like being used around the world right now very few uh this country the u.s is home to the good year blimps you know famed for saying ice cubes a pimp on one day in the early 90s everybody did so much detective work to try and figure out what the good day was they should just gone back through
Starting point is 00:27:38 good year blimp history whenever it said ice cubes a pimp Ice cubes of him. Yeah, you could find it. You idiots. Why are you doing all this work? Zygang, hop on the Discord. We need your help. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Figure this out. We, I don't know. I am mystified by these because I used to do a show about vehicles, right? It was called car stuff in a burst of creativity. And really, the story of the airship, the dirigible, the Zeppelin, it's kind of a story about how humanity can't have nice stuff because it's
Starting point is 00:28:16 a thing that works so long as people don't try to shoot it down. Like my dreams of a rap career. Oh, man. I have to hear it all the time. It's the Zeppelin of our times.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You think people were trying to shoot Zeppelin's down now, blimp's down now? Probably not, right? I don't know. They're shooting it at fucking drones, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's too, it's too tempting.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Is that what it is? What if I could bring this down? What if I could? You know what I mean? Like with a plane, you're like, man, I, that, no way, no way. But a dirigible? Now you're talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 It's, you definitely, I think I, I'm getting the call of the void when I look at a blimp. Oh, yeah, exactly. It's just like, man, look, I could, don't have to be. able to aim good at all. I could probably throw a football clear through that Zeppelin and bring it down. And you're looking at your friends and just pre-checking with them and you're like, I'm a cool person, right?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Like, I'm not a deck. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I was like, I already called dibs on bringing it down. You're like, ah, damn it. All right, you go. You go. I wanted to get on board with this. And so I was like, I bet, I bet like, that the Hindenburg disaster was such a mess
Starting point is 00:29:36 and like so horrifying looking. like just that having a huge thing like burst into flame and like I think 36 people died like but is it that dangerous and it is like there's people dying like a lot at that during that time of popularity there's a lot of ill-fated missions a lot of them in New Jersey for some reason
Starting point is 00:30:00 might just be that New Jersey doesn't know how to deal with but yeah like a few years before the Hindenburg USS Akron crashes at sea off the coast of New Jersey in severe storm. 73 dead, many drown. Oh, I can see how weather is probably its greatest foe. Just a little bit of wind. You guys are right.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You guys are right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I just, I feel like it could potentially be an answer to a lot of the stuff happening with private and commercial flights. It's just slow, ungainly, cumbersome. They're chunky boys. in the sky. Chunky boys in the sky.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Hell yeah. I love that. That's the album name. Yeah, yeah. Led Zepp was on released album. Yeah, the fact that the Empire State Building was originally designed to be a blimp docking station. That's why it kind of looks
Starting point is 00:30:56 the way it does. Has always, like, captured my imagination and just been like, man, there is an alternate version of history where, like, the sky over New York is just full of blinks and derogables. How is the Empire State Building was It seems bad, right? It seems like having a big pointy thing on the top would be a bad call.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It was designed for other stuff, but in the pitch meeting, someone was like, you know what? Also, we should park blimps here. Blips at a time were essentially like our version of AI, whereas just like you throw blips into the pitch to get people excited about it. It was a very pro blimp. They're like, even though the big pointy thing on top, it's like, it's fine. You'd think, right? But this is 100% dirigible safe.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Okay. No way that this metaphorical bubble will ever burst. Yeah. Wow. We're just, yeah, when's our AI, Hindenburg?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Good Lord. Oh, man. Can't come soon enough. On the way. Anyways, I agree with you. We need to bring them back for, for good or ill,
Starting point is 00:31:55 just because they would look cool. The world would look so sick. I like how you tagged for ill, as if you lightly implied that blimps may ruin the world. And you're like, let's go for it. Look, it,
Starting point is 00:32:09 dangerous than I was hoping when you first brought this up a few minutes ago. They're whimsical as hell, though. Lists of airship accidents, and there's quite a few. Wimical as hell, you don't need jet fuel to propel yourself quite as much as you do with like the thousands of flights, thousands and thousands of flights that are, you know, going through the air every day. It is a plot point at the end of Ministry for the Future, the book about like what a future where we actually solve climate change
Starting point is 00:32:39 would look like one of them is that we replace air travel via jet fuel propelled rockets with with deridibles. And it's fun. It's just slower. You just have to be willing to slow the pace of your life down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And there's nothing wrong with taking a breath. No. I mean, there is now. Saying shit like that today will get you killed. This guy's too into breathing. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about your overrated and get into the news.
