The Daily Zeitgeist - MJGMB #122: Las Vegas Summer League and More with Jacquis Neal

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Jack is back and is joined by Producer Jabari and actor, comedian and host Jacquis Neal to discuss Las Vegas Summer League and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world. Well, well, well. Guess who's back? It's me, Jack. I'm back. And Miles is gone because we cannot be in the same room together. We are like cats and dogs. But we are here. I'm back and Miles is gone because we cannot be in the same room together we

are like cats and dogs but we are here I'm here with a super producer Jabari Davis and it is summer league baby full swing Team USA has a few more basketball showcases before heading to party at the end of the month. Teams are still making moves and free agency. We'll get into all of that and more with actor, comedian, one of the great podcasters, one of the great singers. He is Jaquis Neal

on today's episode. I'm Jack O'Brien. And I'm producer Jabari in for Miles. And this is Miles and Jack got mad. Yeah, I think we knew that. And Luca Dacic hits 10 K.

There you go. And be driving, spinning, fading. The Browns got it with five is going to try another three. Mr. LeBron James. The honest with the take. Oh, uh jakeith what up man how we doing how we living i'm doing i'm doing all right man i'm doing all right i was i was talking before you arrived on the call that I am unfortunately I have been pulled back in

as a 76ers fan you've been pulled back in I mean look you guys got PG we got PG you know gracefully go toward that that Eastern Conference Finals exit one of these days

that is the dream an Eastern Conference Finals exit. One of these days. That is the dream. An Eastern Conference Finals exit. That would be an improvement. That's what we've been working for. That's what we've been... When the 76ers get in the huddle before the game, if we just work together

as a team, you guys this year, we are going to be able to lose in five in the Eastern Conference Finals. Of course. Is PG one of those players? We just worked together as a team. You guys this year, we are going to be able to lose in five in the Eastern conference finals. Of course. Is PG one of those players? Is PG one of those players who we think won't ever win one? Won't ever win one? Because like,

so yeah, because when I was growing up. She just joined the best team in the NBA. I don't know if you heard the first part where I was talking about, uh, the, the finals, the championship fate. No,

go ahead. Okay. No, you're... No, go ahead. Okay. No, you're right. You're right. He's going to win next year with the 76ers. I mean, you know, listen. The 76ers every year

have the potential on paper. So, you know, if they can put it together, then, you know, who's the coach right now? Doc, right? No, Nick Nurse. Oh, Nick Nurse.

Where's Doc at? Oh, Milwaukee. All right. Milwaukee. You guys got a better chance now that Doc is right? No, Nick Nurse. Where's Doc at? Oh, Milwaukee. That's got a better chance now that Doc is not in Philly. Yeah. I think Nurse... I feel good. I feel like they have the proper

pieces to put it together barring injury, which makes me think this is the injury ravaged season. Probably. Hey man, you're in a much better place than I am. I am

so excited to root for my Chicago Bulls, who should barely get 16 wins this year, probably. As our entire team gets decimated, which let's blow it up and tank

that feels like where we're at it feels like they're like we're three steps ahead of you bud we are in it but I should mention in addition to being an actor, comedian podcast extraordinaire

host of Comedian Feud, host for Dropout TV and from Grand Crew, and also a Chicago Bulls fan. Which is the most important thing, because this tells you how sad I am. So I gotta ask, is this

SAG for Flag? Is Cooper Flag the desired target there? You mean for Bull bulls yeah i mean sure i guess though i mean at this point i don't really have faith in the bulls organization to do anything to develop any player or build around any player or anything like that and you know the last time we were competing was the d rose era and And like we had is it's funny, like the Bulls organization post Jordan has always been like, you'll have all the pieces and everybody will seem right. one or two people do wrong and we won't go away from it or deviate from it.

It was like Tibbs just running his players into the ground during D-Rose era. At this point, it would be dope, but my best hope is to see what happened to the Blackhawks all those years,

happen to the Bulls, and then maybe we'll actually progress and turn the corner and something good will happen to our organization. Because until then, I don't have faith in our organization anymore. Yeah. The best name I've heard for SAG for Flag was from a friend of the show, Carl Tart's podcast, The Flagrant Ones, where I forget who, it's

one of their friends came up with white flag for white flag. The white flag for white flag. It works. That's funny. Did you guys talk about his performance against Team USA? Yeah, Miles was going off about it, in particular because pretty well. That's funny. Did you guys talk about his performance against Team USA? Yeah.

