The Daily Zeitgeist - Media: “Sry 4 Islamophobia”, Ben Shapiro Disney Hero? 10.18.23

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 309 episode 3 of your daily zeitgeist day production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October 18th, 2023. What are we looking at? Oh, man. First, it's, I don't even know what the fuck, National Exascale Day. It's apparently about the scientists who make breakthroughs, discoveries. But it's from the 10th century.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with this one. But, hey, I know what's going on here. International Legging Day. Yeah. Law Day USA. National No Beard Day.

Shout out me who cannot grow no beard ever. Medical Assistance Recognition Day. Shout out to all the medical assistants out there. National Chocolate Cupcake Day. Hagfish Day. And it says support your local chamber. Man, fuck your local chamber of commerce. Fuck your local chamber of commerce day.

Wait, wait. Wait, hagfish get a day? Yeah, yeah. Hagfish deserve a day. Do they? You've seen those damn things? Joey, everything gets a fucking day. Let me tell you.

Everything gets a day. I guess it's just hagfish feels like low on the priority list of things that should get days. I'm just hot take, I know. Oh, yeah. No, I get it. I'm just hot take, I know. Oh, yeah. No, I get it. I get it. We've celebrated things.

We've celebrated slime eels, occasionally snot snakes. I feel like whoever's coming up with nicknames for them maybe shouldn't go as hard on them, and then maybe we wouldn't need to give them a damn day. Actually, yeah, you're right. This isn't necessary. Maybe just the name. They're called hagfish.

Hagfish is not a great name to start with. And then, oh, you don't like hagfish? Okay. How about slime eel, asshole? Yeah. Oh, not that either? Okay. We'll go with snot snake.

It does sound like they're being named by bullies. Yeah. I mean, what if they were called just like gummy buddies or something like that? Then we'd all be celebrating them. I'd love gummy buddy day. Slippo, pals. Apparently, their slime was being researched by the Navy because it was such a strong, stronger than nylon.

But hey, then how would you sell nylon? So they probably- Slidy guys. Shout out to DuPont. Okay, so I've switched on this. I'm glad Hagfish have a day, but I think they got a real PR problem. I think so.

Yeah, that's right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. They talk to you in your sleep, sitting on a shelf. They creep me out. I do not trust these dolls with bones. Doll bones. Doll bones. Doll bones.

Doll bones. I'm begging of you, please don't take my bones. That is courtesy of.decoydecoy on the Discord. And we've got some new lore, courtesy of this song in the expanded Bones and Doll cinematic universe.

The bones that they, the doll, the dolls with bones, they get their bones from taking your bones. That makes sense now. Very scary. I'm going to have the AI write a movie about that now. And their bones are their money.

Anyways. It's okay for me to reference. I think you should leave. I think. I'm going to say it's okay. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, aka I astral project myself away sometimes. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. I astral project myself away sometimes.

I'm like mayo. Best foods, mayo. Shout out to Blinky Heck for that dynamite. Teo Cruz, a.k.a. Talking about Mike Pence, who likes to astrally project himself out of confrontation. And his favorite food is definitely mayo. Like he's the only person with a worse answer to what is your favorite meat. Like, you know, Romney was my favorite meat is hot dog.

His would be mayo somehow. And he would probably be like, oh, I like to eat it like how Winnie the Pooh eats honey. Just a big old pot of it. And I just scoop it out into my mouth. Yeah. He gets in like a wrestling onesie or something. Just lays down a mat and goes to town. Yeah, like a Dexter Kill Room.

Yeah, exactly. His wife's like, oh, honey, you having dinner early tonight? Going into the mayo Dexter Kill Room. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat yes voice you've already heard from a brilliant tv writer performer who's written on shows for nickelodeon cartoon network dreamworks is a writer and producer on the netflix animated series spirit rangers which dropped its second season earlier this year uh has season three dropping in 2024 also the creator of the brilliant web

series gone native which we will link off to in the footnotes it is a must watch please welcome back to this show the hilarious the talented joey cliff everybody i'm a joey cliff i'm uh oh god oh Oh, God. Oh, shit. Come on. Yeah, I'm really... I'm on a trip. I'm fantastic. Podcast guest. Okay, so it's always... Whenever I guest on this show, I always forget that you do... Yeah, I always forget that you do the song parody thing. So there's always a panic 30 seconds where I'm like,

oh, shit, what's a popular song? What the fuck am I gonna do? We don't always do it. We just like to... Yeah. We look for when the person looks especially like they would not do well with the challenge and then we sing the song to really freaking freak you out okay i promise the next time i'm gonna like produce something i'm gonna have a drop i'm gonna have a beat i'll be ready next time okay help joey out Joey out with a song for next time Yeah

Lift, Clift, Sift, Rift Yeah we got a few Yeah that was pretty much all the words Drift What else Joey Clift on I literally just panicked and googled Popular songs

And was just like Okay what can I do Joey Clift funks you up Joey Clift funks you up Okay does that work songs and was just like, okay, what can I do? Okay, up, down, fuck. Joey Clift funks you up. Joey Clift funks you up. Okay, does that work? That was my brain for 30 seconds. Just like, oh, Daft Punk's get lucky. Could I do anything with that?

Up all night to get Joey. I mean, there you go. It's shit rights itself. How are you doing, Joey? How have you been? Yeah, I'm doing so good. Yeah, I got to say, this has been a really fun year for me. I got really into like personal training. Like I got a personal trainer back in January to get in shape for my first and only pro wrestling match in March. And I did not win the match, but it was very fun.

But basically, I've been doing this battle with myself over the past year to try to not make fitness my whole personality. And I feel like I've been losing. I feel like whenever I talk to friends on the phone now, I have to call them while I'm on a treadmill getting my steps in or something

like that. Sure. Yeah. Wow. And you are in a dead sprint as we record this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're very in great lung capacity as well. Yeah. You are in a dead sprint as we record. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm in a dead sprint and I'm lifting a 500 pound weight over my head while I'm talking to this microphone. With a 70 pound lead vest on.

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so are you, when you said you, wait, so you were in a, dial this back. So you're in a wrestling match and you're like, shit, I gotta get ready. Like, were you packing on like pounds or you're in a wrestling match and you're like shit i gotta get ready like were you packing on like pounds or you're just like i want to just have the performative strength to get through the wrestling mat like we're we're what what okay so so it's a little bit of both like i the match was in march and i knew in late march and i knew that the match

was going to happen in january so i guess that like i wanted, I didn't want what was funny about the match to be me being extremely out of shape and skinny. Like I didn't want somebody to like, I didn't want to walk into the ring and people to be like, oh, you might get hurt. Someone plays a sad trombone as you take your robe off. Yeah, for sure. For sure. For sure. And there was a robe. I definitely spent way too much money and time on entrance gear and ring gear.

Oh, hell yeah. I would spend all of my money. So I started working with personal trainer to like, you know, like I put on probably about 20 pounds of like, you know, weight, muscle and stuff like that. Damn. And then, you know, just like increased strength and stuff like that. Basically, just to not look like the frail writer that I am 90 percent of my life. Right. Right.

