The Daily Zeitgeist - Miles Of Gray Day 9/15: Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, Trump, Emmy Awards

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

In this edition of Miles Of Gray Day, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the capture of Charlie Kirk's shooter, Trump's droopy 9/11 face, the Emmy Awards and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is the Pope a fan of the clips? This is just, this is my favorite thing about the papacy is anytime there's just this little bit of vanity that like peeks through. Like the last Pope, the quote unquote cool Pope, like really had a guard up on any of the shit squeaking through. But like, I remember growing up with like Pope John Paul II with that hat that was, made him six foot five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he listed that as his height, officially, on tail of the tape.

I'm taller than LeBron. No, I refuse to believe the Pope was a fan of the artist because fucking jelly roll performed too? Nah, no. He's this fucking dude who was like a rapper and then. And then it was like, Morton? No, you fucking...

From the past? Yeah, no, you actual music history lover. This fucking... Another one of these dudes who's sort of... starts off being like, yeah, I'm a rapper. And he's like, no, I was never a rapper. Actually, I think rap sucks. I'm into country music.

I'm a country guy now. Ignore my face. He sounds like one of those morbidly obese rappers. I keep seeing. I mean, he's, he ain't slim. I mean, it's not a clever name. Oh, okay. But I do, like, anything where the Vatican is just unabashedly being vain,

I'm kind of here for it. I think it's funny. I mean, the Sistine Chapel is pretty funny. That is the tackiest room on Earth. Yeah, right. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. That's what we're going to do in the Oval office.

If Ira Pope, I would paint over that shit. Put up my port-a-sad poster. All of them. All of that. This is a tape recorder statement. Person being interviewed is. Gail Pike, this is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me, and I hit her.

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weekend, what's happening this Monday morning in addition to the giant concert that the Pope threw for his own birthday party. You think so? We were referring to earlier. It's just, it's hard for me to. that he's re-up gang and he likes jelly roll right those just feel like antithetical hip hop tastes but hey you know i don't know you know the pope may contain may contain multitudes or he had nothing to do with the lineup at all come on he's got to contain the entire catholic community he's got that's true

yeah but big concert at the vatican over the weekend uh maybe this is this is what a world sign of things to come uh for an american over the weekend and a big concert at the vatican uh my name's Jack O'Brien that over there is Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, how's everybody doing? Everybody doing all right? How you doing? Good. Just hanging with the Pope recently. It's really cool. I mean, very close birthdays, I will say. Happy birthday to you, Mr. Miles Gray on this Monday, September 15th. Yes, yes. When's the Pope's birthday? Was the Pope's birthday also this weekend? The 14th.

September 14th. So he is Leo the 14th. So I'm getting a like vibe from him that like we're going to see start seeing the big Pope hat again because okay he called himself Leo the 14th. His birthday, September 14th. So that's already a little bit like 14 is my number is kind of my thing type thing. And then he had this big concert that just happened to be I think the day before his birthday. His what would this be 45 plus 25? is 70, his 70th birthday. So flexing on him. Yeah. I still haven't really heard him talk since he became Pope, which I mean, I've heard him speak Italian. He was speaking Italian. Yeah. He just changed that up.

Like, once he became Pope, he went from being like, hey, how are you doing? How you? Hey, how you doing? My name's, uh, bro. To like, to be in like, hey, yes, me. He just like kind of knows the role, knows what people expect. I mean, it would be jarring. But I think every time we've heard him speak, he just, I think what he does is he puts that little accent on it as if he's not American.

And he's like, and to the people of the world. Right. You're like, hold on, bro. Which you kind of have to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, this is where we're going to tell you a little bit more about what's going on in the news. First, we tell you guys a little bit about us by telling you stuff that we think is underrated, overrated. Miles, what is something you think is underrated?

underrated stairs just going up and down them as a means of exercise now this is kind of an old invention so what what why are you now just getting into twist man if I may say so myself stairs they're all around us

stairs abound and most of us cathedrals everywhere for those with eyes to see them yeah uh no it's just like I I hate jogging I hate like traditional like when people are like I go for runs and stuff like I could only kind of do that in the beginning of lockdowns

because I was like, well, I'm outside and I'll run from my own terrorized mind. Yes. But recently since I've moved, I live near like this massive public staircase. Yeah. And I like, I just take it all the time. And it's a lot. Like by the

halfway through my watch is like, hey, you okay? And I'm like, I'm fine. I'm going up these stairs. Halfway through the stairs. Is this? I'm picturing like one of those movies where they're like going up to seek wisdom. them from. Exactly. Ace Ventura 2. Yeah, exactly. Just like a huge staircase on the side of a mountain.