Miles was going off about it, in particular because he dotted AD's eye in that one clip. He's like, we'll allow him on the Lakers. No. Wouldn't that be sad? I think we'd be okay with that. But honestly, much like Jaquese, I

don't have all the confidence in the world that we do that. Right. So, you know, yeah, we'll be real about it. So this is the best time of the year for everybody except Celtics fans, because it is the time of year where we can be unrealistic and hope springs

eternal. And we can just tune into the summer league to, uh, just have visions of sugar plums dancing in our head about our off-season acquisitions. The Summer League has some... I mean, it's not Wemby this year, but the winners and losers aren't important. It's just fun seeing these draftees in their first action. Zach Eadie is my first person

who I wanted to highlight. Two-time wooden award winner, but somehow kind of under the radar. I remember when I finally got to watch it, I don't really watch a lot of college hoops. Me either. When I finally watched him

play this year, I think it was in the NCAA tournament. So it was like in the NCAA tournament of his second year winning the wooden award. So like being the best college basketball player, I was like, well, so where,

where do they have him going in mock drafts? And it was like late second round. Like people were like, this guy's gonna, this guy's gonna stink. Yeah. I didn't quite understand that i still don't understand where that was coming from um i i guess people think he might be a little bit slow but i don't know he looks like he can play so he he had one summer league game and then he twisted his ankle but in that game he had 14 points 15 boards like

a couple really convincing and important blocks uh a game saving tip in like uh intentionally missed free throw down by two uh he tips it in um i don't know and, and he's, he's now the favorite to be rookie of the year. Um, because he's coming right in. I think, did he go eight or nine to Memphis? So, um,

yeah, he ended up like rocketing up the, but Memphis has a need at center. So he's going to get burn if he can stay healthy. If he can stay healthy. Yeah. I think he'll be a good player you know he's not gonna win rookie of the year that's going to brony james jr you know what i'm saying

but uh but i'm just saying but uh but uh but yeah no he i i did see i saw highlights of the game ed played and like he looks he looks like a center like he looks like a center. And I think with somebody like Ja who I think just started playing again or just resumed basketball activity or something I just saw or something like that. I'm not sure what I saw with Ja. But like

yeah, man. I think that can be a good team. Memphis can be a fun team. That's the thing. They didn't have a great season last year, but when they're all healthy and they're all there, that team plays very fun, and I think he'll fit in with that good style of basketball.

When Ja was healthy for a couple weeks there, they were right back at it. They looked like they were going to maybe sneak into the play-in game, and then he got hurt again. So it's... I think they're going to be in the mix.

I think they might be in the mix for a top six seed next year. And a 7'2 person who's just always in the right spots and can put the ball in the basket seems like

he's going to be useful there. Yeah. I'm not really sure why there was hesitation or why those mock drafts had him in the second round. It's not like he's a Taco Fall guy. No disrespect to Taco Fall. Shout out to him. He's playing overseas somewhere.

I don't know, man. It sounds like disrespect. Sometimes it's no disrespect. What I'm saying is just by comparison it's not like it was like that guy where he's just a huge guy that you know took up a lot of space but didn't really know what to do like or didn't seem you know to know what to do on the court he's a guy that you know to your point you know two-time wooden award winner and they you know like you can actually get it done so He's slow in plotting, but he's got game. I remember when Andrew Wiggins, when it was Riggin for Wiggins

and it was Wiggins was playing I think Jabari, what's his name? The number two pick. Jabari Parker in an early season game and it was an Jabari, what's his name? The number two pick, Jabari Parker, in like an early season game.

And it was an event. It was like a TV event. And I remember tuning into that and being like, who's the big guy on Wiggins' team? And people are like, oh no, he's that big goofy guy? He doesn't know how to play. He's only been playing basketball for like six weeks. I'm like, well,

he seems pretty good for only having been playing basketball for six weeks and that was Embiid. But everybody was tuning in to see Wiggins because that was the target and then, of course, Embiid just rapidly improved at an exponential rate.

