The Daily Zeitgeist - Millennials R Killers; Harvard? Nepotism?! 9.25.19

Episode Date: September 25, 2019

In episode 481, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Tiff Stevenson to discuss Fox News apologizing for guest calling Greta Thunberg 'mentally ill,' Trump admitting to the whole Ukraine scandal, a possible impeachment, millennials killing the Amtrak dining cart, Harvard's admission numbers based off of race, Gucci's Milan fashion show, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. A Fox News guest called Greta Thunberg ‘mentally ill.’ The network apologized for the ‘disgraceful’ comment.2. The GOP Knows Damn Well That Donald Trump Ordered That Code Red3. Seven freshman Democrats: These allegations are a threat to all we have sworn to protect4. Millennials and Amtrak Both Had a Grudge Against the Dining Car... but Who Killed It Off?5. 43 Percent of White Students Harvard Admits Are Legacies, Jocks, or the Kids of Donors and Faculty6. Before Sex, the Straitjacket?7. A Model Staged A Runway Protest Against Gucci's "Offensive" Use Of Straitjackets During A Fashion Show8. Gucci Model Talks About Transforming the Runway Into a Protest9. WATCH: Slum Village - Reunion (Ft. J Dilla)(Prod. By Black Milk) | Music Video Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just want to let you know we recorded this before Nancy Pelosi had officially announced that the Democrats were launching impeachment procedures. Nothing else really has changed. Nothing else really has changed. We basically believed that that was inevitable at the time, but we will be talking about something in the future tense that we would have been speaking about in the past tense. And, yeah, stay tuned tomorrow for more on this developing story. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 101, Episode 3 of DIRT DAILY SIGHTS, GUYS! A production of iHeartRadio.

This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck coke industries, and fuck off. Fuck off. Burping? I didn't think we'd make it to season 101.

It's Wednesday, September 25th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I co-founded Cracked and Aliens Are Real, courtesy of Trite Gang. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I've got E.D. and Jax O'Widdle. What the hell are those veneers? I'm dreaming of Royce hair. I'm dreaming of Royce hair.

That's Marco Royce, footballer from Borussia Dortmund. ED and Jackson Weirdo. Veneers, a reference to Jamie Loftus' obsession with identifying celebrity veneers. That, a.k.a., comes from Nathan Miller at Micropolitans. Yeah. Thank you. And the Jackson Weirdo part, an unfair attack on my character. Yeah.

yeah thank you and the jackson weirdo part a unfair attack on my character yeah uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented tiff stevenson welcome hey hey my voice didn't even come out then did you hear that i went yeah like i didn't even have the enthusiasm to cheer myself on. How British of me. Yeah, I was going to say. How have you been? Good. Yeah. I'm enjoying the sunshine. Yeah.

Been in town about a week now. It's going to be my birthday while I'm out here. So I'm looking forward to the surprise party. You'll have planned. And your birthday was, remind me again. The 29th of September. Yeah, the 29th of September. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So we will see you then, obviously. Apparently, they were saying that if you're born on the 26th of September. Yeah, the 29th of September. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So we will see you then, obviously.

Apparently, they were saying that if you're born on the 26th of September, that's because your parents boned on Boxing Day. Do you call it Boxing Day here, the day after Christmas Day? No, it's just Canada, I think, is the only North American country that recognizes Boxing Day. But this is the most you have in the region, the most common time to have a birthday right among the human species well i just had my birthday as well right and it's because it's the

mating season christmas is our mating season yeah well actually i think i was i was produced in festive gooch which is do you do you have the word gooch here uh it means something very different it means the bit between the balls and the... Oh, yeah. Fantastic. So festive gooch is the bit between Christmas and New Year. That's what I call it. I call it festive gooch. Let's take that.

Yeah, take that and run with it. America, download that one. Tucking that into my vocabulary. Holiday taint. Yeah, holitaint. Holitaint. Yeah. That's better.

I like holitaint. Celebrate the holotaints with your friends that is kind of the best time too where it's like well we're not taking the decorations down

because it's still the spirit and then you're looking forward to New Year's or Boxing Day football matches yes Boxing Day football matches

is that a thing oh yes yes yes and also they cram so many matches into that Christmas break too it's pretty amazing. Also, some might say unfair because other leagues in Europe

do take breaks during Christmas, and that might lead to better Champions League performance. But I don't know. Okay? I'm not a pundit. I just play one on a podcast. Throwing down some hot opinion there. Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's, you know,

I think most European footy fans would have agreed that if the Premier League had a break, we'd do much better. I don't know. Anyway. Liverpool just won, so it's all moot think most European footy fans would have agreed that if the Premier League had a break we'd do much better I don't know anyway Liverpool just won so it's all moot it is right Jack

I couldn't agree more we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment I saw some of your sports here by the way you saw some of my sports

well some of your country's sports I went to a Yankees game oh Yankees game in New York yeah it was really exciting when stuff happened yeah right your country sports. I went to a Yankees game. Oh, Yankees game. In New York?

Yeah, it was really exciting when stuff happened. Yeah, right. Which, very rare, but like there's five times. It was rained off for like a chunk of time. Oh, really? But I thought I would just

shout out things that I know from UK sports during the game. I thought that would make me really popular, like, score a goal. Exactly. Kick the ball. Yes.

Ref's a wanker. Exactly. That kind of thing classics exactly she fell over she fell over and you're like what yeah i i am like what uh we're going to first tell our listeners a couple of things uh it's it's great that our engineer is uh incredibly high today so this is yeah fun he's just a's just laughing uproariously. You know why? It's because he's watching Doughboy's video clips. Oh, is that what's going on?

Yeah, everything he engineers, he makes it a point to watch Doughboy's clips to be like, I like this podcast. Right, and so he can get a genuine reaction of enjoying a podcast while he's engineering ours. So it looks like he's engaged and having fun. He's taped an iPad in front of the monitor. He's like, oh, yeah, this is good stuff right here.

You said it, Nick. I mean, Jack. Mitch is, I mean, Miles is a real hoot. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Fox has had to apologize for only one of their super caddy surface level takedowns of a 16-year-old child. We're going to talk about that. Get a listen to some of those sick burns on Greta.

We're going to talk about Ukraine. We're going to talk a lot about Ukraine actually today. We might need to start mentioning Ukraine up top when we're talking about that we're taking a deep dive into America and Ukraine's national shared consciousness. But yeah, we're going to talk about the whistleblower story. The fact that it might be heading toward impeachment town. We're going to talk about millennials killing the Amtrak dining car. Affirmative action for rich white kids is a thing. We're going to talk about Gucci's latest fuck up.