There's skeletons strewn about on either side. It's really fucking grim up there, man. But I do it every day. Yeah. But it's like interesting to see because I think just for me, at the beginning, I was like, this is fucked up, man. Like, how the fuck can anyone do this? But with enough reps, my butt tight. Okay. My thighs even stronger than legally allowed right now because of the amount of reps I'm getting on it. And anyway, I was just like realizing, too, It's like this very easy thing to do, but it takes a lot of effort and you have to use your legs a lot to do it. And I've just become an appreciator of it because also it's it's allowed me to do something very healthy like every day, which when you're podcasting, you kind of need these things to fight against the sedentary demons. And then I was just looking, the BBC had an article about all the fucking benefits of just the stair walking, stairwalking.

And it's not that it's necessarily a stairmaster. Only a stair, you know, like it's not necessarily limited exclusively to going upstairs because you can get any kind of like cardiovascular movement. But it's like the fact that it's because you're like going upstairs, you use your abs, use your thighs, you use everything. Damn, I'm going upstairs wrong. A Swedish person, not using my abs at all. A Swedish person, not even a doctor, a Swedish person just said it's good for the brain.

So I'm going to take that. And I'm going to take that. Actually, no, this is a medical researcher who also said, yes, it could, it can help. It has benefits for the brain and everything. Generally, just exercise does. So whatever you do. All that to say, stairs, simple, beautiful, and my butt has never been tighter. And it's true.

I can confirm. No, I actually can't confirm that. But I, Miles wouldn't say his butt was super tight if it wasn't. I wouldn't lie about that. I can't confirm that. Because when I see you next time, I'm going to be like, throw a beer bottle at it. Go ahead. And you know I always do.

Whether you ask me to or not. I'm using my butt absorbs it. See what I can bounce off that thing. It won't even bounce, bro. It will shatter on impact, like fucking concrete. All right. Underrated. My underrated is my brain's a little poison this Monday morning just by the Charlie

Kirk story. So apologies, but that is what's going on with me. So my underrated is the number of shitty people in all generations just based on. Did you see the elder TikTok guy on social media? who, like, went live from the moments after Charlie Kirk had been murdered. No. No. He's, like, in the crowd near the stage and goes live. And it is just, like, hitting his angles, like, putting his hat backwards, being like,

yo, it's me, elder TikTok. Just, uh, he's like a Utah, uh, influencer, like, Mormon influencer. Um, but he's, like, smiling and giving the peace sign talking about, like, you know, shouting out, like, telling people to follow his socials while being, like, shots fired shots fired this is real but like also like doing peace signs and shit and then he like later went on social media everyone was like horrified and like dude what are you doing yeah he went on social media to apologize but even his apology was about he was like I just I want to be a better content creator for you guys like not a reckoning with the loss of humanity that went into such a weird

decision to dude I'm telling you seeing someone like murdered in front of you but just being... Hey, I could have done... The content could have been more fire, bro. It could have been more on point. The tone that I chose could have been a little bit more poignant. That to me is like the scarier part of all this too is everyone's response to it is like, not even like they saw a guy murdered.

The guy's like, damn, I could have, that live could have been better. Or like even the idea that it's like, now's the time to go live to get some clout. It's just so... Woo! But I do just want to, like, I think a lot of people are like, and that's this generation, you know. Oh, sure, sure. This generation didn't have the best week.

