The Daily Zeitgeist - Midterms = J6 Sequel? Our Dumbest Moral Panic Yet 10.26.22

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 260, episode 3 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Wednesday, October 26th, 2022, five days out from peak spooky season. Peak spookers. Yeah, peak spookers as we call it it's national mincemeat day national financial crime fighter day which is funny because i think a bunch of district court just defunded the consumer finance protection bureau that thing uh national mule day national

pumpkin day national tennessee day that interesting. I do feel like national crime, like fraud or, you know, something targeting white collar crime would be good. If America celebrated that more. Yeah. Does not feel like that is the sort of thing that anybody gives a shit about. We like to celebrate the billionaires who dress up as crime fighters and beat up other people like yeah yeah that that that person yep and and beat up like drug addicts who are like i think that was like explicitly jack they're scum all right batman knows what he's doing crime is crime as long as long as it's a poorer person doing a crime to a richer person, then America wants to see it stopped by an even richer person.

Exactly. That's all I think of with Batman now, which is my favorite thing. That's what the original creators intended, I think. And shout out to Mincemeat, which, you know, not super popular. I haven't seen it on a... It does feel like the sort of thing that's going to get a reclamation project at some point, but I haven't seen mincemeat that often in restaurants. Bringing, yeah, like the new fucking cronut wave is like the mincemeat wave.

Right. We're bringing mincemeat back. It's just minced meat? Just chopped up meat? Yeah, I mean, I think it's just like a mincemeat pie. I feel like that's more of like in England, you know? Right. We don't really talk like that.

I feel like we just call it ground beef. Yeah, yeah. But I'm sure there's probably like proper recipes for it. But look. What am I, ground beef? I know nothing of it. Minced meat was just a euphemism I? I know nothing of it. Yeah. Mince meat was just a euphemism for I'm a kill you.

Yeah. Make me. I know. Right. Well, I just like to say mince meat and pound my fist into my hand quietly by myself. So nobody sees me. Yeah.

Pound his face in a mince meat. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know it was food. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, a.k.a. 1-2-3, Miles Gray and Jackie O-B-E-E. Two-bit pod going to the tip-top, around 200th on Apple right now. 1-2-3, it's kind of scandalous to trick or

treat they got fentanyl in candy too much good drugs and kit kats file okay shout out locker for that definition did we really chart it 200 on apple that's huge huge for us i thought they stopped putting i thought 200 is like they don don't, they're like, yo, it doesn't go past this. So if we're hitting there. Wow. We're doing something wrong. I mean, right.

Huge for us. Huge. We are a 200th rate podcast, not even second rate. That was beautiful though. Who was the AK? La Caronia on the Discord. There you go. Was it 200 overall or was it 200 in your specific category?

200 in our congested, probably news. That's a big category. So that's huge. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes we, we are like at, you know, 46 on Apple podcasts, but it's under TV reviews slash after shows, which is a very small field. I don't know.

That feels pretty good. I mean, you're in there. There's quite a few of those. Yeah. I thought you were going to say it was number 46 in TV reviews slash after shows slash of the wire. Yeah.

The wire slash the wire this year slash shows. Matt Lee does. Now you're up against method, man. Yeah. Yeah. Just me and Method Man, really. Well, Miles, that third voice we're hearing is somebody we're thrilled to be joined by in our third seat. A very funny comedian, the host of the podcast, Frogcast, Pod Yourself a Gun, and now Pod Yourself the Wire. It's Matt Lieb!

Hey, I'm here! What up? There he is. Yeah, I got a soundboard on my shit. Promise not to use it that much. Okay? Daddy Matt Sacks. I don't know if you guys heard it, but it was great. It was a high-pitched laser sound.

Yeah, I also got a few, like the wire ones, where it's like... You shit all over yourself. Yeah, Pharrell. Yeah, there's a few like the wire ones where it's like you sit all over yourself yeah yeah there's a few and then there's a snoop going i don't know what you said but you're i like europe is just like uh i use europe all the time and i didn't i was not properly giving you you know, Snoop. Yeah, you got to give props to the OG. You know what I like to do? I like to go backpacking in Europe. You got the standard?

You got some shit. Oh, yeah. What the fuck did I do? No, that's not it. Happy now, bitch. God damn it. There it is. There it is.

All right, Clay Davis. I really got to label these because I always do them wrong. Smashing them. Yeah, I just do them all at the same time. Yabba dabba dabba doo. I don't know why I have that one. That's Bunk just saying yabba dabba doo. Yabba dabba dabba doo.

He added a dabba, I think, in there. Yeah, he added an extra dabba. Which is fun. Yeah, that's fun. Bunk does things like that. Anyways, I'm here. And AKA, I'm daddy. I'm daddy.

Congrats. That's for you and Franfio. Me and Francesca. New baby dropped. Yeah, baby dropped. And the thing about the baby is that it... You shit all over yourself. It shits all over itself.

And yeah, little Karina was born October 7th. And she just sleeps all day and she cries all night. So I'm fucking... You guys are very alike. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is me. I cry all night.

I sleep all day. Sleeping all day. Staying up all night. Yeah, that's the life of a of a lieb so yeah she's she's truly one of one of us what's your how was uh how was that how was your the moment of birth and like it was magical everything rushed to you and you're like oh i'm here now i'm daddy yeah it was it was pretty great. I mean, Francesca is a goddamn superhero. Like she she was going into like early labor at the house and she didn't want to like go to the hospital quite yet. You know, we were doing a bunch of these like, you know, things to mitigate the pain. Did you have one of those big yoga balls?

Yeah, big yoga ball. The pain stretches. Did you have one of those big yoga balls? Yeah, big yoga ball. Yeah. You know, just like kind of like putting my hands on her sits bones and giving her like different prenatal massage thingies. And by the time we got to the hospital, she was eight centimeters dilated. Whoa. All right.

It's 10 is how much you already. 10 is go time. That's go time. And then she was laboring without medication for like 12 hours. And then eventually she was just like, this is very painful. She had back labor. So that's like the baby's spine is on her spine. And that kind of hurts like a muffler.

