The Daily Zeitgeist - Milk… It Trends A Body Good 1/20: Nobel Peace Prize, Trump's Peace Board, "Hole" Milk

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

In this edition of Milk… It Trends A Body Good, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Trump "winning" the Nobel Peace prize* & launching his "Peace Board",  the right wing ...whole milk culture war and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Uh, that new Game of Thrones show is actually kind of good. Is it? Does it just come out? The Night of the Seven Kingdoms? It's funny. It's like a, it's funny. It's not like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I don't know, but they're not taking themselves seriously. And there is like, there are two jokes that I was like, I'm sorry. I was like, actually good, good jokes. They were just kind of so specific. It's like such a specific humor that you would never see in a, Game of Thrones show. Right. That like,
Starting point is 00:00:36 it's just, there's like one thing. It's all about like this, this surf or, you know, a page or whatever for a night. His knight dies. And now he's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:00:46 well, I got this like sword and shit. Maybe I can be a night. And starts like going on this journey as like a fake ass night. And then like, but then his like relationship, you can see it starting over again because he meets another kid who's like an orphan who needs,
Starting point is 00:01:01 who wants to be a page. age to a night. But he, this guy's also a not a night. So it's just kind of like, it has like heart. And it was funny. I was like, based on any George R. Martin? No clue. No clue. I don't know anything that he wrote. I have no idea anything. I just know that the show was much better when it was based on her. But never funny. So. No, exactly. I think this is just like texture for people who like in the same way, like there's too many Star Wars shows. Well, this this one's like fun. Right. Yeah, yeah. Differentiate it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Well, set your expectations for like mind blowing. But although, I don't know, I like, I stopped it just to be like, I think I'm going to watch this with milady. With milady. When did that just drop the first episode this weekend? I don't know. I think it's been out for maybe the second. I don't know. I just remember, I just saw one headline that was like, it was like, wow, this Game of Thrones show is, is refreshingly not taking itself seriously.
Starting point is 00:02:01 interesting or it was like something for people with like game of thrones fatigue this is a refreshing departure from everything and i was like just from that alone i was like what are you talking about and then you get a i'll just shit there's just there's just a fucking violent diarrhea scene like dumb and dumber ask yes dude he's like dreaming of being a night and they just smash cut to his like fucking you know westeros diarrhea that he's having out of the outside. Oh, my God. Anyway, I know you're saying.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I mean, the shits that they must have been taking back then. I mean, based, it was like they were doing like the SNL vomit hose level of what was happening. Like, it was profile so you couldn't see, but clearly there's just a tube just launching shit. Like, it's, it's gratuitous. And that's why I was like, this is a game with the own show. But, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It was enough that I got a nice. surprised chuckle out of it. I'm John Polk. For years, I was the poster boy of the conversion therapy movement. The ex-gay who married an ex-lesbian and traveled the world telling my story of how I changed my sexuality from gay to straight. Once upon a time, I was on 60 Minutes, Oprah,
Starting point is 00:03:28 the front cover of Newsweek. And you might have heard my story, but you've never heard the real story. So join me as I peel back the layers and expose what happened to me in the midst of conversion therapy To shine a light on what the ex-game movement does to people and the pain it continues to cause I had lost 150 pounds because if I couldn't control my sexuality I was going to control my weight It sounded like, and this is the word I used, a cult and as I look too at the harm I did from within Listen to Atonement, the John Polk story on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:15 New Year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever. I am Matt, and I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to How to Money on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler,
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Starting point is 00:06:41 IHeart. Follow Sacred Lessons with Mike Deloosa and start listening on the free IHeart Radio app today. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of their daily zeitgeist. Yeah. Yeah. It's production of IHeart Radio. My name's Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, yeah. Hello, hello, hello, hello to all my European friends. We come in peace. We're so sorry that we are currently being ruled by a man with dementia and the power of the U.S. military. Dude, Reddit is a mess. There's so many American people going under European subreddits and apologizing. And I'm so sorry. Like, just not us, it's not us or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And like a lot of Europeans, like, you know the same way you probably like flatten us into one country? It's like, well, all the blanks are like this. They're like, yeah, that's what's happening with you. And I know that people, they're like, we all intellectually know. You are not forgiven. They're like, we all intellectually know that at an individual level, this is not you. But just so you know, when you say you're American, this is what it is. Do not come here.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or get, you better work on that accent, boy. Work on that Canadian. Yeah. Canada wants the smoke. I've been impressed with Canada's response. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Thus far. I mean, they should be like, I think I've been. saying since, especially since the Venezuela shit, it's like, someone needs to come and smack us in the fucking teeth. The only thing he respects. Yeah. The only thing he respects is people who don't bow down.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's true bully shit. It's like the award that he wants. Yeah. The second someone goes, man, fuck you. They're like, oh. Yeah. Look at how he responded to Mom Donnie. Like, he was just like, they're texting now. Did you see that headline? No.
Starting point is 00:08:33 They exchange, like, correspondence now over text. You love? Yeah. WIA. We're there. All right. This is the episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What's trending this morning? We also like to let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you. Some of the things we think are overrated and underrated. Our guests usually do this during the regular episodes. But we like to get in there, get our hands dirty a little bit on these Monday episodes. or Tuesday episodes. Miles, what is something that you think is underrated? Listening to music without any distractions.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I think I do this all the time. Like I have music on all the time. And it's nice to have on the background. But like the act of just listening to music, give all of your attention to listening to music is fucking amazing. I have to remind people. And I think also too, because we also have like headphones on, the other thing I was going to say listening with headphones on,
Starting point is 00:09:37 but I have headphones on all the time and shit's just like passively coming through them as I try and ingest as much information as humanly possible in like a given hour. Right. But like you have different things coming through each headphone. Oh yeah. I got three pairs of AirPods that I hook up to different things.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You don't know where the third pair is. No, it's my nostril because it's closer to my head. But no, I think the thing with really listening without distraction, And it really also takes me back to how I used to listen to music, like when I was a teenager. Yeah. Like when that was a thing, it's like, I'm going to put the CD in the Walkman and I put my fucking behind the ear weird ass headphones or whatever I had at the time and just sit there and like nod my head and fucking listen to a song on loop because I wasn't distracted with all this other shit. Really listening to anything, any music that you like you really, really enjoy. But without, I do this at night now.