Starting point is 00:33:13 We'll be right back. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,
Starting point is 00:34:06 And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes. Then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways. Disappearances. Legendary heists. The whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart podcast present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital. and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled.
Starting point is 00:36:22 By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animal.
Starting point is 00:36:44 There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book. My deals. Let's get models in.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Till this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and we're back and Ben Bowen what is something you think is overrated leaf blowers what the fuck you know the machines they're like the most fun machine that I own
Starting point is 00:37:51 you own a leaf floor I thought you were talking about Toronto Maple Leaves fans holy shit fucking guy yeah man it's Winnipeg all day wait so you you hate a leaf blower what do you mean i i don't or they're overrated rather yeah yeah yeah um like do you run into leaf blowers in your day-to-day life miles yeah all the time my best friend's a leafblower i just look i get it for a big deal place sure clean up the yard in your halls of governments or
Starting point is 00:38:29 your holy places or whatever but you take a leaf blower to this whole damn place you just see the capital building at night somebody's just leaf blowing all this shit through the halls and shit yeah yeah well why it's such a phenomenally
Starting point is 00:38:48 unnecessary invention for the most part you know leaves are part of the natural environment yeah man yeah You're talking like a guy who doesn't know the power of the leaf blower But a goal
Starting point is 00:38:59 I used to be cool Okay You guys remember You know You are smoking cannabis Using a leaf blower It sounds like the take of somebody Who hasn't consumed cannabis
Starting point is 00:39:08 In the past 48 hours Right Right right right I would hit my cannabis And I would crank up my leaf blower You know Leaflowers do Give off a lot of fumes
Starting point is 00:39:20 I will say Like that You are like Breathing exhaust Yeah the gas power one are crazy. Like, I have a plug-in one that is obviously, like, not as powerful or convenient
Starting point is 00:39:32 as the gas-powered ones. And, like, you know, shout out to the people who have to use gas-powered leaf blowers for their jobs. But it's, man, like, you feel like you're behind a car, like a gas-powered car. It's just weird that you say that they're
Starting point is 00:39:48 overrated in the week where the federal government has launching a siege against Portland, where they famously were using leaf blowers to kind of blow back the tear gas canisters. Oh, shit. Okay, no, I've changed my mind. No, no, I was just like, I was like, okay, all right, CIA.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I like that's the, I like that's the first use of a leaf floor that I like. Blow the tear gas. When you have a plug in one, you plug it in. And if you forget to turn it off and it's on, it will like start shooting around on the ground because it's like a rocket-powered wind turpour. fine it's pretty fun wait you've left one you've left it on plugged it in
Starting point is 00:40:32 and it just goes and it starts like go on grid no no no like a balloon letting its air out exactly it's a balloon letting its air out I have to go chase it around the plug-in ones are super lightweight I like oh so you never used a leaf blower before huh
Starting point is 00:40:47 this is really cool honey hey hey it's on the loose again did you leave it plugged in again yes but that's beside the point. The kids are using it all day.
Starting point is 00:41:00 The kids were using it. Get in the house. Go in the cellar. Save yourself. Save yourself. Everybody get into the... I'm burning the house down. Get out.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Get into the leaf blower shelter. All right. All right. Well, agree to disagree on this one, Ben. Agree to agree. Wow. Yeah. Let's talk about Thapstein files.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah. Still... Still... People listed in the Epstein Files still not very popular. No, no. Over the weekend, there were so many news stories, like how Stephen Miller was now known to be running point on Operation Kill People in Boats without evidence and just say it's got, it's made. We could trust that guy? Yeah, out of Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah, it's the boat was made of fentanyl. That's, yeah, yeah, that's why, you know, illegal US, illegal invasions of US cities or maybe even Trump's direct. to law enforcement that being anti-capitalist or anti-traditional values is a potential indicator of being a terrorist, but there was a little bit of Epstein news. So the Democrats on the, I believe, the Oversight Committee, they put out a few documents from Jeffrey Epstein's personal calendar and revealed that people like Steve Bannon, Peter Teal, and Elon Musk show up there a time or two. The Bannon stuff isn't as surprising because, you know, Steve Bannon talks about how he was
Starting point is 00:42:25 like interviewing Epstein and like there's like this whole unreleased episode of War Room where it sounds like Epstein's trying to be like and I stopped talking to Trump when I realized he was a crook and it's like yeah okay sure whatever whatever you got to say man but the and the teal thing is you know I don't I don't that's not as surprising none of it really is surprising I for one can't believe the thing with Elon though as well he appears in Epstein's calendar and with this entry from 2014 and quote, Elon Musk to Island, December 6th, parenthetical, is this still happening? What?
