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Well, well, well, the Nuggets suddenly look mortal.
And Anthony Edwards appears to be immortal.
And we've got a ton of great playoff basketball to discuss with our very own
super producer, podcaster, journalist, Jabari Davis on today's episode.
I'm Miles Gray.
And I'm Jack O'Brien.
And this is Miles and Jack O'Brien.
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Dachich deep three.
Got it. And Luka Dachich hits 10K. You don't know about that. first episode free yeah i am free mild oh yeah i was gonna say yeah freedom for you yes you are
i am a neutral baby yes and you welcome jabari it feels good jabari yeah welcome to the couch
with this yeah yeah hey what do you want to watch today? Let's turn on the, I guess, well, as we record this,
Oklahoma City and the Mavs are having their first game of their series.
I mean, yeah, they were 2-2 against each other during the regular season
and split games on each court.
So, you know, seemingly very even, but I'm wondering,
I know we were talking a little bit before what we think of this matchup. Jack,
you're definitely incentivized. I'm incentivized
to root for the
Oklahoma City Thunder
Miles. 100%. Yes.
He's incentivized. That's all you need,
folks. And, you know,
just watching the Mavs close out their
series with the Clippers, I was like,
they might have something there, too. The Mavs are the
hot pick. They're the sexy pick
among pickers.
Are they the favorite?
They're not the favorite, I don't think,
but I think it's very close. Yeah.
That's what it feels like.
Jabari, how are you looking at the series?
Are you leaning one way? I mean, I think earlier
I was saying, I think
I like the Mavericks, but let me tell you why
first. I believe that because of what is like the Mavericks, but let me tell you why first.
I believe that because of what is happening in hip-hop, Canadian players are wobbling right now.
So, Lou Dort, I mean, yeah, that matchup with Luka could look cool, but I believe you're born in Montreal.
Shea Gildas Alexander, I believe you're also Canadian.
I don't know what's going to happen. So you think they've just been robbed of their spirit?
I mean, look what happened to jamal you know jamal murray has also we'll get to that series in a second but that is my hair brained theory that has no science behind it it's pure conjecture
wait that it's irresponsible it just feels so scientific advanced science it's advanced science
it's called west coast science you know what i mean
this is where where um aggrieved west coasters can find someone to take out their collective
frustration on but yeah i don't know i mean i think i think it could be really close i just
personally my my thing is the mavericks not because of the science like the kendrick i'm just glad
that the nuggets wolf series didn't like start the day that we were about to record something.
So I wasn't on there making any predictions.
Because I think we're learning.
It's so matchup based, right?
Yeah.
100%.
What happens.
I mean, I just...
The thing I'm saying about the Nuggets and Wolves is obviously I would have picked that the the wolves will win the first two uh the second game by 20 to 30 points on the road because yeah
uh i just wouldn't want people it just sounds like a lot of pressure because then everybody
would assume that like i i'm the nostradamus of the nba exactly and after the shellacking the
lakers got i would have predicted that jamalal Murray would be a minus 38 in the series.
I would have predicted that.
I would have.
To Jack's point, you're 100% right. It's all
matchup-based. We can look at
and truthfully, we can pretty
much throw out what took place in a regular season
because you're not catching teams on the
back end of three
games out of four days and things
of that nature. Everybody's going to be ready. When I look at the Mavericks and OKC, my heart, you know,
actually, I'll start with my head. My head tells me the Mavericks are going to take this because
I, you know, like when I think two teams are somewhat evenly matched, I look for who's the
best player in the series. And I've got that as, and I've got that as Luca, no disrespect to Shea,
you know, he had a MVP type, you know you know season this year but I would still give that advantage to Luca
so really what it boils down to is you know who are the other guys that are going to make the
difference I mean you pretty much know you expect you know what to expect out of Kyrie and Shea
but I'm looking at guys like Jalen Williams and PJ Washington as x-factors in this matchup like
truly and I know that's not you know groundbreaking analysis but you know this feels in this matchup. Truly, and I know that's not groundbreaking analysis, but
this feels like the matchup that someone
like that is going to swing it. I like
Jalen Williams in that matchup between
those two. I don't know, man.