Starting point is 00:10:31 as like a way to start winding down is like let me just put a playlist on just kind of just chill in bed not read the phone but let the music take you yeah and i just think we listen to music so much with distractions whether we're driving or walking and commuting or these other things that just like doing it as the ancients did i think really i think really has a a benefit to us on some right i encourage people to do that yeah i haven't done this in so long this is this is this is a good, good reminder for me. Music is only something to do while you're doing something else for me at this point. Right, but it used to be, I'm sure, like, the thing I described when it's like, you fucking, you had to go get a cassette sing, a cingle or a CD single or whatever, like that, your entire existence was based on, I must go get this piece of music so I can go listen to it. It was a major life event when my case logic got stolen in high school. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like for me and a bunch of my friends, they were like, depending on that. Yeah, we're depending on that. It's like the remote musical. The musical Rosetta Stone you have. Yeah. It was bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And I haven't done it. I used to be annoying about like, like, just being like, what do you think Jizzam means there? What do you think feminine like sandals? What do you think? Should we stop wearing sandals? You got,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and you got bad wild ass sandals on you? You're like, guys, what do you think he meant by that? He's probably talking about sandals that aren't wreaths. And then we just high-five each other. Tiva gang. Yeah. But my friends used to make fun of me for being like, okay, Jack's going to do some like numerology,
Starting point is 00:12:14 Wutang lyric analysis on this one. All right. I'm going to take this one under advisement. Thank you for that. Yeah. I got two underrated. One is just they were showing highlights in the college football championship of this,
Starting point is 00:12:29 the team that won, Indiana University won. Oh, they won? Yeah, came out of nowhere. Went undefeated the whole year. Not to be a real. Like their first title, right? Yeah, first ever.
Starting point is 00:12:39 The first team to go undefeated and win the championship and I don't know, a long time. I feel like I was watching college football the last time Miami won. Yeah, yeah. It was like the, 2002 or one or something.
Starting point is 00:12:51 The different era of television. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The picture just looks fuzzy. Right, right, right. Yeah. The, yeah, my, it was Indiana versus Miami. And then, like, at one point, they showed a highlight package of, like, this amazing season,
Starting point is 00:13:05 the Indiana quarterback who won the, uh, Heisman had this year. And they, like, showed one where he, like, threw a touchdown and then ran to celebrate. And his lineman, like, picked him up, held him up in the air like a princess. Ah, or, like, in, like, dirty dancing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just like, that's so, that's so fun, man. like football is such a homo erotic sport
Starting point is 00:13:29 like you might as well just like lean into that shit like because yeah like I think it was just a spur of the moment thing where he like jumped and like the lineman wasn't jumping so he just like held him up but it was so cute where we belong and man people are hungry for it
Starting point is 00:13:48 look at heated rivalry you know they just let it let it fly yeah let it fly baby and my other one my other one is Greek myths just spending a lot of time in the world of Greek myths right now because my kids are kind of obsessed
Starting point is 00:14:04 this is one of those things when we were talking at one point we got like interested in the things that are like temporary obsessions of kids like in terms of phases you have yeah phases and like how those map to the biggest movies of all time like kids get obsessed with
Starting point is 00:14:25 dinosaurs and Jurassic Parks, one of the biggest movies. Kids get obsessed with sharks and Jaws is one of the biggest movies. People get into Civil War because it dances with wolves. Yeah, exactly. Like I did. But Greek myths was one of those that was kind of an outlier for me. I was like, man, I didn't remember, like I kind of remembered some kids being really into it, but I never really got into it. So my kids are kind of real into it right now. Yeah. Like we're listening to podcasts. I'm reading them the Percy Jackson, books and uh brian the editor was a big oh big greek myth kid self broclic he's no friends he said but i got to say i except for the deities that you i missed out by like because i you know i was
Starting point is 00:15:10 raised to a very strict catholic family and like the bible like called itself the greatest story ever told and i'm just like come on man the that anybody who believes that has not been reading Greek myths. Like it's, I don't have great examples because I'm just like sort of over, like it's a lot of background listening of like over here in the podcast or, you know, reading them bed stories while I'm half asleep. But right, I always kind of assumed it was just like a different Bible, like in the Bible, a group of people like will, like the stories in the Bible are just they don't have great narrative structure. They'll be like, and lo, he went unto their town and slew 20 men with the jawbone of an ass.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Right, right, right. But Greek myths just luxuriate in, like, they have people being tricked and having weird sex and like falling in love and making sex with animals and sex with animals. And it's not taboo, like in the dang Bible. Generally, they're just fine with it. It's just generally, like the more I listen to it, the more I'm like, this isn't really the origin of like I think it might be
Starting point is 00:16:24 slightly overrated in terms of like being like oh every one of these is a recognizable psychiatric pathology sure sure like it is the origin of our stories like how we tell stories there's just like so many recognizable
Starting point is 00:16:40 like story tropes throughout and it's just like yeah they invented the soap opera and like television the serialized television show. And also that movie Troy, apparently based on some shit in Greek mythology, too.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Apparently. So it's all based on that, dude. The Odyssey, probably. Yeah. Yeah, the Odyssey. So I do feel like I'm back on board. I feel like the Odyssey's about to fucking wreck everybody's shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Oh, man. Yeah. Like, I just thought of, we were listening to Hercules's story over the weekend. And like, I just thought of Hercules, a strong guy.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And like, I didn't realize, there's like a PTSD, like OJ Simpson esk storyline buried in there where like he comes back from battle and then just like goes And his ex-wife is there with some