And so then she got epidural at the very end. And then she pushed out a beautiful baby girl. And the first thing baby girl did was take a poo-poo. And I was like, that's cute. All right. That's the best. Turn off strong. Yeah, got to.

Yeah, it's very cute. You got to save that poo-poo, right? You save the poo-poo? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you eat the poo-poo. Bronze that shit? Yeah. Wait, hold on.

What? The placenta eating is a real thing. Oh, I know about the, yeah, yeah, yeah. Putting capsules and stuff. Oh, shit. the placenta eating is it is a real thing oh i know about the yeah yeah yeah oh shit yeah oh i ate the wrong thing with some eggs oh i fucked up and ate the poopoo it's called all right it's called meconium it's uh meconium yeah the early stuff yeah yeah it's the good stuff it's very bad it doesn't smell yeah it's funny because i remember when i home girl who's a nurse i was like yo what's like that first shit they take? She's like, it's like tar.

It's called meconium. And they're not eating food that would make it stink. I'm like, wow, that makes sense. And the fact that I don't think about that at all shows my lack of understanding. I mean, it's crazy because it's like it's this completely dark, sticky, poo-poo substance. And it's called fucking on-obtainium, essentially. And you can only get it in babies' colons or the minds of Pandora. Yeah.

I bet you could power a spaceship with that shit, so. Yeah, why not? It's a new motor oil. Yeah. She's really cute, though. She's really beautiful. She's the sweetest little girl, but she should just learn that nighttime for sleepy, daytime for cry. Yeah, eventually.

Eventually. We'll get there. When does that happen, Jack? When does she get together? So here's one thing that I learned is that, like, the early days go away. Like, it's totally a blur to me. So I'm completely unhelped. I think it's so, I think our brains do it so that we keep having babies.

Right. Yeah. It's a biological coping mechanism. It's like, no, keep having babies. Remember how wonderful the whole thing was? That was actually really chill. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's like a lack of sleep. So you're not taking in that many memories until they get a little older and then things get a little more. But yeah, that's one thing i'm very unhelpful with the early days because i just like i have these things that come back in flashes but i don't i don't remember them that well yeah yeah worst thing is i'm not like fully allowed to complain about it because obviously francesca has yeah the bulk of the work because she's the one she's like doing the breastfeeding and we're not yet like pumping. So I'm not feeding the child.

Right. Yeah. So she's the one who has to like for sure, for sure wake up. And so I'm like, damn. But like my hardship is that I'm not able to complain about it. So that's why I got to do this podcast with my boys to be like, damn, damn, my life's'all get it y'all get it totally we do we do family all right matt we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today we're gonna look into whether

trump is gonna rehearse a 2024 coup in pennsylvania things are you know that it seems like the midterms is that is shaping up to be like they're going to use some of their favorite new tactics like intimidation and armed people at polling places and then claiming they didn't lose when they lost so we'll look at that normal stuff democracy i think is how it's democracy in action we're gonna look at a new event in america's q based moral panic in schools having to do with a mural that was pretty pretty wild not the mural the the moral panic just the levels of cognitive dissonance was that the one that was like be healthy they're like what yes yeah that is That is the one. Healthy. You fucking demon. So all of that, plenty more.

But first, Matt, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, I'll tell you, buddy. My search history, this is something that I Googled yesterday. Where to get Adderall? Let me explain. Okay. So I've been diagnosed with ADHD since I was a little kid. And I've gone on and off of medication, you know, for a lot of my youth because I didn't like taking meds. It's kind of embarrassing being like taken out of class so you can go to the nurse's office and take meds. And whenever I didn't take my meds, I always felt like I was, like my normal self but me on my meds i was like anyways adderall

is the stuff that ended up working for me and now there is a shortage of adderall right and i've been taking you know this psychiatric medication for the last i mean fucking forever decades and now there's a goddamn it's out and i i i can't get my order refill i'm officially as of today completely unmedicated and sleep deprived and i i fully blame tiktok i blame tiktok teens for going on there and for being like, hey, we all have ADHD and now there's a shortage. And it's not fair to people like me who need it. I need the medication. Not to say that people on TikTok don't need it necessarily, but I will say that some of these videos that I see are kind of just, you know, 21-year-olds pathologizing super regular things like losing your car keys. Like, that's not... Everyone loses their

car keys. That does not mean you necessarily have ADHD. Alright? You know, some of us cannot function. Alright? So, I'm just saying, but I'm tired of this. And I know there's going to be people who listen to this podcast and be like, oh, that's not fair.

You're gatekeeping. Bro, I'm unmedicated right now. I don't give a fuck. I'm the gatekeeper. All right. Answer me these questions. Three. Did a psychiatrist give you a diagnosis?

Right. How long have you been diagnosed? And have you tried all the other medications? Because some of us have tried everything. And the one that worked was adderall so please please stop and let me get my stash all right it feels like this is similar to the opioid the response to the opioid epidemic in that they are like the response is to just, sort of try and address it by cutting the supply. Cutting the supply off. Because I think America thinks there's, like, over-prescription of this drug.

Right. And so the way they're addressing it rather than, you know, digging into how it's being diagnosed. Right, yeah. Like, what, you know, any of these things. Or into the societal, the aspects of our society that have led people to have this disorder. Because this is a societal problem as much as it is a psychiatric problem. Sure. The fact that we have a culture that basically says you're worthless unless you are a get up early hustle person.

Right. Makes, I think, a lot of people realize that or think that there's something wrong with them and that they need to be this high achieving whatever right yeah but so america punishes the punishes everyone by saying oh no this is a problem of you know uh everyone's just an adderall addict so we gotta we gotta cut off the supply right and you know while some people think, would rightly be like, well, I should attack that system. Not me. I'm attacking the first zoomer I see. I'm going to steal their stash. Because you know what?