And what would you how would you describe your physique now? You've gone from frail writer to. Oh, so I would say you can definitely see me in this zoom i'm very schwarzenegger i'm taking up the whole frame do not have a neck anymore i miss being able to turn my head you filed a big gap in between your teeth to be like early arnold oh 100 100 yeah i would say that my right now is like fine and i'm working very hard for it to be just okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, that's amazing. Do you use the word macros frequently when talking to people?

Yes, and I hate it. Oh, man. I'm to the point where I'm very opinionated about brands of protein shake and Greek yogurt. It's the worst. So I never got to macro. I don't know. i i i'm trying not to learn i think i hear it all the time and i just have to be like oh yeah for sure for sure okay so macros it's just like basically uh like my personal trainer sends me macros it's basically

like here's how many calories you should every day here's how much protein here's how many carbs here's much fat and all that oh it's not a substance and it's consumed my life wait it's not like from the macrodamia nut oh i mean look it could be i mean look macadamia it's not the rival to micro machines yeah yeah macro machines just huge machines now you know micro machines presupposes macro machines. I'm just saying. Who are the ad wizards who came up with this? All right, Joey,

we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to check in with the State of Congress and the Speaker gavel, all that bullshit.

Joe Biden finally took some action and arrested Jewish protesters calling for a ceasefire we'll talk about the bbc setting a record for the most half-assed correction for islamophobic coverage we will talk about bent key a new bizarro disney plus for right wingers that name too i know right yeah that's got to be a dog whistle for something right yeah yeah right like what does that mean like for like a latchkey kid who's like breaking out like what why is the key bent like i haven't figured it out yet and we've got a team working working on it around the clock yeah maybe they misspelled bentley yeah it could be. All of that, plenty more. But first, Joey, we do like

to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or where you're at? Okay, so aside from constantly Googling macros and protein, I would say, so I live in Los Angeles and a lot of my friends are, you know, actors and writers. So my Google search history is honestly a lot of me Googling my friends names to make sure i'm spelling their names correctly there's just a lot of like oh my friends on a podcast i want to send them a text and say like hey blah blah blah but like wait how do you spell their first name right just google them they're on tv eric is it yeah it's eric but is it with a C or a K? A K. Yeah, yeah, right. You never know.

You never know. Impossible to know. I sometimes have to, my dad has a Wikipedia page and I will check his birth year frequently on there because I can never remember how old he is. Really? Yeah. And I think the fact that he's had a Wikipedia page for the past, you know, since Wikipedia was the thing, has made it so that I just never had to learn. Wow. Yeah.

I got to say, like, having a Wikipedia page is the nicest thing that you can do for your friends. Because, like, I've done the exact same thing of just like, okay, when is my friend's birthday? Right. Exactly. Where were they born again? Oh, Ohio. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah i never read beyond the birthday so i don't know shit about him to be honest it's the wrong guy he's like what yeah man damn you're looking great for 340 if i fucking looked up the wrong one again yeah you're uh you're a French philosopher from the 19th century, right?

Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? So something that I think is overrated is pretty much everything that came out of the Italian Renaissance. I mean, if you think about it, the Mona Lisa, just a painting of some lady. Parachutes were invented in the Renaissance. Hey, maybe just get better at flying. Yeah. Also, Christopher Columbus. F that guy. Hey, maybe just get better at flying. Yeah. Also, Christopher Columbus,

F that guy. He was just good at getting lost places. And then being like, it's exactly the place I was looking for, actually. Actually? Yeah. So what a trash artistic period. Yeah.

Generally, the flying machines that they went with and died trying out are very stupid. Like the amount of misses and just embarrassing attempts that happened throughout really puts into perspective anybody from that that we want to call a genius. Come on.

We're like, yeah, from our perspective, we have supersonic flight. Yeah. Nice try with your ornithopter yeah yo did da vinci have an ipod i don't think so yeah exactly call me when you invent metallica that's right yeah and their music was weak right right? Yeah. Also, did you... Okay, so this is a little bit off topic. Did y'all know that Metallica made a third Unforgiven song?

There was Unforgiven 1 and Unforgiven 2, which are these famous metal songs. They made an Unforgiven 3 in 2008. I listened to it, and it's awful. It is the worst song I've ever heard in my life. I stopped at Unforgiven 1. I didn't even know about Unforgiven 2. No, Unforgiven 1 is a good song. Unforg in my life i stopped at unforgiven one i didn't even know about unforgiven two no unforgiven one is like a good song unforgiven two is like i think around

the same ballpark area of the second unforgiven but unforgiven three which happened which came out in 2007 is not good oh what at that point just like were they you think they're just fighting that itch to be like we got to make it a trilogy man i can't just leave it with some two two work act this is a fucking three-parter yeah yeah people we really left people hanging after unforgiven two yeah three or one like yeah the crowd is just begging for it hey man when we're gonna get whoop there it is too like uh adam's family or something yeah i think more songs have i would say narrative loose ends that need to be tied up in a sequel well that's the thing is that like when your song has a sequel you know that you have like it feels like they went very corporate and like like started there's

like a marketing part of their brain that took over and was like involved in. And they're like, well, what if we made a part two of this song? Like, are there other famous songs with sequels that are just like this song part two? had a song called Synchronicity and they also released a Synchronicity 2. Okay. I mean, but yeah, it's like there's not like a, yeah, like, woomp, there it is, 2 would be, I would love that. That would be great. We were just talking about how they did do that, but they did it for a movie. So for a movie sequel. Yeah. Just like, who let the dogs out? The prequel. Yeah. There was the guy who let the dogs out. It's called Jeff Let the Dogs Out. Oh, man. No, Jeff really let the dogs out Jeff let the dogs out no Jeff really let the dogs out wow okay

Jay Z had a sequel to excuse me miss that was like informally called excuse me miss again that was on the bad boys 2 soundtrack okay yeah it's like there's remixes right remixes are good but like they are pretty

upfront about the fact that they are just taking a previous thing and mixing it up. It's not a new creation. I don't know. Metallica seems like... I really like the Beach Boys, and there's this battle between

Brian Wilson and Mike Love during the key point of their career and like brian wilson made pet sounds and it didn't sell that well and mike love was like see like i knew you you're an idiot you didn't know what you were doing and like kind of use that to like rest control and like mike love's thing was always like people just want to hear us sing about like babes and surfing right fast cars dude like and like i feel like metallica had that similar thing where like they had two wolves inside them to make it metallica as fuck and like one of them was like we're operating

off a spreadsheet and and the spreadsheet guy won when they went to therapy as a band. Right. Yeah. They were like, we can be mad or we can make money. Right. Everybody want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is something that you think is underrated?

Okay. So this is going to be a very hot take, but candy corn is a very underrated candy. I know that Halloween just around the corner. I know. I can see the looks on your face as you immediately were like, this guy. You've gone and done it, Joey. Yeah, I know that Halloween's just around the corner. I know, I can see the looks on your faces. You immediately were like, this guy. You've gone and fucking done it, Joey. Yeah, I know. It's like, look, the internet really shits on candy corn,

but I'm going to say, I've never turned down a good candy corn. I'm always so excited about candy corn. Whenever Halloween comes around and I get like, you know, I'm following my macros, I'm trying to be careful. But like, candy corn for me is worth having like a cheap meal over. Like, I don't know.