So, I don't know. There's something we don't trust about extra big men sometimes. Yeah. So, you heard it here first. ED is going to be the next. He's going to be the next Joel Embiid. That's what I'm saying. Watch out for them knees, baby.

Uh-huh. No, I don't think he has that touch, and his game seems pretty settled at this point, but I just think he'll be a useful starting center. That used to be all you needed. You had a guard like Ja. Yeah. You had a guard, you had a forward,

and you got a center, and a center just needs to get rebounds, clog up the middle when they need to. I mean, well, now everything is stretched, and you got a center and the center just needs to get rebounds Clog up the middle when they need to I mean well now where everything is stretched and you know You got stretch fives and everything like that. It makes it a little bit harder But like I think we've been seeing over the past couple seasons I mean yoke is just a different case but like we've been seeing over the past couple seasons big men playing more big men roles Yeah and it actually working.

And you know, a center that can shoot a three is going to be great, but I think the big man is starting to re-evolve in the game in a way that can help a team actually compete. I agree. Anybody else? Jumping out

to you guys, have you been watching any summer league i i i've only been seeing clips i was gonna try to go to summer league this year then i asked somebody oh man we were talking about going to summer league like yeah you want to like plan that he was like yeah yeah let's look when it is oh yeah it's in two days i was like oh then i guess we're not going to summer league, it like snuck up on me like yeah, cuz I think everything is I think like I've still just been in Like the mindset of talking about the draft And like all the storylines that came around the draft and then like, you know

A couple of the big moves and then the USA team, whereas almost like the Summer League has been one of the least stories in basketball over the past couple weeks. Jabari, who's jumping out to you? I know you stay plugged in on this. The only other person I wanted to mention was Reed Shepard.

He looks a little in over his head on defense, but his shot making and his passing is pretty awesome. He had it going with Cam Whitmore, two man game against the wizards. It was pretty impressive. Yeah. I mean,

it's really there. Like, don't get me wrong. The rookies are fun. You know, it's their first action, but I don't have a great deal of, of expectation for them.

It's kind of just like, you know, let you see what they have. The second and third year guys are the ones that I'm usually looking forward to see if there's been any progress see you know see what they've developed you know like over the off season last year you know you know we were looking at jabari smith you know for houston uh this year you already mentioned him cam whitmore you know i liked him as a yeah i liked him as a rookie he looks he looks like and it's cliche now you know when you say too good for you know for summer league but He looks like, and it's cliche now when you say too good for Summer League,

but he looks like a guy that's like, okay, yeah, we saw what we needed to see, and we don't necessarily need to see a ton more from him. By the way, that is why our show is not at Summer League this year. Last year we did go to Summer League, saw Wemby, but the NBA decided this year that we are too good for Summer League, so that's why we're not there. Just wanted to clarify that. That's real.

And speaking of those Spurs, I saw him as a rookie, and he jumped out to me. But Siddy Sissoko, I pray that I said that the right way. Watch out for him. I think he's going to be – he played in a lot of G League action last year. I think he's going to be with the big team this year, and I think he's going to be you know like he played in a lot of g league action last year i think he's going to be with the big team this year and i think he's going to play a big role oh really i do i do um where's he out swiss army knife guy uh you know what you brian's gonna have to edit i have no idea where he's from but i'm gonna say france just because because it seems like every player player is coming from France now.

I'll look it up. What's his name again? Cidi Sissoko. Yeah, that's France. Yeah, that's French. Yeah, that's French. He actually was right. He's a French football player. There we go. Shout out to all the people with French

names. You know, Jacques. There you go. When I hear French, Iquees. You know, I hear French. When I hear French, I know it. I know it. You know, Ken Whitmore is out there just trying to hurt people's feelings. He had some

just amazing stuff. There was one oop from Reed Shepard to him where he caught it at his hip and just cocked it back one-handed and yoked it. It was awesome.

I do. You know what's funny for me when I watch Summer League and I think it's even more evident this season is the older I get, the more, the more watching summer league is just like watching college players play basketball. Yeah.

