The Daily Zeitgeist - Mike & Zeits 4/27: The Little Mermaid, Popeye's, Zombie, Juan Carlos, Jerry Springer

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

In this edition of Mike & Zeits, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the Little Mermaid character posters, the mistakes you're making while ordering at Popeye's, getting zombie'd, King Juan Carl...os' secret daughter, and the passing of national treasure Jerry Springer!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of mike and zeitz or raisin trends or junior men tdz these are johnny davis short show titles as well as Good and Trendy, which we already did, but short show titles comprised of candies that are always sold in rectangular boxes for some reason. Shout out to Johnny Davis on the Discord.
Starting point is 00:01:56 I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer Becca Ramos! Hello, hello! Hello, Becca! I really hate to say I told you so. And yet, Little Mermaid character posters
Starting point is 00:02:11 came out and we got to see Flounder. We got to see Scuttle. We got to see Sebastian. And these do not look like characters that I'm going to find adorable personally or characters that i'll be able to read emotion on the face of because they are
Starting point is 00:02:34 realistic yeah especially flounder flounder is the worst flounder looks like shit um yeah flounder looks like if the cartoon, adorable flounder, like grew up to have a like serious drug problem, I feel like just very skeletal and dead behind the eyes. I doubt that that's a storyline that they've incorporated. I don't think that he will have a serious drug problem. I think it has more to do with the fact that fish are almost always dead behind the eyes. Yeah, fish are absolutely terrifying to look at in reality.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I iconically hate underwater sea creature type things. I have a deep fear of the bottom of the ocean slash the ocean in general. I am terrified of drowning. I really like when I go to the beach to just sit in the sand and then take a little dip in the water. A little dip. That's about it. And that's a single toe?
Starting point is 00:03:34 What are we talking? A single toe. Yeah. You know, maybe I'll get out like enough to where I can stand and I'll like do a dunk and then come back. But yeah, I'm not really fucking with the ocean. I went snorkeling recently and uh just to tell you a story that uh you probably won't like i went snorkeling found myself like right above a coral reef a lot of fish there but as i swam the water got like
Starting point is 00:04:04 shallower and shallower to the point that it was like just like inches away from me and i like didn't want to touch anything and it was this really terrifying like experience where i just had to like try it was like being tom cruise in that scene in mission impossible where you just have to like stay completely flat and then i was like trying to swim with like my fingers just to like move myself out of there um i made i made it with well only scraping myself a little bit and not like knocking anything over or touching a fish but it was like a bad dream it was very a beautiful very beautiful bad dream but the fish they were not giving me much emotion. I was looking. No, absolutely not. I did this to observe up close.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I was hopeful. I was like, maybe I'm wrong about the Little Mermaid characters. And the underwater sea creatures are going to be able to wow me with the riz. And I've got to tell you. They riz'd you. They did not riz me. They were just like, let's get out of here. This guy is an idiot.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Let's see. What else? What else? There's an article in Mashed. Is this a thing? I know Mashable. I'm not really familiar with Mashed, but they let you know, they put together a list of mistakes everyone makes while ordering Popeyes.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And there is something that I was able to take away from this that I didn't fully know. I think I've had this thought process. It's in between meals. It's like 3 o'clock. I've skipped lunch or something. And look, they have fast food right there. It's the perfect time to jump in there no wait hop in and they're saying that's a bad idea you should actually fast food is meant to go fast and meant
Starting point is 00:05:53 to be busy and you should go when other people are eating at lunchtime or dinner rush because you are going to get fresher food and in between times, it is going to be food that they've had sitting around for like 30 minutes. Which I think that's staple for all fast food. Yeah, I think that applies to all fast food. Yeah, and I think it's a great little detail that I hadn't really thought about. But the other things they're saying, you shouldn't order only the chicken sandwich. Which I do only order the chicken sandwich is so good like it's so good um rice and beans they're saying like you need to get the rice and beans and you need to plus them up which what does
Starting point is 00:06:37 that mean uh you gotta upgrade it uh according to this article um papa fans on tiktok have revealed they love to add a packet of the complimentary honey and hot sauce to give it some zing, which does sound good. Worth trying. I don't know if I would say not doing that is a mistake necessarily, but there's also the Cajun
Starting point is 00:06:57 Sparkle, which you can sprinkle onto your food to add some spice that is one of Popeye's proprietary. It is garlic powder, onion powder, red and black pepper, and that's it. That's all. They're saying don't order the Cajun rice and also don't order your chicken to be spicy, which is interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Are you a fan? Well, because the spicy chicken sandwich, like that's what it is. Yeah. Isn't it? Isn't it spicy? So there is a spicy version, but the spice comes from the mayo. Like, that's what it is. Yeah. Isn't it? Isn't it spicy? So there is a spicy version, but the spice comes from the mayo. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah. Then, yeah, I guess I haven't had spicy chicken at Popeye's. I've had the spicy chicken sandwich, which slaps. And I'm going to get it every time. The one time I didn't get it
Starting point is 00:07:40 was when Megan Thee Stallion did a partnership with Popeye's and she had her sauce. And I was like, anything Megan Thee Stallion does, I'm going to be there. So I had the sauce. It was good. But at least in my local Popeyes, the nuggets sucked. They sucked.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yes. So their explanation for spicy is spicy doesn't sell as well as mild. So it's similar to the going during non-rush times. They're saying spicy doesn't sell as well as mild, so it just sits there for longer than 30 minutes. And anything outside of 30 minutes, it's just not going to be as good. So these are tips from people who work at Papa's. Thank you for your service, people who work at Papa's. Thank you for your service. All right. Are you familiar with what being zombied by a date is? Okay. I have heard this. And I think the understanding is that after you've been ghosted, they come back periodically later to be like, hey, what's up? Just give zero effort. So let's find out together, Becca.