Starting point is 00:17:29 fucking waiter from a restaurant family, you know it's a kids podcast So they're like yeah Wait there's like a Ron Goldman character in the life of Hercules. Yeah well they don't go into the characters because it's a kid's version of things
Starting point is 00:17:45 but it's like he comes back he's a celebrated hero and then he like one of the gods is whispering in his ears and makes him go mad and then he like destroys his family and his town right right right and then he like that's why he has to like go and do the 12
Starting point is 00:18:01 labors of Hercules you know which is then just like a fucking television series of him going on a bunch of different quests and shit right um but yeah just lots of cliffhangers lots of stories interweaving with other stories there is some
Starting point is 00:18:17 psychologically recognizable behavior and it's just like as somebody was just raised on the you know Bible I'm like yeah this isn't just like their Bible as much it's as as in terms of storytelling and you know as as a as a text for the humanities it's much better no well I'm not going to tell your parents you say that you said that that would be very upsetting to them yeah well the Bible's true so like it can't be good. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, man. I can't believe Jonah got swallowed by that whale. That's right. He was all right. That's the best we got going in the Bible. Oh, wow. You got swallowed by a whale, dude? This guy had sex with a swan. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Miles, what's something you think is overrated? Sex might even be a misnomer there. Yeah. Let's see. Overrated. Just the timing of mainstream media warnings about the Trump presidencies. I think they're on point. I think they're starting to notice something might be up here. They might, I think they, I think they're starting to see. So, okay, look, the press has always known Donald Trump was unfit for office. They have always known that his presidency would be ruinous for many, if not all. But the pushback has always been like muted.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You know, like there are times every now and then you see the press report on a story like, oh, that's a bit of transparency. Other times you see journalists hold on to a story until they have a fucking book come out. then they're like, oh yeah, here's this piece of information that would have been really consequential, but I got a book. I'm going to save it for my book. And it wasn't really until this weekend where I've seen multiple headlines that for the first time seemed like adequate in terms of describing the situation.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Because like, yeah, yeah, where the Daily Beast says it's like basically it's time for the 25th amendment. Another headline reads, quote, now is the time to admit it. Oh my God, he admitted it. Now is the time to admit it. America, Trump is a dangerous lunatic moron. I'm sorry. Are you listening to this show?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Right. These guys said, this guy is a dangerous lunatic moron. He's a shithead. The Atlantic says, quote, that the letter to Norway should be the last straw. The last straw? That's it, boy. Holy shit. Like, it wasn't the open mouth.
Starting point is 00:20:44 makeout with white nationalism in his first term. It wasn't all everything that came along. It wasn't the, it wasn't January 6th, they were, they were shot. And that was like the one time we're like, this is too much. But it's also like, you're calling for this with literally two weeks left in his presidency that he has to like step down. Come on. Come on. We were all there.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It wasn't the uprisings and his handling of that. That was the last straw. It wasn't the fucking, it wasn't right now with the ice raids and the murders. Yes. Like, you know, there's so many things. You're constantly like this person is hates everyone and wants everyone to be living in absolute pain. But now this is the last straw. It's, it's last straw.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And again, I think it's only because, and we'll talk about this, line go down. That line do go down sometimes. Yeah, line do go down sometimes. Because all the other things I just described as being like, that wasn't your moment to fucking proclaim that this can't go on anymore. Because none of those things were affecting them directly. Yeah. And I think now... Seems like you're starting to lose the confidence of the
Starting point is 00:21:47 capitalist. Yeah, yeah, that now... And I think it's just like, it's not strange to us or the people that listen to this show, but it's just like so infuriating that you have this, now this the media class or the mainstream media class says things like, this cannot go on anymore. And I get that you'll be exhausted
Starting point is 00:22:07 hearing that over and over and over again and maybe people aren't receptive to the thing until the right time. But, you know, like when someone needs help, I tell them, like, hey, man, you need help. You look like you're struggling. I can help you need something. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:22:19 You are all right? You are right? I never stopped saying that. Right. You know what I mean? In the same way, like you would warn something. Hey, man, maybe don't fucking douse yourself in gasoline and play with those like sparklers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 You know, that's going to be bad. It's like, well, they weren't ready for the message. Right. Be consistent with this. Yeah. It seems like, I mean, we talked very early on the show about the historic precedent that like right when Hitler first came on the scene, it was front page news. Everything he did was front page news. And then by the time he swept to power, it was like eighth page
Starting point is 00:22:53 news because they were just used to it and tired of it. And it feels like a natural sort of physics of how like news media works where people are just like, yeah, but that's, I mean, we saw it like the joke version where Barry Weiss was like, we can't cover this story about how they're deporting people illegally to torture camps because it's already been covered once somewhere. And it's like, yeah, you can just keep telling yourself that because you don't want to talk about the unpleasant story that should have everybody fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And it's funny because they aired the Poled El Salvador Seacot Prison. story on 16 minutes yesterday. Yeah. They finally did it. I wonder if they're like, I guess maybe. Because now Trump was even like, I'll sue CBS if they don't. It's like, guys, no one's fucking safe. And all of you were bending the knee and doing all this shit thinking that it would make you safer
Starting point is 00:23:54 when really you were just just furthering this whole thing along because you weren't actually sticking up for yourselves. Yeah. And now the only thing he seems to respect is pushing back. Yeah. And now it's come to the point where we're shitting in the faces of allies. Yeah. And like daring the world to completely skull fuck the U.S.