Lou Dort! Lou Dort!
Lou Dort! I like him.
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good about
OKC.
I don't think it's
very clear. I think at this point, I'm just going to rely
on my West Coast biases to take
me away to a place called
inaccuracy and pure emotion.
We'll see.
We'll see how it nets out. So you're riding
with Mavericks over
OKC because of the Kendrick
Drake beef? Yes, yes.
Purely based off of that, I'm taking
energy from a completely unrelated industry and
field and transposing it onto the nba and saying this is what the universe this is how the universe
is bending currently yeah it feels like these are both two teams that their main their achilles
heel is they don't have enough size but the fact that they're going against each other gives them one more round where they can you know look like normal nba teams and then who knows uh but the wolves and
the nuggets are um have you seen those guys those guys are big big those guys big real big
yeah oh well so growing big up there in Minnesota. Oh yeah, they do.
They do.
Um,
do they even have one player?
That's a local,
I'm not even sure.
No.
Yeah, definitely.
Every NBA team,
I assume all their players are local.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obscure Spanish football teams.
Yeah.
Oh,
I mean that people always do lists like that.
We're like,
who wins team LA team,
like Bay area.
Oh yeah. LA would dominate. I mean, it's great. We were just looking. So I mean, people always do lists like that. We're like, who wins? Team LA, team like Bay Area, whatever.
Oh, yeah, LA would dominate.
I mean, it's crazy.
We were just looking.
I was trying to, you know, in preparation for the eulogy for my Sixers,
I was looking at Melton, and I was like, oh, he also from LA,
from the greater Los Angeles area.
Hey, shut up.
This series could go any direction.
I'm totally not,
I don't feel confident
in any of my picks
other than that
it would be cool
if OKC won.
Okay, so then you're saying,
so moving on,
because I think
whoever goes on
to face the winner
of this next series,
it's going to be
very difficult.
Yeah.
These two teams feel like
beyond the Celtics,
they would be the favorite
to win the title.
Whoever wins this next series.
Nuggets, Timberwolves.
Timberwolves.
Yeah.
So game one.
Ant, man.
It's back and forth affair.
It was like, wow, this is going to be a war.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Complete total dominant.
What do you put it?
Like 43 points?
Yeah.
It was obsc Yeah. It was
obscene, it was obscene to watch
and Jabari, we were talking a little bit
before, I was like
not that there's any kind of flash in the
pan moment, I'm like, is he just on a hot streak
or is this Anthony Edwards proclaiming
to the world that
he is in fact here and he is
ready to just be that guy?
You're right, we were talking about i think
he's absolutely here you know now he'll go out in game three and of course have a you'll have a bad
game and people will listen and say like oh well those guys on mad boosties didn't know what the
hell they were talking about but they don't nobody cares nobody cares about the show
we're pretty clear about the fact that we're idiots, so you don't have to worry.
You're in with the dum-dums, Jabari.
Nobody cares.
Don't bet your money on our picks, except for Jack.
Yeah, except for my off-season picks,
based on seeing a single highlight of Chet.
That's where you're going to want to put your money.
I do think that Minnesota has figured out this mix.
In game two, they didn't even have Gobert in the mix.
I know.
I know that he was criticized for missing a game.
Again, people will say whatever, but you know what?
Family first, and I get it.
Plus, hey, look, their defense got even better without him.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
Plenty of opportunities.
Gilbert Arenas was like, that kid's going to be there when you get done.
Look.
Karina's like, that kid's going to be there when you get done.
Hey, look, I've had two children.
Being there for the childbirth is overrated.
Hey, man, I think that's cool that he was able to do that. I missed the birth of my son to go get a basketball autograph by Skip to my Lou at Foot Action in downtown LA.
And it was worth it.
Yeah, it was worth it. Headache was there too.
AO, all the N1 people. I was like,
I told my partner, I was like, I gotta get down there.
But yeah. N1 was like a
wow, the Wolves are here.
They're like serious. They're going to
be able to make this a series
with a team that I think a lot of people
were probably expecting. Not me, obviously. I knew that they were going to win both the first team that I think a lot of people were probably expecting. Not me, obviously.