Just one in a long series. You hate to see it. Hate to see I'm wearing one of the belts. Oh, no. That was bad timing. And then we're going to talk about Instagram. But first, Tiff, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

I just looked up creme de la mer. Creme de la mer. Yes. The skin cream? The skin cream. Of a horse? The sea, Jack. Oh, of the sea.

La mer. Cream of the sea. Oh, that sounds weird. Yeah, weird. Cream of the sea. Cream of the sea sounds like someone masturbating. That or like when you're by the shore and the waves are frothing. Yeah.

In my mind, I think that would be cream of the sea. Yeah. The white and the white caps. I instantly went sexual and gross. Right. Yeah. I mean, I was just trying to think of what that would look like. Yeah.

I prefer the foam. But yeah, it would equally be- Yeah, the foam. The foam is better. Let's just go there. Seacum. Seacum. Which is, I think we described oysters as being like the sea ejaculating in your mouth.

Oh, did we? Oh, maybe. The briny taste of an oyster. Anyway, we digress. So you're looking up creme de la mer. Creme de la mer. Side note, I do like to pee in the sea when I'm in it just to mark my territory. There you go.

I feel like other animals should know. Like this is my bit. So I was looking it up because it popped into my mind and ad popped up on my computer for it. I have used it. And then I had this kind of memory about a friend of mine, my friend Ash, about 10, 15 years ago. So I was looking up creme de la mer because I was looking up the current price. And I'm pretty sure when we were first talking about it, it was about 150 pounds pounds and i said to my friend ash this this cream is 150 pound because it's got seaweed in it and he went go swimming in the sea

you cunts oh it was his response to to people who spent 150 pounds yeah which is like what like around 190 almost yeah of our u.s dollars that's a lot. How big is it? Like a swimming pool worth of the creme de la mer? Or how much are we talking? I don't know. It's like a little tub, maybe a couple of hundred mils. Wow. You're making a slider sized hand gesture. Hockey puck even. Realizing that people can't

see what I'm doing. Yeah, hockey puck. So maybe a bit deeper. And I think it's more than 150 now. I think it's probably a couple of hundred. What is the secret of the sea exactly that makes it so indispensable? The seaweed, I think, has like massive healing properties. I mean, I think originally the cream was actually developed by a Swiss doctor

who was working on burns and developed it to work on people's skin who'd had like burns oh here we go enough of helping these poor victims i'm gonna become a billion usd for what size for a for what looks like a chapstick yeah a one ounce one ounce an ounce 180 an ounce how does that compare compare to street value of cocaine? Well, depends on where you get it. Right. But I wouldn't know. Yeah.

Allegedly. But for weed, that's, it's more expensive than weed. Well, depends on what state, again. It's about what's legal. Is it going to help your skin though? Weed, no. No. No, it will help your appetite and it will help your mouth get very dry.

Yeah. Yeah. Those are about the things. And you'll have a panic attack about maybe you know something that's meaningless uh but you guys moisturize uh i started uh my partner her majesty began telling me i should really give a fuck about my skin more because i was relying on my black and asian-ness to not have a routine aside from washing it and And she's like, you should use this. Use this after you wash. I'm like, what the fuck is this? So I'm not good at it, but I've been told I should start thinking about it.

Right. And I try to remember to use. You look super young, if that helps. Thank you. You know, it's this damn biracial shit going on. These damn perfect genetics. Damn parents of mine. Miles has incredible skin.

One time, actually, a celebrity makeup artist said I had great skin, and I used that to never moisturize my face again. I held on to that to be like, I don't think I need to do anything. I feel like I had a small skin victory this morning because I actually washed my face before putting on moisturizer, which I had been just putting moisturizer on without washing my face. My wife was like, what are you doing? And it did turn my face very greasy. Yeah, just on top of the morning.

Yeah. Yeah. Like you're already secreting oils as you sleep. Yeah. You want when you like wipe your face on something for that thing to immediately become see-through. Right. Exactly. Do the see-through test.

Yeah. I'm so pleased that I've got, I've come on and I've got guys talking about skincare. Yeah. Is that my dream? You have great skin, by the way. Thanks. You've got great skin. How many stages do you use for a white for an anglo how what do you say what do i use yeah how many stages of skincare are there oh i like i've i've i used to go to

sleep in my makeup all the time because i liked uh waking up looking fuck smudged as I described it but yes I used to but now as I've got a bit older I've decided that I should be like I'll just use a face wash or wipes to take it off at night and I turned 40 last year so I've started

throwing money at my face a bit more in terms of expensive creams. Does that work? I don't know it's more about it's more about the texture i suppose of the cream and stuff and how makeup sits on top of it and stuff like that but i just i never really used to use a separate eye cream which you know i got shouted at yeah i was like it's all skin isn't it it's all on my face yeah exactly that's what that's what i think i get hung up i'm like ain't it all the same thing right it's like oh no skin around your eyes is

very different so i think spf is probably the thing that i've been trying to do more more than anything else yeah protect it from the sun from the sun because i think that's the bigger that's the big aging yeah step one i'm sorry just going back to your friend's comment uh so in the queens would cunt be between like asshole and bitch? Somebody calling you that? Because I think if I called my friend bitch, it would still even like be a little bit more offensive than that sounded. Than cunt?

Yeah, then it sounded coming from her friend to her. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't to me calling me a cunt. It was just saying the people that buy it go swim in the sea, you cunts. Oh, got it. It's a plural c cunt like stop being dicks yeah um but also it is much more cunt is much more of a term of endearment in the uk than it is here i don't know whether we can keep these hard season you might have to edit them out right we do you know because it's a learning lesson yeah everyone involved yeah absolutely uh what is something you think is overrated oh overrated oh contrarianism cheap basic af contrarianism there you go i took a swear out for you guys

you know the piers morgans of the world the um the people who are sort of uh coming online and you know the katie hopkins these kind of people that do such, you know, they see what the general opinion is and what the decent way to be a human is and then they just come out against it for attention. So these aren't thoughtful positions. They're just basic contrarianism. It's the kind of stuff that Piers Morgan does all the time. And it's also we have a person called Julia Hartley Brewer in the UK

who tweeted a picture of greta thunberg um saying i've just booked a amazing holiday for me and my family flights to the beach at christmas and guess what greta i don't feel guilty about it at all and i maybe feel guilty about you know trolling an actual child but whatever i mean yeah they're they're putting themselves on the permanent record you know yeah the internet's written written in ink, so they can go out there and talk a big game, but they're going down on the record as not giving a shit about global warming. Being constrained is such a lazy way to enter a conversation or get the focus on yourself.

