The Daily Zeitgeist - Mitch R U OK? Netflix Season 2 Mystery 07.08.26

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

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Have you thought about, so we do this show on Mondays where we like cover different icons. And the thing that they, a lot of times really helps them take off as icons is having what we call two factor authentication, which is like two items that can like immediately identify you. So like Jason Borges has the hockey mask and the machete Donald Trump once he started wearing the suit with the red hat. Sherlock's got the hat in the pipe Sherlock's got the hat in the pipe I don't know I'd need to think You gotta get something I gotta get

I gotta get like a What about like a sole patch That goes all the way down to your nipple one Like a wallet chain and the sole patch Yeah I'm dressing like I'm in 311 Yeah Or you get a sole patch Wow three that was jarring

311 we call it 311 We call it 311 on this side Or if you have you had a soul patch that branched into two things and attached to your nipples. Uh-huh. And the nipples were like pierced in somewhat. Yeah, yeah, of course. Like, what was fucking talking about?

Jack? You're just kind of loose, little hair tickling your nips. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Hello, the internet. And welcome to season 446, episode three of their daily is eight guys. Yeah! It's a production of I-Heart Radio.

It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of TDZ dropping each Monday morning where we do a deep dive into the Zykeyes through the lens of a different icon. Last week we did Uncle Sam with Robert Evans. And then this week we did a rerun because I was out last week. I ran. I kept hyping the Bjork episode.

The New York episode is coming. It's coming, though. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. We did Sherlock. rerun on Monday with Andrew

Tee, very fun episode you get to learn about Andrew Tate? Andrew Tee. Which is what we call Andrew Tate. It's very confusing. Jake Miles, I love coming on the show. His wonky, British, Canadian whatever accent that spans continents.

It's so funny to have like a British accent, a beloved accent, the people are, like, universally generally like, or like hate for justifiable reasons. And you managed to find the one that just sounds the worst. Sounds so dumb. Yeah, yeah. It's unique.

It's unique. It is. And sometimes that's charming. We like it on Adele, you know, when Adel, like has kind of a lowish-British. When Madonna tries to pretend to be British. Yeah. That is my favorite.

Yeah, yeah. Anyways. Find out why Sherlock Holmes was doing so much cocaine and why he's responsible for a lot of very bad police work on this past Monday's episode. As of right now, though, I'll tell you one damn thing. It's Wednesday, July 8th, 2026. Big day. I hope you like cold shit because it's National Freezer Pop Day, National Ice Cream Sunday Day. Yesterday was another Sunday day, and today's National Ice Cream Sunday.

Also, National Blueberry Day, National Video Game Day. Hell yeah, brother. What a delicious day. What a delicious day. Oh, how delicious. Delicious. How delicious. Yummy.

Yum. I, uh, yeah, baby. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah, baby. Whoa, whoa, whoa, my culture is not your costume, okay? Yeah, baby. Austin, I'm sitting there during Austin Pals just been like, how, how dare you? How dare you?

Just how dare your thighs and ain't. What? That was of, of all the different, like, movie quote factories, they were like, oh, he's, he's the funny friend in the group. He does Jim Carrey quote. He does Austin Power quotes. I feel like Austin Powers had the shortest half-like. It was a pretty brief moment where people were like, yeah, yeah, that guy's a real cut up.

He does Austin Power quotes. Get in my belly. It's like Austin Power quotes and there's two of them. There's, yeah, baby, and get in my belly. Yeah, right, right. If you do Orange Sherbert, no one gets the reference. No. No, unfortunately not.

Even though that's the funniest line in the entire movie. Christian Slater. I don't know that line at all. It's when Austin Powers, okay, do I make you horny baby in the chat? Yes, that is a great one. Of course. Thank you, Victor. Yes, you make me.

Now I'm embarrassed. Yes, of course. He got you now. You got that HR meeting later. Good work, Victor. Yeah, but Austin Powers hypnotizes Christian Slater. I keep nearly saying Christian Bale, different guys. and he's like,

Get Samo in Sherbert, and he goes, Get Simo in Sherbet. I find it hilarious. Very good. Other than the fact that my people are being mocked. Yeah. Yeah, baby to that one. Mm-hmm.

My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, oh, Kennedy. His name was Michael Collins, not Kennedy, that courtesy of Donagie Kirby. This guy's all over the dang

Discord. He used as a their trending title this morning. Shout out to Donagie Kirby. In reference to the fact that I believe I kept calling Michael Collins, Michael Kennedy for some reason. Oh, nice. For the Apollo 11 mission.

For the Apollo 11. He was the one who was left back in the capsule to document Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong docking on the moon. Yeah. Stocking with one another on the mouth.

Fucking about. Have fun guys. Yeah. Is it cool? I guess. You'll never fuck. This is the coolest shit ever, bro. You want to come out?

I can't. You know it's against protocol. You know I'm not allowed. You know I'm not allowed to come out. Crazy, dude. I have to watch you do the spaceman stuff. Well, I sit in here. Oh, that's right.

You just, damn, that's a designated ass sitter. Yeah. No one's a designated driver for the alarm. Yeah. Because you know they got a little drunk on the moon. Yeah. I'm mean. You crack a few beers before you go on the moon.

Fuck it. He brought them. They're like, you brought those with you? You could have compromised the whole mission. Dude, of course I'm a crack up room up here. I'm going on the moon.

It's real to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray. Did I have an A.K.A. Oh my God. The suspense is killing me. No. Fuck. Wasn't the thing I was hoping.

No, I do have one, which was wearing hoops in a mesh marina, slaying in this marina. Shout out David Lester, because last week, one of our guests was talking about looking for a mesh tank top and wasn't finding a lot of results. I'm like, have you searched mesh marina? Mesh marina. Shout out to the Jamaican garment. And I'm still don't know. We're waiting to hear back. So still waiting to hear back.