I'll say, I'm pretty confident, though, that the main thing that's changed is not the shittiness of the quality of people, but rather that the shittiest people all have, like, cameras pointed at their faces and go viral for it all the time. Yeah. Like, I've met so many people in older generations who get, excited when bad stuff happens because it's like something they just like you can like see like there's like a welling of like excitement and they just have sociopathy and so they don't really like feel the

pain of others so it's just like kind of a charge for them right right right so i don't think that started here i just think that now we're inside a machine that brings it directly to us in a way that's disturbing but I think the machine is broken and you know and the machines breaking our machine in our brain yeah and it's it is definitely breaking us and it's bad but uh yeah it's uh I don't think there's something new about this generation I just think that there is something about humans and this particular media machine that uh is going to continue to perpetuate a version of humanity that is uh bad looks like shit miles

I don't know could be cool we might have robot arms or something that's what we're all waiting for Miles was something you think is overrated this is gonna sound like

such a stupid like a dickhead thing to say on my birthday but birthdays and not on like some sad boy shit you know what I mean but just like ever since Seinfeld episode where he's like another day

closer to death no not even it's just more like the And I feel like I probably say this all the time, maybe last year, or the year before, or every year, who knows. But like since I was like 23 or so, it stopped feeling like a thing. And I look at my phone and I go, September 15th, yeah, that's my birthday. And then there's not much else happening in my brain aside from that.

Like I'm like, I don't have this like little kid feeling anymore. Like, it's going to be my day. It's my day. It's special. I think this is probably mostly to do with just life as you get. older and just my personality. Because generally, I'm not a birthday type of guy. Like, every year I have the hardest time coming up with, like, what I should do

to celebrate or, like, what I even, like, want. I'm just, like, don't really think in those terms. And I think maybe it's more like the cultural expectation around a birthday. Like, I just, I think, A, I don't like the attention, believe it or not. Like, I don't like everything being like, and what's going on with you today? tell us tell us tell us i don't really like that and also i think it's also i just as i get older and like i really get a hold of like my mental health and things like that i really have to have like these gratitude practices to really ground myself into knowing like all the many things that

i have to feel like positive about my life and i'm incredibly fortunate to have like my health and family and being employed that i just i truly like i don't feel like i don't feel like lack in any way that like it just feels like a weird exercise to be like but what am I missing that I need um all that to say yeah I'm doing great and so I don't like birthdays you know what I mean I wish I wish I had something but I know I just don't I think I don't know I think it's also like as I get older too the passage of time feels less and less like what I thought it would be like as a kid where I'm like damn what's I remember being in my mid 20s be like dude what's you're gonna be like when you're fucking 41 fool like are you serious i definitely thought like there was no

point in not smoking or like doing things that are bad for me because like what that that time is like imaginary like how could that possibly happen yeah will that possibly be like yeah and now i'm kind of like now that i'm in and i'm like okay well like now i i don't know there just maybe feels these years feel more meaningful but like mentally unfortunately i still feel like i'm 25 yeah um but you're 28 which is like that that's way different than 25 you thank you know thank you so much thank you so that is a thing like i hear a lot of similar uh you know people being like god i feel so old who who are like in their late 20s early 30s i'm always just i'm like bro you don't even have a i remember saying shit like that too and it would be like because the pat i'm like damn like 36 chambers came out this

years ago. I remember like in the beginning of the show we were doing shit. Like they were like, yo! Yeah, yeah. But like in terms of like physically, like I said,

I'm on the stairs, bro. My butt is better than it was at 23. I know. You know? Okay. I'm blazing up these staircases. I just have to stretch more because I realized

stretching out your calves really helps out with the knee pain. Okay? And these are the wisdom nuggets you get at 41. I'm so inflexible. I've just gotten more and more inflexible as I got old. I just walk with my legs locked out now. I know and everyone thinks you're goose stepping or some kind of weird fascist military walk.

I'm sorry, my hamstrings real tight. Yeah. It's kind of like a penguin walk. It's the hamstrings actually. They're locking up. They're locking up. Oh boy.

All right. All right. Just everybody clear out. All right. My overrated. And again, happy birthday. Jesus.

I hope you have a great one. Oh, yeah. I'm going to, I think I'm going to cook. I think I'm going to cook today. It's always the people who deserve it most who are like, why do I even need a birthday? No, but like I'm so jealous of like Lacey, right? Like Lacey has the fourth of Julesy every year. Yes.