Starting point is 00:42:58 The island? Wait, Jeff wrote this? This is in Jeffrey Epstein's personal calendar. It said, Elon Musk to island, December 6th, is this still happening? Yeah, I don't know if, I don't think it's the island that you and McGregor and Scarlett Johansson movie that came out about being. like a body club. I would assume that's the Peter Kiel Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels more like a heel. Yeah, for
Starting point is 00:43:27 sure. Musk on Twitter fired back saying that it's like Epstein tried to get me to go so many times and I just didn't go. Like I went to his condo once, but like he was always trying to get me to go on and I knew he was a creep. So, okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Interesting. All right. Sure. It's just interesting that he was the guy who like kind of drummed up the interest in Epstein files and then seems to be hoisted by his own. His own Jean-Luc Petard, if you will. There we go. Didn't he delete all that stuff, too? Yeah, he deleted it like right after, like maybe a month or two ago.
Starting point is 00:44:03 He just sort of silently was like, I never accused anyone of being an Epstein files ever. That's not me. But also, like, in this thing, it says Elon Musk to Island December 6th, is this still happening? Which to me would presume you said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be there December 6th. Yeah. Not exactly saying. I refused every time.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, yeah. But okay. And aside from that, shit can potentially still get real once Adelita Grhalva is sworn. And as we said last week, she won a special election in Arizona to be the 218th signature to the discharge petition, which would allow for a floor vote in the House to basically be like, we're releasing all the Epstein files in a searchable, public-friendly format and have at it folks. When can she be sworn in? Oh, well, when Speaker Mike Johnson brings the house back into session. Is he doing it right now? No. No, he's not. Isn't the government facing a
Starting point is 00:45:03 shutdown? Interesting time for government shutdown. Like tonight, if nothing happens, yeah, yeah, it could. So Mike Johnson is helping to prevent Grijalva from signing by not bringing the house into session. Because if the house is brought, the second the house is brought into session to do business they have to swear in new members like that's just right that there's no way around that um he right now he's saying he's not he's like not bringing a house into session he wants to put uh pressure on democrats in the senate to own uh you know the the the shutdown for not voting for the stopgap funding bill that the house passed last week um but you know the the the fucking stop like the reason the democrats are even resisting is like uh you're taking all this
Starting point is 00:45:48 funding away from Medicaid, all these other social safety net programs, this is one of the few times there's leverage. So let's see what's up there. Don't know yet where that, which way that's going to go. We don't know. But keep in mind, these people did vote for a Charlie Kirk Memorial Day recently. So we'll see what kind of, what kind of resistance they're able to sort of present to this. Also, the point that you're raising there, Miles, is the leverage, I would say, is that this is forcing the GOP to come out in the open even further with Project 2025 and attacking one of their strongest voting blocks, which is angry old people. Angry old people who are doing well enough to not know what's happening outside of their houses in any way.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Insulated just enough that you are now, you've now settled into the end of American life phase where you just watch outrage news all day inside and pretend you know what's happening. By the only contact with the outside world is Fox News. Yep, great, great, great. So in this context, it is interesting that Marjorie Taylor Green has come through because she is on the yes, we'll vote
Starting point is 00:47:01 to have these files released side of the ledger. And she has said, I told them, you didn't get me elected. I do not work for you. I work for my district. We aren't supposed to just be whipping on our vote. whipping on our votes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah. Whipping on our votes. Well, because the whip is the person who gets the votes together, yeah. Got it. Yeah. We aren't supposed to be whipping on our votes because they're telling us what to do with this scary threat or saying, we'll primary you or that we won't get invited to the White House events. Me personally, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm like, fuck you. And that coincides with her saying, I am not suicidal. I am not thinking of harming myself in any way. If something were to happen to me, look up towards the elite. You will know, look into whatever happens to me. Very, I'm like, what are they saying to you? Because right now you just said they're going to primary you or you won't get invited into a White House event, which I know does feel like violence to maga sycophants.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Like that's the highest height you can arrive at. But I agree with you. It was a weird escalation. And here in the fair metropolis of Atlanta, we get a lot of heat. from Marjorie Taylor Green. I'm not sure who is voting for this person and
Starting point is 00:48:21 it's a study in the increasingly like wrestling level era of politics. People are just running out there doing Undertaker Stone Cold Steve Austin moves. And I'm like, aren't you supposed
Starting point is 00:48:37 to read shit and like vote on it? Nope. I'm basically Paul Bearer. you know, Undertaker's sidekick who just goes, whoa, are the Epstein files? Like, are you going to be about something or what? Or he's going to get hit with a folding chair every time?