I knew that they were going to win both the first two games.
But a lot of people were expecting
Nuggets
in five.
Maybe Nuggets in six would have been generous.
Game one, we're like,
wow, Ant is
here. The Wolves are serious.
After
that game, I don't know anybody who was prepared for game two
just being pure domination yeah um on and they're just absolutely i don't know i did not and you
could tell that the nuggets felt it early on like they just looked dejected coach Coach Malone was on the court. He lost his mind. Yeah. He lost himself
in the moment. The music.
Jamal Murray,
you know, we were saying his
on-off numbers weren't great.
Well, you have to keep in mind, when he's
off, he's still contributing
by throwing heat packs
onto the court. That's
wild. What kind
of reverberations
do you think that's going to have? What's the worst
sort of penalty
that he could face?
I think it's suspension.
How many?
Probably one.
Yeah.
Yeah, because he threw a towel
and a heat pack. It's like the towel
didn't reach its intended destination
and the heat pack didn't either
but that does not seem like that
ends well considering that the league
is looking into that.
It did make me
kind of realize
that if I was an NBA player I would
be doing stuff like that all the time.
Oh out of pure frustration?
Yeah.
Reminded me of the Jason Kidd thing where he spilled
the drink to like
stop yeah and like it when that happened i also was like man how do they not do this every time
like because i'm such a like you know i i scream things like when i'm in my home like when that
shot went up from heart to like beat the six it was tie game heart gets an open
look he's been killing us all series um we had like friends staying with us they're in the kitchen
i'm in the other room and i'm just like no no no no like they like came in to check on me
yeah they thought you were like you caught fire fire or something. Yeah, right. My kids are coming in being like, what is wrong with you, man?
Is Maxie okay?
You're like, no, none of us are.
We're fine.
None of us are.
It's fine.
We're fine.
We're fine.
It is what it was.
But yeah, I mean, again, like Kat, Naz, Reed, my goodness, look.
Kat is playing much better than I ever thought
oh my god
game one he was really strong
like you know there's the cat things
that were he has like lapses
here and there but just
much better offensively
than I thought I would see
in a playoff series and then game two he was even better
yeah you know what this run from
cat reminds me of?
Honestly, 2020 Anthony Davis went final.
He was no longer on his own team,
no longer having to carry the load,
no longer having to be the guy in every way.
And he could just focus on playing basketball
and suddenly he put up his statistical best year of his career.
I'm not necessarily saying that Cat's going to do that,
but to your point, he looks
like he's at peace. He looks like he's just
playing at ease. That's a
scary thing if you're facing
these Timberwolves. Both former
UK Wildcats with a prominent
eyebrow.
Exactly.
It's all there.
I would say that this is
more out of the blue.
Anthony Davis was always thought to have the potential
to be one of the better players in the league prior to that run.
Sure.
Maybe I've just been underestimating Cat,
but yeah, this has been fun.
And it really does seem to come back to Anthony Edwards.
Just nobody saw this coming for him
this long after ER's run ended.
I'm going to keep making that joke
for as long as he is in the NBA.
For our younger listeners,
they're like, what?
Is he okay?
He's going to be like Michael Jordan in two years
and I'm still going to be making Anthony Edwards
from ER jokes Edwards From ER jokes
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He's doing the MJ
shrug. He's flexing on the crowd.
He's just got...
I'm absolutely
invested in
him right now.
By that, as a Laker fan, I mean, come home,
Anthony. Come home.
He's not
from LA, right? You just like come home Anthony come home he's not from LA
right you just mean come home
in terms of every great player
belongs in the purple and gold
thank you best thing I saw about
him was somebody who went to high school with him
was like you never saw him walking
through the hallway without
a different beautiful woman
under each arm or I guess girl since it was
high school but yeah
that's just he's got he's got the riz as we don't really say
as we say yeah as old people who try to sound like young people say this is fair somewhat to
that point i feel like we spent the year asking you know openly like okay we got to kind of having
a changing of the guard who's going to be the face of the league? We threw a bunch of names
out there, and Anthony Edwards just told y'all,
no, it's me.