Like it's like watching college pickup, like to a degree. I know it's a little bit better than that, but you know, they are just kids, you know, like watching Bronnie. And, and a big reason for that is because of brawny because students and all these other kids who are sons of nba players who i was a teenager when they got drafted like not even like a kid i was a teenager when some of these kids fathers got drafted into the nba and so like the summer league is becoming more interesting to me because like I'm starting not to equate it as much and this is just me equated as much with uh with the

NBA like as I do which is kind of like college and G League almost and I know like you know that's not the case for a portion of those players but But but yeah, it's really is and it's fun It's fun It's it's still like players playing for the love of the game until they get to game one of the NBA season It's like we plan for love of the game, but also let's get these fits off. Let's get our money. Let's get You know, let's get on the road. We're NBA players now You know, they're in the show. They're in the show They're in the show now But Summer League is still just

We just play it because we just love Basketball And we're trying to make the team Do you Have you watched any of your Number 11 pick Matas Buzelis No, I'm pretty pissed

I'm pretty upset at the Bulls I'm not going to lie to you. I keep up with his stats and just what they say they're doing, but yeah, I just don't like what we're doing as a team right now. I gotta say, so he had one

dunk that somebody helpfully put to the beginning of They Not Like Us, and he just put somebody on their rear, and then dunk that somebody helpfully put to the beginning of They Not Like Us and he just put somebody on their rear and then landed on his butt and then just stared

at the person who he had just dunked on and that was in a game where he had 28 on four or five threes. So I'm kind of a fan. I'm going gonna be checking for booze ellis i also just like saying his name it's not so much i don't think he'll be a good player uh i think he he'll fit in i just think he's gonna have to come to this team and play a bigger role

than he should right for his talent level um like he's gonna the way it's looking he's gonna be like our second option like with you know yeah a lot can be developed over the course of a reset season you know yeah that's true

you don't want to develop bad habits but you know getting that type of run and you know being featured like that even in losses you, it's still silver lining. That's why we're looking forward to 2025-26, baby. How about Dalton Connect, aka Dalton Netched, is what it looks like it should be pronounced. That's your silver lining, Jabari, for this offseason. A.K.A. Dalton Netched is what it looks like it should be pronounced. But that's your silver lining, Jabari, for this offseason. Yeah. He's played

well. Yeah, number 17. He slipped to you. I think a lot of people thought he was going to go higher, and his game looks smooth. Because I'm on the same kind of vibe as Jack East, I'm like, same kind of vibe as Jack

East, I'm like, okay, so when's the other shoe going to drop? You know what I mean? I can't even allow myself to be as excited as I should be because they did. Look, whether it was their fortune or other teams' misfortune, he looks like a guy that can step on the court and contribute right now.

I mentioned it in the pre-show. There's going to be some questions on what he's going to do defensively, but that's really the case with any rookie guard or rookies in general. He's from the offensive side of things. He looks like he's a guy that can step on and actually be one

of their better players, which I don't know what that says about their chances this year, but at least they got one. You know what it says about their chances. We, but at least they got one. Yeah. You know what it says about their chances. We're just not going to admit that. Amazing. All right, let's take a quick break.

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a repeat offender but that's that's a big deal like that's you can't just be like i don't care i'll take the hit i just want to keep keep going and you know it's like no now you're actually getting punished in terms of what you're able to do and where you're able to draft what it feels like to me is that the the owners got their hard cap that they probably always know why am i saying why am i being nice that they want it all along yeah like technically they could still you know you know uh deal with these penalties but no one's going to so basically if you have a team right now that you know is paying a ton of players um and you know like on max money like like say for instance the boston celtics uh part of the reason why it wasn't a surprise that their owners uh decided to

go ahead and pull out and and and or at least exploring the idea of selling the team um yeah but if you have teams like that get you know don't get used to it because it's, it's just not going to be the norm. Like, you know, in the, in the pre-show, we were talking about the Denver nuggets all of a sudden next year,

they've got a decision to make with Jamal Murray. Obviously they're going to make the decision to keep him. But what that does is it puts them in a position to where they're going to have to make difficult, you know, they're going to have to have difficult conversations about guys like Aaron Gordon or even Michael Porter Jr.

