The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #113: Jokic the All-Timer with Jamel Johnson

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Miles and Jack were pleased to be joined by comedian and podcast host Jamel Johnson for this week's episode. The trio discussed the fate of the Cavs, the resiliency of the Knicks, Jokic in the all-time conversation and plenty more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mike, oh, that's right. Yeah. I thought you did that on purpose. No, actually, that was just a genius move from producer Jabari. But that's one of those times, the crossroads, it overlaps, and it makes sense. And, yeah, look, I probably, you know, took an L here thinking that the Nuggets were actually just going to lay down

and die after those first two games against the Wolves. I think I remember saying that Jokic should retire. And I regret that now in retrospect. He's been exposed. He's a fraud. And I told you. And I've been telling you. I think I called him a fraud.

I called him a fraud and he's been exposed. And so that's an L for me. But not an L for us today because we have comedian Jamel Johnson in the building. I'm Miles Gray. And I'm Jack O'Brien. And this is Miles and Jack O'Brien. There you go. Embiid driving, spinning, fading, hitting. LeBron's got it with five. He's going to try another three. Mr. LeBron James.

Giannis with the take. Uh-oh, look out. No showtime. What you got, Giannis? Comedian Jamel Johnson in the building, co-host of the Brandon Jamel Show. Thank you so much for joining us to talk all things NBA. Wow. Thanks for having me, guys.

Here we are. Here we are. Thanks for coming, man. Just a quick bit of news. Just looking at the draft lottery results here. The Pistons lost 68 games and wound up with the fifth pick. And the Hawks, they were like, oh, probably maybe the ninth position. They got to the number one pick in the upcoming draft.

They were in the play-in, weren't they? Or they barely missed the play-in? No, they were in the play-in. It upcoming draft they're in the plan weren't they or they barely missed the plan no they were in the play it was the worst game in the play it yeah that's right yeah they tried and they ended up with the first pick you got rewarded for trying and looking stupid yeah congratulations here they are congratulations congratulations you've won a free ipod everybody's so down on this draft. I'm just going to say and usually like I feel like people are generally right about like the top of the draft when they're like there's nothing going on

here but I don't understand why because there's so there's so many times when like a player gets picked. I mean we're going to end up talking about Jokic a lot today and he was in the deep second round during a Taco Bell commercial. He got picked.

So I wouldn't sit this draft out completely were I an NBA franchise. You know what? I'm a Wizards fan. So obviously I feel the same way. But now that we got the number two pick, I've been looking right. And so one thing I don't know much about any of these guys straight up the only thing that i know for sure is the top two prospects that espn had listed are french they just released the team france the the tryout roster for the olympics it ain't even the the real 15 man team it's 20 dudes

and neither of them two dudes was in the 22 dude roster and I said okay maybe this draft is bad. If you're telling me the top two French guys can't make the French team and they just come over here. Is Wimpy playing? Yeah Wimpy playing. Do they have like a cap? Because I know with

some things you're going to have a certain number of professionals or whatever. They got all type of... Look at the Dream Team, though. It's not like they're like, we only put out the farmers. They got Batum. They got Yabasele. They got every other French guy.

They got Haitian guys on this team. They got all the French guys. Right, so they can't even... There's no Christian Leitner type appearances on this yeah listen i just it's a little worrisome that neither rez or shay or sar didn't even crack the tryout team i mean but look at look at our roster we got uh halliburton and no jalen brunson so well if i was brunson i'd take the summer off too, bro. You're playing 52 minutes a game.

Yeah. 52 minutes in a 48 minute game. Right. Right. Yeah. How? How? Yeah.

Did you see that Tibbs made them run suicides in the halftime? You made them run the lines. They're playing high school basketball. They're doing high school ball. Truly. Right. He's like, every turnover, you're running. Yeah. Just so you know. I don't care. lines they're playing high school basketball they're doing high school ball truly right it's like every turnover you're running yeah so you don't care get down give me 20 man yeah um i'm trying to conserve energy uh not on my watch anyways uh it'll be interesting i mean in the

comedy world this is good for us yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it'll be full of surprise who knows it might render the next yokich maybe i don't know who knows or let me ask you this some sort of general how many over under on how many dudes you think are going to be like real players not necessarily all stars or all just like dudes when you look at them you'll go yeah that dude's real yeah like a player whose name i learn and commit to memory. Yeah. Right. Right.