It's dog-eat-dog out there. This is the Hunger Games for Adderall. This is the non-Hunger Games because you don't get hungry when you're on it, which is a plus. All right? Yeah. I mean, because i feel like every everything we read was like a couple months ago it's like there could be an adderall shortage then it was like it's looking like an adderall shortage is coming now it's like there's an

adderall shortage right and you'd figure the manufacturer would be like oh okay i'll make more but clearly they're not doing that because they're being, you know, fucking hampered by the DEA or whatever, Federal Drug Enforcement Administration has decided that they need to limit the supply because that'll help. Because you know it's bullshit. You know it's coming from the top. Because you know who works very efficiently at keeping the drugs flowing? The cartels. And those guys, they got like guns and shit.

You wouldn't be wrong to be like, oh, they seem like they would be disorganized. Yeah, seems like it. Guess what? They know how to do industry. They know manufacturing. They understand supply and demand. Yeah, they understand supply and demand. So it's just very annoying that it's just like until you think we uh like actual like people like people who are cooking meth are going to

transition to find a way to make adderall i guarantee you it's already happening this is guaranteed it's the same thing like the there's with the fentanyl crisis that's happening yeah why is fentanyl killing all these people well i mean a big reason is because do you notice that drug dealers now like what you know they're they are manufacturing drugs to look like pharmaceuticals that's how fucking popular pharmaceuticals are right pharmaceuticals are so popular that they are manufacturing their drugs to look like pills it used to be that they're like, ah, loose powder, whatever. Drug addicts will use it.

Put it in tar. I don't give a fuck. Right. But now they're like, nah, people like pills. Why? Because they fucking pushed pills. Right. It's so normal.

Pharmaceuticals. Yeah. So the pharmaceutical industry got a bunch of people addicted and then pulled it out. Right. Now it can't be used. This medication that they're over-prescribing can't be used where it's actually needed. Right. And so the people who are getting hurt are, you know, people like drug addicts who are human beings. Sorry, they are humans and they don't deserve to die just because they're addicted to drugs.

And people who have legitimate uses for this medication but aren't able to die just because they're addicted to drugs and people who have legitimate uses for this medication but aren't able to get them because we live in this puritanical fucking pseudo-capitalistic society that just decides oh well you know what best way to fight this is to pretend as if we can't make it so yeah fuck all these fuck all fuck them all i'm tired let them dry out like what Matt just fell asleep. Sorry, I fell asleep for a second. What is, what's something you think is overrated? I think, you know, I hate to say this, and I know it's going to come, you know, this

is, I'm dropping a bombshell here, but fucking Kanye. Overrated. Kanye is overrated. I think, can we all admit now that graduation was not that good? And the College Dropout? Fine. College Dropout is the one album

I'm like, that's his good album. Right. Yeah, sure. That's the one that is like, okay, there's good album. What was that? 2008? 2003, I think. 2003? I mean, come let's 18 years ago can we stop like all kanye did was release one good album and be like i am god for like two decades and uh and now people are finally just like wait he's insane right wait a minute yeah he's overrated his music's not that good and honestly you know

the anti-semitism that we all saw that coming a mile away we all knew he was going to be anti-jew everyone knew it was like listen this guy he has been going off the deep end for a while he's been wearing a maga hat and shit we all knew it i this is, he is, he is three days away from reading Mein Kampf and being like, oh, this is new to me. Right. Have you all seen this? Yeah. There's nothing more annoying than antisemitism for obvious, for the obvious reasons, but

also because everyone who gets antisemitic thinks they're the first person to see the matrix. Right. They're like, did you know that the jews actually like run the media and stuff have you ever heard that it's like yeah it's really old it's been around for like ever yeah yeah and uh it's been debunked a thousand times and it's a stupid thing to say out loud and they're like yeah well you don't want me to say it because fucking because you know dude Because you know it's true.

Because then you get like blasted off the air. Yeah. It's like, hey, if you want to see who is in power, see who you cannot criticize. It's like, yeah, like kids with leukemia. The most powerful. The most powerful people. Yes. Yes.

Dying cancer kids. You can't criticize them. They run everything. It's just wild to see how much, though, just knowing how dangerous it was to let him out there and just having all this shit get aired.

And not taking it down, whether it was Drink Champs or Tucker Carlson or Pierce Morgan,gan being like well this this kind of you know the kind of kind of wacky shit that he's saying anti-semitic shit my viewers are kind of into and plus it'll get some it'll get some clicks and you see immediately again we just we talked about it the other day how that led to people on the fucking 405 putting up there like fucking kanye was right about the the Jews banners and shit like that and doing Sieg Heil in it. Yeah.

And you're like, that's that's why. That's why you can't have fucking people out here talking like you're saying, spreading this kind of vitriolic bullshit, not challenging it. And then waiting for like Adidas to be like and that's enough yeah right there right there that was it decided that's too far yeah it's very annoying and it's even more annoying the the kind of like this white supremacist like right wing news media is clearly using this for multiple purposes. Number one, because, you know, they want to show like, hey, you know, see, there are black MAGA people. And at the same time, they want to do kind of like blanket anti-black racism and paint all black men as anti-Semitic.

black men as anti-Semitic, because that's a huge part of it, especially with their hardcore right-wing pro-Israel base, who has no problem painting every single person of color who speaks just a little bit about Israel as, oh, well, that's just the same as Kanye. They're the same as, you know, fucking Farrakhan. There's a huge amount of anti-blackness in kind of these like blanket like accusations of anti-semitism that happen and Kanye is just he's just the perfect person for them to like point and go like let's give this guy some air time because it serves all these purposes all at once it's a grab bag of right-wing talking points yeah yeah it's gross but he is anti-semitic as fuck yeah it's absurd yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil

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And Matt Lieb, as you know, we also like to ask our guests, what's something you think is underrated? What is underrated? My power as a leftist luminary. I'm speaking specifically of, did you guys see me get dragged by Glenn Greenwald recently? No. Okay. So Glenn Greenwald, famed journalist turned insane man who posts was he was just like he was just having a day and some, you know, people were being mean to him on Twitter, which, you know, if I'm being honest, it's like, yeah, you're the cruelest on Twitter. All you do is platform cruel ass people and do cruel things yourself. So it's like, it's weird that you're like, how could people be cruel to me? It's like, yeah, this is the type of, you know, this is the shit you foster. Anyways, I saw a tweet that I thought was very funny and I just, I, I faved it. I

clicked fave. I didn't retweet. I just clicked fave. Next thing I know, like 30 minutes later, I get back on Twitter and Glenn Greenwald has posted about me, Matt Lieb worked for Al Jazeera, and I have zero doubt that this is the sort of really demented stuff that won't provoke even the smallest objection from his leftist fans. And he just went after me. And I just tweeted back at him, I do a The Wire podcast, Glenn. I don't know why he thinks I'm a leftist luminary. I mean, I appreciate it. It makes me feel. He must be a fan.