Yeah.
Just also that the defense
in general, as someone who watched
that Lakers series, I'm like, wow, so that's what
it looks like when players buy into what the coach
is saying.
Really executing to the letter
of the law. then i'm like okay
so i'm taking notes uh and they have a coach that is yeah that they are yeah and again like to your
point about the 2020 lakers they're defending yokich like the 2020 lakers too which somehow
the lakers of now couldn't remember that that's well i mean i guess darvin ham couldn't remember personnel yeah exactly yeah we just we are lacking we're lacking the depth we're lacking the size it's
all so the the scheme is with the lakers it was dwight javel on yokich with ad helping and with
the wolves it's cat and naz on ball with gobert helping. And even when Gobert
was out, it's like, they still...
This is my thing. Part of me
to just center the Lakers
again as part of it is like...
How do we make this about the Lakers?
And I will tell you why. I believe
that they had to, by beating
the Lakers, it psychologically
set them up to say... Because we
were the last stop for them to go to the finals last year.
And I think they were like, we've overcome this team.
And I, we're probably in a good place.
I don't, cause some people were like, oh, they're just washed.
It's like the NFL where, you know, like the one team, one years, you doesn't have it together
the next season.
But I don't know.
It just seems there's like a level of frustration that you're seeing from the nuggets that feels
like a bit, I don't know, like they were really expecting things.
You're expecting it to go the other way.
It also just seems like Murray is a step slow.
He's very frustrated.
And we really see a massive difference in this team, like and in Jokich and in everything when he's not 100 like it just
right that is the thing that unlocks everything which i guess we knew that about the nba like
having somebody who is a knockdown shooter who can get his own shot um and and knock down ridiculous
shots is a shot making is the name of the game is
the thing that I say,
cause I'm really smart.
I disagree.
I think it all boils down to how many Canadians you have on your team.
That's right.
And that's my own analysis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's called West West y'all.
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And it's time to
send a few more teams
to the big court in the sky.
Yeah.
With wings made of parquet.
Yeah.
I think now, although each team fought valiantly,
we're going to need the Clippers to step right up first.
Hello, Clipper Nation.
So, I mean, it feels like the Clippers remain on an endless time loop
that consists of offseason positivity,
optimism from media,
and fans alike.
A great run in December or January
only to wind up in the same position each postseason.
Put simply, building around several players
that have routinely been injured at the end of the year
might not be the best of options.
Any notes on that eulogy?
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know anything about building a team
around several players that have routinely been injured
at the end of the year.
So, yeah, I can't do anything but sit here and feel sorry
for Clippers fans.
That must stink.
Yeah, no, I did not appreciate the way Kawhi just decided to spite me
and not play well in the playoffs after I...
Yeah, he heard what you said.
My big pre-playoffs note was, watch out for this Kawhi guy.
Last year, he was a little bit hurt.
He's the best player in the league.
For two games.
It's, I don't know, I wanted to see them do well.
I was pulling
for the Clippers and they
once again, you know,
it's just
it's not, they didn't match up
well, but I don't
think they were beating many people.
It seems like not
a hopeful situation for this team.
Jabari, thoughts? Jack, I think
the words you're looking for is
clips going clip
and see you guys next year for the same exact thing.
Wow.
Those weren't what I was trying to say,
but go ahead.
Well, it felt like it.
It felt like that's where I was going.
It felt like it was right there.
Very Lakers fan thing.
That was an alley-oop.
That was a lob.
That was a lob. That was a lob.
Jack, would you like to step up to the lectern?
Not really, but okay.
The Philadelphia 76ers.
Speaking of teams built around players
who are routinely injured at the end of the year,
we have reached the time of the year
where I can officially
take a deep
breath and contemplate
whether I want to
take this ride
ever again with these Sixers.
You do.
We found our other star
in Tyrese Maxey.
But maybe it's time to tear it all
down around Embiid and Maxey
and rework the supporting cast yet again.
I've seen the list of people who are going to be available.
I don't know if that makes sense.
Maybe it's time to tear it all down around Maxey only.