And like into an event, it's dope. Like everyone comes together to celebrate and she's like a great person. And but like she's wired to like her personality really fits that kind of thing. And I'm always jealous of people who are like, damn, that's so sick. Like that was a great birthday. Like you, you threw a really. great party for people to come to and like got everyone together like amazing there was an event and the event at the party was lacy arriving to her own party down a staircase so dope

everyone was like oh for me i'd be so nervous and you're gonna fuck up coming down the staircase what do i do with my hands just go to crawls junior just go to carls junior be safe be safe all right my overrated is also related to the shooting um just some a myth that i saw popping up uh right afterwards, which is how skilled you have to be to, like, shoot someone with a gun is a thing that I hear every time something like this happens that I saw, like, with historically Jason Pargin, one of the smartest people I know who, like, kind of grew up in mainstream American gun culture was pointing this out over the weekend. Like, he, he grew up around, like, the magazines with, like, ads for AR-15s and shit like that, that, like, you know,

And those ads are like, sell you fantasies about, like, somebody coming to your house and you, like, getting to shoot them, essentially. But he pointed out that, like, it's a common myth that crops up after a highly publicized shooting that you, like, have to be an expert marksman to, like, murder someone from a distance. Like, I even, you know, people, people were like, that was clearly a trained assassin after the Charlie Kirk shooting. And that's based on what? Movies. yeah movies I saw people being like they sent the jackal to kill Charlie Kirk um and this was actually a thing that came up after the JFK assassination where people the one of the reasons that everyone was like it had to have been multiple shooters they thought it would be too difficult for somebody to shoot him at that distance with the rifle and like then a guy who owned a gun shop just like did it on CBS news like easily and what do you mean like they had like a motorcade and he was like here, this is how you do it? Yeah, I forget how they recreated it.

It was like in the, it was year, like in the years after the assassination, just like, no, this is pretty easy. I'm not like an expert marksman here. I can do it for you. They're done. But I feel like it's a thing we want to believe because it probably makes us feel safer in a country that's full of guns. Like if guns are these highly specialized weapons that only a like trained master can use

at a distance to harm someone, we're all a little safer. and the truth is, like, they are very simple devices that people, anyone who, like, has access to them and practices for a little while can use with accuracy at, like, very scary distances. And, like, we've seen this over and over again. Like, Kirk's killer, you know, the main suspect is just a 22-year-old who was, like, kind of into guns in the way that a lot of American people are. the guy who almost killed Trump was known for being like the worst shot in his high school gun club like they made fun of him for sucking at shooting things and like I remember at that time people were like must have been a trained marksman to come that close and yeah I just think gun culture wants to first of all like help their members feel cool and important and like they haven't have earned something by being. able to shoot stuff and it also just like makes the guns seem less dangerous than they are in fact in the hands of a skilled marksman then it becomes an instrument of death like feeds into that whole like tough guy trained gun culture shit and they are literally like point and click things you

if you have enough time you can point the gun at the thing you want to shoot and shoot that thing and I used to shoot somewhat, like, regularly in high school and college. Yeah. And I was, I remember the first time, like, shooting, like, an AR. I was surprised at how accurate this thing was already. Like, I was hitting, like, a plinker down range, like, 100 yards with, like, iron sights. And I was like, huh? And then you're like, oh, right.

These are, these are made to be very operator friendly to do, to make bullet go where you want it to go. Yeah. But, like, yeah, I definitely had that, like, sort of realization. I was like, oh, this, because I had the very much, like, media-informed version of what I thought it was to shoot guns. Right. And then you're like, oh, these are scarily accurate. But I don't have guns anymore. It actually never did.

I was always, I had to do so many friends. Dude, so many friends' parents. Like, just that generation of people would have just so many guns. Like it's funny like I would talk to some of my friends and I'm like how many guns did your like parents actually have? They're like so many like I made them get rid of it like once I started having kids because like I don't I was like this is this is obscene and it's like but he's like my grandpa was a cop in the 50s. So this is just kind of like what people did all the time is have a fucking stockpile of weapons. And then as they get older like that's that is scary too like the conversation that's a conversation that's a conversation that you know people I know have been having with like. like a relative who's like going through a tough time.

It's like you have to go get the gun. Oh, yeah. I want you to do. Just older people too. Like I remember when my, when my grandparents were selling their house. Like,

and they were moving out of like the house that like I, you know, I always knew to be my grandparents' house. Like as we were cleaning up, like we were just finding like loose guns. Yeah. Like my grandma was like, oh,

that was my old 22. I used to keep that in my pocket book. I'm like, what the fuck are you? This shit is loose. Yeah, like in a box with like belts. that nobody had any idea that they had guns.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, this is the thing that, I don't know, I continue to be struck by that everybody just kind of, we move past it and on to the thing,

like trying to, you know, someone gets shot by someone else for no good reason. And it's just, you know, parsing the reasons instead of looking at the thing that made it possible. Right. Exactly.