It's like, okay, I'll say something that doesn't need to be said. I'll say the worst thing't need to be said. I'll say the worst thing I can think of rather than being nuanced. Because nuance is difficult and a lot of people aren't capable of it. So if you're not capable of nuance, then shut the fuck up and let some people who are. But the problem is there's too much of a reward, I think, now for this type of behavior. And I'm noticing it in comedy in the UK as well.

Like, you know, just the more sort of alt-right contrarian you can be, the higher the prize, the more the reward. Because they're like, we need both sides. And you're like, what, you need another side to being a decent human? Because a lot of this isn't about sides. This is about questioning people's humanity. Right, right, right. Yeah, it's like, what's the counterpoint to being a kind person? Right.

We need more of that. What do you think is underrated? Aging. Aging. Oh, weirdly, as I've just talked about. From what standpoint? Well, I just, so I'm staying at my friend's and he has a roof pool. And I was up there the other day and I just sort of packed up my stuff and I was leaving.

And in came a woman who was so iconic. I would say she was like late 60s. Her body was incredible. The lips were, I'm going to say, you know, if I were to take a thing away, like a little bit overdone. But she was in full swimming costume. But she had like a spritzer in one hand, a wine spritzer. And she looked like she was dragging a case in.

I was like, oh, she's here with a case. And then it was only as I went past her, I realized that she had her Yorkshire Terrier in the case. And I was like, this is goals for me. This is that one day I want to get to my late 60s, be at a roof pool with my white wine spritzer and my tiny dog. Yorkshire Terrier in a rolling suitcase? Yeah, yeah.

Just like a carrier. I was hoping you were're gonna say the rolling thing was actually a cooler with more wine coolers inside or she's like no no no i'm not going anywhere i was just like so iconic and i think we often look at aging in such a negative way yeah but actually there's something to be said for like letting go of giving a shit about what other people think of just kind of like living your best life. And yeah, yeah.

I was just like, that is iconic. I want to be like that. That's my, you know, my goals or Dolly Parton. Right. Who just seems to be,

there was like a picture of her up on a website the other day. One of those awful, like I want to say like the daily mail sidebar. I don't know what the equivalent of it here would be. people, we also check out the daily Fail here for trash gossip. That's where our Ukraine adoption story comes from. Right.

So it was like that. And then it had a website called Cars and Yachts, it said underneath. And it said, click on this. This picture of Dolly Parton without makeup will make you want to skip lunch. And I was like, no, that won't make me want to skip lunch. It'll make me want to buy lunch that I paid for myself. Which money I've made from working hard, living my dream like Dolly.

And my salad dressing will be the male tears of men who are upset that Dolly has a bigger yacht and car than they do. Well, I think, and also, especially those weird clickbait things that are always being served in the bottom of every website. It's always just some nonsense, salacious garbage that is never actually what it says it is right like you know it may just

be a photo where it was like her younger like looking different they're like anyway you clicked sorry we got the ad we got the click we got the you had the temerity to age and keep living right yeah but to me so that i was like actually I think she's better than she's ever been she's like had this amazing career and she continues yeah she continues to do

great stuff and not give a shit what people think that's why I just think aging and I think all parts of

culture are starting to like kind of come around to her being a national treasure like just

every like it's not just you know people from tennessee anymore i think everybody everyone i think everyone knows dolly's uh she's dolly she's the best she's our dolly um and yeah there have been psychological studies that say that people generally like get happier and happier as they age um is that as they realize they let go of all the bullshit they thought was significant for their youth? Yeah, I mean, you just learn, because you're a learning organism, like as a human being, you get better at doing life unless, you know, unless you don't, in which case you might not

make it long enough to get happier and happier as you age. I think there's a point, and I think that probably happens in your 30s, I think for me it was, where there's a change. It used to be when I was younger, I was obsessed with what everyone else thought about me, and now I just, what do I think? Right. Well, yeah, all that validation has to come internally first, right?

Yeah. Yeah, because if you seek it externally, it'll be fleeting. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know to be false? That cues are good. Cues.

A cueing. As a letter to ours? Yeah, so this is like in America, if I see a cue for somewhere. A line. A line, yeah, you call it a line, right? So if you see a line, you're like, that thing is good, that thing is great.

Typically. That means that's happening. Yeah, that means there's good times ahead. Or usually or something very hyped yeah right so but if you see a queue in the uk or a line in the uk it's normally because the service is bad oh really yeah oh the assumption is like oh they're upside down in that kitchen or something right yeah it just means that they haven't got their shit together and now we're waiting ages so if you see a queue your first assumption is like yeah i swerve it i don't think oh that looks so amazing right so papa's strategy of just not having very

many chicken sandwiches uh would not have worked in the uk no they would have just been like well that's stupid of you when are those coming back by by the way, October? October, maybe, like a few limited run of sandwiches until they can get their supply chain together. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, Donna Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.

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where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what

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Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark

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And Fox, speaking of people having problematic takes when it comes to global warming and Greta Thunberg, so a right-wing podcast host came on Fox News and called her a mentally ill 16-year-old. And Fox was like, we apologize. We would never say something rude about her. We would never say something rude about her we would never say something rude about a white person

I feel like what the real take was meanwhile we played you a clip on yesterday's episode there was a dude on Fox and Friends who said she's a fear monger who's giving children around the world anxiety disorders there was also one of the gemstones

in their gauntlet Laura Ingram called her creepy and compared her to children of the corn. So basically like making fun of her manner of speaking because she's like all very, it's just all very like surface level, like catty shit. It doesn't even make sense. To be making fun of a child about. But that's the, but those are like the that's where we're at right they can't argue the facts that are in front of them that this is an issue so it's like well we're gonna lose that argument yeah so let's just be let's just be even more fucking fucked up and just be like what about her though huh yeah it's the complete role reversal

though isn't it she's behaving like an adult and they're all behaving right like absolute children yeah someone tweeted recently too is like it's really interesting to see critics be like look at this child like whining and stuff like that are the same people who are saying like brett kavanaugh's blowout during his confirmation was righteous indignation of course and it's like what really because this person wasn't even yelling and that's what i'm going as for halloween by the way i'm going dressed as a teenage girl who wants to save the world. Apparently that's terrifying. Yeah. Running my own haunted house. Kill it, destroy it. I mean, I feel like short, can these people go to bed at night and put their head on the pillow and feel okay about doing this? They can. Because I'm sure like anything, right? It's like people who pivot

to audience to audience because their bottom line is the affection or the attention it's not about what's good or nourishing yeah they're in it for money publicity and that's it that's why because you've never i've never seen people really show any kind of uh any sort of virtue right anyway yeah and so they also assume everybody else is in it for that. They're like, Oh, come on. Like you are in it.