But anyway, thanks, David. for that one. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the tech journalist and writer behind the newsletter, Where's Your Ed at? Where's Your Ed dot at? And the host and creator of the only consistently honest and correct tech podcast that I'm aware of, better offline. This morning, he was quoted the very first line on, I always go to the Drudge Report at least once a day to see what the front page of the conservative internet is saying. And today, it was saying

that today's guest doesn't think AI is very good. It's Ed Zittron! What's up? What's up, man? What's it like? I sort of did it like it it says Zitron warms of AI

warns of AI bust. It doesn't work. Exclamation point. I love it so much because I, like, I'm very proud of my work. It's taken on to a huge form. It's very popular. But like, I am just a blogger.

Like, I really, there's not like, I've learned all that. After the CNBC interview I did a few weeks ago, I, they turned to me often. It's like, so what's, so how'd you get into this racket? I was like, I just blogged a lot. Yeah. And it's just really funny watching people's reaction to that. Because they, because they're like, oh, you're an accountant. We're in fun.

No. Yeah. Just have autism. A lot of pattern recognition. Yeah. Yeah, it's just, I have media and finance autism. I'm thankful that they, well, they didn't diagnose me with that. They just said autism.

I mean, you probably could have got that from the second 10,000 word article. But nevertheless, it's just been very fun because most of this is just reading, like, reading earnings documents and using Google Chrome. Right. Right. And then like, something doesn't add up. And being willing to not let them be like, well, that's a childish assumption. Obviously, the market is the smartest thing. The free market has always worked.

The cause of and solution to all life's problems. Yeah, I remember, like, I think the lower third was sort of like a bearish take on AI or something that when he came on. It's really funny. Is that how you framed it? Yeah. Guys, I was bullish and now I'm going a little bearish on this one. Fellas, I only put on a little weight and I shaved and everything. Oh, wait.

You mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, but it's really funny because I'm just the rig. Like, people have me on and they're like, I say things like, yeah, you know, when you add up the numbers, there's a minus versus a plus. That mean, and they're like, whoa, whoa. What's so funny? Yeah.

Wait, what? No, shut the fuck up, Janus. What did you just say? Add him again. Add him up again. It's so crazy because I've been saying the same thing for like three years. That's what's so funny about the headline to me is. It's like he just found out.

Zitron warms of AI bust, colon, it doesn't work. What? Put a red siren next to that one. Yeah, I would have really loved a siren. Yeah, that's all that was missing here. I love the design of this page as well. Oh, yeah. Has this changed since the Star Report?

I don't even know how you design a web page like this. There's just an ad in the center. Yeah. Then just like. Microsoft. Word, I believe. Yeah. But even then, you have to break

Microsoft Word to do this. Yeah. Is my man still running front page? I kind of love it. Yeah. Yeah. And also has like the hit counter too, like all the things that make it old

internet. I'm like, thank God. You got a fucking hit counter still. He does. This page gets more hits, uh, like more people on this page than the entirety of the New York Times some months.

Right. It's insane. It is pretty wild. Anyways, Ed, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about. Today, we are going to check in with Mitch McConnell. The Death Watch continues.

Death Watch. Death Watch, 26. We're just worried about the guy, and we hope he's okay, and we hope for a full recovery. And then he comes back and is a spry as the day is young. So that's mainly what we're going to be talking about. We're going to be talking about a new potential legislation where if you buy a window seat ticket, they have to give you a window seat next to a window on an airplane. That's just like your opinion, man. A lot of, you know, insidification stories today, rot economy stories today.

That's right. As our guest talks about, we're going to talk about Netflix season two's. You know, see, a lot of people are noticing Netflix stock a little soft. Are bearish or bullish on this one, Ed? I mean, I'm bearish on streaming media. I actually don't think it's a good idea. I think that streaming media was a mistake. So you can't have two bears in a row.

You can't have two bearish takes in a row on. You can have a big ball on. Well, the thing is, but streaming's an idea is great for the consumer. We're going to stop you right there. That's great. Let's do that as a poll quote. It's great for the consumer.

And we're going to move right on. Thanks a lot for that, Ed. Ed Zitron love streaming media I'm just so much I'm just freezing like midface the thing with Ted Saranda

just doing all the YouTube face Ted's a great guy right yeah exactly it all right we love Ted yeah anyways there's a big

conversation about why Netflix season two's have not been performing very well and there are a lot of theories as to why this is

you look at you look at HBO their shows will often grow from season one to season two. You look at Netflix, no such luck most of the time. What you get instead is people not tuning in for season two, and there's a lot of theories about why this might be. I have my own that I'm going to strenuously advocate for. Then we're going to talk about The Odyssey,

which is out and being screened for critics and influencers. So all of that, plenty more. But first, Ed, we do like to ask our guests, What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So I don't know if anyone else has ever had this happen, but you can get rate limited on Google. If you use it too much, they start giving you like captures. You have to click it's like click on the bikes. And that's because I use Google like a database search for my own newsletter because I've got about one and a half million words on there now.

And so you just do like site colon, where's your ed dot at? and then a word. And it works really well, but I use it so much, it breaks Google sometimes. Yeah. Like, and it just,

they slow it down to a crawl. Then they're like, okay, motherfucker, you want to keep using this fine. We're just going to capture you every single search. So yeah,

I have this unhealthy relationship with Google. They're like, you sounds like you need an enterprise account. They're like, what the fuck? No, they don't even offer like anything special like that. It's just purely because you are using their free service too much.

They're like, all right, this guy's really making it. This guy's going to get this guy off of Google. Honestly, I would probably pay for it. Is it easier than to actually just search on like your CMS or something for like a word? Well, the thing is you can't really search a CMS like that. You can't because, I mean, there's 500 odd articles now.