Starting point is 00:24:14 economically, which is possible. I don't know if it's going to get quite there very quickly, but they have the means to do that. And they haven't been shy to say at every moment, we have each other's back and don't think that we will let you push us around. I don't know if you remember because your countries weren't raised in World War II, but, you know, appeasement is not really on the menu to this point anymore. although the Belgians were like, look, we tried appeasing this guy.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And now they're trying to take our dignity. And that's just not going to happen. And you're like, well said, well said. Yeah, my overrated, somewhat related, but just any value that the right claims to stand for that's not white supremacy, we just, I mean, calling them hypocritical is obviously old. But it just does stand to be pointed out. there's a bunch of right wing outrage over people using guns to protect their neighborhoods and being like if ice comes for our citizens here or just like at neighbors then you know we're going to push back which is like that is the right wing wet dream is what they've been
Starting point is 00:25:29 dreaming of for so long in their like second amendment bullshit where they're like they're trying take your guns and then they're going to come for you. And now people are like, no, we're actually going to. And then you can drive from another state and kill an innocent person, like Kyle Rittenhouse. Yeah. But suddenly they're like, this should be a leap. We need to arrest walls. There was also that clip of the Black Panthers in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah. And the boy, the white conservatives, they thought the world was ending. Yeah. They didn't seem to like that one. Second Amendment. Look, again, like, yeah, Second Amendment. Everything is terms and conditions of black. This is your whole shit, right?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Second Amendment protecting yourself and your fellow citizens from government overreach. I thought that's the whole reason you were trying to protect those. Not in this case. Look, I'm deeply insecure and my only metrics for success are being white. And so I need that to be the thing that differentiates me. And if I don't have that, then I'm going to have to come to grips with a lot of failures, There's not only my own personal ones, but maybe of the leadership around me. And I'm not ready for that.
Starting point is 00:26:39 The other one that was just jumping out to me over the weekend is like their whole shit about like, oh, everybody wants a participation trophy. That's exactly what's wrong with America. And then like Donald Trump himself is like got somebody to just like give him an award that he wanted to win that they won. And like that no, everyone's just like, yep. Yes, sir. Good. Good work, sir. She recognized you needed that.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It was like, honestly, it is the most pathetic thing we've seen to date by him, I feel like, is like him bullying the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize into giving it to him. And then once he got it and realized it didn't make him happy. Yeah. Texting the leader of Norway to be like, hey, I'm going to actually start a war with you. Yeah. because you didn't give it to me. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah, and the smile is, as our writer jam put it, that is the happiest we've ever seen him in a picture that was not in the Epstein files. Yeah. Like, he's a smile on his face in that picture. Anyways, we'll get into that one. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Starting point is 00:27:54 We'll talk about the news. We'll be right back. I'm John Polk. For years, I was the poster boy of the conversion therapy movement. The ex-gay who married an ex-lesbian and traveled the world telling my story of how I changed my sexuality from gay to straight. Once upon a time, I was on 60 Minutes, Oprah, the front cover of Newsweek. And you might have heard my story, but you've never heard the real story. So join me as I peel back the layers and expose what happened to me in the midst of conversion
Starting point is 00:28:34 therapy, to shine a light on what the X-game movement does to people, and the pain it continues to cause. I had lost 150 pounds because if I couldn't control my sexuality, I was going to control my weight. It sounded like, and this is the word I used, a cult. And as I look, too, at the harm I did from within it. Listen to Atonement, the John Polk story on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. New year, new goals, and in this economy, a better money plan is more necessary than ever.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I am Matt. And I'm Joel. We are from the How to Money podcast, and every week we help you to spend smarter, save more, and make sense of what's going on out there. If you want 2026 to be the year you finally feel in control of your money, we're here to give you the tools and advice to help you make it happen. Listen to How to Money on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, we've got some incredible guests like Kamail Nanjiani.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Let's start with your cat. How is she? She is not with a thing. Okay, great, great, great way to start. So this is a great beginning and hopefully you'll be able to, I don't know, maybe you will cry. Amanda Seifred. Life is so short. If you feel something like that, you have that fire in you for this experience, it's not for a guy.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It's for the experience of being in love and like it's bigger than a guy. Elizabeth Olson. I love swimming naked so much. And I know you love taking pictures of yourself naked. I love to be naked. I just want to be in my brown underwear all the time. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me?
Starting point is 00:30:19 Are you a boy or girl? Oh my God. All the time. That's so funny. I love it. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:31 No, I turn into Be Arthur. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A new year doesn't mean erasing who you were. It means honoring what you've survived and choosing how you want to grow. It means giving ourselves permission to feel what we've been holding and knowing that it's okay to ask for help. I'm Mike Dolorotcha, host of Sacred Lessons.
Starting point is 00:30:59 This podcast is a space for men to talk openly about mental health, grief, relationships, and the patterns we inherit. but don't have to repeat. Here, we slow down. We listen. We learn how vulnerability becomes strength and how healing happens in community, not in isolation.
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Starting point is 00:31:35 Follow sacred lessons with Mike DeLa Rocha and start listening on the free IHeart Radio app today. And we're back. Donald Trump, what a weekend. Yeah, man. The dementia world tour fucking rumbling on. First Venezuela, Greenland, and now the continent of Europe.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Yeah, I mean like, he won the Nobel Peace bribe, though. That was pretty cool. The Nobel Peace bribe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did receive a piece of medal that had needing for another person. Yeah. But I guess maybe...