But yeah, it's funny to hear Fox news call anyone a fear monger. Right. When that is like their game. It's, it really is like the, in people's history of the United States, they write about how the U SS. Department of Defense changed its name from War Department to Department of Defense right at the very moment that they started waging offensive wars.

Right. of what you're actually doing because you're trying, like it's a good way of if you're dealing with people who are this full of shit, just see what they're saying and that can tell you exactly what they're actually doing. That's an incredible book, by the way. Can I just big up? Is it Zimmerman? Zimmerman. Yeah, Zinn.

Oh, Howard Zinn. Howard Zinn. I call him Zimmerman for short. The Zinn man. The Zinn man. Headed to Oz with the Zinn man. I now need to reread it actually because that's, I imagine it's pretty pertinent for the stuff that's happening at the moment. Well, George Carlin said that as well, didn't he?

He had a great routine about how the meanings of words change, you know, how what eventually was like shell shock became PTSD, became these ways of sweetening. Right. Right. Words and meanings so that they lose the kind of impact when you're talking about war or when you're talking about devastation to say things like rather than go um you know oh we don't say third world anymore we say developing nation but then you know if you talk about poverty and and you use the hard P and you say poor, that really forces people

to think about it rather than making it. It's developing. It's developing, yeah. Like a Polaroid. Yeah. And eventually you'll see an image of a starving child.

Yeah. It's having a glow up. Right, exactly. They're just in the middle of a glow up. A little glow up. You know, it's a little awkward right now,

but eventually they'll glow up to second world. I don't know. But yeah, a lot of those things do mitigate sort of the impact of what they intended. In fact, third world countries started as just a way of describing any country that was not either part of the U.S. sort of system of influence or the USSR. Like USSR was second world.

We were first world. And then any country. Bonus countries. You can influence. Any country that could still be influenced was still up for grabs. It was considered third world, and then it eventually became a way of describing developing nations. All right, let's talk about the scandal with Trump, the whistleblower, the Ukraine. It'll never end. It always gets...

I mean, there was nothing new so far. I mean, because amazingly, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump have admitted to everything. They just keep admitting. They just keep saying that they did. Yeah, he admitted he called the president of Ukraine. He admitted that it was about Joe Biden. He admitted that he was withholding the military aid. Yeah. So there's no mystery here aside from what the actual whistleblower complaint says.

Right. And again, when you look at just sort of the timeline of events, it's clear that anyone who was in Trump's orbit knew there was a whistleblower complaint around early September. Right. And I think, and there are many people online who are sort of thinking, well, based on everything you're seeing, right?

Cause the funds were being helped withheld even before that phone call took place. And there was a bipartisan group of Senator or Congress people who were like, what's going on with this money that we allocated as Congress to aid, like what's going on with that? Mick Mulvaney said it was, the funds had to be frozen over concerns, quote unquote, that the president had, but could not elaborate. So that was already stinking like shit.

And then you have Rudy Giuliani constantly going, I'm like, I'm going to Ukraine. You know, Biden's doing this thing. Trump isn't doing stuff with Ukraine. known for the very like for the all the sycophants that are trump's main defenders in the senate in the house that this was coming which is probably why on september 11th they finally released the funds um and then a week later then we start hearing that there's a whistleblower complaint so it's it's really timed with september 11th in the hope that no one would notice with all of the other september 11 no i think it just happened it just happened to be the date where they they attached it to a different spending bill so it had to get so the money had to move um and i think that was mostly because i think if the republicans in the

senate and house are sort of like if it comes out that the money is still being withheld and there's a whistleblower complaint it's completely fucked it like, if we're going to do anything, maybe this is our only shot. But now you still have people like John Cornyn saying like, huh, what you, what'd you say? Tramp in a new crane? I don't know. No, no, no. I don't know. I've never heard anything about this.

Right. Or saying it's rumors. That's just all bullshit. And it's just, it's really starting to stink because now you're, I'm sure there are many, like everything, there's always people involved in the cover-up. But like the number of people who are probably in the Senate Intelligence Committee or House Intelligence Committee on the right must have known something. And it's just starting to look darker and darker. And the cover-up is starting to, you know, fizzle out a bit.

Yeah. So, I mean. The foundation is slipping. A bit. Yeah. bit yeah so the foundation is slipping a bit yeah i mean at least with this right because this is different you know with the muller report it was easy to you know spin all this shit about it and be like ah to steal there were too many things they could use to distract people this is so different yeah well i mean he wasn't president during the muller like the events that were being

muller uh and now this is directly about somebody using the power of the presidency Mueller, like the events that were being investigated by Mueller. And now this is directly about somebody using the power of the presidency for their own corrupt political gain. And yeah, it's also just, it's being investigated right after it happened. It's very, it's like, whereas with the Mueller report and, you know, the Mueller investigation, there were, you know, thousands and I think they like turned over millions of pages of documents. Like there was just so much stuff. This is just a very clear cut, you know, this is him doing what we've always known he was doing, what other people might have suspected he was doing, just in a very focused, clear way. Yeah. Well, I think now that we have more moderates moving into the impeachment column, it seems like now Nancy Pelosi can finally do something? can finally do something?

Yeah, it seems like they're moving in the impeachment direction, the direction of at least starting the process of impeachment. Yesterday morning, if you checked Drudge, they had the spinning siren, which he usually reserves for huge news stories, and it said impeachment. So it seems like he at least thinks the signs are pointing in that direction. And there was a meeting yesterday with Pelosi and who was it?