I couldn't explain all of it to you, but what it feels like, like I said, is it's a true hard cap and it's allowing owners to say maybe parody isn't the worst of ideas. Yeah, which is great. I mean, listen,, listen the NBA is NBA is

in a more fun era Of its existence right now than it has been, you know in a long time and and for me, you know There's certain errors that are every era is fun. You know, the 90s were great. I Was barely alive in the 80s, but the 90s were great i was barely alive in the 80s but the 80s were great you know the the the the kings and the lakers were fun um you know those even the detroit you know or going to the 2010s you know lebron versus steph for 25 times like you know it, it was all fun errors, but like the one thing that the era before this, one of the black spots on the league, in my opinion, as a fan was that it was just so predictable. Yeah. You come into the season and you were like, oh, it's going to be calves versus golden state.

Yeah. And it was, it was every year. Yeah. And no matter, and no matter how it looked like it was going to shake out, it all settled to be exactly that at the end. Where it was just kind of, it was fun to watch, you know, like great basketball, but it was boring. As a fan, so just like, you know, get your hopes up and then like lose to the two teams that everybody knew was going to get there. lose to the two teams that everybody knew was going to get there. In the past

five seasons, especially the last four since the bubble, it's not been that. Why are you taking out the bubble? Why are you taking out the bubble? Since the bubble, you know what I'm saying? Since the Mickey Mouse championship.

But I'm saying the reason I'm saying, but the reason I'm taking it out of the bubble is because that season was just stopped midway through. And then it was a weird season as far as standings and playoffs and everything like that. And you've always said that you don't think it should have stopped.

You thought the plandemic was overrated. Yeah. When they sent Rudy Go you know as a plant to cough on all the mics you know yeah that was that was that was all part of the plan people don't know he did that at every nba arena he was yeah they flew around everywhere yeah they flew that that uh that mic cover around and just like squeezed it in every locker room rung the covet out of it just rung the covet out yeah so the only

argument i've heard against this is from uh a very famous boston sports fan who's like you're not going to be able to like keep keep the team together anymore it's not fair like this should be more like the nfl where like you know uh you can keep a core together and the problem with that is that the nfl has variants built into it because it's a winner take all one game playoff and championship so you have variants built in and you're not going to have the same team in the finals every single year with the same core. Whereas the NBA, as we saw, like you were talking about, if the NBA makes it so that these teams can keep the exact same core together for 10 years, it might be the same team in the finals for 10 years.

Because that's... Yeah. And it gets boring. It gets boring after a while. In a seven-game series, the best team is going to usually win. Look, man. Look. When the sixth player on the team is making

more money than Michael Jordan made in his last season as an NBA player, not keeping your core together is falling on deaf ears. Take less money. Then take less money. Like, y'all getting paid so... And I'm not saying don't get paid what you're worth,

but the real reason it's hard to keep a core together now is because players are getting paid $40-plus million a season to play basketball. And this is part of the deals. I know it's not just black and white. This money is coming from somewhere, and the players should get their share.

But that is going to be a downfall to it. When every player becomes a max player, then you're not going to be able to have a bunch of max players on your team anymore. That's just the way it is scotty barnes and uh what's his name from orlando both got maxed out right crazy franz wagner scotty barnes yeah like that really is a case you can't have it both ways if you want you know if you want parody in the nba you don't want you know like the dynasty teams then you're gonna have to open it up for this if you want guys to get paid

in you know the way that they should you know commiserate to their talent and what they're contributing to the product, then you're not going to be able to stack everybody on the same team. To me, the argument or the complaint there, it falls on deaf ears because it truly is a, you can't have it both ways. because it truly is a, you can't have it both ways. Yeah. The complaint is basically, I want the Boston Celtics to be able to keep the Boston Celtics together for the rest of my natural life. Yeah. I don't know how many people are in that same boat. And I'm, you know, look, man, I grew up, look again, I'm a Chicago guy.

I grew up in, I grew up in the nineties dynasty, man. So I'm used to seeing a team win over 50 percent of the championships in one decade and i know austin fans are used to that too i know warriors fans have that spurs fans have that there are teams that have it but like even as a bulls fan as much as i would love to see my team rattle off five championships like i think as a basketball fan i think it's better to see a team win one or two and then like you know move on we don't need to see a team win three four or five championships in a row anymore like it's not fun it's not good for basketball not in this era of basketball

fanship where our attention spans are so short and there's so many ways to watch and And enjoy the game and just know so much about the game and his players Um, it's not it's not it was a very top heavy league back then right? Jordan was so much better than the next best players and you know, uh magic and bird and you know in the 80s so it's so wild that the bulls are like you know just while we're on the subject of like caps and hard caps and it's just so wild that the and this is a point that i think i heard uh bill simmons making was that like chicago should be one of the best teams

in the league perennially. They're like the second or third biggest market. The third biggest market in the country. The Knicks get a lot of attention for having ownership that doesn't want to spend money and is bad and does...