Starting point is 00:48:56 I mean, at this point, just buy the dirigible. You know what I mean? Get a dirigible. Down in Atlanta, you guys also get hit with a lot of heat from the sun. That place is warm as hell. Yeah. I do think we can expect anytime that somebody comes out pretty strongly, like, in a anti-Trump take that's like on that side of the ledger it seems like in the following days
Starting point is 00:49:20 they come through with like something super anti-Semitic you know like with tugger carlson like they i feel like there's some manner of like right wing politics where it's like okay so i am like kind of going against dear leader here but that's because i'm like this type of hyper right Wayne person. Yeah. So, you know, not that she isn't on the record about anti-Semitism. She's pretty wild. She's pretty on the record.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I mean, we all know her as the Jewish space lasers lately. Yeah, I would say she's ugly on the record, but that's a joke that the Simpsons probably would already write later. Yeah, I got to tell you guys, I love the point about the over-correction thing because we know it gets so cartoonish, right? Everybody is in a race to be the most extreme in the wrestling milieu, right? Yeah, yeah. This, you ever heard about this Donald Trump guy?
Starting point is 00:50:24 He's a little too moderate for me. Yeah, yeah. You know, if he was a real conservative, right? Like, what's the no true Scotsman kind of rhetorical fallacy? If he was a real conservative, he'd be rounding up the Welsh and those left-handers. Right, right, right. I mean, God, don't be a Welsh left-hander, though. Oh, no, they'll get you.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Not in this America. I thought you were going to say you liked the point that I was making about. No, Atlanta, taking a lot of heat from the sun. I do like it. I do like it, Jack. And they don't call it Hot Atlanta for nothing. Oh, you, you let's have that locked and loaded. We do need to talk about this Trump tweet where he basically just posted an AI-generated video of a Fox News segment where a fake.
Starting point is 00:51:11 A.I. Laura Trump proclaims that Trump was opening the first medbed medbed hospitals with med beds are right-wing conspiracy theory about technologically advanced beds that have all kinds of like magical healing properties. And he was like, oh, shit, I'm doing that. That's so tight. Yeah, we'll play this. This is so weird. I don't know. Yeah, we'll get into the why of it. But here's a little bit. Again, you're hearing an AI generated Laura Trump in an AI generated fox. news segment in which an AI-generated Donald Trump will also give a comment on this quote-unquote news story. Breaking now. President Donald J. Trump has announced a historic new health care system, the launch of America's first medbed hospitals and a national medbed card for every citizen. A national medbed card? A national med-bed card? With it, you'll have guaranteed access to our new hospitals led by the top doctors in the nation, equipped with the most advanced technical.
Starting point is 00:52:11 in the world. These facilities are safe, modern, and designed to restore every citizen to full health and strength. This is the beginning of a new era in American health care. In this first phase. Anyway, so he sounded like it was 2012. I know. He looked great in that fake video.
Starting point is 00:52:34 He retweeted. I didn't realize there was a quote from him in the thing that he obviously were his brain in working order would have known he didn't say that shit yeah again that's like it's like the one version is he's so senile that he goes oh yeah oh okay it's kind of like that thing like when you are
Starting point is 00:52:56 kind of getting to that air of like the sort of senility where you don't want to admit you forgot something so you're going to be like oh yeah I remember that shit people are like yeah you remember you said that on zeitgeist and like uh huh yeah I remember everything I said on zeitgeist Every day. 5,000 episodes.