It's just a good, it's just like, how do you describe the taste? Yeah, what's the flavor of candy corn? How would you, yeah, someone that likes it. How would you describe it? What would someone call it? Like vanilla butter? Yeah. I mean, honestly, that's pretty accurate.

Yeah. I'm just saying, I like vanilla. I like butter. Yeah. It's like, it's just like hardened frosting. It's for sure all artificial flavor, but I kind of like it. I love frosting.

Also, I've got to say, producer Victor in the chat just posted, thank you, as if I'm a hero who finally said, who finally had the courage to say what we've all been thinking. Because we've been so hostile, especially me.

I cannot hide my hostility towards candy. I just fucking don't understand. Every time I eat it, I'm like, this is boring. I don't like it. This is how you know it's in the zeitgeist. We talked about it yesterday. And now we're back.

Look, I just think candy corn, it's like a top tier Halloween candy for me. Bottom tier is for sure, like I would say either Smarties or those like peanut butter things that are wrapped in like wax paper. It's like lazy taffy. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Peanut butter taffy. Yeah.

Anything that is taffy based that is not fruit flavored, but is like peanut butter or like Tootsie Rolls, I'm not a fan of. Like I don't want taffy that is anything other than tart fruit flavored but is like peanut butter or like tootsie rolls i'm not a fan of like i don't i don't want taffy that is anything other than tart fruit flavored but candy corn is not does not fall into that category for me candy corn is its own thing which i i think you hit the nail on the head that it really is just hardened frosting which i will i love frosting yeah i love frosting i love frosting give me more frosting yeah what if it was what if it was denser what if frosting was dense exactly it used to be called chicken feed i didn't know that that was its it was its initial name product name in the late 1880s i'm really curious to

see what happened if you'd feed that to a chicken. Yeah. They will die instantly. They just explode. Or they would be awesome. Just, you know, it's only two options. The chicken becomes incredible. What are your feelings on the pumpkins, Joey?

So just pumpkins as a whole or the pumpkin candy? They are sometimes found with candy corn. pumpkins, Joey? So just pumpkins as a whole or the pumpkin candy? The pumpkin, like they are sometimes found with candy corn. They are basically the same thing as candy corn but more orange. Like a little bit more unnatural because they're like really bright orange and green.

Okay, good. If you were asking me about pumpkin the squash-based vegetable, my response would be, fuck them. Pumpkins are fine i fucking hate gourds yeah but uh okay so i'm gonna say like now that i'm thinking about it i think that look if i have like a thing if i have like a pile of candy corn and a pile of candy pumpkins i'm gonna go for that candy corn every time but if there's a table with like candy pumpkins on it and no candy corn i'm

probably gonna have a couple candied pumpkins it's like it's probably it's like half half a step below but it like scratches a similar itch yeah right that yeah they're they're just they're they're very similar but there's something i love about the pumpkins like that that having that much of it together in a ball, like really solidifies like, yes, this is bad. Yeah. This is horrible and sinful. I think it's just the answer.

I think the question is how much hard frosting do you want? Yeah. And give it all. Yeah. No, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no. Have we won you over? I'm just looking at the pictures and I don't know what I have to like go to therapy, back to therapy and figure out what why I'm so upset at these things. Because now I'm like, I don't know if this is even healthy.

Like, am I do I just hate it because of an I'm going to try it again. I do it every year because enough people come on the show and And they're like, no, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. And then I even like, this is, I just don't, I don't know. But they are saying it as an underrated thing. Most people hate it, Miles. And so you should, if you don't like it, I don't feel like you need to.

No, everyone in the mainstream is saying this is the way to go. So I got to do it or i will be fucking alienated yeah i mean i definitely have not invited you to parties because i thought you wouldn't like the candy corn there so yes and that's and i respect that i respect that i respect that oh i'm looking at just googling candy corn seeing some candy corn on the cob possibilities here i'm not sure what the cob is made out of. Hopefully not just like Play-Doh, but that's really fun.

I'm not sure if I want that much candy corn, but it does, it is a little enticing. Just by the time you're done, your front five teeth are all just rotted out of your head. I can't imagine. One thing I will say, there's something about the coloring of the original candy corn that is appealing to me more than

there there are some like i've seen rainbow candy corn leave that shit at home like leave that for the fruit candies like i the the yellow orange white combo is what I think what candy corn was intended to be. Yeah. I feel like multicolored candy corn. Stop trying to hide what you are. We know you. Yeah. Yeah.

And like there's also a brown one that I think is like trying to pretend that it's got a chocolate something or other. And that's also stop trying to live a lie. You are candy corn. You have very specific colors. Be proud of yourself. Some people love you for that. I that that's also stop trying to live a lie. You are candy corn. You have very specific colors. Be proud of yourself. Some people love you for that. Okay. That's me.

I love you for that candy corn. And I'm with you. Yeah. Candy corn is not your favorite candy though, right? Nah. Okay. So candy corn is not my favorite candy. I think it's probably one of my favorite Halloween specific candies.

I would say. Okay. So my favorite candy is. I think it's a tie between like York peppermint patties and this might've been a regional candy, but do you know Sixlets? No. You just made that up. So it's basically like, yeah, I just made it up. So it's basically like, it's basically like gas station M&M's.

It's M&M's you can pretty much only buy from a gas station. I do know these! They come in little tubes. More sugar on balls. Per M&M. Yeah, you can also buy them in like a carton of milk, but a carton of sixlets. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, they're just perfectly rounded instead of being lentil-shaped. Yeah, they have more more there's more candy shell per like chocolate and they're really they're really nice i i love a six lit great yeah amazing miles is just fuming right now no i just had to do a thing to be like candy corn racism and yeah it probably exists there's probably a thing about that to hate you uh and i'm reading all about like how like the sugar market being disrupted by world war one led to like a rise

in candy i'm gonna come back with a take down folks don't worry it's gonna be our whole thursday or our whole friday episode is yeah just that yeah oh wow you know why maybe this might be ingrained in me so back in like when the the candy industry was like coming you know like around the 20s and stuff that this is from npr the candy market was a racially differentiated one the more expensive varieties such as hand-dipped chocolate bonbons were aimed at young white women and middle-class children the cheap stick candy meanwhile was targeted african-american and immigrant irish and Chinese children. So interesting.

I'm like, that's what I'm saying. Like, oh, so they were feeding us the candy corn because it was the cheap shit, which is why I like the chocolate because I want access to what the middle class white children had. I think maybe that's what I'm feeling. Wait, what's the cheap stick candy that that's candy corn? I think they're talking about like stuff that is like the like the lollipops and stuff that was like pressed out like just sugar hardened sugar was like more like like or like uh you know a fucking what's like a lollipop kind of thing so candy corn is for the people yeah probably like your sugar babies and your sugar daddies and stuff like that it says no race creed or color in candy's appeal. Irish, Chinese and Negro lads snapped as one of San Francisco's candy.