He must be a fan He must be a fan He must have wanted to go on to either The Sopranos or The Wire podcast And he just never got asked Yeah I mean it's too bad Because I'm sure he would have been a great Great guest But yeah he got real mad at me

The Pine Barrens to O'Brien? Come on man This is bullshit And yeah then I told him uh i do a the wire podcast and then he blocks me and i was like oh that was a perfect little thing and then friends just means like i don't know yes yes like i know and i'm mad about it and then friends of mine were just like quote tweeting it and you know making jokes about me mostly like kind of just making fun of me and he blocked all of them too so i got a bunch of my friends

blocked by association by uh glenn greenwald and uh so yeah i guess what i'm saying is that i am a very powerful voice yeah of the left and left movements omnipotent uh exactly i mean yeah sure most of the time i talk about eating butt sure i mostly just you know talk about the sopranos being a show about titties and meat sure i like to talk about the wire but also i'm really smart on politics and stuff right as you guys know clearly obviously i mean you're on this show i'm on this show i know about politics heard of them you are love to talk about them love all these politics things speaking of which let's get into it trump is i don't know if you have you heard of this guy i've heard of him dude yeah there's another guy it's like i know about him i'm another leftist luminary so it feels

like they're going to use the midterms basically to try like you know the 2020 election was beta test of like how to overturn election results and this is going to be you know here's what we learned here's what here's what we've figured out and i think they're specifically looking at federman v o Oz as a place to give this a roll. Yeah. And the only reason this is coming. So in Rolling Stone, from people they were talking to, they said that Trump has been talking a lot about this race specifically. They said, in recent months, Trump has convened a series of in-person meetings and conference

calls to discuss laying the groundwork to challenge the 2022 midterm election results. If the Republican, Oz, does not win by a wide enough margin to trigger a speedy concession from Fetterman, or if the vote tally is close on or after election night in November, Trump and other Republicans are already preparing to wage a legal and activist crusade

against the, quote, election integrity of Democratic strongholds such as the Philly area. So, you know, I think as it stands, you know, Trump has already made election denial like the de facto way of looking at our democracy among republicans so check that box and then you add to that the number of straight up q anon freaks that are lining up to take secretary of state positions and you can see that these people and trump have learned from their last test of the perimeter fences so to speak speak, like Raptors being like, oh, no, no, no.

What about they remember? Exactly. And we're and eventually you're going to have people being like clever girl and democracy crumbles because you didn't think you didn't nip this shit in the bud to begin with. So just like there's another article that was in the daily beast pointing at this group uh the america first secretary of state coalition and they're actively selecting and propping up election deniers in races for the secretary of state position so they have tremendous significance on how elections are run you know and they are now even being like conscious of their like rhetoric that they use they've stopped saying the words election fraud they're now even being like conscious of their like rhetoric that they use they've stopped saying

the words election fraud they're now saying election tampering because there's a higher standard to prove fraud like they're learning they're like oh shit ah then it's tampering because fraud is just too charged up and you got to prove that tampering is adjacent and evokes a similar thing one of the guys who's running this group is a q grifter that some of his followers think is fucking jfk junior electric boogaloo part two come back so they are still not very sophisticated but the more we learn about jans january 6th we realize that you know we've seen there was a lot of planning happening so 2022 could certainly be another fucking lab experiment for them to refine you know their their election theft

you know just just one more round before 2024 right yeah i mean i think part of it has to do too with like fetterman's kind of general like populist appeal, you know, to use that term loosely, like, like Fetterman is a, is a threat because he's one of the few, I think candidates, uh, like democratic candidates who has the, I don't know, uh, he has the support of people without being the type of like democratic candidate that is easy to overcome because like they're the ones that are the right wing can go after the easiest or anyone who's like an established politician you know like fetterman is not that fetterman is an outsider fetterman is you know a big strong man which is the scariest thing to donald trump scary to me

he's a big buff guy and like that kind of guy, usually, he would love to have on his side. He would love him to be a right-winger. So I think he sees Fetterman as a threat on a political level as well as seeing Dr. Oz as kind of a... His homie in TV, his homie. His homie and TV charlatanism. Exactly.

It's like someone cut from the same clock, and he's just like, I want to see who wins this. I wonder if he sees Fetterman as a soft target, too, for that reason. Will the mainstream that stopped the 2020 steal coordinate to stop a Fetterman, like stop them from,

you know, coming together to take something away from Fetterman in this case, like it feels like it would be harder to get the democratic party. I don't know. I don't know where I'm getting that from. Just feels like there may be less behind him. That sounds right. That sounds right to me.

He's not, he doesn't have the uh establishment credentials or established you know credentials that uh most like democratic dnc like operatives like you know he's someone who's like they can't control he's someone who will you know has his own thoughts and feelings about shit so So I could see that as them, like, would they rally around him? And I think, I think they would. I do think that the democratic party is at least pragmatic enough to want to

win, you know, especially if they want to take the Senate, they can't turn their back on that race for sure. Right. But I think the other, the other dimension to it, I think as other people point out is like this,

it, it, it motivates Trump for a number of reasons. The first being like it's his ego because Oz is like one of his picks and got a lot of shit for being like, no, this is the guy. So he's sort of incentivized to to make a huge disruption and any anything's affected by that then he's going to point to that to be like and this is why i should be the nominee in 2024 obviously because i can still fuck shit up and he's looking to do that it's at this point it's pretty fucking clear yeah and how like what is the general consensus of like where we're heading into 2022 in terms of like are there officials in place now who are more willing to buy into claims of election tampering?