Right. And you're like, oh, that was the only good one out of that draft class. Yeah. I guess just statistically, at least I'll bet three. Right. Okay. I was going to say like 10. Three is low.

Three would be a historically bad draft. Yeah. Dude's a can't even play in the game. No, no. Three would be wild unless there was some sort of plague that wiped, that like came through. Hey, stranger things have happened. Stranger things have happened.

Miles knows some stuff. Yeah. Don't look. I'm just saying, stay away. Stay away. But yeah, shall we dive in to the playoffs? stay away but yeah shall we dive in to the playoffs i mean the other big question is is bronnie going to because bronnie said he's he's coming he's just focusing on his self-confidence and as he should be i feel bad for that guy man oh i do too

it's you cannot get curious is anybody gonna do the thing they draft him and they're like hey lebron i mean danny age is making that noise right now it seems like sounds like that's what the rumors are stop it yeah you can't make lebron move to utah i know that's not right i know it feels wrong doesn't it at the very least the wine has to be readily available at any time of day any day of the week at a minimum for lebron james to be anywhere and swapping in dirty sodas i know yeah maybe he does in his old age um you know i'm i'm the same age i'm i'm getting more and more interested in dirty sodas so that would be funny to see lebron like just get fat because he's drinking like milk and pepsi right right

right yeah for people who don't know what dirty sodas are, it's just sodas with extra corn syrup in it. They're really popular in Utah. Yeah, like whole cream. Yeah, whole cream mixed with Pepsi mixed with extra sugar because Pepsi doesn't have enough sugar in it. This is what they're drinking instead of

40s out there. Yes, exactly. Well, they drink 40 ounces of that. Yeah. Bye-bye blood sugar. But anyway anyway should we get to the playoffs what do you yeah yeah yeah why not why not that is happening that is currently what is taking up the con oh man playoffs these dang playoffs uh i'm not gonna make it all i'm not gonna make this whole episode about how Luka is taking food out of my children's mouth, but he is taking... Jamal, I bet $100

in the offseason that OKC was going to win the title during Summer League. Yeah, those are odds. That would win me, I think, over $10,000 were it to come to fruition. My lord.

And Luka Doncic is destroying me! He heard. I do have to make this about myself and I do have to take this personally. Yeah, yeah, of course. They just look overmatched. Coming in and sitting back and looking

I'm like, I feel like OKC the coaching matchup is at least a wash. I thought OKC's coaching would be maybe slightly better. I'm not a huge kid person. Talent-wise, I feel like they're maybe a little bit stronger. But I think it's coming down to who has the best player, like a lot of playoff series do. And even though Luka hasn't been great across the series I mean that's what game

five came down to it felt like yeah yeah I mean it seems like his health is the biggest the games where they lose Luka's out there hobbling around you know it looks like one of his glutes is all messed up or something yeah right

I mean like I think the other thing he was saying is like, I'm going to try and not really complain as much and just focus on having fun. And then he's like a casual 31, 11 and 10. And she's like, yeah, it feels like just,

just being myself out there again, focusing on the lobs, the lively too. I was just like, wow. Full court lob. Dude, those lob, lob city. too. I was just like, wow. Full court lob. Dude, those lobs.

Lob city. Unbelievable. Yeah. He threw a lot. Like, that's up there with the longest lobs I've ever seen. That was actually, like, we were looking before. Yeah, that ended in a dunk. That's basically tied for, I think, Jokic had one from an out-of-bounds play, like,

at the three-quarter court. And then there's obviously the D-Wade full court to LeBron. But LeBron laid it in like a coward. So it doesn't count. No. We do not recognize layup lobs here. That's not

a lob. That's called living with fear in your heart, unfortunately. That was the play when I knew OKC wasn't't gonna win um it was very similar to the full court shot by uh jamal murray that i was like okay put the wolves away yeah put the wolves away that that might do it for the whole series i i know this is only game four but that might do it for the whole series and it could have simmed it after that as far far as the Mavs go, I still think it's going to go seven. I do have the Mavs winning,

though. I have the Mavs winning, though. Sorry. Yeah. I'm not a big gambler, and this is making me realize why people gamble. I'm just like, man, this series... It's such a slow burn, too. Yeah, but this series is really, both me and my wife are living and dying with this.