Like as one. What? OK, so take a picture of. So my my. OK, so my my take on that is. Oh, yeah, that's awful. But also just like, oh, there's no native people in that picture. And that makes me feel not included.

Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. We're all losing. That's what I'm saying included yeah right right yeah we're all losing that's what i'm saying we're all losing we're all losing why isn't our representation of my people in this weird racist and this racist candy we were usually always part of turn of the century racist ads yeah all right let's uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.

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And we're replacing him, Kevin McCartney, with another creature of the swamp that might be lower than snake nipples. I don't even know. Lower than worm nipples, I guess. Okay. Okay. Yeah, so last time we checked, no one was even getting close to the 217 votes needed to get the speaker's gavel. But that was kind of before the MAGA machine kind of fully turned on over the weekend where they started bullying moderates. So, like, Sean Hannity was, like, just browbeating over the airwaves. like just browbeating over the airwaves uh like jordan jim jordan allies like because he kind of wants to be speaker started pulling people aside and you know just fucking beating them down in

person be like you really need to fucking vote for jim jordan don't be a fucking hoe so he's the he's the mega choice he's now emerging as the mega king okay and and this is talking like and going to people that like have said from the beginning, like I would never vote for this guy. People mentioned, you know, last week that he's an insurrectionist. True. That he has no care for reproductive rights. True. That he's not a serious politician. Also true. But it seems like some of the moderates, a.k.a. coward racists, were willing to block his confirmation for someone that made the party look slightly like less clownish. But sadly, we're talking about, you know, Republicans and their faux mag or fear of MAGA. I just coined that is getting the best of them. And right now it looks like Jordan is now only dealing with around 10 holdouts, but that's still enough to block him.

As of this recording, I don't know what is going to happen. There was one round of voting and jim jordan did not come close and everyone's like oh i don't know why you went and took it to a vote so but he can also do the kevin mccarthy thing the very brave thing which is to force another vote until people tire and eventually um do it but oh wait according to this one now there are 20 holdouts wait versus the holdoutsouts went up? Yeah, they went up. They were from 10 to 20. I think the betting spread was like people thought there were only going to be like six or seven holdouts or something like that.

But for there to be 20, it's like McCarthy, his first round of votes had 19 holdouts. So Jim Jordan's doing worse than McCarthy. Wow. And McCarthy was like historically futile. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize that they could just, they could do what police do

when they're trying to get a confession out of like innocent people. Right. Just like keep them there and be like, you can go home. All you have to do is just say yay. Just sign this and say yay.

When they call your name, sayordan okay right okay so uh what i think is really funny is i was actually i was watching the vote uh before we started recording and uh there's so much more applause than i thought that there would be in speaker votes it was like when jim jordan they called jim jordan's name and he said i vote for jim jordan everybody applauded yeah theakeem Jeffries was like, I'm voting for Hakeem Jeffries. Yeah. It's just like, that's my guy. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like when McCarthy voted for Jim Jordan, everybody was like, yeah, we did it as they're down 20 points. Right. There was a moment where I think Don Bacon, who's a Republican, he actually voted for he he voiced support for mccarthy because he's always been team mccarthy

and then this was on fox news and brian killmeade was on a hot mic and he's like fucking killing my dumb ass because it kind of gives you an idea of like the tension as they take these votes wait so who's killmeade's guy bacon mccarthy Bacon. McCarthy. Dumbass. Dumbass. They're all in. They want the MAGA guy. You know what I mean? Oh, he voted for McCarthy. No, I mean, well, I mean, Kilmeade as a pundit is always going to be team MAGA. So if right now all of their overlords are whispering sweet nothings into their ear to be like, it's got to be Jordan. Then that's what the media will do.

Wow. And so once one of these people is voted in, then they'll be able to do... Extend the government? Yeah, fund the government to avoid another shutdown potentially in mid-November. And along with a ton of other like you know just things we call legislation uh but as of right now they're just gonna be I think just hammering all day away being like can we get Jim there I don't know I don't know I don't know yeah well that's that's kind of the thought of like when there are future votes like there's a lot of people like a lot of

Republicans that said like okay we don't like him but like we'll give him the first vote. And if he's close, we'll keep voting for him. But like this, this I think actually happened with McCarthy, where it's like once you start to lose any support or people think that you're weak, he's going to like probably start to lose a lot more votes. Yeah, exactly. Because you don't want to be seen like you're you're caping for the dying brand. Yeah, totally. Totally. It's like I'll give you one. And it's like, if that works out, sure. But like, if you fail more than once, why would I keep voting for you? Right. Why do we think there's like so few like politicians who have any like promise or, you know, like we've talked about this earlier with Democrats and how like, as people are talking about, like, maybe they should have a different candidate like besides Biden since Biden's so old but then like the options are fairly limited right

and like similarly here it feels like it's just there's not there's like the big stars that everybody's been paying attention to but then it's it's pretty like sparse down below to the point that like Jim Jordan jordan is the is their number one option i mean they're like a unifying theory of like why this is so fucked well he is like the the darling of like the far right within the house okay so he is popular yeah he was one of the holdouts with like matt gates and you know kind of like those folks yeah and so like he has like he's got the MAGA cred and that's what I think keeps a lot of moderates sort of off balance because like you have people who are like

truly last week were like I'll never vote for him that over the weekend something happened they're like I think that he is the one who could unify the party you're like what the fuck are you being held at gunpoint it's like well yeah I changed my, I changed my mind. I love him. I love him so much. So it's just the Republicans being split and not like that's why there's been such difficulty getting a speaker. It's not like, oh, there's just like nobody for anybody to. It's like it's their split and they have like such a small majority of only like, I think, three or four votes. Yeah, they can only lose four votes. a small majority of only like i think three or four votes yeah they can only lose four votes and like the republican party is just it's just so like the you know there's moderate folks and

there's like mega folks and it's like what each side what even within the republican party different people want is like so different yeah so it's like hard to get you know 217 or whatever the number was people to like agree on anything um especially when you only have like three or four votes on either side that you can kind of lose, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Which is why McCarthy had to literally give up everything to get there and be like, fine, man, if you don't fucking like me, you can fucking vote me out,

dude. Fucking do anything, man. That's how he got it. You know, Jim Jordan isn't really willing to do that. So we're just starting like, if, if there's going to be like a hard line like that i don't i don't start it back at one yeah exactly you know who i think should be speaker of the house us hell yeah yeah just kidding i don't want to do that job that sounds terrible i would break the fucking gavel though like if that if uh that guy tried man mchenry

like he smashed the shit out of it i'll be like let me show you how to really rock this fucking thing explode it be like fuck yeah i'll jerk get a trick gavel so it like just explodes into a cloud of smoke i mean that'd be and i have like on face too. So it's like it has a big acne sign on the side of it. Yeah, that's right. They're like, uh-oh, that's the trick gavel. It's like, the gavel's filled with TNT. Just a small one. Over in the executive branch,

Joe Biden has finally taken action and is demanding that people get off his lawn. On Monday, there was a major protest in D.C. urging Biden to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, led by If Not Now and Jewish Voice for Peace, and it included character actor Wallace Shawn,

among others. And yeah, after congregating in front of the White House, blocking several entryway, they were arrested by the Secret Service. And yeah, well, yeah, it's we're seeing this all over the world where you're seeing protesters who are like trying to call for an end to violence, you know, just getting absolutely brutalized or rounded up and thrown into police vehicles. Police vehicles. Yeah, it's it's it's kind of it's interesting to see where this goes now, because now Biden is going to be in Israel today, Wednesday. And a lot of people are waiting to see, like, what he's going to say, because he's been pretty clear. He's like, yeah, whatever they want, you know, what if that includes genocide? I guess I'll kind of write a tweet that says, like, let's think of the innocence.