The entire Democratic caucus. The entire Democratic caucus. Just to be like, all right, what's the game plan here? And we'll see what happens. I'm not sure what has happened. We don't know what has come out of that meeting yet. I'm sure people do by now. But I think the one thing to look at, though, is like there's some,

you know, many people were wondering why Nancy Pelosi was waiting for so long. Was it one theory was like she's just trying to slow cook Trump out of office. Other people was like, you know, maybe it's a Tip O'Neill type deal where he knew from the beginning he's like, this is going to lead to impeachment, but we'll just let everything fall apart. And then people will be more compelled to do this, which I think maybe is what's going on. Or maybe she was just so shook at the idea that a botched impeachment attempt would lead to losing the majority in the house. And a lot of these freshmen Congress people who just flip districts would just be ousted. But now many things have changed. Again, there's no mystery around this scandal. Everyone is admitting basically to what had happened. And the seven freshmen, there are seven freshmen from swing districts, which are the ones that were primarily Republican

districts that went blue. Seven of them who have national security clearances penned an op-ed that were like, these are impeachable offenses. And that's what's different because the people Nancy Pelosi was worried about, a lot of these freshmen are out here now saying, no, this is bullshit. This is impeachable. These are the people she was supposedly holding back because of. Right. And I think now though, too, because these are the people with national security clearances, maybe they feel that this specific event is so clear that it'll be very easy for them to explain even to their constituents who are like, you're just some Pelosi fucking whatever. It's like, no, I was in the fucking Navy.

I understand national security. I took a fucking oath to protect the country from enemies, foreign and domestic. I'm saying what this what happened here is unacceptable like having a president blackmail another world leader for their own partisan gain is an absolute abuse of power no matter how you cut it yeah do you feel like this is the thing that will tip it over though because i feel like you keep thinking it will happen and you're like surely this is impeachable and then nothing's he's like Teflon. Right. Yeah. I mean, you know, if we it seems like the House can get the votes eventually to move impeachment proceedings forward. It's the when it goes to the Senate and becomes a trial is where it gets a little sketchy because the numbers aren't there. Unless Republican.

Yeah. Unless they find their spine. But again, I think part of this process, too, will be to get as much of this information out and make that position of defending the president untenable. But I don't know if that's – That Watergate moment, I guess, where Republicans say that they can't in all good consciousness side with – Yeah. You need that moment that they had with Nixon. Yeah.

Whether it's in terms of careerism or whether it's in terms of consciousness. Timing is interesting because like by the time, if it does get to the Senate, like that'll be like with too little time for them to put a different candidate up. Won't it? Like, I mean, when would,

what would be the absolute last drop dead date for them to like start thinking about, okay, maybe we run, uh, you know, who, what's the,

Oh, like if he's impeached, so Mike Pence. If it's like bending in that direction as the election's approaching, like what would their political calculations be? I'm not sure what the mechanics would be of like. Is it unprecedented? Unprecedented. Unprecedented.

I'm sure somewhere in history there's been shit like this that I can't really recall. Well, I mean, Nixon was a lame duck. Like he was in his second term when all this shit went down. And he had won in a – Landslide. Unprecedented landslide. So it was like they really had to bring some evidence to get people on board. I think the problem is, right, the Republicans have embraced Trump to the point where they have already been poisoned by his radioactivity.

Yeah. And to then turn against him, like, because already the Republicans are facing an existential threat, like, as a party. Yeah. Where younger people are more and more not convinced that conservative politics aligns with their own values. So they're having trouble bringing in new people to then be like, oh yeah, this guy was a massive fuck up would be like, what happened?

Like, where was your leadership? Right. So I don't know why I'm even asking the question of like, there's no way the Republicans are going to like abandon Trump. But again, I guess that's the thing. Maybe they could have a come to Jesus moment.

And if, if they want to move forward, you would have to say something like we were completely right. We up yeah we fucked up this is actually wrong i'm sorry now we're saying something and i'm sorry all this shit happened we really fucked up and then they'll probably all get voted out for admit i don't know it's a it's a it's not an enviable position which is why so many people are just fucking off out the back door right and not not running again they're just like retiring yeah it does seem like it would be catastrophic for the Republican Party, at least. I mean, it seems like this whole Trump, the rise of Trump has been catastrophic for them.

But, you know, I also don't think that he's going to go without a fight. I don't think it'll be so easy that they just get republicans on board uh one thing that does seem to be developing is that biden's take on all this since he is at the center of trump's reason for uh abusing his power uh is kind of interesting because he's like taking this as his opportunity to like take center stage and he's like well the reason they're mad is because they know i'll beat him like a drum and so i do think if he does become the nominee there will then be this like both sides ism where they'll be like it'll just be the republicans will have to make a case that there was some something that needed to be investigated about

hunter biden's position on the that gas company right which it's shady as fuck i mean it's oh absolutely i mean it smacks of the kind of thing that like children of geopolitical players like can just fall ass backwards into it's like oh like, oh, you're on the board of Ukraine? Okay, interesting, because you're so into gas. Yeah, I mean, the only thing he had experience with was getting fucked up and trying to get sober. So he had no experience with gas. He did have experience with gas, but just not that gas. Right, yeah, exactly.

That loud, huh? That loud. That gasolina, as they say. I mean, even when the sort of rumors about this sort of scandal came out like months ago, I was like, yeah, figure that out because I would love to find a reason to disqualify Joe Biden from running. Like just objectively be like, yeah, this guy's self-dealing with his kids. I mean, so as a president, that's the problem, though. If they go head to head, it's going to completely obscure what this election's about.

It's going to be like, which fucking asshole do you like better or worse? Because they're both going to be like, well, you did that. Well, you did that. Versus getting some other candidates like a Bernie or Elizabeth Warren, who's not going to be, there's not going to be this whole like, well, they're in bed with the fucking whoever the fucks. Those criticisms, you can sort of, or at least if you're a hyper partisan Republican, you're going to be like, yeah, man, well, that Ukraine deal is going to be the same shit like the Uranium One thing with fucking Hillary Clinton.

Right, exactly. To be clear, like Uranium One, there is like people who have actually investigated this say that like Biden did nothing improper. Like his son was probably taking advantage of his father's position in office. But when Biden like had this guy fired, it was like after that would have been a relevant move. Right. And like relevant to his timeline just doesn't add up. Like the this this case was dropped before Biden even said anything publicly about this prosecutor. So you can't say that that was there's no cause and effect there. Right. this prosecutor so you can't say that that was there's no cause and effect there right but hey it's difficult isn't it because during the debates and stuff people have been talking about

the uh candidates holding back on each other but you can kind of see why that's necessary because otherwise it's always exploited by the republicans yeah but they're gonna exploit it one way or another yeah either way and i think but yeah slowly the debates are going to start moving in that direction as bernie is going to, you know, everyone's confusing him and Elizabeth Warren for their policies being the same, even though there are huge differences. I mean, Bernie today was just sort of like, I think billionaires shouldn't exist. So I'm about to take a big ass bite out of that fucking account if I'm president. OK, I'll fuck with that. But I think so there's that brewing, then there's Biden who's probably going to have to start punching around because Elizabeth Warren is now in a statistical tie with him in the Iowa voting polls.