Because what, game six is in Dallas. Yeah. So they're going to steal one. That hasn't stopped them. They've been winning in Dallas and losing at home. Yeah. Yeah. Lucas Health is more important than at home. Yeah. Luka's health is more important than any

location. Also, I'm convinced this is the only team Jason Kidd could coach. Just like a generational point guard with an attitude problem than another one.

Right. Right. Who else to put these dudes together? with an attitude problem than another one. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Who else? Who else can put these dudes together? And then you just add two bigs who are the same. Derek Lately and Gafford,

hey, they'll catch a lob from anywhere. Yeah. They got a nice thing. They're not missing Brunson, though. Right. I don't know how that's true. They're not missing Brunson. They're not missing Kleber. They're not missing Brunson, though. Right. I don't know how that's true. They're not missing Brunson. They're not missing Kleber. They're not missing... Who else used to play for them?

Dwight Powell. They got another dude who just looks like tinier Dwight Powell. Get the other one. Get the other Dwight Powell in. The idea that Brunson could be on this team right now is wild to me. I mean, I guess they wouldn't have kairi if uh right yeah true that is the difference yeah yeah yeah um but we'll get to the eastern conference in a bit but oh my god should we take a break and come back and talk

nuggets well yeah yeah yeah let's do that let's do that let's do that let me let me memory hole my bad takes so when i come back i'll say i knew all this was going to happen yeah we're going to do a hard reset which is where you take one of those theragun things to the temple uh we ask you to do the same thing and come back and you you won't remember our bad takes about this series from last here we go wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast n NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.

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We're back. I'm Jack O'Brien. We've got the most on We're back. Yeah, that's right. We're back. We're back. I'm Jack O'Brien. I'm Jack O'Brien. Most on-point takes. Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.

Thank you. Jamel's the only one who didn't do the hard reset during the break. Wow, nuggets and timber wolves in the playoffs? I did not see. That's wild, man. I can't believe the wolvesves were here this far against the defending champs. What did they think was going to happen? My goodness.

Oh, boy. Yeah, Game 4 was just... I think it was 0-2 last time we chatted. It was 0-2 and I... Hold on. My memory's coming back and I don't want to acknowledge the things that I said where I said any team that had a Canadian on it

was taking L's because Kendrick defeated Drake in the beef. Oh yeah, that's right. It was all about the Drake thing. You're comparing it. I said, sorry Shay. Sorry Lou. You were right about it all. I guess not about Jamal. My goodness, he heard.

We were just like, yeah, we'll see what happens. Then that eight points in two seconds, that run they went on i was like oh no no no no no it's a freaky friday this series went freaky friday yeah truly truly and i think it's probably one of those things you're like yokich was like i love my horses but i also am a competitor so maybe it isn't time to go on full summer break mode. And then, game five, I'm haunted by his performance in game five.

Just everything about it, he put on just a show. The Nuggets should have lost. I guess it really comes down to two things. I think this is Shaq and Rudy Gobert's fault together. Part one, Rudy Gobert's fault together. Part one, Rudy,

stay with your kid. After they win game two, don't come back. Continue to bond with your child. Talk, read, sing. It changes everything. Stay with that child for the rest. Skin-to-skin contact is so important, Rudy Gobert.

Get with him. Stay close. Guard your kid. Be a defensive player of the year on your child. Thank you. Part two, Shaq telling Jokic to his face that he thinks he's overrated. Right. Yeah.

That was truly, and I took that personally. He literally took it personally. He's like, oh, you think, okay, all right. And he was probably like, why does Shaq think he's that much better think okay all right what and he was probably like what why does Shaq think he's that much better than me oh because he used to dunk hard I'll dunk hard right fine I'll dunk five times this game sure by the way that's the only way that like bulletin board material is getting to him is if it's like personally related right to his face not like

he's like opening up a twitter or something yeah yeah no not at all it takes real face to irl insults like in the olden days to be like i challenge you to a duel he's like what me oh challenge accepted where do you jamel where do you uh see you know yokich in terms of like all-time bigs because i think that's something as we see him play more and more and win mvp after mvp and you know potentially getting two rings now and at 29 years old i mean uh definitely one of the greatest uh i'm one of those dudes who likes to do like just a group like a tier because i i give uh i give extra credit to the old school guys uh because there's no video for us to truly like really break down it's like you get a pass plus you guys were playing off 12 beers so actually

i'm giving you more credit for playing off 12 beers yeah like leather sole dress shoes yeah so i think but i think he's like he's in the conversation with the akims wilson I'm giving you more credit for playing off 12 beers. Yeah, like leather sole dress shoes. Yeah. But I think he's in the conversation with the Akeem's, Wilt's, and Autumn dudes. But I think he raises a bigger thing. I think we need to add a new category of coolest big. Right. And I don't think he's coolest.