2020 to get more people involved to work their local elections and there are there is a lot of reporting where election officials are a little concerned about the people who are going to be working the polls right and not knowing what levels of accountability are going to be there because people are newly motivated to be like this isn't a real thing i'm here to fucking do dress up mission impossible bullshit in this polling place so the energy for that kind of fuckery is there and like as you mentioned even like people who are like menacing people at ballot boxes to be like you know being like who do you fucking vote mule like just moving a bunch of stuff for joe byron yeah and like that kind of fucked up energy is is just swirling around this whole fucking race or this whole election so yeah i mean mean, it's definitely something to think about.

But I think even more than that, like there's also in these midterms, a lot of these people that are being propped up by this, you know, America first secretary of state group that are going to be, you know, in places like Arizona or Michigan, New Mexico, just people going like fully on board, like with all this Q and I and ideology and be like, I have to go now I'm going to run the elections in that fucking state. Yeah. Right. So depending on how some of these races play out, absolutely.

Like putting pleat like pieces in place for 2024. If these people aren't like, you know,'t like you know, ran out on a rail or something and managed to stay in office in the interim. And not only that, but like it's it encourages people who might have had second thoughts in 2020 you know, when it was all going down, who were like, uh, this is a bridge too far.

It shows them that like, no, this is not a bridge too far and you will be greatly rewarded for, you know, for being someone who, you know, props up these lies and helps to flip the election in favor of Donald Trump. So, like, you know, I don't think you'll you'd see the, you know, what was it? Rathensberger and Rathensberger. Yeah. Yeah.

And was that Kemp in Georgia who were just like, guys, this is madness. We lost. I don't think you're going to see that in 2024. No, definitely not, yeah. And especially if they get their people,

you know, in secretary of state positions or, you know, in positions in the state legislature, like, they're going to have no reason to do that, to be like, hey, guys, maybe there's a bridge too far. Nah. Yeah reason to, to, to do that, to be like, Hey guys, maybe there's a bridge too far now. Yeah.

Yeah. Cause there's the more people that agree, it's just the more that allows for more momentum for those stories to go. Cause if like normally like, yeah, they stole it. Normally some local person's like, nah, and then they had to go sort of work against that and find other ways to kind of keep the story going. But if they're saying, so it was fucking stolen. And then you have local people like yes and i saw this right and then the secretary says yes here's a picture from six years ago that i'm saying is from tonight on election

night of someone walking around with a mailbag full of ballots yeah like they're q anon and like just like all those forums are going to be going wild, like throughout the election, claiming, you know, that they're seeing people steal things. And, yeah, I mean, the midterms are really, you know, we had these norms in place of like, yeah, when it looks like you've lost, you reach out, you concede. And like we went to a place where the loser in the presidential race like tried to literally steal the election. And I think a lot of people at the time were saying this is going to be a like breaking point where for this movement and we'll look back on this with shaman instead i think you're right it's it's just the it's them advancing and doing more testing and it seems like that was just step one and there's yeah there's not really much to be done yeah no they're gonna keep repeating it over and over they're gonna keep contesting every election i mean we're just um i think it's gonna be quite a while before we have a a populace that it believes an election after it happens yeah i think it's going to be quite a while before we have a populace that believes an election after it happens.

Yeah, I think it's when we're elderly and we're sifting through the ashes of whatever our cities are. Remember that? Yeah. Cool. Anyways, I'm so glad I have a child now. Right. Yeah, me too. Yeah.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back! Sorry! So there's like kind of a full-blown moral panic happening now just across the country specifically focused on schools and children playing a playing an amateur psychologist or psychoanalyst it feels like this is dissonance and like transference where like parents should be and presumably are at some deep psychological level worried about

sending their kids to school at a time when like mass shootings are a thing and they're channeling that fear which they've decided like hard stop not doing anything about that because that's what makes me you know that that gives me meaning in my life the like being able to carry a gun into walmart so like they've transferred that into fear that their children will be trafficked, that their children will, that the teacher, their children's teachers will make them trans,

that they're being brainwashed by a satanic liberal media agenda at school. So like, you know, fighting over the books that are allowed in the library. This mascot is not showing dong. Why is this mascot trans? My seventh grader came home and asked if I've had a reckoning with my own privilege. What are they teaching these kids?

It sounds like Satanism. Right. This is so I think this is, you know, first of all, just very common that when you see a generation gap and when the younger generation is smarter and more progressive than their parents, like the parents are not going to respond. panics about like recorded me like back in the like gramophone days where they were like first recording music they were like this is going to ruin the children they're just going to sit there and listen to these right these damn wax records until the brains are running out of their ears so the idiot music box there's always like parents versus kids misunderstandings the parents are almost always wrong and then someone records the uh protocols of the elders of Zion onto one of those wax gramophones. They go, well, this I believe.

This I like. Right. For our generation, it was our idiot box. Those video games are going to make you violent. Yep. Yeah. Video games were violent. Video games, for sure sure were the thing and then also

like dungeons and dragons soon before that and heavy metal music and things like that in the 80s but rap this yeah rap for sure and this is not uncommon that children are the focus of an american moral panic also like the victims in salem the quote, victims in Salem where children, the victims, quote, in the moral panic over superhero comics, which I think are like kind of the two iconic ones from history were like child readers. But this this Q1, I mean, as we've discussed before, Bannon was like, this is how we advance the agenda is through PTA meetings and schools, essentially. So it's more coordinated. And, you know, because of the internet and our phones, it can be both like more widespread and like everybody can get the same dumb message at the same time. So, I mean, we've had the panic over trans children competing in sports, which I guess started with the parents of two girls in Utah who came in third and second in a event and launched an investigation into the gender identity of the girl who won first. And that she had been a girl since kindergarten, but they checked to make sure they're like, you know, have to investigate this child. But so like what should have been an embarrassing moment to look in the mirror for those parents and people who thought that was a good idea turned into a moment for like the Republicans to pass laws like like just in case laws. laws to make sure nobody gets any ideas about trans children competing in sports. We've seen