But the Bulls' ownership is unbelievable. That was one of the things that The Last Dance, I think, reminded a lot of people of. Even as they're going into the sixth season of this amazing dynasty, they're like, we want to break it up.

We don't want to keep paying for these guys. We think they're overpaid. This guy Jordan's dime a dozen. We can do it again. We built Yeah, we can do it again. We build this. We can build it again. It's like, okay.

Sure. Eddie Curry. Yeah. And the thing about it, so Chicago is the third largest market in the NBA in most sports leagues generally. I don't know about hockey. And New York is over that. I think New York will probably be number one, to be honest, or two.

And L.A. is obviously rounds out the top three. But unlike New York, Chicago has more success than the Knicks have had their entire existence as a franchise. Like we have more championships. Granted, all in one decade, but we have more championships. You guys had one decade, but we had a good run We had a great run, but we have that after that success We we've made like more playoff runs than the Knicks have in the past 20 years you know not right now, but like for the most part we have and You know like we have more famous

players the knicks are dope they got good players mellow grateful you know like d rose was dope uh mike was great scotty was great like field like this and so it's just it baffles me and i'm saying all that which sounds positive but i'm about to take a poopoo on the bulls it baffles me. And I'm saying all that, which sounds positive, but I'm about to take a poo-poo on the Bulls. It baffles me how we fumble so many free agents when it comes to coming to the Chicago Bulls. It baffles me. It's like they're not even in the conversation. The conversation happens around the Knicks

where people are like, well, you know, and somebody's going to get extremely famous by bringing the Knicks back to glory. It's been way too long. But the Bulls, I guess maybe it's because Jordan's imprint was so massive that people are just like, well, you're just in his shadow forever. It's not crazy to bring the Bulls back. When D. Rose was playing, it was looking like we might go to the promised land with D. Rose.

I'm telling you. I was in Chicago. I'm telling you we was ready like we would we would have crowned d rose yeah like i guess i'm talking about how the national media covers it it doesn't really make sense yeah we were ready we were ready to crown him and like i'll see often like and i'll see this question often you know like the would you rather and I'll see this question often, the would you rathers. And I answered this honestly. Would you rather take one or two championships away from Jordan just to give one to D. Rose? And I routinely say yes. Wow.

I would. I would. To give one to that team when Rose was that MVP level, oh my gosh. Yeah. Dude. that team when Rose was that MVP level. Oh my gosh. Dude. And from Chicago, the kid from Chicago who says, why can't I be the MVP? And then he becomes it and leads the team to the championship. Bro. It would have

been beautiful. So we're ready. We're ready. As much as we love Mike, we are ready to crown somebody else like we want to want to so bad. Yeah. I do think the Knicks are, I don't know. So they, Brunson has reportedly left about $30 million on the table in order to make things easier for the Knicks with the salary cap. I heard it was like $113.

It's because, like, he signed it a year earlier. So, like, basically, he'll eventually get that money. It's just that he signed it a year earlier. So basically, he'll eventually get that money. It's just that he signed it early. So I think it was somewhere between $30 and $35 million is what he's actually losing. Which is $35 million. And then Mikael Bridges is expected to also take a salary cut so that they can all play together. So now people are like the Knicks. Are the Knicks the second best team in the Eastern Conference?

Do you guys think? I think if they can put it together. I mean, the additions they made this offseason were dope. And I think if they can put it together, I don't trust Milwaukee anymore. Yeah. Who else? Besides, I mean, I guess Philly, and and yeah philly new york and boston

but i think that's your top three like just on paper right now that's your top three and i can't i'm not i'm not knocking it i can't knock nicks because i literally just said this five minutes ago like if you want to put a team together that can win and a core that you can keep together like players Are gonna probably have to take less money or less or different type of deals to do it and the Knicks are like we want We want to win. So let's go. Let's do it. I respect that. I respect what they're doing now From a broke man's perspective. What you doing, bro? From a broke man's perspective, what you doing, bruh? Hey.