No. Which is what we... When people don't want to put him in the greatest list, they actually don't want to put him in the coolest list. Yeah, he's just not as cool as... Yeah, he's just a horse boy. Yeah, he's a horse boy who plays uncle ball. At the highest order of like uncle

driveway ball, because that's how he makes people defending him look, where they are like flummoxed. And he's like, come on now, you didn't know I was going to do this? Behind the back, so casual. The uncle who put the ball behind your head and then like yeah up too late i just or you're guarding them close you're literally inside his shorts and he could just shoot a he could just shoot a rainbow ball that goes higher than it does like distance right yeah and it's just cash right yeah it looks like a bad launch and angry

birds when you first play you're like oh man i released that way too high yeah i didn't know there was all supposed to break the i was supposed to blow up the pigs yeah oh i don't know how high i can make it go oh yeah yokish selling a pair of shoes like that because they always talk about like big men can't really sell shoes. Shaq had those shoes, but that was about it. The idea of Jokic doing a big launch, like Jordan brand Jokic's, is so funny to me. Yeah, the rollout. That just proves your point.

He's so casual, too. He'd probably be like, buy them if you want. Yeah. They're just cowboy boots. You know what's funny? Riding boots. proved your point he's so casual too he'd probably be like buy them if you want yeah like just cowboy boots just like riding boots right they just uh i believe i just saw an instagram post his shoe company uh 361 is they're doing a spongebob line of your pictures there you go which i don't think which they probably were like, let's just we'll just make SpongeBob sell them. You're going to sell them. We'll just, you know, we'll play sweet victory and it'll be done.

Yeah. That one video that's being shared around a lot. I wish I knew who originally made it, but it's a cut up of like all the best players in the NBA working out intercut with Jokic in the off season just like wearing stupid hats and like riding bikes or like dancing or you know it's just look if

Jokic acknowledged one rap song if Jokic if there was a video of Jokic playing Not Like Us a lot of people's minds would change immediately he's just not cool and you can't make him cool in fact that's probably why he's so good that's the thing though too like for me as i get older i'm like that's the coolest thing about yokich

is that he's like i'm not trying to be cool this is this is what you get like this is who i am this is how i play and i'm honestly I'm so focused on what I'm doing that it doesn't occur to me that maybe I could have a cooler haircut or my sneakers could be this way or the other. He just, I don't know. I think that's what makes him so, I don't know, unique to me is that he feels like someone who's just purely interested in his own craft. And that's why he's where he's at.

It's so annoying that he's has levels to it too. Like he thought he was trying to get through the whole playoffs playing YMCA ball. Right. And then Shaq was mean to him and he's like, all right, well now I got it. Now I got to play YMCA ball with dunks.

Yeah. Now I got to play LA fitness ball. Right. Taking it up a level. He added a I got to play LA Fitness ball. Right. Taking it up a level. He added a little intensity. Right, right. It really all comes from the passing, though. Like, just watching some of the buckets he got in the lane in this series, it's just one-on-one.

Like, you have nobody coming to help, and it's because he's such a great passer but that's why he's able to get away with just like the wildest like up and under that looks like truly YMCA ball touch and feel bro he has the best feel for the ball he knows exactly the when his little

finger pads touch them bristles he just knows yeah he really does it feels like yeah almost savant level like how like chess players can remember like all the positions on the board like he like he actually knows he's like oh i'm touching this part of the basketball near like near the inflation the hole yes uh-huh oh if you put your finger if you put your ring finger near the little nipple thing yes yeah he's doing crazy nipple spins string music yeah man time every time he's got lebron computer brain for sure like he's got that thing where it's

just like the ball's always going exactly the best place possible to get a bucket basically yeah it's like if rick smiths was kyrie irving yeah it's really hard to grapple with yeah yeah how right yeah man and that was what it wasn't didn't shack always say rick smiths was his worst nightmare one of them because because rick could actually shoot too right right he had a little he wasn't he was stronger than sean bradley right and he was better from outside of the paint yeah that's right okay shack named rick smiths as one of the four players he actually feared that's right yeah because he didn't want to have to leave the paint yeah yeah shack had it easy shack had it easy in them 2000s yeah yeah he just got to sit in the paint and eat chicken they did let him just eat while he was in the paint yeah on like