Oh.
Send the big fella wherever he'd like to go.
So I wish I could say it was a fun ride but yeah it was
more of the same and you're up you're down yeah rest in peace jabari any other comments
for these philadelphians i i can't i can't like pour this on no man i i feel so i feel for
sixers fans i do not even just jack i just Jack. I got a buddy on Twitter.
Same thing. He, every year,
tells me this is their year.
And every year, I have to tell him, it's not going to be,
but I'll see you at the end.
No, but see, this time, Embiid was
hurt. If he was not hurt this
time, then we would have been,
we would have won the championship.
I don't know. i think it might be time
to experiment with radical things like maybe he doesn't play for the first half of the season
or the first half of games i don't know this schedule does not work it turns out but he's
he's great i appreciate the opportunity to get to root for him it's just the playoff
frustration it feels like it's not going any anywhere for a while absolutely well that brings
us to the orlando magic and we wanted to give orlando's offense the benefit of the doubt after
their shooters caught fire following game
two but just when they needed to seal the deal their trio of Paulo, France, and Suggs combined
to go just 13 of 64 in an elimination game in which they had an 18 point lead at one point
tragic stuff and now come the Klay Thompson or Bradley Beal rumors that are likely to be a large part of this summer's discussion.
And I may already be exhausted by them.
But thank you.
You gave us something.
You gave us something.
That was a good run.
It was a good run.
I gotta say.
By the way, that's like Paolo-Fran-Suggs combination is like 90% of those makes were Paolo.
The Fran-Suggs
combination was
deflated. That was
really dire when you get
down to that. I enjoyed
watching the Magic. They are like
a
you know, they're just
a very unique team. It was
almost like watching a different sport when they're out there.
Cause their offense is yeah.
Their offense is,
as we've described,
their defense is a weapon.
Like their defense is their offense.
They're right.
Uh,
they get turnovers in ways that I've not seen.
NBA teams get turnovers,
just like ripping you right when you come across the court,
apparently Suggs is even better than this usually um and was like a little bit hampered by injuries they were fun it was like i love having a team that has a super specific identity in the playoffs
like along the way and i i actually would have liked to see them go against the celdics because
i think they would have made the celdics somewhat uncomfortable and made it at least like, I don't know, painful for the Celtics to roll on through the Eastern Conference.
I don't want this to sound disrespectful because I'm not in any way saying they're like a high school level team.
But to the point you just made about their defense, it seems as though you remember like a great high school defense how it can impact
the game it felt more like that yeah honestly if you give them just a couple more competent
offensive players i think the match are going to be right in the mix next year maybe not you know
title contenders but you know still up in the top of the eastern conference and and pushing teams
but clay and bradley beal are not it i don't know i don't know who we're looking at here. I gotta
take another look at these free
agents and off-season
tradables and signables
because that wouldn't do it, I don't
think. And I don't mean to be disrespectful,
but I have to go.
And I hate to do that in the most
professional way in the middle of a podcast
recording. But thank you.
This is not a bit. I do have to run because i have a family gathering that i gotta get to uh but i will be back next
week and i you're you're in good hands with jack and jabari the stuff we're gonna say about you
after you're gone can you believe this guy you believe that stuff? Is he for real? His camera's still on. He's just back there
housing Taco Bell.
He's trying to do
something. That baby is going to be there tomorrow,
Miles. Family's going to be there tomorrow.
I go, but my
camera's on. I'm just rehearsing a TikTok dance.
I'm trying to get down really good.
Alright, y'all.
I'll see you.
Bye, Miles. Jabari, time has come to talk about the bucks
of milwaukee a technical hometown even though i grew up in los angeles i was born in milwaukee
there you go so do you want to take this one sure the bucks what more can i say wouldn't wish the
job on anybody i mean except doc rivers he's the one guy would wish his job on well he's a hero
he is i mean it was brave it was brave when he came through and took that job over are they still
giving out like purple no no no i don't think the military can technically give it to him but it's
definitely i'm just gonna say it was under discussion in the pentagon i can see why i
mean you know milwaukee they still have they still got yannis and dame under contract uh but no word
on the whether the travel party or the team managers or any of the you know just bus driver
yeah bus driver anybody else anyone can get it when it comes to doc rivers no word on whether
they're you know what their future holds and you know it's interesting because
you know before the show you talked about you asked whether doc was coming back and the more
i think about it it's like well what the hell else is he going to do yeah he'll be back and
we'll be right here again next year and we'll be right here feeling sorry for him again i mean
having to coach yannis yannis well like It's not even how you pronounce G.