Starting point is 00:53:13 That's how good my memory is. You know what I mean? So that's a first version. Yeah, the first version is that, and that's just as, I mean, that's, to me,
Starting point is 00:53:23 that's feasible. Because why do this? The other version is, you know, his polling is so, it's getting worse and worse. And I know that, again,
Starting point is 00:53:33 it does, polling doesn't matter to an autocratic regime because they will do whatever they need to to functionally stay in power. But Trump's ego does need, he does need
Starting point is 00:53:42 to feel that he is winning hearts and minds and it feels like in a weird way, this is him just like throwing some fantasy seeds out to like the conspiracy people who are they like, yes, he acknowledged it, yes, there are med beds that cure cancer and can help regrow limbs. Yeah. You didn't know, dude? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I mean, again, that even feels like, it's just so hard to even know because that's like even stupid, That's even dumber to be like, you're going to just lie and say that magic shit exists to try and get people on your side because he's even, he's pulling underwater in everything except for like border security. And even that's been going down on a pretty consistent trajectory. God, it's depressing that it's not already underwater. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's still, I mean, it's, it's amazing though, how like, because I think the other thing, too, is you look at how like the Democrats were like, democracy.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You've got to save democracy. And people are like, dude, what? I have, like, fucking bills to pay. And that is one of the reasons why people were like, I don't know, man, fucking Biden's not getting it done. Maybe Trump's going to do it. But I think the same way, the right is completely misreading why people voted for them. It's not because they're like, yeah, man, do med beds and, like, round everybody up.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Like, it was still the thing that spoke to them on a very basic level. Not everybody, but a lot of low information people still thought something to do with the economy was going to happen. And with no movement on that, that's definitely. like beginning to color people's perceptions, not the MAGA people, but like the people who suddenly were like, yeah, fuck it. I think I can just shoot myself in the foot and it'll be okay. Yeah, leopards ate my face and so on, right? These folks are, when I say these folks, I mean, it sounds like the administration is clearly scrambling for stuff that seems like a win or stuff that seems somehow positive, however fraudulent, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:41 like we were talking earlier about the difference between hyperbaric chambers, which are a real thing, right? Efficacy aside, just tend to merge that one, but they are a real thing people can buy or go to versus medbeds. I think we're all immediately thinking of the film, Elysium, there are notable things there and thank you to Dune.
Starting point is 00:56:08 For me it's a Bacta Tank from Star Wars. The Bacta Tank classic. So is there any real med bed? This is just horseshit, right? No. No, there is no. There's no such thing as of course. There's no bed
Starting point is 00:56:25 that regrows your limbs. I think just checking. Doesn't this like tie in with FEMA? Isn't there also like some FEMA conspiracy where they're like they have the med beds already and they're just like I feel like I've seen this connected where they took an aerial picture of a FEMA camp and we're like there's oh that was the liners for coffins that was the FEMA conspiracy where they said you know what do you think inside those FEMA coffins dog mad beds are them coffins for us I will just say this is an interesting one way or
Starting point is 00:56:57 another like people say he's like too online as a president but like I guess I would be online, too, if all, like, just looking at social media, you were just, like, finding out cool shit that you did. You're just like, damn, I cured cancer. I can retweet that I cured cancer? I invented the moonwalk. All right. You're just sitting there and being like, wow, that's actually pretty sick. Congratulations to me.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I thought it was a guy who played turbo and break in taught Michael Jackson out of the moonwalk. I guess not. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back and explain why you shouldn't tape your mouth shut. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know.
Starting point is 00:58:09 A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
Starting point is 00:58:58 America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hi there. This is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight. People using axes in really terrible ways, disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart podcast present.
Starting point is 01:00:11 IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital. and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone.