They could have done that shit whenever they wanted for whatever reason they want. It's just weird how so far past that. like usually this people would be there would be some kind of gun control anything yeah but now because the media is completely controlled by like like or at least the lens of the media is now perfectly attuned to the conservatives it's like who was this guy and how and how trans could he be or leftist and you're like what the fuck yeah yeah um all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back This is a tape-recorded statement.

The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.

The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life,

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Listen to Aunt CRISPR, the story of Jennifer Dowdna with Walter Isaacson on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink.

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We're back. And so, yeah, as we've all heard by now and mentioned, up top, a suspect in the Charlie Kirk shooting was arrested. shockingly, a young white guy, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson. He was probably a leftist, right? Big D Democrat came from a long, yeah, came from a long line of anarchic leftists.

His mother was a sentient copy of Das Kapital, I believe. No, his entire family are Republicans. They were all like, we actually haven't, we've never met someone who's not a Republican. This is, this comes as a real surprise to us that you're telling us that he was not a Republican. We don't even really know what that means. What was the grandmother's quote?

The grandmother's quote said, my son, his dad is a Republican for Trump. Most of my family members are Republicans. I don't know any single one who's a Democrat. I'm just so confused. They just confused at the prospect that one of them would be a Republican. Jesus. How does that happen if somebody is a Republican?

him don't don't say that too loud grandmother we don't want the truth to come out right that's yeah well we'll get to like all the all the ways that people who were critical of charlie kirk or you know callous in the aftermath of the shooting have been targeted it's kind of still early it's not clear exactly what people were saying to get fired we just know that people are being fired for not having the state approved response yeah not having the state approved response of mourning for Charlie Kirk. But yeah, so Utah governor, Spencer Cox, claimed that Robinson was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology, even though, and I mean, we know that they jumped to this super fast when the bullet casings were discovered, even before they had a

suspect. Like, they didn't, they didn't catch this guy. His parents saw the video and allegedly. His dad who was a sheriff, right? Yeah. It's, unclear if his dad was a sheriff. There's like a lot of different reports that then like are having to be taken back. But the one like some people are saying that they had to like lock him in a room to like keep him. But you know, a lot of people were saying his dad was a sheriff and then I saw that being retracted. But anyways, they just saw his picture and were like that's him and like turned him in. The FBI completely fuck. If that hadn't happened, it's unclear what they would have done because they They didn't have anything that was, like, leading them in this direction.

Because they were looking for a leftist. Right, exactly. There were bullet casings discovered at the scene, like, loaded into the gun, and then the one that was spent. And they had various references to memes. Yeah, Groyper memes. Yeah. So, I mean, it's kind of hard to tell exactly what the memes are referencing. Like, they're just edge lord memes that are used by a lot of.

extremely online people. They're definitely used by Groypers and, you know, a lot of the Nick Fuentes supporters use these memes a lot. Nick Fuentes was very critical of Charlie Kirk as being like two to centrist. Yeah, and then he immediately, you know,

assumed as a correct position in the aftermath. But yeah, so, I mean, it could, it could be anything, but we know what they wanted it to be. What the official response wanted it to be is that he was leftist and a supporter of trans rights or indoctrinated by trans ideology because that is, that was their initial read on what was carved into the bullet casings, even though the only thing that was suggesting trans rights or anything ended up being manufacturer markings on the bullet. Oh, yeah, because it said like TRN or something. Yeah. Yes. So that's, they claimed that that was some sort of trans rights message being sent by the killer and have had to backtrack, but like not really. That was reported on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. And since that, since it's like being clear that that is not what those markings were, they have been like, we just heard an early, like that they kind of correct it. or like say how they got it wrong without being like,

we're so sorry to. That's wrong. And we shouldn't have done. Yeah. Yeah. We're so sorry about, you know, putting something out there at a time when people are, you know, calling for violence that targets the most targeted group of people,

the most vulnerable group of people in the United States. Yeah. There's just no acknowledgement that they fucked up in a unbelievable way. that was incredibly dangerous. Yeah. There's just, I mean, there's, I mean, between that, there's like the Hell Divers, like video game code in there that's like a really, like, like fascists love that game.