Starting point is 00:32:12 Did you see his name is on the plaque that she gave it to him? Exactly. Exactly. Then why would my name be on the plaque? It's like he has like the weird thinking of like how I forget what like indigenous warrior culture was like, I'll eat the heart of my enemy to get their power. You know what I mean? And he's sort of like, I will take these like these awards are mine. I won the Stanley Cup because the Florida Panthers gave me a golden hockey stick the other day.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Did you see that shit for the panther? came by. And he was like, we, like, at this point, they know. It's like, dude, just give him fucking something made of gold. And he's going to just make us the winner of the Stanley Cup for the next five years. I don't even know. And that kind of sucks for me as an athlete who believes in a meritocracy. But fuck it, man.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Let's do this. So I do remember, like early in his presidency going back and reading a profile where he was taking a journalist on a tour of his office. And like, he just spent 90% of the time on sports memorabilia. he had being like the the profile ends with him being like those are the gloves that evander holyfield uh war when he fought buster douglas right it's uh it's a pretty cool life isn't it it's a pretty cool life i guess because you're like stuck in this childhood mode where you're like and these are all my toys um but yeah now trump is looking to do uh basically economic
Starting point is 00:33:37 retaliation for countries that have deigned to assert, you know, Denmark's sovereignty in the situation. This is what he wrote on social media Saturday. The eight European countries, including the UK, France, and Germany will face tariffs, quote, until such time as a deal is reached for the complete and total purchase of Greenland. The tariffs are due to start at 10% on February 1st, then going to 25% on June 1st. Naturally, this has, like I said, just a second ago, stonks, the line are going down as the rest of the world goes, oh, this fucking guy is a total fucking moron and now is selling off U.S. assets. And again, if all of this weren't humiliating enough, presidential behavior continued
Starting point is 00:34:24 when he told Norway he's doing this because he's a giant 80-year-old baby who didn't get the Nobel. So right after these tariffs were announced, the prime minister of Norway reached out politely to ask Trump what fuck you mean, bro? What the fuck you're talking about? And this is the text from the Prime Minister of Norway. Quote,
Starting point is 00:34:44 Dear Mr. President, Dear Donald, on the contact across the Atlantic, on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine, and your tariff announcement yesterday, you know our position on these issues, but we believe we should all work to take this down and de-escalate. So much is happening around us
Starting point is 00:34:58 where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today with both of us or separately. give us a hint of what you prefer best Alex and Jonas. Give us a hint. Yeah. So cute. I get it because they're like, I don't know how to fucking talk to this guy.
Starting point is 00:35:14 This is the response that he gets right after about 30 minutes later from Trump to the fucking prime minister of Norway. Quote, Dear Jonas, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus. Fuck. I no longer feel an obligation to think purely as. peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect the land from Russia or China. And why do they have a quote right of ownership anyway? There are no written documents. It's only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there also. I have done more for
Starting point is 00:35:54 NATO than any other person since this founding. And now NATO should be due something for the United States. The world is not secure unless we have complete and total control of Greenland. Thank you, President DJT. Where to begin here? Where to begin with that? The Nobel Prize is not given out by the government. That's one place to start. Okay. Let's start with the first obviously. It's not the fucking first of even the prime minister. But I guess because Trump thinks he is king and in his fantasy world, anything that happens in the United States happens with his approval that he's like, and of course
Starting point is 00:36:31 you didn't do that and maybe I have dementia, I don't know. We'll never find out. We'll never find out. And then going on to the protected from China and Russia thing, we again we have military installations there already. It is protected.
Starting point is 00:36:48 There is no imminent threat of China or Russia coming to Greenland. Okay. Now. And yeah, we also have the ability to do whatever we want there. All right. Like the way the U.S. operates, it's not being hindered in any way from militarily doing whatever the fuck I want.
Starting point is 00:37:06 We can store nuclear weapons there on the hush. And they're like, I don't know, whatever, dude. Do whatever you want, man. We don't care. Then I think this one probably stuck out to most people with any fucking perspective on American history. This line especially is really funny. Why do they have a right of ownership anyway?
Starting point is 00:37:25 There are no written documents. It's only that a boat landed there. Hundreds of years ago. Sir. So we're just, we're opening it all up for renegotiation. I'd hate to be Childish Gambino, but this is America. The land of, the land of, yeah, and one day these holes showed up on a boat and acted like they own the place. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So now that's not, so what does that mean for this place? I'd love to hear your response there. of course, it's just his stupid logic. He's like, so what, a boat went there and you don't even have, like, receipts for it? He said there's no signed paperwork, again, completely false. There's plenty of them, and their government is held.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah, they've got special stamps and seals and all that shit, Donald. Essentially, that give Greenland its own parliament self-government, you know, it's whatever. Forget I'm even explaining this. And again, this letter, I guess, was sufficiently done. dumb fuck enough for the media to now write those headlines of like, this has to stop. It has to stop. Seems bad, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Seems bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just, you know, the things that he's doing are so bad for U.S. partnerships and allyships that are in effect and the economy. What do you think happens when the dollar declines and declines? And, you know, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:54 a lot of the power of the U.S. is all predicated on the dollar, you know, on the power of the dollar. And it's stability. And when people start saying, you know what, dude, these guys are, it's a jok ting over there. And they start selling everything off. That is going to have a huge effect on your finances too. Like right now, I think one of the, one of the, one, a huge Danish pension fund, they just completely exited U.S. Treasury bonds. And that's huge when they're like, dude, this is no longer a thing for us to even count on for our own. long-term financial benefit, then that does not bode well for everybody else. And like, again, I think this is why before when it's just people of color or trains people being targeted and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, people can look past that. Yeah, it's like, well, I don't know, bro. They're not, well, fuck it. I'll keep my passport on me. And, you know, they're not coming to the Upper West Side or whatever the fuck it is. But now that it's truly like the people who look long term at the financial sector and go, this is going to actually, this could be fucking terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's fucking with our whole thing. Yeah. It's fucking, we got way too much shit on, right? That maybe the wake-up calls are happening. But again, I don't know. We'll see how this week goes because Trump's in, he's going to be at Davos speaking. And if they're not throwing rotten tomatoes at him,
Starting point is 00:40:14 guys, do better. And I know. Directly to the Illuminati. Like, where's the Illuminati at? If there was an Illuminati, man. the outlook would not be good for him. I mean, all jokes aside, too, like, everything's been pretty dire. But right now, especially the elected officials in this country,