Sure, sure, sure. And especially when it comes to a very specific phrase that I use, which I have a pretty good memory for everything I've said, but not exactly where I've said it. Right, yeah. And so, yeah, I just have this unhealthy relationship with Google. Right, right. I mean, someone at Google just heard you say that and is like,

we got to figure out a way to charge him for them. We're going to get this bad boy on. Let's some tokens, my guy. If only that would work. It's like the one thing that would be useful for LLMs, and you can't really do that. Right. Is it the best thing that the Internet has created? for us. Your thoughts

that go. I would say so. I think Google was like the Library of Alexandria. I think in its purest form, it was something genuinely magical. I think it's kind of a maligned version now, especially with AIO. Yeah, it's worse. They've been trying to break it for

over a decade. They've been trying to break it since 2019. I did a whole story about the man who killed Google Search that was fun, hateful, hateful man, Prabagataka, but nevertheless, there is, I think that, and honestly, Reddit. Reddit, I've kind of turned around because you have, TDZ is a pretty good, like, active red air.

And I have my, I have what I like to call Zitron Truth Social. Because I met R slash Better Offline when it started was three guys who just shit on the show. Like, that's a stupid. I hate this. And as I got better at the show. Sorry, that was me. I just read. I got so excited. No, no, I was just like, I got in there and argued with them as the show got better.

I'm like, you need to listen to me. I went on an ar slash behind the bastards and did the same thing when people dunked on the show. You don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean? And I then like maybe a week into its life, the guy who made the suburb, it was like, do you want this? I don't want to read this. He was like very nice, but he was less like, this is like, I'm like, no, absolutely.

And now we get like 180,000 people a week. Yeah, that's amazing. It's absolutely. it rules, but Reddit is magical. Like, Reddit actually is the closest I've found to the best of forums. Yeah, sure. But you have to, like, aggressively.

You got to know right. Yeah, you got to know how to get through it. And I like moderating because I'm a freak. But they, no, it's a good place and just, it's Citron Truth social. It's where I drop myself. It's interesting to see how like, you know, because a lot of times too, I'll be like, you know, there's like subreddits for like buy it for life where it's like really well made things where it's like I only want to buy one fucking fan

like a box fan or like a knife or something and it's interesting to see how brands have to like are completely changing like tactics to sort of like karma farm on Reddit so then they can post in these subreddits to like get like their brand to sort of seem like an organic post because they're starting to realize a lot of people especially when you look at like how Google will auto complete like you'll ask a question and be like Reddit you want to throw Reddit on the end of that I do a lot of site colon reddit.com searches. Well, one of my draconian rules of my subreddit is no comma farming. If I see someone posting the same thing in my subreddit and anywhere else,

banned, you're deleted, phantom zone. Oh, I have the don't be an asshole rule, which is just, and it's literally just like, however I feel about a person, sounds draconian. It is. Don't be an asshole to me. It really is that simple. And people like, you can't ban me. You can't do that.

I'm like, buddy, I'm doing it right now. Welcome to my fucking feastom. Just did it. Just did, friend. What's something you think is underrated? Oh, the toadies. The toadies. Again.

Did I say this before? Did I do the toadst before? Okay. In that case, that case, I'm changing to Eve six. Oh. Hell yeah. Tell me about this, Eve six. Ah, you think I don't have another night.

He's band ready. Boom. Actually, honestly, I'm just going to, I'm just going to do this so that I never do this underrated thing again. 90s rock music is great. And there's a reason why I consider it so great, which is, I discovered it in 2005. When I moved to Penn State, I did my first year at Penn State, and my roommate was like, oh, you've got to play this.

Helmet. I'm like, whoa! The Tony's what, local age. Right, right, right. And so I am still finding a new band. like Olianda, I discovered the other day. These bands are not new. Right, right, right.

I'll load a Dillinger Escape Plan album, and I'll be like, this is so good, and I'll go and look at it's like 1999. Right, right, right. Eve 6 disbanded in 2004, just making room for you on their fandom. They came back and they made several new songs. Yeah, and they're back. And they're fucking great. Good on Twitter.

This is an attempt to bar me from future underrated 90s rock bands because it is a crutch. I also do genuinely love them. Yeah. It's funny because, wait, so you said prior to you becoming a nitty lion, you were, what were you listening? What were you consuming in the UK? Because I feel like in the past year,

you're talking like Mike Skinner and stuff and like the streets, stuff like that, really listening to that kind of thing. Oh, wait. What else were talking about? Basement Jacks? Obviously. Basement Jacks, yes.

Because that's titular. Basement Jacks and Weezer and Death Metal. Oh. In flames, Arch Enemy. Children of Bodom, Shadows Fall, all sorts of. It's really great because I seem, I don't want to say normal, but I don't seem like an automatic metal fan, but trivia, another great one.

But nevertheless, so I came to America and I learned all this, like, I was also horribly depressed when I came to America, and my time at Penn State really, like, helped me open up. I also, like, discovered the band Kansas at the time in Chicago. I'm like, wow. Yeah. Location-based rock band. That is funny, yeah, yeah, because, like, I have.

had a thing like that when I first got into yacht rock, I was listening to like the darkest shit. And then part of me was like, no, this is kind of fun too. Okay. Yeah, I like this. I like Michael McDonald's falsetto voice, like a lot. The duality of man. That's lovely, though.

Sometimes you've got to flip, like I'll listen to Mastodon all day, but now I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to play the blue album. Right, right, right, yeah. Exactly. Right. What is something you think is overrated? So I finally went to error one.

And I got to be, I got myself a little, little, what I call a little sushi. 40 dollar smoothie? Oh, okay. Yeah.

Yeah, it was like $11. And they didn't have Diet Coke. And I'm like, look, if you're going to beat the shit out of me price wise, at least give me my slot. Give me the poisons.

Yeah. Give me my poison. I drink 11 of these a day. You're not going to stop me. Hell yeah. Full on cancer. I don't think it's 11. I think it's like seven,

which is not much better. Saying it out loud, I'm like, that doesn't, that's not much better. That's easily over two 40 ounces you would have been drinking a day if I think of it in 40s, yeah. But I just looked around the store. I'm like, this is just the British store, Marks and Spencer, where it's like, hey, what if things were nice and fresh? Right, right.