And then I won't really say much more forceful after that a lot of people are looking to see if he was if he's going to grant these people in gaza humanity in his public remarks and see what actually happens in you know the course of his discussions with netanyahu and that yeah yeah i think this whole situation is just a level of fucked that it's hard for me to comprehend just how fucked it is it's like do y'all remember magic eye pictures where it's like a blurry image where you focus on it and for me when you focus on it it just gets blurrier and you know i'm aware that some magic guys work for some people but they don't work for me yeah they did not for me so this is my this this whole thing is my magic eye yeah it's i mean it's it's really

disorienting right because on one side you're like oh yeah you can't fucking just cut off people's food water electricity bomb indiscriminately and not call that a genocide and then but then you have a lot of the things that are reflected back to you in the media are like, no, this is the only way to do it. It's the only way it's the only way you can end Hamas have so many people protesting and wanting to get the United States government to like use its leverage as this world superpower to like end the violence. And all we're seeing now is like, you know, more warmongering and like talking about like, you know, people making eyes at Iran now and be like, what are they? What if they what if we got to do something about that? Like we're we're doing this all over again. Like we're taking we're doing 9-11 again all over very quickly. And I'm really it's yeah, it's just it's just alarming to see like how no one is really realizing how we're just going to bumble our way into global catastrophe.

If if this doesn't if this doesn't end, if the violence doesn't stop. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. There's, yeah, the fact that these are Jewish-led groups that are being hauled away by the Secret Service should make it pretty clear that the U.S. government's unwavering support for Israel is not that has nothing to do with supporting Jewish people. And, you know, in New York, they're literally arresting rabbis and descendants of Holocaust survivors because they are protesting Israeli. And they were warned and they didn't move. So that's why it had to happen. These people are, you know, it's it's just saddening, too, because you see a lot of these Jewish protesters and they're like, please don't weaponize what has happened to our people or recently in Israel to then go on another military campaign that is just going to put more lives at risk for for everyone involved and you see how like even the talk like you know people are like what about the united states role in all this and it's like yeah what the fuck right so what is joe biden gonna do because you think and i said this on the trending weekend trending episode it doesn't make anyone safer it doesn't make americans safer it's just going to create more hatred uh and yeah and it's and it's going to create more hatred. Yeah. And it's and it's going to manifest in all kinds of ways.

It's not like again, it's not the shit doesn't end neatly if Gaza is flattened. Right. Like that's to the contrary. That is going to that is going to create more feelings of anger towards the United States and other people who are backing, know this like like you know in this siege of gaza and i think that's where i get very concerned too with you know how quickly like you know we're seeing the government like ignore the pleas of people because that at the end of the day like people have protested against the war and it hasn't really you know doesn't quite sway the state um but yeah we're just moving more military infrastructure to the region like saying like don't fucking anybody else try shit because we're here and all it's going to

take are a couple things to go left and then you know who knows where you know where this leads to militaristically yeah it's like a very dangerous moment well yeah for sure and it's like i guess that what really gets me is i feel like there's so many innocent people like really on both sides that are just like so fucked by this situation. And it's just, yeah, completely. Yeah, people, the Israeli people, like we said before, they're going to like like any nation that has to deal with this kind of stuff will bear the brunt of their country's foreign policy. And right now, the policy of gaza does not make the people of israel safer no and it and again for the people of america like i said our names are all over the munitions that are being used on gaza right and that has to be taken into consideration there's

no like that's that's you know if you're just thinking very narrowly about what does it mean for america this is this is real bad pr for for America to put it in a simple way for people to understand. Usually a country with great PR. Yeah, exactly. But which is wild too, because we're seeing now too, like the rest of the world trying to be like, yeah, man, the fucking US has been fucking around forever. Yeah. And that, like those sentiments will have a way of evolving and uh turning into all kinds of other things so yeah it's just a you know and we're doing that while the media is really

doing a disservice to people by not reporting things as they are and just kind of like getting caught up in the warmongering that's coming out of like the heads of state yeah on the media side it does it's it's like a step back from where things were at first a little bit but not not by much like the i i feel like it can best be summed up by that bbc you know apology clip where they the bbc referred to all protesters in the uk advocating for palestinian lives as hamas supporters yeah and they caught a bunch of highly justified shit for that and so the bbc issued an on-air apology that lasted a whopping 20 seconds and here we'll play it yeah let's just play it now before we go earlier on bbc news we reported on some of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations at the weekend.

We spoke about several demonstrations across Britain during which people voiced their backing for Hamas. We accept that this was poorly phrased and was a misleading description of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations. Now, here's the weather. jesus christ that's not an edit that's a george bush now watch this drive now watch this draft yeah well i think that's something that's really frustrating about you know this aside from you know literally everything that's happening is that you can feel the propaganda spin from like every aspect of what's happening. Like I went to school for journalism and, you know, in journalism school, you learn a lot about, you know, how to source facts and how to look for unbiased reporting. And this past week has

really felt like, you know, even normally kind of trusted news sources, social media, you know, pretty much everything has such a crazy level of spin to it and it's all like so blatant and just out in the open yeah that i just don't even have any idea what an unbiased news source is on this stuff yeah i mean yeah i think the like you know if you're if you just want to dig through like data then trust like the ngos that are you know doing humanitarian work there don't have any incentive to lie about like what is happening uh in gaza because i think at this point the death total the death count is like closer to 3 000 and yeah it's like i mean i've completely i can't like social media has rendered itself like very hard to use anymore like anytime i'm looking at tweets now like i'm like i'm looking just to see like where else things are reported and things like that um but yeah like to your point it is it does feel

very disorienting because i think from from any from most perspectives you look at what is happening to innocent people being killed in mass and like the media is like doing stuff like on cnn there was like that moment where there was like this military uh like sort of talking head pundit going on and be like and yeah like this is kind of what a ground attack might look like and then one of the anchors like but like you're but you're cutting off like water and food and electricity like but like people aren't people gonna like starve to death like what's gonna happen the guy's like i mean yeah i mean it sounds a little callous but like this is war right and like so you're even seeing like how quickly like someone had a moment of clarity to be like this is bad and like no no

it's war it's war did you hear they're bad yeah and it's war so we have to put that out of our all the children are bad the thousands of children are bad yeah yeah i mean like i've got friends who are israeli i've got friends who are palest I've got friends who are Palestinian. And like, ultimately, for me, it's like, I just care about my friends and hope that their families are okay. Yeah, that's why most people are calling for a ceasefire. Yeah, totally. Even like the parents of people who have had their children kidnapped, who are like, you know, saying like, please, I don't want more bloodshed. It's wild, because those voices are being like, you know, just doled out. shed it's wild because those voices are being like you know just doled out but it's frustrating that like like i want to be more educated about this stuff and i think that it's just so difficult to find like you know other than you said just like facts and figures from ngos it's like so