Yeah.
Yeah, what?
Yeah, yeah. It'll be interesting
to see what happens to them.
Giannis, Dame, and then
who knows after that.
But yeah, I mean, Daryl Morey was like
it's going to be a teardown around Embiid and
Maxie basically at his postseason
press conference.
And Doc has said
the same thing about the
support staff and the bus
drivers and everything else.
That's one way to
buy yourself more time.
You tear it down, you're automatically
given another year or two.
Alright. Eastern Conference,
Celtics-Cavs. I don't have a ton
of hope that this one's going to be super competitive.
Any glimmers of hope here, Jabari?
Honestly, no.
I would like to lie to you and say that, yeah, I could see the Cavs pulling this off.
And while I'm not going to say they're going to get swept or anything like that,
because when they get it going, they can be effective.
I just can't see them winning four out of seven against this team.
Not high-level analysis. One team's just better than the other and even with porzingis probably or likely out for this round i still look at what boston has and i just don't see a way for
yeah yeah so i think everybody's kind of counting the celtics like just putting the Celtics in the finals and the other series,
Knicks Pacers,
I don't know.
Like again,
I don't foresee either of these teams
able to defeat the Celtics.
The Knicks are tough,
at least of the remaining teams
in the Eastern Conference.
I feel like the Knicks probably have the best chance.
What do you think?
I think that's going to be the best series
of the Eastern Conference is Celtics and Knicks. Yeah. best chance. What do you think? I think that's going to be the best series of the Eastern Conference's Celtics
and Knicks. Yeah.
We will eagerly await that, assuming
that the Knicks are able
to win three more. They did win
game one, Jalen Brunson,
fourth straight
40-point performance by
a six-foot
guard.
Yeah, six-foot-ish guard ish. Yeah. Yeah. Six foot ish guard is unbelievable.
Like his,
his ability to get,
get the ball in is,
is truly,
I mean,
he's the man.
And then,
yeah,
the Villanova,
like Josh Hart,
even Chenzo thing.
It's really wild because like,
I remember watching them in school and being like,
man,
these guys are good.
Like,
I feel like Brunson was one of those. I remember having this in school and being like, man, these guys are good. Like, I feel like Brunson was one of those.
I remember having this with Embiid too,
where like Brunson looked awesome in college,
but like he didn't necessarily look like a pro,
you know,
cause he's a little bit smaller and it's not like blinding speed or anything
like that.
And I remember having that with Embiid where like watching the Wiggins game
where it was like Wiggins versus Jabari like that
game is like these are the guys who are going to
be the best and like watching
Embiid is going to be
incredible right
and everyone's like yeah I mean maybe
but yeah I don't know
it's like the thing that you
always imagine like a good college
team it's like all these guys are going to stay together
and the pros they're going to be best friends but it's like somehow working for them it's a fun story but
team chemistry is a real thing and when you have effective guys that are you know also friends
yeah we are yeah it was never gonna work out for me and my buddies but we thought it would
all right uh should we go to one more break and then come back
and do the rapid fire?
There's one question on here
I really like.
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you have entered the rapid-fire round of questioning.
And we're just going to do one question
because we've answered all these other questions.
We had a guest bail last second,
so just a little peek behind the curtain.
So that's what's going on here.
We're not going to say names,
but we are going to do a single
rapid fire round of questioning question that i like so much it comes from our discord from
charlie xavier on the discord or charlie javier depending on how accurately you want me to
pronounce it but the question is so the the tom Brady roast just happened as we're recording this. It was a
big success for a lot of people. And Charlie's wondering, LeBron is the obvious choice. Shaq
is a roast regular, but with the release of the Tom Brady roast, I'm wondering if we're going to
see more live athlete roasts on Netflix and what NBA stars they would want to target. Just tossing
this out because it might make a good lightning round question someday.