And the things are nice and fresh. Like, it wasn't that it was bad. It's just when you, I feel like you have these kinds of stores all over Europe, well it's like what if we had a nice store where like a nice food shop obscenely nice yeah yeah i don't even know if it's obscenely nice yeah well i mean and like because like it's a crazy too like if you get something there i had to get chicken soup the other day and i went in for the first time and it's like there's a three dollar to pot like everything's in glass and you owe three bucks for every container you take it like that's three bucks on top and i'm like what bro just give me the

fuck the soup is expensive already loose now bring in the ship so do you have to return the glass you can get it yeah to get your like thing and i'm like dude i have a sick partner at home i got to fucking do just give me the fucking jar i got to go yeah i'm i stand by this that that's so strange i mean i get it i guess but three bucks but at least m&s has percy pigs you know one of my favorite candies some of the best weirdly enough peeking duck i've ever had was from the set Like, no, right? But like they're just very good peaking dogs. You can heat up there.

I know. It was like the first time I had it and I've had it many times since. I'm like, it's still rank it. There's something. There's something about it. Yeah, not having it. It is funny because like whole foods, there's so many, especially in L.A. There are so many health-centric markets like that where it's only like the most healthy

organic things. And like you just can't even get like normal Cheerios. I'm like, yeah. I checked. Like that wasn't a diabolical food product. And they're like, no, no, no, we have brand hoops. And I'm like, no, fuck all this. I don't need extra fiber or whatever the shit is you put in it.

It's just worse chiroos. It's just worse chiroos for people who don't trust branding, who don't trust things that have been like properly. I do really like, I don't trust general meals, but I trust error one. Right. They can't even spell their own name backwards correctly. It's supposed to be nowhere backwards. What is it the, they fucked up the W. Is that true?

I know they say that, but like, is that actually true? I mean, it doesn't mean anything else. Yeah, I guess so. I trust them because they do collaborations with Balenciaga for a shot. I would like them better. I think this is a really good pitch to Airwam, that they should have one product that is carcinogenic and bad for you. That is just, like, undeniable.

And it's either diet coax or cigarettes, I think. You know what I mean? Diet Coke, I think. It has to be like no other Coke products, just diet cook. You know what I mean? Yeah, just the one where they're like, sorry, this is, this is good enough that we're going to let it. Or just, or they should do the thing like, like when they had CD video stores that had an adult section in the back. Yeah.

You know, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah. A beaded a curtain that you go through and you can get diet coats. You get a diet coach. There's just the guy back there, like, like, yeah. Yeah, it's going to cost you, man. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you want it, you a dark coat, do you? Filthy pig.

Give me a quick little spin round. Now, we only take coins. He's just completely off record. Yeah. I want this one on the books. I'm not explaining numismatics, but I'm not thinking this is from the realm. The realm. That's actually not a bad British accent.

I try. He's pretty good. Your culture is my costume, man. Yeah. Just to be clear, you can always make fun of the br- Everyone can do that. They don't deserve any mercy. Victor just asked if we make him horny baby again in the chat.

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It's MS now, Jack. MS now. Fault. Fassant. Well, any new updates, Miles, I know you said you guys did an AI story yesterday. I mean, I have a pretty big question just because I've, you know, we talk a lot about AI and I mostly keep up with a lot of the stuff you're doing. But like one big thing I was just really thinking about was the whole like this weird moment that AI is at right now. There's like somewhat, not like a tactical retreat, but rhetorical softening of things like all that recently a lot of the AI CEO is like, it's probably not going to. it's not going to take all the jobs actually. It's not going to do all that. And now, like, there's also talk about, like, all of this extra computing power that exists out there.

I'm curious, like, just broadly, that's not good for an industry that's talking about you need to invest massively. It's like, what is it? Are you expanding so much to the point that you need all this capital or, like, now you made too much shit and now you're like, fuck, bro, we got to, we got to offload this. So what's funny is two years ago, I was like, But yeah, at some point, businesses are going to get charged the real cost of AI, and we're going to find out we built too many data sentence. And at the time, they thought me mad. There was a genuine degree of like, this guy's fucking crazy. But now what happened was back in March 2026, open AI and anthropic.

That's an old school quote, by the way. Go ahead. Yeah. Sorry. Noted. And back in March or so, they open AI and Anthropic were like, okay, businesses, we're going to make you pay. the actual cost of your tokens because before that, anyone could, on the 200 buck a month plan,

you could burn $8,000 worth of tokens on Anthropic and $14,000 on chat GPT. So just keep that in mind. Paying anything. Without, by paying $200 for $14,000 worth of product. It's just $40 for a dollar, baby. That's business. But Ed, this is what all tech companies do. It's like the loss leader where Uber was charging slightly under what it was spending.

And then they built a. massive business. Money pit. And so in March, they moved them on to that. And then immediately, all of these companies that have been doing saying, like, use AI for everything. Suddenly they're all talking in austerity measures. They're all like, well, we've got to moderate.

We've got to spend less on it. We've got to be, obviously, we all love AI, right? They're looking around like death of Stalin, like, blah. Yeah, we all love this, right? This is really good. But we can't spend quite as much on it. And then Uber revealed that they'd spent their entire annual token budget in three months. And then their chief operating officer said they, it was hard to justify the cost because they couldn't connect it to useful things.

Right. Wow. So we were just kind of fucking around on it. Yeah. Making videos of dogs dancing. That's the thing, though. That's what happened. Everyone's been using these things just on these subsidized subscriptions.

but now businesses are being made to pay the real cost, and they're all freaking out. Suddenly, they've gone from AI and everything to AI in measures. Right. And maybe we'll use cheaper models. Maybe we'll do this, maybe we'll do that. But people keep saying, well, they'll cut the costs, right? And they'll cut the amount they spend. The problem is you can't actually measure the return on investment of AI because you pay

for it regardless of whether it messes up or not. Right. So if you make it do some coding thing and it goes in a loop and burns 20 bucks of tokens, you owe them $20. Like it's not like they go, oh, it messed up. You don't have to pay. You pay regardless. So businesses are suddenly freaking out about this.