So yeah, I'm not sure when it's maybe the next debate. We'll see a little bit of handbags as it were. Yeah. But the one thing that's clear is if it is, if Biden does end up being the nominee, the Republican Party and Trump will be beating that story like a drum. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about how the millennials killed the Amtrak dining car.

Yeah. So time for my generation to seawalk all over another grave. Yeah. We've done it, millennials. Hell yeah. This time we killed the Amtrak dining car. No! Now, for those of you who are not familiar with the Amtrak dining car, it was-

Like most of the country. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, our parents know. Right. Our grandparents know. Because they weren't serving avocado. Because I know what you guys are like. Yeah.

The avocado. Where's the avocado? Burn the fucking thing down. You know, who would have thought that the most broke generation might not be into the white tablecloth service of an Amtrak dining car when you're on a train? But again, what's interesting about this is that the whole millennial angle came from the person at Amtrak who was indirectly in charge for the health of this car. Right. So this guy named Peter Willender said, some people really liked the dining car

and viewed it as sort of a nostalgic train experience. Pivot to some people, especially our new millennial customers, don't like it so much. They want more privacy. They don't want to feel uncomfortable sitting next to people. Okay.

That's through all of your analysis. That's what it was? Yeah. So will people not be able to buy food on trains? Oh, come on. This is America, baby. They're going to sell you whatever the fuck they can. What's funny is the move that they're doing is actually saving the company money.

Right. Because what they'll do is basically make it like a pre-order system. Right. Where before you get on the train, you say, I would like microwaved to hell pasta. Right. And then you can pick it up and eat it uh shamefully at your seat yeah so is this like a first class dining thing in the amtrak no like anyone can you can access it oh okay yeah no matter where there was a part of the plane

where you could get your plane food and like sit with other plane passengers but it's like that level of like uh culinary excellence is plain food it's plain food right yeah yeah so it's not good eat this food miserably on your own in your car or your room or feel like you're in the with strangers yeah like orient express nostalgia because if it was like an upgrade it would be different because we have that on the we have the um i get on the the night train the the overnight trains. God, what are they called? Why can't I think of the name of them?

To Scotland and back. Used to be the GNER. The sleeper trains. Ah, sleeper. Get the sleeper trains. You get like a little berth to yourself. But then there's also a dining car that you can go out into and you can have whiskey and it's got a bar and you can have. Yeah.

And so people are a bit more sociable in that. Yeah, that's the same. It's the same kind of thing, but it is. Is there a bar on the Amtrak? Well, you can buy like little bottles of liquor there. I've definitely gotten drunk

in my share of dining cars. Feeling like a giant with your tiny. Yeah, exactly. You're like, uh-oh, what's happening to me? Three, five, four. Uh-oh.

It's like, no, sir, you've had your ninth little whiskey bottle. So it's a similar thing then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same deal. But, yeah, yeah. But I think, you know, I don't know.

I like the idea of the dining car, but I think ultimately when you're on a train, it's like, I'll just sit here. I'm so used to like plane travel or something else.

Right. Everything's done at my seat. Yeah. But, you know, RIP. I mean, instead of having drinks with people, they're having drinks

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But for rich white kids, we mentioned this a little bit in the past that college sports, we think of college basketball, college football, because those are watchable, but there's all these other, like most college sports at any given college are sports like lacrosse and rowing and other things that you have to have a lot of money to do, to play. And so it ends up being a, somebody described it as affirmative action for rich white kids. Oh, by playing one of these like non big three type sports.

Yeah, exactly. Right, by playing one of these non-Big Three type sports? Yeah, exactly. Right, right, right. Yeah. And it's also not super competitive. It's just like you go to a prep school in the Northeast where this sport is actually played. Sick at the regatta, dude. Squash. Yeah.

Sailing and squash were easy ways that people used. There's collegiate squash? Yeah, I believe. I love squash. You do love a game of squash. Yeah. It's basically like racquetball with a deader ball, I believe. You mean less bounce, less reactive?

Yeah, less bounce. Like deader. It's like a popped racquetball. We don't really do racquetball in the UK, but we do squash. Do you? Yeah. Makes sense. But there's lots of posh,, posh, fancy schools there.

So I didn't know that's where it came from. I feel like I'm really subverting it being a working class state school girl playing squash. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's like the number one street sport in the UK is squash. It's like, what's up, man? Yeah. Yeah.

You go to any council housing, you'll see it. Yeah. Just wild squash games happening. You can hang out on my block, but you got to play me for it. Whoa. And it's a game of squash. Anyways, so because Harvard was sued over their admissions policies, we got a peek into their numbers and it's pretty shocking. Yeah. A lot of the data came out as evidence because this woman said the admissions process was

unfairly discriminating against Asian applicants. That's right. And so Harvard, they're like, okay, well, we need to see the data so we can begin to kind of assess this. The data became public, but unrelated to that, these researchers started combing through the data. And wow, there is a, I mean, I don't know if you'll believe this about Harvard University, Wow. There is a I mean, I don't know if you'll believe this about Harvard University, but I just from what they found from 2009 until 2014, they found that 43 percent of the Caucasian applicants accepted at Harvard were either athletes, legacies, meaning their parents had gone there or children of donors and faculty.