Starting point is 01:01:07 These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book, make deals. Let's get models in.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back I got the fucking medical tape off my mouth yeah so this is a trend that we've known about since we found out about the morning routine of that one influencer who
Starting point is 01:02:23 and even before that yeah yeah I guess it's been going on right That's where I'm mainly, that's like where I get my visceral image of somebody pulling tape off their mouth from. Yeah, yeah, big old thick strip of tape. It, like, gives you a talking cartoon mouth where it's like, ah, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Wait, wait, wait, wait, first off, before he continue, I'm asking on behalf of the Zykeg, how are you guys plugged into this? Like, how did you become aware of this demographic? Because you both immediately were like, oh yeah you know tape your mouth show i know i just from watching social media like tic talk videos because it's a it's like a thing you see a lot where people do like their morning routine like people be like i wake up and i take this tape off my mouth i'm like
Starting point is 01:03:10 what the fuck are y'all do yeah victor yeah sigma male routines there's a lot of it like it's just all this shit to optimize man fucking you got you got to have the fucking mouth taped up you know what i mean when i'm not on this show i mainly hang with sigmas and that's how i know I know about this cool trend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, right. Yeah, but it's just, it's just an arms race of like how all the different ways that you can, you know, improve, optimize your life, get your grind set, grinding even harder in your waking hours. But it's just like breathing specifically, right?
Starting point is 01:03:47 It's like, you know, you, you're now breathing through your nose. It can help with your snoring or sleep apnea, allegedly. very, and we are going to hit the hell out of that, allegedly. Yeah. Because doctors are once again reminding people. Once again reminding you, funny. Y'all, we were walking told you all two years ago. Could you please stop taping your mouth shut before going to sleep?
Starting point is 01:04:15 Because the, quote, benefits are modest, but the risks can include, quote, making sleep disorders like sleep apnea worse or even causing something called suffocation? Never heard of it. Don't give a fuck. Oh, wait, no, that's from the Papa Rote song. That's a real thing. I thought it was from the Papa Rote song.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Suffocation? I didn't have no idea about the shit. Got my life in two pieces. Suffocation. I was like, that's a sick made-up word. Yeah. That's a real thing. No breathing.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I thought it was a Dr. Seuss kind of word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's just so funny that, I mean, I get it. I have, like, I have allergies and shit. Sometimes I wake up with, like, maybe one nostril completely just plugged up and, like, maybe getting a third of the airflow in another one because of, like, sinus shit from allergies. The idea that you would then go from that to being like, so I should plug the part of my mouth that isn't the thing that turns into a rusty pipe at night? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Like, that freaks me the fuck out. Yeah, I get, I get real stuffed nose. And it's not a thing that I can anticipate heading to bed, like whether I'm going to wake up with a really stuffed up nose. Like, what are you? It's like a fucking stress dream. Yeah. The idea of doing this.
Starting point is 01:05:37 It feels like it gives you nightmares, you know? It feels like you're putting yourself in a hostage situation every time you pass out. Oh, let me tape myself up. I mean, what's next? Do you like tie yourself and hang upside down? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Okay, well, Ben, you're having to occur here. Hold on, and then you put anonymous posts on Craigslist saying, hey, come find me and free me. And then you leave a little bit of a, like a scavenger hunt all the way to your house. And then they can't die, hopefully. Free MedBed. Allegedly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Allegedly. Yeah. And then they pull the tape off your mouth. And the first thing they hear is a groan of pleasure that makes it clear that this was all just part of your sick thing. Oh, you sick, fuck. I knew it was another one of these. fuck why don't I keep falling for him just a good Samaritan
Starting point is 01:06:28 I'm in so much trouble this is a good Samaritan going place to place take it off he's still making that noise hmm put it back on put it back on put it back on he's coming
Starting point is 01:06:42 all right all right you just fucking pump the brakes on it here's not all right whatever that's too much these people are innocent they're good Samaritan they're good Samar Why are we dragging them through the fucking mud?
Starting point is 01:06:54 It's just funny how like, especially with TikTok in the in the lockdowns truly just became this place where you can just say fucking anything. And if it gets enough views, people are like, yeah, that's true. That's medical science. That's medicine right there. Tape mouth. Good. Got it. Ready.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I did my own research, you guys, which is these other three TikToks. Yeah, exactly. And, uh, and I'm, I'm super plugged in the only way. to avoid hepatitis is to always be gently holding an egg in the crook of your right elbow. Right, that's true.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And that is a fact. And if your scientific information was so scientifically accurate and rigorous, then why didn't it go viral? Mm-hmm, exactly, you know? Why has it only got a couple hundred views? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Losers at the CDC. I've lived 12 past lives. Watch me run through them all in a selfie video. Speed run selfie of re-cardation. And that was my caveman person who I was seven million years ago. All right. Well, we talked at the top of the show and on yesterday's episode about the Riyadh Comedy Festival,
Starting point is 01:08:07 where they are bringing some of the biggest comedians to comedy wash the reputation of the Saudi royal family. Live golf all over again. Oh, yeah. Live golf. And now we are going to be. maddenwashing their reputation because they have bought electronic arts, one of the biggest video game companies in the world. They're set to go private after 36 years of being a publicly traded company and they're being bought for $55 billion by the private equity firm, Silver Lake
Starting point is 01:08:38 Partners, Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund. All right. And affinity part, I don't know it. So it's, you know, partially being owned by Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund. Yeah. And also a private equity firm that's run by Jared Kushner. So, you know. Right. Jared Kushner, MBS, running EA, you know what I mean? Now.