And also, META about a month ago, on their shareholder meeting, they said, oh, yeah, Mark Zuckerberg, in all his esteem, said, yeah, we think we have a use for all this compute at this point, spending over $100 billion on it. We think we do. But if we don't, we'll rent our compute to people, and it just came out about a week ago that Metter is going to do that. which basically is meta saying, yeah, we don't need all of this, so we'll rent it to someone else. Except the other problem is, is basically all the compute in the world, all of the demand at least

comes from Anthropic and Open AI who both only lose money. So it's just like they've built all this compute capacity. There isn't really demand for AI compute outside of those two companies, and those two companies cannot afford to pay for the computer. Right, right. So it's just like this weird thing where everyone's kind of looking at. around Shiddley and being like, yeah, this is all bad, but what if it wasn't? Right.

Right, right, right. So I think, yeah, there's like a distinction where I think you might have pointed out the last time you were on, but I think we all assume that the more they use AI, the cheaper it will get eventually, like, they'll figure something out and it'll get cheaper to use basis. And like, the energy consumption just like makes that not possible, right? And also, it's not happened. Like just without even being too complex, it's not got cheaper.

It's just they're like, it's going to get cheap. No, it isn't. It hasn't. It's going to do this. No, it won't. And it's interesting, like, is there in such a thing, I mean, like, we've always been of the belief that this is them always saying it can do more than it can to just kind of drive up the price and prop up all of these companies.

But now it's such an interesting moment where it's like, we need all this money for data centers. It's like, and we got extra. And it's like, so it's not working out. No, it's not. No, it's actually really good. And it's great as well because the AI boosters, there was this, we don't have to go into the depths of it, but this fable model from Anthropic. And people like, oh, it's changing everything.

It's doing all these things. But the only people who are actually reacting to the new model in that way are the most insane AI boosters. So it's got to a point where. it's almost like they're running out, they've run out of ideas, everyone's run out of ideas, but they've also, they're kind of half-hearted at this point.

They're like, wow, this is changed everything, I guess. I don't even read my coat. And they're just, they're not enjoying it. I'm not enjoying it.

No one's enjoying it. Everyone's just kind of like moving money around. And even then, Anthropic had this crazy revenue jump in the first few months of the year from that thing of charging customers, the real rates. So they just had this temporary boom. cycle that's now become a bus cycle where everyone goes, oh, right, why am I spending

$50 million a month on this crap? There was apparently Axios reported a company that spent $500 million on anthropic tokens in one month because they did not set up set spending limits. And it's like, if that was counted in their revenue figures. Yeah, right, right, right. You can't, like, if you're getting excited about it, it's like, yeah, our biggest customer in that month was an accident. Right, right.

Right. With someone who left the tap on. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, we just left a tap running and it cost us half a billion dollars. Insane that anthropic would still charge them. Right. How much of the last question before we move off. How much of this do you feel like is specific to the U.S. economy and like just the process of

like corporate capture and everything versus like I think I remember seeing some statistic where, in Europe, AI, like public opinion on AI is not as negative as it is in the United States. Is it like specific to the technology or is it specific to how the US is using it as just like a never-ending magical piggy bank? I think it's everywhere to an extent. I mean, you've got the Gormous Quartz in England being like,

oh, well, we need a sovereign AI strategy you got it in Canada too. And I mean, in general, it's everyone being, it's like the scourge of neoliberalism, the idea that everything has to be centered around growth, that the free market can dominate, Milton Friedman's bullshit, and that every company must grow forever. And thus, after decades of that, they've chased out all the people that finished the sentence, which is growth. We need growth in our companies. Dot, dot, dot. That's sustainable, so that the company doesn't run out of money. eventually, or so we don't all jump on something that run out of resources.

Also, so that we don't jump on a hype cycle that just only exist to burn money. Because that really is the AI bubble. It's just, it is a tool that exists to burn stuff, to give people a reason to buy data centers, to give people a reason to spend money, to give a company a reason to charge a lot of money. And it's just, there was a Wall Street Journal story that just came up before I came on that It was like, yeah, and on top of that, after these companies have talked about how successful they were, apparently they're giving away millions of dollars of tokens to businesses to get them to sign. And it's like, yeah, how much of that?

Like, at some point, it's like, okay, so they've built too much capacity. They're having to literally pay people to take, to use their software. They're subsidizing regular users, like $40 for every dollar. And also, Nvidia is paying its customers to buy its GPUs now. I don't know. If this was a real boy, if this was not Pinocchio, a wretched, horrible, stinky puppet, maybe it wouldn't have all the signs of a speculative bubble. You know, if it didn't have every warning sign.

But you still, I will say since I was last on, the big thing that's changed is pretty much every outlet. And I was going, hmm, are we in an AI bubble? Right, right, right, right. And just repeating things that I've said in different words. I don't think ripping me off just like, because a lot of what I'm saying is fairly obvious. When you look, it's like, huh, so all the money is basically being fed between maybe 11 companies. Yeah, yeah.

And it's just, all of this could have been avoided had anyone thought about this a year and a half ago. Like, if we'd have tried to slow this crap down in 2024 and be like, ah, this isn't the thing. But that's the thing. When we have a stock market that only cares about growth in the tech industry that only cares about growth, this is what you get. You get a thing that only exists to create growth. That doesn't really resemble a functional product, but kind of symbolizes growth in general.

So, yeah, it's really bad. It's all really awful, very bad. Not for me. I'm going to look great, but. You're going to look so good. It was as Darren Ravel once said. It's like, I feel bad for this nation, but it's tremendous content.

Right. To be clear, the people that are going to suffer here are regular people. Yeah. And it's just, it really sucks. It does. But again, good for us. Content gold mine. No.

It's, uh, all right. Shit, I really thought, I really thought I was going to get some actionable insight into how I could invest in AI on this one. You've foiled me once again. You sound bearish, man. I'm not going to lie to you. You sound a little bearish. All right.

Let's talk real quick about Mitch McConnell because we have an exciting update. His office has said that he appreciates the outpouring of support he's receiving while he continues his recovery in the hospital. Damn, that sounds like super conscious, you know, like he's awake. He appreciates the outpouring of sympathy and that he continues. to improve and is working closely with his staff on Kentucky and Senate matters while the Senate is out of the session. They did stop short of adding, see, here he

is wearing sunglasses and waving with Andrew McCarthy and Jonathan Silverman. They're like, here, put his headphones on, he'll start dancing. Weekend at Bernie's 2 reference. Weekend at Bernie's 2, which was a...