There's a lot of stuff that you're like, oh, okay, this overlaps a lot with some of the interests of the far right. Yeah. And then, yeah, like he even went as like a like a Groyper meme for Halloween, like maybe seven years ago. And people were like, okay, who knows what that means. It could, who knows whatever. But a lot of it does.

seem to suggest that this isn't some person who was door knocking for Bernie Sanders or something like that. Like they would want you to believe that. He went as Donald Trump with his face painted green like very recently for Halloween. Like a, yeah, reference to like the Trump Pepe shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're going to do whatever they can to try and contort every single bit of information that we do have to not be.

whatever this is. And now they're like, he's not cooperating with investigators. And like, I wonder, I wonder what that means. Right. Like if they're like, you're left. You're not saying the thing that we want you to say. Yeah. Or maybe he truly is just not saying anything because that's kind of maybe this whole

event was meant to, you know, accelerate the degradation and conflict in the country. I don't think we know anything about like what was what his motives were. And I also think that anytime you're really. leaning in and like hoping to have coherent ideology behind anyone who does something like this you're you like Luigi Mangione's manifesto like doesn't is not like coherent in any way like this guy's you know beliefs are probably not going to be any one specific thing it's not going to be a thing that like a political science professor would be like coherent well you know well reasoned Um, it's probably going to be all over the place. Um, that just seems, you look at Leah Harvey Oswald's like, uh, you know, politics and like what he believed. And it was all over the place. Uh, he was like trying to impress Russia possibly. But like it, nobody really knows what was going on there. And so it just becomes this opportunity to like take whatever you want from it. It seems like. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, God. It's, it's,

It certainly hasn't stopped, like, the rhetoric from people like Stephen Miller and Trump who are like, we're going to dismantle the left and its ideology of destruction as a way to kind of, you know, got to, you have to exploit a crisis at every moment. Yeah, exactly. Never waste a crisis that is, you know, the fascist playbook. And I think they're probably going to use it. I think a lot of people are trying to, like, find the historic corollary for what we're seeing here. And like I've heard people be like this is we're in a civil war, but like it's unclear what that would even look like because it's hard to know like who is on what side, you know, like what or like regionally like who it seems like you have people that are on the fringes and then you have most people who are in the middle who don't even know who the present like who don't even know what's going on in the country half the time.

Right. Right. So it's, yeah, the where people's attention is is definitely like a huge factor in it. And I think it's kind of spread all over the place. Yeah. So I don't know. Like I've heard it compared to the troubles in Ireland where like the outgroup is like controlled and abused with military police. And then they're like periodic outbursts of like terrorist violence or, you know, terrorist quote unquote violence. But it's really hard. I think all we know is that the Trump administration, which was already using. state power to violently control whoever they wanted is going to use this to do that probably more forcefully, I think. Yeah, it's just weird because like

Trump doesn't even give a shit. Like he didn't even go to the vigil. Like he went to golf. He was at the, uh, he was at the Yankees game like the night after it happened dancing. He seemed to, it almost seemed like he wanted to assure

people. Everything was okay. But it does just seem like he didn't give a shit like there was one I think this was a real video I haven't like found confirmation because the people who are like linking off to the clip seem to mostly be like not fact checked organizations but do you see the thing where like somebody was like how are you holding up like in the aftermath of charlie kirk and he was like very well I think I don't know if he like misheard but he was like very well you know we've got the I think the oval office redesign is going to be great and just like kind of I've changed the subject to...

With his cognitive decline, he probably doesn't care, you know, truly. But his brain is all over the fucking place. I mean, did you see that picture of him at the 9-11 Memorial with half his face drooping? Yeah, we should talk about that next, I think. But yeah, okay, so this is the thing that Brian the editor just linked off to in the comments. But Spencer Halcimian on X tweeted this back and forth. My condolences on the loss of your friend, Charlie Kirk. How are you holding up?

how are you holding it I think very good and by the way right there you see all the trucks it's like a bad improviser where you come into a scene where you have a joke you want to get on

you need to say and someone's like nice day isn't it and you're like my leg is a turkey and you're like what the fuck okay

but yeah for him he has to sort of get everybody to praise whatever he's doing I got out of the ball, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Just brag, brag, bullshit brag is the only kind of speed that he knows. There are a lot of people pointing to his appearance at this 9-11 memorial the next day in the morning where the right side of his face seemed to be falling off his head.