feeding on opponents and also they were just like yeah feeding himself yeah he's a lot of calories yeah they're just bringing him eight pieces from pavilions right like and the poor ball boys are like man it's hard to get the grease stains out of the ball man you just have to put it put a new one in every time every time it goes out so what are we thinking at this point uh nuggets and six seems right doesn't blowing a two-game lead just feel like such a hard momentum shift to try and come back from like i get that you know obviously going up three and then losing is like the worst but i don't know it just felt like for those first two games like maybe min Minnesota was like, Oh, we might have it like that. And then, and I just kind of,

yeah. Do you like the way Yoke? It isn't on the bulletin boards. You think the wolves were because the staff of ESPN was like, this is the best defensive team to ever play defense in any sport. Yeah. And it's like, that,

that performance in game two was one of the greatest single games of defense but you have to do it four times right yeah yeah turns out and that surprised me too i did not see that coming four times yeah yeah that's not fair because i thought it was a wrap i was had two. I was like, pack it up, man. They've been found out. No need for any more. But yeah, it's over the course of a whole series. Yeah. Honorable mention to the city of Minnesota as well,

just because I feel like they are collective nerves because Minnesota's never won anything. Sure. So once the Nuggets came into their building and went on a 10-0 run. Yeah. That murmur. Tottenham thoughts. Miles knows.

This is what they're thinking out there. It's called a culture of losing. I didn't want to bring that up. I don't want to say that. Loser mentality. I know something about that, baby. That's why I'm picking Dallas in six. I don't want to see a game seven.

Come on. Don't hurt me. It's all being done to me. Exactly. But all right. So we got Dallas. We got Nuggets. That'll be an interesting matchup.

I think the Nuggets probably have to be the favorite out west. And then in the East, my lock of the week is the Celtics are going to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals. Oh, wow. Because they've already gotten to four wins, which I think is what is required. I'm still on the fence.

I'm still on the fence. Bong, bong. But let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about the East wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal five days a week you'll get all the latest news

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Mike Wright from the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast. You heard that right. The Fantasy Footballers have officially entered the Dynasty space. Every week we bring you the same in-depth analysis and entertainment you've come to expect from the Fantasy Footballers, only now from a Dynasty perspective. Maybe you've been living in the Dynasty fantasy football space for a while. Well, we're here to take your game to the next level.

Maybe you love fantasy football and you've been feeling that itch to jump into the Dynasty format, but it feels a little bit intimidating. No matter where you're coming from, the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast has something for you, and you're going to have a great time listening, I promise. Join me and the rest of the crew every Wednesday for a new episode. Listen to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back we're back so i am uh i am a celtics versus the field person like i will i will root for anyone as long as it's not the celtics uh for a championship uh they do seem to

be having the easiest time in the playoffs, though. Unfortunately. The Cavs did their best. They did their best. They're doing a little gentleman's sweep thing where every round they're like, and we'll take game two off. How about that? That'll keep it interesting. It really reflects Missoula as a coach. Yeah. Feels like he's

giving away one just out of respect. Galaxy brain. Keep them hungry. He's like, what's the away one just out of respect. Galaxy brain. Yeah. Keep them hungry. He's like, what's the best one for us to lose so that they stay hungry. They don't get a big head. I know a lot of Boston sports fans were like, could they, they're going to run the table, bro.

They're going to, they're not going to lose a game before they get all the donuts talking that mess. Yeah. Everything changed, bro. Ever since, ever since Derek shaved that mess. Yeah. Everything changed, bro. Ever since Derek shaved his head, bro. Told you. Told you, bro.

It's different. It's different, bro. It's different. It's different. When I saw that too at the beginning of the season, I was like, uh-oh.

If you didn't go to Turkey and you actually just went to, you know what? I'm calling time on my hairline. That means you're in a different, you're on your Heisenberg. You're up yeah yeah yeah absolutely um but yeah i don't the yeah it's i think maybe it could be the other thing too is like if they just swept their way through he's like the media narrative would be too much man just like just lose a game here and there keep it off keep the pressure low. But yeah, it's the Cavs, man.

Hey, Donovan Mitchell, you want to stop by LA? I heard you might be looking for something new. I heard you might be looking for something new. Miles, are you willing to go on the record and say what you said before we started recording? Yeah, I've always said that. I'm not willing to tie the fate of the Lakers to LeBron James' career.