Doing, bruh. The anonymous nobody on Twitter tweeted, they don't teach economics at Villanova? I'm sorry. Oh, man. I think it's going to be an interesting year in the Eastern Conference next year. I guess Indiana is still there. Indiana is still there. I don't trust. I'm not that high on them, to be honest.

I don't know. I'll tell you the person that just having lived through the series where we got beat by the Knicks, Hartenstein was the person who really I have bad dreams about still. I think that's partially

because Embiid was hurt and slow to the rebound and Hartenstein just got every rebound. So the fact that he's gone makes me feel a little bit better about how Philly stacks up against them. But not, I don't know, they're going to have some shooting now that's going to be pretty tough to contend with. And Brunson's so good. Yeah. And, you know,

Brunson and Halliburton may have a WWE match one day. You know what I'm saying? They were just on Monday Night Raw or a pay-per-view. I can't remember which one. Maybe it was a pay-per-view. Yeah, boy, they got to race. You're a fan of wrestling in addition

to the NBA. I have to say that this immediately gave me less respect for the acting of wrestlers because they were immediately just as good as wrestlers in terms of acting. They sold it, man. I was like, oh my God, are they going to fight each other? They were good, though. They sold it. Listen, that's cool and all, but it was also who they were who they were in the ring with you know what i'm saying yeah for sure let let uh let brock lesnar's big butt get in that ring with him they gonna be like oh

yeah dude but that was fun really quickly on the knicks. It feels like they're set up to honestly defend everybody except for Philly, which, you know, whether they're going to address that or not, or they don't necessarily think that they're going to face them like in a, in a post, in a postseason situation. I love what the Knicks have done.

I do think that I do think they're the clearly the second best regular season team. Clearly. Oh, when it comes, but when it comes, yeah, I'll go out on that limb. this is after trying that you're trying to get you to stay stick with the sixers every year yeah well now that i've said i'm sticking with them you're like okay i can

be honest now this is the one year where i'll say i think the sixers match up really well with a lot of the teams in the east so this is the first year in a long time where I'll say the Sixers look like a 16 game team, as opposed to just primarily being the 82 game team where the, where the Knicks, they're going to cause a lot of trouble for a lot of people throughout that regular season. Now.

Yeah. I, especially because the Sixers, I think our best strategy is not to play Joel Embiid in the regular season. Yeah. You know what I do? You know, like every, to play Joel Embiid in the regular season. That would be my nice table. You know what I do? Every major sport has a really dope thing about their season

that's fun. I think MLB does this the best out of the top four. The trade deadline is so fun in Major League Baseball because it is truly just like all right all the teams that suck are dumping off players and all the contending teams just go get that one last piece they need to like take them over the hump for the second half of the season

it's like such a fun like in 2016 the cubs did that we get in a role to Chapman and like that took us over the hump When that World Series, right? I wish that I wish the NBA had more of just Like I can see the Knicks I can see that like the Knicks playing well and then like taking those first 40 games to see like Okay, what do what what do we need to like get us over the hump? Now that we've seen ourselves play or we've seen how this team operates and then make one move and then it's off to the races in the second half of the season, I think that would be so

fun in basketball if that happened more. There's just a whammy day where all of a sudden one player just got shaken loose from their team and everybody had to like go around. Yeah. Like compete together.

Um, yeah, that would be fun. Uh, all right. Should we take a quick break and then we'll come back and we'll do the rapid fire round of questioning. Oh, that sound good.

Oh yeah. Oh, you forgot. Yeah. We should mention to Keith that you haven't been on in 121 episodes. This is our 122nd episode. You were on our first episode. Oh my gosh.

OG is back, baby. A couple things have changed around here. Not really that much. You mean if I went in, and I'm looking at my list right here, and it says, if I answer the most questions, I get season tickets. That's right. The NBAba season tickets to recordings of miles and jack where you can just sit in permanently invited i got you okay okay yeah let's do it uh all right

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Okay. We got two teams. You got Team USA 2024 or the Redeem team 2008. 2008. Oh, sorry. The answer is correct. Team USA 2024 or the Redeem Team 2008? 2008. Oh, sorry.