This is a Caribbean music. A curse of some sort, right? Yeah, exactly. His body had been cursed to, like, be... What a strange? strange curse. It's the same curse as one of those, uh, as one of those, uh, like, uh, Venus fly trap toys that dances when you make noise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of smoke around this because for weeks, they were like not explaining anything.

Right. And then now there's all kinds of weird shit happening like in the periphery. Yeah. So, uh, his daughter has randomly deleted her social media accounts. Uh, Laura Lumer is claiming that he's officially brain dead, which we don't always trust what Laura Lumer has to say. But that is the sort of thing that if he was officially brain dead, Trump would definitely like tell her, you know? Right, right, right. She would find out. He died like a dog. Exactly.

You die like a dog. Like we're not allowed to put him down, though. Some say he was already brain dead. And now it's official. I'm not saying it, but people are saying it. What else is new? There's so many jokes already of it. like just off the back of that one tweet from Boroughlumer.

You heard that? You heard this? You heard this Mitch McConnell guy? You seen this? You heard about this? Mitch McConnell. Jay Leno says it with a bruised face. So the reason for the specific conspiracy that his death is being withheld or, you know,

he's being kept alive in the most perfunctory of manners, just technically alive, is because if he is dead, or has to resign due to a serious health problem, it would set up a special election since the Kentucky legislature passed a law in 2024 stripping the state's Democratic governor, Andy Bashir, of the power to fill a vacant U.S. Senate seat. So it should just go to the Democratic governor to be like, all right, here's who's going,

here's who's going in there, or it would have. It would have. Now it just, they got scared that there was. The only difference is like, what, you'd either call a special election that would happen weeks before, the general. Yeah.

And that would just be chaos. Or you just wait for the general. But I mean, a lot of people are pointing like, his wife skipped town. There was all kinds of things. His wife went to China. Yeah. China. What's a line of China doing in China?

What is she doing? She's a spy, which is what a lot of people are now. They're like, what is she doing? Like, a lot of people are like, she's the one that would be able to pull the plug and she's not there to make deals in China. I'm like, well, I mean, it's not like Andy Bashir would be able to get to pick who the fucking the replacement would be. But yeah, there's a lot.

I mean, the thing that's also very strange is, like, a lot of MAGA people now are like, we need to see him. What's going on with him? We demand proof of life. Oh, well, whoa, whoa, well, after years of saying every conspiracy theory is true and every

government is doing conspiracies 24-7, it turns out that people have conspiratorial thoughts. Yeah. That sometimes don't benefit you. No. Or don't make any cogent sense. I just really like the idea of being like, show me Mitch.

Show me McConnell. The Bureau Chief of Breitbart posted, McConnell's staff should produce proof of the senator's condition one way or another right now. Who's that guy in a black turtleneck and black slacks down behind him right there, moving? Whose arm keeps moving. Like a Jim Henson situation.

All right. Should we take a quick break when we come back? We'll reveal if Mitch McCann. McConnell's still alive. We'll be right back. I'm Munggishit together and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.

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It does make when I remember the majority leader Thune in the Senate was like, yeah, I spoke to him and he sounded great. And you're like, he said that like back in June and you're kind of like, ooh? Did he? Did he? That's where it's hard to know, like, is it's like obvious... Because that was the thing even when they were keeping it a secret was sort of like,

no one's really saying anything and all the stuff that's being said about him. He can't wait to get back to work. Oh, he's ready to find. for the people of Kentucky. Be so crazy if that whole time, they didn't speak to him. He was actually on life support the whole time. I mean,

it would be crazy. It would be very predictable. Yeah. I mean, he is that, it is a very Mitch McConnell way to go, you know. Yeah.

I mean, that way for him to go be to, for him to permanently retreat into his shell. Right. Yeah. Sure. Sure. His head has just sunk down below his shoulders.

How did turtles die? He's in there. Google search for me. All right. Let's talk about Netflix, baby. Shall we? Let's talk about Flicks, baby. So people in social media over the weekend on Monday were talking about this strange phenomenon that Netflix shows seem to see a massive drop-off between season one and season two in a way that isn't true of competitors such as HBO.

And the theories that I'm seeing most often are an argument between people saying, It's that they wait too long. You know, other places like HBO, they'll wait a year and then put out the next season. And they have it on like some sort of standardized production schedule, whereas Netflix will just let it ride. And there's also the theory that it's the release schedule with everything dropping on one day and therefore no prolonged cultural conversation that kind of keeps people interested in the show. They're also not incentivized to have shows that keep people coming back for season two, because once they've got you with season one, it's not going to drive new subscriptions. They're all about driving new subscriptions.

And so it's better for them to just like have people, you know, come for a new show. Oh, just chumming the water. Chumming the water is like, everybody get in on the new discourse around this thing. and yeah. But yeah, so in terms of, I don't know, I've talked to, like, I have a friend who has written for, like, HBO shows, and he is like,

he thinks it's like a couple of, it's like a mixture of everything, but I just wanted to throw out a theory that I haven't seen getting as much run, which is that the season two's of Netflix shows haven't tried being good yet for the most part. Like, when you think

It's a bearish take. I'm a little bearish on the season twos. Like, I just, I don't know why it wouldn't be the simple explanation that, like, all of their biggest shows have started out better than they ended up. And it's been, like, House of Cards was their big guarantor, and they had, you know, what's his name, David Fincher, like, on board to direct, like, early episodes of that. And then it like fell apart towards the end. I'm like the general take that you would get from people is like, yeah, this show is not good anymore. Stranger Things is, I think,

more controversial. I'm probably not the best person to speak about. Stranger Things, but- Why? Because you loved the lesson? I watched season one and thought it was fine and then heard from people who watched season two that it wasn't quite as good. And I was like, well, that would follow the pattern that I've kind of come to expect from Netflix, which is like it's a retreat to mediocrity. Like even when they have a very good first season. But you think that's like intentional or just because their greed just forces them into these decisions of like,

crank out another season? No, I think it's, I'm just saying that the reason their ratings would be going down for season two is because the show suck. People are smart enough to recognize a pattern and be like, well, I'm not going to be like super excited because it's going to fall off like there are other things. Like people aren't stupid, you know?