Okay. I'm not willing to. At this point, as a four-year-old man. At this point, no. So if they drafted Bronny, you'd be upset. Oh, absolutely. This is not a family

reunification center. This is a serious basketball club. Okay? This is not daycare. So you said Donovan for LeBron straight up. Donovan is something else.

Well, this is a hypothetical because Jabari was trying to test my gangster as a Laker fan to see if I'm like, yes. Again, I just do not think Kobe was one thing. And that set us back like a decade. At the end of Kobe, was you saying the same thing when he was still after a year with the Achilles?

I was. I was. I've always been such a team over the players kind of person. But I understand the sentimentality of kobe bryant so part of me was like whatever maybe and i get that like because it's rare to have someone go their whole career with one team that as a as a sign of respect you do that fine i don't mind that but knowing what that did to us long term uh and the limitations it put on us that's why when I see this, when I read headlines about the Lakers are willing to offer LeBron James any deal that he wants, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not good for us long term.

Especially when I thought the buzz was like, we're really focusing on this being an AD team. really focusing on this being like an ad team and and i don't know i mean like now there's talk of like jj reddick and now like that whole podcast looked like a weird soft audition for the head coaching job crazy it's just all it's a lot it's a lot but anyway enough about that it's not about that's not about my take on lebron james and whether or not he should be on the lakers right now um and i get it but i see this debate happening all the time where it's like, but I'd rather have LeBron James on a bad Lakers team than to not have LeBron James and be a bad Lakers team. And I'm like, you have to think longer term here.

Like it's, it's, I get that the Jersey sales and all that is one thing, but practically I don't think it's, it's not a great move for the Lakers. No. So I don't know. Maybe the jazz will work out.

We'll see. You can go to love. Would love that for him for that could you imagine that was so weird to see that happen uh but yeah that at all no but yeah the calves you did your thing um and you know it's time to visit your uncle charles y'all because you are at the crossroads i miss him i miss my uncle charles y'all yeah um and by that i mean charles barkley yeah who may not be on tv we'll see so i don't know they like the all the rumors around the cabs are like anybody can go they're like they're can they play these two people can they play uh mitchell and garland together can they play alan and mobley together ah we just blow it up like it's like no you guys have some good pieces like what you don't

need to blow it up necessarily um but it does remind me of the days before lebron came home and suddenly everybody on the calves was was expendable. I don't think he's going back to Cleveland, right? Everyone was looking so much into that. His appearance in Game 4. They're like, what does this mean? It means that he lives in Cleveland. Yeah, it means he has a house in Cleveland. It means it's his hometown.

And he's got nothing else to do. So he's going to drink coffee, wine, and water. What is the deal with him getting to bring his own bottle? Is just because like like is it actually legal for him to have his own bottle at a game i think it should be made federally legal for him to drink wine wherever he wants obviously fine with it i'm fine with it too i just wonder if it's actually like if somebody you know like like if a character from a from a 90s cartoon type villain really wanted to like get you get out of here yeah right get out of here it's it's look you know sometimes people

just got it like that in their hometown and i think that's all it was he's like yeah that's normal people are asking why i can't do that i'm not because no one ever says no to me in this town so you know he tried it first at like a bj's yeah i'm lebron goddamn james slowly just escalating yeah yeah yeah he's like okay okay now i'm gonna try okay you know what let's go to olive garden and see what they say yeah because like bj's that's a brewery but olive garden they have their own wine where they might take a person. They might have a problem. Yeah.

He's like, okay, okay. Let's go to the Hilton. Let's see what happens if I can just drink this in the lobby. Huh. Eventually. The Celtics are through. Jamel, you feel like the Celtics are coming out of the East. Yeah.

I mean, it seems like I do give the Pacers an outside chance still. Like, I don't know the thing about the knicks is it's tibbs army is at some point they're gonna run out of limbs right right they just have to i think winning in the i think being in the garden is like a plus a million yeah so like there's a chance that they may they beat the pacers and make these finals and then boston's just gonna run over them in five because they just don't have anybody left. Maybe if Ananobi was available, it's got to be Boston. Yeah.