difficult to find you know something that does not have some like specific point of view that it's trying to push you know like that is covering this stuff in any sort of real way So it's like even trying to like be educated on what's happening. So I can have like, you know, conversations with my friends about it is just like, insanely difficult. Sure. I think because you know, people, this is like, so like, traumatizing for people, you know, that when you have a vested interest in like a specific community, I've seen people like I've seen like my own friends evolve from like at like just righteous anger into like a little bit sort of like, wait, but like what the want to advocate for and who I'm advocating for. But I think at the end of the day, like it's at least for me personally, is just looking at the, you know, like the like the news is doing a really good job to have like just kind of showing you like destroyed buildings and rubble. Whereas before when you saw what was happening to the people in Israel, they were like it was much

more visceral. And I think that really excuses people to not understand the level of violence that people are actually experiencing in Gaza because you can look at that and go, that just looks like a pile of concrete that used to be a house that people were inside of. I feel like there's a history of United States news watching where building rubble

is a thing that you're just like, oh, that's something that happens in other country like and we we can turn brain off right yeah zooming in a bit further to understand like the humanity of like what is happening as people try and dig people out of rubble and things like that that's when it becomes like the scale of it is is it's completely overwhelming but i i feel like it's it's um you know it's opening up a lot of wounds in you know it just like native communities that i'm a part of because like you know like my people and a lot of my friends peoples were like also victims of attempted genocides and stuff like that and it's like it's you know it's it's definitely like

there's that level to it too about like, about talking to my different friend groups about this. And the U.S. government can be a fuck about this stuff. It's like when the Standing Rock Dakota Access Pipeline protests were happening in 2015, 2016. Initially, when the news media was reporting about it, they referred to the Standing Rock Sioux protesters as horse thieves who deserve to get sprayed by water in zero degree conditions you know like jesus christ so it's like you can kind of you can like see that i don't know it's like it's just seeing that type of thing applied to you know something like this where literally just like masses of human life is being lost it's just like disgusting you know yeah yeah yeah and again it just reinforces the the thing that we see all the time is that like the violence committed by the state is the only legitimate form of violence and should not be questioned. And I think that's like a real murky because most, you know, like like your community, my community has experienced that where state violence is the legitimate form of violence and any others. a legitimate form of violence and any others it's like off like it's just uh yeah again so like i can see why it's it's overwhelming for many people and my heart just continues to like yeah same same fucking bleed for people who are pleading for peace because they know this is only going to

end with just more fucking death and destruction and that's yeah it's just difficult and like yeah i think again like i've we've said i mean i've said this a million times but we have to really think about what our place is in this too not to say that like individually we are responsible but it's it like that's where i you know just to see the the horrifying shit play out and what the u.s is a party to like is this serves as a reminder why we need like leaders who are looking at a different way of looking at the planet rather than this like macho man fuck you i'll blow you up style of shit because it's we're seeing like it's it's falling apart rapidly yeah speaking of controversial issues let's get back to candy corn just kidding

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back and so i guess october 16th two days ago was the 100th anniversary of the founding of the walt disney company yeah we did it. Time passed. Speaking of racist caricatures. So, you know, it is good to see that there are people pushing back on this monoculture of Disney. Oh, wait, sorry. It's people who are like, it should be more racist.

Oh, right, right. Daily Wire co-CEO Jeremy Boring. Yes, the man behind this terrible entertainment platform literally named Boring, kicked off a video announcing his new company called Bentkey with a rant about how Disney is trying to indoctrinate our kids, adding that while Disney still uses Walt's name, he's like on a nickname basis with Walt Disney, they have all but abandoned his legacy, presumably meaning his legacy of racism and anti-Semitism. But they come back home, Walt. Yeah. So they go on to announce a new app which will feature licensed program and also original children's shows, including Chip Chilla. That's a mouthful. Yeah. so it's just chip chilla it's about a it's just a bluey ripoff with chinchillas instead of dogs fucking terrible bluey ripoff

just yeah a terrible bluey ripoff featuring the voice of rob schneider yes you gotta have the canceled the voice of the canceled to power this kind of creative endeavor and i guess while when you look at this the pictures of chip chilla are so it's just like so blatant that it's a ripoff of blue don't they understand how kids minds work as a kid i rejected anything that i suspected of being not the genuine article. You know what I mean? If it's, you were too good for go bots. Yeah,

absolutely. Like, you know, if you're, you're, you're my mom be like, Oh, we got that at home.

And I'm like, we don't have that at home. It's in the store. The thing you have at home is like this other version, or it's like, there's this other toy. That's like the thing I like. It's like,

it's not the thing. So I can't imagine there'd be kids who are like seeing this and they're like, I want bluey like right even unless you're able to start them off on this early you know don't you think the kids will inherently respond well to chip chilla's inherently uh more heteronormative household roles where rob schneider's father character is a distinctly alpha father named Chum Chum. Chip Chilla is also homeschooled because his family doesn't trust the school system.

I'm sure. Almost definitely. When are those ones going to come out, too? Like where it's like the teacher at school said I needed to get a shot to keep the other kids safe. Right. Inevitably. Right. That's actually I'm kind of.

OK, so like i write a lot of i write for kids tv a lot yeah and i'm seeing this new story i'm obsessed with it like part of me thinks like oh yeah this is insane but part of me is also thinking like what sort of crazy bullshit could i pitch to them to get them to buy like if i just like teenage mutant ninja firearms where instead of turning into turtles, they turn into guns. Yeah. Right. Like sold, sold, sold, sold, sold.

Or just like Garfield. But instead of hating Mondays, he hates being woke. He's always napping. Or like instead of Thomas the Tank Engine, it's just like Thomas the Tank Cannon or something. Right. Pro military. Would they be like, oh, yeah, sign me up. Thomas.

Yeah. Thomas, the crowd disbursement vehicle. Oh no, the people are complaining. Go, Thomas. He's the train that broke up that union protest with machine guns on the back. Yeah. Or he's the thing that crashed in East Palestine, that horrible train derailment. They're mischaracterizing me. stein that horrible trained derailment it's like um they're they're they're they're

mischaracterizing me wait uh can i put you on my dream daily wire project yes please okay so um it's about a vampire who instead of drinking your blood with fangs he injects vaccines into you with things his name is his get this his name is vacula oh yeah

vacula i think that it stars uh scott baio uh canceled actor scott His name is, get this, his name is Vacula. Oh, yeah. Vaccine Dracula. I think that it stars Scott Baio, canceled actor Scott Baio, as like a cop who got canceled just for doing what's right or something like that. Yeah, exactly. I think that it's revealed halfway through that Vacula is Hunter Biden and also Joe Biden's the villain, too. Yes, of course and there's definitely going to be a line of dialogue in this movie where the scott baio cancelled cop is holding a shotgun and a scientist is telling him like you just got to trust the science on this uh why don't you just like look at our research and appreciate it and then scott baio will say i do my own research and then cock a shotgun yes oh hell yeah yeah now is there room for uh Cain and Kevin Sorbo in this?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, there's got to be a lot of, there's going to be a lot of heroes in this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. James Woods. Daily Wire, if you're listening to this, hit me up. I think we could have, you know, Rob Schneider could play Vacula. Or, like, who's that former SNL guy who's, like, who was Goat Boy on SNL? Yeah, Jim Brewer could be Vacula.