Starting point is 00:08:43 This is from the Daily Mail, who I go to for all my relationship advice. They say, if you thought that getting ghosted was one of the worst parts of modern dating, it might be time to think again. According to singer-songwriter Mariel Darling, another person who I was checking with, being zombied is infinitely more frustrating. The New York-based musician from Massachusetts
Starting point is 00:09:04 went viral on tiktok when she opened up about her experience in the online dating world uh it seems like a lot of the news these days is just like here's something i found on tiktok or here's something i found in a reddit thread uh where ghosting simply involves cutting all contact with the person you were dating without any explanation. Getting zombied means your former flame comes back from the dead to initiate a conversation out of the blue. Yeah, I guess I understand the concept. But in my own personal dating history would never happen because I'm a very as a fire sign as an Aries. I'm like, you're fucking done.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like, if we're done, fuck. You're never going to hear from me again. Like, I, you know, so even if they did come back, I wouldn't give them the opportunity to come back three times. Like, someone, like, in this article was like, yeah, this guy zombied me three times. It's like, why did you give them two more opportunities to come back, bother you, ghost you,
Starting point is 00:10:02 and then zombie you again? I just, like, personally can't handle that type of... When a guy at the end of your situationship, whatever, is ending, and they're like, but I want to be friends. I'm like, block. I'm not fucking...
Starting point is 00:10:16 We're not friends. Definitive, decisive. We did not come into this as friends. We're not leaving it as friends. Sorry. So in theory i understand the concept and practice ladies block if they ghosted you block but i've also only been ghosted like properly ghosted like one time and you immediately blocked them so you don't know if
Starting point is 00:10:39 they zombied you yeah i guess so and i think i've been zombied only one time, but I ghosted them. So it was kind of weird. Yeah. I hate getting Dracula-ed when they just show up at your bedroom window and you're like, how are they standing there? I'm on the fourth floor of this apartment building. That's the worst.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Am I right? That's getting twilighted, actually, specifically. Oh, is that a scene from Twilight? Yeah, there's edward comes to bella's window and she's like how long have you been standing there and he's like a while you're so tall um and she's like how often do you do this he's like almost every night to different people like what wait is that when she says how often do you do this like does she mean like do you do this to all the girls or you come to my window every night every night watch her sleep every night fuck out of here she'll wake up sometimes she'll be like i feel his energy and then he'll be like he'll like hide yeah she didn't see him yeah yeah that is cool women love when you tell them that you watch them when they sleep all right let's take a quick
Starting point is 00:11:55 break we'll come back we'll talk about a wild story out of spain with their king and our king jerry springer We'll be right back. You have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about
Starting point is 00:12:49 that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day
Starting point is 00:14:33 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:15:10 is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Spain's former king, King Juan Carlos, apparently had a secret daughter whom he tried to keep from falling in love with his son when the two didn't know they were related. This is from a new book. The daughter named Alejandra was born into an aristocratic family in the late 70s, early 80s, and her existence was an open secret among the the king and other like powerful people but most
Starting point is 00:15:46 people didn't know it and so they were friends and they had to like keep them actively like keep them from dating one another which is gross oh it's like a rom-com but like in the worst way yeah i mean, yeah. I'm trying to think of what genre this is reminding me of, because it's not a rom-com. Yeah, it's not like what you would want to happen in a rom-com, but it does have the storyline of a rom-com for some reason. Although there was, I think there was an 80s,
Starting point is 00:16:20 I just remember the cover of this VHS from from the days of like blockbuster video there was a movie called cousins and it was like a steamy romance movie with like ted danson like the cover of it was like ted danson and the lead actress like on a motorcycle together and i'm pretty sure it was just like they find out they're cousins but like they still have just a bunch of sex um do you think like genetics are failing us in those moments because isn't it like that we're supposed to be as humans genetically engineered to be repulsed by inbreeding you know like like the scent of your family is not supposed to like right evoke you know yeah yeah endorphins in a sense right yeah there was so there's one thing that we feeling us there's one thing we like talked about in um that i remember like doing