Still a big question mark. I mean, yeah. As an anti-Boston fan, I'm getting dreams of Ananobi coming through and making this an interesting series but i think those are pipe dreams oh man that'd be amazing if he came out and hooped in a neck brace that's what the knicks need the knicks in the east final they make the east final they should somebody should be on come out of the floor yeah that's their praise they need their paul pierce moment we're like oh my god he's back and he like, Luke, I'm in a full on immobilizing halo,

but I could still, but I'm still, my lateral movement is still, yeah, I'm still guarding the three point line. Like, like never before. Uh,

but Jalen Brunson, what do you do? Did you, uh, what, what do you think about Jalen Brunson? Did you, were you expecting this kind of rise from him?

I mean, obviously the talent was always there, but now just looking at like statistically what he's doing five games of 40 plus points of five plus assists uh that's tied with michael jordan now i don't think i saw that i mean i knew he was really good from the one year he was with the mavs and they made the west final i knew he was really good but you never know what's gonna happen when dudes change teams especially going to the knicks that's like nothing but stress yeah nothing but stress and he's taken man he's absolutely embraced it it's good good for him that video of his dad working him out i know a lot of guys have similar like uh paths or stories but just but they always pull that video

of his dad just being mean as shit to him in the park, working on one dribble pull-ups. And he kept shooting them. Seems like it worked. It's that Earl Woods school of father coaching. Some people might

say it's abuse, but it will render one heck of an athlete. Is dad still over there on the bench? What did I say? You're running after this. I definitely felt like players have their gravitational equilibrium of where they

where their teams usually want to end up in the playoffs. His always seems to be further than we expect. So yeah, I feel like but I didn't see him being mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan. Exactly, bro. That's why those Knicks fans

I was telling you, he's the GOAT, bro. He's the GOAT Knick, bro. I mean, if he takes some of the Eastern Conference Finals with a pretty diminished and even before that, not that stacked team, I get it. I'll allow

it. I'm not going to say he's actually the GOAT, but I'll allow them to. No, but I mean, that was the excitement I feel like Knicks fans were feeling. They're like, this could actually take us somewhere. Because it would be since 2000, the last time they were in the Eastern Conference Finals? Yeah, yeah.

Something like that? So, I mean, yeah, it's... I'm like, I just, again, I like seeing the Knicks back up in it, and I like to see that the blue and orange are, you know... We've always been a huge James Dolan fan know we've always been a huge James Dolan fan I've always been a huge James Dolan fan so we're just excited to see a good thing

happen to a good guy well that was the thing I remember when you told me about that I was like wait hold on the guy who's in my favorite band has something to do with the Knicks I know it's wild like it's so wild that like the guy that you know from JD and the Straight Shot is actually also the owner of the knicks

and then you told me about his dad i was like no way no way this guy anyway pleasant surprises abound that's all i can say we did a podcast series about uh a great divide the great divide the jd and straight shot album the the transcendent seminal work of J.D. and Strayshot. Absolutely. Yeah. I danced with my mother to It Must Be Night, the second, I think the third track on that album

at my wedding. All right. Is it time? Yeah. It is time for the rapid fire round of questions. It is time

for the rapid fire round of questions. J.D. Johnson, you have wandered into the hot seat. Oh boy. We are going to ask you a series of questions.

Do not meander thinking about your answer or give long-winded answers. Just quick, just chest pass it right back, okay? Because we are trying to keep this thing moving. And if you take too long, we are going to be very rude to you, okay? So I just want to, I don't want any surprises. Don't want any surprises. You've already seen that I have a bit of a hard edge, too. Yeah.

So don't even mess around. It's called being a Sixers fan. All right? That's what happens. That's what it does to somebody. And you've already shown, I've already shown, I don't know where my head's at because I'm a Laker fan. So this is a very unpredictable segment. Very unpredictable.

Capable of anything. Anything is possible. A lady in a hot dog cart might show up. Who knows? Yeah, exactly. Selling you a danger dog. And it might be me. Who's gonna start first? But first, Brian, start the clock! Should I go first?

I'll start. How about that? Alright. Jamel, you can go back in time to personally witness any of the following and i will play these options for you first here is the first option of iconic moments you could be in the building for hey looks hey looks he gives to jordan jordan to the circle puts the shot in the air good the game's over and the bulls have won. Jordan beat them at the buzzer with a jump shot in the circle

and Chicago has knocked off the Cavs 101 to 100. Alright. That's Jordan. What an underwhelming call. Yeah, I know. They didn't put sauce on them back then. No, could've. And the game is

over. Why are you still listening to my voice? I said the game is over. It's over. Get out of here. Go home. Get out of here. All right. Second one.