Starting point is 01:09:03 King shit. Literally. Exactly. Exactly. So Sigma. I bet that guy, I bet that guy sleeps with tape. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He has a roll of it by the bed. He has like a little bit of a different thing where he can't sleep unless he is laying on a bed of people whose mouths are taped and also blindful. Oh, my God, they haven't seen their family.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah, this is just so, like, a part of me is thinking, okay, obviously they want to do that because EA is one of the biggest fucking game developers out there. And if you own that, then what? Like, you're going to change, like, the, like, Madden to have a Saudi Arabian team in? Like, I'm curious how they're going to push the soft power of video games. I'm like, what are they going to do when they're like, oh, yeah, actually, you know, I don't even know. I don't even know what, what are they going to like upend games like Battlefield or Madden or Eafc or something, like their biggest titles to somehow be like, oh man, this is a sick new player you can play with in this game. It's actually like the cultural minister of Saudi Arabia has a hell of an arm.
Starting point is 01:10:08 That's a Bernays level propaganda, isn't it? Like, hey, forget about Khashoggi. We're going to put these new players in. They're overpowered. They all happen to be in the royal family. right right and if you subscribe to the uh dlc you might get to play with our boy jkush oh yeah he's like tyson and punch out yeah yeah wasn't what a jared kush should be playing a fucking running back or some shit and madden i don't know if he i mean i don't know how they would cook
Starting point is 01:10:39 the stats on that it would be frankly a uh fantasy hire but also let's not lose hope private equity firms ruin stuff, right? Yeah. That's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck. Maybe this is that for them.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I mean, I do think having an inexhaustible fund of money coming out of the ground in Saudi Arabia is probably helpful. Yeah, yeah. I could definitely see like a plug-in, like a pack that you get where you like can like playable billionaires and. Or, you know, or like the or just sort of the. the basic premise of certain video games will no longer be like
Starting point is 01:11:22 sort of game-washing American imperialism. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, EA's for our own propaganda in the United States. You're like, I like army. Blow that up. I like this. That maybe they'll just include other nations.
Starting point is 01:11:38 But, I mean, I think regardless, like the consolidation of media under these powerful people is always a bad thing. The one hope I have is that like independent developers, like, I feel like people who play games enough and I'd be like, well, this game fucking sucks now with all this dumb messaging about, like, whatever the fuck this is. I just wanted to kill brown people
Starting point is 01:11:59 indiscriminately. Like, I used to. Now, why are they old journalist? Yeah, exactly. These are the wrong MPCs. Yeah, right, exactly. They're coming at you with a clipboard, notebook. Tactical strike. They have a recorded conversation of you. Yeah, it's, uh, we'll see, we'll see, but, uh, it just, again, I guess, that's the other part is like I think even like with movies and things like that I'm hoping that
Starting point is 01:12:23 Elaine emerges like with all this consolidation that allows for you know a release where people go like yeah actually I like this independent stuff better now it speaks more to my humanity but I think that's going to be a bit of a long process because they have all the money right now yeah all the all the rich people are buying all the things you know so it's going to have to come from independent creators it feels like more and more hey all right Zyke and Can we crowd fund $55 billion right now? Quick $55 billion and a dollar to be their best offer. There we go.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Price is right. Yeah, exactly. Ben Bolin, pleasure having you, as always, on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Well, leaning on what Miles established way earlier, I'll say you can find me anywhere with an at sign. Thank you, Miles. calling myself in a burst of creativity at Ben Bowlin.