It'd be great. He would be good, yeah. He's a mess, dude. Have you seen his stand-up recently? Oh, it's insane. It's fucking... It's morbidly bad. Yeah.

Like, it's, like, not even... It's bad to a point where you're, like, if that movie, The Wrestler, were about a stand-up, like, it's, like, we're seeing that version. Like, Mickey Rourke is just, like, a down-and-out. Like, it's just... It's so distressing.

But what's OK, so what's wild about it is the stand up. The jokes are bad, but he's performing largely in front of churches and like very right wing friendly audiences. And if you if you listen to the audience, it's like they're watching like Eddie Murphy's Raw. Like it's just they're like eating it up. Right. It's because like, he does like this thing where he'll be like,

and then you got like these Democrats, the Democrats! Yeah, yeah. We were like, we were like, he just does, he's like just over the top,

like just like guttural sounds and stuff. We were like, exactly! Yeah, he's like, yeah, I think there's something where it's just like, the Democrats sound like parakeets.

They're always like, trust the science book or whatever. That's his that's his closer. Right. Thank you so much. I'm Jim Brewer. All right. You could hear me on an upcoming episode of Chip Chilla playing a racist cop.

Yeah. Who actually saves the day, it turns out. out yeah he's got some interesting things to say yeah racist cop who has some some real truth he's saying or whatever but they're also doing like live action right like on this yeah oh oh yeah platform they've got one uh kid explorer a show called kid explorer that appears to be like a recruitment tool for the U.S. military. They all they all appear to be a recruitment tool for the U.S. military. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Even Chip Chilla is about being like, hey, and if you're too weak bodied, we can still use you in like a drone operating trailer. Who knows? You know, there's also apparently other Daily Wire movies they released.

They came up with a movie called Terror on the Prairie in 2022. And part of me is like, part of me wants to watch the trailer, and then another part of me is like, oh, I know that's going to be racist. That's going to be so racist. Terror on the Prairie sounds like it could be something that's poignant. Right. But it's just going to go the other way.

It did go the other way, also, in terms of box office. It made a total of $804 at the box office. I'm just saying. I almost fucking hurt my throat laughing at that. I'm sorry. I'm just saying if they would green light Vacula, that would make twice that. Oh, yeah. Vacula would kill. We've talked before about something in my childhood made me think that Dracula had hollow fangs that sucked the blood through the fangs. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, like a reverse cobra or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people, I don't think that was an assumption made by everyone. No, we kind of mentioned it on the show. Dracula proves it. Yeah, or we're team hollow. We've been hollow fangs hollow fang yeah i'm team hollow i'm i'm going for that all right cool like yeah update the update the rhesus commercial so there's like two holes you know what i mean yeah so you can see oh there were i think i think rhesus is

hello team hollow fang yeah i think okay but i just saying, what if instead of having HoloFangs, you had fangs that had little syringes that came out of them? Yeah. Absolutely. Look, I'm hard selling Vacula. Those fangs go two ways. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I think we're saying the logic of the Reese's being team HoloFang wasn't because of the indents, but because what the indents represented was it sipped out all the peanut butter. Yeah.

Yeah. Sucked're drinking peanut butter yeah yeah i was talking about like how you represent it doesn't matter uh because i i don't understand okay so i guess okay so my my so my bump there is that i'm also very much team hollow fang but like blood is a liquid i feel like if you drank peanut butter like you drank blood you'd like choke right total mess yeah oh yeah it would just clog up your fangs yeah clog up your fangs yeah the dentist would be like oh man you're doing the peanut butter thing again i told you it's hard to get out also i feel like that would be like a real pain to clean inside your fangs oh yeah oh yeah nobody

said nobody said this dracula stuff was gonna be easy, man. It's a mess. Yeah, you're right. You've been turned by him. You're like, what the fuck, man? Like, the maintenance and shit on the fangs? You never told me. It's like, hey, man. Nobody said it was easy.

Yeah, I got that. As you're sadly cleaning your fangs with pipe cleaners. Tiny little pipe cleaners going in the points of your fangs with pipe cleaners tiny little pipe cleaners going in the points of your fangs this this like new explorer though these images from the new explorer show are fucking like you can already tell right like there's a kid in like a fucking bomber jacket in front of like a aviators like yeah man this is how we this is how we make it rain and then another one that seems like a revolutionary war soldier but with a thompson gun i don't know i don't know i don't know what they're gonna say here i don't

know what kind of cool stuff they're gonna be saying his facial expression suggests he's in the middle of murdering someone the of the revolutionary war kid is this it or yeah it has the feeling of like a 90s toy commercial yes where it's like the red coats yeah you don't think that kind of shit yeah they're also uh on that note they're making a rival snow white movie where get this snow white's played by a white woman oh hell yeah that's the big change yeah yeah it is they've been really upset about the snow like it seems like the snow white thing is the whole impetus behind this. Right. Just,

they've been so mad that the star of Disney's actual snow white, which they might have to change the title to Disney's actual snow white. Rachel Ziegler had the gall to call the original movie, uh, dated. It came out in 1937. Uh, I actually rewatched it for the Bechdel cast and it's not just it is like the most

profoundly sexist like if you do a close reading of the movie like what it's saying about snow white yeah it's like if you if you kiss a lady while she's asleep she has to love you yes and if she only like every time she does something she is putting herself in danger she's just like dizzily wandering into life-threatening situations the entire movie she like runs away from the hunter and like runs into the woods and passes out and is like surrounded by a bunch of wild animals and the only reason the wild animals don't like eat her is because she's like really pretty when she's asleep and then she also almost gets murdered she like

break breaks into the seven dwarves home and like falls asleep in their bed they almost murder her with a pickaxe she rolls over in her sleep and they're like oh she's so pretty and then like when she eats a poisoned apple like that is clearly put like the person giving it to her is like overtly a wish like it was

given it to you by a talking snake exactly and then the only thing that saves her there is again when she's asleep like she has to be asleep for good things to happen. Be beautiful and passive to succeed. Be beautiful and passed out is literally the message of the it's fucked. So what do you think the message will be with this one, huh? Probably the same.

Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know if they could even do it, but I'm sure they could. Like, it feels like they'll find a way to make it terrible. We're updating it

for modern times. Yeah. Like, are you? Yeah. Yeah. The Daily Wire will find a way. Yeah. They it for modern times. Yeah. Are you? Yeah. Yeah. The Daily Wire will find a way. Yes. They'll find a way.

Yeah. As they always do. Yeah. The teaser trailer suggests the movie has not been shot yet, but does reveal that they cast a white actress as Snow White and also have access to stock footage of a national park. Okay. Okay.