Raw adults here. The amazing game-tying three-pointer in game six. The Spurs foul. Should Miami go for the three right away? Just attack the basket. James catches. Puts up a three. Long go. Rebound box. They're catches, puts up a three. Long go.

Rebound box. History putter. Oh. Five seconds remaining. Wow. Spurs do not have a tie. I actually got goosebumps from that again. I don't know how, but I did. It was

really good, man. They had the champagne ready to roll onto the court for the Spurs. Truly. And finally, Cavs. LeBron James hitting that buzzer beater versus the Raptors in Game 3. Some pressure here. The big thing is make sure you do not foul anybody here on the dribble. It's going to be James.

Here it is. It turns out that wasn't the big thing. make sure you do not foul anybody here on the dribble. It's going to be James. Here it is. It turns out that wasn't the big thing. Throws up the floater. Good night, Cleveland. That is for you. That really holds a special place in my heart for some reason. Of the Cavs, you know, the commentary spectrum where that one, you got something. But again, I get it too.

That was a dagger from Michael Jordan. So those are your three options, Jamel. You can go and see any of those in the flesh. Jordan's game winner over Elo, Ray Allen's corner three, or LeBron's game winner versus the Raptors. What do you got? I think just in terms of the level of the

game, I think I got to take that finals game. I think I got to goami plus i'm courtside i get to see how weird dj khaled's acting right i get to see how weird he's being up close yeah that's like can't miss it carrie hilson was probably there i mean the stars were out dude yeah it's weird i that i have a weird amount of Spurs gear in my life. I just respect that team a lot. Just like it was like when the league was turning into high flying, they were just like, well, what if we just never left the ground for real? What if it's like one guy was stable down here?

Fundamentally. Yeah. what if we just never left the ground for real what if it's like one guy stable down here yeah yeah they won with this like they were just playing like wmba ball and i just love it but yeah i think in that series i kind of would it was one of the first times in my life where i was sort of rooting for lebron james really that was the only time yeah because i mean cleveland lebron i'm a wizards fan he did he got his name off our back bro he got his whole name off us bro crab dribble you know what i'm saying and even when he came to miami it was like they created divisions and then now he's in our division right right right it was like i can't even why should i be happy for this man but it had finally just him versus the spurs it felt like this was like it was the generational thing it was like

when everybody wanted um everybody wanted to see lebron versus kobe in a final we this was the closest we got to that right yeah so it just was like that one it felt really big and i was like fine lebron i guess you could beat the Spurs. I guess they got five rings. I guess you could win one. Yeah. That was cool. And just so unexpected.

Like, yeah. And a repeat, you know? Yeah. And then Ray Allen, everybody on the Celtics hated Ray Allen. Like him and like white ladies at Applebee's or like. Freaking liar. Yeah. All right. him and like white ladies and apple bees or like freaking liar yeah all right and finally and it sounds like

you and I are gonna have different answers to this one so face of the NBA for the next five years oh just straight up okay straight up face of the league starting now starting now starting now starting now? Starting now. Starting now. Starting now.

Yeah, right. Dang. Ooh, ooh. This is tough. Because they wanted to be Ant really bad, but then they blew that series. Had they beat the Nuggets, he'd be the face.

There'd be no questions. Yeah. But them losing leaves the door open for SGA, leaves the door open for... Damn, leaves the door open for... Damn, who else is even American? Do we even have any other eligible Americans to put on the face of this thing? Might not have to be American.

I mean, yeah, I think they would have to concede to... Who? Luca? He says bad words. Give me SGA, man. It'll be SGA. Okay. SGA, somehow i like it he speaks for the tiktokers right and he sings so beautifully yeah that ad is so fun um yeah yeah my answer is lebron i think he's still gonna be here five years from now just as the population ages i think it's still lebron you know yeah continuing the trend of people who

should be retiring so you're like what if i just held on for a little bit longer yeah we shall see yeah well jamelle johnson thank you so much for joining us on miles and jack off bad boosties uh where do people find you follow you support you hear you all that i'm all over the place uh it's broccoli house on instagram that's where i'm at the most uh non-profit comic on twitter also got a couple uh things i'm doing i'm doing a show on my ig called wmba minutes every monday i'll just give you a few minutes on the league weekly uh and uh the brandon jamelle show is a uh comedy It's a gay comedy lifestyle podcast starring myself and Brandon Wardell

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