Starting point is 00:40:31 look like absolute fools for just kind of like shrugging. I mean, there's these little piecemeal things like, well, we might have the support for impeachment, but you're not going to fucking have enough to convict and get him tossed. And I get that that's all needed. But like, there are so many other things that need to be fucking. sorted out. Like, I just want to play this quote from the Danish parliamentary, the deputy speaker, large Christian Brask, who's basically being like, I don't know guys in the Senate in the House, what the fuck's going on? I'm over here in Denmark, but what are y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:41:05 You know, if I could come with some advice, it would be for the Senate and the House to start to take control of the political power in America. Because with this mad and erratic behavior, you know, you have to ask the question, is the president capable of running United States? And, you know, he makes threats against a friend, a friend that has had diplomatic relationships with the U.S. for 225 years. Yeah, I mean, he goes on essentially to be like, hello? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like, what the fuck? And I think that's the part, maybe the rest of the world hasn't quite figured out, is that like the white nationalist oligarchy has been doing everything they can to get this man in there to just, just fucking lay ways to the norms. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 But I think that's where, again, for all the people who are going to be begging for our support in an election, like these are the moments you really have to kind of think about and be like, is this person even serious enough to understand like what's at risk here? Like it's not enough that people are being kidnapped. And it's not enough that all these people are being made to be villains in our society who are innocent, decent people across the board. Yeah. So I don't know Senate House.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I know Cory Booker put a thing out to be like, we got it. Ice needs to label themselves better. Like, what the fuck guys? You guys are so fucking stupid. and not understanding the stress is that everyone else is experiencing right now. And I think, you know, body cams.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Any body cams, man. And they need a YouTube live stream. You know, they need a Twitch presence. And then maybe things will be different. Yeah. And then he introduced his board of peace, which is like to replace NATO with a club
Starting point is 00:43:11 that he's the head of where you have to pay him like a billion dollars to join. Yeah. He said he's going to blackmail McCron into joining. I don't know if you saw that. He's like this is what I'm talking about. This guy is so
Starting point is 00:43:26 fucking gone mentally that he's now creating this is like a round. This would have been like the maybe penultimate episode of like an apprentice season. Right. It's like and now you want to join the board of peace folks to go to the next round.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Like the board of peace again is your weird fucking C-suite brain trying to create some fucking weird new world order that makes no sense and he's like and I'm going to invite everyone there's going to be Putin
Starting point is 00:43:58 there there's going to be Pulpot and 3D everyone it's going to be great the yeah he just can't see things as anything other than transactional and so he's that's just
Starting point is 00:44:15 he's not serious he's not serious he's not serious Like, this is, it's going, it's, I mean, I was like joking. I'm like, yeah, maybe he'll do something with his appearance. He's going to be like, I need to own this one beach in Brazil specifically. Just that one. It's mine. Oh, because a couple of boats landed there.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Like, I don't even think our most skilled Simpsons writers could game out what is about to happen with just his wacky brain. I know, man. It's, it is, like, it's just like, there is truly nothing. that could surprise me, that you wake up tomorrow and he's just like, I want to star, like I have to star in the next mission impossible. Like, truly nothing could surprise me. But I will say like, yes, his brain appears to be melting and he seems like super sleepy and dementia addled.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But this is also kind of what, like heading into this administration, we had talked a lot about how the first administration was. a version of like Trump where he is surrounded by people who are hitting the breaks on everything that he tries to do. Yeah. And now he has an administration that is hitting the accelerator on everything that he tries to do. And that this is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I think this is just like what you could expect. Like every one of his ideas was bad. He's been, he's had this kind of transactional view of the world since the first administration. he just like doesn't he's not up to up to the task and then he's also a psychopath and a narcissist and a narcissist yeah and everything's about him i think like more than anything it's more that none of the people that are in power except for maybe stephen miller are thinking like long term it feels like most people are trying to think of an exit position that will benefit them financially when this thing comes to a fucking in just whatever
Starting point is 00:46:16 train wreck ending it is. Yeah, I don't know what it looks like. Like the ending, I don't know what it looks like because it looks like, but the people are definitely lining their pockets. That's the one consistent thing is everyone in there is lining their pockets right now. Right. And I think because they know, they're like, bro, I don't know what the, like if I get a couple million out of this and I can fucking get my own bunker and fuck off out of here somewhere else, then I'm going to do that because they don't, you know, like that's like the Venezuela thing with the Greenland thing, all about money. And It's all about how much money can these people make. Because once, you know, a well-timed blood clot hits or somehow a legitimate election happens,
Starting point is 00:46:56 that things could be different. Although, who knows? Once the Democrats go in power, they're like, all right, guys, we're making all the Republicans raise their right hand and pinky promise they'll never do this fuck shit again. Right. Christine Nome, okay, you don't have to go to jail. Okay. That'll do it. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Also, just the logic of being like, since you didn't give me the Nobel Peace Prize, I feel I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace. It is just like mafia shit, like school bully. It's mixed with like teenage fuckboy psychology. Yeah. Well, I guess since we're not dating anymore, I could be with anybody. Right. And it doesn't mean, you won't cry about it, right?
Starting point is 00:47:38 So, yeah. Wow. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. John Polk. For years, I was the poster boy of the conversion therapy movement, the ex-gay who married an ex-lesbian and traveled the world telling my story of how I changed my sexuality from gay to straight. Once upon a time, I was on 60 Minutes, Oprah, the front cover of Newsweek. And you
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Starting point is 00:51:20 on America's number one podcast network, IHeart. Follow Sacred Lessons with Mike Delocha and start listening on the free IHeart Radio app today. And we're back. We do have audio of Donald Trump making kind of a good point that he was on stage about six days ago and entered into a quick moment of, brief lucidity that
Starting point is 00:51:50 I think this is an interesting point. We're just going to play it directly from the man's mouth. Ha! Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, so I mean, like he said, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:13 this is the thing he does sometimes where he goes into some weird impression, but like it's... But he's not a performer. It's not a performer and it's just like embarrassed silence in the room. There's just there's like one person laughing in the back. Good one. Good one, sir. Indeed, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You told whoever that was. All right. There's suddenly a horniness for whole milk on the right that I, you know, I saw the clip of Donald Trump saying whole milk and that's, spelled with a W, you sickos, because he thought, we thought that he was talking about whole milk, like which I guess is come.