Only about a quarter of those students would have been accepted to the school without those admission advantages yeah so is that legal yeah okay because i know there's been this whole obviously there's been this whole admission scandal sort of thing the problem yeah so what those people did was pay somebody to change the scores to change the scores or to bribe people to pretend like there was a tiny bit of artifice, whereas this is just how America works. Yeah, this is just like the networking. Right. Their grandparents paid somebody a long time ago. I mean, that's the same as, you know, that's why before we started the podcast, I was sort of saying in the UK, if you fail, if you're a posh white man and you fail you just fail upwards relentlessly into your prime minister right so yeah so so that's the same

there i mean if you like eaton has that and you know george w bush was kicked out of the white house for being too drunk one time and like that that is something that would be life-defining for most people uh for him it was like a bump in the road that let him know it was time to turn it around and, you know, become president. Yeah. When you look at sort of the mix too, like at first I was like, well, surely this doesn't just apply to the Caucasian students. This like being a legacy or faculty or donor, right? Like that should be everyone if you're giving money or legacy okay well so if you break it down again into like four racial categories 27 percent of white students were likely to be

legacies only 5.8 percent for black students 9.5 for hispanic and 11.0 for asian students so at best it's over twice as much as the closest group. So that's families, families who went to Harvard. Yeah, right. But they also include like the dean's interest list or people who are children of faculty. Yeah, there's like all sorts of ways they find to let people in who they're essentially doing a favor for like their parents or something. essentially doing a favor for like their parents or something there's uh one thing that you can do where like a student can apply but then take a year off so they become like part of the next year's class i think we talked about um and it's just i don't know i don't for whatever reason that makes it easier for you to get in but i know kids who did that to specifically go to harvard um say you're super talented how

many scholarships are there now for like are they that are not sports-based say you're super super clever and you come from projects or social housing or like and you scored off the charts on your sats that's what you call them here right what are the chances of you then getting into somewhere like harvard i mean if your scores are good, there's definitely a chance. I think at that point, it's then about how you come up with the money for tuition. And some people might get an academic scholarship. They might get it from outside groups that they can apply to to get a lot of their tuition paid for.

But it's not, I mean, it's hard to, it'd be hard to say that Harvard's admissions process is meritocratic in any way. Right. It really seems like this puts a lie to the idea that they're having to bend over backwards to let in, you know, people who are from a different class or people who are, you know, not, who are from disadvantaged backgrounds. It seems more like they're bending over backwards to let in the children of people who they know. Right. Average white, average white dudes.

Yeah, average white dudes. Like all those average, like a third, essentially what this means is a third of Harvard's Caucasian students don't deserve to be there. And so in place of that third, you put like people who, despite like, who, despite having gone to not prep schools,

they went to public schools, God forbid, they get into Harvard instead of that third. We have a better country in general. I was going to say, isn't that better for everyone? You're putting the bright sparks and the brains and the smart people, the talented people in general. I was going to say, isn't that better for everyone? You're putting the bright sparks and the brains and the smart people or the talented people in here. And more diverse mix of people from different social backgrounds.

And I think that's the thing, because they do point out that even if you took away all those advantages for those certain things, like legacy students, faculty, kids of faculty or whatever, it wouldn't change the amount of Caucas caucasian students that were admitted but it would create a much more economically diverse class right and i think that's the thing is like you go to harvard and if you go to harvard business school like

you're just in like predatory capitalism shark school right uh and you're not and you're meeting other people who are like being like yeah man we're just gonna fucking make a ton of money and right whatever yeah you're joining a club that has access to insane amounts of power and i mean uh in addition for to it just being easier because they're friends with the parents of these kids it's hard not to think that there's some design some overall design to this that like you don't let the poor kids in because the poor kids then might like have a lot of power and start giving money back to other poor people instead of you know playing by the rules yeah the social dynamics and yes the hierarchical structures that exist i mean it's wild to me that there is an interview portion of the admissions process where they're like, okay, but what is their socialization like? Do they know how to act?

Right. It's more just like, well, they're polished to know how to do a given interview. You have test scores, you have your application essays, you have your grades, and then you have your grades and then you have an interview where previous graduates sit down and like look you over and decide how they feel about you right what you're wearing how you sit exactly the question should be like you're in a life raft and there are two people in the water right one is an elderly billionaire who's lived a full life he's 97 years old and he says he promises to make you wealthy beyond your wildest dreams if you just pull him into the boat.

There's only room for one person. The other person is a disadvantaged asylum seeker from a country where they're fleeing persecution. Who do you pull into the boat?

What do you do? The billionaire. Okay, great. Welcome to Harvard. Yeah. You got it. Let's talk about Gucci. What's Gucci?

Gucci. What's Gucci, man? What's Gucci, my dude? I'm wearing the Gucci belt. This is upsetting. I wear it on stage because it's the double Gs I want people looking at. Yeah. I have big boobs.

Let's just lazz them over here. Also, if I mention it on stage, it is tax deductible so there you go being able to to do that or on this podcast i'm sure it's but have they gone and got themselves into they just seem to be uh whose line is it uh oh charlie murphy as charlie murphy puts it perpetual line steppers they they just really like to piss people off and then apologize, then piss people off, then apologize. So at Milan's Fashion Week, it ended with a big show from Gucci that opened with a bunch of models on one of those moving walkways,

and they were all in white, basically, it looked like straight jackets, like what you would see people wearing in a mental health institution. And one of the models happened to have some experience with this and be an artist artist with some backbone uh modeled by the name of ayesha tan jones they wrote a message on their hands reading mental health is not a fashion and rode the moving walkway out with that showing to the cameras and to the audience so they were it was basically a protest in the middle of the show which is a bad look for Gucci. Well, then even weird too, because like that was just part of like the intro to throw the audience off.

Right. Because they're like, what is with all this like monotone shit? Like this is not a Gucci show. And then the lights changed and then they fucking did the real fashion show as like some really odd commentary. What is it about like fucking society or some shit?

Well, yeah, their idea was that this was meant to contrast their actual fall line because that had color. So this was the man trying to hold you down, the straight jackets, and the their actual fall line was like bringing color to the landscape because it was the straight jackets were meant to represent according to gucci in a statement said the most extreme version of a uniform dictated by society so uh that gucci has apologized and said, we're sorry about this. They don't use straitjackets, by the way.

I feel like they were more like of an asylum Victorian kind of. Yeah, I feel like it's more branding. It's more like of an icon of, you know, mental health, the mental health apparatus than it is something that's actually used anymore. But I actually don't know oh i'd imagine i i'd imagine they would there would be some form of restraint in a like in a facility like that but yeah again i think this was more to just say like this is why gucci's fucking tight right okay well they're what society's trying to restrict you we're trying to

do like we're trying to free you problematic fashion we're trying to restrict you. We're trying to do like. We're trying to free you. Problematic fashion. We're trying to free you and it'll cost you $3,000. Right, right. For this red jacket. We'll sell an $1,100 turban to you. I like it when fashion just puts out like nice looking stuff without trying to do a mess. Politics and fashion do not mix. Stop trying to do. It always ends badly.