Starting point is 00:17:12 some research on a cracked article that was like when you are kissing someone there is a theory that like that evolutionarily became a thing because you're essentially like taste testing their immune system to see how different it is from yours and pheromones that's the word i was looking for yeah yeah like pheromones are a lot of people like scientists are like there's no real scientific evidence that pheromones in humans actually exist but the um the kissing thing always like made sense to me because first of all it's like weird that kissing exists like just if you take a step back and you're like why why are they doing that with their mouths uh and then also there's that thing that people say independently presumably of this information where
Starting point is 00:18:03 they like kiss someone and they're like oh it's like kissing my brother or something yeah it's so i've always thought that's interesting i don't know how scientifically real it is and there are like i remember like there's a european philosopher who was like the incest taboo is actually like completely you know created for social purposes to avoid um i think that person just like probably had a thing once like a sibling yeah um because i think scientifically maybe not the attraction part of it but it is scientifically proven that like inbreeding is bad yeah inbreeding with yeah with uh close relatives not good yeah not good yeah and jerry springer rip to a real one i don't know you are
Starting point is 00:18:52 much younger than i am becca what what is your awareness of jerry springer i mean i go to the jerry springer show i think i was i was up that time where it was funny. You know, probably traumatic looking back at now some of those families were on it. But I do remember the Jerry Springer show. Yeah, I guess. So I assumed it just stopped being a thing soon after I was no longer in high school. But it was on until like 2021. Yeah, it was on forever. Yeah, it was on for three decades. Yeah. It was on forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It was on for three decades, lived a wildlife. Like I always knew there was the backstory that he was the mayor of Cincinnati at one point. Yeah. But this is one of those obits where you're like, damn, that that's a life.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So he was the son of Jewish Holocaust survivors who escaped Germany and ended up in England where Springer was born. Holocaust survivors who escaped Germany and ended up in England where Springer was born. So his parents escaped Germany, ended up in England, and he was born in a London tube station while it was being used as a bomb shelter during World War II. Wow. His political career began by working as a campaign advisor to Bobby Kennedy, and his success with reaching young voters caught the
Starting point is 00:20:05 attention of the DNC, who tapped him to run for Congress in 1970. He lost that, but was quickly elected to Cincinnati City Council and became a very popular, outspoken lefty leader at the age of 27, I think he was at that time. Proposed a ban on drafting of Cincinnati residents for the Vietnam war, then resigned from city council in 1974 when he was caught in a vice investigation because he paid a sex worker by check, which is, they're just like this, you man, this is your signature on a,
Starting point is 00:20:40 and, but then he just like ran again. So he lost that job, but then like ran again and like made fun of himself and like did a fake ad for credit cards. Was like, this is actually how you should pay for sex workers. And then, yeah, he became like a media personality who did these. I guess that thing. I don't know if he still did this by the time you were watching but like did he do a like direct to camera address
Starting point is 00:21:05 where he would like tell you a life lesson at the end of the jerry springer show so yeah that that always seemed weird to me it was like okay after we just show these people like beating up their cousin or whatever uh on stage i'm going to then then give you a very wholesome op-ed about how we should all treat each other well. Apparently, that's what his original thing was. He gave these kind of
Starting point is 00:21:35 direct-to-camera local news broadcast things. And then from that, launched a TV show that was just like very moral and responsible and dull and then he hired a producer who had worked for like the weekly world news and the producer was like look man do you want to like have a career okay so here's how we're gonna change things also hosted the strangest dating show in history baggage in which
Starting point is 00:22:08 contestants show up with literal bags of like weird things from their past. Interesting. Yeah. So he passed away. Yeah. I watched a bit of the episode and it was really bad, but you know,
Starting point is 00:22:24 probably chock full of the sort of things that we watched jerry springer for but yeah he passed away peacefully at the age of 79 89 i think it was 79 79 full life uh so shout out to jerry springer all right i think that's gonna do it for us this afternoon we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Becca, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Back tomorrow. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio
Starting point is 00:23:40 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

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