Starting point is 01:13:19 You can hang out on stuff they don't want you to know. You can find us on ridiculous history, guest hosting on wrongful conviction. The U.S. justice system is broken. So we do on that show talk with people who have managed to escape being falsely convicted for crimes they did not commit. That's crazy. When are you doing Trump? what are you doing Trump thank you
Starting point is 01:13:46 oh man pretty soon he's like get me on that show oh my gosh we'll just do an AI photo of it and it'll retweet and he'll be like favorite interview
Starting point is 01:13:58 of my life of my life and I did it I did it and I did it when I started this show all right my Trump accent is terrible
Starting point is 01:14:07 comes and goes it has its moments Ben is very kind is there a work of media you've been enjoying. Yes, several, but I'd like to ask you guys to play a game as we end. One piece of media that I've enjoyed recently, I rediscovered a book called Depraved and Insulting English. Oh. Yeah, it's English is a weird language, right? So this is just a bunch of weird English words. And what I'd like to do is flip through this and let's find a word together and let's see if it's funny. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:43 So I'm starting to flip now. Just say when. Stop this big completely. This is our show. Okay. And we're not going to do segments that you just create on the whim. But okay, go on. I'll play your game.
Starting point is 01:14:55 All right. Okay. So we're on the page that Miles said. All right. Finger running up and down. Say stop. Wait, is it like a dictionary? Like it's just,
Starting point is 01:15:02 is that how it's sort of laid out? That's why you're like just indiscriminately like petting this page. Okay. Alphabetic. Jack, you pick one. Stop. Beslobber. To cover with slop.
Starting point is 01:15:12 kisses also to be foul with spittle or anything else running from the mouth. These guys aren't wearing tape. Wow. Bisslobber is so wild. Like a spittocker. That makes me uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Do you hear something called beslobbered? I don't know. Justin, we may have to cut this one. His beslobred speaking style was truly off-putting. I worked for a fucking... A beslobberer?
Starting point is 01:15:34 Dude. Like food, like fucking food would get on you. Be slobbered. You know what I mean? Like just shit. I remember, I should have known because when I interviewed for this job, this guy was eating pasta al-Wongolet.
Starting point is 01:15:46 He was eating clam linguine. What? And I was getting hit with clam shards from across this table. It was like shards. He was eating shards. Yeah, dude, like the fucking penguin in Batman,
Starting point is 01:15:59 just fucking and he was wearing a big onesie. Like Oswald Cobblepot, like Danny DeVito's penguin character. Anyway. Well, I'm glad it didn't work out because now you're on Daily Side guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it did. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:16:16 Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, everywhere. Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Every, everywhere. Everywhere. Find me everywhere there. Also find me talking 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé, work of media.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Like, this post on Blue Sky is from at the world's greatest writer.com. June Martin posted, Medbed that jacks you off. Medbed that gives you a tender hug. Medbed that gives you a tender hug and jacks you. off. Medbed, that curves cratim addiction and jacks you off. So stupid.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Oh, man. That's amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien Blue Sky, Jack O'Bee, the number one. I enjoyed a tweet from Matthew with an at in the A place. Only one T.
Starting point is 01:17:04 At tweet Potato 314, he tweeted, at my second rodeo. Listen up, you ignorant sack of shit. You can find us on Twitter at Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes. We're at the Daily Zekeyes on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes,
Starting point is 01:17:32 which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, there's a producer called ZEP, Z-E-P, featuring the artist Moses Ufi, Y-O-O-O-F-E. The track is called, I Don't Mind, it's all one word, and it's just a nice, like, fucking dance track. I like it's got like, it's, there's like, I'm trying to figure out there, there's a sample in there that I think is a rap sample, but I can't quite figure it out. Or it could just be someone going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Either one, it's a fucking dope track, good energy that you will need to use, to train your body and mind to endure the next however many years before whatever, whatever happens.
Starting point is 01:18:18 However many. Yeah, listen to this. Put this in your rapture playlist when you're getting right with God, okay? This will help. So this is Zef with, I don't mind. All right. We will lick off to that in the foot notes. The Daily Zykeyes, a production of IHeart Radio for more podcasts from IHeartRadio,
Starting point is 01:18:32 visit the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. and we will talk to you all then. Bye. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Bay Way. Co-produced by Victor Wright.
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