Like it seemed to be really drooping down. He was out here acting like he was smelling burning hair. Yeah. Okay. But it's probably nothing, right? Just having your face, half your face, troop as you look totally out of it. Right. It was also funny because I'm not funny.

You saw more people be like, that's why that address he gave. It was AI probably because look at his face. They can't cover it up. But they're like, then there are other people being like, sounds like he might just be having these like little strokes a lot. Yeah, yeah. Right. Little minor. Probably not an issue at all.

I mean, like this guy. he's i don't know i'm not a fucking doctor but even but i'm going to say this that seems like something is happening neurologically that's just my observation because i would have to effort to make half my face droop i'd be like hey you want to see a funny bit yeah this is me with my half my face drooping um but you know that that that's fine because we have to completely ignore can do a face droop and pretty impressive i i tried to do it and i can't really do it can't really get there look i i spent a lot of time as an only child looking in the mirror asking why but then also i learned how to get really good independent control is everybody

half my face but i mean like it goes along with just the shit he says in public right like he's he's he's like he'll answer a question like he misses the context of a question just says whatever he wants to and then on sunday he was asked about the fucking illegal war crime murder of the Venezuelans on the, quote, drug boat that was like, did a U-turn? He's like, no, they were trying to kill America with their drugs. It was a fucking mass murder. I don't know, because they're trying to ramp up some kind of larger conflict with Venezuela. But Trump was asked Sunday about it, and this is his answer.

They said the president of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal. This is Trump's. He gives the what aboutism of the week because there's so many happening all the time. But here's Trump's answer to that was an illegal, that was an illegal killing, extra illegal killing of people. You're going with us? Are you going with us? Maggie? Not with you.

Good. Just one more in Venezuela. The presidential of Venezuela called the strike on the boat illegal. Are you concerned that Maduro might escalate something? What's illegal are the drugs that were on the boat

and the drugs that are being sent into our country and the fact that 300 million people died last year from drugs. That's what's illegal. 300 million people. Hold on. Let me just quickly. I just have 340 million people in the United States.

Okay, so that's a lot of people. 300 million last year. That's, so there, how many people are in the United States? 330, 340, depending on what web browser you use and what AI they're using to Comstats. Right. So there's only 40 million of us here. Seems high. Seems high.

Seems high. Also, can someone ask a follow up right there? Do you think he's a liar? Would you call him a liar? Seemed to be the follow-up. So what you're saying is he's a fucking liar, right? How do we turn this into good? You know what's illegal?

It's drugs. Drugs are illegal and then you die and that's all it. That's me. Okay. 80,000 appears to be the actual number of overdosed deaths in the United States. That actually is too many. Remember 1,500% off your prescription drugs? Right.

1,500. Like, at a point, you got to just keep hammering away. It's like, hey, was the president miss speaking again or is something wrong with him? Right. Just say that every time. They're like, don't even ask about it. Say, the president said 300 million people died of drug over there. That's, that can't, that's mathematically impossible.

So was he miss speaking or is he just, is something wrong with him? Because he keeps doing this a lot. Does he not know math? He doesn't care, or his brain broke? It broke. Let's take a quick break, and we'll be back. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.

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and she got to say free Palestine and fuck ice during her speech Jack come on say the whole thing Go birds fuck ice free Palestine which the birds in question not just my overall

enthusiasm for the species but she's an Eagles fan what happened with them did something happen in their game yesterday They just beat They had a Super Bowl rematch With the Chiefs

And they beat them again Not quite as bad as last time I saw that And people talking about The Tush Push a ton On the internet Yeah I don't I actually didn't watch the game

I know that the Tush Push They try Like other coaches tried to Outlaw the Tush Push Over the off season And did not get it done So the Eagles are free Is done with the Tush Push