Go ahead. The answer is correct. Okay. So I just want to name some of the players who are on 2008. We've got Carlos Boozer. Deron Williams. Yeah. Are you starting with him?

Michael Redd Chris Bosch Dwight Howard okay Tayshaun Prince oh yeah defense baby all right you also got Carmelo you got Prime

LeBron you got Jason Kidd or Aisyn Kidd i think this was the period where he still didn't have a j uh somebody named cobe bryant or something um coba coba b bryant that's right uh dwayne wade and chris paul so that's team 2008 um you think they're beating this team? Actually, now that I'm thinking about this. And now that I said all those names. Now that you got me thinking about this.

Now that you got me thinking about this. That team, that's a tough team to try to beat. A team with Steph Curry on it. I'm going 2024. I think that's right. I kind of agree, but Jabari is hard 2008.

Now, this might be because he's a big Kobe fan. You got Kobe, and that's what I was going for 2008, but you still got LeBron, who obviously isn't as good as he was in 08, but still top five player in the world right now. He's just different. I mean, he's definitely

not as good as he was in 2008 but like he's also so smart i feel like in 08 the in 08 basketball was still slightly uh slower pace wasn't the three-pointer hadn't become king yet and you put that team against this steph curry team man nah i i think i gotta go 2024 give me 088 LeBron locking Steph's little butt up, man. I'm sorry, man. 08 is smashing this team. Man, smashing. LeBron can lock up Jason Terry.

He ain't locking up Steph Curry in 2008. Not in 2008, bro. Maybe 2014, 2015, but not in 08. Previous season had LeBron in. No, no. 08 was pre-Heatles, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Not 08. 08, Boston won. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. LeBron ain't locking up Steph. That LeBron, offensively great, he ain't locking up prime Steph Curry. A combination of LeBron and Bean

and D-Wade. I'll take it. This LeBron, LeBron is not as good. He really needed that loss to Dallas to become the full player.

That's prime LeBron right there. It's 2011 through 15-16. It's prime LeBron. That prime LeBron right there. It's 2011 through 15-16. It's prime LeBron. That's LeBron at his peak offensively and defensively. I need y'all to go back and watch some 08 LeBron highlights, man. I'm sorry. Trust me.

You're 100% right in terms of 2012-2013. It was ridiculous. But 08 LeBron was still so nasty. Still pretty nice. Offensively, he was great. He was disgusting. He was yelping on people. Yeah. I still gotta go 2024.

Let me ask this as a follow-up. By the way, this is a rapid fire, so this was supposed to be just quick. Now we're discussing this stuff. I'll get it off of that, but stick with Team USA. What is the one moment or game from Team USA history that you wish Twitter had been around for? Oh, I wish it would have been around for that game

where Charles Barkley was like, I forgot what the name is now, but I don't know them. We're going to beat them. I like when he said that quote, and then to see it happen would have been amazing. It would have been so funny uh and then also and then also the second second response is uh and i just saw this on twitter um but i wasn't big on twitter when this happened was like the new zealand team did like the little

tribal dance before like before the game and the nba players were just watching like what the heck is this and this dream team it was i think it was the dream team yeah and or the or like the usa team and then uh and then they beat them by like 30 points 2012 or 2016 but i think it was like 2012 yeah i think it was 2012 it was so funny they had the haka they were doing the haka dance which was dope but it's also meant to intimidate and be intimidating and imposing

I know what you're talking about that's the team you were saying they were just looking like oh cool and then whoop that would have been great it's what we do best as a country is basketball and then whoop them. Yeah. That would have been great. It's what we do best as a country is basketball.

It's the one thing we have left. It is the beautiful game with all apologies to I'm not even apologizing to soccer anymore man. I just watched the Copa Americas or whatever man. It's not a beautiful game. We got the beautiful game.

I need more scoring, bro. As much as y'all running up and down these fields, man, I need to see more scoring. Jaquese Neal, what a pleasure having you back on Miles and Jack on Matt Boosties. Listen, it's been a beautiful time. It's been a beautiful game.

It's been a beautiful time. One of the most beautiful guests on any podcast. Jaquese, where can people find you, follow you? You can find me at Jackie's Kneel on everything. You can also find me in these streets. Wherever you're looking, I'm probably

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