arguments over school libraries. We've seen arguments over what is taught to children. And to call them arguments, they're just like toxic bad faith diatribes in PTA meetings. But there's a new story about a mural in Michigan, I believe, that is just, it has it all. So a sophomore student won a competition to paint a mural in her school's health center because she's a great artist. And her vision for this mural was the most popular at her school. And when you look at it, you're like like this looks like a fucking professionally done right when i first i was like i just thought of my own like high school murals i'm like man our shit look like yeah real shit okay good for you yeah so the the mural included a bunch of things that you know she thought was cool that she thought her classmates would

think was cool students wearing colors found on the lgbtq pride flags doodles of cartoon characters from amphibia and the owl house hamza the palm-shaped symbol considered to bring good luck and protection in many cultures and some video game fan art and parents somehow saw it and freaked out and decided the details of the mural were problematic and that it needed they needed a public forum to make make their allegations they claimed one of the video game characters those included was a depiction of satan one of the parents said when adults pretend things that are like real life, it's a mental illness. And the fuck I think,

you know, what does that sentence mean? When adults pretend things that are like real life, like when I think what they're, what they're saying is like you, when an adult can't tell the difference between reality and something they're making up, it's a mental illness. So that, and something they're making up it's a mental illness so that that would seem to be a parent

pointing out that like these parents are crazy but she was actually one of the parents who was criticizing and that was that was actually her uh explanation of trans like being trans as like someone pretending something but like that's where the dissonance comes in it's like so there's like a part of your brain that is like sending but like that's where the dissonance comes in it's like so there's like a part of your brain that is like sending signals out that's like and and they're just getting scrambled when they come out that's the deep state part of your brain yeah there's a deep state part of your brain that's like trying here yes yeah that is so funny the deep state part of your brain is just like no no you're gonna look like an idiot yeah you contain multitudes and there's approximately one of those multitudes who has good ideas about

what's wrong with you and you just took one of their quotes and uh you misused it stop taking your own brain out of context right a bad faith reading of your own thoughts is like peak conservatism in 2022 yeah so of course this is a horrific experience for this young artist who like everybody should just be celebrating this should have been an amazing like first step on their journey to you know being a person who values their own talent and their own vision and instead you know instead of feeling rewarded and Right. One adult alleged that Gonzalez was trying to fool the adults at the meeting said, I feel like she did a really good job finding excuses to defend the things she put on. But none of us are that stupid. Oh, my God.

Presumably. Right. She's saying things like, no, this isn't satanic. I'm I have these things there because I want to represent the, know the diversity at the school oh how convenient for you to have an explanation that doesn't match up with the one that is in my facebook group okay just to your point about that one character being satan it isn't it's actually pretty established uh existing ip or intellectual property that you can look at. In fact, if anything, it probably evokes more of like a Japanese style mask, uh,

more than the Western idea or perception of what Satan is. So that's all I'm saying. You expect me to fall for that? Oh, she, she had a real, she had a lot of good things to say. It's almost like you rehearsed that.

You had already conceived of this notion before you painted it which means it was a plan from the beginning to incept us with satanist art that's what it means i mean again the dissonance of ending that statement with none of us are that stupid is just like so it feels again, like there's somebody in, in her brain being like, that is so fucking stupid. The deep state in her brain is like, that's the dumbest thing.

And she's like, no, it's not stupid. We're not stupid. She's having like an argument. Stop talking shit on me. Conscience. Exactly.

I do want to hear like, does, does this sort of thing happen a lot? Like psychologists who are familiar with like transference and, you know, know dissonance like do people just like start saying things like self-owning constantly when they're just having so much difficulty like bending their reality around to their own beliefs like do they just i mean i i wonder if part of this right is it's like anything like conspiratorial thinking like you arrive there when you realize you have no power over something. Right.

That makes you the most susceptible to that kind of thinking, whether you think of your own maybe like financial disenfranchisement or other things. I'm sure for parents, right? Fucking scary. We talked about fucking school shootings, the fucking climate change, whether or not they believe in it. The world is changing in ways they are. fucking climate change whether or not they believe in it the world is changing in ways they are and i wonder if this is like for them they're like well i don't i'm not really interested in functional ways i can affect change in those arenas the lowest hanging fruit is just for me to just go all in on freaking out about a fucking mural right that i think is satan and then i don't have to

actually reckon with some of the real bigger existential threats that exist out there for my child yeah for sure we used to call these types of parents just like busybodies like these were the types of parents who were just constantly had some crusade they constantly had something and it was always in their mind for the benefit of their kid and uh we were just like stop i understand you want to keep yourself busy and you want to feel like you've got parenting down, but like fucking chill out a little bit. But now everyone's busy body nature is being like, it's all being focused into these like Facebook groups and these QAnon groups and all these like all these parents are all they're like, hey, so so I understand you have like a natural urge to be like a over-involved helicopter parent. Well, now there's an existential crisis for you to deal with. And so, yeah. You know how you like actually hate engaging with your child and treating them like a human being with feelings and interested in maybe what their thoughts are?

Well, we have a really good plan for you to feel like you're actually doing something in there for their benefit right complete get your head completely fucking spun by this bullshit yeah and it's like we've never had this reality where a entire group of previous generations have completely failed the gen the generations that are rising like that with regards to the climate change point of it and it's so much to take in for the previous generations that i feel like they're just we're seeing this yeah just denial just like on they're fighting to not accept the reality rather than just let it in and have a, you know, working relationship with your children's generation to help help them fix a mistake that was made. That wasn't our fault. We were lied to by massive corporations.

And, you know, like you don't have to you don't have to just go full, you know, moral panic on it. Like there, there's a path forward that is actually much more rewarding for you and your family if we just accept these problems. Well, there's still, I guess, in the anger phase of the Kubler-Ross grief cycle, you know, like denial first, now it's anger and rage at all these other things. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's really hard to watch, you know, like when you realize, like I was just

watching this video of Carl Sagan in 1990 talking to a group of people about climate change. Right. And you think like a lot of those people in that room are like parents of like millennials or whatever. And they were being spoken to by Carl Sagan in 1990. And he just posited this. He said, how much do you think the U.S. spent on Cold War spending between 1945 and 1990?