They're just like, yeah, I don't know. What about Squid Game season two? Oh, wait. Squid game might be the best example because they, Squid Game season one was just like a movie script that they couldn't get, so the makers couldn't get financing for. So they turned it into a single standalone season. And then Netflix was like, all right, well,

that's the most successful season that we've ever had of anything. now we're going to go big on season two and it immediately like fell off and nobody enjoyed the problem is with Netflix is their shows vibrate with loathing for the customer they change the actors they take forever to get out there Netflix lighting fucking sucks they throw too much stuff on there too fast so everything's it gets back to the right economy thing it's about growth number go up they want to see engagement numbers and what they don't realizes as well is that Netflix can choose what will get famous.

They, it's a self of, they can choose, they can choose where something is placed on the platform. They can choose if something becomes big. They control the algorithm. It's not like the algorithm is an angry beast that they prod and

unpredictable. And it burps out a season of something. No, it's they choose. They are the ones that are choosing to lower the quality of everything. So people just get flooded with stuff. And shit, there are not a ton of,

shows I've watched, though, just kind of, I've forgotten existed? Yeah. I just don't relax. The way that, like, on Amazon Prime, upload. Fantastic show. Love that show to Bets. I actually really think it's been great. I didn't realize

there was a new season for over, yeah. Sorry, upload. I don't even know. I don't even know about these shows, right. It's kind of the proof proof point, though. It's a show about where if you die, they can upload you to a digital world,

and depending on how rich you were before you died, you'll have a better experience. It's insane that it's on Amazon. But that show had a new season out for two years, and I just missed it. Because they flood these channels with stuff. And so they're like, I wonder why this doesn't work.

Or like the actors change, or they don't really care about the writing. It's just there's a soullessness that Netflix and streaming media in general brings. I think it damages. creative content. I think it just turns everything into content. But I didn't watch the second season of the Squid Game because I just don't really care.

Now, Victor just made the point where they cancel shows really quickly too. Netflix put themselves in this problem. The people that make my good paraphrase my girlfriend here, she directs horror movies and it's like they don't, these shows are not picked by people who like TV or like movies. These aren't fans of visual entertainment. they are various levels of Patagonia gargoyle who were just sitting around being like, well, the engagement numbers on this one, I like that. You see that number went up over there. And with a kind of Asian people between 12 and 24, that could be someone that we market

and like, wow, number go up there too. But wait, number go down here. Cancel the entire thing. Right. Because it's just, and it's just this arbitrary mess. and so it's got and there are so many

streaming services now who the fuck knows wherever I had to I wanted to watch return the living dead with a girlfriend the other day and it was on MGM Plus I didn't know that exists

yeah isn't that Amazon like doesn't Amazon own MGM like what the fuck is that you have to pay for it on top of Prime Amazon Prime I will say also I blow out with John Travolta

which was phenomenal great movie Brian De Palma movie about fantastic stuff. But that's the thing. It's just like, it was the joke that people made at the beginning that we're going to get to a point where there are so many streaming services. It's basically cable TV. Except it's exactly what it's become. Except it's arguably worse because the monetization of streaming platforms is piss poor. The money that most of them make is pathetic. Like most of these shows will never make back what they make because it's all sloshed between, it's all sloshed between, oh, how many subscriptions did we get? what ads were run on it. Are the ads paying that well? Streaming ads don't tend to pay that well at all.

And honestly, even though Amazon Prime streaming is the ads on that are insane. You get like five ads back to back. Yeah. But they feel worse than regular ones. I'm not sure why. Yeah. Well, they're often the same series of ads over and over and over again. Yes.

And that never happens in podcasting. So we're superior to them. If anything, the content, only improves so at the time. I do feel like the entertainment that gets made in the entertainment industry has gotten worse, but we're in this weird,

like, warped reality where we don't really recognize it. Or like, it, I guess because for so long, that just was old people, and maybe that is what this is, but like it,

it does just feel like, I don't know, that they're like, what's going on with the, why are people tuning in for season one? And then not giving a shit about any of the subsequent seasons from a network, from a creator that only gives a shit about season one

and then like basically fucks off for season two or like takes too long or like doesn't prioritize it at all because they basically think about it as like, well, we already got them hooked. Well, they don't understand that like the attention and the engagement that clicks, that's a byproduct of making art that people want to see. That's right.

Yeah, I don't know about that. And I was because number one, up and definitely right. I see more hippie crap. Get this hippie out of here. Fucking art. That's a woke nonsense. But you know what I mean?

Like it's that inversion of it of like, well, we can, there's a way to make it formulaic to your point, Ed, of like, how do we just get the KPI's fucking popping? Then yeah, you just do underhanded shit. Like, I don't know, put a fucking famous face on there. Doop them into watching five episodes and then fuck off and then do the next thing. And then just be like, just rinse and repeat. But then you just go further and further. down and down and down and quality.

And which is why I think like the last month and a half of like features that have come out, like you're just seeing all these like independent or like, you know, semi-independent or like more ideas that aren't based on existing IP just do so well. Yeah. And they're still like, what the fuck's going? I will say I, I, my controversial view is actually maybe this isn't that controversial with the people who were like actually like the what was it, obsession. And people like, well, they didn't have to.

give, because it was a non-union production, I think. They didn't have to share the profits with people because that's how it were. They didn't. By that logic, they should have to share, the workers should have to give back the money if the movie doesn't do well. I just want to be clear, if your movie caught is cheapest chips to build and make and ship and people like it in same ways to refer to a movie, just moving on, then, and you make a shit ton of money more, you should share that with the crew. I don't give a crap. Who, you are. If you make a bunch of money off of something by surprise and you paid

people cheap because you're an indie production, you're a fucking asshole if you don't share that. And I understand, and I get that there are non-union productions that are only like they wouldn't come together if they were union, people couldn't afford it. Like, to be clear, I'm very pro-union, but it's like, indie film is tough. Yeah.