Starting point is 00:52:58 More on that one later because I didn't at first realize where he was saying that. But, you know, while he's been busy threatening military intervention of foreign nations and Minneapolis, his administration spent the better part of the weekend posting about milk. RFK Jr. tweeted an AI generated video of himself being magically transported
Starting point is 00:53:21 to a nightclub, thanks to one sip of whole milk. Oh, he did the fucking John Ham. They did the John Ham Friends and Neighbors meme. Yes. Department of Agriculture posted photos of Trump and Riley Gaines
Starting point is 00:53:37 downing whole milk and then wearing the milk mustache being like the milk mustache is back triggered yet lib. Jesus Christ. Riley Gale, oh man, you're going to fucking. Dude, you're going to move the needle so hard.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It's going to break apart. You got Riley fucking gains, dude, the fucking middling collegiate swimmer who was used as a fucking scarecrow for transphobia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Famed sore loser. Did you watch the Pablo Torre deep dive into her? No, I didn't under one. Man, Pablo Tori, I mean, basically was like, this person, they just scooped her out of the muck and
Starting point is 00:54:17 to just become a transphope. Yeah. And like that's, yeah. And she's like, has no real beliefs like that at all. And it's just purely like one of these people's like, well,
Starting point is 00:54:28 it's attention and money. So now. Yeah. And I do like those. Yeah. Yeah. Just full grifter. Bit of a grief.
Starting point is 00:54:36 The whole administration's just all, uh, grifters all the way down. Um, but I mean, first of all, there was a, apparently a god milk campaign like last year.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Last year, yeah, yeah. Nobody really paid attention to. I think we actually talked about it because we were like, why are they doing this again? The first one didn't work? The first one was iconic, but it didn't, like, dairy sales declined because they just have been declining. But I do truly think that this is just one iconic cultural signifier, the Godmill campaign, that they have access to because it's an industry that is just fully government subsidized.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Oh, right, right. wouldn't exist without subsidies. So they're basically clout chasing by being like, we're going to take this old brand and give Donald Trump a milk mustache, which people once liked, even though it's never a... Does Riley Gaines have a mustache? Will people cast doubt upon her gender and sex? Riley?
Starting point is 00:55:38 What's going on? You got a mustache, dude? A female, bro? With a milk one, though? Not okay. Oh, actually, no. It's in the shape of a Hitler mustache. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Okay. So, oh, that's what they did. That's the campaign. Everyone has a Hitler milk mustache now. I mean, the way that they've been just dog whistle slash train horning. Screaming into our faces. It feels pretty much like doing just a milk Hitler mustache at this point would be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah. Why wouldn't they? That's the thing, though, it's like, because they have to scream it now, it's just, it's not even having the same effect. People are just like, Jesus. Christ, man. What fuck is this shit? It's like only for people who have like collections of Nazi memorabilia at their house. Like that's who the audience is. They're the one.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So they're doing subtle things with the font here and like very, very obscure references. You've got maybe like 2,000 people in America doing the Leonardo Caprio and once upon a time in Hollywood thing. Oh, oh, oh, the screen. I know that. They put 14 there and 80s. They also tweeted out an illustration made to look like a photo of a laughably trim Donald Trump carrying milk bottles with the slogan, make whole milk great again. You know if he held two things like two fucking things of milk? Like what? He's got two six packs of like old school milk bottles in each hand. He would follow.
Starting point is 00:57:10 His balance would be, it would be so bad. He wouldn't be right again. I feel like he would be like. that would kill him. He would be Lucille 2 from Arrested Development, Liza Manelli. He'd never be able to get, regain his balance. Dude,
Starting point is 00:57:24 the vertigo. He would be irrevocably off balance for the rest of his life. Permanent vertigo from that, holding two things on each side. But I feel like this whole thing probably confused everyone who didn't get the Whole Milk Culture War memo. Right. So last week they signed a bill to put whole milk back on the manual in school
Starting point is 00:57:44 cafeterias, which overturned a 20, 2012 Obama administration policy that limited milk options in schools with the goal of lowering childhood obesity. And that was a great moment in the Oval Office, too, when they were signing this bill and talking about it because this asshole fell asleep again. Yeah. And all the wonderful men to the right, we worked so hard on this.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Peter Welsh, it is a bipartisan issue and understanding where we are in this country and how important the hell. He's out now. There's not even asleep. There was a little bit of daylight between the eyelids. USDA is posting two. He thinks he's slick. Like I think, I mean, you know, like when you're trying to act like, you got to be like,
Starting point is 00:58:26 let me get a little head nod in. So people just say, I'm resting my eyes. But really, I think it's in fight. Yeah, like I'm deep in thought, closing my eyes, nodding at what you're saying is how I'm sneaking it in. Sort of like Rick Rubin right now, just in the studio, just closing my eyes and just fucking feeling, trying to find the in-between. What you're saying?
Starting point is 00:58:44 No, I'm not asleep, man. No, I'm Rick Rubining it. Yeah. Just let me, I, I, it's actually helpful for me to lay down on a couch and listen to what you're saying with my eyes closed and a blankie. Brian pointed out a good thing is like, why are there young children near him? But also check this little girl out. She's like, looking at him being like, this asshole's stinky and asleep right now.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Like just watch this girl. She's look, she's clocking it. She's like, what the fuck? And then she's like, mommy. Looking at her mom. Like, what the fuck is this? It's like, it's okay. We'll be out of here.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The smell will go away. The smell will go away. both all the wonderful. Oh, God. Wait, so what's the deal? Wait, I got it. So this is the, as you pointed out,
Starting point is 00:59:23 there's a child who, like, looks concerned for him and, like, whether he's dying on her in front of her, looking at her mom, then looking back to the president, feeling like, what the fuck? Steak?