And he's like, $10 trillion. And he's like, because of the possibility that the Russians would invade, off the fucking chance, right? Right. That we would spend $ trillion dollars off the possibility. What if I told you about climate change and every single scientist saying this is fucking coming? Yeah, it's not. It might come or it'll just blow over. This is something that they're looking at and saying this is a huge fucking threat. They really think we should spend on that. What do you think we spend on that?

Because that's happening but for the chance of fucking russia invading or the soviet union spending 10 trillion dollars and i think when you look at like those moments too where a lot of people and like you could see the the people in this room i get it there was like the relief that maybe the cold war was over and truly there was nothing else to worry about in their world yeah like you're like oh this is really interesting what he's saying. But just like laughing it off. And you can see like how there were probably moments where, you know, like our, especially like I've heard from my parents about how many times they've heard about it, how much they worry about it.

When I was growing up as a kid being like, oh, we got to do this. We got to be good for the environment because I've heard about this climate change thing. Yeah. And yeah, we're in a really. environment because i've heard about this climate change thing yeah and yeah we're in a really and as the news gets more grim i could totally see how some people would rather retreat into this thing of like well i can do something about the pedophile cabals now right i didn't do anything about climate change i didn't do anything about these other things but at least i can go all in on this and it's really it's just so just so fucked up when you know again most kids just

need parents that are going to hear them and treat them like people like that's right yeah it's like the one thing you hear over and over from child development people and everything they're like don't fucking talk down to your kids like the i like the way like you know our grandparents probably raised our parents like you're the child and i'm the person who just got back from a world war like i'm gonna make the decisions that doesn't help us grow into healthier people but yeah man it's like an omni crisis for parents yeah it truly is and i think but i do think like it's all connected right like we've never faced something like this global

cataclysmic like extinction event that is coming and that nobody is nobody in power is acknowledging like the the full reality of the situation or they're acknowledging it and just like not doing anything about it and I think that's like whether people like overtly like outwardly are letting it in

like it's getting in and it's going to cause damage and like I think this cause damage. And like, I think this shit is all connected. Like when we're seeing things go in such a dark direction, it's like people, people are dealing with stress, the stress of like the coming climate apocalypse in,

in their own way. Yeah. And it's, it's through like, I mean, it's actually the most logical thing if you think about it in terms of like the feeling of powerlessness that's been internalized by all of these you know right wingers is just it's it's so obvious that that is why they paint their worldview

in the way that they do their entire narrative is about the powerlessness that they have. I am powerless to stop the cabal. I am powerless to stop the people who are actually pulling the strings. You know, and their entire worldview is based on a deep state of pedophilic democrats who are secretly controlling every aspect of their lives and trying to infect their kids so the only thing they feel they have any control over is like well i can stop satan from getting in the schools and that would be like i wish that were true i wish the problem was just a like the democratic party oh totally the satanic group that was making up all the climate change stuff i would try and like control our money that would be that would be great that is a smaller

man more manageable problem than what we're actually dealing with so it is in a way wishful thinking and it's yeah yeah seductive to fall into that too because right rather than being like wait what like there's a there's a consolidation of media companies under billionaire ownership that are also involved in the industries that are polluting the earth. So they have a vested interest to obscure my understanding of it. So we maintain the status quo. It's just too much for any one person to handle, especially since it's like it's not all encompassing enough. They need one simple explanation for why things are working out the way that they are. And it needs to be George Soros is pulling the strings.

It needs to be Kanye saying, oh, the Jews have done everything. It needs to be Satanism. saying, oh, the Jews have done everything. It needs to be Satanism. Like it can't it can't be too confusing and it can't leave any of these people with the feeling that they have some sort of personal responsibility to elect the right leaders to listen to the right people, you know, but they they don't want to do that because they like the red team and they hate the blue team. God, I wish we could bring some of these people that everybody listens to, like to like infiltrate a meeting of the Church of Satan and then just see that it's like five guys in Hawaiian shirts. Right. You know, just getting drunk.

Right. Just like chill out and having a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like not. like you know just getting drunk right just like chill out and having a good time anyways just to close the loop on this because you know it's these are the sorts of things like this person shouting down a teenager who's explaining what's actually in their artwork and saying

none of us are that stupid while being like more stupid than they could possibly conceive like somehow extra stupid we're actually not that stupid. We're this stupid. Yeah. You can see right now. We're actually very specific, our level of stupidity.

But that, like I was thinking about how, like I used to watch The Daily Show a lot, like in the early 2000s. And like they would have interviews with these sorts of people that we could laugh at. Totally. But this time it worked. And it like works in the modern world. The school issued a statement bragging that they were going to leave up the mural despite pushback.

But they also like took the notes from the parents and removed the doodle of the Hamza. And that's insane. Genshin Impact. Yeah, that's insane. And that's insane. Genshin Impact. Yeah, that's insane. It's just like and this is, you know, a problem that I have in general with.

With a lot of these kind of like keep the peace people, centrists and all that is just this kind of like, OK, OK, we can compromise on this. And it's like, are we compromising with this stupidity? Are we really doing this? Are we compromising with people who are unreasonable? That is, it's just, it's so infuriating because yes, there was a time where just, uh, you know, sunlight being the great disinfectant, you would just watch someone be stupid and laugh at them on the daily show and be like well that'll that's the end of that and then it just goes to show that like no man they are not living in the same like media consumption world that we are like the things that they think are stupid are like look at joe brandon can't even talk good it's like fuck yeah it's just interesting to see how like

helplessness works on both sides of the political spectrum like for people on the right it's like it's easier to get in this fucking magical fucked up thinking and then for like people who are democrats or like who are just fully invested in like dnc d triple c way of thinking looking at it they're like well you know they're doing what they can. And also just being like, cause I'm also not going to really reckon with what's happening either. Like it's two versions of how to reckon or not reckon when really the solution is we can, all we have to do is acknowledge this and we can do the work.