And it's rough on people and there are some real scumbags in it, but there are also some people who are just doing what they can with a very small budget. In all of these scenarios, the profits should be right especially from a movie that is just blowing up insanely right especially like a project too that's like counting on like hey man just for like believing in it let's just make something special exactly knows what's going to happen right and then if the who knows what's going to happen ends up

being millions and millions of dollars beyond what you could have ever projected yeah then you go back and be like hey i know the the going rate for your work as an art director would have been like 70,000 and i gave you exactly here's at least here's let me get you to say you to say let me get you to 70,000. Right. As if that were a thing. But yeah, the whole, like, well, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, they get to do what they want.

It's like, okay. Yeah. Just shut up now. I'm just, I'm researching David Lynch for an upcoming iconograph. And just like, you know, the thing I grew up being like, well, this is the evil empire is network television. And like, ABC was willing to make twin peaks, like, you know, like they're like, I don't know, nobody watches ABC.

But then they fuck it up. Because he didn't want to say you killed a report. They certainly did. Yeah, yeah. I like how he ended up answering it in the most insane way. Right. Like, just like, it's like, okay, you want an answer. You want, you want to know?

Here it is. Here you go. It's a bad one. Yeah. Who gave birth to Laura Palm? I agree with David Lynch accent just falling in all that. No, you got to listen to more wet, though. You got to listen to those old weather reports to dial in it.

It's like watching Icarus fly there for a second year, David Lynch was. I'm a girlfriend. to David Lynch in the last year. It's genuinely a fellow artist, I wish I could have somehow known. Magical fellow. Truly. That's going to be a bangor. And speaking of a banger, Ed, so lucky to have you.

Thank you so much for joining us. Where can people find you, follow you, read you, all that good stuff? Where's your ed. Dot at? Please subscribe. It's my principal form of income now. We can do this, fellas. No, it's going well. Better Offline.com.

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So there's this movie called Pan that came out, I think, 10 or 15 years ago. And there is this insane clip. I've not seen the movie where huge jacked man is Captain Hook or not. And he's just walking around. And he's walking around this ship as like a fancy man in like a suit of armor. And he's just singing smells like teen spirit to this crowd of children. And he jumps up on the earth. He goes,

it's the lights out. It's less dangerous. And the kids are singing along. It's like, what is this? And it's not a musical. That just happens in the middle of it. Is that just something written into Hugh Jackman's deals?

He's like, I got to have a musical number. I need to make sure I can sing. It smells like teen spirit. Wait, really? I guess. No, I think it was just the director. And you know what?

It doesn't look like a great movie. But I really have to give a director credit for just being like, no, I'm doing this. I finally got some people. I'm going to do it. I've been thinking about this for 15 years. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. Or even better.

I like to imagine he just learned about the song as he was making the movie. He's like, I've got to put that in there. I have this feeling that I could be a great showman, maybe even the greatest. just the greatest show. What a weird choice for Captain Hook. There are versions of Peter Pan and Pinocchio and Robin Hood that have been made with like massive celebrities that you have never heard of. Right, right, right.

Just all those open source things, they're just like, what if we tried that again? We're going to try that every six months and see how it goes. Yeah, but they don't make bad movies like they used to. They don't. No, they don't. What if in this one Captain Hook saying? nerve on.

Oh, go on. Wait, wait. Yeah, we're going to need to spend a lot on CGI, but that's just the cost of doing business. CGII hair. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media?

You've been enjoying. Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. I'm talking shit about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé. Talk to that shit. Talking about the world of football. Footie on Ain'It Footie with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. Check that show out too.

Thanks for everybody who's been listening, especially through the turn of into the World Cup. A couple works I like. The U.S. lost to Belgium was just so funny because, man, on social media, the jokes were fucking hitting so hard. And here's just a few that I love. This one is from at prison Mitch said,

the USA can still advance to the round of eight if Mike Pence has the courage, which is so fucking stupid. I love them. At Luke is amazing. That's so good. Haven't seen America this thoroughly embarrassed on the world stage since we lost that war. We started doing Iran like three.

weeks ago. Then another one is at Economissive posted in football there is a tactic called parking the bus where it's a very negative defensive style of play where you put all of your men, like all of your defenders in

front of the box to just prevent any kind of offensive, anything taking off from like your opposition. So that's called parking the bus at Economist have posted the U.S. trying to park the bus but they don't really have a functioning public transport system. Yeah, just a lot of A lot of good ones.

Enjoyed them. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky, Jack O.B., the number one. Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. I like to tweet from Richard Lawson, who, as all the influencer takes on the Odyssey, we're coming out, said,

Odyssey is terrific. Comfortably seats eight and features the thoughtful engineering touches we've come to expect from Honda. Hell yeah, happy Honda days. Happy Honda days to us all. And William Freakin tweeted, if you ever catch yourself asking where an actor has been, they're on season three of an Apple TV show. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. That's accurate. They're on upload. Season four. We all know that one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes. We're at the Daily Zekeist on Instagram.

You can go to the description of this show, wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes. which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, this is a just musician, singer, artist from West London, who is known as Aluya, A-L-E-W-A. The track is called M-K-T-O-U-B.

It's got like some nice sort of African Arabic rhythms to it. And just kind of like a nice, just look, just going to make your big toe shoot up in your boot. So check this one out. This is Mach Tube, M-A-K-T-O-U-B by Alewa. Al-LU-A-Lu-A. Oh, it's not, sorry. Not Al-LU-U-Y. Al-Lu-Y.

Justin Timberlakes in. Drop the hal. It's cleaner. No, it is Al-Lu-Y. Yeah. So maybe she listened to him. The Daily Zike is a production of I-Hart Radio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio. Visit the I-Hart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's going to do it for us this morning,

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