Who's Dien Blan Dino? damn holy shit not i mean once you lose dean blandino you're kind of fucked it is for people who don't know it is a play that is so powerful that nobody can stop it it just goes for four yards every time

it's um everybody lines up and then they just like push on their quarterback's ass to like push it forward and they push the whole pile forward and it's just weird because the debate over it seems to be should it be illegal or not

because it's this massive advantage they have and nobody is just like why isn't anyone else doing it just do it just everybody just if it's so powerful that you need to make it illegal just do the fucking push push maybe on account of like them

being uncomfortable with pushing on asses no way Philly isn't that why people play football team. Yeah, I know. That's the whole thing. It's just, just constantly patting each other and slapping each other on the ass. The quarterback's the dirtiest one, dude. He's like, owls. Gets back there, man. Oh, yeah, I bring my own center to every team I go to. Like, what? So anyway, go birds, fuck ice, free Palestine. All right. Just real quick on the Palestine side of things, Javier Bardem was also at the Emmys and out on the red carpet, you know, voiced his support for a boycott of any company that is supporting

the Israeli government's genocide campaign in Gaza. And yeah, so it seems to be, I don't know, like people, when she said that, there was a loud cheer in the audience. So I don't know, this is a change from where things started in this movement. Well, yeah, because now there's like an artist. There's like a new list of people. I feel like I got to compare the lists of people who are now like signing on to like,

let's knock it off in Gaza list. Hey, hey, hey, let's knock that off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the genocide? Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's let's knock that off. That's a powerful term. Can we pump the brink on the genocide? Yeah, yeah. If you say that, I have to go.

We get a little break pumpage. Yeah. This is getting less and less meaningful. on this bad boy who just this you know this whole thing man that bad boy over there say name use a proper noun the deal the deal the the deal in the middle of you know okay you whatever okay well thanks so much yeah thanks for your support yeah but um she was asked about it later and you know said that she feels as a jewish person that it is her obligation to um you know protect her people and her belief system and her, like, you know, their long, uh, cultural

heritage from what is happening and like, you know, separate all the great things that come with the Jewish faith and culture from, uh, what, what is being done in their name, uh, which is a genocide by the Israeli government. Um, so I thought that was, uh, pretty cool. Um, yeah. So, so as, as, that was happening as she said that there was a counter on the screen uh counting backwards and uh if you hadn't been watching the whole show you you're probably not clear what what that was i said is she losing is she lose about to lose a hundred thousand dollars if she speaks i was not it was not clear docking her yeah so basically the the show opened with nate brigatsy was the host this was kind of his joke like he didn't really do a monologue apparently he just said that um he would he was going to

donate a hundred thousand dollars to the boys and girls clubs of america but to keep the show tight if speeches went over 45 seconds money would start being removed from that donation so speeches that went oh anybody who went over instead of being played off it would just be a counter that you're fucking over the children that they were stealing money from literal children and then the broadcast put up a literal counter on the screen during speeches showing the money going down um which might have like i don't know it might have been a funny like one-off thing but it was it actually they kept happening for every speech what the fuck they kept it going you gotta let the bit rest bargotsie come on maybe you can't do that and also like it's you're not you haven't identified a thing that

annoys people to the point that it makes sense right you know what i mean people aren't always like I get that some there is a thing there is the trope of long acceptance speech yeah yeah but it's never to the point where you're like yeah you know what we have to put the well-being of children at risk right those got to be the stinks and we can all get behind this yeah just fucking weird like again like to your point it's fine a couple times but if it's every it was every single one yeah they did it every time you've completely changed the entire tone of the award show now it's an award show where a hundred thousand dollars being held hostage yeah what it would have been great is if a bunch of people said fuck kill the counter bro i'm gonna give 200 watch this and i'm gonna go for

a minute and a half and everybody was stunting with their donations okay maybe you have something there but the fact that it was like this hundred thousand dollar donation yeah so that's why she said i'll make up the difference okay that is why all right hannah and he ultimately was like ah psych we're going to give the full amount we were just kidding you're not a sociopath but it makes you kind of look like one yeah uh all right those are some of the things that are trending on this monday september 15th miles of gray day hey shout out a shout of my boy prince harry you know what i mean yeah mainly we just want to shout out prince harry and like we're we're all thinking of him and duke of sex sex sex sex

Hey, man. Isn't that why he, dude, he chose that name. I told him, that's a sick-ass name, dude. Dude, Duke of Sussex, dude. Whoa. He's into some wild shit. All right, my boy. That's right.

All right. Back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines where you still can. Get your flu shots where you still can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow.

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