Yeah. That's it. Like, we don't have to, you don't have to be like well why isn't the why are the people on the hill handling this because they can't because they fucking can't right they're unable to they're ideologically not fucking equipped to do it spiritually not equipped to do it and also their timeline on this physical plane isn't one where they understand the severity of it they're the ones who are looking like oh i just worry about my grandkids anyway should i should i fucking start trading this stock that i know about an upcoming defense bill that's anyway that's for later you know it's like it's i mean

credit where credit is due to the fascists of the republican party in that they at least kind of have organizing principles even if they're the things they're organizing around are monstrous, they are getting all of these numbskulls to a school board meeting or to a PTA meeting to say this nonsense. Whereas you have the DCCC and you, the DNC and your local democratic party completely ignore anyone who is like actual boots on the ground activists, like actively suppress and actively suppressing them, actively suppressing them because they are so convinced for your work that they

are like, Oh, well they're stupid and no one really, no one really thinks like this. And it's like you want to fucking bet yeah you know what's wild i had a conversation with somebody where i was talking about unhoused people and their first they they were in actual disbelief that my first instinct wasn't get them out of my neighborhood right yeah they're like what do you mean i'm like well

they're they're like they're dangerous i'm like like, that's not my first thought. When I look at someone who's that destitute, my first thought is that's someone who's so fucking destitute. I couldn't fucking imagine what it would take for my life to be there. Right. And I'm and like their response is like, yeah, OK. Was like this sort of like, yeah, yeah, sure. Right. What do you like? And it's so funny when you there are people who are actually think or it's easier to just kind of go around and be like no one cares about the downtrodden at all because what's weird is too like generationally i think we see ourselves as being closer to that than to where our parents are totally our people of older generations we see like the writings on the fucking wall three bad things and you could have nothing. And that's why it's going to be fucking chased out by some fucking movie producer who wants to put boulders on the fucking sidewalk.

Right. The first response is, wow, we have to help each other because that's truly the only way, like, you know, we don't leave people behind and allow all this other, you know, festering to occur

within like how we interact with each other. Yeah. All right. Well, Matt, truly a pleasure having you. Thank you for coming out of your temporary retirement, temporary paternity to,

to do this. I'm on sobriety. Sobriety. Sobriety. Yeah. Happy to be here. Thanks for, thanks for having me.

Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? If you are a fan of the wire, you can listen to my The Wire rewatch podcast, Pod Yourself The Wire. And we are just finishing up the first season. And so you can listen to it wherever you get your podcasts. And even if you don't want to listen to it, just give us five stars and a review on the Apple Store.

Just say, hey, it's a great show, except Matt keeps talking about feet. Just do that. You know, do me the favor. I don't care that you slander my good name. And that's a favor because you're looking for fellow people who are into feet. I just want all the feet kings out here passing out feet pics. No, you know, just do it. passing out fake pics no i mean you know just hey do it you can follow me on instagram at matt lieb jokes uh m-a-t-t-l-i-e-b jokes and uh yeah go ahead and check me out on twitter at matt lieb

there you go is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying there is a tweet that i enjoy i don't want to get in trouble for enjoying this tweet, but someone was writing on Twitter about how their ADD is, diagnosis is such that they need to get their food delivered, otherwise they will buy $200 worth of candy because of their ADD. And this guy wrote, diagnosed at 30 with I'm baby. It's just like, yeah, because as someone with ADD, listen, I have a lot of problems because of this fucking thing.

It is, it is, uh, actively destroys my life, especially when I'm not medicated, but buying $200 worth of candy because you have adhd is that's a i think a different psychological issue i don't think that's adhd necessarily but uh anyways i like that one amazing and you've got any adderall on the low hit mat up yeah please please dog I'm fucking dying. And that was by QBan underscore links. Very funny account. Great album. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?

Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles the Gray. Listen to Jack and I talk about basketball on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. Boosties. Tremendous start to the season. Tremendous takes we shall have. And also, me and Sophia Alexandra talking about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. Go follow that shit, too.

Some tweets that I like. First one is, let's see, Julia Claire at OhJuliaTweets. It said, I never realized how much we need OSHA until my best friend started working at a haunted hayride and if you know you know who that tweet is about another tweet i like is by rojita kandam kadambi at rojita kadambi tweeted that's a picture of taylor swift like in this graphic pantsuit and it says oh my god i love christine baranski really looks like it does look like her very very uh you know new adventures of old christine vibes there um and then lastly where is it oh we were just talking about video games jacob geller at jacob g42 tweeted unbelievable moment uh in the new call of duty campaign where stalking through a trailer park the game tells you to de-escalate a situation, and de-escalating means pointing your gun directly at civilians.

And, like, this is, like, you're walking through this, like, freaky park, and then the screen prompt, it'll be, like, aim gun to de-escalate. So, it's supposed to be some sort of... Aim your gun. Oh, shit. You're right. I won't fuck with the state.

Damn. So anyway, so yeah, but again, shows you it's like, we might not learn violence, but they're like normalizing this shit. They're like,

right. Deescalate. That's what it means to deescalate. So wild. Anyway, shout out to that tweet. Sorry. A couple of tweets.

I've been enjoying Jamie Loftus. I thought Jamie Lo loft has helped tweet it much harder to source a sexually charged kevin the minion costume than anticipated which is just true uh and then jason pargin at john does the end road with john with house of the dragon ending soon fans like me want to know what are some other shows out there right now that feature a lot of incest? That's true, dude. Need to get my fix. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles. What song do we

think we might enjoy? This is a track called In Spring by the Tara Clerken Trio. And if you like, you know, Portishead, I would say this is kind of like a, they're also from Bristol. And they just play really, like,

interesting, kind of funky beats and stuff with, like, really nice vocalists. Her voice is kind of, you know, like indie, but haunting. So it gives me, like, a little bit of neck snap plus haunted vocalist Portis head vibes. So check out this crew.

They're called the Tara Clerkin Trio. All right. Well, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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