Starting point is 00:59:34 But this is also where he makes the, he pauses to make it clear that whole milk is spelled with a W. So it's in front of a child. As he's facing. pedophile allegations. He makes a whole milk joke. Like as if, wait,
Starting point is 00:59:52 like hole versus Courtney loves banned whole, H-O-L-E? Yeah. It's actually a legal definition, whole milk, and it's whole with a W for those of you that have a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Most of the media will get that. Oh my God. Most of the media will get that. What the fuck is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong? Dude. He's saying that was a child right next to him. That little girl is going to go, Mommy, what's whole milk?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Exactly. What was that whole milk shit about? Hey, Mommy, what was that whole? What was the president talking about when he made a reference to whole milk? It's not whole because we're from a dairy farm and I know that means all the fat, right? Just what comes out of the cow? What would whole milk be, Mommy? Like what kind of whole would milk come out of?
Starting point is 01:00:41 Like that? Hmm. I don't know. your asshole. I don't know what he meant. This guy's, he's gone with money. So this is all part of,
Starting point is 01:00:52 people are wondering where the fuck this is coming from because it's not, like it's just changing school cafeteria back to whole milk, fine, but they're like making it
Starting point is 01:01:03 this huge thing. They think that what might have happened is that RFK Jr. RFK Jr. is obsessed with raw milk. Right, right. I thought if anything, it'd be that. So they were going to try and do that
Starting point is 01:01:14 and then probably like the theory goes they were going to try and do that and then had to pivot at the last minute for legal reasons and they were like but we already have the posters and unfortunately we learned in the last minute that raw milk can kill you uh so we're gonna we're gonna just go with whole milk oh my god that's that's a theory because like otherwise it doesn't really make sense yeah yeah yeah no i mean it's it's so it's such a marginal thing and also like, I don't know, like was the thing before with Obama was like whole milk, there's too much fat.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Too much fat. There is like some debate in the scientific community over whether or not whole milk actually contributes to childhood obesity because both whole milk and lower fat options contain the same amount of essential nutrients like protein, calcium, potassium, and vitamin D. So like why would you have people drink whole milk? Did you hear that?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Did you hear that vitamin D? vitamin D is in the vitamin not the other thing that you sickos are thinking he nudges the seven-year-old girl next to him. But yeah, people are like,
Starting point is 01:02:25 this is maybe not the problem. I would just say, this is the thing that has always jumped out to me is kind of shocking that the only time the U.S. had a dip in heart disease. Like the U.S. has heart disease
Starting point is 01:02:39 as like one of the main killers and has for a long time. The only time that the U.S. had a dip and heart disease was when the U.S. rationed milk during World War II. And then, like, heart disease went down. And then they stopped rationing milk after World War II, and it went right back up. And that was at a time when everyone was just like, I drank three glasses of whole milk every day with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So is that a correlation?
Starting point is 01:03:05 It's just a thing. It's just a thing. Does that mean, like, butter? Does that mean, like, butter and she, like, everything downstream of milk would also be rashes? So it's like you're eating less butter, eating less cheese. Yeah, it's saturated fat, which has been shown to, you know, contribute to heart disease. But here's my problem. All that stuff makes the shit taste good.
Starting point is 01:03:25 So good. And also. Yeah, I mean, that's my thing also is like, I really wish it were true that whole milk was no worse for you than skin milk. Because eating a bowl of cereal with whole milk or skin milk is the difference between, like, dessert and breakfast. It's like eating a bowl of ice cream. man, that shit is so good. Wait, what is the fat content of American?
Starting point is 01:03:49 What do you think American whole milk is? Like the fat content? Like six, seven grams? It's percentage. It's three percent. Like three and a half, right? Yeah. Look, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:04:02 In Japan, we take it higher, baby. Oh, yeah. You know what I grew up drinking, eating with my cereal? 4.7. Wow. And that shit.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I'm just telling you, like, I do the reverse Ron Burgundy whenever I go visit my family in Tokyo. I go straight to the convenience store and I buy a thing of milk and I just pound it in the fucking street. And I go, milk was a good choice. Milk was a good choice for me. Because it's so fucking decadent. But also, my mom was always like,
Starting point is 01:04:33 you will not live long drinking this all the time. RFK Jr. is going to be reaching out, man. They're desperate. They're looking for any. Jesus Christ. Oh, so basically, you're cutting into you you sidestepped the raw milk fiasco but still found a way to probably just help the dairy industry who's yeah the dairy industry was not happy with the Obama thing because uh low fat milk doesn't taste as good and therefore a milk consumption declined when you're not getting the kids that's why yeah like no fair they're not even taste they're not even drinking the best tasting one that's why it went down not because of like literacy around our health
Starting point is 01:05:13 Yeah, also, whole milk is the most profitable product for dairy farmers because it's just like what comes out of the cow. Like they don't have to do too much to it where skin milk needs to be treated. Yeah, there's no, there's no stepping on it. Yeah, so yeah, y'all should be out here sniffing base like the rest of us. But so this whole plan of like putting kids back on whole milk was originally planned back in the spring. but RFK himself was like, I noticed that a lot of the people who came up with this plan
Starting point is 01:05:45 had financial relationships within the past three years with corporate entities that had a direct stake in the outcome of the guidelines. And then they, but that just meant they held it back for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:58 It didn't mean that they changed anything. My God. Also, this is going to shock you, Miles. Obsession with milk purity has a long and well-documented history, of being directly tied to white supremacy. The one, my favorite white drink is somehow. Actually, I feel like I remember.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Aren't there like always memes of these fuckers drinking milk and shit? Like the white power like okay finger thing. Yeah, and I think I've even heard them be like, we can digest dairy, you know, like as a bragging point. Yeah, yeah, of course. We all remember on the battlefield when they're like, they're making us drink milk. for this battle. We'll win it.
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