It's like the Black Lives matter t-shirts that were like they're made by like in a sweatshop wasn't it someone like target or something you're like oh these things don't yeah well i think yeah what we've also seen like even last week i think there was that stupid design company fashion line that was doing like uh school shooting hoodies yeah that was just the name of high schools and schools that had been you know had uh had mass shootings occur and they were like yeah it has bullet holes in it because it's like you know we're trying to like start a conversation yeah stop trying to affect wokeness when actually right you're just trying to chill

product yeah exactly like and no one has a put like i just don't think the two things i don't know it's like pride cups from coffee shops that do zero hour contracts right right it's like all of that kind of thing it's like corporations trying to be like look how we are yeah it'd be better if you just put the clothes out that you want to sell for them and go ah it's colors you're right pretty does that make sense rather than trying to say and with this it was just like a dumb it was like a stupid idea to try and like it wasn't even the clothes weren't even the problem here it was like this weird message they were trying to set up that they completely fucked up and just came off completely wrong and offended the models that were like working the show yeah and apparently they were even talking amongst

themselves like is this are we good with this well lagerfeld did it lager carl lagerfeld did it uh i forgot about this when he was at chanel and was celebrated like he was the most amazing person when he died and you're like carl lagerfeld was pretty much a piece of shit he said a lot of fucked up shit yeah but he had models go down the wrong runway wearing suffragette sashes and like feminism and placards and i was like you're the person who said adele was too fat for fashion like you cannot now say i'm a feminist you know like it just it's it's such bullshit hypocrisy just do the bit that you're meant to do which is design the clothes and the people who've got the money can pay for them be ethical with how you make them right and then shut up like shut up just stop does that make sense or do you think brands need to have this i know i mean i think if it makes sense for you to

be maybe on a certain side of a political issue like nike might or whatever i understand that but they're not they're not like i don't know the to try and profit off of like you know we've talked about like during pride we were talking specifically about a lot of people like even campaign candidates selling this pride stuff when they voted against it yeah or that they just or that none of the money was actually going to an organization it was just pride merch to put in their own coffers for their campaigns and sort of like well what is this i mean yeah i't think, especially like luxury fashion brands, already we're dealing with something that I don't know where their place is

in the social justice movement. Yes. So, yeah, I think it's good for Alessandro Michele or whatever, who's the creative designer, to fucking, to do some. To get his name. To wake the fuck up more in the sense of like, think about what you're even doing. Like, I know you think it's edgy, but because you're completely removed from like the nuance and like what these garments are communicating to other

people that you've completely, you've done actually the opposite of what you even wanted to do. And I said that Alessandro Michele had, or however you pronounce it, had apologized. That isn't true. They haven't apologized yet. But this isn't the first time that Gucci has gotten in some controversial water. Back in February, they made a $1,000 sweater that when you pulled the turtleneck up had a blackface mouth on it. It was like a black sweater with big red lips around a hole for your mouth.

I mean, what he did say was it was never intended to be racist. Right. Okay. And in a letter to employees after the sweater fiasco, McKellie said he was truly committed to in facing what happened as a crucial learning moment for everybody but literally just a couple months later they had a what was essentially a

turban uh on like a white model during one of their fashion shows that also cost around a thousand dollars oh on a male model yeah on a male model right yeah so definitely a Sikh yeah that's a Sikh turban yeah not like because you know women went through a phase of what you know like slightly smaller sure you think of the Hollywood phase of like yeah that is like that is a very specific that's a Sikh turban right and they were even coming out being like um it may be fashion, but it's also a sacred religious garment. Right, and McKellie, again, apologized saying, we will learn a lesson and this company will do things in a different way

and cut to this year's fashion week and this straight jacket thing. So really this guy just seems kind of like an insincere dick. Yeah. Or just someone who thinks because he's doing fashion, it's like, well, you can't look at it with these other, you know,

like I look at it through a different lens because I'm, I'm presenting something different. I think that's always like the, the mentality of like why they can even allow themselves to enter that world of thinking, or he could just be straight up racist and he thinks it's just funny but i think the other thing too is sometimes artists want to take themselves too seriously and be like this isn't about that okay you're missing the point if you're just looking at this merely as a turban right okay

it's something forward thinking yes but you know guccian guccian, Tiff, it's been a pleasure having you once again on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, see you, follow you? You can see me. I've done my shows. I'm out here now. I might be doing one more, The Lyric Hyperion, in November. So if you're around in LA, come catch that. Otherwise, on Twitter, at Tiff Steven Otherwise on Twitter at Tiff Stevenson,

Instagram, Tiff Stevenson comic, and my website, tiffstevenson.co.uk. And on Hulu at the moment in Game Face. Yeah. Second series is out. So catch me in that.

And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yes. Hold on. Let me just go through my phone to find, um, actually it was about this when you were talking about admissions in Harvard and stuff. A friend of mine who's a comedian in the UK, Katie Mulgrew, did a tweet to say, lads, if we close private schools, where will we find all the comedians and actors? where will we find all the comedians and actors? So, yeah, we are in a bit of a phase where, you know, it's seemingly impossible to break into performance and any of that kind of stuff as a working class person.

What you call blue collar here, I guess? Is that the same? Yeah. So, yeah, I enjoyed that tweet. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Find me, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Some tweets I like.

First is from Tig Notaro's account, but as we all know, other comedians run Tig Notaro's account every day usually. So the tweet is actually from comedian Mary Devon, but it's from the Tig Notaro account, and it goes like this. It says, working at a preschool is like being a judge on America's Got Talent, except everyone gets the highest score possible, and their talent is like, look how slow I can walk. Another one from Kelsey Cook, at Kelsey Cook. Billy Eilish is like if Fiona Apple fucked a haunted house. And one more from, let's do it, from Jamie Loftus says,

cast me in something before my gums fall off of my skull because the Groupon dentist sneezed on my head and I refuse to go back. Oh my gosh. That's right. The Groupon dentist sneezeth directly on her skull. That's not okay.

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as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track from Slum Village. Great, great group. It's called Reunion. And, okay, most, a lot of the early Slum Village stuff was produced by J Dilla, but this one is not produced by J Dilla,

but the vibe is still the same nonetheless. It's a sample-based hip-hop at its best. Yeah. You're playing a lot of good music today. Hey, you know. Hey, you today hey you know hey you gotta you gotta you gotta i don't know what i'm gonna say you gotta like good miles is a pleasure guys you guys should everybody should get not just for the farts uh no that is specifically not that's a bonus yeah uh the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart

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