What player would you want to see a roast of?
Charlie, today is that day.
It's a good lightning round question right now.
Well done.
Very, very good question.
So LeBron is the obvious choice and it feels like the one that we would be most likely to get LeBron or Steph.
Yes.
And those would both be bad.
Yeah, because, you know, nobody wants to say anything about like an all-timer, you know.
You're listing a brand.
Yeah, unless it's Shaq, because folks for whatever, well, for a lot of different reasons feel like, yeah, I can give him the business.
Yeah.
But, you know, a guy like that, it's like, yeah, I can give him the business. A guy like that, it's like,
what are you going to say? Hey, family guy.
Hey,
you look like you have a healthy family.
Cool. Yeah, yeah. It just feels
like it wouldn't be that fun. But then again,
Tom Brady didn't seem like it would have been that
fun.
I think they
gave three subjects that were
off-limits and then just went to town, just body shots on everything else.
So maybe it would be fun no matter who we pick.
Charles Barkley, I feel like, would also be sort of an obvious pick in the same vein as Shaq being kind of a roast regular.
Who are you thinking?
I'm going to steal Miles' answer.
And you know what?
Since he's not here, that's what you get, Miles. Yeah, that's what you get miles yeah that's what you get miles nice try should it should
have stuck around i want give me draymond green and you know what i'm gonna be careful here but
for one i think he would be a good sport about it and and really get into it but then there's
also the flip side what if he's not hey give me that too yeah we've seen what he can do it's going to be entertaining you know either way yeah i think i would enjoy that i think i mean if you could get
jordan which you can't but that would be interesting we know uh we we saw the last dance
we know that he takes things personally that are not remotely insulting to anyone besides him so
uh it would be i feel like we would watch a man walk out of a room with like a list of 30 lives
to ruin but i don't know i think i think that would be a lot of fun personally mike would take
his boot cuts off to expose some i mean sports yeah and everybody line up, let's go.
I would just want to see them roast his wardrobe.
Like that would be just fun enough on its own.
All right, Jabari, we did it.
We rapid fired one question.
We're at the end of the show.
We are ready.
So I guess we didn't do picks on the, on the series is,
but who do you like Mavs?
Okay.
See,
like I said,
my heart or soon my head is telling me that Mavs,
but I'm going to go with my heart here.
And you want to know why I am a shameless corporate shill.
Yeah.
It benefits this show.
If okay.
See,
continue to be successful.
Yeah,
that's right.
Let me get okay.
See in that series.
Yeah.
So it's pretty
straightforward. Do you like the Wolves? Do you think
the Wolves are going to do it? And I will
admit, I did not have them before the series. Now that
we've seen two games, yes.
I've seen what they did on the road in those two
games, really setting the tone.
I believe the Wolves are going to take that one.
Yeah, okay.
We're both aligned there.
Knicks over Pacers?
Knicks over Pacers. I hope it's a good series. I hope it's a better series than I'm anticipating
because for some reason, this feels like one of those 4-1, maybe 4-2 Knicks series,
but I would definitely take a seven-gamer. That would be fantastic. Still got the Knicks.
Yeah. I think this is one where I might have picked the Pacers before game one,
I think this is one where I might have picked the Pacers before game one and I might still,
I'm going to pick the Pacers just to go wild, even though they're down one Oh, at this stage, I just, I, I think they have a lot of offensive firepower. Unfortunately, I think they're going
to be an easier team for the Celtics to play, but, um, I do think that they have a pretty good shot in that series and then i'm going calves
over so now uh so i was like well that that is definitely one um and you know what all of i you
know what we we do have someone else and shout out to this guy i forgot his name off him he's in our
discord he picked uh calves in five calves in five yeah calves in five wow Calves and five? Yeah, calves and five. Wow.
You know,
not at that level with him,
but I appreciate his confidence.
I mean,
a man after my own heart.
Or a woman.
I don't know.
All right.
That is going to do it for this episode of
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