That's something. Yeah. That's something yeah but yeah their their movies up to this point have averaged uh 236 000 at the worldwide box office oh and this is these are movies produced by ben shapiro person who like went to see barbie on opening day and like did created like seven hours of content just railing about like how he destroys barbie for three hours or whatever the video is called yeah and it tanked the box office for barbie but nobody wanted to see it after yeah yeah he he really got his way so but it's really funny, like how heavily the go woke, go broke brigade was like really attacking the Barbie movie only for it to make one to make one point five billion dollars of profit.

Just the most successful movie. Yeah. Yep. Go broke. Too bad they went broke. Uh huh. Uh huh. Ours.

That's why you really want to be shooting for around 230k yeah that's the real or like 800 five weeks yeah yeah it's like okay it made 200 billion dollars but did it make 800 checkmate woke woke they have been defending the the movie's performance by being like we didn't even like put it out in wide release like they wouldn't have if they could have yeah like that yeah that was a choice that they made uh actually we don't even want people to see this movie that's like the whole point dude and that's why you don't get it that's why you're like a part of the mainstream like fucking echo chamber bro get out but no legit like that's something that i'm kind of thinking about with like all of this stuff is like the specifically daily wire stuff is like is this just ben shapiro trying to steal money from vc funders like because oh yeah yeah you know it's like this feels like a tax

scheme yeah totally yeah man damn took huge losses on all those movies yeah yeah like what are the budgets because that's where you're really going to see the magic in the in the accounting happen right well joey as always such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, see your stuff, all that good stuff? So, yeah, thanks so much for having me. Everybody check out my Comedy Central digital series, Gone Native, which is a series of animated PSAs about weird microaggressions that native folks run into just on a daily basis. One of my favorite episodes is called Every Time You Say Something Is Your Spirit Animal. You have to give

every Native American person you know $25. So far, nobody's Venmo'd me, but I feel like it's going to happen. You can check out all the episodes at goneNative.tv. And there's a page for each episode that also includes links to, you know, sort of deep dives and think pieces and research about kind of these different microaggressions and why people should stop doing them. And then you can check me out on social media. You can find me on Twitter, Blue Sky, and TikTok at Joey Tainment.

And then you can find me on Instagram and threads at Joey Clift with like five or six eyes. And yeah, so follow me on the socials. Check out Gone Native at gonenative.tv and listen to more of The Daily Side, guys. This is a delightful show. Oh, you're the best. Thank you so much.

Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying besides the ones that you've been creating? Have you had time to enjoy other works of media? Okay, so I would say that there's a tweet that popped up on my timeline yesterday that I really enjoyed. It's a tweet from a little unknown figure called at Elon Musk. It's a, it's a New Yorker cartoon featuring two boxers. And the cartoon says in this corner, a man who describes everything as Orwellian. And in this corner, a guy who loves saying Kafka ask,

and then Elon posted this cartoon without attribution. And then with the text, I use both words a lot. Laugh emoji. And I guess that what's so funny to me about this is that just where we're at in society is I don't follow Elon Musk. But in order to use Twitter, I have to like it just forces to find that it's like it forces his bad jokes onto my timeline. So we're just in this level of oligarchy where i just have to be invaded by the thoughts of a billionaire constantly and that uh is very both hilarious to me and also very dark about the state of where we are in society yeah i use them both it's just yeah it's just like getting a live stream of what's going on with him as it relates to memes that he saw today.

I guess it's like the comparison would be if you live in medieval Europe and whenever the king has a funny joke, he shouts it out of the window of his castle. And if you as a peasant don't chuckle at his joke, you get executed. Right. Yeah. It's like, that's kind of where we're at. I feel like back then it would have been seen as too pathetic if like the town crier came out and was like, hear ye, hear ye. The king said something kind of funny that made some people laugh, or at least he thought it was. Here it is. Everybody line up and get ready to laugh.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then if you don't laugh. The material please everyone come come quickly yeah okay your highness all right thank you my loyal subjects so a family goes in for an audition uh where they want to do a new act it's a mother a father and i'm like oh no it's like this is the funny part. Why aren't you laughing? Yeah. What? Yeah. I said the aristocrats. Yeah. It's just funny that like our kind of our main source of communicating as a society now also includes just this crazy billionaire who owns it and says stupid shit that we have to listen to. Who, if he could murder us for not laughing on the grounds of us being clearly infected with the woke mind virus

yeah yeah he would he would do that if he would like unleash the war of the world robots like on populations to like just literally be like just you didn't laugh at that tweet yeah and that's how we know he's not as smart as his fanboys think he is. Because if he could do that, he would. But he doesn't. He just is not that good at making machines. He just takes other people's machines and finds ways to make profit off of them. Miles. Yes.

Where can people find you? What's the work of media you've been enjoying? I've been enjoying Instagram at milesofgray. I know I said that real clear. And you already know what I meant. You can also find us on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. And also find

me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra and also the good thief. All eight episodes out now. Tweet I like is from Will Sennett at Senn underscore spud. My grandpa just texted me. I'm so proud of Millie Bobby Brown. But here's the kicker. My grandpa died before me. I'm so proud of Millie Bobby Brown. But here's the kicker.

My grandpa died before I was born. That's such a stupid fucking thing. You love it. You love it. You love it, don't you, folks? A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Eden Dranger tweeted, before buying something online, ask yourself, do i want to get an email from this company for the rest of my life and then katie delaney tweeted the movie final destination was

really like we got your ass now you're afraid of a cool breeze a leaky faucet and the concept of electricity oh yeah i saw that tweet that's a good oh my god yeah fucking pools every time i think about like going in a pool i'm fucking scared wait why what happened to that one did you never saw the one where like the person got sucked to the bottom of the pool by the pool oh yeah yeah yeah i just put that i remember having to watch that shit again you know i don't like the horror shit but i remember every time i think about putting my, sealing my asshole over the pump of a pool. Yep. Because I'm pretty sure somebody's asshole gets, like, disemboweled by the suction of a pool pump.

Happens all the time. Yeah. Anyway, that is, of course, I should let you know that's implied. And when I go in a pool, I immediately race to the bottom and stick my asshole on the pool. Cannonball. That's why he's always cannonballing. Yeah. It's like,

uh, it's like a cat rubbing its head on something. There he goes. Yeah. All right. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist.

We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles. What's a song? I almost said, what's a song?

What is a song? What's a song? Interesting. Sorry, this is going to be a long episode, guys. What's a song? And then, secondly... Yeah, and what's a song I'd like Sorry, this is going to be a long episode, guys. What's a song? And then secondly. Yeah. And what's a song? So we're going to go out on this track called Home by a group called Koko Roko. K-O-K-O-R-O-K-O.

They're a group of artists out of London. And they play sort of like this fusion of like jazz with Afro beat music. And this one's like a nice like guitar playing with some really nice vocals very soothing very soothing easy to listen to you know even no matter what genre you're used to listening you're used to listening to you're gonna like this it's called home by coco rocco there we go all right well we will link off to that in the footnotes as well as gone native uh which you can't recommend enough. Gone Native. The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.

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